| 00:00.43 | Twiun | hehe |
| 00:00.54 | Twiun | I'm staying with 3.0 for now |
| 00:03.04 | Bovine | any major show stoppers in 3.1RC1? |
| 00:03.08 | George- | http://www.capitalfm.com/contentImages/23000/22904$9144.jpg |
| 00:03.10 | George- | ;)))))))) |
| 00:03.38 | Bovine | =p |
| 00:03.49 | Bovine | I knew someone from Kirkwall... |
| 00:03.52 | noda | Bovine: Yes. The touchscreen doesn't work :) |
| 00:03.55 | Twiun | George-: lol, you should stop taking pictures of your mates ;-) |
| 00:04.07 | Bovine | noda: that's a bit of a showstopper eh? :P |
| 00:04.43 | Bovine | I'll wait for RC2 perhaps... |
| 00:04.54 | George- | Twiun: What mates? :P |
| 00:05.00 | Bovine | ol |
| 00:05.00 | noda | Just a little bit :P |
| 00:05.05 | Bovine | +l |
| 00:05.07 | Twiun | George-: understandable after that picture |
| 00:05.10 | George- | Twiun: That's actually a pic from Capital FM's site :) |
| 00:05.14 | noda | Bovine: Just wait 'til 3.1rc1 is actually released. You'll notice you can't download a root image :P |
| 00:05.18 | George- | the "Idiot Board" |
| 00:05.19 | George- | lol |
| 00:05.21 | Twiun | George-: I know, I know, I was taking the piss |
| 00:05.30 | Twiun | ~lart George- |
| 00:05.41 | Twiun | hehe, oddly appropriate for once |
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| 00:06.00 | Bovine | ~lart me |
| 00:06.11 | Bovine | owwwww hot hot! |
| 00:08.38 | George- | moo |
| 00:08.44 | George- | This is boring |
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| 00:38.29 | Neo|Work | anyone here from http://www.mobile2day.de/ ? |
| 00:39.08 | hardwire | wow |
| 00:39.19 | hardwire | ut2003 is one cpu hungry beast |
| 00:39.26 | noda | hardwire: Yeah, I'll say :) |
| 00:39.32 | noda | hardwire: Did you notice the built-in IRC client? :P |
| 00:39.32 | hardwire | i turned everything to lowest and get.. like .. 15fps ? |
| 00:39.48 | hardwire | no |
| 00:39.49 | hardwire | hahah |
| 00:39.51 | noda | GeForce4 Ti4200 works great. The new drivers make a difference (but you have to reboot to get the AGP benefit) |
| 00:39.52 | hardwire | I barely wanna play it |
| 00:40.03 | hardwire | it pegged both processors in this machine |
| 00:40.05 | hardwire | and the gforce4 |
| 00:40.22 | George- | hardwire: lol |
| 00:40.24 | noda | Set Option "NvAgp" "1" in /etc/X11/XF86Config, right after 'Driver "nvidia"' |
| 00:40.30 | noda | Then *gasp* reboot. |
| 00:40.30 | George- | hardwire: what CPUs, which GF4? :) |
| 00:40.33 | hardwire | noda: take care of man |
| 00:40.45 | hardwire | dual intel 933 |
| 00:41.16 | noda | My 4400 gets enough fps to be smooth when running around alone, and decent in deathmatch (lag is the factor that makes me lose now, not framerate) |
| 00:41.30 | hardwire | Asus TI4200 Gforce |
| 00:42.17 | hardwire | quake3 runs at 150fps.. |
| 00:42.23 | hardwire | 150/10 |
| 00:42.25 | hardwire | 15 |
| 00:42.29 | hardwire | thats ut2003 |
| 00:42.38 | hardwire | I have it on the ultra lowest settings |
| 00:42.38 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:42.54 | noda | hardwire: It's your agp stuff, I'm sure :) |
| 00:43.03 | noda | hardwire: Did you reboot? You *are* running Linux, right? |
| 00:44.24 | hardwire | noda: de.. caf.. |
| 00:44.40 | noda | :) |
| 00:44.46 | hardwire | tell yah what.. send me your XF86Config file |
| 00:44.52 | noda | Sure. |
| 00:45.02 | hardwire | shane at bogomip dot com |
| 00:45.24 | ljp | whats a bogomip |
| 00:45.34 | ljp | bogomip this! |
| 00:45.52 | noda | Aah! I seem to have misplaced my "mail" command... |
| 00:46.05 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:46.19 | noda | What package is that a part of? I've gotta get my priorities straight, install this very basic tool :) |
| 00:46.27 | hardwire | ok |
| 00:46.33 | hardwire | just.. webserver it to me ? |
| 00:46.49 | noda | Hehehe, sure |
| 00:46.52 | ljp | vtun! vtun it to him! |
| 00:47.09 | noda | http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/XF86Config |
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| 00:47.32 | GAThrawn | Oops |
| 00:47.41 | GAThrawn | Left myself connected at work again :/ |
| 00:47.50 | noda | As you can see, it's been a while since I gave it an audit :P |
| 00:48.06 | GAThrawn | For anyone alive here, how do you kill apps on the Zaurus in 'shipped' condition? |
| 00:48.22 | noda | Install the console program, or telnet in. |
| 00:48.33 | noda | And type "ps" to list the programs, and "kill <pid>" to kill one |
| 00:48.45 | GAThrawn | Sheesh |
| 00:49.14 | jurrie | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.21 | GAThrawn | There must be a hard reset somewhere is there? |
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| 00:49.41 | jurrie | install a top/ps-like utility such as WhatsUpOnZ |
| 00:50.31 | GAThrawn | Looks like I'm going to have to... |
| 00:51.03 | GAThrawn | I was simply trying to play a couple of Mpegs...disappointed that the Zaurus just crashes :( |
| 00:51.33 | jurrie | shouldn't |
| 00:51.50 | GAThrawn | I put on three small mpegs to try it |
| 00:51.53 | jurrie | I've played plenty w/out probs |
| 00:51.54 | GAThrawn | It only plays one |
| 00:52.04 | GAThrawn | Crashes on the other two |
| 00:52.05 | jurrie | mem shortage? |
| 00:52.18 | jurrie | mpeg-1 I hope |
| 00:52.23 | GAThrawn | They're the only things on it |
| 00:52.29 | GAThrawn | Yeah, mpeg1 |
| 00:52.42 | jurrie | odd |
