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| 00:03.38 | zTDT | opie Irc isnt very good |
| 00:04.33 | George- | why not? |
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| 00:24.49 | tux_mike | ugh |
| 00:24.53 | tux_mike | quite dead in here |
| 00:28.51 | treke|laptop | we can only wish |
| 00:30.46 | treke|laptop | hmmm |
| 00:31.42 | kergoth | treke|laptop: me too, I need to improve. I'm an excellent bug fixer/hacker person, but design is another ballgame |
| 00:31.45 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:33.06 | treke|laptop | I've been working at this for about 16 hours now and havent gotten much further than a crappy interface. |
| 00:36.54 | rabbit_uk_ | want me to have a look at your interface? |
| 00:46.12 | Harlekin | noda: ping |
| 00:46.57 | treke|laptop | I'd rather go home |
| 00:50.47 | noda | Harlekin: pong |
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| 00:55.44 | Harlekin | noda: 1214 |
| 00:55.49 | Harlekin | to mirror .-) |
| 00:56.18 | noda | Harlekin: Okay, sure :) |
| 00:56.32 | Harlekin | same as usual |
| 00:56.38 | Harlekin | some more startup tweaks |
| 00:56.44 | noda | Cool, is it faster or something? |
| 00:57.16 | Harlekin | it should feel faster at least |
| 00:57.24 | noda | Nice :) |
| 00:57.45 | Harlekin | and since today ipaq users can level treble and bass .-) |
| 00:58.10 | noda | Cool... |
| 00:58.42 | noda | Done :) |
| 00:58.56 | noda | http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/ has the new op2 .ipk :) |
| 00:59.10 | Harlekin | now has a right zlibg1 depend too .-) |
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| 01:25.06 | tux_mike | arg! god damnit |
| 01:25.13 | tux_mike | why won't acrobat reader run! |
| 01:27.25 | George- | run it thru strace? |
| 01:27.59 | SillyZ | evenin |
| 01:28.25 | George- | Heh, it's twenty to two in the morning here :) |
| 01:28.46 | SillyZ | << gmt-0600 |
| 01:29.18 | George- | << gmt |
| 01:30.07 | tux_mike | i can't tell what's going on through strace |
| 01:32.50 | rabbit_uk_ | george: it is? eek, didn't even notice. |
| 01:33.11 | George- | rabbit_uk_: rofl |
| 01:33.24 | George- | rabbit_uk_: it's _way_ past my bedtime |
| 01:33.57 | rabbit_uk_ | I haven't been able to sleep b4 3am this week. |
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| 03:16.21 | SillyZ | evenin Cloudchaser |
| 03:16.36 | Cloudchaser | hi SillyZ |
| 03:16.44 | SillyZ | how goes ? |
| 03:18.39 | SillyZ | welp I think ive settled in on the 64/0 rom image |
| 03:19.19 | Cloudchaser | i had a major scare here a bit ago |
| 03:19.26 | SillyZ | oh? |
| 03:19.30 | Cloudchaser | thought my laptop was finished |
| 03:19.37 | SillyZ | uhoh |
| 03:19.51 | Cloudchaser | was playing a game on the windows side |
| 03:20.02 | Cloudchaser | my screen started freaking out |
| 03:20.08 | SillyZ | ouch |
| 03:20.21 | Cloudchaser | i rebooted and got a "ready to upgrade bios" screen |
| 03:20.24 | Cloudchaser | several times |
| 03:20.27 | SillyZ | oh nice |
| 03:20.33 | Cloudchaser | so finally i downloaded the bios updater |
| 03:20.43 | Cloudchaser | turned it bakc on and it booted! |
| 03:20.48 | Cloudchaser | so i let it boot to linux |
| 03:20.52 | SillyZ | hehehe |
| 03:20.55 | SillyZ | good choice :) |
| 03:21.08 | Cloudchaser | yeah |
| 03:21.19 | Cloudchaser | downloaded windows virus scanner to that parrition |
| 03:21.25 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 03:21.28 | Cloudchaser | i'll run it tomorrow when i'm more sober |
| 03:21.31 | SillyZ | night chouimat|Zzzz |
| 03:21.32 | Cloudchaser | g'night chouimat|Zzzz |
| 03:21.42 | SillyZ | hehe' |
| 03:21.57 | SillyZ | been a nice quiet night here, mrs was out at an xmas party |
| 03:22.04 | SillyZ | just been me, the Z and LoTR |
| 03:24.10 | Cloudchaser | hehe |
| 03:26.09 | SillyZ | lotr on extended dvd :) |
| 03:26.22 | SillyZ | cant wait til wednesday , its me bday and lotr 2 towers comes out |
| 03:28.39 | Cloudchaser | :) |
| 03:28.48 | Cloudchaser | i got harry potter on my birthday |
| 03:34.02 | SillyZ | hehe |
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| 03:41.39 | dlohin | I had this really good prog for the Z. it was a calculator that had a lot of feature |
| 03:41.39 | dlohin | s |
| 03:41.45 | dlohin | it graphed |
| 03:42.00 | dlohin | it added a thing in your input select thing |
| 03:42.12 | dlohin | and I forgot the name and cant find it :-) |
| 03:42.22 | dlohin | anyone know what I am talking about |
| 03:44.00 | dlohin | I remembered it |
| 03:44.02 | dlohin | :-) |
| 03:44.05 | dlohin | Qplot |
| 03:44.09 | dlohin | nevermind |
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| 04:07.05 | aman | hello |
| 04:07.09 | aman | ibot die |
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| 04:23.07 | Zxcvb | what's going on with zauruszone.com? |
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| 05:16.22 | LordDavon | Hello everyone |
| 05:16.53 | kergoth`tv | hey LordDavon |
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| 05:34.07 | spencer_Z | hello? |
| 05:37.43 | nitup | hello |
| 05:42.26 | spencer_Z | sup |
| 05:42.28 | spencer_Z | :-) |
| 05:43.33 | nitup | not much, listening to tunes, loading gnome2 onto suse... |
| 05:44.18 | kergoth | hey spencer |
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| 05:56.36 | spencer_Z | fixing bugs |
| 05:56.38 | spencer_Z | ho hum |
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| 06:22.28 | zTDT | Are there any good web browsers for the zaurus other than opera? |
| 06:22.36 | treke|home | konqueror |
| 06:23.09 | badl | links/lynx ;) |
| 06:23.44 | zTDT | Does konqueror work with the stock system or do i need OZ? |
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| 08:17.26 | Piete | Hello all :) |
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| 08:39.51 | *** topic/#zaurus is Sharp 5000d/5500/5600/A300/C700/etc Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ || http://MyZaurus.com/ || OpenZaurus 3.0 is released! #OpenZaurus || SL-5600 announced || NEW: screenshots section on openzaurus.org || NEW: www.zaurus.com open for business, with SourceForge features! |
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| 08:51.37 | RD1 | morning :) |
| 08:52.34 | RD1 | does anyone have IP forwarding running no their zaurus? |
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| 11:12.30 | NoRemorse | heya |
| 11:24.59 | NoRemorse | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/3.1rc1/ |
| 11:25.09 | NoRemorse | ?!!! it's up?! |
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| 12:01.41 | NoRemorse | fuck opera doesnt work on 3.1rc1 |
| 12:14.00 | NoRemorse | fuck it aint 3.1rc1 hehe |
| 12:16.42 | SillyZ | hows rc1 NoRemorse? |
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| 12:21.54 | jserv | Hi, all! |
| 12:21.58 | SillyZ | morin jserv |
| 12:22.35 | jserv | I just ported Kaffe VM and its AWT to Qtopia. :-) |
| 12:22.44 | jserv | http://ccns.ncku.edu.tw/~jimchyun/qpe/qtawt-applet.png |
| 12:24.26 | jserv | It seems to work with some bug. I'll contact Kaffe developer for details, do hope to release the port soon. |
| 12:25.04 | jserv | Does anyone take interest in my efforts? |
| 12:25.39 | NoRemorse | sorry jserv but I am sure they are awesome :) |
| 12:25.48 | NoRemorse | what IS Kaffe VM? |
| 12:26.34 | jserv | NoRemorse: yes, it is Qt AWT backend for Kaffe VM. |
| 12:26.53 | nostromo | jserv: I'm interested in java for openzaurus |
| 12:27.29 | nostromo | jserv: have you needed to modify kaffe's java code? |
| 12:27.41 | nostromo | or just the awt library implementation in C? |
| 12:28.27 | jserv | nostrome: the Qt AWT backend was implemented in C++ with some C binding. |
| 12:28.49 | nostromo | NoRemorse: kaffee is a clean room open source java implementation. |
