| 00:00.02 | arete | hrm |
| 00:00.10 | arete | uname says armv5 |
| 00:00.13 | arete | wonder if the old one said 4 |
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| 00:38.18 | Leimy | anyone here know a good checkbook application for the Zaurus? |
| 00:38.46 | Leimy | Something like tender for the Palm Pilot |
| 00:40.24 | treke|home | opie-checkbook, tkckapital |
| 00:40.35 | Leimy | tkckapital I have... I don't like it |
| 00:41.20 | Leimy | doesn't opie require I install some other desktop stuff? |
| 00:41.26 | treke|home | no |
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| 01:03.25 | Leimy | Don't know |
| 01:04.40 | hobbs | hey Deathwind |
| 01:05.02 | Leimy | anyone use opie-checkbook? |
| 01:05.19 | Leimy | I want to know if it has the ability to clear transactions without completely deleting them |
| 01:05.35 | Leimy | If you can do that tkckapital I haven't figured it out yet |
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| 01:12.44 | Hellaenergy | Yo Zaries |
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| 01:15.34 | chouimat|bored | ulyx weather CYQB |
| 01:15.35 | ulyx | 1 hours, 25 minutes ago, on Sun Feb 09 00:00:00 UTC 2003, the wind was blowing at a speed of 3.60 meters per second (8.06 miles per hour) from the West at CYQB. The temperature was -7 degrees Celsius (19 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1007 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 92.5%. There were overcast clouds at a height of 701 meters (2300 feet). The visibility was 3.2 kilometers (2.0 miles). Current |
| 01:15.35 | ulyx | weather is Light Snow . |
| 01:16.40 | neotron_ | 92.5% humidity at -7 celsius and with snow? sounds highyl unlikely |
| 01:17.23 | chouimat|bored | neotron_: no it's correct |
| 01:25.52 | chouimat|bored | ibot seen kergoth |
| 01:25.52 | | kergoth <~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 18h 29m 39s ago, saying: 'search the hostap mailing list archives, perhaps its mentioned'. |
| 01:29.11 | kergoth | yo |
| 01:29.17 | Hellaenergy | hi kergoth |
| 01:29.18 | chouimat|bored | hi kergoth |
| 01:30.25 | |ryan| | ibot lart me |
| 01:30.33 | |ryan| | NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:30.44 | oGMo | hehe |
| 01:31.00 | kergoth | my best friend just up and bought a BMW X5 today |
| 01:31.03 | kergoth | fully loaded |
| 01:31.10 | kergoth | straight up, wrote out a check. no financing. |
| 01:31.11 | kergoth | fucker. |
| 01:31.13 | |ryan| | sweet |
| 01:31.17 | kergoth | heheh |
| 01:31.23 | |ryan| | tell him to buy me one |
| 01:31.24 | treke|home | fucker |
| 01:31.28 | kergoth | yeah, its one hell of a vehicle |
| 01:31.30 | oGMo | kergoth: *sob* |
| 01:31.31 | kergoth | i'm just jealous |
| 01:31.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:31.33 | chouimat|bored | kergoth: an payment for the next 25 years |
| 01:31.48 | |ryan| | kergoth: where the fuck did he get that much money? |
| 01:31.58 | kergoth | chouimat|bored: no, he didnt finance it. he wrote a check for the full amount. |
| 01:32.12 | chouimat|bored | |ryan|: fuck is the keyword |
| 01:32.12 | ulyx | fine |
| 01:32.27 | chouimat|bored | hmmm must fix the bug |
| 01:32.33 | |ryan| | kergoth: did he rob a bank? |
| 01:32.57 | kergoth | |ryan|: nope, just runs a successful business |
| 01:32.57 | kergoth | quite legal |
| 01:33.04 | |ryan| | heh |
| 01:33.23 | |ryan| | what sort of business? |
| 01:33.29 | kergoth | circuit board design |
| 01:33.41 | |ryan| | O_o |
| 01:33.55 | chouimat|bored | ulyx fuck? |
| 01:33.55 | ulyx | dunno |
| 01:34.12 | chouimat|bored | hmmm very weird bug |
| 01:34.43 | |ryan| | does he know anything about circuit board design, or does he just know how to run the company well? |
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| 01:39.37 | |ryan| | ibot, lart yourself. |
| 01:40.01 | |ryan| | hmm.... |
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| 02:19.08 | chouimat|bored | ulyx: fortune bofh-excuses |
| 02:19.08 | ulyx | BOFH Excuse #404: Sysadmin accidentally destroyed pager with a large hammer. |
| 02:19.34 | chouimat|bored | my dream........................ |
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| 02:41.21 | Pendalar | ulyx: fortune adult |
| 02:41.22 | ulyx | /usr/share/games/fortune/adult: No such file or directory |
| 02:41.28 | Pendalar | hrm ? |