| 00:52.52 | GAThrawn | Even if it wasn't, it should surely just refuse them |
| 00:53.12 | jurrie | what else are you running? |
| 00:53.26 | GAThrawn | Noting else apart from what comes with the Zaurus |
| 00:53.40 | GAThrawn | I only got it this morning, I was just trying it out a little before going to bed |
| 00:54.17 | jurrie | PIM apps always run, unless you change that setting |
| 00:54.25 | GAThrawn | Yeah |
| 00:54.26 | noda | Ack! What the hell am I doing! i've bought myself a nice 120-gig hard drive and I haven't even taken it out of its static wrapping yet :) |
| 00:54.45 | noda | I think it's a sign that I don't care as much about computers as I used to :) |
| 00:55.00 | ljp | what! you need to send that to me, right away! it could be damaged! |
| 00:55.18 | noda | 8MB cache... apparently that makes a difference. |
| 00:55.24 | noda | (tomshardware said so, I trust it :P) |
| 00:56.31 | ljp | heh I'll trade you a _40_ mb drive for that one! |
| 00:56.49 | noda | Whoa, really? |
| 00:56.59 | noda | I'm actually going to be giving one of my 30's to my brother - isn't that nice of me! :) |
| 00:57.35 | DaWorm | what are you going to fill that HD up with? 120gb wow |
| 00:57.55 | ljp | warez and ilegal mp3 files |
| 00:58.00 | noda | Well I figure I'm already using about 50. And now I've gotten kinda keen on using my computer as a VCR too... those megs fill up :) |
| 00:58.02 | nagROM | heh. just about to say that |
| 00:58.08 | DaWorm | i bet |
| 00:58.18 | DaWorm | not to mention a 3 year old pr0n collection |
| 00:58.19 | DaWorm | haha |
| 00:58.19 | noda | Actually, right now I have about 20 illegal MP3's and Unreal Tournament - everything else on my system is completely legal. |
| 00:58.20 | DaWorm | jk |
| 00:58.23 | nagROM | i'd fill it up with porn avis. |
| 00:58.26 | ljp | ya, try editing video! |
| 00:58.44 | nagROM | heh. i have about a billion umm legal mp3's |
| 00:58.52 | DaWorm | that would be a good photoshop scratch disk |
| 00:59.29 | noda | Nah, when you're using photoshop you deal with small files anyway for the most part, no? i.e., <4GB |
| 00:59.52 | nagROM | i've had scratch disks get to be 3 gigs. |
| 01:00.15 | noda | Ah, I was thinking Premiere, n/m |
| 01:00.35 | noda | With Premiere it's nice to have a 30GB drive, then when you want to show off your video stuff you just bring the drive around with you :P |
| 01:01.06 | nagROM | heh. nice. |
| 01:01.27 | noda | That's what my cousin does :P |
| 01:01.34 | ljp | heh I used to edit video with 2g hard drives.. thats a pain in the ass |
| 01:01.41 | noda | WOW. |
| 01:01.48 | noda | He's got a 20gig and keeps on running out of room :) |
| 01:02.29 | nagROM | heh. i've got 3 60 gigs that are filled up. |
| 01:02.40 | noda | But this 120... it's gonna be great. I'll organize all my partitions up brilliantly :) |
| 01:02.50 | nagROM | i've got alot of them em pee threez |
| 01:03.14 | nagROM | and them divicks moobies |
| 01:03.40 | noda | I'll give myself a separate /home partition, a partition for oggs, one for video, one for source code... :) |
| 01:04.03 | ljp | well, if you love them so much, why not marry them? |
| 01:04.11 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 01:04.36 | nagROM | i've got divix/www/and an mp3 partition |
| 01:04.54 | DaWorm | i only got a www partition |
| 01:04.55 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 01:05.02 | noda | Oh, yeah, I should make a www partition. |
| 01:05.06 | ljp | I always say that when someone mentions the word love |
| 01:05.18 | nagROM | i just keep all my work on there. |
| 01:05.22 | noda | Even though I shouldn't be using this computer as a www server at all, I end up using it all the time :P |
| 01:05.42 | ljp | only server I run is ssh |
| 01:05.51 | noda | Smart :) |
| 01:05.52 | ljp | well,, |
| 01:05.56 | ljp | kinda |
| 01:06.04 | ljp | from out there I suppose |
| 01:06.09 | noda | I'm gonna set up ssh to run through xinetd :) |
| 01:06.16 | noda | Oh, lol, I already did :) |
| 01:06.21 | ljp | haha |
| 01:06.30 | noda | I've gotta make more stuff use xinetd... |
| 01:06.50 | noda | must... get... one second faster! |
| 01:07.01 | noda | Hey, maybe this new hard drive will be one second faster... or almost ;) |
| 01:07.23 | DaWorm | not a second faster, but probably milliseconds faster |
| 01:07.24 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 01:07.34 | DaWorm | so fast you dont notice anything |
| 01:08.14 | noda | lol |
| 01:08.31 | noda | Apparently this 8mb cache comes in handy when copying big files or something. Which is nice :) |
| 01:08.51 | DaWorm | i would imagine so |
| 01:08.58 | noda | After all, I always say to myself when copying large files, "only 30MB/sec?" |
| 01:09.45 | hardwire | noda... didn't help |
| 01:09.52 | hardwire | gonna snag the ultra freaky new new drivers |
| 01:10.06 | hardwire | I just compiled yesterday.. you would think they wouldnt change that much :) |
| 01:10.10 | noda | hardwire: Oh, you didn't snag them? |
| 01:10.22 | noda | The new ones make a big diff in ut2003. |
| 01:10.32 | noda | And you MUST reboot. Just playing around with modules won't work. |
| 01:10.35 | hardwire | the new as in new new today? |
| 01:10.42 | noda | New as in new 2 days ago or something |
| 01:10.46 | hardwire | ok |
| 01:10.52 | noda | Yesterday I think |
| 01:10.53 | hardwire | will.. doo.. bill.. eee.. dooo |
| 01:10.57 | noda | Version number starts with a 4. |
| 01:13.13 | noda | 4191, that's it :) |