| 12:29.25 | jserv | nostrome: I made no modifications on Java library of Kaffe AWT but native part. |
| 12:29.26 | nostromo | jserv: I forgot that qt is C++ :-) |
| 12:30.13 | nostromo | OK. Nice. |
| 12:30.13 | NoRemorse | cool |
| 12:30.47 | jserv | However, Qt AWT backend for Kaffe VM could only run just a few Java AWT apps.. |
| 12:31.41 | jserv | I plan to release the test version soon, so that Zaurus/Opie developer could test it and seed feedback to me. |
| 12:32.15 | nostromo | kaffe (in my experience) does not run all AWT java programs nicely |
| 12:32.33 | nostromo | The version I tested had incomplete awt support. |
| 12:32.47 | nostromo | I had to patch it to run swing, for instance. |
| 12:33.03 | jserv | nostrome: that's true. Kaffe VM is *incomplete*. |
| 12:33.37 | jserv | nostrome: How to run Swing on Kaffe? I wonder. |
| 12:34.48 | nostromo | I did some hacks. Basically, I put the j2se jars *after* the kaffe ones, and tried to run StylePad demo. |
| 12:35.08 | nostromo | Then I patched errors *before* kaffe and Sun's classes. |
| 12:35.17 | nostromo | I iterated this for a while |
| 12:35.57 | jserv | nostromo: So, it worked after the above tricks? |
| 12:36.29 | nostromo | It worked, but it had a tendence to hang on UI events, things like this. |
| 12:37.26 | jserv | <nostrome> I also found my Qt AWT backend hang on UI events sometimes. |
| 12:38.22 | jserv | nostrome: I'm not sure if the problem resulted from Kaffe's AWT implementation. |
| 12:38.42 | nostromo | So? |
| 12:39.46 | nostromo | Say: kaffe -classpath /usr/lib/kaffe/lib/rt.jar:/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1/jre/lib/rt.jar -jar /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1/demo/jfc/Stylepad/Stylepad.jar |
| 12:39.59 | nostromo | In my linux box, it results in: |
| 12:40.08 | jserv | nostromo: So, it is really a problem for Kaffe AWT.. |
| 12:40.13 | nostromo | java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: java/lang/Boolean.valueOf(Z)Ljava/lang/Boolean; |
| 12:40.41 | nostromo | You add a Boolean.valueOf(Boolean) to kaffe, try again, and so no. |
| 12:41.18 | nostromo | Sorry a Boolean.valueOf() method that returns a Boolean. |
| 12:43.52 | nostromo | In jdk 1.3.1 it results in a java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: java/awt/EventQueue.isDispatchThread()Z |
| 12:43.58 | nostromo | I did the original experiment with jdk1.3 |
| 12:44.44 | jserv | nostrome: any solution? |
| 12:45.02 | nostromo | I was toying, really, when I did it. |
| 12:45.09 | jserv | nostrome: Do you use Kaffe 1.7 CVS? |
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| 12:46.05 | nostromo | Now I'm using kaffe Version 1.0.7 |
| 12:46.48 | jserv | nostromo: sorry, I meant Kaffe 1.0.7 CVS. |
| 12:47.02 | nostromo | I'm using release version |
| 12:48.26 | nostromo | Sorry, I have to leave. |
| 12:48.33 | nostromo | See you around here. |
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| 12:56.38 | SillyZ | blasted usb |
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| 15:03.34 | George- | Hello |
| 15:05.03 | SillyZ | mornin George- |
| 15:05.29 | George- | hi SillyZ |
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| 15:38.25 | George|AFK | wb SillyZ |
| 15:38.28 | SillyZ | re re |
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| 16:00.00 | Com[Plex] | UPS LSOT MY ZAURUS |
| 16:00.03 | Com[Plex] | AARGH!! |
| 16:00.13 | George- | ? |
| 16:00.39 | noda | Bastards. At least YOU havne't gotten your credit card stolen. |
| 16:00.43 | noda | ...twice. |
| 16:00.46 | Com[Plex] | I mailed my z in for a reflash, and fuckign UPS LOST it |
| 16:00.58 | Com[Plex] | *sigh* |
| 16:01.08 | George- | Com[Plex]: Eat them |
| 16:01.08 | ZzzGogo | LOST IT?? |
| 16:01.15 | Com[Plex] | they fuckign LOST it |
| 16:01.26 | ZzzGogo | indured? |
| 16:01.30 | ZzzGogo | insured |
| 16:01.54 | Com[Plex] | I just decided to track the fucking thing, and see that its showing up as lost in transit. I called them, and they said they wll call em back |
| 16:02.07 | Com[Plex] | 3day select, should have been there wednesday morning |
| 16:02.17 | ZzzGogo | could be better deal for you than them finding it... |
| 16:02.22 | Com[Plex] | insured for 100$ by default |
| 16:02.34 | ZzzGogo | 100 :( |
| 16:02.44 | ZzzGogo | thats no better deal... |
| 16:02.49 | Com[Plex] | BASTARDS! |
| 16:03.04 | Com[Plex] | this is why I HATE ups |
| 16:03.08 | ZzzGogo | did u ask sharp what the reflash would cost? |
| 16:03.12 | Com[Plex] | Ill never ship something ups as long as I live |
| 16:03.18 | Com[Plex] | reflash = free |
| 16:03.23 | ZzzGogo | cool |
| 16:03.35 | noda | Com[Plex]: It *is* guaranteed though, right? i.e., you don't lose whatever the Z cost? |
| 16:03.37 | ZzzGogo | with warranty or just like that? |
| 16:03.45 | Com[Plex] | yeah, - and to make That even better, she said I would have my zaurus back in 3-5 days after they receive it |
| 16:03.50 | Com[Plex] | just like that |
| 16:04.07 | Com[Plex] | noda, no, I get 100$ if they lose it |
| 16:04.10 | ZzzGogo | even the green spraypanted one?! :) |
| 16:04.14 | Com[Plex] | thats what ":insurance" is fore |
| 16:04.24 | Com[Plex] | hope so zz |
| 16:04.38 | ZzzGogo | complex: did u have to put in a copy of the bill? |
| 16:04.39 | noda | Com[Plex]: wtf... one of the employees probably stole it! |
| 16:04.46 | Com[Plex] | no ZzzGogo |
| 16:04.50 | ZzzGogo | noda. dont matter :( |
| 16:05.02 | Com[Plex] | noda, no, no one saw it, I shipped it in a brown box |
| 16:05.04 | ZzzGogo | Com[Plex] thats cool... |
| 16:05.16 | ZzzGogo | ups brown?! |
| 16:05.17 | Com[Plex] | I see trackiing info up till yesterday |
| 16:05.25 | noda | Well, shipping a relatively small brown box to Sharp USA... that's bound to catch *somebody*'s eye. |
| 16:05.25 | Com[Plex] | is there any other color zz ? |
| 16:05.33 | ZzzGogo | lat waypoint is 'nirvana' |
| 16:05.35 | Com[Plex] | noda "sharp repair center" |
| 16:05.53 | ZzzGogo | complex not that i know :) |
| 16:06.03 | Com[Plex] | I see a "incorectly routed to blah blah facility" and some other crap |
| 16:06.11 | Com[Plex] | this is why I hate ups. |
| 16:06.30 | ZzzGogo | complex: if they alreday know THAT... they#re gonna find it... |
| 16:06.40 | ZzzGogo | just takes longer... |
| 16:06.43 | Com[Plex] | there service sucks. and they dont give a fuck. - but would you care about your job if they made you dress in a shitty brown outfit, driving a shitty brown truck all day? |
| 16:06.59 | ZzzGogo | maybe u could get u'r money back for them exceeding the timelimit of 3 days or so... |
| 16:07.16 | Com[Plex] | yeah, get this zz. - I cant get my refund until the package is delivered |
| 16:07.21 | Com[Plex] | no fucking kidding |
| 16:07.35 | Com[Plex] | I have to wait till its delivered before I can make a claim |
| 16:07.41 | ZzzGogo | complex: well at leastu get a refund at all! |
| 16:07.43 | noda | Whoa, zaurus.com is much uglier than sf.net! :) |
| 16:07.47 | Com[Plex] | 8$ |
| 16:07.49 | ZzzGogo | lol |
| 16:07.54 | Com[Plex] | Ill bnever ship ups agaion |
| 16:07.55 | ZzzGogo | that sucks |
| 16:08.01 | ZzzGogo | fedex |
| 16:08.09 | ZzzGogo | private courier ;) |
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| 16:08.19 | noda | Drive up and give it to them personally :) |
| 16:08.20 | Harlekin | hi * |
| 16:08.23 | noda | Harlekin: Moo :) |
| 16:08.24 | Com[Plex] | yeah. no kidding |
| 16:08.24 | ZzzGogo | maybe u should hire some kgb.agent next time |
| 16:08.28 | Harlekin | noda: hey, did you test it? |
| 16:08.42 | noda | Harlekin: No, my Z is still broken. I'm waiting for 3.1rc1 to come out :) |
| 16:08.44 | Com[Plex] | Im gonna blow up the next ups truck I see |
| 16:08.53 | ZzzGogo | my Z is broken, too :) |
