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| 00:16.42 | cor | Fry's *drooooool* |
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| 00:35.29 | bhsx | anyone having problems with mp3 playback in qte? i just reinstalled qte and still can't play any mp3s |
| 00:37.29 | badalex | bhsx: im not.. |
| 00:38.23 | Neo|Work | qte? |
| 00:38.30 | Neo|Work | is that a player? |
| 00:38.36 | Neo|Work | because it's also qt embedded... |
| 00:38.39 | Neo|Work | libqte etc |
| 00:39.12 | bhsx | qte, the sharp rom |
| 00:39.30 | Neo|Work | so you mean you reflashed |
| 00:39.35 | bhsx | as opposed to openzaurus (which i just tried out) |
| 00:39.37 | bhsx | yes |
| 00:39.50 | Neo|Work | qte is embedded qt, qpe is qtopia which is the "taskbar" and the environment in general |
| 00:40.04 | Neo|Work | well, then I never tried but I haven't had audio issues in general |
| 00:40.19 | bhsx | so you can play mp3s no prob |
| 00:40.20 | bhsx | ? |
| 00:40.30 | bhsx | all of mine crash the media player |
| 00:41.40 | badalex | bhsx: yep works great for me |
| 00:41.54 | bhsx | hmm... ok, thanks |
| 00:42.02 | badalex | bhsx: bitrate? |
| 00:43.27 | cor | bhsx: i have bad skipping problems with the sharp rom and tkc player |
| 00:53.08 | badalex | cor: i never have works almost flawless for me |
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| 00:58.16 | Neo|Work | bhsx: no, I never tried as I said |
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| 01:02.37 | Hellaenergy | Good Evening |
| 01:02.40 | Hellaenergy | ;) |
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| 02:27.32 | warmi | hi |
| 02:55.38 | kergoth | re |
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| 02:58.24 | treke|home | evening kergoth |
| 02:58.49 | kergoth | yo treke, whats goin on? |
| 02:59.17 | treke|home | getting ready to try building opie with gcc 3.2 :; |
| 02:59.50 | kergoth | cool cool. works pretty well, though you need to pass a var or two |
| 03:00.00 | kergoth | let me know when you're going to do it, i can tell ya what to tweak |
| 03:00.19 | treke|home | it either that or play some ps2 :) |
| 03:01.00 | treke|home | although amazingly, opie is running just fine without modification |
| 03:01.16 | kergoth | heheh |
| 03:01.45 | treke|home | lets see what happens when I build something :) |
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| 03:02.35 | kergoth | keep in mind when building a c++ app with gcc3, either use g++ to link, or add -lstdc++ or -lsupc++ to the link line |
| 03:03.05 | treke|home | kergoth: most likely I'd just use gcc2,95 for opie :) |
| 03:05.10 | treke|home | hehe, too much wishful thinking :) |
| 03:07.16 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 04:12.51 | tux_mike | crap. just what i don't need. a friggin speeding ticket |
| 04:13.03 | Neo|Laptop | heh |
| 04:13.15 | Neo|Laptop | I know what you mean |
| 04:13.42 | tux_mike | well, at least you have a job. |
| 04:14.30 | tux_mike | i'm down to my last 20 bucks in the bank, and 15 in cash |
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| 04:20.44 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 04:27.39 | Neo|Laptop | sorry to hear that |
| 04:27.53 | tux_mike | it's ok, i'm sorry i'm ranting |
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| 04:32.11 | Neo|Laptop | well, I can see you're a tad upset, which is fine |
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| 05:05.14 | tux_mike | neo: no new games latley? |
| 05:06.37 | oob | what are the advantages/disadvantages of using a prism2.5 card over a prims 2 card with the Z ? |
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| 05:25.56 | Neo|Laptop | tux_mike: Motocross Stunt Racer is quite new |
| 05:26.05 | highpitch_home | i have a question... |
| 05:26.08 | tux_mike | hrm |
| 05:26.37 | highpitch_home | the old serial mouse usually connects to COM 1 or COM 2?? |