| 02:41.39 | Pendalar | hrm could have sworn that was a choice |
| 02:41.41 | hobbs | ulyx: fortune I LOVE HOBBS |
| 02:41.41 | ulyx | incorrect usage: fortune [<module>] => get a (short) fortune, optionally specifying fortune db, fortune list => list available fortune dbs |
| 02:41.53 | hobbs | ulyx fortune list |
| 02:41.53 | ulyx | ___% /usr/share/games/fortune, ___% fortunes, ___% fortunes2 |
| 02:41.57 | Pendalar | heh |
| 02:41.59 | hobbs | haha. still broke. :) |
| 02:42.00 | Pendalar | that's helpful |
| 02:42.02 | hobbs | ulyx fortune goedel |
| 02:42.02 | ulyx | Generic Fortune. |
| 02:42.17 | chouimat|Zzzz | hobbs: that a bsd bugs :( |
| 02:42.39 | sjborch | hello, chouimat|Zzzz |
| 02:42.40 | hobbs | btw, you want me to send you the knghtbrd fortune files? :) |
| 02:43.01 | chouimat|Zzzz | knghtbrd??? any monty python fortune??? |
| 02:43.02 | Pendalar | seti servers are down.. this is a odd night |
| 02:43.02 | sjborch | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 02:43.04 | ulyx | Wait a minute, Marge. I saw "Mrs. Doubtfire." This is a man in drag! -- Homer Simpson Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(annoyed grunt)ocious |
| 02:43.35 | hobbs | chouimat|Zzzz: te only reference to "Python" in fortune knghtrd is: |
| 02:43.35 | sjborch | Pendalar: I thought it was me, but Seti does that once in a while. Maybe it's because the alien greens and greys are fighting? |
| 02:43.42 | hobbs | StevenK> You're rewriting parts of Quake in *Python*? |
| 02:43.42 | hobbs | <knghtbrd> MUAHAHAHA |
| 02:44.19 | sjborch | How about a nethackesque version of quake, sort of like version 0.0.1? |
| 02:44.25 | Pendalar | I've seen quake in text, python is not a big stretch |
| 02:44.32 | sjborch | :) |
| 02:44.47 | Pendalar | seti's website is down... the seti@home data server sure goes down, but not the website |
| 02:51.53 | hobbs | ulyx: fortune chalkboard |
| 02:51.54 | ulyx | I WILL NOT SHOW OFF I WILL NOT SHOW OFF I WILL NOT SHOW OFF I WILL NOT SHOW OFF Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 7F21 |
| 02:51.58 | hobbs | lame. |
| 02:52.00 | hobbs | ulyx: fortune chalkboard |
| 02:52.01 | ulyx | I AM NOT HERE ON A FARTBALL SCHOLARSHIP I AM NOT HERE ON A FARTBALL SCHOLARSHIP I AM NOT HERE ON A FARTBALL SCHOLARSHIP I AM NOT HERE ON A FARTBALL SCHOLARSHIP Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode BABF16 |
| 02:52.11 | hobbs | somewhat better. :) |
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| 04:38.59 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 05:31.35 | LordDavon|C700 | Hello everyone. |
| 05:38.12 | Pendalar | doh |
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| 08:01.48 | frankps | hi all |
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| 08:18.28 | Vhalros | Hey, do you guys know if any of the CF Wireless cards support the changing of the MAC address? |
| 08:20.27 | nayr | techinally it dosent matter |
| 08:21.00 | Vhalros | It doesn't? Why? |
| 08:21.29 | nayr | correct me if im wrong |
| 08:22.06 | nayr | but there is some software involved on client side for getting the mac address |
| 08:22.24 | nayr | and that can be spoofed |
| 08:22.39 | nayr | ive seen quite a few software mac spoofing techniques |
| 08:23.08 | Vhalros | For getting a MAC address? Maybe in wireless, I'm not that familiar with it... it would seem odd .. certianly not for normal ethernet. |
| 08:23.28 | nayr | well |
| 08:23.37 | nayr | im pretty sure you can spoof ur mac addy |
| 08:23.40 | Vhalros | You can do ARP spoofing to fool a router into thinking you have a particular MAC address (sorta). |
| 08:23.41 | nayr | regardless of ur hardware |
| 08:23.51 | nayr | ya |
| 08:23.55 | nayr | you can poision its arp tables |
| 08:24.10 | nayr | but theres ways arround that, with redundant arp tables |
| 08:24.13 | nayr | however |
| 08:24.18 | nayr | no one employs that |
| 08:24.54 | nayr | not on purpose |
| 08:24.57 | nayr | anywase |
| 08:25.11 | nayr | if it went something like |
| 08:25.25 | nayr | AP -> SWITCH -> ARP FILTERING ROUTER |
| 08:25.37 | nayr | you could poision the AP's arp table |
| 08:25.46 | nayr | but the switch would realize it |
| 08:26.23 | nayr | but if the AP did the mac filtering |
| 08:26.32 | nayr | ud get right past it |
| 08:27.11 | Vhalros | Hmm... |