| 16:08.56 | Com[Plex] | nmoda, whats wrong with our z ?? |
| 16:09.00 | Com[Plex] | omg! |
| 16:09.12 | Com[Plex] | whats wrong with all your z's? |
| 16:09.23 | ZzzGogo | mine hangs with the reboot-without-suspend bug... |
| 16:09.24 | noda | My Z? I flashed to broken initrd's to help test :) |
| 16:09.31 | ZzzGogo | until i get a cf... :( |
| 16:09.38 | Com[Plex] | :< |
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| 16:09.42 | noda | opie doesn't start. I can SSH in though... and I think if I took a proper qte it'd work. |
| 16:09.52 | ZzzGogo | noda: u're da man :) the community should be thankful *g* |
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| 16:10.02 | noda | Actually, I'm gonna try copying libqte over :) |
| 16:10.12 | Com[Plex] | noda, coudlnt you just reflash? |
| 16:10.21 | Com[Plex] | ZzzGogo: as if you dont have a cf card |
| 16:10.28 | ZzzGogo | mine hangs at : INIT version 2.85 booting... or so :) |
| 16:10.31 | noda | Com[Plex]: Yes, but I'm too lazy, I'm waiting for 3.1rc1 |
| 16:10.37 | noda | 2.85? When did THAT come out? |
| 16:10.59 | ZzzGogo | complex: i do.. but at home... an this weekend im at my parents.. :(( i broke it the first day i got here... :( |
| 16:11.10 | ZzzGogo | noda: not, yet :) |
| 16:11.20 | Com[Plex] | aahh, shit zz |
| 16:11.23 | Com[Plex] | that sucks balls |
| 16:11.26 | ZzzGogo | oh yes... |
| 16:11.33 | ZzzGogo | 3 days wothout z |
| 16:11.38 | Com[Plex] | go to walmart, buy one, use it to flash, take it right back say its not compatable |
| 16:11.50 | ZzzGogo | and a dsl flatrate at my parents' .. that really sack :( |
| 16:11.55 | ZzzGogo | lol |
| 16:12.07 | ZzzGogo | oh yeah... we een have a walmart in berlin... |
| 16:12.17 | Com[Plex] | oh. your not in the usa |
| 16:12.18 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 16:12.23 | ZzzGogo | heehee |
| 16:12.26 | ZzzGogo | berlin, germany |
| 16:12.37 | ZzzGogo | but i've seen one anyways |
| 16:13.28 | ZzzGogo | the only shop where they try to hold up us standards.. like ppl bag your groceries... thats fuckin weird... no one else would ever do that ... |
| 16:14.07 | noda | ...wow. Replacing libqte actually solved the problem :) |
| 16:14.15 | Com[Plex] | nice! |
| 16:14.25 | noda | Now to test out op2 for harlekin :) |
| 16:14.43 | ZzzGogo | node: u'll brick u'r zz tonite :) |
| 16:14.50 | ZzzGogo | -z |
| 16:15.18 | noda | Yep! :) |
| 16:15.46 | h2o|gogo | *gone* |
| 16:18.03 | XavierXeon | where can i find a version if ipkg-make-index that deals with ar'd ipks ? |
| 16:18.40 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:18.53 | XavierXeon | hi |
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| 16:24.26 | noda | Harlekin: Right! op2 is set up :) |
| 16:24.39 | Harlekin | ? |
| 16:24.49 | noda | I can test it now :) |
| 16:25.01 | Harlekin | ah |
| 16:25.02 | Harlekin | ,-) |
| 16:25.08 | alexw | Hi all. Could some one help me with a cross compiling issue I have? I'm trying to build gdbms for the Zaurus. |
| 16:26.15 | noda | Harlekin: The progress slider at the bottom-left doesn't slide across anything... there's no bar, just the indicator :) |
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| 16:26.56 | Harlekin | progress slider? |
| 16:27.07 | noda | You know, how far through your song you are. To the left of the time. |
| 16:27.18 | Harlekin | ah |
| 16:27.19 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 16:27.23 | Harlekin | noda: which style? |
| 16:27.27 | noda | Default |
| 16:27.39 | Harlekin | can you make a screenshot? |
| 16:27.51 | noda | Sure, I'll install vncserver :) |
| 16:28.09 | noda | Harlekin: It seems faster too, btw - nice :) |
| 16:28.25 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 16:29.04 | noda | Dammit, what packages do I need for vncserver in opie? :) |
| 16:29.07 | noda | s/opie/oz |
| 16:29.23 | lsmith | fbvncserver? |
| 16:29.28 | noda | found it - thanks :) |
| 16:29.36 | Harlekin | use the screenshotapplet |
| 16:29.42 | Harlekin | is faster |
| 16:29.42 | lsmith | i had problems with that package though |
| 16:29.51 | lsmith | always had to start fbvncinput manually |
| 16:29.53 | noda | Yeah, but I don't like it :) |
| 16:29.53 | Harlekin | or scap it |
| 16:30.06 | noda | scap? |
| 16:30.21 | Harlekin | www.handhelds.org/scap |
| 16:30.43 | noda | Oh fun :) |
| 16:32.40 | noda | http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/op2.png |
| 16:32.51 | chouimat | woohooo! a 13MB compressed to 2.7MB |
| 16:33.00 | noda | chouimat: html? :) |
| 16:33.11 | chouimat | noda: pdf to djvu |
| 16:33.19 | noda | AH, yeah, pdfs compress well too :) |
| 16:33.43 | chouimat | noda: a 13MB pdf to a 2.7MB djvu one |
| 16:33.49 | tronical | noda: does it work if you use a different style? |
| 16:33.54 | tronical | noda: (like the qpe style) |
| 16:34.09 | noda | rofl, where I used to work a company showed off a $40,000 piece of software that would archive everything as PDFs.... we said no, and we put $1000 worth of time into our own, which was better :) |
| 16:34.19 | noda | tronical: Are there other styles installed by default? Where do I get them if not? :) |
| 16:35.07 | tronical | noda: I dunno, but from the screenshot it doens't look like the default style :) |
| 16:35.26 | tronical | noda: hm, can you make a screenshot of the playlist widget? (might be easier to see what the style is then) |
| 16:36.04 | noda | tronical: Sure... |
| 16:36.15 | chouimat | noda: pdf is good for certain applycation but djvu is for scanned doc and as an ebook format for the z it's ok :) |
| 16:36.45 | noda | http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/op2-2.png |
| 16:36.53 | noda | chouimat: Cool :) |
| 16:38.49 | tronical | noda: ah! this looks like the flat style. does it look better if you select the qpe style in the appearance app? |
| 16:39.16 | noda | tronical: Will check. |
| 16:39.33 | Harlekin | tronical: "window deco" |
| 16:39.38 | Harlekin | tronical: is independant from style |
| 16:39.51 | noda | Harlekin: It is the flat style though :) |
| 16:39.56 | Harlekin | that too |
| 16:39.59 | Harlekin | and that looks like that |
| 16:40.02 | Harlekin | ugly .-) |
| 16:40.14 | noda | Sure enough :) |
| 16:40.16 | tronical | Harlekin: what is why I asked for the second screenshot :) |
| 16:40.17 | noda | Yep, that's why... |
| 16:40.38 | noda | Was it just that the slider is black? |
| 16:41.15 | chouimat | noda: all page are store as a compressed image |
| 16:41.32 | noda | chouimat: Cool |
| 16:42.36 | noda | Harlekin: it doesn't save my playlist on exit... |
| 16:43.25 | noda | That's nothing new but it still sucks. It does load the last playlist I saved though. |
| 16:43.43 | noda | I think it should be like xmms, which saves its own playlist :) |
| 16:44.44 | chouimat | noda: the djvulibre library don't have a pdf converter, so you need to extract all pages to pbm , converter them and bundle them into a document |
| 16:45.00 | noda | chouimat: Ah. |
| 16:45.24 | chouimat | noda: a little manipulation but it work :) |
| 16:46.02 | chouimat | noda: same for postscript doc |
| 16:46.18 | noda | Harlekin: Hey, how much cpu do you think it takes to have that scrolling text at the top of the screen? Could that be optional? (I like scrolling text as much as I like animated gifs) |
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| 16:51.39 | Harlekin | Neo|Work: not much cpu |
| 16:51.41 | Harlekin | arg |
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| 16:55.33 | Harlekin | noda: not much cpu |
| 16:56.46 | noda | Harlekin: Still, it'd be nice to have the option not to scroll :) |
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| 16:56.56 | Harlekin | ok |
