| 00:00.58 | TDT | wow, can't believe I just crashed the gui lol |
| 00:01.01 | kergoth | hey Shayde |
| 00:01.06 | kergoth | TDT: what rom? |
| 00:01.08 | Shayde | hey kergoth, folks. |
| 00:01.12 | TDT | kergoth: 3.0 |
| 00:01.17 | kergoth | TDT: yeah, 3.0 will do that |
| 00:01.55 | TDT | kergoth: fun...are the release cand. a bit more stable in the gui area? |
| 00:02.45 | kergoth | yup |
| 00:02.48 | kergoth | surprisingly |
| 00:03.24 | TDT | kergoth: cool, maybe I'll have to give that a try once I can get this back up some |
| 00:03.43 | TDT | hmm...you can install fluxbox? |
| 00:03.49 | TDT | that's crazy if you can |
| 00:03.55 | kergoth | yeah, you can use X isntead of opie if you want |
| 00:04.02 | kergoth | the ipaq folks use X quite a bit |
| 00:04.21 | TDT | does X take up more space in general than opie? |
| 00:04.29 | TDT | (guessing it does) |
| 00:04.31 | kergoth | tends to need more libs |
| 00:05.21 | TDT | how many more libs...I only have a 128 meg SD card lol |
| 00:05.38 | TDT | I don't know what the X in redhat takes..I know it's quite a bit though. |
| 00:05.52 | treke | TDT: X in redhat and tinyX arent the same thing |
| 00:06.31 | TDT | treke: dunno what "tinyX" is. Is tinyX what a person can use on the zaurus? |
| 00:06.31 | treke | TDT: plain X and gpe apps probably come in around the same size as an opie install. If you start using other toolkits you have to install all their dependencies |
| 00:07.39 | TDT | treke: ah hmm...probably don't need X bad enough to really tweak for it. |
| 00:07.42 | treke | kergoth: after reading through the debian-handhelds archive, I dont think it's going to go anywhere :) |
| 00:09.57 | TDT | I see "openoffice" in the list of available apps (using the zaurus browser). Does anyone here use it? |
| 00:11.42 | treke | openoffice? You're kidding me right? |
| 00:12.40 | TDT | it's some font/libraries, but I'm assuming that it's hiding there somewhere |
| 00:12.53 | TDT | if openoffice works, or if there is a full port I would be very happy lol |
| 00:13.23 | treke | ggilbert@dreamland:~$ dpigs |
| 00:13.23 | treke | 109188 openoffice.org-bin |
| 00:13.36 | treke | That would be an awfully large program for a pda :) |
| 00:13.51 | TDT | lol |
| 00:14.05 | TDT | yeah, but myabe a slimmed down versin would be available |
| 00:14.10 | TDT | omg |
| 00:14.13 | TDT | it crashed again |
| 00:14.27 | TDT | i was installing programs too...wonderful |
| 00:18.45 | TDT | installing the beta release lol |
| 00:19.04 | kergoth | treke: hehe, too much dissention? |
| 00:19.34 | treke | kergoth: A bit :) |
| 00:19.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:19.39 | treke | its very debian like |
| 00:19.43 | kergoth | yep, it is |
| 00:19.52 | kergoth | glad to see opie packaged for debian though |
| 00:20.39 | treke | "we need binaries for ipaq, arm, zaurus, x11-ipaq, x11-zaurus,x11-arm" |
| 00:20.53 | treke | "and 10 other platforms that opie was never ported to" |
| 00:21.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:21.49 | treke | because you know there are lots of alpha users that are going to be running opie |
| 00:22.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:22.43 | treke | I think openembedded's place is safe :) |
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| 00:28.59 | TDT | I have to say this little card reader is very nice to have |
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| 00:29.32 | find_me | JasonNJ: are you in nj |
| 00:30.16 | chouimat|souper | find_me: no earth |
| 00:30.19 | raceme | bye bye all |
| 00:30.29 | TDT | raceme[zzz]: cya |
| 00:30.56 | find_me | i am from mars. visiting earthlings. heard nj was a good place. |
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| 00:39.03 | Neo|Work | http://home.online.no/~gremmem/engrish_ttt_captions/index.htm |
| 00:40.09 | TDT | wow, today just isn't my luck |
| 00:40.37 | TDT | I just upgraded to the new testing OZ package...and now my wireless lan card doesn't work any longer |
| 00:41.05 | kergoth | TDT: upgrade your hostap-modules from unstable |
| 00:41.09 | kergoth | known bug, fixed |
| 00:41.16 | ShadowHorn | how do i set up a link from my /root/Documents folder to my /mnt/cf/Documents folder? |
| 00:41.42 | TDT | kergoth: Can I just download that from the site onto my CF card, then transfer it over? or is there anything special I have to do? |
| 00:41.55 | kergoth | yes thats fine |
| 00:42.07 | kergoth | ShadowHorn: mv /root/Documents /mnt/cf/; ln -sf /mnt/cf/Documents /root/Documents; |
| 00:42.32 | ShadowHorn | k, let me give that a try. |
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| 00:42.57 | TDT | kergoth: is it in the stable tree? or in the unstable tree? |
| 00:43.19 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:43.27 | kergoth | what part of 'upgrade your hostap-modules from unstable' dont you understand? |
| 00:44.07 | TDT | kergoth: just about all of it unfortunately. Checking the trees now though |
| 00:45.32 | TDT | this little flash reader is coming in more and more handy |
| 00:45.46 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:45.50 | kergoth | you need hostap-modules |
| 00:45.53 | kergoth | from the unstable branch |
| 00:45.54 | kergoth | .. |
| 00:46.00 | kergoth | how much more clear can i get? |
| 00:46.00 | TDT | kergoth: this little flash reader I got fromt he computer |
| 00:46.16 | TDT | kergoth: retyping "the flash reader I got today because i foobared my install" |
| 00:46.19 | kergoth | yeah, readers are nice |
| 00:46.31 | TDT | kergoth: It's handy..and I never expected to use it |
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| 00:51.55 | TDT | new card "unsupported card" - maybe my card was missed with the fixing. |
| 00:52.28 | kergoth | did you reboot? |
| 00:52.37 | kergoth | the card entries are only parsed on startup |
| 00:52.48 | TDT | no, just a fresh unisntall, and fresh reinstall. I'll reboot it now |
| 00:52.53 | kergoth | k |
| 00:53.01 | kergoth | what version did you uninstall? the one from unstable right? |
| 00:53.02 | kergoth | er |
| 00:53.04 | kergoth | s/un/re/ |
| 00:53.23 | TDT | I uninstalled the version that was on the zaurus, and installed the one I got from the unstable tree. |
| 00:53.44 | kergoth | good good |
| 00:54.02 | TDT | my card is flashing, that's good...at least I know it's going. |
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| 01:02.57 | TDT | yep yep, the beta is very stable so far lol |
| 01:03.42 | kergoth | card working now? |
| 01:03.57 | TDT | kergoth: so far that's working, and all the stuff installing is working well too |
| 01:04.01 | TDT | so far it's very stable |
| 01:04.05 | kergoth | great |
| 01:04.08 | kergoth | glad to hear it |
| 01:04.16 | TDT | kergoth: thx for the help on this too, I appreciate it. |
| 01:04.26 | kergoth | no problem |
| 01:04.59 | TDT | kergoth: Hopefully i won't have to bother the channel again for quite some time :P although I want to develop on the zaurus eventually (compile, and run C++ and JAVA apps) but I remember seeing some help files on those someplace, i'll have to dig in bookmarks |
| 01:05.27 | kergoth | ibot: tell TDT about howtos |
| 01:05.31 | kergoth | ibot: faq |
| 01:05.32 | | i guess faq is Is george- human,ever going to grow up? |
| 01:05.36 | kergoth | bleh |
| 01:05.38 | kergoth | ibot: forget faq |
| 01:05.38 | | i forgot faq, kergoth |
| 01:06.17 | warmi | http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos |
| 01:07.08 | kergoth | yeah, the bot told him |
| 01:07.11 | kergoth | ibot: tell warmi about howtos |
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| 01:07.21 | jwiens | ~oz bk |
| 01:07.22 | | it has been said that oz bk is bk clone http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/openzaurus .config; make oldconfig; make or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you don't want to use bk |
| 01:07.35 | TDT | kergoth: one more thing though...I notice i have internal storage of / jffs2 14464Kb and it's pretty large...but installing the files seemed to take up that space, although everything is linked to the sd card. |
| 01:07.45 | kergoth | .. |
| 01:07.48 | TDT | is there a temporary directory where this stuff is hidden at that I need to look at? |
| 01:07.49 | kergoth | define 'everything' |
| 01:07.57 | kergoth | 'everything' is linked to the sd card |
| 01:08.27 | TDT | kergoth: everything that you told me to link. applications, settings and something else. |
| 01:08.33 | kergoth | thats not for apps |
| 01:08.37 | kergoth | thats _only_ application _DATA_ |
| 01:08.43 | kergoth | the apps themselves go wherever you install them to. |