| 01:14.37 | DaWorm | hmmm |
| 01:14.40 | DaWorm | a new forum? |
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| 01:29.28 | hardwire | noda: yay.. slower :) |
| 01:29.29 | hardwire | wee! |
| 01:29.41 | noda | lol |
| 01:29.54 | hardwire | fuckit.. its totally not a gl issue |
| 01:29.56 | ljp | woooaaa.. slow down there.. nellie! |
| 01:30.00 | hardwire | like I suspected |
| 01:30.10 | hardwire | oops |
| 01:30.17 | noda | no, it's an agp issue |
| 01:30.20 | hardwire | wrong channel .. should have cursed in another one.. sorry folks |
| 01:30.24 | hardwire | no.. its not |
| 01:30.36 | hardwire | noda: why would an agp issue peg broth processors at 100% ? |
| 01:30.50 | noda | hardwire: The processors are always at 100%... but you can get a higher framerate. |
| 01:30.56 | ljp | my cat just stolemy chair! |
| 01:30.57 | noda | hardwire: No matter what the processors will be at 100%. |
| 01:31.04 | hardwire | hmm |
| 01:31.07 | hardwire | yeah |
| 01:31.10 | hardwire | must be an agp issue |
| 01:31.17 | noda | hardwire: Do you do a modprobe of agpgart anywhere? Make sure you don't. |
| 01:31.18 | hardwire | cause when I am getting 150+fps in quake3 |
| 01:31.26 | hardwire | its an agp issue :) |
| 01:31.31 | noda | lol |
| 01:31.43 | hardwire | and 400 something in bzflag |
| 01:31.51 | DaWorm | poor cat |
| 01:32.00 | noda | Oh, also make sure arts and esd aren't running (don't think it makes a diff but I'm not sure) |
| 01:32.16 | noda | Make sure it's 16-bit colour :) |
| 01:32.20 | hardwire | noda.. msg me this |
| 01:32.21 | hardwire | cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card |
| 01:32.53 | hardwire | cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge |
| 01:32.55 | hardwire | cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
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| 01:41.15 | noda | Hrm, I have a sudden urge to edit my $PS1. |
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| 01:44.30 | noda | How do you make your prompt colourful? :) |
| 01:45.43 | Neo|Work | anyone from Germany here? |
| 01:48.48 | |ryan| | Hey, I just got a Zaurus today, could someone point me to instructions for making it talk to my Linux box? |
| 01:49.13 | |ryan| | It's a 5500... |
| 01:50.17 | Neo2 | which Linux distro/version? |
| 01:50.38 | Neo2 | ibot howto |
| 01:50.39 | | [howto] at http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/ or see xcompile for cross compiler setup |
| 01:51.45 | |ryan| | Neo2: thanks, I currently run Mandrake 8.2... |
| 01:51.53 | Neo2 | http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/lc_mandrake.shtml |
| 01:52.09 | |ryan| | yeah, i found the link :) |
| 01:53.16 | Neo2 | you might have to remove CDCEther.o.gz (I think that's the name) from the /lib/modules/<kernel>/ tree and rerun depmod -a |
| 01:53.35 | |ryan| | yeah, it loaded via hotplug.... |
| 01:53.46 | |ryan| | can't I just comment out that line? |
| 01:54.10 | Neo2 | just remove the file |
| 01:54.17 | Neo2 | depmod is rerun every reboot |
| 01:54.46 | |ryan| | I can't comment it out in modules.usbmap? |
| 01:55.11 | Neo2 | hmm. I guess perhaps you can |
| 01:55.15 | Neo2 | never thought of that |
| 01:55.18 | |ryan| | heh |
| 02:03.42 | |ryan| | seems to have worked.... |
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| 02:12.04 | |ryan| | ok, now I have it networked... |
| 02:12.27 | |ryan| | now, I guess I gotta set up some routes? |
| 02:15.43 | Neo2 | sure |
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| 02:24.45 | warmi | hi |
| 02:24.50 | Neo2 | hello |
| 02:28.24 | |ryan| | Neo2: so, how do I install softare and whatnot? |
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| 02:41.53 | |ryan| | heh |
| 02:42.11 | |ryan| | qtoipadesktop doesn't like parsing my /etc/hosts |
| 02:44.46 | Neo2 | |ryan|: using the "add/remove software" aoo |
| 02:44.58 | |ryan| | yeah, I figured it out :) |
| 02:45.03 | Neo2 | ok. :P |
| 02:45.17 | |ryan| | any way to import my addressbook from kde? |
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| 02:47.40 | Zxcvb | is the new SDL with those fixes out yet? |
| 02:53.51 | Zxcvb | anyone know if there is a new SDL out? |
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| 03:15.44 | Neo|Work | Zxcvb: no |
| 03:16.45 | Zxcvb | Neo|Work: ok, just i heard a new SDL was coming out soon |
| 03:17.01 | Neo|Work | perhaps |
| 03:17.20 | Zxcvb | Neo|Work: it will be on the ZSI, right? |
| 03:17.50 | Neo|Work | I don't do the SDL releases |
| 03:17.59 | Neo|Work | but I assume so |
| 03:18.08 | |ryan| | hmmm |
| 03:18.23 | |ryan| | where can I get ptydevs? |
| 03:18.34 | |ryan| | ibot ptydevs |
| 03:18.35 | | |ryan|: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 03:19.16 | Neo|Work | ibot zfi help |
| 03:24.53 | chouimat | hi Neo|Work |
| 03:25.19 | |ryan| | Neo|Work: Do you know where I can get ptydevs? |
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| 03:33.49 | warmi | ibot atari |
| 03:33.49 | | wish i knew, warmi |
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| 03:44.06 | rabbit_uk_ | anyone got any ideas on what might cause /usr/bin to vanish? |
| 03:44.17 | rabbit_uk_ | g'night chouimat |
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| 04:05.49 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: on the Z? |
| 04:06.04 | rabbit_uk_ | yeaeh |
| 04:06.18 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: was telnet left enabled? |
