| 00:00.16 | AndyBurton | i dont know Cloudchaser. Ive not had one to look at yet |
| 00:01.08 | Cloudchaser | looks like they combined OpenZaurus/Opie and Qtopia into one forum |
| 00:01.15 | Cloudchaser | thats going to be fun |
| 00:02.41 | kergoth | AndyBurton: really? hah |
| 00:03.52 | AndyBurton | kergoth it looks like people are getting them early from Japan only to find they are useless |
| 00:04.16 | kergoth | AndyBurton: if sharp would get me the kernel sources, OZ would work on it in whatever language you like :) |
| 00:05.12 | ljp_work | even Klingon? |
| 00:05.13 | AndyBurton | has Sharp Roxy given the source out yet? |
| 00:05.28 | kergoth | AndyBurton: Roxy? |
| 00:05.43 | AndyBurton | www.sharp.co.jp |
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| 00:34.59 | troffasky | can anybody tell me what size the dc power connector on the zaurus is? |
| 00:35.18 | troffasky | it seems like 2.5mm but the center pin is too large |
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| 00:57.14 | br33zy | flashin |
| 01:00.48 | ZzzTiger | is there sumfin like defragmentation tool for ext2 fs? seems like my sd card is messy... t takes hours to install anything! |
| 01:01.19 | ljp | fsck.ext2 or something |
| 01:01.42 | ljp | you have to umount the card first |
| 01:02.19 | ZzzTiger | fsck sumfin... |
| 01:04.31 | br33zy | 3.1rc1 is boooting... |
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| 01:10.51 | Xeon | whats zaurus? |
| 01:11.03 | br33zy | lol |
| 01:11.08 | br33zy | its a pda |
| 01:11.13 | Xeon | ...oh |
| 01:11.14 | br33zy | or it could be a handheld pc.. |
| 01:11.19 | br33zy | it runs linux too |
| 01:11.20 | br33zy | :) |
| 01:11.25 | Xeon | how fast is the processor? |
| 01:11.29 | br33zy | 206Mhz |
| 01:11.30 | wyvern | fsck does not defragment anything. |
| 01:11.32 | br33zy | StrongArm |
| 01:11.34 | wyvern | It only checks consistency. |
| 01:11.37 | br33zy | Sa1110 i think |
| 01:11.42 | wyvern | and for badians |
| 01:11.50 | Xeon | 206Mhz!?!?!?!?! |
| 01:11.57 | br33zy | uh huh |
| 01:12.01 | br33zy | just like the samsung yopy |
| 01:12.03 | br33zy | compaq ipaq.. |
| 01:12.04 | br33zy | etc.. |
| 01:12.07 | wyvern | you should not need to defragment ext2, it's not like FAT32 or NTFS in its allocation patterns. |
| 01:12.14 | Xeon | my recently trashed computer was only 400mhz |
| 01:12.16 | br33zy | but the new ones (prototypes still i think) are 400mhz xscales |
| 01:12.20 | br33zy | lol |
| 01:12.27 | Xeon | ... |
| 01:12.29 | Xeon | no comment. |
| 01:12.37 | br33zy | www.myzaurus.com |
| 01:12.48 | br33zy | there are a few more sites too.. if oyu want to get one |
| 01:12.51 | br33zy | :-) |
| 01:12.59 | wyvern | If it _is_ overly non-contiguous you're best off copying everything to a partition and copying it back, I would not suggest using an ext2 defragmentation tool on it. There is one around but it's dangerous. |
| 01:13.05 | Xeon | how much mem? 8mb? |
| 01:13.10 | br33zy | well |
| 01:13.11 | br33zy | 5000d |
| 01:13.13 | br33zy | has like |
| 01:13.19 | br33zy | hmm what was it |
| 01:13.23 | br33zy | 32 megs or something |
| 01:13.27 | br33zy | and 5500 hsa 64 |
| 01:13.40 | br33zy | but they both have one compactflash slot and one sd slot |
| 01:13.46 | Xeon | ... |
| 01:14.05 | Xeon | im getting a pda soon, ill mkae sure to check the zaurus out first |
| 01:14.12 | br33zy | yeah |
| 01:14.13 | Xeon | it can run linux..haha |
| 01:14.13 | br33zy | its great |
| 01:14.19 | br33zy | yup |
| 01:14.32 | Xeon | next is to get my ti 83+ to run linux :) |
| 01:14.39 | br33zy | hehe |
| 01:15.04 | wyvern | Before you go out and spend $400 on a Zaurus I would suggest putting down on paper/text file what exactly it is you plan/hope to use your PDA for. |
| 01:15.27 | wyvern | If you only require a simple address book/memopad/calander then an $80 PDA will do you fine. |
| 01:15.29 | br33zy | just like my dad... |
| 01:15.45 | Xeon | mainly to geek with and fulfill my geekliness. |
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| 01:15.59 | br33zy | then buy one |
| 01:16.00 | br33zy | :) |
| 01:16.01 | wyvern | If you want to be able to ssh, run web browsers, and do ubergeeky things then you probably want a Zaurus or an Ipaq :) |
| 01:16.16 | br33zy | or a computer |
| 01:16.20 | br33zy | (desktop) |
| 01:16.28 | noda | Heh, I was about to say... |
| 01:16.28 | Xeon | holy crap, imagine... |
| 01:16.34 | wyvern | yeah, but those are hard to fit in your pocket. |
| 01:16.36 | noda | My Zaurus can do as much as a Win98 box :) |
| 01:16.44 | wyvern | unless you have big fscking pockets |
| 01:16.47 | br33zy | hehe |
| 01:16.49 | Xeon | cany other languages work on it? |
| 01:17.00 | br33zy | c |
| 01:17.04 | Xeon | awesome |
| 01:17.08 | br33zy | (gcc that is) |
| 01:17.10 | wyvern | and your penis is small enough to not get tangled and hurt in the cabling mess |
| 01:17.12 | br33zy | if you have enough space |
| 01:17.19 | br33zy | heh |
| 01:17.20 | noda | php and python have been ported to the Z, and they're nice and small. |
| 01:17.23 | noda | And bash. |
| 01:17.29 | Xeon | *drool* |
| 01:17.54 | br33zy | and apache & stuff |
| 01:17.58 | br33zy | and ruby |
| 01:17.59 | Xeon | holy crap, now i can pretend like im listening to the teacher and actually be coding haha |
| 01:17.59 | br33zy | lol |
| 01:18.05 | br33zy | yup |
| 01:18.33 | noda | Nah, don't use apache, just use nanoweb (PHP web server) |
| 01:18.43 | Xeon | i didnt know they had such advanced pda's....i thought the latest one was 33mhz :/ |
| 01:18.49 | br33zy | noda: whatever :) |
| 01:18.58 | br33zy | Xeon: lol! |
| 01:18.59 | noda | Nah, 400mhz. |
| 01:19.08 | noda | Well, they have full computers, but 400mhz is the latest Sharp one :) |
| 01:19.10 | br33zy | xscale |
| 01:19.16 | br33zy | intel xscale |
| 01:19.27 | br33zy | i think some of the new ipaqs already have 400mhz xscales |
| 01:19.59 | noda | Yeah, the SL-5600 has one too. |
| 01:20.08 | Xeon | ok, now the real question, how long does the battery last :) |
| 01:20.21 | noda | Not long :P |
| 01:20.30 | br33zy | wow! |
| 01:20.35 | noda | I've listened to music and read (with the light on dim) for 4-5hrs. |
| 01:20.42 | br33zy | tinyx, fluxbox, and something else is only 3.5 megs! |
| 01:21.10 | noda | Fun eh :) |
| 01:21.29 | br33zy | hehe |
| 01:22.36 | br33zy | do i need anything else but tinyx to run fluxbox? |
| 01:23.03 | br33zy | xmonobut... |
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| 01:24.05 | br33zy | hi jlb |
| 01:24.07 | br33zy | err |
| 01:24.11 | br33zy | hi JasonNJ2 |
| 01:24.11 | br33zy | lol |
| 01:25.16 | br33zy | installing kismet.. installing kaffe.. installing xmonobut |
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| 01:26.20 | JasonNJ2 | http://www.freeloader.com/games/hitthefan.htm |
| 01:26.22 | JasonNJ2 | lol |
| 01:26.54 | codemnky | yo |
| 01:27.02 | codemnky | anyone here know anything about cisco |
| 01:27.09 | codemnky | need newbi help |
| 01:27.11 | codemnky | 1 question |
| 01:29.09 | noda | codemnky: I'll say newbie help. Cisco is a company, there ya go, I know something :) |
| 01:29.57 | noda | codemnky: And please, this applies to every single IRC channel out there (afaik): Don't ask if you can ask a question. Just ask the damned question and then we'll tell you whether you should have asked it or not :) |
| 01:31.22 | codemnky | did a passwd recovery on a cisco router but it still shows the interfaces administrativly down when i |
| 01:31.29 | codemnky | thanks alot ass hole |
| 01:31.38 | codemnky | bitch at me then leave |
| 01:32.03 | Cloudchaser | administratively down means you go to config t |
| 01:32.06 | br33zy | yeah.. dont you just hate that? |
| 01:32.15 | codemnky | ibot noda is a ass hole |
| 01:32.16 | | ...but noda is already something else... |
| 01:32.18 | Cloudchaser | then to the interface |
| 01:32.25 | Cloudchaser | then type no shut |
| 01:32.39 | codemnky | hmm |
| 01:32.43 | codemnky | 1 sec |
| 01:32.45 | codemnky | thanks cloud |
| 01:32.54 | br33zy | ibot noda |
| 01:32.54 | | extra, extra, read all about it, noda is a real world Clark Kent |
| 01:33.05 | br33zy | ibot br33zy |
| 01:33.05 | | you are, like, a programmer that does lots of stuff with PDAs and different languages. |
| 01:33.07 | Cloudchaser | which interface? |
| 01:33.16 | codemnky | hey, even if i reboot the router it will still say in admin mode? |
| 01:33.25 | Cloudchaser | yes |
| 01:33.29 | codemnky | darn it |
| 01:33.32 | Cloudchaser | until you bring it up |
| 01:33.38 | Cloudchaser | its not in admin mode |
| 01:33.42 | Cloudchaser | its shut down |
| 01:33.43 | codemnky | so i need to log back in, enable and type no shut |
| 01:33.44 | codemnky | ? |
| 01:33.50 | Cloudchaser | do like this: |
| 01:33.54 | Cloudchaser | log in |
| 01:33.56 | Cloudchaser | type enable |
| 01:34.01 | Cloudchaser | then: config t |
| 01:34.03 | JasonNJ2 | cool someone ported kaffee to qtopia |
| 01:34.06 | Wintre | Heh |
| 01:34.12 | codemnky | heh |
| 01:34.12 | Wintre | #cisco-tutorial |
| 01:34.13 | Cloudchaser | int e0 or fa0 |