| 08:28.06 | Vhalros | I see. That may work. It would be easier to just change the MAC if that's possible though. |
| 08:30.32 | nayr | for a specific answer |
| 08:30.35 | nayr | im not sure |
| 08:30.39 | nayr | groups.google.com |
| 08:30.40 | nayr | try that |
| 08:37.58 | Vhalros | Okay, thanks. |
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| 12:34.27 | bralt | hello? |
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| 12:48.48 | _MAX_ | hi all |
| 12:49.27 | _MAX_ | what pim tools you all use with your zaurus? i hate the qtdesktop because there is no import and export. |
| 12:59.46 | bralt | anybody around? |
| 13:06.14 | _MAX_ | yep |
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| 13:11.27 | George- | 'allo |
| 13:21.11 | bralt | anybody tried buildroot? |
| 13:24.46 | George- | nope |
| 13:34.25 | bralt | :( |
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| 14:09.11 | George- | kergoth: asshole! :) |
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| 15:14.53 | SuKoShi | hi |
| 15:17.43 | George- | which would you classify as better? the 5600 or the 5500? |
| 15:18.05 | SuKoShi | as far as i know 5600 |
| 15:18.13 | SuKoShi | IF |
| 15:18.15 | George- | The 5500 (as I understand) has twice as much RAM as the 5600, but the 5600 has 96MB of flash + 32MB ram? |
| 15:18.31 | SuKoShi | sharp had made an optimisation on it |
| 15:18.47 | SuKoShi | with 5500 if you crash |
| 15:18.54 | SuKoShi | you lose your data |
| 15:19.04 | effy | what is that site for Zaurus software? killfillez.de? |
| 15:19.05 | George- | I keep all my data on CF |
| 15:19.08 | George- | like all sane people :) |
| 15:19.18 | George- | effy: www.killefiz.de/zaurus |
| 15:19.26 | effy | thanks ;) |
| 15:19.28 | SuKoShi | i don't as i have a 5600 already |
| 15:19.44 | George- | I suppose it's debatable |
| 15:19.55 | George- | the 5600 has a maximum of 32MB RAM, and no ramdisk |
| 15:20.22 | George- | but the 5500 can have 64MB ram with no ramdisk, and you can use cf/sd instead of built in flash |
| 15:20.34 | SuKoShi | i use my cheap CF as a swapdisk, even if it should burn it |
| 15:21.00 | George- | cf isn't very fast.. |
| 15:21.29 | SuKoShi | yes, but SD is too expensive, so i prefer burning a cf ;) |
| 15:21.58 | George- | Sd is even slower than CF.. ;) |
| 15:23.13 | SuKoShi | i don't know if sdram exists in CF formfactor |
| 15:23.21 | SuKoShi | that should be interesting |
| 15:23.22 | George- | I doubt it |
| 15:23.25 | George- | not really |
| 15:23.33 | George- | the bottleneck is in the CF interfact |
| 15:23.35 | George- | er.. |
| 15:23.36 | George- | interface |
| 15:23.41 | SuKoShi | but maybe is the CF specification that is slow |
| 15:23.49 | chouimat|Zzzzz | hi George- |
| 15:23.50 | SuKoShi | that's what i guessed |
| 15:23.50 | George- | it'll only go at about 800-900KB/s afaict |
| 15:24.00 | George- | hey chouimat|Zzzzz |
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| 15:24.10 | chouimat|Zzzzz | ~lart George- |
| 15:24.17 | George- | chouimat|Zzzzz: oh shut up |
| 15:24.27 | Piete | hehe |
| 15:24.31 | chouimat|Zzzzz | George-: it's a 2 for 1 :) |
| 15:24.41 | George- | lol |
| 15:25.16 | George- | hrmm |
| 15:25.27 | George- | i wonder if my radeon m6 ly woudl have enough juice for flightgear |
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| 15:29.00 | chouimat | ~lart George- for fun |
| 15:30.45 | harryF | does anyone know whether there is an open-source software for the Z or for Linux in general that supports SiRF GPS output? |
| 15:31.12 | George- | zgps? |
| 15:31.12 | George- | no idea ;) |
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| 15:32.00 | George- | hey smbj |
| 15:32.03 | chouimat | harryF: don't know |
| 15:32.11 | smbj | hey george |
| 15:32.16 | smbj | fscking cable company |
| 15:32.20 | smbj | was dead all morning |
| 15:32.25 | George- | NUHDUHV! =P |
| 15:32.30 | nadav | heh |
| 15:32.40 | nadav | you had to wait for the nick change? :P |
| 15:32.42 | chouimat | ~lart George- |
| 15:32.58 | harryF | George: zgps can do it, but it is not open source :) (the problem is that zgps is not working so I wanted to write my own debugging tool) |
| 15:33.17 | George- | <George-> NUHDUHV! =P |
| 15:33.17 | George- | --- smbj is now known as nadav |
| 15:33.25 | George- | I'm lagged |
| 15:33.49 | nadav | oh |
| 15:33.54 | nadav | heh |