| 04:06.26 | H4NZ0 | anyone have a precompiled zstyle package ? |
| 04:06.33 | rabbit_uk_ | my Z's not rebooting an |
| 04:06.49 | rabbit_uk_ | I think I've still got telnet in that busybox thing. |
| 04:07.01 | Zxcvb_ | no, telnetd |
| 04:07.05 | Zxcvb_ | the Z's telnet server |
| 04:07.11 | Zxcvb_ | also, what ROM do you use? |
| 04:07.57 | rabbit_uk_ | no telnetd. I'm running 2.35 (UK) |
| 04:08.10 | Zxcvb_ | get the latest "security enhanced" rom |
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| 04:08.17 | Zxcvb_ | otherwise, anyone on the internet can use the Z's ftp server |
| 04:08.25 | Zxcvb_ | and simply rm anything |
| 04:08.49 | rabbit_uk_ | But it's that's not an issue ATM since I don't have it connected to the internet |
| 04:09.03 | Zxcvb_ | have you ever had it connected? |
| 04:09.09 | rabbit_uk_ | nope |
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| 04:09.38 | rabbit_uk_ | will I be able to update the ROM without Qtopia working? |
| 04:09.45 | freaker | is there any better pdf readers than qpdf? |
| 04:09.48 | Zxcvb_ | yes |
| 04:09.53 | Zxcvb_ | freaker: qpdf or opera |
| 04:10.05 | freaker | dang |
| 04:10.21 | rabbit_uk_ | cheers Zxcvb |
| 04:10.51 | freaker | opera is slow as snot for reading pdfs |
| 04:10.55 | Zxcvb_ | you need a CF card |
| 04:11.09 | rabbit_uk_ | not SD? |
| 04:11.13 | Zxcvb_ | no |
| 04:11.14 | Zxcvb_ | CF |
| 04:11.17 | Zxcvb_ | at least 32MB |
| 04:11.21 | rabbit_uk_ | buggere |
| 04:11.30 | Zxcvb_ | 256MB CF cards are cheap |
| 04:11.54 | noda | define "cheap" |
| 04:11.54 | Zxcvb_ | and can hold lots of media for when you aren't on the net with it |
| 04:12.00 | freaker | Zxcvb everywhere I look they cost alot |
| 04:12.11 | rabbit_uk_ | Yeah but I wanna buy a SD card so I can keep both memory card in when I finally get a wifi card |
| 04:12.39 | Zxcvb_ | $60 USD |
| 04:12.43 | Zxcvb_ | on pricewatch |
| 04:12.43 | rabbit_uk_ | 256MB SD are £80 here in the UK |
| 04:12.56 | rabbit_uk_ | that's from eBay |
| 04:13.01 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: CF should cost as much, if not less |
| 04:13.21 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: don't you use the euro now? |
| 04:13.44 | treke|home | the UK doesnt use the euro |
| 04:13.46 | rabbit_uk_ | nah, UK isn't doing that yet. |
| 04:14.01 | Zxcvb_ | ah |
| 04:14.16 | rabbit_uk_ | UK, Norway, Sweden, Switerland and a couple of others aren't in. |
| 04:14.41 | Zxcvb_ | just wondering, what happens if the UK withdraws from the EU by "illegal means" |
| 04:15.01 | rabbit_uk_ | it would be so much easier since 1$ ~= 1 euro |
| 04:15.03 | freaker | anybody have any advice as to wether or not a battery charger/extender works well enough to buy |
| 04:15.23 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: how much is $1 for you? |
| 04:15.33 | rabbit_uk_ | 60pence |
| 04:15.49 | rabbit_uk_ | roughly that is |
| 04:15.54 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: so .60? |
| 04:16.00 | rabbit_uk_ | yep |
| 04:16.29 | treke|home | sugar what is 1 GBP in USD |
| 04:16.31 | Sugar | 1 GBP is 1.5220701 US$ |
| 04:16.59 | Zxcvb_ | $55 for 192MB, $73 for 256MB |
| 04:17.12 | rabbit_uk_ | 192??? |
| 04:17.21 | Zxcvb_ | might not ship to the UK |
| 04:17.21 | Zxcvb_ | yeah |
| 04:17.29 | Zxcvb_ | kodak one for digital cameras |
| 04:17.31 | Zxcvb_ | wierd size |
| 04:17.56 | rabbit_uk_ | don't know why they bothered. |
| 04:18.23 | Zxcvb_ | me either |
| 04:19.38 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: heard the UK might withdraw from the EU by illegal means |
| 04:21.21 | rabbit_uk_ | that's news to me. Where did u hear that? |
| 04:21.37 | H4NZ0 | define illegal means |
| 04:21.51 | rabbit_uk_ | Central Europeans make jokes about the UK withdrawing and joining the states. |
| 04:23.47 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: to legally withdraw from the EU requires the approval of a certain number of member states |
| 04:23.54 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: from what I have heard |
| 04:24.04 | Zxcvb_ | rabbit_uk_: or norway |
| 04:24.18 | H4NZ0 | hmm that sux |
| 04:24.41 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: so what happens if the uk or even the netherlands just declares their independance from the EU? |
| 04:25.48 | H4NZ0 | well.. the EU board will be pissed.. I guess |
| 04:26.01 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: war in europe? |
| 04:26.10 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: just like the US's so called "civil war" |
| 04:27.24 | H4NZ0 | I dont think so.. war costs too much |
| 04:27.44 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: conventional war does |
| 04:28.06 | rabbit_uk_ | does /usr/bin mount from somewhere? |
| 04:28.38 | H4NZ0 | so what kind of war it will be ? |
| 04:28.53 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: blockade? |
| 04:28.57 | freaker | anyone know if Xircom Pocket Ethernet Adapter III model PE3-10BT works on a Zaurus? |
| 04:28.59 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: asymetric warfare? |
| 04:30.37 | H4NZ0 | blockade just by the EU wont effect much.. |
| 04:30.45 | H4NZ0 | asymetric warfare ? whats that |
| 04:31.23 | Wintre | What Israel does to Palestine? |
| 04:31.54 | H4NZ0 | oic |
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| 04:33.16 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: no, blockade |