| 16:57.09 | noda | Harlekin: Also: When I'm running op2, my 'system info' has 'Application Usage' at around 20%, which is good... but it also has "System usage" around 20%. |
| 16:57.19 | noda | Which makes me wonder what happened to the other 60%) |
| 16:57.50 | Harlekin | ? |
| 16:58.07 | noda | Harlekin: Run op2, play an mp3 and go into 'system info'... |
| 16:58.18 | noda | Harlekin: I dunno if that's op2 or not, but it's weird :) |
| 16:58.24 | Harlekin | i what do you mean with missing 60 |
| 16:58.35 | noda | Well usually 'system usage' is around 90%... |
| 16:58.35 | Harlekin | system is normally not running at 100% cpu |
| 16:58.38 | Harlekin | ? |
| 16:58.45 | kergoth`bbl | Harlekin: on the zaurus, in 2.4.6, kapm-idled always appears to be using the rest of the available cpu |
| 16:58.46 | noda | Oh. This must be zaurus-specific :) |
| 16:58.56 | noda | Bah :P |
| 16:58.57 | kergoth`bbl | Harlekin: something to do with power management, its quite weird. |
| 16:59.04 | Harlekin | kergoth`bbl: oh |
| 16:59.07 | Harlekin | kergoth`bbl: sounds wrong |
| 16:59.16 | kergoth`bbl | Harlekin: /me shrugs |
| 16:59.19 | noda | kergoth`bbl: So, the bug is finally fixed, right? :) |
| 16:59.19 | Harlekin | either wrong read or cpu is really burning all the time |
| 16:59.32 | kergoth`bbl | Harlekin: i suspect the former. i think its just reporting weirdly. |
| 16:59.33 | noda | Judging by the way my battery's dying, I'd say the latter. |
| 16:59.38 | kergoth`bbl | hah |
| 16:59.57 | noda | It seems with tmm1's latest image it drains battery faster than it should... |
| 17:00.06 | alexw | perhaps kapm-ideld is the linux equivalent of Windows' System Idle Process, ie somthing that runs when there's nothing to do |
| 17:00.10 | kergoth`bbl | Harlekin: gesture. lift shoulders up slightly in a gesture of 'i dont know' |
| 17:00.13 | kergoth`bbl | alexw: no. |
| 17:00.16 | kergoth`bbl | alexw: it isnt |
| 17:00.16 | Harlekin | ah |
| 17:00.43 | noda | It's just a hungry process! It eats your CPU! :) |
| 17:00.51 | noda | *munch munch* |
| 17:00.52 | kergoth`bbl | bah |
| 17:00.56 | alexw | kergoth`bbl: ok, just a guesstimate :) |
| 17:01.05 | noda | kergoth`bbl: It should work :) |
| 17:01.22 | kergoth`bbl | noda: murphy's law being what it is, it probably wont |
| 17:01.25 | noda | kergoth`bbl: I copied my qt2 library onto tmm1's dead image (opie segfaulted on start) and everytihng worked great :) |
| 17:01.27 | noda | kergoth`bbl: lol, right :) |
| 17:01.37 | kergoth`bbl | noda: thats cool. well here's hoping |
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| 17:02.07 | kergoth`bbl | noda: dood, we've been saying 'this will be 3.1rc1' for like 3 days |
| 17:02.08 | kergoth`bbl | noda: hehe |
| 17:02.18 | noda | lol |
| 17:02.27 | kergoth`bbl | Harlekin: latest qt/e snapshot appears to segfault in QGList::append() (20021213) |
| 17:02.31 | noda | Aptly named release :) |
| 17:02.36 | kergoth`bbl | noda: indeed |
| 17:02.38 | Harlekin | kergoth`bbl: /me did not try so new |
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| 17:02.57 | kergoth`bbl | Harlekin: i wish tt left old snapshots somewhere |
| 17:03.28 | noda | Maybe we could mirror them... |
| 17:03.46 | kergoth`bbl | noda: mirroring all the sources is a possibility.. |
| 17:03.52 | kergoth`bbl | noda: particularly for when the upstream sites drop |
| 17:03.59 | noda | Well, I dunno about ALL of them... but the ones that never work :) |
| 17:04.01 | kergoth`bbl | noda: but buildroot needs mirror handling first :) |
| 17:04.05 | noda | Heh :) |
| 17:04.21 | noda | After all, where would we mirror them? sf.net imposes a 100mb limit. |
| 17:04.53 | kergoth`bbl | good point |
| 17:04.59 | kergoth`bbl | i'm certain we'd have volunteers though |
| 17:05.09 | kergoth`bbl | OZ users looking for ways to contribute |
| 17:05.39 | noda | kergoth`bbl: Hey, mind if I put the oz db backups in the openzaurus group dir somewhere? I've been putting 'em in my home dir, which is pretty stupid :) |
| 17:05.50 | noda | That's true. |
| 17:05.53 | kergoth`bbl | noda: feel free |
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| 17:06.55 | kergoth | hey |
| 17:06.58 | kergoth | man |
| 17:07.04 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.18 | noda | Done :) |
| 17:08.14 | cfish | Hello! And I need the motivation to compile Opie just another time ... at the moment it hangs with as Segfault ... ;-) |
| 17:08.50 | noda | cfish: Just use qte beta2. |
| 17:09.10 | noda | If you want I'll put up my .so so you don't have to compile anything :) |
| 17:10.02 | cfish | noda: well I did ... tink the problem is somewhere in one of the libraries, needed for compiling (freetype, zlib, ...), because .. |
| 17:10.43 | cfish | I just copied the .so form the familiar .ipks and the includes form my debian x86-dist .. |
| 17:10.59 | noda | Ah. |
| 17:11.05 | noda | Not the same problem everyone else has been having I guess :) |
| 17:11.11 | noda | cfish: You are using the buildroot? :) |
| 17:11.34 | cfish | noda: buildroot?? |
| 17:11.45 | noda | cfish: kergoth's buildroot... |
| 17:11.47 | noda | ibot oz bk |
| 17:11.53 | | rumour has it, oz bk is bk clone http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/openzaurus .config; make oldconfig; make or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you don't want to use bk |
| 17:12.05 | noda | Handles all the downloading and compiling and dependencies and stuff :) |
| 17:12.56 | kergoth | cfish: you can use it to build OZ in its entirety from source. this includes opie |
| 17:12.56 | cfish | noda: ah well, this was another try, today .. it took about 6 hours on my athlon 600 ... |
| 17:13.07 | noda | cfish: Fun :) |
| 17:13.32 | cfish | noda: make seems to pass, put make image hangs with ... |
| 17:13.35 | noda | 6 hours wasted :)... I don't think so though. |
| 17:13.39 | noda | Why not run qpe with gdb? |
| 17:14.10 | cfish | pkg_run_script: `/home/fishbach/zaurus/OZ/buildroot-oz/output/rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/info/opie-cardmon.postinst configure' failed: Illegal seek. |
| 17:14.11 | cfish | ERROR: opie-cardmon.postinst returned 127 |
| 17:14.11 | cfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.38 | kergoth | cfish: harmless |
| 17:15.11 | cfish | n.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qcop: No such file or directory |
| 17:15.27 | noda | kergoth: Oh... btw, should the "stable: 3.0" in the left of oz.org point to the changelog or the download page? |
| 17:15.43 | kergoth | noda: hmm, good question |
| 17:16.01 | noda | Right now it points to the changelog, but I'm thinking like a typical user... I think it should link to download. |
| 17:16.51 | kergoth | noda: yeah, probably. make it go to dl then |
| 17:17.00 | kergoth | Reconfiguring packages installed to root.... |
| 17:18.23 | noda | There we go, points to download page :) |
| 17:18.32 | kergoth | WOO |
| 17:18.37 | kergoth | OZ3.1RC1 LIVES |
| 17:18.39 | kergoth | THE DEVIL LIVES! |
| 17:18.40 | noda | !!! |
| 17:18.41 | kergoth | muahaha |
| 17:18.42 | noda | WOO! |
| 17:18.47 | noda | Three cheers for satan! |
| 17:18.51 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:19.12 | noda | Hey, that could be the first real news item too :) |
| 17:19.17 | kergoth | ooo |
| 17:19.20 | kergoth | sysinfo looks spiffy |
| 17:19.21 | kergoth | nice icon |
| 17:19.24 | kergoth | OpenZaurus |
| 17:19.26 | kergoth | Version: 3.1rc1 |
| 17:19.31 | kergoth | Model: Zaurus SL-5500 |
| 17:19.31 | noda | Speaking of which, should news be the first page shown instead of overview? |
| 17:19.35 | kergoth | Vendor: OpenZaurus Team |
| 17:19.40 | noda | :) |
| 17:19.46 | kergoth | noda: yes, i was thinking that myself yesterday |
| 17:19.58 | noda | I figured I'd hold off until there was some news :) |