| 15:34.34 | harryF | anyone here who ever got the Fortuna Pocket Track to work on the Z? |
| 15:34.49 | nadav | i should probably flash my Z again |
| 15:34.55 | nadav | nah |
| 15:35.01 | harryF | ...or who knows how to tell that device to use NMEA instead of SiFR? |
| 15:35.10 | nadav | that would involve closing ac2 for a few minutes |
| 15:35.40 | SuKoShi | harryF: what is your GPS ? |
| 15:35.49 | harryF | SuKoShi: Fortuna Pocket Track |
| 15:36.02 | SuKoShi | any url? |
| 15:36.03 | ljp | Fortuna Pocket Track < whats that? |
| 15:36.28 | George- | ljp: It's a portable race course |
| 15:36.36 | harryF | SuKoShi: http://www.fortuna.com.tw/GPS-CF.htm |
| 15:36.44 | George- | ljp: like silverstone etc :0 |
| 15:37.15 | harryF | SuKoShi: the problem is that it outputs data on /dev/ttyS3 but it all seems binary, so I think it is outputting SiRF data. I want to tell it to output ASCII NMEA stuff. |
| 15:38.12 | SuKoShi | harryF: maybe you have to tell the hardware to send NMEA |
| 15:38.17 | SuKoShi | Ask the support first |
| 15:39.16 | harryF | SuKoShi: okay. If that doesn't help, I'll install vmware and put a sniffer between and take a look what the windows software is sending to the thing :) |
| 15:39.40 | SuKoShi | you should try on a laptop |
| 15:40.21 | SuKoShi | as far as i know |
| 15:40.22 | harryF | SuKoShi: yeah, I have it on my laptop but it only dumps binary stuff. I need an app that switches it to NMEA so I can re-engineer the command. |
| 15:40.44 | SuKoShi | i heard that GPS cards like this accepts commands |
| 15:41.05 | SuKoShi | just like a modem with AT stuff |
| 15:41.18 | George- | btw - have you lot seen the OS X sync stuff? |
| 15:41.25 | harryF | hm, now I only need the AT-SwitchToNMEA command string :) |
| 15:41.33 | SuKoShi | i know |
| 15:41.39 | SuKoShi | http://www.fortuna.com.tw/download/PocketTrackXp.inf |
| 15:41.52 | SuKoShi | contains nothing interesting. |
| 15:42.08 | SuKoShi | the ms driver is nothing else than a serial driver |
| 15:42.49 | harryF | SuKoShi: yeah, even the original MS-Comments are still there :) |
| 15:43.10 | SuKoShi | lol |
| 15:44.21 | SuKoShi | did you read this : |
| 15:44.22 | SuKoShi | http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/pocketTrack.htm |
| 15:45.21 | chouimat | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030209&mode=classic |
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| 15:51.06 | ShiShi | hello |
| 15:51.36 | ShiShi | someone can tell me what ipk should i use for xmms on openzaurus rc2 |
| 15:51.37 | ShiShi | ? |
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| 16:19.59 | harryF | if I insert a wireless lan card, which device does it get? /dev/wlan0? /dev/wifi ? |
| 16:20.51 | SuKoShi | eth1 i think |
| 16:21.56 | harryF | SuKoShi: ah, eth0 actually if you haven't configure the usb stuff :) |
| 16:22.06 | ShiShi | someone can tell me what ipk should i use for xmms on openzaurus rc2 |
| 16:22.37 | ShiShi | i install xmms-embedded-qtopia_0.00003_arm.ipk and xmms-e_0.00005-2_arm.ipk |
| 16:22.51 | ShiShi | but when i clik on it , xmms don't start |
| 16:22.58 | ShiShi | someone have an idea? |
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| 16:25.50 | EXTERNe | hi -are there other c700 users online? |
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| 16:29.30 | ShiShi | someone can tell me what ipk should i use for xmms on openzaurus rc2 |
| 16:29.55 | ShiShi | cause i install but xmms doesn't start |
| 16:30.31 | lsmith | you also need to install a skin |
| 16:30.41 | ShiShi | what skin ? |
| 16:30.43 | SuKoShi | it works if you launch from command line |
| 16:30.50 | SuKoShi | as root |
| 16:31.06 | ShiShi | no he doesn t works |
| 16:31.30 | ShiShi | i have icon of xmms , but he doesn t start |
| 16:32.11 | SuKoShi | command line i told. |
| 16:32.51 | SuKoShi | i've got the same problem on my B500 with the original rom |
| 16:34.54 | ShiShi | in line command he doesn t start too |
| 16:34.57 | ShiShi | as root too |
| 16:35.17 | SuKoShi | i used to add path |
| 16:35.25 | SuKoShi | to the file that xmms requests |
| 16:35.32 | SuKoShi | in order to have it launch |
| 16:35.47 | SuKoShi | but i never add clues how to launch it from the GUI |
| 16:36.57 | ShiShi | you use xmms from line command ? |
| 16:52.53 | SuKoShi | i tried from the CLI in order to have it been launched |