| 01:08.49 | kergoth | if you install them to root/flash, they go in root/flash. |
| 01:09.13 | numatrix|home | Buildroot have issues? I'm getting a message, something about RESYNC when I try to pull. |
| 01:09.24 | kergoth | numatrix|home: bk resolve |
| 01:09.34 | kergoth | numatrix|home: your repos found conflicts, you need to resolve them |
| 01:09.43 | kergoth | or you have modified files that arent ci'd |
| 01:10.09 | numatrix|home | kergoth: Cool. A first for me. I just did a completely fresh clone earlier today, and I didn't change anything, so that's kinda odd, but the resolve is running. |
| 01:10.29 | numatrix|home | ack. Bitkeeper does ~not~ like host names like localhost.localdomain |
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| 01:35.25 | TDT | wow, after about the 50th flash, I think I'm getting it |
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| 01:42.04 | chatuser | Hello to everyone |
| 01:42.55 | chatuser | Does the zaurus have any images that support jffs or does it only support cramfs? |
| 01:43.07 | treke|home | openzaurus uses jffs2 |
| 01:43.35 | chatuser | So when you install it on the flash. It is a jffs image? |
| 01:43.39 | treke|home | yes |
| 01:43.43 | chatuser | oh |
| 01:43.44 | chatuser | ok |
| 01:44.11 | treke|home | the sl5500 roms from sharp all use cramfs ( or some other read only fs) |
| 01:45.36 | chatuser | so the kernel from handhelds.org is the one that openzaurus uses? |
| 01:46.17 | treke|home | no |
| 01:46.21 | treke|home | that is an ipaq kernel |
| 01:46.32 | treke|home | openzaurus uses it's own kernel based off the source from sharp |
| 01:46.56 | chatuser | Hmmm, ok, so what is the lastest kernel version then? |
| 01:47.16 | treke|home | 2.4.6 |
| 01:47.40 | chatuser | That is the latest, hmmm, no offense but that is old now |
| 01:47.50 | treke|home | yes it is |
| 01:54.24 | TDT | What's the screen resolution of the zaurus? in pixels? |
| 01:54.30 | krezel | 320x240 |
| 01:54.33 | treke|home | 320x240 |
| 01:54.45 | TDT | krezel and treke|home thx |
| 01:54.50 | krezel | I beat ya |
| 01:55.03 | TDT | lol |
| 01:55.08 | TDT | you two have it memorized |
| 01:55.40 | TDT | man I hope thse installs work out ok...I'm trying to install XMMS on my SD card, lots of symlink errors |
| 01:56.11 | krezel | The Z's whole double symlink thing is nuts |
| 01:56.38 | TDT | it failed to symlink a whole bunch of things |
| 01:56.42 | treke|home | the sharp rom is insane. use openzaurus |
| 01:56.42 | TDT | I don't think it installed right |
| 01:56.45 | krezel | Yuck |
| 01:57.06 | TDT | this is wish openzaurus to be exact :-/ |
| 01:57.13 | TDT | I got at least 100 symlink errors |
| 01:57.30 | krezel | Is it possible to build a sharp rom/kernel that does like the 48/16 split of memory like the OZ ones do? |
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| 02:00.58 | TDT | anyone know where the information for the calendar,contacts, etc are stored on the zaurus? |
| 02:01.11 | treke|home | $HOME/applications |
| 02:02.02 | TDT | treke|home: thx. I was hoping there, because I linked them all to my SD stick. |
| 02:02.18 | TDT | I'm trying to get this in such a way that I can flash my memory any time and still have all my information safe. |
| 02:02.43 | treke|home | move $home to sd |
| 02:03.52 | TDT | I already moved /home/Applications, and a few others to my SD sick (kergoth suggested it) |
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| 02:06.15 | TDT | I like the new themes on the OZ, they are very cool |
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| 02:20.21 | kergoth`bbl | TDT: tried flat yet? :) |
| 02:21.18 | TDT | kergoth: almost, lol |
| 02:21.37 | TDT | kergoth: But so far I got it flashed again, and it to install everything to the SD card, and I relinked the directories you told me to. |
| 02:22.05 | TDT | kergoth: So far it's setting up quite nicely. The beta OZ isn't fully stable for me (crashes sometimes during certain activities) but overall it's really nice. |
| 02:22.17 | TDT | kergoth: especially compared to the 3.0 |
| 02:24.39 | JasonNJ | oh my god, Zoolander is the worst movie in existence |
| 02:24.47 | kergoth | JasonNJ: oh yeah |
| 02:24.54 | JasonNJ | I just tried to watch it on Tivo, I couldnt stand it after 15 minutes |
| 02:24.58 | kergoth | hah |
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| 02:25.01 | JasonNJ | my wife is STILL watching it |
| 02:25.11 | kergoth | I paid $$ for it! at the theatre no less! |
| 02:25.20 | JasonNJ | you sat through the whole thing? |
| 02:25.28 | kergoth | yeah, with a few friends |
| 02:25.30 | JasonNJ | without trying to kill yourself? |
| 02:25.34 | kergoth | haha |
| 02:25.46 | kergoth | i work in tech support, restraining myself is part of the job description |
| 02:25.49 | TDT | remind me never to watch it lol |
| 02:25.57 | JasonNJ | charlies angels is only SLIGHTLY better than this movie |
| 02:26.15 | kergoth | i just watched my payback dvd again last night |
| 02:26.18 | JasonNJ | and thats because it has good looking chicks in it |
| 02:26.18 | kergoth | i love that movie |
| 02:26.39 | treke|home | payback was a good one |
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| 02:26.48 | JasonNJ | I've never seen payback |
| 02:27.18 | krezel | You have to see it |
| 02:27.20 | JasonNJ | I can tell I'm going to have to exert my manliness on getting my way in what I want to watch on TV |
| 02:27.24 | kergoth | "He's just shooting holes in my alegator bags and ruining my suits! thats just MEAN man!" |
| 02:27.42 | krezel | yeah its kergoth's kind of movie :) |
| 02:27.50 | treke|home | JasonNJ: so your gonna watch zoolander, eh? |
| 02:27.52 | JasonNJ | I have "Secret Japanese Aircraft of WWII" taping on the History Channel now |
| 02:28.05 | JasonNJ | my wife was like "eww.... war stuff" |
| 02:28.11 | kergoth | eww? hah |
| 02:28.39 | JasonNJ | my wife is such a girl |
| 02:29.30 | krezel | I'd hope she was a girl... :) |
| 02:29.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:30.00 | JasonNJ | krez: last time I made a visual inspection, yes |
| 02:30.17 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 02:30.18 | JasonNJ | you never can be too sure though |
| 02:30.18 | ulyx | You shitfaced cockmaster. |
| 02:30.21 | krezel | Thats very important, I usually try and check pretty early in the relationship |
| 02:30.35 | TDT | Would anyone have an idea why things are so incredibly slow on the zaurus now? the rich text editor and such..is it because of it being installed on the SD card? |
| 02:30.54 | kergoth | TDT: apps installed to SD always take a bit longer to start due to the speed of sd |
| 02:30.58 | JasonNJ | although, the fact that she is STILL watching zoolander is probably a good sign |
| 02:31.23 | TDT | kergoth: ah...hmm...I tried opie-write and it took forever to load, and to use the menus and stuff. |
| 02:31.27 | JasonNJ | only a chick could stomach such a horrendous flick |
| 02:31.47 | kergoth | JasonNJ: yes, my friend's g/f loved it |
| 02:31.52 | kergoth | it was sickening |
| 02:32.10 | JasonNJ | the only funny part is the mugatu character with his dog |
| 02:32.32 | kergoth | i dont remember that, but thats probably because i blocked it out |
| 02:32.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:33.09 | JasonNJ | the evil fashion designer dude and his poodle |
| 02:33.15 | JasonNJ | with the stupid hair |
| 02:33.19 | kergoth | ahh yea |
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| 02:34.38 | JasonNJ | treke: you dont count, youre german |
| 02:34.48 | krezel | Hah |
| 02:34.58 | treke|home | I am? |
| 02:35.03 | kergoth | lol |
| 02:35.04 | JasonNJ | arent you? |
| 02:35.07 | treke|home | no |
| 02:35.10 | krezel | haha apparently not |
| 02:35.11 | JasonNJ | or is that zeke |
| 02:35.18 | treke|home | that is zecke |
| 02:35.19 | JasonNJ | I keep confusing you two |
| 02:35.27 | kergoth | ulyx: lart JasonNJ |
| 02:35.33 | kergoth | egad |
| 02:35.36 | kergoth | that bot is just mean |
| 02:35.41 | krezel | Yow |
| 02:35.48 | treke|home | chouimat has issues |
| 02:35.49 | krezel | another thing for the wifey to be eeewed out by |
| 02:35.53 | JasonNJ | treke: where are you from again? |
| 02:35.58 | treke|home | JasonNJ: california |
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| 02:36.05 | treke|home | ulyx, praise kergoth |
| 02:36.13 | JasonNJ | germany, california, same difference |
| 02:36.15 | Bala | issues indeeeeed :) |
| 02:36.16 | krezel | Californian, german, same difference |
| 02:36.18 | krezel | hey now |
| 02:36.21 | kergoth | i hope that bot's female |