| 01:34.24 | Cloudchaser | then: no shut |
| 01:34.38 | codemnky | let me try that |
| 01:34.45 | Cloudchaser | or. int FastEthernet0 |
| 01:35.11 | Cloudchaser | course thats assuming its the e0 interface you want up |
| 01:35.19 | codemnky | ok |
| 01:35.21 | codemnky | it is |
| 01:35.22 | Wintre | If you hit tab it will show you completion possibilities |
| 01:35.32 | codemnky | nice |
| 01:35.33 | Cloudchaser | if its a 2500 its e0 |
| 01:35.34 | Wintre | And if you show the running config it will tell you which interfaces you have |
| 01:35.45 | Cloudchaser | since they didn't usually have fastethernet |
| 01:36.02 | ZzzTiger | since i switched from 3.0 to 3.1rc installing apps takes forever!! |
| 01:36.23 | br33zy | ZzzTiger: yeah... i noticed a difference also |
| 01:36.44 | ZzzTiger | br33zy :(( |
| 01:37.53 | ZzzTiger | at least 10 times longer i'd say |
| 01:38.01 | Onyx4 | on what media? |
| 01:38.07 | ZzzTiger | sd |
| 01:38.10 | codemnky | after no shut |
| 01:38.12 | codemnky | then why |
| 01:38.15 | codemnky | what |
| 01:38.18 | Onyx4 | sd ext2? |
| 01:38.25 | ZzzTiger | sure |
| 01:38.31 | ZzzTiger | same as before |
| 01:38.40 | ZzzTiger | 3.0 n/p |
| 01:38.45 | Cloudchaser | exit out of there to enable prompt |
| 01:38.49 | Onyx4 | we've seen this slowdown bug, it was caused by running the "sync" option on the mount point |
| 01:38.50 | ZzzTiger | 3.1rc1... sloooooooooow |
| 01:38.52 | Cloudchaser | and type write t |
| 01:38.55 | Onyx4 | type mount |
| 01:39.01 | Cloudchaser | sh int to see if the interface came up |
| 01:39.02 | Onyx4 | check if it's sync on the line for /mnt/card |
| 01:39.26 | Cloudchaser | JasonNJ2 you still here? |
| 01:39.46 | Cloudchaser | i had to lie to your website |
| 01:39.50 | ZzzTiger | Onyx4: yes therses a sync |
| 01:39.57 | codemnky | what's weird is the csu/dsu is plugged into serial1 |
| 01:40.10 | Onyx4 | ZzzTiger: did you upgrade to OZ 3.1 or flashed? |
| 01:40.11 | codemnky | wait |
| 01:40.17 | ZzzTiger | flashed |
| 01:40.17 | codemnky | for serial is it |
| 01:40.18 | codemnky | s1 |
| 01:40.29 | Onyx4 | ZzzTiger: mmm that was supposed to be removed, let me check |
| 01:40.36 | Cloudchaser | yes or s0 |
| 01:40.44 | Onyx4 | ZzzTiger: edit your fstab with vi , take out just the word "sync" from /mnt/card line |
| 01:40.47 | Cloudchaser | depends on where its plugged in and what the config says |
| 01:40.51 | Onyx4 | ZzzTiger: then reboot |
| 01:40.52 | codemnky | ok |
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| 01:40.55 | codemnky | that fixed it |
| 01:40.55 | Cloudchaser | have to look at your configt |
| 01:40.56 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i thought we took out sync by default for oz3.1rc1 |
| 01:40.57 | codemnky | thanks a bunch |
| 01:41.00 | ZzzTiger | and a komma?!M:) |
| 01:41.02 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: yes I tought so too |
| 01:41.07 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I wonder how it got there |
| 01:41.20 | Neo|Work | ok, so I will release MSR tonight |
| 01:41.42 | Onyx4 | I'm looking at my image of initrd in rootfs, and I don't see the word sync, so maybe it's just kergoth's build |
| 01:41.44 | DaWorm | WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 01:41.48 | Onyx4 | it would be fixed in OZ 3.1rc2 then |
| 01:41.52 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 01:42.02 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: you talked to Neo|Work and figured out this sdl business? |
| 01:42.07 | Onyx4 | sort of |
| 01:42.09 | DaWorm | about time MSR hits the shelves |
| 01:42.27 | Onyx4 | for hwkey grab, we need to use -lSDLmain, but we might be able to bypass the video somehow |
| 01:42.37 | Onyx4 | he says he is using qdirectpainter already |
| 01:42.42 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmm |
| 01:42.50 | TheMasterMind1 | i'd rather we not use -lSDLmain |
| 01:42.53 | Cloudchaser | codemnky: did you say your isp made some changes to the router? |
| 01:42.55 | TheMasterMind1 | it causes mplayer to do weird stuff |
| 01:42.58 | TheMasterMind1 | like segfault and stuff |
| 01:43.01 | Onyx4 | but it's normal that it's a bit slower, since you are not writing directly to frame buffer but a medium or something like that |
| 01:43.05 | TheMasterMind1 | right |
| 01:43.13 | codemnky | not yet, just about to map it out |
| 01:43.17 | Onyx4 | but we don't need it for mplayer if we gonna use xmms-e right? |
| 01:43.19 | codemnky | finially got the cables |
| 01:43.20 | TheMasterMind1 | isn't there a way to modify SDLmain so it does hwgrab but not qdirectpainter or somesuch |
| 01:43.33 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: we might be able to, but hwgrab is not in cvs yet |
| 01:43.38 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 01:43.41 | TheMasterMind1 | we'll play with it |
| 01:43.42 | Onyx4 | so let's wait until he implements it |
| 01:43.58 | Onyx4 | we could also just put the code manually into prboom for example, for hwkey grab but not even use SDL video |
| 01:44.10 | Onyx4 | did you try my build of prboom? |
| 01:44.15 | TheMasterMind1 | not yet |
| 01:44.29 | Onyx4 | k me neither : |
| 01:44.32 | Onyx4 | :) |
| 01:44.50 | Onyx4 | ZzzTiger: did it fix it? |
| 01:45.00 | ZzzTiger | booting |
| 01:47.11 | ZzzTiger | downloading konqueror... |
| 01:48.31 | ZzzTiger | weeeeeeellllllllll |
| 01:48.36 | ZzzTiger | loox like it helped.. |
| 01:48.38 | ZzzTiger | A LOT |
| 01:48.56 | Onyx4 | yes, this was a known bug, might have been fixed just right after we released rc1 |
| 01:49.00 | codemnky | hey cloud |
| 01:49.03 | ZzzTiger | installing konq snapshot full took me 14 min... no it was 22 sec !!!! |
| 01:49.05 | Onyx4 | so it should be default from now on |
| 01:49.08 | Cloudchaser | yes? |
| 01:49.14 | br33zy | openzaurus 3.1rc1 is screwed up on key response... |
| 01:49.19 | codemnky | how do i change not admin passwd |
| 01:49.31 | Onyx4 | brent: yes we're working on 2.4.19 with a brand new keyboard driver |
| 01:49.31 | ZzzTiger | not? |
| 01:49.42 | codemnky | i'm talking about a cisco |
| 01:49.55 | codemnky | the telent login one |
| 01:50.11 | codemnky | (i know this ain't the cisco channel, but i also own a Z!) |
| 01:50.18 | codemnky | ;) |
| 01:50.41 | Neo|Work | TheMasterMind1: to grab the keyboard you NEED to link with the qtX libx |
| 01:50.52 | Neo|Work | and you NEED a QPEApplication (which you should always have anyway) |
| 01:50.59 | Cloudchaser | config t |
| 01:50.59 | Neo|Work | what SDLmain does is just that |
| 01:51.02 | ZzzTiger | onyx; should i take out the sync for cf, too? |
| 01:51.02 | Cloudchaser | line vty 0 4 |
| 01:51.15 | Cloudchaser | password yourpassword |
| 01:51.37 | Neo|Work | TheMasterMind1: using SDL to do grabbing if you don't use it for graphics is, on the other hand, nonsensical |
| 01:51.40 | Onyx4 | ZzzTiger: only if you are running ext2 on cf, I keep vfat myself with sync |
| 01:51.47 | ZzzTiger | ok.. |
| 01:51.52 | TheMasterMind1 | Neo|Work: heh, yea |
| 01:51.55 | codemnky | ok |
| 01:52.04 | Neo|Work | how do you do framebuffer today? QDirectPainter or /dev/fb directly, saying "fuck qtopia"? |
| 01:52.11 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i'm thinking we only need to enable video/hw grabbing for some apps anyway, and mplayer isn't one of them |
| 01:52.22 | Neo|Work | NONE of my games use SDL for video, all with a few exceptions use QDirectPainter |
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| 01:52.29 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: yeah, only one I could see so far is prboom maybe for the keys |
| 01:52.31 | br33zy | errrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 01:52.36 | TheMasterMind1 | like prboom would be one which would use qdirectpainter and hwgrabbing right? |
| 01:52.39 | TheMasterMind1 | right |
| 01:52.54 | br33zy | oz3.1rc1 is weird... i push the application, and this property screen pops up.. its really hard to get the actual application to launch! |
| 01:53.18 | Neo|Work | note of course that prboom + SDL only will work on SL5x00 (not sure about 5600) and ipaqs < 38xx |
| 01:53.28 | Neo|Work | because SDL doesn't do widescreen other than on those devices |
| 01:53.46 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 01:54.03 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: are you push-holding? |
| 01:54.16 | br33zy | TheMasterMind1: no.. i sware |
| 01:54.22 | br33zy | its screwed up |
| 01:54.23 | TheMasterMind1 | restart opie |
| 01:54.36 | Neo|Work | I should probably also make it possible to get direct access to the framebuffer without going through a double buffer surface |
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| 01:55.01 | Neo|Work | only problem is that SDL would have no way of telling you how the screen is rotated and then you might as well just use QDirectPainter yourself |
| 01:55.10 | Neo|Work | TheMasterMind1: and do you use QDirectPainter for mplayer? |
| 01:55.20 | TheMasterMind1 | no, straight to fb |
| 01:55.26 | br33zy | TheMasterMind1: are there any like.. graphing widgets in the qt widget set? |