| 16:53.33 | ShiShi | but what can i do for launch it ? |
| 16:54.03 | ShiShi | cause i want to listen some mp3 and ogg files |
| 16:55.33 | EXTERNe | c700 users? |
| 16:55.48 | arete | yes? |
| 16:58.58 | EXTERNe | do you have dynamism rom? |
| 16:59.07 | EXTERNe | I'm looking for a way to make the default font bigger |
| 16:59.18 | arete | ahh, no idea |
| 17:00.54 | EXTERNe | which software are you using besides default apps? |
| 17:01.06 | arete | tried tkctodo but its too slow to use |
| 17:01.11 | arete | have kismet too |
| 17:01.27 | SuKoShi | EXTERNe: i've read your post on ZOK ;) |
| 17:01.46 | chouimat | zok????? |
| 17:02.20 | SuKoShi | zaurus otaku kurabu |
| 17:03.01 | EXTERNe | ;-) |
| 17:03.16 | EXTERNe | I'm new to the c700 but I looooove it |
| 17:03.33 | EXTERNe | SuKoShi do you also have a c700 ? |
| 17:03.48 | SuKoShi | i have my B500 since december 20th from Japan |
| 17:04.00 | SuKoShi | i prefer B500 form factor |
| 17:04.08 | SuKoShi | but it is the same OS inside |
| 17:04.17 | SuKoShi | and same hardware (screen excepted) |
| 17:04.42 | arete | hey sukoshi |
| 17:05.16 | EXTERNe | do you have japaneese rom? |
| 17:05.31 | SuKoShi | yes |
| 17:05.43 | SuKoShi | EXTERNe : HEY !! by the way !! |
| 17:06.00 | SuKoShi | yesterday night i flashed my B500 to 1.20JP romset |
| 17:06.19 | arete | that reminds me |
| 17:06.24 | arete | what are the other options on the rom flash menu? |
| 17:06.59 | SuKoShi | and i helped arete to flash its C700 (from dynamism) and he said even after flash, it keeps dynamism translation |
| 17:07.17 | SuKoShi | arete : let me remember |
| 17:07.22 | SuKoShi | 4th is update |
| 17:07.32 | SuKoShi | 3rd is factory default reset |
| 17:07.53 | arete | that one restores the rom? |
| 17:07.57 | EXTERNe | cool I wonder where is the translation stored |
| 17:08.02 | arete | thats what I'm curious about with these flash devices |
| 17:08.10 | arete | seems that if you f-up the rom you are hosed |
| 17:08.16 | SuKoShi | 1/2 : i don't remember well but one of it permits to check database of calendar etc |
| 17:08.31 | SuKoShi | arete: that is the 3rd yes |
| 17:08.40 | arete | wonder how it accomlishes that |
| 17:08.48 | SuKoShi | it will bring the state back to the point when you opened the box ;) |
| 17:09.07 | SuKoShi | silly, easy. |
| 17:09.19 | SuKoShi | it erases the symlinks |
| 17:09.29 | SuKoShi | where you should have put on it |
| 17:09.43 | SuKoShi | (in fact it erases anything that is not RO) |
| 17:10.08 | SuKoShi | so the romsets isn't erased, but the rest is suppressed |
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| 17:10.40 | arete | hmm but the symlinks are just into flash rom aren't they |
| 17:10.50 | chouimat | hey George- |
| 17:10.57 | SuKoShi | yes but in the unprotected part |
| 17:11.01 | EXTERNe | I would like to bacl up some c700 apps (hancom and netfront) + their english translation to user them later on when I flash to opie |
| 17:11.12 | George- | hey |
| 17:11.15 | arete | ahh hmmm |
| 17:11.21 | EXTERNe | hey George |
| 17:11.29 | George- | hi |
| 17:11.29 | SuKoShi | EXTERNe: do ask arete about the upgrade |
| 17:11.36 | chouimat | ~lart George- |
| 17:11.39 | chouimat | :) |
| 17:11.43 | arete | I have a few complaints about the 1.20JP rom |
| 17:11.45 | George- | yawn, cvs up'ing the whole of my cvs sources |
| 17:11.47 | George- | of KDE HEAD |
| 17:11.55 | arete | switching resolutions now gives a corrupted screen for a bit |
| 17:11.58 | arete | and it seems less stable |
| 17:12.01 | chouimat | George-: over a 56K :) |
| 17:12.11 | George- | chouimat: yah ;) |
| 17:12.23 | SuKoShi | really? |
| 17:12.25 | George- | I've got one more module to do - kdeutils |
| 17:12.27 | arete | yeah |
| 17:12.36 | chouimat | George-: good luck |
| 17:12.43 | arete | could be some interaction with the dynamism stuff |
| 17:12.52 | George- | chouimat: I hope it'll compile! This is only a 667MHz PowerPC G4, lol |
| 17:13.25 | chouimat | George-: it compile well on my P3-667 |
| 17:14.03 | EXTERNe | arete, do you know how to change some apps to make them work better on the c700 screen? |
| 17:14.09 | EXTERNe | I'd like to port zsafe and iqnotes at least |
| 17:14.35 | George- | chouimat: hrmm, my g4 will prolly be a bit faster than that :) |
| 17:14.52 | arete | tckdoto runs fine in 640x480 if you press and hold on the icon and tell it to use that mode |