| 02:36.32 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 02:36.32 | ulyx | You're a fucking faggot, dude. |
| 02:36.42 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 02:36.42 | ulyx | What the heck is a rimjaw? Oh, that's when you put your legs behind your head and have somebody lick your ass. |
| 02:36.59 | krezel | rimJOB not rimJAW... |
| 02:37.09 | kergoth | yep, somebody typo'd |
| 02:37.12 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 02:37.12 | ulyx | What say you, Mr. American Ambassador? Fuck Canada! |
| 02:37.34 | JasonNJ | who is typing all this shit into ulyx? |
| 02:37.41 | kergoth | JasonNJ: its fortune |
| 02:37.43 | kergoth | 'fortune' |
| 02:37.51 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune list |
| 02:37.51 | ulyx | ___% /usr/share/games/fortune, ___% fortunes, ___% fortunes2 |
| 02:37.54 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 02:37.55 | ulyx | This limerick is **SO**FILTHY** that it would offend you. So I'll put "di-dah" for the filthy words: Di-dah, di-dah, di-dah di-dah, Di-dah di-dah di-dah, di-dah; di-dah di-dah di-dah? Di-dah di-dah di-dah. Di-dah di-dah, di-dah di-fuck. |
| 02:38.27 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune chalkboard |
| 02:38.27 | ulyx | I WILL NOT TEASE FATTY I WILL NOT TEASE FATTY I WILL NOT TEASE FATTY I WILL NOT TEASE FATTY Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 5F05 |
| 02:38.28 | chouimat|tv | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 02:38.28 | ulyx | Boy, when Marge first told me she was going to the Police Academy, I thought it's be fun and exciting, like the movie `Spaceballs.' But instead, it's been painful and disturbing, like the movie `Police Academy.' -- Homer Simpson The Springfield Connection |
| 02:38.33 | JasonNJ | hmm, we need a Qt version for the zaurus. |
| 02:38.40 | kergoth | JasonNJ: theres a fortune plugin for today |
| 02:38.59 | chouimat|tv | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 02:38.59 | ulyx | Homer:I want everyone to know that this is Ned Flanders ... my friend! Lenny:What'd he say? Carl:I dunno. Somethin' about being gay. Homer Loves Flanders |
| 02:39.04 | sheenmaster | JasonNJ: we have a terminal! |
| 02:39.11 | oGMo | heh |
| 02:39.12 | sheenmaster | JasonNJ: clear && fortune |
| 02:39.20 | sheenmaster | JasonNJ: up+enter for the next one! |
| 02:39.31 | chouimat|tv | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 02:39.31 | ulyx | Homer:This place is depressing. Grampa:Hey! I live here. Homer:Oh, well, I'm sure it's a blastonce you get used to it. -- Homer Simpson Bart vs. Thanksgiving |
| 02:39.39 | kergoth | eheh |
| 02:39.43 | JasonNJ | cool, whenever I get my Zauruses back, I'll try it. IF I ever get them back that is |
| 02:39.43 | chouimat|tv | ulyx: fortune |
| 02:39.44 | ulyx | "Do you cheat on your wife?" asked the psychiatrist. "Who else?" answered the patient. |
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| 02:39.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:40.05 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 02:40.06 | *** part/#zaurus topeira (~topeira@200.217.37.227) |
| 02:40.06 | ulyx | Weeeeellllllll, Kyle's mom's a bitch, she's a big fat bitch, she's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world, she's a stupid bitch, if there ever was a bitch, she's a bitch to all the boy's and girls! On Monday she's a bitch, on Tuesday she's a bitch, on Wednesday through Saturday, she's a bitch then on Sunday, just to be different, she's a super King Kamehameha bee-itch! C'mon you know the words! |
| 02:40.11 | JasonNJ | I am, at the moment, Zaurus-less. |
| 02:40.28 | *** join/#zaurus treke|laptop (~ggilbert@lsanca2-ar29-4-41-064-064.lsanca2.elnk.dsl.genuity.net) |
| 02:40.33 | krezel | I cracked a nice big hole in the screen on mine |
| 02:40.40 | kergoth | ack |
| 02:40.47 | JasonNJ | purposely? cool. |
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| 02:40.56 | chouimat|tv | ulyx: fortune bofh-excuses |
| 02:40.56 | ulyx | BOFH Excuse #346: Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up. |
| 02:41.06 | kergoth | ulyx: praise Cloudchaser |
| 02:41.21 | Cloudchaser | hehe |
| 02:41.23 | Cloudchaser | hiya |
| 02:41.28 | chouimat|tv | ulyx: fortune |
| 02:41.28 | ulyx | Vegetarians for oral sex -- "The only meat that's fit to eat" |
| 02:41.37 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:41.44 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 02:41.45 | ulyx | Read your town charter, boy. `If food stuffs should touch the ground, said food stuffs shall be turned over to the village idiot.' Since I don't see him around, start shoveling! -- Homer Simpson Lisa's Rival |
| 02:41.59 | verbimser | hi all! |
| 02:42.43 | verbimser | does anybody know how many write cycles the zaurus internal flash rom can take? |
| 02:43.01 | Cloudchaser | oh..12 or 15 anyway :) |
| 02:43.12 | Cloudchaser | j/k |
| 02:43.22 | verbimser | *g* |
| 02:43.34 | treke|laptop | 20 |
| 02:43.39 | kergoth | 7.5 |
| 02:43.40 | JasonNJ | verb: I dunno but i have done it at least 600 times. |
| 02:43.53 | JasonNJ | to the zaurus I had back at the office. |
| 02:43.53 | Cloudchaser | i have to do a demonstration for my class in 2 weeks..on security and how to protect your computer, which is fairly easy |
| 02:43.56 | chouimat|tv | verbimser: 3 |
| 02:44.11 | Cloudchaser | but..i need to also demonstrate some of the ways people can get into your computer :0 |
| 02:44.15 | chouimat|tv | Cloudchaser: install a pitbull near it |
| 02:44.16 | kergoth | shit, doing remote development for hte c700 sucks |
| 02:44.17 | treke|laptop | Cloudchaser: Unplugh the network cable and lock it in a room |
| 02:44.21 | kergoth | i keep having to scp 24 meg images around |
| 02:44.39 | Cloudchaser | hehe well treke|laptop thats the ultimate in secure |
| 02:44.50 | chouimat|tv | treke|home: and the electrical cable too + a pitbull |
| 02:45.02 | Cloudchaser | but there's steps you can take to...eliminate some of the easier break-in methods |
| 02:45.25 | chouimat|tv | Cloudchaser: yup. step 1 ) Uninstall Windows .... |
| 02:45.33 | Cloudchaser | haha yeah i'll demonstrate that too |
| 02:45.43 | kergoth | okay, hopefully this image actually loads the rcS scripts |
| 02:45.46 | kergoth | hm |
| 02:45.57 | Cloudchaser | guess i'll go buy a hacking book this week |
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| 02:46.01 | chouimat|tv | ulyx fortune |
| 02:46.01 | ulyx | An egg has the shortest sex-life of all: it gets laid once; it gets eaten once. It also has to come in a box with 11 others, and the only person who will sit on its face is its mother. |
| 02:46.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:46.36 | Cloudchaser | who's lovely bot is ulyx? |
| 02:46.41 | kergoth | chouimat|tv's |
| 02:46.45 | kergoth | ulyx: lart ulyx |
| 02:46.50 | kergoth | jesus man |
| 02:46.57 | kergoth | ibot: lart dessimat0r |
| 02:47.00 | chouimat|tv | kergoth: I'm fixing that |
| 02:47.08 | JasonNJ | ulyx: lart Canada |
| 02:47.11 | Cloudchaser | yes some of his sayings are a bit... |
| 02:47.13 | kergoth | help? |
| 02:47.14 | kergoth | lol |
| 02:47.21 | treke|laptop | ulyx lart kergoth |
| 02:47.37 | kergoth | ibot: kill treke|laptop |
| 02:47.39 | | ACTION slits treke|laptop's throat |
| 02:47.49 | treke|laptop | uly, lart ibot |
| 02:47.53 | treke|laptop | ulyx, lart ibot |
| 02:47.53 | JasonNJ | ulyx: lart Sugar |
| 02:48.04 | treke|laptop | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:48.04 | ulyx | treke|laptop: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:48.09 | kergoth | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:48.09 | ulyx | kergoth: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:48.14 | JasonNJ | can we get the bots to fight? |
| 02:48.18 | kergoth | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:48.18 | ulyx | kergoth: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:48.19 | treke|laptop | JasonNJ: yes |
| 02:48.19 | oGMo | hehehe |
| 02:48.30 | JasonNJ | ulyx: fight ibot |
| 02:48.33 | treke|laptop | JasonNJ: I dont recommend it, its a pain to get them to shut up |
| 02:48.38 | krezel | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:48.38 | ulyx | krezel: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:48.42 | treke|laptop | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:48.42 | ulyx | treke|laptop: chamber 6 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:48.45 | kergoth | yeah, ibot and sugar were stuck in a loop one time |