| 05:27.10 | highpitch_home | i'm trying to make my old p233 works to install linux.. but seems the mouse doesn't work.. |
| 05:28.31 | Neo|Laptop | I'd say com 1 but I don't know |
| 05:28.36 | oob | doesn't work in X ? |
| 05:29.09 | highpitch_home | the shit doesn't work no matter what... tried all the drivers.. |
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| 05:39.29 | tux_mike | could be the type of com port |
| 05:39.36 | tux_mike | pci have problems |
| 05:40.07 | tux_mike | or pnp |
| 05:42.21 | oob | /etc/X11/XF86Config what does this file say about your mouse |
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| 06:44.46 | Com[Plex] | sup guys |
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| 08:54.14 | [DrEvil] | I must have this demo DVD |
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| 14:33.22 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:30.03 | Hellaenergy | Good Morning |
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| 16:06.05 | icefox | Morning |
| 16:06.28 | mandrake | hello |
| 16:06.37 | mandrake | icefox: I saw you were talking about my bed yesterday |
| 16:07.19 | icefox | oh yah! |
| 16:07.20 | icefox | :-D |
| 16:07.25 | icefox | I have one like it too |
| 16:07.52 | icefox | http://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/whoisben/gallery/photo.php?gallery=2002/Dumont%20House/postWedding/&file=07250036.JPG |
| 16:08.24 | icefox | How far are you away from Sharp? |
| 16:12.36 | icefox | Can I get some feedback on this article I wrote about optimizing Qt/KDE apps: http://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/articles/optimize.php |
| 16:13.00 | icefox | topics I forgot, comments I should add/change etc |
| 16:13.14 | chouimat | icefox: maybe |
| 16:21.40 | Hellaenergy | morning kergoth |
| 16:24.55 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:26.32 | hardwire | howdy howdy howdyt |
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| 16:46.06 | icefox | http://www.eventhelix.com/RealtimeMantra/Basics/OptimizingCAndCPPCode.htm |
| 16:46.09 | icefox | fun little article on optimizing |
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| 16:55.23 | warmi | hi\ |
| 16:55.27 | tux_mike | hey warmi |
| 16:56.43 | warmi | I don't wanna be mean or anything but maybe he is deaf ? |
| 16:56.49 | Hellaenergy | ibot: who is your keeper |
| 16:56.50 | | I think you lost me on that one, Hellaenergy |
| 16:57.03 | warmi | ibot who is your master |
| 16:57.04 | | ibot's master is, like, fun |
| 16:57.04 | Hellaenergy | ibot: who programmed you? |
| 16:57.04 | | Hellaenergy: I give up, what is it? |
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| 16:57.26 | Hellaenergy | ibot: who is your creator |
| 16:57.27 | | [ibot's creator] a mangy junkyard dog |
| 16:57.33 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 16:58.44 | Hellaenergy | who know where I can get a good bot? |
| 16:58.50 | tux_mike | ugh. i have a headache |
| 16:59.04 | tux_mike | good bots are hard to find |
| 16:59.22 | Hellaenergy | That s head ache |
| 17:00.23 | ljp_work | radio shack has bots |
| 17:01.24 | tux_mike | not good bots |
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| 17:07.27 | tux_mike | woo. hdtv tivos |
| 17:08.15 | treke | sweet |
| 17:08.35 | treke | now I just need a couple grand to spare for speakers, an hdtv, and a tivo :) |
| 17:09.28 | tux_mike | this does put a kink into my setup, though |
| 17:10.38 | icefox | http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article1139.asp |
| 17:10.43 | icefox | nice article & |
| 17:15.06 | icefox | i = i << 8 + i << 4 |
| 17:15.08 | icefox | hehe |
| 17:15.12 | icefox | never thought of doing _that_ before |
| 17:15.46 | tux_mike | what's it for |
| 17:15.50 | tux_mike | brain no work right now |
| 17:16.06 | icefox | it is the same as i *= 272 |