| 04:33.24 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: not embargo |
| 04:33.41 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: with a blockade, the EU prevents any ships and aircraft from entering or leaving |
| 04:33.55 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: so no one can trade with the UK without being shot down or sunk |
| 04:34.08 | Zxcvb_ | Wintre: terrorism is one form of asymetric warfare |
| 04:34.39 | Zxcvb_ | Wintre: so is "cyber terrorism" (assuming things like power plants and water treatment facilities are even allowed on the net) |
| 04:34.49 | Zxcvb_ | Wintre: electromagnetic warfare |
| 04:35.07 | H4NZ0 | hmm.. UK is in the outer side of europe, isnt it ? |
| 04:35.08 | Zxcvb_ | Wintre: all WMDs, pretty much |
| 04:35.16 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: yeah |
| 04:35.21 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: and easily surrounded |
| 04:36.22 | Zxcvb_ | H4NZ0: unlike an embargo (refusal to trade), a blockade is an act of war |
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| 04:37.42 | H4NZ0 | I just want to find a precompiled Zstyle *sigh* |
| 04:37.59 | H4NZ0 | gtg |
| 04:41.38 | Wintre | Um |
| 04:41.46 | Wintre | What's "so called" about the US's civil war? |
| 04:42.26 | Zxcvb_ | there was nothing civil about it |
| 04:42.59 | Wintre | Oh? |
| 04:43.54 | Wintre | What do you think "civil war" means then? |
| 04:44.24 | Zxcvb_ | not much |
| 04:44.35 | Wintre | From WordNet (r) 1.7 [wn]: |
| 04:44.35 | Wintre | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.35 | Wintre | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.11 | Zxcvb_ | yeah, just like how most kazaa users are pirates |
| 04:48.27 | Wintre | WTF are you talking about? |
| 04:48.29 | Zxcvb_ | and of course, downloading off of kazaa is the same morally as rape, torture, murder, burning down entire cities |
| 04:48.34 | Wintre | That's the definition of "civil war" |
| 04:48.46 | Zxcvb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.47 | Zxcvb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.47 | Zxcvb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.52 | Wintre | Or do you think it means "polite warfare"? |
| 04:49.04 | anggarda | I don't need your civil war, it feeds the rich and it buries the poor. - GnR |
| 04:51.06 | |ryan| | Can someone help me? I'm trying to install termnial, but it says I need 'ptydevs'. Where can I get that. |
| 04:51.17 | |ryan| | s/\./\?/ |
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| 11:10.48 | George- | lol |
| 11:11.01 | Johnmcl7 | Woohoo! :) |
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| 11:35.04 | ZzzGogo | did anyone manage to flash OZ 3 with a 16 MB flash, yet? |
| 11:35.35 | Jan_Zorz | may I repeat the question? |
| 11:35.52 | Jan_Zorz | Is there any functional GSM card with GPRS for Zaurus 5500 available? |
| 11:37.41 | George- | IBM laptops are well-known for being notoriously hard to crack. The passwords are stored on a seperate flash RAM chip on the motherboard, which is backed by a CRC checksum. In addition, the password is replicated on the hard drive, and when the BIOS password is set the exact same password is set on the hard drive. |
| 11:37.47 | George- | That just screams *OVERKILL* |
| 11:38.34 | Johnmcl7 | Jan_Zorz: There's very few availabe as it is |
| 11:38.48 | Johnmcl7 | There's only one I've seen for sale |
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| 11:42.33 | Johnmcl7 | Eek |
| 11:42.38 | ZzzGogo | heehee |
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| 11:52.31 | ZzzGogo | eyas.... would i choose the 48/16 oz image when i got 'memory is low, please close this application' with koqueror severeal times? |
| 11:52.53 | ZzzGogo | rather than 40/24 image i menat... |
| 11:53.31 | Jan_Zorz | Johnmcl7: which brand? name? |
| 12:01.48 | Johnmcl7 | The only one I've seen is the Audiovox rtm8000 |
| 12:02.15 | Johnmcl7 | Which doesn't advertise compatibility with the Zaurus if it works... |
| 12:28.11 | George- | Johnmcl7: So you bought the CF wlan card? |
| 12:28.22 | Johnmcl7 | Yep |
| 12:28.22 | Johnmcl7 | :/ |
| 12:28.32 | George- | Johnmcl7: why the :/? |
| 12:28.58 | Johnmcl7 | Because it's probably not going to work for me and I'm going to tear out all my hair and wish I hadn't bought it |
| 12:29.16 | Johnmcl7 | Plus I'm going to have to probably flash the rom as well which I don't like the sound of |
| 12:29.29 | George- | If you don't want it, I'll have it |
| 12:29.30 | George- | :) |
| 12:29.42 | George- | (for like, 50 quid + P&P) |
| 12:30.08 | Johnmcl7 | No, yuo're supposed to convince me it's going to work, and it's going to be great! |
| 12:30.12 | George- | lol |
| 12:30.18 | George- | just use OpenZaurus |
| 12:30.20 | George- | It r0x0rs |
| 12:31.16 | Johnmcl7 | I want to get to grips with the Zaurus before I start pissing about with it ;) |
| 12:31.26 | Johnmcl7 | How easy is it to flash the rom? |
| 12:31.47 | Johnmcl7 | Most of the devices I have, you're not supposed to do it yourself so it can be a bit messy |
| 12:32.02 | George- | It's *very* easy to flash the ROM |
| 12:32.09 | George- | I'm not sure how the 5500 works |
| 12:32.09 | |ryan| | bleh.... |
| 12:32.19 | Johnmcl7 | Do Sharp support it? |
| 12:32.21 | George- | but the 5000D uses the CF to flash |
| 12:32.25 | George- | Johnmcl7: they don't care :) |