| 02:48.53 | kergoth | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:48.53 | ulyx | kergoth: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:48.58 | JasonNJ | sugar: lart ulyx |
| 02:49.01 | treke|laptop | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:49.01 | ulyx | treke|laptop: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:49.02 | krezel | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:49.02 | ulyx | krezel: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:49.05 | kergoth | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:49.08 | arete | bang |
| 02:49.09 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:49.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:49.11 | oGMo | just make one bot ask a question to the other obt |
| 02:49.11 | *** join/#zaurus ulyx (~ulyx@modemcable120.184-130-66.que.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:49.20 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart dessimat0r |
| 02:49.20 | oGMo | and the other respond in turn |
| 02:49.27 | oGMo | muahaha |
| 02:49.32 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart dessimat0r |
| 02:49.47 | treke|laptop | ulyx: lart chouimat|tv |
| 02:49.48 | kergoth | ulyx: ibotdeath is <reply> ibot: ulyxdeath? |
| 02:49.49 | ulyx | *shrug* |
| 02:49.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:49.58 | kergoth | ulyx: ibotdeath is <reply> ibot\: ulyxdeath? |
| 02:49.58 | ulyx | don't ask me |
| 02:50.04 | kergoth | damnit |
| 02:50.07 | kergoth | heheh |
| 02:50.08 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart kergoth |
| 02:50.17 | kergoth | ouch |
| 02:50.20 | TDT | which is faster for data transfers? SD or CF? Also which uses less battery power? SD or CF? or are both about the same? |
| 02:50.22 | treke|laptop | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:50.24 | kergoth | hell of a way to wakeup |
| 02:50.28 | oGMo | ulyx: ibotdeath is <reply>ibot: ulyxdeath\? |
| 02:50.29 | ulyx | aight |
| 02:50.29 | kergoth | TDT: cf is far faster |
| 02:50.35 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:50.35 | treke|laptop | kergoth: at least it was just your nipples |
| 02:50.40 | kergoth | treke|laptop: true that |
| 02:50.42 | oGMo | i'm _not_ going further than that ;) |
| 02:50.42 | chouimat|tv | ulyx: ibotdeath? |
| 02:50.56 | TDT | kergoth: does CF use more battery power than SD? |
| 02:50.58 | kergoth | ulyx: no, ibotdeath is <reply>ibot: ulyxdeath |
| 02:50.58 | ulyx | done |
| 02:51.07 | oGMo | aha. |
| 02:51.08 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:51.08 | kergoth | ibot: ulyxdeath is <reply> ulyx: ibotdeath? |
| 02:51.09 | | kergoth: okay |
| 02:51.16 | kergoth | ulyx: ibotdeath |
| 02:51.18 | oGMo | uh oh |
| 02:51.19 | kergoth | ulyx: ibotdeath? |
| 02:51.19 | ulyx | ibot: ulyxdeath |
| 02:51.20 | | ulyx: ibotdeath? |
| 02:51.23 | oGMo | hahaha |
| 02:51.29 | kergoth | aha |
| 02:51.30 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:51.30 | kergoth | i forgot |
| 02:51.31 | oGMo | kergoth++ |
| 02:51.32 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:51.36 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:51.36 | treke|laptop | uly lart kergoth |
| 02:51.37 | kergoth | ibot has its time delay thing |
| 02:51.37 | | kergoth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 02:51.43 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:51.46 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:51.51 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart ibot |
| 02:51.57 | kergoth | ulyx: ibotdeath |
| 02:52.03 | kergoth | ulyx: ibotdeath? |
| 02:52.03 | ulyx | ibot: ulyxdeath |
| 02:52.04 | | ulyx: ibotdeath? |
| 02:52.10 | kergoth | they're too quick |
| 02:52.12 | kergoth | ah well |
| 02:52.24 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart kergoth |
| 02:52.55 | treke|laptop | ulyx sugardeath is <reply> Sugar: ulyxdeath? |
| 02:52.56 | ulyx | *shrug* |
| 02:53.01 | JasonNJ | see, I lose my job and this is what this place devolves into. |
| 02:53.02 | treke|laptop | ulyx sugardeath is <reply> Sugar\: ulyxdeath? |
| 02:53.02 | ulyx | you best check yo'self |
| 02:53.07 | kergoth | JasonNJ: lol |
| 02:53.08 | chouimat|tv | kergoth: I added that one : closes his zaurus keyboard on <who>'s nuts |
| 02:53.14 | kergoth | chouimat|tv: hah |
| 02:53.32 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart JasonNJ |
| 02:53.42 | kergoth | evil :) |
| 02:53.50 | JasonNJ | yes and we all know, debian is a virus |
| 02:54.01 | kergoth | ibot: debian? |
| 02:54.01 | | [debian] a Linux-Distribution (http://www.debian.org) or very cool or the best thing since sliced macaroni and cheese, or one of the few respectable distros |
| 02:54.13 | kergoth | best thing since sliced macaroni and cheese? |
| 02:54.15 | JasonNJ | actually its not debian itself I have a problem with, its debian PEOPLE |
| 02:54.26 | mrluisp | hehe, debian people |
| 02:54.29 | kergoth | heh, i hate the debian political nonsense |
| 02:54.31 | oGMo | JasonNJ: hehe |
| 02:54.33 | oGMo | yeah |
| 02:54.33 | kergoth | i just ignore it |
| 02:54.37 | chouimat|tv | ulyx lart debian people |
| 02:54.37 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:54.46 | treke|laptop | JasonNJ: so I take it you arent gonna back the debian-handhelds project? |
| 02:54.49 | kergoth | ibot: ulyxdeath |
| 02:54.49 | | ulyx: ibotdeath? |
| 02:54.56 | JasonNJ | treke: ah, no. |
| 02:55.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:55.10 | JasonNJ | I have a dysfunctional family already. |
| 02:55.12 | treke|laptop | sugar, ulyxdeath is <reply> ulyx, sugardeath? |
| 02:55.26 | kergoth | Sugar: make me a long island |
| 02:55.43 | kergoth | I just realized I'm out of scotch, tquila, and sour mix |
| 02:55.45 | kergoth | hm |
| 02:55.45 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a cuba libre |
| 02:55.54 | JasonNJ | cool. |
| 02:56.00 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a slippery nipple |
| 02:56.11 | chouimat|tv | Sugar: make me a velvet pussy |
| 02:56.19 | treke|laptop | kergoth: I wonder if debian-handhelds is just gonna be intimate |
| 02:56.28 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a mojito |
| 02:56.29 | Cloudchaser | so JasonNJ...you don't work for sharp any more (I read back last night)..what will you do next? |
| 02:56.56 | chouimat|tv | ulyx velvet pussy? |
| 02:56.57 | ulyx | velvet pussy is Guiness and porto |
| 02:57.02 | kergoth | treke|laptop: hehe, who knows. I'd _like_ to see all the debian based handheld distros coordinate better, but i doubt debian-handhelds will be what does it |
| 02:57.02 | JasonNJ | Cloud: I think I'm gonna sit on my ass for a few weeks. Maybe go down to florida and eat stone crabs. Then start a software company I think. |
| 02:57.05 | treke|laptop | <JasonNS> I'm going to disneyland! |
| 02:57.25 | Cloudchaser | JasonNJ: good luck to you! |
| 02:57.29 | kergoth | treke|laptop: I think OE will be able to be what solves the coordination problem, myself |
| 02:57.32 | kergoth | we'll see |
| 02:58.03 | JasonNJ | I'm hoping to stick around the handheld linux scene though. |
| 02:58.20 | chouimat|tv | ibot: go postal |
| 02:58.24 | | ACTION rampages, killing everyone in sight! |
| 02:58.35 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a bloody mary |
| 02:59.00 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a strawberry daquiri |
| 02:59.36 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a harvey wallbanger |
| 02:59.49 | kergoth | whats a collins glass, out of curiosity? |
| 02:59.51 | chouimat|tv | ewww |
| 02:59.57 | Cloudchaser | its a tall glass |
| 03:00.03 | TDT | Are there any good programs out there for keeping track of grades, class information, school work, etc? |
| 03:00.04 | JasonNJ | its a tall tubular glass |
| 03:00.08 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:00.19 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:00.20 | chouimat|tv | arrrrgggggggggggg no more porto .... |
| 03:00.21 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a mint julep |
| 03:00.22 | Sugar | sorry |
| 03:00.34 | krezel | Any good suggestions for XChat scripts? |
| 03:00.38 | Cloudchaser | Sugar: make me a mudslide |
| 03:00.44 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a caipirinha |
| 03:00.44 | sjborch | TDT: you might want to create s spreadsheet, and there are several options. |
| 03:00.52 | kergoth | hrm |
| 03:00.59 | Cloudchaser | sugar needs more recipes! |
| 03:01.02 | JasonNJ | I think I blew its mind |
| 03:01.15 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a vodka martini |
| 03:01.17 | krezel | Sugar: make me a rum and coke |