| 17:16.17 | icefox | except a ton faster |
| 17:16.29 | tux_mike | hrm |
| 17:16.33 | tux_mike | how interesting |
| 17:16.47 | icefox | It had never occurred to me to use << for anything other then power of 2 operatiions |
| 17:17.02 | icefox | thus I really didn't use it all that much, but now.... |
| 17:18.56 | warmi | icefox: multiplying is basically adding in a loop :-) |
| 17:19.12 | warmi | if you think of it that way - you can come up with all kinds of optimizations at binary level |
| 17:21.42 | tux_mike | warmi: even the latest intel cpus? |
| 17:22.33 | chouimat | hi warmi |
| 17:22.44 | warmi | tux: uh ... what do you mean ? |
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| 17:23.12 | warmi | I was talking more about basic mathematical concept :-) |
| 17:23.20 | tux_mike | ah |
| 17:23.26 | tux_mike | i thought you were talking cpu-specific |
| 17:24.04 | warmi | yeah, that does aply to CPU specific stuff since shifting will always be faster than multiplying |
| 17:25.01 | warmi | this is the same idea like :a*b + a*c = a*(b+c); ( as presented in this article) |
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| 17:25.33 | warmi | if you take advantage of some basic algebra rules you can often speed up your code a lot |
| 17:25.42 | icefox | :-D |
| 17:25.51 | icefox | yah for seventh grade |
| 17:26.02 | chouimat | anyone know a good book or article on optimization? |
| 17:26.07 | warmi | I would say for a 5th grade |
| 17:26.11 | icefox | http://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/articles/optimize.php |
| 17:26.14 | icefox | chouimat: ^ |
| 17:26.20 | icefox | check out the article I just wrote |
| 17:26.25 | icefox | it has links to books etc |
| 17:26.35 | chouimat | icefox: can you send me a pdf :) |
| 17:26.36 | icefox | and give me some feeback on the article |
| 17:27.16 | warmi | icefox: are you KDE user/developer/fan ? |
| 17:27.42 | icefox | yah |
| 17:27.46 | icefox | kaudiocreator |
| 17:27.48 | icefox | kinkattaa |
| 17:27.52 | icefox | sondra |
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| 17:27.56 | icefox | etc |
| 17:28.06 | icefox | user bmeyer in kde cvs |
| 17:28.18 | warmi | icefox: uh .. you fooled me man .. |
| 17:28.25 | icefox | ? |
| 17:28.25 | warmi | I just realized you are benmeyer ... |
| 17:28.27 | warmi | hehe |
| 17:28.28 | icefox | haha |
| 17:28.34 | treke | hmmm. the handspring expansion cards are rather large |
| 17:28.40 | icefox | yah I decided that I am going to go back to using my old handle |
| 17:28.41 | ljp_work | he's hiding from his boss |
| 17:32.06 | icefox | ibot icefox |
| 17:32.07 | | icefox: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 17:32.21 | warmi_away | uh .. ibot is getting smarter .. |
| 17:32.35 | tux_mike | ibot moo |
| 17:32.36 | | from memory, moo is the way the world works. |
| 17:32.54 | icefox | ibot icefox is a kde/qte developer who works for Sharp and does developer support for the Zaurus |
| 17:32.55 | | icefox: okay |
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| 17:44.51 | kergoth | icefox: "such as the algorithms and data structures and decided." .. typo. s/and decided/are decided/ |
| 17:46.47 | icefox | Thanks |
| 17:46.49 | icefox | fixed |
| 17:47.10 | kergoth | np |
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| 17:51.36 | icefox | why is that? |
| 17:52.01 | SillyZ | mmm dunno... just kinda impartial atm |
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| 18:51.08 | icefox | http://gee.cs.oswego.edu/dl/oosdw3/ch25.html |
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| 19:41.35 | icefox | Even if you ripped DVD's into VOB's ... you'd still need to rip over 100 to justify even 1 TB, and who the hell rips to just vob, that's like ripping to wav with a CD, you just don't do it. |
| 19:41.38 | icefox | Seen on /. ^ |