| 17:14.57 | arete | er todo |
| 17:15.04 | arete | I think most apps should |
| 17:15.21 | arete | I don't really use my c700 though |
| 17:15.24 | arete | pretty disappointed in it |
| 17:15.40 | EXTERNe | ???? |
| 17:16.01 | EXTERNe | It's soo cooool ! It's replacing my 5500 cause of its screen keyboard and form factkr |
| 17:16.09 | EXTERNe | s/factkr/factor |
| 17:16.11 | arete | hehe yeah the hardware is great |
| 17:16.20 | arete | but I'm use to much higher quality PIM software from palm or microsoft |
| 17:16.29 | EXTERNe | correct |
| 17:16.38 | EXTERNe | In fact I plan to write better pim software |
| 17:16.46 | EXTERNe | What I miss most is the palm datebook |
| 17:16.58 | arete | tkc's seem nice, but they are unreasonably slow on the c700 |
| 17:17.14 | EXTERNe | and tkccalendar just don't run at all |
| 17:17.18 | arete | yeah |
| 17:17.48 | arete | I have a t-mobile sidekick, its a bit more limited than a palm or pocket pc |
| 17:17.55 | arete | but with the always connected internet, I find it does what I need well enough |
| 17:17.56 | EXTERNe | dunno which datebook app I will run until I take some time to write one strictly identical to datebk5 |
| 17:18.00 | arete | don't have to worry about syncing or anything |
| 17:18.02 | EXTERNe | datebk5 is what we need |
| 17:18.22 | arete | so I'm gonna skip the current generation of pdas, bar my c700 |
| 17:18.25 | EXTERNe | arete the sync is another project- I'd like (with other ppl) to write a zaurus daemon translating Z data to palm |
| 17:18.28 | arete | my old one is a casio em-500 |
| 17:18.35 | arete | still sadly better than anything released since |
| 17:18.38 | SuKoShi | EXTERNe: don't you know if you plan to optimize your code for PXA processor? |
| 17:18.39 | EXTERNe | so you could use palm desktop software (another thing that's missing) |
| 17:18.48 | arete | extern: isn't there an emulator? |
| 17:19.15 | SuKoShi | EXTERNe: There is intellisync coftware with my zaurus |
| 17:19.22 | SuKoShi | Dynamism doesn't provide it? |
| 17:19.31 | arete | they do, its just in japanese |
| 17:20.02 | SuKoShi | i use it, it is very easy, i should make a tutorial for those interested |
| 17:20.07 | EXTERNe | intellisync is for windows |
| 17:20.15 | EXTERNe | if you have a mac or linux you're dead |
| 17:20.24 | arete | the nice thing about the sidekick is it syncs automatically on the network |
| 17:20.30 | arete | you never have to worry about loosing anything |
| 17:20.41 | arete | if your sidekick dies, you just have another one sent, pop in the SIM card and you are good to go |
| 17:20.42 | EXTERNe | the correct solution is a daemon running on the Z, so you can use whatever palm compatible software on your desktop without any plugin |
| 17:22.55 | EXTERNe | arete, which apps do you have installed to the 700? |
| 17:23.08 | arete | just tkctodo and kismet |
| 17:23.36 | arete | like I said I don't really use it |
| 17:23.55 | EXTERNe | ok too bad. I hope I can help you when I have some pim |
| 17:24.05 | arete | hehe let me know |
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| 17:24.12 | arete | I'm hoping the openzaurus guys can fix it |
| 17:24.20 | EXTERNe | I would be ready to pay say $70 for datebk5 like software. |
| 17:24.37 | EXTERNe | opie pim is not that good. the interface sucks |
| 17:24.49 | arete | yeah, I'm more concerned about a nice fast foundation to build apps on |
| 17:25.14 | arete | they need to build it with xscale optimization and hopefully that makes it faster |
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| 17:27.55 | EXTERNe | that's not really important |
| 17:29.43 | TheMasterMind1 | hardwire: around? |
| 17:30.28 | EXTERNe | btw fellow c700 users http://externe.net/zaurus/forum/ is open now |
| 17:32.40 | hardwire | si |
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| 17:33.43 | omoore | hello all |
| 17:34.04 | omoore | is there a utility to install ipk tools onto my zaurus from linux? |
| 17:34.08 | omoore | i have ssh installed... |
| 17:34.13 | George- | omoore: why would you want to do that? |
| 17:34.24 | omoore | George-: maybe i'm not clear.. |
| 17:34.42 | omoore | George-: i want to download software while on my linux box then transfer them to my zaurus |
| 17:34.49 | George- | erm |
| 17:34.51 | omoore | George-: software from the zaurus software index... |