| 03:01.18 | kergoth | I was actually thinking about going into bartending |
| 03:01.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:01.22 | TDT | sjborch: yeah, it does have options - but not a lot though :-/ I can keep track of grades and some class info that way, but not so much when things are due and all. |
| 03:01.44 | krezel | bottled rum coke!! |
| 03:01.47 | krezel | kick ass |
| 03:01.50 | kergoth | hah |
| 03:02.02 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a mudslide |
| 03:02.14 | JasonNJ | sugar: make me a toasted almond |
| 03:02.20 | chouimat|tv | http://users.chello.be/cr48648/myObjectiveTcl-0.1/index.html |
| 03:02.21 | kergoth | all ingredients? |
| 03:02.22 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:02.32 | TDT | kergoth: I have a bug to report in open zaurus. Fast loading opie-write crashes everything and drops back to the prompt |
| 03:02.32 | kergoth | Freeing init memory: 96K |
| 03:02.33 | kergoth | INIT: version 2.84 booting |
| 03:02.33 | kergoth | INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 |
| 03:02.37 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:02.46 | kergoth | TDT: http://opie.info/bugs/ |
| 03:02.56 | kergoth | damnit |
| 03:03.00 | kergoth | it wont run my fucking rcS scripts |
| 03:03.02 | kergoth | wtf |
| 03:05.50 | kergoth | damnit |
| 03:05.53 | kergoth | this happened to me once |
| 03:05.59 | kergoth | but i dont fucking remember what the problem was |
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| 03:07.00 | gaurdian | is there a chess game out for the Z ? |
| 03:07.02 | chatuser | Does anyone know if someone is working of the 2.4.19 kernel for the zaurus? |
| 03:07.26 | kergoth | chatuser: I am. its nearly complete. |
| 03:07.41 | chatuser | kergoth: where is the source you are using? |
| 03:07.53 | chatuser | is it in cvs? |
| 03:09.02 | kergoth | chatuser: bitkeeper repository |
| 03:09.07 | kergoth | chatuser: http://linux-cl.bkbits.net/ |
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| 03:40.39 | TDT | hmm...screenshot applet isn't showing up in the task bar, does anyone know the command line for the program? maybeI can add it manually |
| 03:44.26 | kergoth | its an applet, not a program |
| 03:44.33 | kergoth | there is nothing to run, its a shared library |
| 03:46.02 | TDT | kergoth: hmm...odd it doesn't show up in my applet list - I downloaded another version, I'll see if that works. |
| 03:47.50 | TDT | The screen resolution on a zaurus is 240w X 320h correct? and backgrounds can be in JPEG format right? (trying to set a BG) |
| 03:48.04 | kergoth | yeah, jpeg or png |
| 03:48.24 | TDT | ok, cool. |
| 03:54.34 | TDT | that's cool that perl can go on the zaurus too |
| 03:54.45 | kergoth | python too :) |
| 03:55.00 | TDT | yeah, saw python's package too - but I never delt with python much lol. |
| 03:55.10 | TDT | I'm still learning perl, it's a pretty good language. |
| 03:55.39 | TDT | Is there an progrm that can change the size of the icons? to make them smaller? or remove them totally and use the menu? |
| 03:55.55 | TDT | doubt many people want all the icons gone lol |
| 03:57.17 | TDT | dang perl is a huge package |
| 03:57.25 | TDT | I'm gonna fill up my SD card pretty soon lol |
| 03:57.52 | gaurdian | how big is perl, and is expect avaliable ? |
| 03:58.04 | kergoth | if its not, you could build it easily |
| 03:58.23 | TDT | it's 10 megs from what I downloaded |
| 03:58.34 | kergoth | perl isnt ten megs.. |
| 03:58.38 | TDT | or around that - closed the window already |
| 03:58.44 | kergoth | unless thats all modules or something |
| 03:58.51 | TDT | dunno, i'll check the full size in a sec |
| 03:59.03 | TDT | maybe in a few secs :P it's still installing |
| 03:59.36 | TDT | dang I have a feeling it'll be broken |
| 03:59.45 | TDT | I'm getting tons of "failed to link" errors |
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| 03:59.58 | TDT | oGMo: welcome back |
| 04:00.16 | oGMo | TDT. |
| 04:00.27 | kergoth | yo oGMo |
| 04:01.42 | oGMo | kergoth. |
| 04:04.47 | oGMo | hrm, i need a soundcard that's not crap when recording and playing back at the same time |
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| 04:08.13 | TDT | any good programs that can eliminate icons, change text color options, resize them, etc? |
| 04:08.32 | kergoth | hey mandrake |
| 04:09.52 | TDT | screenshot applet still didn't install right either...wow i"m surprised that little applet is being such a pain in the butt. |
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| 04:41.03 | weez | hey |
| 04:48.18 | TDT | Does anyone have problems with displaying images through a konqueror web browser? |
| 05:01.41 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 05:36.17 | TDT | ok, I almost give up...I can't get that snapshot applet to work if my life depended on it..if anyone is still awake, does anyone have any ideas? |
| 05:38.10 | ljp | where did you get the screenshotapplet package? |
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| 05:38.34 | mewyn | ibot slashdot |
| 05:38.35 | TDT | ljp: using the package update within openzaurus |
| 05:38.57 | ljp | oh, in oz.. |
| 05:39.04 | TDT | ljp: I've uninstalled and reinstalled it at least 5 times. |
| 05:39.14 | TDT | ljp: it used to work...a while ago |
| 05:39.20 | ljp | go to launcher settings.. and selecdt screenshotapplet |
| 05:39.37 | TDT | ljp: it's not even listed... |
| 05:40.22 | ljp | can you confirm that the files are in /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins |
| 05:41.48 | TDT | ljp: yeah, it's linked to my CF Card |
| 05:42.12 | TDT | err |
| 05:42.18 | TDT | actually SD Card, sorry. |
| 05:42.38 | gaurdian | ljp , that app works great..thanks |
| 05:42.46 | ljp | :) |
| 05:42.56 | gaurdian | I like my green font and black background |
| 05:43.08 | ljp | like old times |
| 05:43.20 | gaurdian | well, easier on eyes for me :) |
| 05:43.25 | gaurdian | but yea old times also |
| 05:44.29 | TDT | good night ljp |
| 05:46.11 | TDT | man..i swear this little applet thing is sucking to get working. |
| 05:46.47 | TDT | maybe it doesn't work on the SD card, maybe I need to install it on the ROM (which I have very little space to deal with) |
| 05:47.33 | gaurdian | when I used OZ I used the 48-16 kernel |
| 05:47.37 | gaurdian | not the 64-0 |
| 05:47.48 | gaurdian | I wanted to have room just in case |
| 05:47.59 | TDT | yeah, I probably should have done the same |
| 05:48.10 | TDT | 64 megs is almost unnecessary for me |
| 05:48.51 | gaurdian | I wont use all that I know |
| 05:50.29 | TDT | I don't think the applet takes up too much space...maybe I can get it to work by installing in ROM...so far everything else works fine. |
| 05:50.53 | TDT | I do enjoy running everything off SD though, it's more safe there than on the main memory just incase something goes boom :P |
| 05:51.16 | TDT | I wish SD was faster though |
| 05:51.28 | TDT | I have a feeling I'll also run into battery problems later. |
| 05:53.20 | gaurdian | not really SD takes very little power |
| 05:54.03 | TDT | gaurdian: that's good to hear...when I'm at college, trying to take notes or record a lecture on this thing - I don't want to run into battery issues lol. |
| 05:54.15 | TDT | gaurdian: how much energy does a CF card take in comparison? |
| 05:54.32 | gaurdian | well, not to say you wont run into power issues...get a extra batt and charger.... |
| 05:54.44 | gaurdian | barely a little more than a SD |
| 05:55.25 | gaurdian | and never tried recording...so no idea there |
| 05:56.12 | TDT | yeah, usually I can record an hours conversation easily. |
| 05:56.17 | TDT | and do it every other day |
| 05:56.25 | TDT | speaking of which, I need a recording program for OZ yet. |
| 05:56.40 | gaurdian | cool |
| 05:56.57 | TDT | It's handy :) |
| 05:57.10 | TDT | I come home, then convert them to MP3, and use them to study and write notes over. |
| 05:57.16 | gaurdian | I know the sharp rom has a recording program. Can you get an hr on the SD ? |
| 05:57.39 | TDT | easily, I go with the lowest settings which is well enough...I can get over 2 hours on my 128 meg stick. |
| 05:57.48 | gaurdian | I still use the sharp rom because I need a email app |
| 05:57.53 | TDT | I got a 256 meg CF card today which I'll use for the new one. |
| 05:57.57 | gaurdian | nice |
| 05:57.59 | TDT | OZ has an e-mail app |
| 05:58.07 | gaurdian | not one that works I hera |
| 05:58.10 | TDT | I just installed it, much better than the sharp one |
| 05:58.10 | gaurdian | hear |
| 05:58.17 | gaurdian | does it work ? |
| 05:58.30 | TDT | I'll try some stuff with it in a sec and get back with you - I'm pretty sure it works fine. |