| 12:32.38 | Johnmcl7 | So what's the best way to flash the 5500? |
| 12:32.47 | George- | well |
| 12:32.48 | George- | to flash OZ |
| 12:32.53 | George- | you'll NEED a 32MB CF disk |
| 12:32.55 | |ryan| | anyone know how to enable routing on linux? |
| 12:32.59 | George- | (they're like, 15 quid these days) |
| 12:33.07 | George- | ibot usbdnet |
| 12:33.07 | | hmm... usbdnet is make sure you're using the NEW UHCI kernel driver and not the alternate.. (deselect the uhci driver in usb in kernel config and you will get a choice of either alternate or new) or http://oss.lineo.com/usb/ |
| 12:33.12 | George- | stupid ibot |
| 12:33.13 | Johnmcl7 | I have a 64 MB cf card and a 32 MB MMC |
| 12:33.25 | |ryan| | I've got the zaurus on usb0 and my lan on eth0. |
| 12:33.26 | George- | Johnmcl7: ok, do you have a CF writer on your desktop? |
| 12:33.49 | Johnmcl7 | Not yet, I'm going to buy a PCMCIA adaptor |
| 12:33.53 | George- | ifconfig usb0 192.168.129.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 up |
| 12:33.53 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.53 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.53 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.53 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.58 | |ryan| | I got it talking to webmin, but i can't get to my lan, or the internnet |
| 12:34.02 | George- | On the Z: |
| 12:34.03 | George- | route add -host 192.168.129.200 usbd0 |
| 12:34.04 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.04 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.13 | George- | Johnmcl7: ok |
| 12:34.17 | George- | Johnmcl7: When you get the thing |
| 12:34.23 | George- | Johnmcl7: download OZ from www.openzaurus.org |
| 12:34.35 | George- | put the initrd on the CF disk as filename "initrd.bin" |
| 12:34.37 | |ryan| | George-: I don't think I need nat |
| 12:34.41 | George- | put the kernel on as "zImage" |
| 12:34.55 | George- | and make a bootflag.txt on the CF disk that has "OZ30" in it |
| 12:35.03 | George- | then you put the card in the Z |
| 12:35.09 | George- | plug mains power in |
| 12:35.15 | George- | take off the battery compartment |
| 12:35.20 | George- | open up the keyboard |
| 12:35.40 | |ryan| | and I don't have iptables installed..... |
| 12:35.41 | George- | hit the C and D buttons simultaneously, whilst hitting the full reset button with the stylus tip :) |
| 12:35.49 | George- | |ryan|: well I dunno then |
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| 12:40.03 | |ryan| | George-: and, I don't have the termnial on the zaurus.... |
| 12:40.19 | |ryan| | it was complaining avout ptydevs not being installed |
| 12:41.44 | George- | |ryan|: which ROM are you using? |
| 12:42.19 | |ryan| | 2.37 |
| 12:42.24 | George- | hrmm |
| 12:42.27 | George- | I dunno then |
| 12:42.38 | George- | I don't have a 5500 :) |
| 12:42.41 | Johnmcl7 | Did you put 2.37 on yourself? |
| 12:42.45 | |ryan| | no |
| 12:42.54 | |ryan| | it was shiped with it |
| 12:44.05 | |ryan| | i force-installed it, seems fine... |
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| 12:55.58 | Jan_Zorz | anyone managed to make Audiovox rtm8000 card work with 5500 ? |
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| 13:07.19 | George- | ahh.. just reinstalled my screen protector |
| 13:07.24 | George- | Johnmcl7: btw - is your Z new? |
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| 13:08.28 | George- | hello rabbit_uk_ |
| 13:08.33 | Johnmcl7 | George-Yes |
| 13:08.40 | Johnmcl7 | Got it yesterday morning |
| 13:08.44 | rabbit_uk_ | hey George |
| 13:08.53 | George- | Johnmcl7: have you got a screen protector? |
| 13:09.01 | Johnmcl7 | The hinged thing? |
| 13:09.05 | George- | (a little plastic thing that you shove between the screen and the casing? |
| 13:09.25 | Johnmcl7 | I don't think so |
| 13:09.45 | George- | Take a little advice, go buy one :) |
| 13:09.54 | Johnmcl7 | Any recommendations where? |
| 13:10.03 | George- | www.pdascreenprotectors.com |
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| 13:10.11 | George- | They are the most robust that I've found |
| 13:10.18 | George- | when they're in place, you can't tell they are there |
| 13:10.24 | George- | They're absolutely clear |
| 13:10.30 | George- | and one will last for years |
| 13:10.52 | Johnmcl7 | Cool |
| 13:11.27 | George- | ffs |
| 13:11.41 | George- | Why the heck do I need to put in company info for signing up to the Zaurus developer program |
| 13:11.42 | George- | GRRRRR |
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| 13:18.17 | George- | ****ARRRRGHHHHHH* |
| 13:18.30 | George- | STUPID DUMB FUCKING ANNOYING ZAURUS.COM |
| 13:18.30 | Johnmcl7 | ?? |
| 13:18.54 | George- | I signed up for developer thingy |
| 13:19.05 | George- | and it requires all this crap about company |
| 13:19.16 | George- | I'm a kid, and I don't *have* a company |
| 13:19.28 | George- | OK, so I put in a load of bollocks, in company details "I do not have a company" |
| 13:19.33 | George- | then the damn next button won't work |
| 13:19.37 | George- | so the whole lot bombs out |
| 13:19.45 | George- | and I can't login, cos it says my username don't exist |
| 13:19.48 | rabbit_uk_ | lie |
| 13:19.53 | |ryan| | c-tech astronmy |
| 13:19.55 | |ryan| | ;) |
| 13:20.02 | George- | and I can't create a new user, cos it claims I am already registered |
| 13:20.05 | George- | (£*$&%@$(£%&(@$£&%*($@£%&(@$%&($@£%@ |