| 17:34.53 | George- | qtopia desktop perhaps? |
| 17:35.00 | omoore | George-: is that available for linux? |
| 17:35.03 | George- | yes |
| 17:35.18 | omoore | is there a link to it in the zaurus software index? |
| 17:35.36 | omoore | i'll google it i guess.. unless you have a URL handy |
| 17:35.57 | George- | trolltech.com |
| 17:36.21 | omoore | k.. looking now |
| 17:39.14 | omoore | found it.. thanks |
| 17:40.46 | omoore | i wish the evolution team (or someone else) would write a conduit for the Z.. qutopia desktop blows compared to things like palm desktop, evolution, jpilot, tc |
| 17:41.04 | omoore | wish i new c/c++ so i coud do it :) |
| 17:41.52 | omoore | question while it's installing... |
| 17:42.16 | omoore | does the linux version of qtopia desktop have the same issue as the windows version regarding setting the ip? |
| 17:42.40 | omoore | (ie.. the windows version changes the ip to what the 'usb' ip should be rather then maintaining my z's wireless nic ip) |
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| 18:07.29 | EXTERNe | omoore there is a conduit already |
| 18:07.44 | EXTERNe | but IMHO qtopia desktop sucks. I love jpilot though |
| 18:13.09 | omoore | actually.. the linux version of qtopia looks better than the windows version in functionality... |
| 18:13.17 | omoore | it did allow a 'WAN' ip setting |
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| 18:22.23 | Vhalros | I've heard its better, but don't actually have windows to see the windows version. |
| 18:22.24 | hardwire | TheMasterMind1: ? |
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| 18:34.57 | duke | I'm planning on buying a zuarus, but I wanted to compare the development platform against that of my buddy's handspring prism, unfortunately I can't really find any info for handspring development |
| 18:35.24 | duke | I know it's based on palm os, does the palm os have a jvm, or is that a per-vendor issue. |
| 18:37.28 | George- | duke: the Zaurus's development platform is excellent |
| 18:37.35 | George- | duke: Qt is a great toolkit |
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| 18:43.09 | George- | gtg |
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| 18:56.44 | TheMasterMind1 | hardwire: my sources tell me you're working on a mapping project |
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| 21:06.53 | EXTERNe | C700 users - try http://externe.net/zaurus/forum/ |
| 21:15.54 | hardwire | TheMasterMind1: si |
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| 21:27.08 | TheMasterMind1 | hardwire: what sort of mapping project? |
| 21:28.38 | ljp | probably a map of open AP's |
| 21:29.03 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 21:29.13 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:29.14 | hardwire | sorta |
| 21:29.50 | hardwire | a modular mapping service.. to attain informatino based on dynamic input channels (say ap hunting.. but that sorta comes later) mainly APRS and GPS |
| 21:30.10 | hardwire | make new modules for each channel |
| 21:30.14 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm i see |
| 21:30.25 | hardwire | say load a map of a hotel.. then start mapping the power of each AP |
| 21:30.35 | TheMasterMind1 | gotcha |
| 21:30.37 | hardwire | or fir right now.. I have all the tigerline data for the US |
| 21:30.43 | TheMasterMind1 | all of it? |
| 21:30.43 | hardwire | so I am doing streets with APRS/GPS |
| 21:30.49 | TheMasterMind1 | how big is that |
| 21:30.55 | hardwire | uhm.. ghastly huge |
| 21:31.00 | hardwire | Colorado is about 4 gigs |
| 21:31.07 | TheMasterMind1 | jeesus |
| 21:31.10 | hardwire | yah |
| 21:31.17 | TheMasterMind1 | ugh |
| 21:31.17 | hardwire | but there are nice portals for grabbing only what you want |
| 21:31.25 | hardwire | of that 4 gigs is a bunch of census data |
| 21:31.26 | TheMasterMind1 | i wanna reverse engineer mappoint's data format |
| 21:31.34 | TheMasterMind1 | cuz their maps are sexy |
| 21:31.39 | hardwire | so if you are driving into hicksville the general color of that county will be a low one for population |
| 21:31.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:31.49 | hardwire | I already rev engineered mappoints |
| 21:31.52 | TheMasterMind1 | what?! |
| 21:31.55 | TheMasterMind1 | seriously? |