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| 01:55.39 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: dunno, never used qt |
| 01:55.48 | br33zy | or qtopia |
| 01:55.49 | br33zy | or whatever |
| 01:56.28 | TheMasterMind1 | never used it :) |
| 01:56.29 | Neo|Work | TheMasterMind1: so how do you stop qt from updating it? |
| 01:56.31 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't do gui programming |
| 01:56.42 | br33zy | i see |
| 01:56.51 | TheMasterMind1 | Neo|Work: we don't, atm. we have xmms-e that creates a fullscreen widgets and then does a system call on mplayer... |
| 01:56.51 | Neo|Work | does it change VT or something? |
| 01:57.01 | Neo|Work | how amazingly ugly. :-P |
| 01:57.06 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 01:57.08 | Neo|Work | why not make a QDirectPainter backend for mplayer? |
| 01:57.19 | Neo|Work | it is NOT hard really |
| 01:57.26 | TheMasterMind1 | we could.. we should. just don't know how |
| 01:57.27 | Neo|Work | at least not compared to mmapping /dev/fb manually |
| 01:57.40 | Neo|Work | anyhow, going home |
| 01:57.45 | TheMasterMind1 | last we were compiling with -lSDLmain mplayer kept segfaulting |
| 01:57.47 | TheMasterMind1 | so we stopped :) |
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| 02:02.26 | jlb | Oops. |
| 02:02.37 | jlb | Oops. mischan. :) |
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| 02:13.57 | br33zy | my zaurus wont turn off~!!!!!! |
| 02:14.03 | br33zy | if i hold the Cancel button |
| 02:14.05 | br33zy | it just sits there |
| 02:14.08 | br33zy | and its not frozen |
| 02:14.08 | Wintre | Suspend |
| 02:14.09 | br33zy | what do i do? |
| 02:14.15 | Wintre | Try rebooting maybe |
| 02:14.20 | Wintre | Others can probably give better advice |
| 02:14.33 | H4NZ0 | mm |
| 02:14.47 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: its a bug, has been fixed |
| 02:14.50 | TheMasterMind1 | it will suspend eventually |
| 02:14.53 | TheMasterMind1 | leave it |
| 02:14.55 | br33zy | im in 3.1rc1 |
| 02:15.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yes, i know, its a bug |
| 02:15.05 | br33zy | oh |
| 02:15.06 | br33zy | ok |
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| 02:48.14 | JasonNJ2 | man my bandwidth is completely going to shit tonight |
| 02:55.15 | Com[Plex] | jsut called UPS again |
| 02:55.35 | Com[Plex] | they directed me to contact staples : where I shipped it: to issue a tracer on the package |
| 02:56.05 | Com[Plex] | I asked why I couldnt just issue the tracer from there. and they said that they coudnt do it from there, since staples was the shipping point.l |
| 02:56.22 | TheMasterMind1 | *sigh* |
| 03:03.44 | Pendalar | sup guys |
| 03:04.43 | TheMasterMind1 | hi |
| 03:10.50 | Pendalar | hm wonder if http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download&platform=linux#instructions (jedit) would work on Z |
| 03:11.14 | Pendalar | should but I know jack about java |
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| 03:15.50 | treke|home | fuck fuck fuck. I did it again |
| 03:15.55 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 03:16.46 | treke|home | TheMasterMind1: I wiped out the install on my ipaq |
| 03:18.38 | TheMasterMind1 | ouch |
| 03:18.59 | treke|home | I did the exact same stupid thing last night :) |
| 03:19.04 | TheMasterMind1 | Pendalar: hmm, well, seing as java is supposed to be able to run anywhere, i'd say yes |
| 03:19.07 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 03:19.29 | Pendalar | I agree, will try later |
| 03:19.38 | Pendalar | I like jedit on the box.. would be nice |
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| 04:19.05 | Pendalar | heh got to love flashing |
| 04:19.27 | Pendalar | fingers too big to hit C,D.. even when I get it it doesn't show me the love for 5-6 times |
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| 04:24.21 | treke|home | hehe |
| 04:24.22 | treke|home | when? |
| 04:24.42 | treke|home | I imagine that means now :) |
| 04:25.16 | Wintre | That's kinda funny |
| 04:25.31 | Wintre | Since it's not like anybody who cares doesn't already know what's going to happen from having already read the book |
| 04:26.19 | treke|home | you never know with movies |
| 04:32.40 | kergoth | hey |
| 04:33.44 | treke|home | yo |
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| 05:10.54 | treke|home | 78cool. back up and running. Anyone wanna takes bets on whether I screw up again tomorrow night? :) |
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| 06:11.15 | NoRemorse | heya |
| 06:12.45 | NoRemorse | kergoth: 3.1rc1 looks good, AQPKg now opens local ipk's but the wlan cfcard still doesnt get detected on a reboot. |
| 06:13.13 | kergoth | NoRemorse: ? |
| 06:13.26 | NoRemorse | just some feedback re 3.1rc1 |
| 06:13.33 | NoRemorse | looking good :) |
| 06:13.34 | kergoth | NoRemorse: i havent heard that reported. all the users i've spoken with have in fact noticed that they -have- to reboot to get their card up |
| 06:13.45 | kergoth | NoRemorse: networksetup has a bug re: WEP key, if you're using WEP, dont expect it to work |
| 06:14.15 | NoRemorse | ah ok yep I am, what can I put in startup scripts to get around it? is it as easy as ifconfig wlan0 down/up ? |
| 06:14.30 | kergoth | NoRemorse: edit /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts |
| 06:14.35 | NoRemorse | u mentioned something the other day thats as good as removing and re-inserting |
| 06:14.36 | kergoth | NoRemorse: KEY="" entry |
| 06:14.53 | NoRemorse | nah I wanna keep WEP my AP has wep |
| 06:14.53 | kergoth | huh? |
| 06:14.58 | kergoth | are you dense or something? |
| 06:15.04 | NoRemorse | the AP I am connecting to has a wep key set |
| 06:15.05 | kergoth | the line you need to edit is KEY=".." |
| 06:15.10 | kergoth | no shit, you fucking said that already |
| 06:15.17 | NoRemorse | sigh |
| 06:15.17 | kergoth | you edit the line to read KEY="mykeyinhex" |
| 06:15.24 | NoRemorse | ok |
| 06:15.24 | kergoth | this isnt hard to understand |
| 06:15.28 | kergoth | i never implied you should disable wep |
| 06:15.38 | NoRemorse | sorry I thought you did |
| 06:16.27 | kergoth | np |
| 06:17.09 | NoRemorse | it allready has my key, other than the fact it has "open" tacked on the end? |
| 06:17.44 | kergoth | using open system or shared key? |
| 06:17.53 | NoRemorse | open so thats ok. |
| 06:19.00 | NoRemorse | fuck opera looks sick. oh well nice try. |
| 06:19.08 | kergoth | ? |
| 06:19.24 | NoRemorse | the toolbar is all blank hehe |
| 06:19.35 | kergoth | report to the operacreator guy |
| 06:19.39 | kergoth | just missing icons in the ipk |
| 06:20.05 | NoRemorse | ah cool ta |
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| 08:25.31 | sig | shouldn't /mnt/card/Documents show on the zauru's gui Documents? |
| 08:25.36 | sig | or is that just for /home/root/Documents ? |
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| 08:42.49 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | can anyone help me with routing and win xp? |
| 08:48.16 | NeoTron | And Motocross Stunt Racer is available! |
| 08:48.43 | DaWorm | whoa |
| 08:51.06 | NeoTron | just need to update my page complete. it's in the store however |
| 08:51.37 | DaWorm | hmmm...i usually get stuff from handango |
| 08:51.41 | DaWorm | paypal doesnt work in my area |
| 08:51.43 | DaWorm | :( |
| 08:54.09 | DaWorm | it would have been cool too if ziosoft went with your propositions :) |
| 08:54.10 | NeoTron | handango is made live but it will take a while |
| 08:54.20 | NeoTron | I might bug them again, perhaps |
| 08:54.30 | NeoTron | but they wanted me to port a not-so-cool game IMHO |
| 08:54.36 | DaWorm | and we'll see MS' Age of Empires.... |
| 08:54.39 | DaWorm | NOT |
| 08:54.54 | DaWorm | how about hexacto? |
| 08:58.10 | NeoTron | sent a few mails, no response at all |
| 09:11.19 | tux_mike | damn. this licensing bs is really starting to piss me off |
| 09:27.56 | troffasky | anyone know what the size of the DC connector on the Zaurus 5500 is supposed to be? |
| 09:31.28 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | what do i do wrong when i try to install some packages and it tells me that it couldnt open the bla.list? |
| 09:32.23 | troffasky | search google for the exact text of the error message |
| 09:32.34 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | ok |
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| 09:38.26 | NoRemorse | heya what do I need other than libmad0 to get opie-mediaplayer going please? it wont start up |
| 09:38.40 | troffasky | error message? |
| 09:39.07 | NoRemorse | none . I get the little hourglass then it disappears without the app strarting |
| 09:39.31 | troffasky | try starting it from the console |
| 09:40.15 | NoRemorse | whats the binary? |
| 09:40.58 | troffasky | ipkg file packagename | grep bin |
| 09:41.13 | troffasky | s/file/files |
| 09:41.53 | NoRemorse | hmm |
| 09:42.01 | NoRemorse | libxine.so.1 missing |
| 09:42.18 | troffasky | there you go! |