| 13:20.19 | |ryan| | George-: You ARE a brit.... |
| 13:20.29 | George- | zaurus.com is the spawn of Redmond!!! |
| 13:20.35 | George- | |ryan|: ? |
| 13:20.37 | rabbit_uk_ | enter a joke company name or something. |
| 13:20.42 | |ryan| | I figured as much when you mention quid |
| 13:20.43 | George- | rabbit_uk_: I did |
| 13:20.51 | George- | rabbit_uk_: but the next button wouldn't work in Konqueror |
| 13:21.04 | rabbit_uk_ | hmmm....what happened? |
| 13:21.10 | George- | rabbit_uk_: nothing? |
| 13:21.11 | |ryan| | and that string of garbage contained a £.... |
| 13:21.28 | |ryan| | not easily typed on an american keyboard |
| 13:21.49 | rabbit_uk_ | mebbe the page didn't load properly. |
| 13:22.25 | rabbit_uk_ | anyone know where the sym link to "find" is stored on the Z? |
| 13:22.54 | George- | |ryan|: what relevance has that to do with anything? |
| 13:23.00 | George- | :) |
| 13:27.56 | SillyZ | isnt it find -> busybox |
| 13:28.10 | |ryan| | George-: just an observation |
| 13:28.43 | |ryan| | oh, i managed to get my zaurus to see my lan, but now I can't get it pas my firewall |
| 13:28.52 | George- | lol |
| 13:29.39 | |ryan| | you were right, I had to add a route on the zaurus |
| 13:29.48 | George- | =PPP |
| 13:30.30 | |ryan| | heh |
| 13:32.56 | SillyZ | Im using the 64/0 image and moved everything to the SD Card for installed apps, etc |
| 13:36.53 | rabbit_uk_ | sillyz: the binary is stored in busybox but still there needs to be a symlink to the busybox. find isn't being recognised ATM |
| 13:38.07 | numatrix | rabbit_uk_: you can address it like: busybix find parameters as well. |
| 13:38.12 | numatrix | busybox, rather |
| 13:39.31 | rabbit_uk_ | I'm trying to work out which directories have vanished on my Z. It's currently not booting into Qtopia because it can't find a load of commands. /usr/bin definitely has gone. |
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| 13:45.39 | George- | Has QNX been made to work on the Z yet? |
| 13:46.38 | George- | OK, now trying to enroll in the developer program within Mozilla.... |
| 13:46.45 | rabbit_uk_ | numatrix how many mounts do you have? |
| 14:02.13 | rabbit_uk_ | george: any luck? |
| 14:02.45 | George- | rabbit_uk_: at last, yes |
| 14:02.51 | George- | rabbit_uk_: I need to wait for my application to be allowed |
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| 14:05.09 | numatrix | rabbit_uk_: mounts or links? |
| 14:06.27 | rabbit_uk_ | numatrix: mounts would be good. Also when I press <tab> at the cli it reports 259 executables. |
| 14:06.36 | George- | uhm |
| 14:07.01 | rabbit_uk_ | i.e. what do you get when you type 'mount' |
| 14:07.20 | George- | where the HECK have all the OZ feeds gone?!?!??! |
| 14:09.38 | numatrix | rabbit_uk_: one sec |
| 14:09.47 | numatrix | George-: they got reorganized |
| 14:10.08 | George- | numatrix: where to...? |
| 14:10.10 | rabbit_uk_ | numatrix: cheers |
| 14:10.14 | numatrix | George-: I'm looking now. ;-) |
| 14:10.19 | numatrix | George-: I forget; one sec. |
| 14:10.38 | George- | ibot openzaurus |
| 14:10.39 | | rumour has it, openzaurus is an alternative linux distribution for the Sharp SL-5[50]00[dg]{0,1} PDA. See http://www.openzaurus.org/. Also ask me about oz faq, oz feed, oz bk, oz release, or oz prerelease. And dont forget to /join #openzaurus. |
| 14:10.40 | George- | ibot feeds |
| 14:10.41 | | methinks feeds is listed at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds or at http://zfi.zaurii.com/ |
| 14:10.45 | George- | DIE! |
| 14:12.58 | numatrix | George-: http://openzaurus.org/official/ I couldn't remember so I checked in #oz ;-) |
| 14:13.27 | George- | thx |
| 14:13.55 | numatrix | George-: sure thing |
| 14:15.35 | numatrix | rabbit_uk_: You run openzaurus or sharp? |
| 14:15.42 | rabbit_uk_ | sharp |
| 14:16.01 | numatrix | rabbit_uk_: Hmm, nevermind then, I can't help you with the mounts and all that. I'm using openzaurus. |
| 14:16.54 | rabbit_uk_ | anyone running the Sharp ROM here? |
| 14:16.57 | numatrix | Wierd; redhat put out new apache rpms for 7.2 (possibly others), and yet I don't see any errata or advisories about it. |
| 14:22.40 | SillyZ | kerg / tmm / either of you know if a 64/0 is available for the unstable kernel ?? |
| 14:34.17 | George- | SFCave is addictive!!!!!!!!! |
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| 15:49.29 | Johnmcl7 | Is there any way to deactivate the Zaurus screen when playing mp3s? |
| 15:51.27 | ljp_work | yes - which player? |
| 15:51.37 | Johnmcl7 | The one which comes with the Z |
| 15:51.44 | ljp_work | or should be anyway |
| 15:51.59 | ljp_work | oh.. not that one, unless you install an app called blind |
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| 16:04.37 | JasonNJ | man what a bunch of whiners on the new forums |
| 16:04.43 | Johnmcl7 | :/ |
| 16:04.59 | Johnmcl7 | Problems with the Z itself or what? |
| 16:05.03 | chouimat | JasonNJ: really I didn't read it yet |
| 16:05.19 | JasonNJ | no people complaining I shut down the forums on ZaurusZone |
| 16:05.28 | Johnmcl7 | Oh |
| 16:05.31 | Johnmcl7 | Where are the new ones then? |
| 16:05.36 | JasonNJ | zaurus.com |
| 16:05.48 | Johnmcl7 | So what's the problem? |
| 16:06.09 | XavierXeon | JasonNJ: i have only one thing to complain abiut that : my nick is too long :) |
| 16:06.09 | JasonNJ | i set the old forums to read only... they want to still participate on the old ones |