| 17:20.08 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:20.14 | kergoth | i figured once we had news id talk to you about it |
| 17:20.17 | kergoth | so guess we're on the same page |
| 17:20.18 | noda | rofl |
| 17:20.19 | kergoth | heheh |
| 17:20.35 | noda | Okay, um... you can write up the news item, I'll change it in cvs then update when you're done :) |
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| 17:20.58 | kergoth | noda: will do |
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| 17:23.25 | noda | kergoth: Okay, just give the word and I'll update :) |
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| 17:31.48 | cfish | noda: witch cross-compiler du you suggest 2.95.2 from Sharp.jp or 2.95.3, I found on openzaurus.org? |
| 17:32.13 | kergoth | cfish: 2.95.3. there are some builds that will fail with 2.95.2 from sharp |
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| 17:32.23 | noda | ibot xcompile |
| 17:32.26 | noda | <-- that one :) |
| 17:32.31 | noda | ... |
| 17:32.37 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:32.40 | kergoth | ibot: ping |
| 17:32.42 | | pong |
| 17:32.46 | noda | ibot xcompile |
| 17:32.48 | kergoth | ibot: oz toolchain |
| 17:32.50 | | well, oz toolchain is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 17:32.52 | cfish | noda: and which qte? I tried with snapshot-20021213. Is it better to use 2.3.4-beta2? |
| 17:33.03 | kergoth | cfish: use beta2 |
| 17:33.12 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 17:40.30 | chouimat | hi George- |
| 17:40.53 | kergoth | hey chouimat, George- |
| 17:40.54 | cfish | ok, before I try again: What is the "official" way to get the dev-libraries (freetype6, jpeg62, pam0g, png2, uuid, xine, zlib1)? |
| 17:41.00 | kergoth | cfish: ? |
| 17:41.05 | kergoth | cfish: buildroot builds them all for you |
| 17:41.11 | kergoth | cfish: if you're using it :) |
| 17:41.19 | kergoth | it'll yank them all and build all dependencies |
| 17:41.48 | alexw | can anyone tell me if openzaurus includes a package for gdbm? |
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| 17:50.27 | cfish | kergoth: I decided not to install everyting on Zaurus, before everything runs as I expect. So I tryed to compile Opie (only) and run it via NFS. It segfaults, as I told. How can I manage this with buildroot? |
| 17:51.39 | kergoth | cfish: buildroot builds an entire oz image |
| 17:51.46 | kergoth | cfish: including a 'rootfs' |
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| 17:51.53 | kergoth | cfish: from which you could chroot to and run apps |
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| 17:53.51 | noda | Harlekin: I've been listening to mp3's for an hour and a half with NO problems - this is great! :) |
| 17:54.03 | noda | imo op2 is now better than op1 in every way now :) |
| 17:54.16 | Harlekin | ,) |
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| 17:54.27 | Harlekin | thank tronical for a lot of bug hunting |
| 17:54.46 | noda | Will do :) |
| 18:03.22 | cfish | every time I reboot my Z the charging-LED is on for some time. Has this affects for the life of the battery? |
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| 18:06.04 | George- | hey kergoth, chouimat |
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| 18:46.48 | George- | Hi scanline |
| 18:47.07 | George- | scanline: how's picogui? |
| 18:47.33 | scanline | chewy and good with muffins |
| 18:47.53 | George- | kewl |
| 18:48.09 | George- | scanline: there was a problem with pg on OZ 3.0, with the launcher or something |
| 18:48.16 | George- | scanline: has that been fixed? :) |
| 18:48.25 | scanline | no |
| 18:48.36 | George- | hrmm |
| 18:48.40 | George- | What's the problem? |
| 18:48.46 | scanline | the launcher needs a rewrite |
| 18:48.47 | George- | (Just out of wonder) |
| 18:49.07 | George- | ouch |
| 18:49.16 | scanline | ouch? |
| 18:49.31 | George- | yeh, having to rewrite it |
| 18:49.46 | scanline | heh |
| 18:50.00 | scanline | it's not exactly complicated as it is... |
| 18:52.25 | George- | ibot lart me |
| 18:52.40 | George- | free Solaris 7??? |
| 18:52.45 | George- | =P |
| 18:52.52 | kergoth | yeah, i have one of those |
| 18:52.58 | kergoth | x86, but still |
| 18:53.07 | George- | kergoth: heh, slowlaris :) |
| 18:53.19 | kergoth | yeap |
| 18:53.21 | George- | kergoth: are sun giving away free solaris 7 cds then? |
| 18:53.46 | George- | cool |
| 18:53.49 | George- | where do I get one??? |
| 18:53.55 | George- | =P |
| 18:53.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:54.06 | kergoth | they were, at one point, at shows |
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| 18:58.40 | George- | bleh |
| 18:59.56 | veritas | is there anything you can do with solaris that you can't do with anything else? |
| 19:01.03 | George- | Yeh, lose productivity time? :) |
| 19:01.07 | George- | j/k |
| 19:01.15 | George- | I dunno what solaris is like - never used it |
| 19:08.00 | nostromo | George-: solaris is like an old and funky linux :-) |
| 19:08.17 | George- | cool |
| 19:08.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:08.36 | George- | Now to ask the inevitable... how is it funky??? ;) |
| 19:08.56 | veritas | hahaha. |
| 19:08.59 | kergoth | as a serial guy, i hate that it uses ttymon .. i like the solaris kernel a lot |
| 19:09.05 | prpplague | solaris on x86 is too clunky for me |
| 19:09.14 | kergoth | prpplague: clunky is an understatement |
| 19:09.18 | veritas | i just thought it was pretty much dead. |
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| 19:09.22 | nostromo | I don't use it seriously since SunOs was Berkeley :-) |
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| 19:09.33 | kergoth | veritas: its still used for enterprise computing |
| 19:10.05 | nostromo | Big enterprise servers, 32GB RAM and 16processors, 4 virtual machines, ... |
| 19:10.13 | veritas | ahh.wee. |
| 19:10.26 | nostromo | veritas: I've actually seen a couple like these. |
| 19:10.38 | veritas | the x86 version is used for that? |
| 19:11.00 | kergoth | oh hell no |
| 19:11.04 | kergoth | x86 version is absolute crap |
| 19:11.12 | kergoth | those enterprise boxen are generally huge SPARC boxes |
| 19:11.14 | George- | lol |
| 19:11.22 | veritas | yeh. i was talking about x86. |
| 19:11.38 | George- | I want a sparc laptop... |
| 19:11.41 | George- | :) |
| 19:11.51 | veritas | i want a bag of hundreds |
| 19:11.55 | veritas | a big one. |
| 19:12.09 | George- | How fast would a 600MHz sparc IIi be? |
| 19:12.38 | alexw | sorry to butt in again, a quick question: which of these file locking functions is used/preferred on the Z: fcntl, lockf or flock? |
| 19:12.49 | veritas | are sparcs 64 bit processors? |
| 19:17.01 | veritas | nm. i answered the question myself. |
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| 19:34.53 | George- | nuhduhv |
| 19:34.55 | George- | hello |
| 19:36.10 | chouimat | hi George- |
| 19:36.50 | George- | hey chouimat |
| 19:36.58 | George- | chouimat: what do you suggest I write? |
| 19:37.20 | George- | I dunno what I should write |
| 19:37.20 | chouimat | George-: a pdf to djvu conversion script :) |
| 19:37.46 | veritas | wtf is djvu? |
| 19:37.57 | George- | yeh, wtf IS djvu |
| 19:37.59 | chouimat | veritas: djvu.sf.net |
| 19:38.06 | George- | and I dunno how PDF works :) |
| 19:38.28 | chouimat | George-: is easy but I don't have time to doit corectly |
| 19:39.05 | George- | chouimat: no thanks :) |
| 19:39.14 | George- | chouimat: Something for the Z or KDE I was thinking |
| 19:39.19 | George- | chouimat: preferably KDE? |
| 19:39.36 | chouimat | George-: I will do it in january then, with a nice gui interface |
| 19:39.40 | veritas | sounds like the holy grail of document compression |