| 09:42.19 | NoRemorse | which is crap cos its there |
| 09:42.24 | troffasky | ah |
| 09:42.46 | troffasky | ldconfig -v | grep xine |
| 09:43.21 | NoRemorse | hmm no ldconfig hanf |
| 09:43.23 | NoRemorse | hang |
| 09:43.37 | troffasky | ldconfig hangs? |
| 09:43.42 | NoRemorse | what package is it in? |
| 09:43.45 | NoRemorse | nah not found hehe |
| 09:44.25 | troffasky | libc6 |
| 09:44.37 | NoRemorse | hmm |
| 09:44.48 | troffasky | hang on....you using OpenZaurus? |
| 09:45.36 | NoRemorse | yep |
| 09:45.40 | NoRemorse | yeah libc6-utils |
| 09:45.44 | NoRemorse | wasnt installed |
| 09:46.01 | NoRemorse | ok looks like all the libraries that libmad0 installed didnt link properly in /usr/lib |
| 09:46.42 | NoRemorse | ipkg: Cannot create symlink from ./usr/lib/libmad.so.0 to 'libmad.so.0.1.0': Operation not permitted |
| 09:46.44 | NoRemorse | there ya go |
| 09:47.42 | kergoth | NoRemorse: sounds like you installed it to a vfat partition/card |
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| 09:48.45 | NoRemorse | yep sd |
| 09:48.51 | kergoth | NoRemorse: that wont work |
| 09:49.00 | troffasky | reformat your SD to ext2 |
| 09:49.02 | kergoth | NoRemorse: you cant install something that requires symlinks to a media that doesnt support symlinks |
| 09:49.03 | NoRemorse | hmm ok thats a worry |
| 09:49.43 | NoRemorse | thanks. |
| 09:49.44 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | what is the invalid magic error when installing packages? |
| 09:50.13 | kergoth | BiGBiGYLLaMa: corrupt package |
| 09:50.23 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | hmm |
| 09:50.46 | troffasky | did you download it in IE? |
| 09:51.05 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | is there something to do when unpacking tar files with winrar? |
| 09:51.20 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | troffasky: yes |
| 09:51.54 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | should i use netscape? |
| 09:52.07 | troffasky | some web servers don't have the mimetype for ipkg's set properly, so it may have appeared as text in your browser |
| 09:52.24 | troffasky | i think you hold down shift when clicking on a link |
| 09:52.26 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | no i dl it properly |
| 09:52.37 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | was no prob |
| 09:53.04 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | hmm |
| 09:53.08 | troffasky | what |
| 09:53.12 | troffasky | 's this about winrar? |
| 09:53.47 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | well all packages i untared with winrar doesnt work |
| 09:53.59 | kolla | hehe... a zaurus thread on the newton talk list.. |
| 09:54.03 | NoRemorse | kergoth would you recommend ext3 or ext2 for a toshiba SD? |
| 09:54.52 | troffasky | BiGBiGYLLaMa: try checking winrar's options for line end conversion [ie select none] |
| 09:57.56 | NoRemorse | hm fdisk crashing with bus error, old version wroks ok tho |
| 09:57.56 | kergoth | NoRemorse: ext2 |
| 09:58.02 | NoRemorse | thanks kergoth |
| 09:58.20 | kergoth | NoRemorse: ext3 will put a journal on the card, which will result in more flash writes. you'll wear the card faster. |
| 09:58.30 | troffasky | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.34 | NoRemorse | ah yep |
| 09:58.52 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | troffasky: what should i use instead? |
| 09:59.15 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | untar for win? |
| 09:59.23 | NoRemorse | how many writes does an sd typically have? |
| 09:59.23 | troffasky | well what I mean is, why are your pkgs in tar balls? |
| 10:00.25 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | troffasky: i did dl them .. and they were in *.ipkg.tar |
| 10:00.47 | troffasky | right I see...what site was that from? |
| 10:00.52 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | *ipk.tar even |
| 10:02.09 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=411 |
| 10:03.17 | troffasky | errrm.....where? I only see the link to http://psifertex.com/zaurus/gbz_0.2_arm.ipk |
| 10:04.22 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | it is a tar file |
| 10:05.00 | troffasky | alex@sporran:/tmp$ file gbz_0.2_arm.ipk |
| 10:05.00 | troffasky | gbz_0.2_arm.ipk: gzip compressed data, deflated, last modified: Sun Aug 25 15:11:44 2002, os: Unix |
| 10:06.12 | troffasky | it's a tar.gz file, but you use ipkg to install the ipk file, without untarring it first! |
| 10:07.09 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | i installed it...thx |
| 10:07.19 | NoRemorse | doh. damn reboot without suspend bug. |
| 10:07.35 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | the ie wanted to save it as tar file.. dunno why |
| 10:07.42 | troffasky | BiGBGiGYLLaMa: got there at last, eh?!? |
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| 10:10.23 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | does anyone know howto route under win xp? |
| 10:11.16 | NoRemorse | route add |
| 10:11.40 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | yess.. but which route ? |
| 10:12.16 | NoRemorse | u tell me! what route you want to add?! |
| 10:13.17 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | i have my z on usb connected to my comp... my comp is connected to a router which connects to internet |
| 10:13.30 | NoRemorse | yep. |
| 10:13.45 | NoRemorse | u want your z on the net via xp and the router right? |
| 10:13.53 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | yes |
| 10:14.12 | troffasky | echo 1 > c:\win32\sys\net\ip_forward ;-) |
| 10:14.26 | NoRemorse | ignore that hehe |
| 10:14.34 | NoRemorse | um... use internet connecxtion sharing |
| 10:14.41 | NoRemorse | enable the interfaces for sharing |
| 10:16.06 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | well i changed the ip of the z and the ip of my comp on the usb thing... and i told my comp to do ics for the usb connection |
| 10:16.08 | NoRemorse | wow OZ is very resilient to the reboot without suspend bug! |
| 10:16.43 | NoRemorse | then it should work assuming your router does NAT |
| 10:16.44 | ZzzTiger | haha |
| 10:21.10 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | what is the nat thing? |
| 10:21.16 | kolla | woa.. lots and lots of sl550 on ebay :) |
| 10:21.48 | ZzzTiger | kolla? where? com? |
| 10:21.54 | kolla | yes |
| 10:22.11 | NoRemorse | sigh |
| 10:22.28 | NoRemorse | google is your friend, not me :( |
| 10:22.53 | ZzzTiger | why would the konq not open a url, but open all the others fine? on a desktop it opens, konq says "unknown host" |
| 10:23.10 | troffasky | typo? |
| 10:23.21 | ZzzTiger | no i copied it |
| 10:23.30 | ZzzTiger | http://www.hertstein-coelbe.de/kuschels/tiger2.jpg |
| 10:23.33 | ZzzTiger | try it |
| 10:25.04 | troffasky | I get: "Malformed URL: file:" |
| 10:25.21 | ZzzTiger | huh? |
| 10:25.24 | ZzzTiger | hmm |
| 10:25.31 | ZzzTiger | i get unknown host |
| 10:25.44 | ZzzTiger | konq suckz :(( |
| 10:25.50 | troffasky | yeah that's starting konqueror with: konqueror http://www.hertstein-coelbe.de/kuschels/tiger2.jpg |
| 10:26.05 | kolla | "SL-5600 uses a 400MHz Intel XScale processor, made up of 32MB SDRAM and 64MB of protected Flash" |
| 10:26.14 | kolla | what is meant by "protected"? |
| 10:26.31 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | nat= national aids trust |
| 10:26.48 | troffasky | the same as it means for the 5500, ie not much |
| 10:26.53 | ZzzTiger | kolla: not writable? oz will fix that :) |
| 10:27.04 | troffasky | erm, wrong NAT |
| 10:27.20 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | Nutrition Analysis Tool? |
| 10:27.37 | troffasky | Not Actually Trying? |
| 10:27.41 | ZzzTiger | does anyone use opera with OZ? is it stable, yet? |
| 10:28.09 | ZzzTiger | not another teenie |
| 10:29.18 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | i got it: Network Address Translators |
| 10:29.26 | kolla | the Sharp Zaurus MPEG-4 Video Recorder CE-VR1 looks neat |
| 10:29.27 | troffasky | close enough |
| 10:29.40 | NoRemorse | ZzzTiger: the icons are missing at the top for me |
| 10:30.20 | ZzzTiger | NoRemorse: with opera u mean? |
| 10:30.24 | NoRemorse | yeah |
| 10:30.28 | ZzzTiger | hmm |
| 10:30.53 | ZzzTiger | konq seems to suck, too... any mozilla port, ,yet?? |
| 10:31.00 | NoRemorse | hehe |
| 10:31.18 | NoRemorse | I wanna be able to click on a url for an mp3 and have mediaplayer play it automagically |
| 10:33.39 | ZzzTiger | that should work |
| 10:34.11 | ZzzTiger | somehow :) |
| 10:34.13 | NoRemorse | nope I get jibbersih on the browser |
| 10:34.58 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | NoRemorse: i should be able to ping any computer in the internal network without nat? |
| 10:35.05 | NoRemorse | yes |
| 10:35.11 | NoRemorse | can u ping your pc? |
| 10:35.39 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | my pc yes.. but not the router.. mom.. i try again |
| 10:36.35 | NoRemorse | k |
| 10:38.24 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | no i cant ping the router |