| 19:41.46 | icefox | I guess I am odd |
| 19:43.04 | kolla | you odnt rip vobs, you copy them :) |
| 19:43.07 | kolla | dont |
| 19:43.45 | chouimat | icefox: huh? |
| 19:44.52 | icefox | After doing dvd development for 6 months I can't stand anything less then mpeg2 |
| 19:45.02 | icefox | for long term storage viewing |
| 19:45.54 | icefox | I mean I can *see* all of the artifacts in mpeg2 so downgrading it to divx is my opinoin doesn't cut it, but to each his own |
| 19:45.55 | warmi_away | floppies .. |
| 19:46.28 | warmi_away | long term storage for me = floppy disks |
| 19:46.36 | icefox | for example 2 minutes and 11 seconds into chapter 11 of Toy Story 2 there is a small artifact |
| 19:46.37 | warmi_away | still have like 100s of them |
| 19:46.43 | icefox | above buzz's head |
| 19:46.47 | icefox | hehe |
| 19:47.11 | icefox | spent a good week trying to figure out what was the problem before I found out that it was an authoring bug |
| 19:47.39 | warmi_away | well, I am sure they asumed that nobody would ever notice that anyway |
| 19:48.12 | icefox | ok that was a bad example, but generally I pick up on the artifacts of the encoding that others don't simmply because i have spent so much time looking for it |
| 19:48.36 | icefox | in such things as sunsets, fast pans, explosions, etc |
| 19:49.00 | warmi_away | yeah, but if normally you can't notice them - then they are not there : -) |
| 19:49.05 | warmi_away | at least as far as viewer is concerned |
| 19:49.07 | warmi_away | hehe |
| 19:49.12 | icefox | what does ->enum { GetValue = 1 }; do? |
| 19:49.31 | warmi_away | it is used like old #define GetValue 1 |
| 19:49.32 | icefox | in a class |
| 19:49.49 | warmi_away | basically, some peopel don't like using #define in C++ anymore |
| 19:49.55 | icefox | so I could do int a = class::GetValue; |
| 19:50.02 | warmi_away | and one way to duplicate that functionality is do enum |
| 19:50.06 | warmi_away | yeah |
| 19:50.12 | warmi_away | Qt does that all the time |
| 19:50.12 | icefox | well you don't get compiler checking with #defines |
| 19:50.23 | icefox | cool, never new that |
| 19:50.26 | icefox | learn somthing every day |
| 19:50.38 | icefox | thus: enum { GetValue = N * Factorial<N - 1>::GetValue }; |
| 19:50.50 | icefox | makes so much more sense :_D |
| 19:53.14 | warmi_away | what are you coding ? |
| 19:53.17 | chouimat | http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=moron&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kdevelop.org |
| 19:53.23 | icefox | learning about template optimizations |
| 19:53.58 | warmi_away | optimizations as in memory footprint or execution speed ? |
| 19:54.12 | icefox | http://www.tantalon.com/pete/cppopt/final.htm#TemplateMetaprogramming |
| 19:54.17 | icefox | hmm probably both |
| 19:54.26 | icefox | pretty cool, I had never heard of it before today |
| 19:55.17 | warmi_away | oh metaprogramming .. |
| 19:55.27 | warmi_away | yeah, I have seen some people go nuts over it |
| 19:55.59 | tux_mike | i really hope this data structures class is worthwhile |
| 19:58.02 | icefox | warmi_away: ever done anything with it yourself? |
| 19:58.34 | warmi_away | data structures are always worthwile - without knowing this stuff you will have a hell of a time trying to code more involved stuff |
| 19:59.00 | tux_mike | well, it's using STL. |
| 19:59.15 | warmi_away | for my port of Puzz-le to PPC I used a library that claimed to use optimized blitters using template metaprogramming |
| 19:59.32 | tux_mike | and it's 5 hours every friday |
| 19:59.54 | warmi_away | they guy who wrote it claims that , after looking at the generated assembly , he could confirm that it was working well for him |
| 20:00.24 | icefox | hmm interesting |
| 20:00.32 | icefox | well the benchmarks are certently nice |