| 19:39.59 | chouimat | veritas: a 13MB pdf take about 2.7MB |
| 19:40.16 | chouimat | veritas: good for ebook on the z :P |
| 19:40.32 | veritas | yeh really. |
| 19:40.49 | veritas | does it take alot of system resources to decompress? |
| 19:41.13 | chouimat | veritas: the converstion process is pdf->pbm->djvu-> page assembly |
| 19:41.19 | chouimat | veritas: no it's very fast |
| 19:41.27 | veritas | most of the pdf ebooks i have totally rape my z's system resources when i open them. |
| 19:41.56 | chouimat | veritas: and some don't show |
| 19:42.00 | veritas | yeh. |
| 19:42.13 | veritas | should be able to pull a page at a time from a pdf. |
| 19:42.33 | veritas | it's not like you need more than a few features on a freakin organizer. |
| 19:42.39 | chouimat | veritas: a 256KB pbm is compressed (depend on the page) into an 5-10KB file |
| 19:42.56 | veritas | poo. somone needs to write this. |
| 19:43.00 | chouimat | veritas: pdftopbm |
| 19:43.35 | George- | what's wrong bzip2 and bzcat? :) |
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| 19:44.40 | chouimat | I_M_A_WAY: I will check if I can write a direct conversion tool |
| 19:44.54 | treke|home | I dont think steak sandwiches would like that |
| 19:45.00 | not_kergoth | lol |
| 19:45.10 | George- | treke|home: heh |
| 19:45.20 | I_M_A_WAY | umm. yeh. |
| 19:46.01 | I_M_A_WAY | piss that didn't work either. |
| 19:46.11 | chouimat | I_M_A_WAY: with extra mayonaise? |
| 19:46.33 | not_kergoth | I_M_A_WAY: it's time to eat some fucking steak sandwiches. |
| 19:46.55 | I_M_A_WAY | it's ok. the last one worked. |
| 19:47.01 | not_kergoth | heh |
| 19:47.10 | I_M_A_WAY | thanks though. |
| 19:47.16 | I_M_A_WAY | it's time for me to go eat. |
| 19:47.18 | I_M_A_WAY | hah. |
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| 19:54.15 | George- | wump |
| 19:56.57 | chouimat | George-: ? |
| 19:58.18 | George- | strange noises often eminate from my mouth when i'm bored |
| 19:58.58 | I_M_A_WAY | funny. same thing happens to my ass when i eat alot of beans. |
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| 19:59.11 | chouimat | lol |
| 19:59.14 | chouimat | m,ooooooo! |
| 19:59.22 | noda | Moo! |
| 19:59.30 | veritas | i didnt' go get steak sanwiches |
| 20:00.04 | veritas | climbing the 6 flights of stairs weighed out the need for steak sandwiches |
| 20:00.33 | chouimat | veritas: in djvu format, alll page are bitmaps so it's fast for display |
| 20:01.34 | veritas | does it take more system resources to render text than it does to render a bitmap? |
| 20:02.01 | chouimat | veritas yes |
| 20:03.00 | veritas | hrmm. i'm going to harass the person that wrote the pdf viewer. "DJVU DJVU please please" |
| 20:03.15 | chouimat | veritas: djview is ported to the z |
| 20:03.25 | chouimat|away | bbl |
| 20:03.35 | veritas | oh really? does it run well? |
| 20:06.40 | George- | oink |
| 20:07.43 | veritas | moo |
| 20:08.29 | George- | baaaaaa |
| 20:08.34 | George- | womp wump wimp |
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| 20:12.07 | SuroTek | hey all |
| 20:12.27 | SuroTek | can someone direct me to a website where I can get the linux drivers for the sl-5500 cradle? |
| 20:12.43 | kergoth | ibot tell SuroTek about howtos |
| 20:13.08 | SuroTek | thanks, sorreis |
| 20:13.11 | SuroTek | sorries even |
| 20:13.52 | George- | kergoth: how do I get X to work on OZ 3.0? |
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| 20:14.32 | kergoth | George-: ask tmm1 or dajoker |
| 20:14.38 | kergoth | George-: ive never even used it |
| 20:15.53 | George- | I'm addicted to SFCave |
| 20:16.16 | kergoth | George-: me too |
| 20:16.17 | noda | George-: It's awesome, eh? :) |
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| 20:16.35 | George- | heh |
| 20:16.45 | George- | Must.. fight...addiction... |
| 20:17.07 | kergoth | its great in meetings. |
| 20:17.38 | SuroTek | SFCave? |
| 20:17.46 | treke|home | SFCave eh? |
| 20:17.50 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:17.53 | kergoth | tis in opie |
| 20:17.59 | kergoth | good game, by andyq, the guy who did aqpkg |
| 20:23.17 | George- | kergoth: what's your top score? |
| 20:23.25 | George- | (on SFCave, not Gate or Sky) |
| 20:28.03 | George- | woo.. qt 3.1 *still* compiling |
| 20:28.06 | George- | wahoo |
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| 20:48.49 | JasonNJ | argh |
| 20:49.01 | JasonNJ | what a bunch of ASSHOLES |
| 20:49.07 | kergoth | yo jason |
| 20:49.08 | kergoth | whats up |
| 20:49.21 | JasonNJ | kergoth: dickheads complaining on Zaurus.com about the site |
| 20:49.29 | kergoth | JasonNJ: ahhh |
| 20:49.58 | JasonNJ | I'm working with the invision board lead programmer in getting the content over, but this shit aint trivial |
| 20:50.09 | JasonNJ | I cant beleive how nasty some of these people are |
| 20:50.23 | JasonNJ | I mean shit, this is a major improvement over what sharp had before |
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| 20:50.54 | kergoth | yep, much much nicer |
| 20:51.02 | George- | hello |
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| 20:54.45 | JasonNJ | so have you unborked the bork? |
| 20:54.49 | kergoth | JasonNJ: yep |
| 20:54.59 | JasonNJ | what was it |
| 20:55.06 | kergoth | JasonNJ: the initrd.bin is on sf in unofficial/ .. about to be moved into official and released |
| 20:55.08 | Johnmcl77 | damn |
| 20:55.11 | kergoth | JasonNJ: well, we had a couple probs floating around |
| 20:55.14 | Johnmcl77 | just the person I wanted to see :/ |
| 20:55.21 | kergoth | JasonNJ: first one, TT changed the define for the zaurus |
| 20:55.27 | JasonNJ | cool, throw it up on community |
| 20:55.28 | kergoth | JasonNJ: and our configs defined the old one, not the new |
| 20:55.40 | kergoth | JasonNJ: second, the latest qt/e snapshot causes opie to segfault |
| 20:55.45 | kergoth | JasonNJ: had to revert to -beta2 |
| 20:56.11 | JasonNJ | they have new qt 2.x snapshots? |
| 20:56.29 | kergoth | JasonNJ: they've had 2.3.4 snapshots for some time now |
| 20:56.33 | kergoth | JasonNJ: as 2.3.4 isnt released yet |
| 20:56.41 | JasonNJ | I didnt realize they continued developing it |
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| 20:57.16 | kergoth | JasonNJ: 2.3.4 fixes quite a few bugs from 2.3.2. |
| 20:58.16 | Johnmcl77 | Anyone in here using a Linksys WCF12 card? |
| 20:59.02 | JasonNJ | bzflag: you see community.zaurus.com yet |
| 21:01.58 | JasonNJ | hey its twiun's birthday today |
| 21:02.07 | kergoth | oh it is? cool |
| 21:02.11 | JasonNJ | yeah he;s 25 |
| 21:02.12 | kergoth | BZFlag: hey tim |
| 21:02.57 | JasonNJ | kergoth: btw there is a OZ discussion forum on teh sharp boards |
| 21:03.01 | JasonNJ | in case you want to link to it |
| 21:03.25 | kergoth | JasonNJ: ah, k, will do |
| 21:03.54 | BZFlag | hery * |
| 21:04.03 | JasonNJ | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?act=SF&f=6 |
| 21:04.04 | BZFlag | er hey * |
| 21:04.05 | kergoth | hery |
| 21:04.29 | *** join/#zaurus Davv (Davv@new-65-28-148-213.new.rr.com) |
| 21:05.10 | JasonNJ | is there an official OZ mailing list? |
| 21:05.22 | JasonNJ | zaurus.com should have list functionality working early next week |
| 21:05.27 | JasonNJ | we didnt launch with it |
| 21:05.30 | kergoth | JasonNJ: openzaurus-users, and openzaurus-devel on sf |
| 21:05.39 | JasonNJ | ah ok |
| 21:05.46 | JasonNJ | well, we wont have ads. |
| 21:05.47 | JasonNJ | :) |
| 21:05.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:06.05 | BZFlag | JasonNJ: running gForge? or old sourceforge? |
| 21:06.16 | JasonNJ | we will move to gforge next year |
| 21:06.21 | JasonNJ | right now its SF 2.5 |
| 21:06.26 | JasonNJ | heavily tweaked |
| 21:06.35 | BZFlag | ah |