| 10:38.45 | NoRemorse | ok. whats the ip address of Z, PC, and router |
| 10:39.52 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | z: 192.168.7.44 pc: usb 192.168.67.4 ethernet 192.168.6.4 router: 192.168.6.1 |
| 10:40.05 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | oops |
| 10:40.13 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | z: 192.168.7.44 pc: usb 192.168.7.4 ethernet 192.168.6.4 router: 192.168.6.1 |
| 10:40.14 | NoRemorse | -6? |
| 10:40.16 | NoRemorse | hehe |
| 10:40.20 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | :) |
| 10:40.33 | NoRemorse | whats the default route on the Z/ |
| 10:40.39 | NoRemorse | is it set? |
| 10:41.00 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | yes.. its set to 7.4 |
| 10:41.16 | NoRemorse | ok. does the router know where 192.168.7.44 is? |
| 10:41.28 | NoRemorse | or is it trying to go via the internet connection? |
| 10:43.44 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | hmm.. how does he know that? |
| 10:44.14 | NoRemorse | what sort of router? |
| 10:44.16 | NoRemorse | brand? |
| 10:45.21 | NoRemorse | you would be better off making the IP's this: z: 192.168.6.44 pc: usb 192.168.6.43 ethernet 192.168.6.4 router: 192.168.6.1 |
| 10:45.28 | NoRemorse | then they will all see each other |
| 10:45.41 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | hmm |
| 10:45.43 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | ok |
| 10:45.52 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | ill try that |
| 10:50.02 | ZzzTiger | NoRemorse: no brand :) p100 + fli4l.de *g* |
| 10:51.36 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | doesnt work either ;( |
| 10:51.50 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | cant ping the router |
| 10:52.08 | ZzzTiger | xp is not routing it from usb to ethernet |
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| 10:52.46 | NoRemorse | probably |
| 10:53.23 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | so what to do? |
| 10:53.28 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | anyroutes to set? |
| 10:54.03 | troffasky | #winXP |
| 10:55.19 | ZzzTiger | internet over usb + winxp + some kind of ics... *puke* |
| 11:26.03 | troffasky | anyone know why 'today' just eats memory continuously? I'm watching it in 'top' |
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| 11:32.22 | Dilb | hi |
| 11:41.56 | Johnmcl7 | troffasky: It's based on a PPC program? |
| 11:42.10 | troffasky | lol |
| 11:42.57 | troffasky | i've made an external battery pack for my zaurus for warwalking etc |
| 11:43.41 | Johnmcl7 | I've been meaning to try that |
| 11:43.56 | Johnmcl7 | I'm not cheeky enough though :/ |
| 11:44.28 | troffasky | you won't get far warwalking without a backup power supply |
| 11:46.15 | Johnmcl7 | Well, it's not what I bought the cf wi-fi card for :P |
| 11:50.09 | ZzzTiger | hmm.... cant ftp to my Z ... it says: SYNC unauthorized request, if u are using qtopia older than 1.5.1 please upgrade <deny> |
| 11:50.17 | ZzzTiger | is that a bug? |
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| 13:20.36 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | can anyone tell me why the ip is set to default when i put the z into the usb docking station? |
| 13:22.33 | ZzzTiger | coz usb suckz |
| 13:23.00 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | lol.. i know that .. but i dont have ethernet yet |
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| 13:27.43 | badl | PAAAH!!!! the Zaurus rox! |
| 13:27.55 | Johnmcl7 | Hehe |
| 13:27.56 | kolla | for five minutes perhaps |
| 13:28.12 | badl | kolla: well those 5 minutes keep coming back! :D |
| 13:28.24 | kolla | :) |
| 13:28.40 | badl | started a new port today |
| 13:28.52 | badl | zBlack Penguin |
| 13:29.36 | badl | has ended up more of a rewrite though, even repainting the gfx |
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| 14:22.17 | JasonNJ | hey check these otu |
| 14:23.04 | benmeyer | MMorning |
| 14:23.14 | JasonNJ | really expensive cooking pans for like 8 bucks a peice |
| 14:23.17 | JasonNJ | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LFGN/qid=1040130785/egulletcom-20 |
| 14:23.25 | JasonNJ | looks like cool xmas gift |
| 14:23.30 | JasonNJ | for people who like to cook |
| 14:23.34 | JasonNJ | I'm buying 6 |
| 14:24.49 | JasonNJ | thats stainless freakin steel |
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| 14:27.32 | ZzzTiger | hey chou: u using win xp? |
| 14:28.01 | chouimat | ZzzTiger: vade retro! |
| 14:28.18 | ZzzTiger | go back? |
| 14:28.19 | ZzzTiger | :) |
| 14:28.33 | ZzzTiger | had latin too long ago in school |
| 14:28.35 | chouimat | ZzzTiger: I don't use crap |
| 14:28.40 | ZzzTiger | lol |
| 14:28.51 | ZzzTiger | vade retro... |
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| 14:32.27 | DaJoker | JasonNJ: thanks for the tip.. I needed one more gift under the tree for my wife :) |
| 14:33.17 | benmeyer | http://www.opie.info/mantis/view_bug_page.php?f_id=0000550 |
| 14:33.23 | benmeyer | Can anyone reproduce ^ |
| 14:33.40 | benmeyer | Starting and stoping the network interface under "Information" causes extraneous "Stop successful" dialogs to appear, first 1 extra, then 2 ,3 and so on for ever |
| 14:33.45 | benmeyer | in opie |
| 14:34.33 | JasonNJ | dajoker: I do a lot of cooking and 8 bucks is VERY good for a pan like that |
| 14:34.45 | DaJoker | JasonNJ: no kidding.. |
| 14:35.07 | DaJoker | the fry pan is a pretty good price as well |
| 14:35.15 | JasonNJ | actually it appears ALL of the pans on amazon are onsale but that one is the most marked down |
| 14:36.07 | JasonNJ | they also have a combo pack |
| 14:36.09 | JasonNJ | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006FX94/qid=1040136022/br=1-8/ref=br_lf_k_8//102-0512815-7836110?v=glance&s=kitchen&n=1194426 |
| 14:36.13 | DaJoker | saw that |
| 14:36.19 | JasonNJ | but I think it is cheaper to get TWO pans at 7.99 |
| 14:36.24 | DaJoker | yup |
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| 14:58.33 | Pend | hrm Qtopia isn't finding OZ.. |
| 14:58.35 | Pend | fun ;-) |
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| 16:12.03 | Cloudchaser | hello all :) |
| 16:12.07 | kergoth | hey cloud |
| 16:12.09 | kergoth | how are ya this morning |
| 16:12.22 | Cloudchaser | not too bad thanks ;) and you? |
| 16:12.36 | kergoth | pretty good |
| 16:12.39 | kergoth | was up till 5am |
| 16:12.43 | kergoth | gotta cut that out |
| 16:12.45 | Cloudchaser | hehe must be tired! |
| 16:13.19 | chouimat | kergoth: planning going somewhere? |
| 16:13.32 | kergoth | nah |
| 16:13.36 | kergoth | working on this damn kernel |
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| 16:13.58 | kergoth | found one of my problems, i forgot to unlock the flash |
| 16:13.58 | chouimat | kergoth: doing some kazaa :) |
| 16:13.58 | Cloudchaser | how's it going? |
| 16:13.58 | kergoth | but thats just one of many |
| 16:13.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:14.04 | kergoth | few things that have got me bugged |
| 16:14.14 | kergoth | but the thing is, these are the same things that got me when i had 2.5.latest on the Z |
| 16:14.20 | kergoth | which means i wasnt completely insane then |
| 16:14.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:14.53 | chouimat | kergoth: we need the fucking documentation, so we will rewrite it correctly |
| 16:15.20 | kergoth | chouimat: yes |
| 16:19.03 | ZzzTiger | kergoth: with oz3.1rc1 the Z hangs often... waking up from suspend and it hangs. without doing anything... |
| 16:19.54 | kergoth | ZzzTiger: ? |
| 16:19.56 | kergoth | ZzzTiger: on cradle? |
| 16:19.59 | kergoth | ZzzTiger: i havent hung mine yet |
| 16:21.54 | ZzzTiger | kergoth: no, without cradle.... |
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| 16:51.42 | warmi | hi |
| 16:52.13 | benmeyer | hi |
| 16:52.20 | kergoth | hey warmi, benmeyer |
| 16:53.38 | benmeyer | hey warmi ever get permision to release that movie time's app? |
| 17:00.59 | Cloudchaser_ | hiya :) |
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| 17:13.57 | warmi | benmayer: actually they are about to unveil some sort of "OpenSource" license for personal use of XML feed of Movie and TV showtimes - after that we will release this stuff |
| 17:14.42 | warmi | they kept having problems with people "scraping" zap2it.com showtimes pages and creating XML feeds of their own ( like XMLTV or FreeGuide projects) |
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| 17:15.03 | George- | hello |
| 17:15.05 | warmi | hi |
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| 17:31.35 | SillyZ1 | ls |
| 17:31.35 | SillyZ1 | ls |
| 17:33.37 | kergoth | bash: ls: command not found |
| 17:35.44 | __darius_ | heh, is there a port of 'w' or 'who' for the zaurus? That was always get's me :) |
| 17:36.39 | kergoth | OZ of course, but still |
| 17:36.47 | __darius_ | heh |
| 17:37.19 | __darius_ | does oz have a frontend for package install/uninstall like Sharp's ROM does? |
| 17:37.36 | kergoth | of course |