| 05:58.32 | gaurdian | I herd they arent working |
| 05:59.08 | gaurdian | I am waiting for the email app from the kompany anyway really |
| 05:59.37 | TDT | w00t, got the SS applet to work now |
| 05:59.42 | gaurdian | cool |
| 05:59.54 | TDT | took me 4 hours but what the heck |
| 06:00.06 | TDT | I've been at this zaurus all day |
| 06:00.09 | treke|laptop | It's imap only but it does work |
| 06:00.19 | TDT | and I still have homework to do, and it's midnight |
| 06:00.22 | gaurdian | I need pop also |
| 06:00.58 | TDT | I would like to get that handcom progam working sometime |
| 06:01.07 | TDT | I use that a lot to take my notes in class. |
| 06:01.18 | TDT | (when i'm not recording the instructor lol) |
| 06:01.29 | gaurdian | what you use for a mic / |
| 06:01.37 | TDT | lol homemade mic |
| 06:01.41 | gaurdian | heh |
| 06:01.45 | TDT | well, heavily modified one actually |
| 06:02.17 | gaurdian | what format it save in ? |
| 06:02.58 | TDT | I took a regualar computer mic, cut off the hard parts, and cut it in two parts (3 slices, took out the middle part). Got it to a length I liked, then stripped all the wires and linked hem together, then wrap them in electrical tape, then bend them into a shape that's easy with the zaurus, then tape it that way. |
| 06:03.09 | TDT | I'll take a pic sometime, it's kinda hard to explain, but it works well |
| 06:03.36 | TDT | On the zaurus, I save in WAVE format, then I mount a network drive and home and move the file over where I can convert it there. I then convert it to MP3. |
| 06:03.49 | gaurdian | cool |
| 06:03.50 | TDT | Cuts the space down by about 1/2. 10 megs or so for a 40 minute lecture. |
| 06:04.03 | TDT | 12 or so for a full lecture (50 minutes about) |
| 06:04.21 | oGMo | heh |
| 06:04.47 | oGMo | too bad you can't record on the Z, piping it wirelessly to a remote box which encodes in realtime, piping it back for storage on the Z ;) |
| 06:05.02 | TDT | lol |
| 06:05.05 | oGMo | also too bad the z has no dsp ;( |
| 06:05.15 | TDT | I could get it to link it up to a server and save the file there in real time. |
| 06:05.23 | oGMo | that'd be cool |
| 06:05.28 | TDT | I also heard of some mp3 auto converting on the zaurus somewhere..but I can't remember where. |
| 06:05.29 | oGMo | prolly drain battery though |
| 06:05.36 | gaurdian | Hows the sound quality on a recording ? |
| 06:05.37 | TDT | Yeah, it would lol |
| 06:05.55 | TDT | the sound quality is actually pretty good. it's not the best by any means, but it's very good. |
| 06:06.01 | gaurdian | cool |
| 06:06.09 | TDT | I can hear what the teacher says, and can follow along fairly well. |
| 06:06.19 | gaurdian | thats what counts for you |
| 06:06.27 | TDT | it's math class, so it's not as helpful as a visual presentation, but it's pretty nice lol. |
| 06:06.34 | gaurdian | heh |
| 06:08.05 | TDT | just checked my e-mail application on my zaurus |
| 06:08.17 | TDT | I have pop and IMAP |
| 06:08.19 | TDT | both work fine |
| 06:08.23 | gaurdian | hmm |
| 06:08.31 | TDT | just tested both :P |
| 06:08.53 | TDT | man college sends me so much crap |
| 06:09.05 | TDT | I don't use the e-mail application with the zaurus, I got it at the zaurus software site. |
| 06:09.25 | TDT | QtMail is what I'm using. |
| 06:09.40 | gaurdian | hmm |
| 06:10.06 | gaurdian | I will look into that |
| 06:10.23 | TDT | :) |
| 06:11.41 | gaurdian | qtmail looks EXACTLY like the sharp one |
| 06:13.37 | TDT | yeah, I know it |
| 06:13.37 | TDT | I thought maybe it's the same |
| 06:15.04 | gaurdian | looks the same |
| 06:15.26 | gaurdian | any functional difference ? |
| 06:16.15 | TDT | not really |
| 06:16.22 | TDT | works about the same...seems faster though |
| 06:16.41 | TDT | probably the fastest thing I have on my zaurus. |
| 06:16.42 | gaurdian | hmmm |
| 06:17.49 | TDT | What's the keyboard shortcut for insert? |
| 06:18.02 | gaurdian | no idea |
| 06:20.33 | TDT | dang, I can't use vi until I know lol |
| 06:20.38 | TDT | maybe I can ssh in and edit it from here |
| 06:21.43 | TDT | hehe |
| 06:21.59 | TDT | much better editing through SSH |
| 06:43.33 | TDT | ok...lol, I was kinda dumb for something - but I set an /etc/fstab mount wrong, and now it's hanging on bootup. How long is the timeout before it will just keep on going? |
| 06:45.32 | TDT | brb |
| 06:58.07 | TDT | Anyone know how to unfreeze a zaurus? lol |
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| 07:17.10 | ripper | hi |
| 07:17.29 | ripper | anyone around? im considering buying a zaurus, and would appreciate someone to talk to |
| 07:18.05 | TDT | ripper: only me around |
| 07:18.22 | TDT | ripper: burning the midnight oils trying to get stuff done :) what do you need? |
| 07:18.46 | ripper | hi TDT |
| 07:19.00 | ripper | well, i was just interested in how it compares to ipaqs |
| 07:19.08 | ripper | in regards to running linux on it |
| 07:19.39 | TDT | ripper: dunno much about the ipaq, but doesn't the ipaq run windows ce? |
| 07:21.06 | SirPsycho-home | you can run familar on an ipaq |
| 07:21.46 | TDT | as I said, i'm not familiar with the ipaq lol |
| 07:22.34 | ripper | what is familaiar? |
| 07:23.21 | ripper | familiar |
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| 07:26.41 | SirPsycho-home | http://familiar.handhelds.org/ |
| 07:31.09 | dish | Are there any tips about building recent qt/e snapshots for development? I get errors no matter what configuration I try, mostly linker errors. |
| 07:31.27 | sig | sup sup |
| 07:31.34 | sig | SirPsycho-home: I hate your long ass name |
| 07:31.41 | sig | messes up my chat window... :( |
| 07:31.45 | sig | heh |
| 07:31.45 | dish | could it be a problem with gcc 3.2 and/or having newer qt libs on my system (3.0.x) |
| 07:33.47 | dish | should I just use the old SDK packages or is there any advantage to getting 2.3.4 and opie to work for development? |
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| 07:40.49 | ripper | nanook wont compile |
| 07:42.48 | ripper | j/k |
| 07:46.01 | ripper | hey |
| 07:46.13 | ripper | i have heard that zaurus inbuilt aps are not so good |
| 07:46.17 | ripper | is this true? |
| 07:46.22 | ripper | sig? |
| 07:46.24 | ripper | dish? |
| 07:46.27 | sig | what |
| 07:46.45 | ripper | do you run/use zurus inbuilt apps? |
| 07:46.57 | ripper | s/zurus/zaurus |
| 07:47.02 | dish | yeah |
| 07:47.05 | sig | yeah |
| 07:47.12 | ripper | how do you find them? |
| 07:47.21 | dish | adequate |
| 07:47.32 | dish | far from perfect, but OK |
| 07:48.17 | ripper | what is missing in them? |
| 07:48.21 | dish | I don't have experience with other PDAs though, so I'm probably not a great judge |
| 07:48.30 | dish | they might be way better or way worse than other things |
| 07:48.37 | ripper | i wont be using appointment stuff so much, i will be using office stuff a lot |
| 07:48.44 | ripper | how is the compatibility of hancom? |
| 07:48.46 | dish | I don't use that stuff |
| 07:48.57 | dish | just the PIM stuff |
| 07:48.58 | dish | mostly |
| 07:49.12 | ripper | i plan on viewing lectures, which come as powerpoint files. so you cant comment on that? |
| 07:49.18 | dish | no idea |
| 07:49.39 | ripper | what about you sg? |
| 07:49.43 | ripper | s/sg/sig |
| 07:49.56 | sig | ripper: what do youwant |
| 07:50.12 | sig | no I have no idea |
| 07:50.14 | ripper | sig: your experiences using office stuff on zaurus |
| 07:50.16 | ripper | oh |
| 07:50.18 | ripper | k |
| 07:50.53 | dish | guess all the developers are asleep |
| 07:50.57 | dish | which sounds like a good idea |
| 07:51.02 | dish | nite |
| 07:51.05 | ripper | nite |
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| 11:32.46 | Axel | hi all |
| 12:40.38 | TDT | well that's a new issue for me...I had the system running last night, and had the battery power down to 76%, turned it off and went to sleep. Woke up, turned it back on and I'm getting an error saying battery poewr is about dead lol |
| 12:42.09 | warmi | TDT: man you got to sleep some time |
| 12:42.20 | warmi | seems like you been on line since 24 hours ago |
| 12:42.21 | warmi | heh |
| 12:42.41 | TDT | warmi: lol, I almost have been. |
| 12:42.55 | TDT | warmi: not really wanting to, trying to get problems pinged out though |
| 12:43.06 | warmi | yeah, I know what you mean |
| 12:44.21 | TDT | dang this display freezes up so often, somewhere there's a loop doing it, remove a device = slight freeze, add a device = slight freeze, plug it in and you get another slight freeze. lol |
| 12:45.18 | warmi | see ... you are talking to a wrong person - I got my 5000d like 9 months ago and I have never flashed it even once |