| 21:07.36 | JasonNJ | gforge wasnt avalaible when we started work on the site |
| 21:07.44 | JasonNJ | all of this stuff sort of happened at the same time |
| 21:07.56 | JasonNJ | the database will be migrateable |
| 21:09.13 | JasonNJ | bz: if there is any Embedix stuff you want to dump on there for distribution let me know. |
| 21:09.27 | noda | What's everyone's high score in sfcave? :) |
| 21:10.08 | Johnmcl77 | Where can I download sharp roms? |
| 21:10.20 | JasonNJ | community.zaurus.com/projects/sharproms |
| 21:10.23 | JasonNJ | or on myzaurus.com |
| 21:10.23 | Johnmcl77 | Thanks |
| 21:10.37 | Johnmcl77 | I could only see US sharproms on my Zaurus |
| 21:10.50 | Johnmcl77 | I'm not having much luck with this WCF12 |
| 21:10.53 | JasonNJ | yeah, I am awaiting some more rom images for the interational ones |
| 21:11.08 | JasonNJ | the WCF12 I think requires some configration file changes |
| 21:11.13 | Johnmcl77 | yeah |
| 21:11.25 | JasonNJ | did you try searching the archives on zauruszone.com's forums |
| 21:11.25 | Johnmcl77 | I was thinking it might be worth updating the rom before trying that |
| 21:11.27 | Johnmcl77 | Yes |
| 21:11.33 | JasonNJ | no luck |
| 21:11.35 | Johnmcl77 | I've found instructions how to do it |
| 21:11.44 | Johnmcl77 | But I don't know what roms the people were using |
| 21:11.48 | JasonNJ | are you using a UK rom? |
| 21:11.52 | Johnmcl77 | Yes |
| 21:11.59 | Johnmcl77 | The Z isn't recognising the card at all |
| 21:12.06 | JasonNJ | well, the US rom will work |
| 21:12.22 | JasonNJ | I think the difference is in the keyboard mapping of the pound symbol |
| 21:12.27 | Johnmcl77 | Aha! |
| 21:12.35 | Johnmcl77 | I didn't think of that |
| 21:12.41 | JasonNJ | yeah the UK zaurus has a pound symbol, us is dollar |
| 21:12.47 | Johnmcl77 | I'm just going to try installing the card on my PC |
| 21:12.54 | Johnmcl77 | Should guarantee the card isn't dead |
| 21:12.57 | JasonNJ | OpenZaurus is internationalized already I think |
| 21:13.09 | Johnmcl77 | I'm just concerned that the Z didn't recognise the card at all |
| 21:13.13 | noda | Yeah, it is. |
| 21:13.20 | Johnmcl77 | Or would this be normal until I had changed the config files? |
| 21:13.32 | JasonNJ | actually I think the WCF12 is natively supported under OZ |
| 21:13.50 | kergoth | yep, wcf12 works fine in oz, most prism2 cards do |
| 21:16.56 | Johnmcl77 | Crap |
| 21:17.10 | Johnmcl77 | i assumed this thing would come with drivers to install it on a laptop |
| 21:17.14 | *** topic/#zaurus by kergoth -> Sharp 5000d/5500/5600/A300/C700/etc Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ || http://MyZaurus.com/ || OpenZaurus 3.1rc1 now available for testing - #openzaurus || SL-5600 announced || NEW: www.zaurus.com open for business, with SourceForge features! |
| 21:23.35 | kergoth | sysinfo looks so perty now |
| 21:23.55 | kergoth | OpenZaurus .. Version: OpenZaurus 3.1rc1 .. Model: Zaurus SL-5500 .. Vendor: OpenZaurus Team |
| 21:24.00 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 21:24.40 | noda | Nice :) |
| 21:25.01 | noda | oz needs a better logo, is pingizauru taken? |
| 21:25.16 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:25.19 | kergoth | pingizauru is the oz logo, and the opie logo |
| 21:25.22 | kergoth | or do you mean in sysinfo? |
| 21:25.29 | noda | Yeah, in sysinfo :) |
| 21:25.31 | kergoth | we've got a lil icon of a pda, doesnt look too bad atm |
| 21:25.34 | noda | Guess you can't really put the same logo twice :) |
| 21:25.35 | kergoth | noda: but you konw that |
| 21:25.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:25.37 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:25.37 | noda | No,k it looks nice :) |
| 21:25.42 | noda | Just inconsistent :) |
| 21:26.00 | kergoth | well not really. the pda is the icon for the distribution |
| 21:26.04 | kergoth | which may or may not be OZ |
| 21:26.06 | noda | Ah :) |
| 21:26.11 | kergoth | remember that icon is shown in ipaq as well |
| 21:26.11 | noda | Cool, that's awesome then :) |
| 21:26.13 | kergoth | (familiar) |
| 21:26.16 | noda | yep |
| 21:26.17 | kergoth | so its like a general distro icon |
| 21:26.34 | noda | Okay, I'm gonna test sfcave. |
| 21:26.36 | noda | :P |
| 21:26.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:26.42 | kergoth | 'test' |
| 21:26.43 | noda | Gotta see what happens when you get a score higher than 1933! :) |
| 21:26.44 | kergoth | uh huh |
| 21:26.45 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:26.47 | noda | Maybe it'll crash! |
| 21:43.02 | noda | cfish: Yeah, it jumps around though :( |
| 21:44.00 | cfish | noda: right, now it is at 97%, but I do noch charge. |
| 22:01.18 | kergoth`bbl | cfish, noda: apparently we can only do +-5-10%, cant get 1% accuracy, so it wavers |
| 22:07.31 | cfish | seems not to be a bug but a feature: The Tabs in the "Edit Tab" - Dialog in "launcher settings"/tabs/edit look strange (you only see "background" / "Font" or "icons". the unselected lables apear blank). |
| 22:08.11 | kergoth`bbl | cfish: yeah, its cause those tabs only have names, not icons.. the tab bar normally shows icons on unselected tabs |
| 22:08.19 | kergoth`bbl | cfish: i think the devels already know of the behavior |
| 22:09.52 | *** join/#zaurus George- (~Test@m357-mp1.cvx1-a.man.dial.ntli.net) |
| 22:09.59 | George- | anyone here good at writing letters? |
| 22:10.10 | George- | (apart from that damned annoying MS paperclip :) |
| 22:11.50 | treke|home | cfish: Change the appearence type |
| 22:12.00 | treke|home | cfish: Set it to text only" |
| 22:12.03 | veritas | it's named clippy thank you very much. |
| 22:12.18 | George- | veritas: I know |
| 22:12.21 | treke|home | that's what happened if there are no icons specified |
| 22:12.28 | George- | veritas: but it deserves to be melted down... |
| 22:13.15 | *** join/#zaurus prpplague (~joebob@21-190.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com) |
| 22:15.53 | cfish | the backlight in "full" position. apears to be brighter than in Qtopia - only my impression? |
| 22:16.36 | kergoth`bbl | cfish: could be |
| 22:27.22 | cfish | I can say very, ultra, rextreme cool!!! ;-) But ... |
| 22:27.37 | cfish | can anyone help me with the network? |
| 22:28.34 | cfish | the dialog says "disconnected" for USBd0, but this is not true ... |
| 22:30.02 | cfish | ifconfig on zaurus returns nothing. |
| 22:30.20 | kergoth`bbl | ? |
| 22:30.32 | kergoth`bbl | if ifconfig returns nothing, then its definately a disconnected interface |
| 22:30.35 | kergoth`bbl | its reporting it correctly |
| 22:30.43 | kergoth`bbl | ifconfig -a does show usbd0 right? |
| 22:33.13 | cfish | I removed Z outof the craddle and put it in again, now it says connected. But still no ping. |
| 22:33.24 | kergoth`bbl | .. |
| 22:33.28 | kergoth`bbl | ifconfig shows an ip? |
| 22:34.09 | cfish | one moment, may be my fault ... |
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| 22:36.09 | *** part/#zaurus ljp- (~wind@tf0226.peakpeak.com) |
| 22:37.58 | kergoth`bbl | cfish: k |
| 22:38.01 | cfish | sorry, was my fault. But there is still a bug: the "First DNS" field in "interface setup" does not work. |
| 22:38.38 | kergoth`bbl | cfish: in 3.1rc1? |
| 22:39.17 | cfish | kergoth`bbl: yes |
| 22:39.55 | kergoth`bbl | cfish: hmm, thought that one was fixed. will have to report it to the networksetup maintainer |
| 22:41.25 | cfish | kergoth`bbl: you can test easyly: enter something, hit OK, and reopen the dialog: the field is empty again. (even no entry in resov.conf) |
| 22:45.01 | *** join/#zaurus ep0ch (ep0ch@dsl-217-155-108-177.zen.co.uk) |
| 22:45.19 | ep0ch | do tkc apps still add their own tab? |
| 22:47.42 | kergoth`bbl | ep0ch: yes |