| 17:37.41 | kergoth | and its easier to use and more powerful than the one in sharp |
| 17:38.02 | George- | hi kergoth |
| 17:38.27 | kergoth | hey george |
| 17:38.31 | George- | __darius_: OZ has everything Sharp ROM does and more! (that includes bugs :) |
| 17:38.41 | kergoth | ~lart George- |
| 17:38.45 | George- | lol |
| 17:38.53 | __darius_ | well.. it doesn't have the Hancom apps does it? or opera |
| 17:39.02 | George- | tibook was sent off today |
| 17:39.07 | George- | Should have it back in 3-4 weeks |
| 17:39.15 | George- | __darius_: it can |
| 17:39.17 | __darius_ | I'm thinking of my wife .. who actually owns the Zaurus and is a Windows user |
| 17:40.01 | __darius_ | Is there a better battery you can get for the 5500? |
| 17:40.18 | George- | no |
| 17:40.24 | __darius_ | bummer |
| 17:40.30 | __darius_ | cause 802.11 drains the crap out of mine |
| 17:42.00 | Johnmcl7 | It drains the crap out of most people's battery I would suspect! |
| 17:42.10 | George- | What do you think - do you think that there is any laptop that you would |
| 17:42.11 | George- | reccommend (im not allowed to get a G4 coz my parents think its too |
| 17:42.11 | George- | ugly(case and os)). |
| 17:42.15 | George- | PowerBook? UGLY? =P |
| 17:42.19 | George- | lol |
| 17:42.41 | __darius_ | speaking of which.. |
| 17:42.54 | __darius_ | When is Apple gonna come out with faster processors!!! |
| 17:43.04 | Johnmcl7 | MHz isn't everything |
| 17:43.20 | George- | __darius_: 1GHz G4 kicks the pants off a 1.7GHz P4 |
| 17:43.30 | __darius_ | heh, I'm on an Apple right now |
| 17:43.36 | Johnmcl7 | I still wouldn't use an Apple branded machine... |
| 17:43.36 | __darius_ | I KNOW what the performance is like |
| 17:43.45 | George- | __darius_: What OS do you use? |
| 17:43.48 | __darius_ | OS X |
| 17:43.52 | George- | evidently not |
| 17:43.59 | George- | ever tried running linux on that thing =P |
| 17:44.05 | George- | it'll be _way_ faster |
| 17:44.14 | __darius_ | heh, I want OS X |
| 17:44.14 | George- | OS X eats its way thru anything it can get hold of |
| 17:44.38 | __darius_ | otherwise we have a whole new set of criteria of why my grandma won't be using an Apple |
| 17:44.43 | __darius_ | today it's just price/performance |
| 17:45.45 | George- | heh |
| 17:45.58 | George- | I like my powerbook. apart from the design flaws with the damn thing |
| 17:46.33 | Johnmcl7 | I like my laptop...it's now over 15 months old and I'm still happy with it |
| 17:46.57 | kergoth | i need to pick up a laptop. |
| 17:47.17 | Johnmcl7 | Being a student I really needed the mobility so I got rid of the desktop |
| 17:48.12 | __darius_ | I thought I needed a laptop .. but I've become very successful with the Zaurus handwriting recognition |
| 17:48.12 | George- | kergoth: heh. take my powerbook. Only 3500 USD wanted :) |
| 17:49.55 | kergoth | ~fishslap George- |
| 17:50.02 | | ACTION slaps George- up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:50.02 | kergoth | :P |
| 17:50.12 | George- | damn |
| 17:50.17 | George- | :) |
| 17:50.39 | George- | I don't listen to the idiots at tech support |
| 17:51.49 | cor | so hear's a stupid question from a new zaurus owner/linux user, is there sync software for linux? |
| 17:51.59 | __darius_ | yes |
| 17:52.04 | George- | cor: NO |
| 17:52.12 | __darius_ | no? |
| 17:52.15 | George- | there isn't =P |
| 17:52.22 | __darius_ | I read there was..? |
| 17:52.26 | George- | I'm a crap liar |
| 17:52.29 | __darius_ | heh |
| 17:52.31 | __darius_ | bastard |
| 17:52.41 | __darius_ | I've never used it .. so you had me worrying :) |
| 17:52.44 | George- | lol |
| 17:52.52 | cor | i'd imagine ppl are working on it |
| 17:53.05 | George- | if he meant STABLE sync software, then the answer is definitely NO |
| 17:53.14 | cor | hah yah stable |
| 17:53.18 | cor | i dont use windows |
| 17:53.30 | George- | Cuz I've only ever once used Qtopia desktop, and it crashed my system hard |
| 17:53.33 | __darius_ | I say, install the ssh package and use that :) |
| 17:53.40 | kergoth | bah, vnc into it |
| 17:53.43 | cor | that really surprised me when i got home from LA to find out that windows is the primary desktop environment |
| 17:53.48 | George- | kergoth: rm -rf / |
| 17:54.07 | __darius_ | someone got me the other day... |
| 17:54.24 | __darius_ | I couldn't kill a process and they said ... "kill -9 -1 <process>" :) |
| 17:54.52 | George- | eewwwww... Tech support people taste AWFUL |
| 17:54.58 | George- | ;-) |
| 17:55.17 | kergoth | i hope you get indigestion |
| 17:56.08 | George- | </annoykergothtime> |
| 18:05.15 | ZzzTiger | is anyone successfully runing mini-ide + kopie? |
| 18:05.40 | kergoth | kopie? |
| 18:05.46 | ZzzTiger | -e |
| 18:05.48 | ZzzTiger | :) |
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| 18:06.05 | kybu | hi hi |
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| 18:12.00 | ZzzTiger | kergoth: are u using any c-compiler on the Z itself? which editor if at all? |
| 18:12.15 | kergoth | ZzzTiger: dont do any compiling on the z itself, just end up sshing into other boxen |
| 18:12.20 | kergoth | ZzzTiger: i use vim generally, or busybox vi |
| 18:12.30 | ZzzTiger | ok |
| 18:12.53 | ZzzTiger | iÄd like to use java EIDE or sumfin, but i cant get it to work, wont start :( |
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| 18:18.51 | dima_ | #tkc |
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| 19:18.44 | Com[Plex] | kergoth |
| 19:18.48 | Com[Plex] | still no ups :< |
| 19:19.09 | Com[Plex] | I contacted staples, they are issuing a claim or whatever. |
| 19:19.24 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: jeeze |
| 19:19.27 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: that really sucks man |
| 19:19.33 | Com[Plex] | I shyould have kept my battery and my screen protector.. |
| 19:19.50 | Com[Plex] | I should have tog 1,000$ insurance on it |
| 19:19.55 | Com[Plex] | tog got |
| 19:20.01 | Com[Plex] | I should have shipped it fedex. |
| 19:20.03 | Com[Plex] | :< |
| 19:26.41 | Com[Plex] | wehy the hell didnt UPS find my package for me when I called ? - nwo that STAPLES calls them, they sudently "found my pacakge" |
| 19:26.53 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: wtf? |
| 19:26.56 | Com[Plex] | and according to them, "it Is out for delivery ToDay" |
| 19:27.02 | Com[Plex] | yeah, IM pissed |
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| 19:43.35 | Neo|Work | <hypno>Go buy Motocross Stunt racer....</hypno> |
| 19:47.51 | angry | its finished??? |
| 19:48.39 | angry | cooool |
| 19:56.44 | Neo|Work | well, it's released. if it's finished remains to be seen. :P |
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| 19:59.48 | Neo|Work | ok, good news - Handango is now offering TRUELY free translations |
| 19:59.52 | Neo|Work | THAT I can agree on |
| 20:00.49 | kergoth`lunch | Neo|Work: nice. |
| 20:01.11 | Neo|Work | to japanese, korean and chineese |
| 20:01.19 | Neo|Work | not that the latter two would have any major markets today but... |
| 20:02.07 | treke | never hurts :) |
| 20:09.17 | kergoth`lunch | hmm guess i'd better go buy MSR |
| 20:12.11 | treke | <hypno>Go buy treke Motocross Stunt racer...</hypno |
| 20:12.38 | kergoth`lunch | hehe |
| 20:12.41 | kergoth`lunch | nice try ;) |
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| 20:17.12 | Neo|Work | I think I'll fail to actually get 10 games released by the end of the year |
| 20:17.27 | treke | hopefully one of them is hdb |
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| 20:18.58 | Neo|Work | no, I haven't started HDB for Zaurus yet |
| 20:18.58 | benmeyer | Thing like making fun dns entries :-D A->B->C->A |
| 20:18.59 | benmeyer | hehe |
| 20:19.09 | Neo|Work | but then again it's currently the only one I have too |
| 20:19.19 | benmeyer | domain alias's I mean |
| 20:19.23 | ZzzTiger | does anyone use a nokia 6310 ? |
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| 20:30.40 | ZzzTiger | hmm... 6310 doesnt seem to be able ti send all of its contacts at once to the Z |
| 20:30.42 | ZzzTiger | :(( |
| 20:32.40 | __darius_ | anyone know if 100mW Cisco cards are supported by the Zaurus? I believe I read that Cisco cards were.. and as far as I know there is no Cisco 100mW CF card, but would it theoretically be supported? |
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| 20:58.34 | imeadiate | does anyone here have a Pretec CompactWLAN Type I Card? |
| 20:58.44 | kergoth | imeadiate: i know a few people here do, why do you ask |
| 20:59.58 | imeadiate | im considering getting a zaurus, in which case i'd get that card too. It would connect to a wireless lan which connects to the net with 512k ADSL. What speeds would I get on the zaurus? |
| 21:00.29 | imeadiate | 5500 |
| 21:02.29 | Bovine | in theory upto 11Mbit |
| 21:02.47 | Bovine | but you'd be a tad limited by the 512k DSL line :P |
| 21:07.52 | __darius_ | heh, my zaurus can keep up with my Cable downstream |
| 21:09.05 | __darius_ | hmm, I should test network performance with the zuarus and 802.11 |