| 12:45.33 | warmi | I still run whatever ROM sharp supplied on that developer version |
| 12:45.34 | warmi | heh |
| 12:46.34 | TDT | warmi: lol - I have a 5500...and it's ok, don't get me wrong, but the ROM that came with it is more like it seems like programs are being shoved down a person -- too commercial in my opinion on this version. |
| 12:47.06 | warmi | and you are trying OZ / |
| 12:47.06 | warmi | ? |
| 12:47.23 | warmi | yeah, I was planning to try OZ but somehow never got around to it |
| 12:47.24 | TDT | yeah |
| 12:47.43 | warmi | I need to have 2 Z devices - I have to have one with Sharps Rom to test my software I write |
| 12:47.59 | warmi | because most people still run Sharp's ROM on their devices |
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| 14:05.26 | icefox | Good Morning |
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| 14:44.08 | Wintre | Hello icefox |
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| 14:57.39 | warmi | hi |
| 15:03.25 | cbouimat | morning |
| 15:04.40 | cbouimat | http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:07.05 | Wintre | People are crazy |
| 15:13.41 | warmi | how expensive is iPod ? |
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| 15:34.10 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 15:34.21 | prpplague | chouimat: lo |
| 15:35.51 | chouimat | prpplague: any news? |
| 15:37.16 | prpplague | chouimat: on? |
| 15:38.12 | chouimat | prpplague: any thing |
| 15:39.04 | prpplague | chouimat: not much, been tinkering with my webpals, got my tuxscreen life support board working pretty well, and the first 10 hackkits are finish and being shipped to me |
| 15:41.02 | chouimat | prpplague: question about the webpals is possible of using a 3.5" HD with an external powersupply? |
| 15:44.04 | prpplague | chouimat: ya no problem |
| 15:45.54 | chouimat | ok |
| 15:48.59 | prpplague | chouimat: just make sure the ps you us doesn't require a heavy load to operate |
| 15:49.48 | chouimat | prpplague: I was planning using the PS of a another computer that the motherboard is dead |
| 15:50.10 | prpplague | chouimat: probably not a good idea |
| 15:50.31 | prpplague | chouimat: i'd get something like an external harddrive case |
| 15:50.41 | prpplague | chouimat: you can get a cheapy for like $25 |
| 15:50.54 | chouimat | prpplague: ok. I maybe can get a 2.5" drive too |
| 15:51.32 | prpplague | chouimat: if you get a 2.5" drive, you can use a regulated 5v wall wort |
| 15:53.38 | chouimat | prpplague: the webpal can't supply the 5V for that drive? |
| 15:54.08 | prpplague | chouimat: yes it can, however, the ps for the webpal isn't that hearty |
| 15:55.48 | chouimat | prpplague: how many hackkit you plan to produce? |
| 15:56.10 | prpplague | chouimat: first production run will be 100 |
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| 15:56.53 | chouimat | prpplague: ok |
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| 15:59.30 | chouimat | prpplague: if you look at the armphetamine code in the cvs, there is a lart emulator in it |
| 16:00.13 | prpplague | chouimat: ya there has been some discussion lately about that on LAK |
| 16:01.37 | chouimat | LAK? |
| 16:02.01 | kergoth | chouimat: linux-arm-kernel |
| 16:02.02 | kergoth | morning |
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| 16:02.16 | ShiShi_ | hi |
| 16:02.24 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 16:02.35 | ShiShi_ | can someone help me ton sync my Z with my mdk pliz |
| 16:02.59 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 16:04.23 | ShiShi | i receive yesterday my Z and you want to up on it some files frome my pc , i have usb0 but i can t ping my Z |
| 16:05.15 | kergoth | ShiShi: ifconfig usb0 |
| 16:05.39 | ShiShi | i do it kergoth |
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| 16:05.54 | kergoth | .. |
| 16:05.55 | kergoth | and? |
| 16:05.56 | hardwire | doo ieeeet |
| 16:06.00 | kergoth | yo hardwire |
| 16:06.02 | hardwire | yo kergoth |
| 16:06.24 | ShiShi | and ping don t receveid on my Z |
| 16:06.26 | hardwire | you jiggy wid dat padunkadunk butt yo! |
| 16:06.43 | kergoth | ShiShi: .. ifconfig usb0 shows .. what? |
| 16:07.04 | kergoth | hardwire: I could use a 640x480 boot logo w/ pingizauru + openzaurus. hint hint. |
| 16:07.06 | kergoth | ;) |
| 16:07.47 | hardwire | kergoth: I could use a 40 of shlitz malt lika.. and like about 20 greenbacks in my pocket.. dig! |
| 16:08.38 | ShiShi | usb0 Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr 40:00:00:00:FF:09 |
| 16:08.38 | ShiShi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.38 | ShiShi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.38 | ShiShi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.38 | ShiShi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.38 | ShiShi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.40 | ShiShi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.10 | kergoth | heehh |
| 16:09.17 | ShiShi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.17 | ShiShi | PING 192.168.129.201 (192.168.129.201) from 192.168.129.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 16:09.17 | ShiShi | --- 192.168.129.201 ping statistics --- |
| 16:09.17 | ShiShi | 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% loss, time 3013ms |
| 16:09.30 | hardwire | Sheesh ShiShi! |
| 16:11.16 | ShiShi | scuse |
| 16:11.29 | ShiShi | i am lost :( |
| 16:11.44 | treke|home | ibot, lart shishi |
| 16:12.15 | kergoth | hah |
| 16:12.19 | kergoth | thats just mean |
| 16:12.30 | kergoth | ulyx: lart ibot |
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| 16:14.14 | ShiShi | but, what should i do for up some files from my pc to my Z ? |
| 16:15.12 | hardwire | use ssh :) |
| 16:16.46 | ShiShi | and cmd look like what ? |
| 16:17.37 | chouimat | ulyx: fortune house-harkonnen |
| 16:17.37 | ulyx | I fought in great wars to defend the Imperium and slew many men in the Emperor's name. I attended Landsraad functions. I toured the continents of Caladan. I managed all the tedious business matters required to run a Great House. And still the best of times were those I spent with my son. -- DUKE PAULUS ATREIDES |
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| 16:26.50 | cor | http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net << hehe, it was only a matter of time |
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| 16:27.35 | chouimat | ulyx: lart icefox |
| 16:27.40 | icefox | Lesson of the day: never run ifdown when you are xhosted your entire desktop on a remote headless machine |
| 16:27.41 | icefox | hehe |
| 16:27.54 | chouimat | ulyx: lart icefox |
| 16:29.30 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 16:29.30 | ulyx | There's more than one way to skin a cat: Way number 32 -- Wrap it around a lonely frat man's pecker. |
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| 16:33.41 | dish | if I want to develop Zaurus apps, but I don't plan to use any opie-specific features, is there still an advantage to setting up a development environment with opie and a current qt/e snapshot (2.3.4), rather than the old SDK files from Sharp and Trolltech? |
| 16:34.51 | icefox | eh I still use the old one |
| 16:37.23 | dish | ok |
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| 16:54.22 | willert | Hi there, has anyone of you tried to use an CF-WLAN card with the Zaurus, I am considering to buy one and would like to know which cards are compatible with the Z (OpenZaurus), if the range is long enough, how the battery runtime is affected aso... |
| 16:57.27 | TDT | willert: I have a wireless lan card, a D-Link I believe (i don't have it on me to check)> It's compatible with OZ (patched) also. |
| 16:58.01 | kergoth | willert: dont worry about what works with OZ, OZ supports more cards than the sharp rom |
| 16:58.17 | kergoth | willert: take a look at http://zauruszone.com/howtos/, iirc theres one on wlan cards |
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| 16:58.51 | TDT | kergoth: I found out one of my issues when dealing with the OZ and the mount search or whatever. |
| 16:59.17 | TDT | kergoth: It kept freezing my zaurus whenever I ejected my CF card, plugged in the power, or did other things. |
| 16:59.28 | TDT | kergoth: I think that "mount search" |
| 16:59.33 | kergoth | TDT: the eject hang is known, for some reason cardctl eject hangs |
| 16:59.40 | kergoth | TDT: just yank the card w/o ejecting and you'll be fine |
| 17:00.13 | TDT | kergoth: I think the eject search...I turned off the search for new media on the CF and SD card, and it works great |