| 20:00.45 | warmi_away | tux_mike: STL or no STL trying to code something without a nice container library is a pain in the ass |
| 20:00.53 | warmi_away | this is btw one of the reasons why KDE is so ahead |
| 20:01.10 | warmi_away | qt offers very nice set of comtainers and alghoritms for accesing them |
| 20:01.36 | icefox | yup |
| 20:01.56 | icefox | http://simcity.ea.com/videos/videos1.html |
| 20:01.59 | icefox | woh |
| 20:02.05 | icefox | hehe |
| 20:02.09 | warmi_away | icefox: in case of this library , he ended up with 24 different versions of the same blitter ( with different pixel shaders) |
| 20:02.23 | warmi_away | using this template meta approach he just wrote code once and templatized it |
| 20:02.35 | icefox | hmm a little wastfull especially for a small device |
| 20:03.03 | icefox | ether way I am highly intreaged |
| 20:03.12 | icefox | and wouldn't mind getting a book on it |
| 20:04.41 | tux_mike | gah. gotta go. |
| 20:04.58 | tux_mike | too many things to do before class |
| 20:05.02 | warmi_away | tux_mike: heeh |
| 20:05.27 | warmi_away | tux_mike: I am surprised they don't teach these classes using Java |
| 20:05.28 | tux_mike | i've got class at 5, but there's a whole shitload of stuff i need to do beforehand |
| 20:05.33 | warmi_away | these days everybody does |
| 20:06.23 | tux_mike | i'm glad they don't |
| 20:06.28 | icefox | who doesn't? |
| 20:06.30 | tux_mike | i don't care to know much java |
| 20:06.53 | icefox | At RIT all of the intro CS classes are in Java |
| 20:06.56 | icefox | now |
| 20:07.01 | icefox | used to be eiffel |
| 20:07.06 | icefox | hehe |
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| 20:23.33 | chouimat | icefox: lucky you |
| 20:24.13 | SillyZ | q: anyone mind if I post a shameless advertisement for a list of stuff Im trying to sell / get rid of / trade for other gear ??? |
| 20:24.41 | Twiun | to the mlist? |
| 20:24.43 | Twiun | or here? |
| 20:24.52 | SillyZ | just a url in here |
| 20:25.00 | Twiun | I'm cool with that |
| 20:25.05 | SillyZ | to a text file that contains the list |
| 20:25.11 | SillyZ | rather good stuff on there imho |
| 20:25.16 | SillyZ | thanks twiun |
| 20:25.34 | SillyZ | http://mandrake.kicks-ass.net/downloads/garagesale.txt |
| 20:25.51 | Twiun | talking of nice stuff... anyone got their hands on the logitec mx700 cordless mouse yet? |
| 20:25.54 | SillyZ | Ill take the keelhauling-from-aircraftcarrier for 1000.00 please alex |
| 20:26.43 | SillyZ | logitech mx700 .... nope not here |
| 20:26.53 | Twiun | SillyZ: what country are you in? |
| 20:27.11 | SillyZ | USA, Midwest, Nebraska to be specific |
| 20:27.42 | Twiun | oh well :) |
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| 20:28.05 | Twiun | 6k+ miles too far for me methinks.. |
| 20:28.58 | SillyZ | hmmm shipping on 6k miles ? |
| 20:29.06 | SillyZ | where ya be Twiun? |
| 20:33.49 | Twiun | I be in the far off the (dis)united kingdom |
| 20:34.07 | Twiun | erm... that isn't proper english, oh well |
| 20:37.08 | Twiun | oh dear... I'm not even going to get involved in the chat in #oz |
| 20:38.22 | icefox | SillyZ: you are in Nebraska? |
| 20:38.26 | icefox | where? |
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| 20:38.50 | SillyZ | Lincoln |
| 20:38.56 | SillyZ | icefox you? |
| 20:38.59 | icefox | How do you like Nebraska? |
| 20:39.07 | icefox | I got a job offer there, but ended up going with Sharp |
| 20:39.12 | icefox | living in NJ |
| 20:39.16 | SillyZ | we are the industry standard for flat and level thats for damn sure |
| 20:39.30 | icefox | former BostonMA, RochesterNY, SanJoseCA, LandsingMI |
| 20:39.37 | SillyZ | ah |
| 20:39.39 | SillyZ | brb 2 sec |
| 20:58.11 | Twiun | urgh. not having vectors in gimp isn't making things any easier |
| 21:03.34 | Hellaenergy | svg baby |
| 21:03.37 | Hellaenergy | :) |