| 21:31.55 | hardwire | What?! |
| 21:32.00 | hardwire | just don't tell them :) |
| 21:32.05 | TheMasterMind1 | care to share? |
| 21:32.08 | hardwire | yah still working the bugs out but its almost done |
| 21:32.08 | TheMasterMind1 | pleeeeassee |
| 21:32.10 | hardwire | hah |
| 21:32.11 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 21:32.13 | TheMasterMind1 | you are my god |
| 21:32.21 | hardwire | no program for it.. just the data layout and its mainly in my head :) |
| 21:32.27 | TheMasterMind1 | write it down and gimme it |
| 21:32.29 | TheMasterMind1 | seriously |
| 21:32.31 | TheMasterMind1 | i wanna help with that |
| 21:32.42 | hardwire | later on.. I have a lot of other things to do as well |
| 21:32.50 | TheMasterMind1 | come on... |
| 21:33.07 | hardwire | TheMasterMind1: well.. that requires work.. and more documentation and verification.. so when its done.. or started.. you will know |
| 21:33.16 | TheMasterMind1 | how long will that be? |
| 21:33.16 | TheMasterMind1 | ;) |
| 21:33.24 | hardwire | long enough to drive you borerline insane |
| 21:33.27 | hardwire | borderline |
| 21:33.27 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:33.42 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit |
| 21:33.47 | hardwire | They wanna bust people for rev engineering it |
| 21:33.54 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, i'm sure |
| 21:34.07 | hardwire | I have to look over REverse Engineering rights and a few things.. based on the new events of Adobe vs hackers |
| 21:34.21 | TheMasterMind1 | where are you locateD? |
| 21:34.26 | hardwire | ColoradO |
| 21:34.41 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 21:34.57 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:34.59 | TheMasterMind1 | tell me what you've figured out, and i'll work on it and expand it. |
| 21:35.03 | hardwire | I will |
| 21:35.08 | hardwire | as soon as I feel like documenting it |
| 21:35.20 | TheMasterMind1 | which will take forever |
| 21:35.21 | hardwire | thats the only way you can get it |
| 21:35.21 | TheMasterMind1 | fun :) |
| 21:35.21 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:35.26 | hardwire | well how else.. |
| 21:35.30 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:35.34 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, you're right |
| 21:35.43 | hardwire | anyhoot.. I have me a kitchen to clean |
| 21:35.47 | hardwire | and the software is called GCT |
| 21:35.51 | hardwire | or Guidie Chipie Thingie |
| 21:36.29 | hardwire | gotta come up with another acronym for it.. Geographic Cube Tootsies |
| 21:36.33 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 21:36.39 | hardwire | I like Guidie Chipie Thingie cause of its Zim reference |
| 21:36.44 | hardwire | bbl |
| 21:36.47 | TheMasterMind1 | later |
| 21:36.59 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll bitch at you everytime i see you to document that stuff :) |
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| 22:14.11 | johnson | c |
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| 22:35.47 | sheenmaster | who is in charge of the Z port of kaffe? |
| 22:41.04 | sheenmaster | when trying to run my app(a simple RPN interpretter), it not only crashes but it takes it's container(ssh or terminal) out with it |
| 22:41.23 | sheenmaster | my program works perfectly in Java and Kaffe on my iBook |
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| 23:35.33 | mdz | anyone out there successfully using 2.4.20 with the usbnet patch to talk to the zaurus? |
| 23:36.23 | raster | hmmmmm |
| 23:36.29 | raster | i think i did with 2.4.19 |
| 23:36.34 | raster | from memory |
| 23:37.00 | mdz | I seem to be receiving packets from the Z OK, but when I transmit it doesn't seem to make it through |
| 23:40.36 | mdz | the errors and dropped counters on the Z go up with each packet I try to send |
| 23:40.51 | mdz | with CRC errors in the kernel log |
| 23:41.16 | mdz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.31 | mdz | etc. |
| 23:42.19 | Pendalar | I've almost got my Z set back up from reflashing the new OZ rc |
| 23:42.36 | Pendalar | down to trying to figure out why minIDE isn't happy on cf/sd |
| 23:45.50 | raster | not sure whats going on |
| 23:45.58 | raster | maybe its the usb driver/hware etc.? |
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