| 17:00.25 | TDT | kergoth: I can unmount it very fast now..and it won't hang. |
| 17:00.46 | kergoth | ah! |
| 17:00.50 | kergoth | weird |
| 17:00.58 | kergoth | must not be the same bug as i'm thinking of |
| 17:01.03 | kergoth | you're on rc2? |
| 17:01.21 | TDT | kergoth: dunno why, but if it's on - and I insert the card it will take about 3 minutes to mount it (at least let me have access again) |
| 17:01.26 | TDT | and yeah I"m using rc2. |
| 17:02.08 | TDT | Maybe I'll reinstal that mount search package when I get home...maybe that will fix it - but right now I just keep it disabled. |
| 17:02.38 | TDT | plugged in the power earlier today and the dang thing froze for 5 minutes :P lol I went to take a shower and come back and it was done. |
| 17:04.06 | TDT | I wish I had a better wireless system here at the college..then I can use the zaurus online. |
| 17:04.26 | TDT | they have a freaky system. YOu have to have a special card, with a special program to use the network. |
| 17:05.07 | kergoth | ah, that sucks |
| 17:05.12 | kergoth | opie's documents scanning needs work |
| 17:05.22 | kergoth | it was based on qtopia's.. and needs revamping |
| 17:05.46 | TDT | yeah, I know the opie document programs load slow |
| 17:06.00 | TDT | and not very usable even after it's loaded |
| 17:08.45 | willert | Thank & Bye |
| 17:09.13 | TDT | brb |
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| 17:28.22 | Neo|Work | morning |
| 17:28.30 | mewyn | ow. my neck |
| 17:28.42 | treke | what opie document program? |
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| 17:28.53 | kergoth | treke: i think he means the documents scanning |
| 17:28.55 | kergoth | TimRiker: yo tim |
| 17:29.01 | treke | ah |
| 17:29.20 | kergoth | woot, i think i finally nailed the last kink in make -j in buildroot |
| 17:29.24 | treke | w00t |
| 17:29.36 | kergoth | which is really nice for people doing builds on smp boxen.. |
| 17:29.38 | chouimat|away | kergoth: huh? |
| 17:29.51 | kergoth | chouimat|away: make -j was broken due to wrong dependencies |
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| 17:29.59 | kergoth | chouimat|away: things were building in the wrong order |
| 17:30.57 | chouimat|away | kergoth: ok |
| 17:32.41 | chouimat | ulyx weather |
| 17:32.41 | ulyx | The weather stored for CYQB could not be parsed (CYQB 041642Z 07020G28KT 1/2SM R06/3500FT/N SN VV005 RMK SN8) |
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| 17:49.19 | ljp_work | ulyx weather KBJC |
| 17:49.20 | ulyx | 1 hours, 12 minutes ago, on Tue Feb 04 16:45:00 UTC 2003, the wind was blowing at a speed of 2.57 meters per second (5.75 miles per hour) from the West/Southwest at KBJC. The temperature was -5 degrees Celsius (23 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1014 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 67.9%. There were a few clouds at a height of 2743 meters (9000 feet), scattered clouds at a height of 4267 meter |
| 17:49.20 | ulyx | (14000 feet) and broken clouds at a height of 6096 meters (20000 feet). |
| 17:51.12 | mewyn | ulyx weather KORD |
| 17:51.13 | ulyx | 1 hours, 3 minutes ago, on Tue Feb 04 16:56:00 UTC 2003, the wind was blowing at a speed of 8.23 meters per second (18.41 miles per hour) from the West/Northwest at KORD. The temperature was -6.1 degrees Celsius (25.9 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1009 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 73.8%. There were overcast clouds at a height of 671 meters (2200 feet). Current weather is Light Snow . There |
| 17:51.14 | ulyx | was of precipitation in the last hour. |
| 17:51.40 | mewyn | damn. it got cold |
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| 20:02.04 | *** topic/#zaurus is Sharp PDA Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ || http://MyZaurus.com/ || http://openzaurus.org/ || OpenZaurus 3.1rc2 released. |
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| 20:33.29 | tyr | ? |
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| 20:45.30 | frankps | perce hogy nem |
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| 21:09.59 | Cloudchaser_ | hi |
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| 22:21.19 | Hellaenergy | anyone here know of a free eps viewer? |
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| 22:33.43 | weez | hey |
| 22:34.05 | kergoth | hey weez |
| 22:34.11 | kergoth | pretty dead around here today |
| 22:35.07 | weez | kergoth: hey kergoth |
| 22:35.37 | kergoth | my c700 OZ image finally boots |
| 22:35.41 | kergoth | took long enough |
| 22:35.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:35.42 | weez | cool |
| 22:36.37 | weez | refresh my memory.. what did you add/subtract from the base sharp rom? |
| 22:37.04 | kergoth | initially nothing was subtracted, just alterations such as adding the C ipkg, aqpkg, tinykate, and some tweaks to the filesystem structure |
| 22:37.20 | kergoth | the OZ image of course isnt based on Sharp, its a completely different animal |
| 22:37.30 | weez | ahh |
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| 22:37.45 | weez | duh, since you said OZ |
| 22:37.51 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:38.04 | weez | I thot I remember you saying yesterday you had the sharp japanese IME in there tho |
| 22:38.16 | kergoth | in my altered sharp rom i do |
| 22:38.29 | kergoth | not in the OZ one yet, though I'll make a script to grab it off the sharp rom, ala the hancom creator and friends on zsi |
| 22:38.53 | weez | when I get time to make my rom, I will need to figure out what to grab to get that |
| 22:39.07 | weez | zsi? |
| 22:40.56 | weez | zaurus software index? |
| 22:42.32 | Neo|Work | ibot zsi |
| 22:43.38 | weez | ahh |
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| 22:58.31 | weez | looks like I need to go home.. cyas and as always thanks for the info |
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| 23:40.03 | raceme | hi there |
| 23:41.13 | raceme | i'm just trying to install konqueror-snapshot-full in 3.1rc2 on my sd card: i have no icon and if i tried to launch konqueror from the file manager nothing happens ? |
| 23:41.29 | kergoth | sounds like you installed with ipkg not aqpkg |
| 23:41.38 | kergoth | ipkg-link add konqueror-snapshot-full |
| 23:42.17 | raceme | kergoth: i used aqpkg |
| 23:43.07 | raceme | but the sd card is in fat... (i should chance that i suppose). is there a connection ? (same result after ipkg-link & restart opie) |
| 23:43.10 | kergoth | then it should work flawless |
| 23:43.13 | kergoth | it has in my experience |
| 23:43.28 | kergoth | i dont recall if konq includes libs |
| 23:43.35 | kergoth | which would cause a problem if you're on vfat |
| 23:43.49 | raceme | it seems there is only a binary |
| 23:43.56 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:44.12 | kergoth | ipkg files -d sd konqueror-snapshot-full |
| 23:44.36 | raceme | kergoth: there is only a binary in the package: /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/konqueror |
| 23:44.44 | kergoth | it includes more than just a binary. |
| 23:44.49 | kergoth | try the nonfull package |
| 23:44.52 | kergoth | where did you get the packge? |
| 23:45.02 | raceme | from testing source with aqpkg |
| 23:45.06 | raceme | ok testing the non-full |
| 23:45.11 | kergoth | k |
| 23:49.09 | raceme | kergoth: ok it installs only /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/konqueror_light, no menu again. |
| 23:49.18 | kergoth | raceme: odd. |
| 23:49.25 | kergoth | raceme: try the one from unstable |
| 23:49.26 | raceme | ig i launch it from console: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Asser tion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed! |
| 23:49.38 | kergoth | weird |
| 23:49.47 | raceme | ok i try unstable |
| 23:52.11 | raceme | i have to restart opie for the icons to appear, haven't i ? |
| 23:52.18 | kergoth | if you're using aqpkg, no |
| 23:52.49 | raceme | i'm using it |
| 23:55.10 | raceme | kergoth: segmentation fault (by i have a nice icon) |
| 23:56.18 | kergoth | hah |
| 23:56.30 | kergoth | probably need to upgrade everything not just konq to fix the segfault |
| 23:56.51 | raceme | everything in unstable you mean ? |
| 23:57.05 | raceme | because testing is up to date |
| 23:57.20 | kergoth | yeah, konq is probably now depending on some change in opie that happpened recently |
| 23:57.23 | kergoth | dunno |
| 23:58.42 | raceme | ipkg: invalid compressed data--crc error |
| 23:58.53 | raceme | but it continues to install the package ?? |