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| 21:05.04 | Twiun | yah - or let my designer do the logo designs instead of me giving *him* the ideas :) |
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| 21:23.53 | SuKoShi | tabernaque |
| 21:24.00 | SuKoShi | un quebecois ici |
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| 21:25.59 | Cloudchaser | happy friday! |
| 21:26.04 | SuKoShi | :) |
| 21:26.16 | ljp_work | is it happy? |
| 21:26.33 | Cloudchaser | hehe well why not ;) |
| 21:27.07 | ljp_work | cause Fridays have no emotions |
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| 21:27.41 | Cloudchaser | oh bleh |
| 21:27.50 | icefox | haha run xmms from the command line |
| 21:27.54 | icefox | Will crash? |
| 21:27.55 | icefox | not here |
| 21:28.00 | icefox | ^ from stdout |
| 21:31.18 | kergoth | hey Cloudchaser |
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| 21:41.23 | Cloudchaser | hi kergoth |
| 21:42.37 | SuKoShi | hi everyobody |
| 21:43.36 | mnemonic` | hi... |
| 21:45.35 | kergoth | must...get..out..of...tech...support..or..will.kill..something |
| 21:45.48 | SuKoShi | or someone? |
| 21:46.08 | ljp_work | monster.com |
| 21:46.12 | kergoth | yeah, morelikely someone |
| 21:46.18 | kergoth | or someones |
| 21:46.36 | SuKoShi | 01,99somebodies01,99 |
| 21:46.47 | ljp_work | I have a friend in Mn that manages a Harley shop |
| 21:46.47 | scanline | and then they throw you into the minimum-security white collar resort, right? |
| 21:47.07 | kergoth | scanline: with conjugal visits, no doubt! |
| 21:47.34 | scanline | sounds like a great way to get out of tech support :) |
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| 21:51.08 | ljp_work | ~lart c++ |
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| 21:58.14 | kergoth | ljp_work: what harley shop? |
| 21:58.59 | ljp_work | hmmm.. not sure, I'll ask him |
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| 23:20.16 | Com[Plex] | hey guys, how do you find the kernel version in linux? |
| 23:20.29 | Com[Plex] | yuo now, like the "ver" command in dos |
| 23:20.34 | hardwire | cat /proc/version |
| 23:20.37 | hardwire | uname -a |
| 23:23.30 | kergoth | anyone here know japanese? |
| 23:23.45 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:23.50 | Com[Plex] | I know a little kergoth |
| 23:24.16 | Com[Plex] | an then theres babelfish :> |
| 23:24.37 | Com[Plex] | atually, in comparison to babelfish, I dont know shit |
| 23:24.53 | kergoth | babelfish cant translate a scanned document |
| 23:24.58 | Com[Plex] | all I really know is how to tell the difference between chinese, japanese and korean writing. |
| 23:25.00 | kergoth | unless you know of a japanese OCR app? ;) |
| 23:25.05 | Com[Plex] | nope. |
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| 23:32.25 | Com[Plex] | hey kergoth, whos working on fbvncserver? |
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| 23:32.54 | Com[Plex] | I was wondering if they coudl turn the web server for it back on, so I can connect to it from a web browserr like IE again |
| 23:36.55 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: ? last i checked it was still there |
| 23:37.01 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: what fbvncserv package? from where? |
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| 23:38.51 | Com[Plex] | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/official/unstable/feed/fbvncserver_0.3-2d_arm.ipk |
| 23:38.59 | Com[Plex] | 0.3-2d |
| 23:39.12 | Com[Plex] | I cant connect from a web browser. |
| 23:39.31 | kergoth | probably just a bug in the package |
| 23:39.38 | kergoth | in fact, i think i recall someone mentioning it on the MLs |
| 23:39.49 | kergoth | i'll look into it |
| 23:40.10 | Com[Plex] | hmm |
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| 23:47.55 | Com[Plex] | at least the vnc server with panel works now. it didnt for a while. |