| 21:09.15 | __darius_ | The ramdisk is plenty fast to keep up right? |
| 21:09.55 | kergoth | __darius_: ARM procs tend to be pretty good at handling network traffic |
| 21:12.06 | __darius_ | Benchmarks tonight |
| 21:12.07 | __darius_ | ! |
| 21:12.53 | __darius_ | anyone know if PostgreSQL is supported on the Zaurus? :) |
| 21:13.05 | cor | heh that'd be kinda cool |
| 21:13.10 | kergoth | mysql packages are avail, dunno about postgres |
| 21:13.16 | cor | i know thekompany is selling a db package |
| 21:13.33 | __darius_ | bah, you can keep mysql |
| 21:16.07 | imeadiate | would it be possible to code GUI programs for the Zaurus in Python? |
| 21:16.25 | __darius_ | didn't picogui have python bindings? :) |
| 21:17.34 | imeadiate | one last thing I was wondering about....I have a few gigs of MP3s on a machine on my network: will I be able to play those directly on the Zaurus? |
| 21:17.55 | kergoth | imeadiate: yep. samba, nfs, icecast stream, whatever you prefer |
| 21:18.06 | __darius_ | I have the same question |
| 21:18.12 | __darius_ | is there a player that players remote streams? |
| 21:18.16 | imeadiate | now that is pretty fuckin cool. |
| 21:18.16 | __darius_ | other than mounted filesystems? |
| 21:18.16 | kergoth | yes |
| 21:19.07 | __darius_ | a free player? :) |
| 21:19.16 | kergoth | op2, xmms-e, etc |
| 21:19.23 | __darius_ | k |
| 21:19.56 | DaJoker | imeadiate: yes, you can use python on the Z |
| 21:20.04 | DaJoker | and yes, you can do GUI work.. using pyqt |
| 21:20.32 | DaJoker | see: http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=673 |
| 21:22.18 | imeadiate | thanks |
| 21:22.32 | imeadiate | this zaurus has me all hot and flustered now :) def. on the christmas list |
| 21:22.47 | imeadiate | how quickly is the 5500 gonna be made redundant, though? |
| 21:22.57 | __darius_ | redundant? |
| 21:24.14 | imeadiate | I dont want to get one only to find out that in 3 month times theres a mobile phone out that does it all |
| 21:25.14 | __darius_ | hmm, I don't know. I believe that the 5600 is coming out in the next few months though |
| 21:25.41 | __darius_ | My brother is big into high-end phones .. but he hasn't shown me a phone/pda hybrid that touches the zaurus |
| 21:25.59 | imeadiate | ericsson P800 looks pretty close, though |
| 21:26.16 | DaJoker | the zaurus is so much more flexible |
| 21:26.19 | DaJoker | just go buy one |
| 21:26.25 | __darius_ | I think that's the last one he showed me :) |
| 21:26.26 | __darius_ | URL? |
| 21:26.36 | DaJoker | if you are that worried about it, then don't even buy electronics |
| 21:26.56 | DaJoker | cuz there always is something bigger and better coming along 6 months from now |
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| 21:27.17 | __darius_ | true, but I don't think the P800 held much on the PDA side |
| 21:27.22 | treke | thats just the nature of the devices |
| 21:27.35 | __darius_ | damnit, what's the url for p800 site/specs? |
| 21:27.37 | Johnmcl7 | I'm not that impressed with the P800 |
| 21:28.04 | Johnmcl7 | I would rather have a small phone, and a full functional PDA |
| 21:28.20 | __darius_ | I understand the appeal and choice you have to make with a pda/phone hybrid |
| 21:28.23 | imeadiate | __darius_: http://www.sonyericsson.com/uk/spg.jsp?page=P800_explore&B=ie&PID=9940&LM=PSM_V&gal= |
| 21:28.30 | __darius_ | but p800 doesn't hold up against zaurus as a pda |
| 21:28.59 | __darius_ | yep, that's the one |
| 21:29.12 | Johnmcl7 | I agree |
| 21:29.19 | imeadiate | thing for me is that i primarily wanna use the zaurus as a remote control for my MP3 box......and it doesnt look like were gonna get free net access on phones for a while |
| 21:29.34 | Johnmcl7 | The xda is really the only successful hybrid from what I've seen |
| 21:29.44 | Johnmcl7 | The Jornada 928 seems to have flopped |
| 21:29.58 | Johnmcl7 | And the xda is pretty limited as well, no CF slot |
| 21:30.02 | __darius_ | does the p800 support real html rendering or just wap crap? |
| 21:30.08 | imeadiate | real |
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| 21:30.13 | Johnmcl7 | Yeah, should be real |
| 21:30.17 | __darius_ | I see WAP on their page |
| 21:30.23 | Johnmcl7 | the development for symbian apps seems to be doing quite well |
| 21:30.29 | Johnmcl7 | From what I've seen on the 7650 |
| 21:30.36 | __darius_ | The P800 is fully equipped to deal with today’s information environment. It's capable of browsing content securely using: |
| 21:30.36 | __darius_ | # WAP |
| 21:30.36 | __darius_ | # WWW |
| 21:30.36 | __darius_ | # cHTML |
| 21:30.37 | __darius_ | # Backup media |
| 21:30.48 | Johnmcl7 | Certainly a lot better than the stinger powered SPV |
| 21:30.55 | Johnmcl7 | Which looks dead in the water |
| 21:31.10 | imeadiate | the browser even does java applets |
| 21:31.23 | __darius_ | now, I don't know if there's a GPRS card for Zaurus .. that would be cool |
| 21:31.42 | __darius_ | heh, if you want java .. look at the Jeode demo on the Zaurus |
| 21:31.43 | Johnmcl7 | There is a CF gprs card now out...but no support for the Z yet I don't think :/ |
| 21:31.59 | imeadiate | donno about where you guys live, but over here GPRS is still too expensive to start properly surfing on it, as far as im aware |
| 21:32.10 | Johnmcl7 | gprs is no use for surfing here either |
| 21:32.25 | Johnmcl7 | *far* too expensive |
| 21:32.29 | Johnmcl7 | Are you in the UK? |
| 21:32.33 | __darius_ | Depends on whether your company is paying for it or not :) |
| 21:32.36 | Johnmcl7 | Hehe |
| 21:32.38 | Johnmcl7 | Good point! |
| 21:32.53 | Johnmcl7 | In my case, sadly not though |
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| 21:33.10 | imeadiate | does the browser on the Zaurus support SSL, btw? |
| 21:33.14 | __darius_ | I don't derive real HTML rendering out of what they're saying |
| 21:33.16 | __darius_ | yes |
| 21:33.32 | guised | is anyone using xmms-embedded? |
| 21:33.34 | numatrix | imeadiate: yes; opera does |
| 21:33.39 | Johnmcl7 | If it doesn't support it out of the box, there should be a symbian app for it |
| 21:33.43 | numatrix | imeadiate: and links-ssl obviously does as well. |
| 21:34.02 | kolla | guised: yep |
| 21:34.05 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | can anyone help me?... when i put the z into the usb docking station it sets its ip to default.. why is that? |
| 21:34.37 | __darius_ | and most important of all, can you run apache on the p800?? :) |
| 21:34.51 | imeadiate | hehe |
| 21:34.59 | __darius_ | it supports PersonalJava, that's good |
| 21:35.08 | __darius_ | what kind of processor in it?: |
| 21:35.10 | imeadiate | how much battery time would I get using opera to surf over a wireless LAN? |
| 21:35.20 | __darius_ | 1 hour |
| 21:35.24 | SillyZ | Phazeman email server is up |
| 21:35.34 | __darius_ | the 802.11 cards rape the battery |
| 21:35.45 | imeadiate | id go so far as to call that an assraping! |
| 21:35.52 | __darius_ | heh, yeah |
| 21:35.59 | __darius_ | it was a bit dissapointing |
| 21:36.10 | __darius_ | in fact, battery life is generally listed as one of the cons for a Zaurus |
| 21:36.25 | __darius_ | the 5600 (coming out relatively soon) appears to have a better battery |
| 21:36.37 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | anyone? |
| 21:36.44 | kolla | yes, but how much is swollowed by the Xscale? |
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| 21:36.49 | kolla | swallowed |
| 21:36.55 | __darius_ | kolla: good point |
| 21:37.12 | imeadiate | how much is the 5600 gonna cost? |
| 21:37.26 | __darius_ | got me |
| 21:38.08 | benmeyer | Hasn't been anounced yet |
| 21:38.19 | benmeyer | but guestumets put it at around $500 |
| 21:38.35 | benmeyer | ibot SL-5600 |
| 21:38.37 | | hmm... sl-5600 is the newest zaurus, announced Nov12. More info available at http://www.sharpusa.com/products/FunctionPressReleases/0,1079,32,00.html and http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1016,00.html and photos available at http://psifertex.com/gallery/sl5600, or http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1027,00.html |
| 21:38.42 | kolla | think I would rather buy one of those new ipaqs now though |
| 21:38.58 | kolla | buildt in wlan and bluetooth |
| 21:39.18 | __darius_ | attractive, but I won't give up my linux compatibility for it :) |
| 21:40.12 | TheMasterMind1 | whoa.. built in BT and wlan? |
| 21:40.27 | kolla | yes |
| 21:40.45 | __darius_ | does it have an open memory slot and CF slot? |
| 21:41.02 | TheMasterMind1 | too bad ipaq's are such shit |
| 21:41.21 | TheMasterMind1 | they look ugly, they're bulky and you gotta change the bootloader and stuff |
| 21:41.24 | imeadiate | toshiba e740 is nice |
| 21:41.24 | __darius_ | heh, maybe OpenZaurus needs to start porting to other hardwrae :) |
| 21:41.37 | treke | __darius_: Ipaq is linux compatible |
| 21:41.48 | treke | kolla: oh? I hadnt heard of those |
| 21:42.15 | __darius_ | treke: is there a nice user/PDA friendly rom for it? |
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| 21:42.49 | treke | __darius_: No |