| 22:48.00 | kergoth`bbl | ep0ch: or rather, the qpe-thekompany ipk adds the tab i believe, the apps add icons to it |
| 22:48.07 | ep0ch | that sux |
| 22:48.25 | kergoth`bbl | ? |
| 22:48.29 | kergoth`bbl | so move their icons then |
| 22:48.53 | ep0ch | do i need the qpe-thekompany ipk? |
| 22:49.35 | ep0ch | its only $5 anyway...... |
| 22:49.35 | kergoth`bbl | yes. |
| 22:49.38 | kergoth`bbl | ? |
| 22:49.45 | kergoth`bbl | qpe-thekompany comes with all their apps. |
| 22:49.45 | ep0ch | tkcmajongg |
| 22:49.48 | kergoth`bbl | ah |
| 22:49.51 | ep0ch | i just want that :D |
| 22:50.00 | kergoth`bbl | good game, i own that |
| 22:50.47 | ep0ch | shame the qpe-tkc ipk will make it a bit bloated though |
| 22:51.53 | kergoth`bbl | yep. need their lib |
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| 22:53.42 | |ryan| | damnit |
| 22:54.07 | |ryan| | what am I missing here.... |
| 22:54.22 | |ryan| | trying to get on the net with my zaurus... |
| 22:54.40 | |ryan| | but i can't get through my firewall/gateway |
| 22:55.23 | ep0ch | 1.1 mb compressed :( |
| 22:55.46 | *** join/#zaurus nishi (~nishin@sj-natpool-220.cisco.com) |
| 22:55.57 | |ryan| | lesse... |
| 22:57.11 | nishi | Hiiii Kergoth, Numatrix, Cloudchaser, Choiomat ... how are u guys doing ? |
| 22:57.46 | nishi | anyone here got the SL-C700 from dynamism ? |
| 22:57.54 | kergoth | hey nishi |
| 22:58.03 | nishi | hey kergoth how've u been ? |
| 22:58.03 | |ryan| | zaurus: usbd0: 192.168.129.201 workstation: eth0: 192.168.0.10 usb0: 192.168.129.1 firewall: eth1 192.168.0.1 eth0: internet ip...... |
| 22:58.05 | kergoth | nishi: they arent shipping the units yet. its a preorder hting |
| 22:58.08 | kergoth | nishi: good, you? |
| 22:58.15 | |ryan| | what route do i need on the firewall? |
| 22:58.27 | nishi | aah ok :) ... it was to be released in Japan on Dec 14 02 right ? good too thx kergoth |
| 22:58.32 | nishi | whats new here ? |
| 22:58.37 | kergoth | nishi: yes afaik |
| 22:58.46 | kergoth | nishi: openzaurus 3.1 release candidate one is avialable for testing |
| 22:58.50 | kergoth | umm what else |
| 22:58.54 | |ryan| | i tried having it route 192.168.129.0/24 through 192.168.0.10 on the lan interfave, but no worky |
| 22:58.55 | kergoth | new zauurs site |
| 22:58.58 | kergoth | http://zaurus.com/ |
| 22:59.03 | nishi | i'm passing by Seoul on Dec 29 ... hopefully I can see the C700 then |
| 22:59.11 | nishi | and hopefully it arrives there :) |
| 22:59.12 | kergoth | instead of the old crap devel sharp site and zauruszone |
| 22:59.18 | nishi | cool |
| 22:59.19 | |ryan| | I cam talk to my lan with the zaurus, though..... |
| 22:59.22 | nishi | checking the site |
| 23:01.46 | nishi | anyone from Japan here ? |
| 23:02.02 | nishi | and obviously speaks english :)) |
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| 23:03.43 | cfish | |ryan|: you have two possibilities: either you give your zaurus a legal IP in your lan and enable arp-proxy, or you need masquerading. |
| 23:04.52 | kergoth | okay only 10 open bugs against oz atm, 4 of which are pending further info/testing from the submitter. |
| 23:04.53 | nishi | ok kergoth ... i'll see u later ... am headed to India in 2 weeks ... via Seoul ... will login from there mostly |
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| 23:04.58 | kergoth | nishi: have fun :) |
| 23:05.13 | nishi | sure kergoth ... thx |
| 23:05.27 | nishi | am going home to visit family in India |
| 23:05.31 | nishi | 1 month :) |
| 23:05.54 | nishi | take care and have a merry xmas and new yr if I dont see u b4 that :) |
| 23:06.13 | kergoth | nishi: you too |
| 23:06.16 | George- | see you! |
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| 23:06.21 | cfish | is there a reason why a nfs-mount takes about 10 minutes? |
| 23:06.28 | nishi | hv fun and happy holidays everyone !! |
| 23:06.31 | nishi | bye for now |
| 23:06.33 | Johnmcl77 | Hey George- |
| 23:06.36 | kergoth | cfish: disable .. this option .. i forget what it is |
| 23:06.41 | George- | Hey Johnmcl7 |
| 23:06.45 | *** part/#zaurus nishi (~nishin@sj-natpool-220.cisco.com) |
| 23:06.49 | Johnmcl77 | Finally got my CF card |
| 23:06.50 | kergoth | cfish: checked the oz faq? might be in there |
| 23:06.53 | Johnmcl77 | Just trying to get it working :/ |
| 23:07.26 | Johnmcl77 | Is there a text editor supplied with the terminal program? |
| 23:07.37 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:07.48 | kergoth | Johnmcl77: theres a commandline text editor yes. is it supplied with the terminal program, no. |
| 23:07.55 | Johnmcl77 | Ok |
| 23:08.01 | |ryan| | cfish: arp-proxy? |
| 23:08.22 | |ryan| | I have no problem giving my z a lan ip |
| 23:08.27 | George- | Johnmcl77: why? |
| 23:08.47 | George- | Johnmcl77: vi is in busybox... |
| 23:08.47 | |ryan| | can I use the network configureation control panel on the zaurus a lan IP? |
| 23:09.15 | cfish | kergoth: right: mount -o nolock ... *tnx* |
| 23:09.17 | Johnmcl77 | I need to edit the wlan-ng.conf file to get the CF card working |
| 23:09.32 | kergoth | cfish: *thats* the one. np :) |
| 23:10.27 | Johnmcl77 | The terminal is working fine, I just need to get a text editor onto it now |
| 23:10.42 | George- | Johnmcl77: VI is in BUSYBOX :) |
| 23:10.48 | Johnmcl77 | I'm looking! |
| 23:10.54 | Johnmcl77 | I was just taking time to answer |
| 23:11.12 | cfish | |ryan|: yes, in the network-conf enter a legal IP, and your firewall as gateway and do the following: |
| 23:11.14 | George- | Johnmcl77: in terminal, type in "busybox vi" |
| 23:11.22 | George- | Johnmcl77: I hope you know how to use vi :) |
| 23:11.22 | cfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.23 | cfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.33 | |ryan| | cfish: thanks, lemme try that. |
| 23:14.37 | |ryan| | cfish: doesn't seem to be working |
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| 23:15.19 | cfish | |ryan|: I hope you did the echos on your workstation!? |
| 23:15.24 | |ryan| | yes |
| 23:15.45 | |ryan| | well, not ip_forward, that's already enabled |
| 23:16.34 | |ryan| | i ran ifconfig in the terminal on the z, couldn't ping the internet (my dns server) |
| 23:17.04 | cfish | |ryan|: mail me your ifconfig and route of your Z and Workstation. |
| 23:17.13 | cfish | fischbach@silberbit.de |
| 23:17.25 | |ryan| | ok |
| 23:19.13 | |ryan| | I love netcat :) |
| 23:19.33 | kergoth | mm netcat/socat |
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| 23:26.05 | |ryan| | cfish: ok, sent |
| 23:26.10 | |ryan| | thanks for help[ing |
| 23:29.02 | cfish | |ryan|: you have the Sharp-ROM on you zaurus, right? |
| 23:30.04 | |ryan| | cfish: yes, 2.37 |
| 23:31.54 | cfish | |ryan|: i will reply on your email in a few minutes ... |
| 23:32.00 | |ryan| | k |
| 23:32.09 | |ryan| | tanks you so muck for your hrlp :) |
| 23:33.31 | |ryan| | too bad my typing suckx so much :( |
| 23:37.49 | |ryan| | fsck |
| 23:38.05 | |ryan| | "SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING" |
| 23:38.07 | |ryan| | bah |
| 23:38.34 | |ryan| | wow... |
| 23:38.48 | |ryan| | "Large hail, windows over 55mph" |
| 23:38.55 | |ryan| | WINDOWS? |
| 23:38.57 | |ryan| | NOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:39.01 | |ryan| | hehe |
| 23:39.07 | |ryan| | i ment winds |
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| 23:56.56 | Zxcvb | is the ZSI still being updated? |
| 23:57.14 | George- | Zxcvb: should be... |
| 23:57.34 | Zxcvb | ah, noticed they are moving lots of stuff to zaurus.com |
| 23:57.56 | Zxcvb | of course, the designer for that site doesn't know about <a href=> tags |
| 23:58.16 | George- | zaurus.com links to the ZsI |
| 23:58.51 | Zxcvb | know when a new SDL release is due out? |
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