| 21:42.52 | Johnmcl7 | No keyboard on the Ipaq |
| 21:43.05 | Johnmcl7 | A brilliant feature on the Z I think |
| 21:43.10 | __darius_ | I can almost go without the keyboard now :) |
| 21:43.15 | Johnmcl7 | What do you use? |
| 21:43.28 | Johnmcl7 | I really like the Z design |
| 21:43.30 | __darius_ | I've learned to use the handwriting recognition pretty well |
| 21:43.33 | Johnmcl7 | Ah right |
| 21:43.34 | treke | I'll have to make do with a dual cf sleeve ipaq |
| 21:43.44 | Johnmcl7 | I was pretty good on the Palm |
| 21:43.48 | Johnmcl7 | I just prefer the keyboard |
| 21:43.49 | BZFlagNotCTO | treke: that's dual pcmcia |
| 21:43.56 | treke | BZFlagNotCTO: or dual cf |
| 21:44.04 | __darius_ | how do you get ctrl-C through handwriting recognition though? :) |
| 21:44.08 | BZFlagNotCTO | huh? who sells a dual cf? |
| 21:44.19 | treke | someone |
| 21:44.34 | treke | dont remember the name. its a pi symbol like logo |
| 21:44.53 | imeadiate | __darius__: You know how you said you only get 1h on wireless...is it possible to turn the wireless of when the card is in? |
| 21:45.04 | treke | BZFlagNotCTO: http://www.pitech.com/hardware/iCFCF/ipCFCF_index.htm |
| 21:45.29 | __darius_ | imeadiate: Don't know for sure |
| 21:46.04 | BZFlagNotCTO | http://www.nexian.com/product/nexipak.asp wild. |
| 21:46.06 | imeadiate | if not, thats pretty useless....considering just get the wireless stuff is gonna cost me £200 |
| 21:46.21 | __darius_ | imeadiate: well, it comes out easy enough |
| 21:46.35 | treke | BZFlagNotCTO: those are huge :) The pitech one is thinner then the single cf sleeve from compaq :) |
| 21:46.42 | ZzzTiger | how would i install a file downloaded as .arm.gz ? (micq) |
| 21:47.09 | __darius_ | imeadiate: I know you can "bring it down" from the command line .. but I don't know if that actually affects power drain |
| 21:48.00 | imeadiate | shit.....if im listening to MP3s over a WLAN its gonna last like what, half an hour? |
| 21:48.17 | __darius_ | don't know, haven't tried that yet :) |
| 21:49.05 | BZFlagNotCTO | treke: even cooler. ah, but not additional battery. |
| 21:49.12 | __darius_ | mind you, I've never gotten to the point where the battery has run dead... I have a lot of stuff on ramdisk while I'm waiting for my memory card to be delivered .. and I don't want to lose anything |
| 21:49.36 | treke | BZFlagNotCTO: yeah, downside. I can still listen to streaming mp3s for 2 hours :) |
| 21:50.26 | treke | BZFlagNotCTO: I take it you got cut in the Lineo merger? |
| 21:50.56 | kolla | iPAQ h5455 is the one with BT an wlan built in |
| 21:51.03 | Com[Plex] | :< |
| 21:51.03 | BZFlagNotCTO | need an app that loads one mp3 into ram, then shutsdown the slots, plays till almost the end, wakes up and copies the next one before it's needed. later rinse repeat. |
| 21:51.21 | Com[Plex] | still nothing on my package kergoth |
| 21:51.28 | __darius_ | sounds like something hackable with a linux based pda :) |
| 21:51.42 | BZFlagNotCTO | treke: I've not been offered employment, likely to be offered contract work. |
| 21:52.17 | kolla | benmeyer: did you get that ppp support in the new net prefs done? |
| 21:52.38 | benmeyer | nope |
| 21:52.40 | Com[Plex] | I fell asleep in my chair, and I had a dream that I woke up and groggily clicked refresh and saw the words "delivered" on the tracking page.. much to my dismay |
| 21:53.06 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: hahaha |
| 21:53.09 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: sorry, i couldnt help it |
| 21:55.14 | benmeyer | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3637903027.html |
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| 21:57.06 | Johnmcl7 | Woah |
| 21:57.09 | Johnmcl7 | Away a long time |
| 22:01.29 | badl | any1 know how to rotate a QLCDNumber, in the same manner as one can rotate a QPainter? |
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| 22:05.44 | Com[Plex] | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.07 | Com[Plex] | -6gmt? -7 ? |
| 22:07.03 | ZzzTiger | -7 |
| 22:13.23 | Com[Plex] | hahaha |
| 22:13.25 | Com[Plex] | [17:16] <[N]Ova> hey do i plug the router itself in the computer or only the ethernet cord from router |
| 22:13.35 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:13.36 | Com[Plex] | [17:19] <Com[Plex> what is your native language nova? mayb we should try speaking that,. Ill use babelfish to translate. |
| 22:14.01 | Com[Plex] | [17:20] <[N]Ova> ok i want to use my router to link two computers. i plan to keep my router/dsl on 24/7 so whenever i start up my computer it will already be online? |
| 22:14.07 | Com[Plex] | anyone spot the question in that? |
| 22:14.20 | cor | Com[Plex]: i think Chicago is EST == -5 (cause they are two hours difference from me, I'm -7) |
| 22:14.34 | Com[Plex] | est is -5gmt. thats what im in. |
| 22:15.25 | __darius_ | Just tell him that every device needs to have ethernet |
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| 22:16.42 | cor | Com[Plex]: then Chitown is in the same TZ as you :) |
| 22:16.47 | Com[Plex] | really.. |
| 22:16.54 | cor | Com[Plex]: where are you? |
| 22:17.16 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: chicago is in central. GMT - 6. |
| 22:17.18 | kergoth | cor: |
| 22:18.07 | Com[Plex] | eyah, IM seieing that. its on the very edge |
| 22:18.30 | Com[Plex] | the time zone line goes down the mississippi river. Il is on the wet of that |
| 22:18.32 | Com[Plex] | west |
| 22:18.38 | Com[Plex] | Im in Maine |
| 22:18.56 | Com[Plex] | so its -6 actually.. |
| 22:19.24 | Com[Plex] | "[17:22] <[N]Ova> and only wire that comes from ethernet to my computer is the ethernet cord?" |
| 22:19.32 | Com[Plex] | the kid wont speak english |
| 22:19.51 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:20.18 | Com[Plex] | kids speaking espironto or some language twins teach each other. |
| 22:20.52 | cor | Com[Plex]: http://www.mackinac.org/media/images/2002/v2002-15a.gif << looks like kergoth is right |
| 22:21.08 | Com[Plex] | yeah, cor. I looked it up on a map too. |
| 22:21.24 | Com[Plex] | Ohh. me saves that gif |
| 22:21.30 | Com[Plex] | thats better than the one I had |
| 22:22.10 | cor | Com[Plex]: google.com image search baby ;) |
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| 22:46.39 | troffasky | ibot seen imeadiate |
| 22:46.41 | | imeadiate <fred@81-86-159-155.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 58m 41s ago, saying: 'shit.....if im listening to MP3s over a WLAN its gonna last like what, half an hour?'. |
| 22:47.33 | troffasky | imeadiate: I've made an external battery pack for mine for wireless work |
| 22:50.32 | __darius_ | troffasky: can you make a professional model that also recharges :) I'll buy one |
| 22:52.50 | troffasky | lol you'd be better off buying a Maha Powerbank |
| 22:53.44 | troffasky | it's like a big rechargable battery pack that comes in several voltages for connecting to digital cameras. Probably would work very well for zaurus |
| 22:53.54 | __darius_ | hmm |
| 22:54.52 | __darius_ | I'd like to see a battery that fits around the entire back of the zaurus .. probably doubling its thickness. I could live with that if it tripled battery life |
| 22:55.27 | troffasky | I made my external pack for 49p for battery holder + 38p for pp9 clips |
| 22:55.47 | troffasky | I already have the AA NiMH cells so I'm cheating... |
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| 22:55.54 | __darius_ | heh |
| 22:57.19 | troffasky | I've not used it extensively yet, but I know it at least works |
| 22:57.39 | troffasky | I'll put up a page shortly |
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| 23:00.21 | Sniper | hi |
| 23:01.55 | chouimat | hi Sniper |
| 23:02.08 | Sniper | chouimat : do you know grep? |
| 23:02.16 | chouimat | Sniper: yup |
| 23:02.34 | Sniper | how can i search for the entire string 'Reg&CODE=5' in my files? the & and = are special characters |
| 23:03.15 | Sniper | grep -r |
| 23:03.42 | chouimat | grep "Reg&CODE=5" <files> |
| 23:03.52 | Sniper | ok lemme try |
| 23:06.02 | Com[Plex] | I want this cube for xmas.. http://www.rubikshop.com/cgi-bin/shop.cgi/num=cubprf |
| 23:06.10 | Com[Plex] | someone wanna buy it for me? |
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| 23:14.18 | NetAmp | yay I got 128 CF |
| 23:14.22 | NetAmp | shweeet |
| 23:14.40 | NetAmp | The QLine game runs in a sort of modal window.. hm funny |
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| 23:30.15 | troffasky | anyone here using qpeGPS? |
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| 23:45.33 | NetAmp | *yawn* |
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| 23:51.48 | troffasky | what's a good price for the zaurus serial cable? |
| 23:51.54 | badl | free |
| 23:52.44 | troffasky | lol |
| 23:55.24 | nikki | anybody syncing their zaurus to a 2.4.20 linux box? |
| 23:57.13 | troffasky | is this that whole usb{,d}net discussion again? |
| 23:57.40 | nikki | actually, i just need to find patches to 2.4.20 |
| 23:57.55 | nikki | usbnet or usbdnet, i'll try them both |