| 16:06.35 | JasonNJ | we're having a few issues with our signup process but we will resolve them by early next week |
| 16:06.39 | JasonNJ | maybe even by the weekend |
| 16:07.09 | ljp_work | jason: I still can not log into cvs.zaurus.com |
| 16:07.39 | ljp_work | I just uploaded my ssh1 key, so manybe once it rotates I can use that method |
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| 16:09.29 | JasonNJ | ljp if it still dont work touch base with fusion94@isquare.org |
| 16:15.15 | zecke | JasonNJ: what will be the next Sharp device? |
| 16:15.26 | zecke | JasonNJ: will it use the PXA250 or PXA260? |
| 16:15.33 | ljp_work | the Sharp LazerBlazer |
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| 16:24.08 | kergoth | hmm |
| 16:24.09 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.09 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.11 | kergoth | lol |
| 16:24.18 | kergoth | i love reading other people's code |
| 16:24.38 | Johnmcl7 | Probably not mine |
| 16:24.40 | Pend-Gone | lmao |
| 16:24.41 | ljp_work | where's that? |
| 16:24.44 | kergoth | ljp_work: qt/e |
| 16:24.56 | Pend-Gone | sounds like something I would do |
| 16:25.11 | ljp_work | ahh. sometimes they like to use QString s; or int i; |
| 16:25.26 | Pend-Gone | cept mine usually pertains to food etc... int krispy_kreme; etc |
| 16:25.28 | ljp_work | or obscure class pointers like d |
| 16:26.03 | Pend-Gone | I generally get over it and fix it later on.. whenever I get over the idea |
| 16:27.29 | Pend-Gone | argh.. bbl.. figures, the moment I sit down the baby wants to eat |
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| 16:28.22 | chouimat | ibot: seen benmeyer |
| 16:28.22 | | benmeyer <~ben@gatekeepernj3.sharpsec.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 18h 29m 22s ago, saying: 'nothing like soup to help a cold'. |
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| 18:05.56 | phoen][x | kergoth: heh. so there are no good news for me? :) |
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| 19:08.00 | George- | I'm addicted to SFCave |
| 19:08.40 | noda | Fun, eh :) |
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| 19:10.11 | ljp_alt | you need SFCave anonymous |
| 19:10.36 | George- | `/ |
| 19:10.38 | George- | ? |
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| 19:23.42 | KGBudz | does zaurus have any hardware to use pcmcia cards? |
| 19:25.23 | noda | I think so :) |
| 19:25.32 | George- | £ |
| 19:25.35 | George- | Whoops |
| 19:25.39 | George- | KGBudz: yes |
| 19:25.46 | George- | KGBudz: but there's no PCMCIA slot |
| 19:25.53 | noda | I've found a site that is full of false statements, but the gist of it is that there's some way to do it: http://www.parra.com/Zaurus/v1n1/pcmcia.html |
| 19:25.55 | George- | KGBudz: the SA1110 can support two PCMCIA slots afaik |
| 19:25.59 | noda | Don't believe a single statement, they're all wrong :) |
| 19:26.03 | troffasky | no that's old zaurii |
| 19:26.16 | KGBudz | so there isnt like a pcmcia add on jacket for the zaurus |
| 19:26.18 | troffasky | ie not the SL-series |
| 19:26.19 | KGBudz | like they got for ipaq |
| 19:26.31 | George- | Copyright © 1995 Charles Parra |
| 19:26.42 | George- | The Linux based Zs weren't out in 1995 :) |
| 19:26.54 | George- | KGBudz: no |
| 19:27.21 | George- | You can get CF -> PCMCIA converters, but they are very far and few between |
| 19:27.37 | George- | It requires it's own power supply to provide 5V and not 3.3V |
| 19:27.44 | George- | and it requires a larger form factor |
| 19:27.47 | George- | (afaict) |
| 19:28.11 | KGBudz | ya, screw that |
| 19:28.28 | George- | lol |
| 19:29.00 | KGBudz | any plans of the new zaurus supporting stereo input instead of mono? |
| 19:29.31 | George- | dunno |
| 19:29.49 | George- | ibot seen mark_ |
| 19:29.51 | | mark_ <~mark@212.126.148.10> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 4d 21h 43m 45s ago, saying: 'mcuk_storm: nah'. |
| 19:29.51 | George- | ibot seen mark |
| 19:29.51 | | mark <~mark@212.126.148.10> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 3d 17m 10s ago, saying: 'yeah'. |
| 19:36.19 | George- | cool, I'm now a zaurus.com developer :) |
| 19:36.26 | treke|laptop | cool |
| 19:36.46 | treke|laptop | maybe I'll put the app I'm working on on zaurus.com once it does that magic thing it should do |
| 19:37.24 | George- | treke|laptop: ? |
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| 20:00.31 | jserv | Does anyone know where to download the newest version of Konqueror/Embedded? |
| 20:01.07 | Cloudchaser | zsi maybe? |
| 20:01.07 | George- | konqueror.org? |
| 20:01.34 | jserv | George-: ipkg? |
| 20:01.34 | George- | ibot zsi konqueror |
| 20:01.50 | kergoth`lunch | jserv: its in the openzuarus unstable feed, among other places. its around |
| 20:02.04 | treke|laptop | jserv: konq hasnt really been upgraded much. Mostly rebuilds |
| 20:02.36 | numatrix | treke: There was an update from today; is that just a rebuild? |
| 20:02.45 | George- | yo kergoth |
| 20:02.51 | George- | kergoth: Is today the same as a monday, then? |
| 20:03.11 | kergoth | George-: nah, its just a friday |
| 20:03.25 | George- | the 13th |
| 20:03.28 | George- | =P |
| 20:03.32 | jserv | treke|laptop: Thanks. But I would like to find some useful patches like plugins for Konq/E |
| 20:03.32 | kergoth | true that |
| 20:03.34 | George- | Did you get the touch scren to work? |
| 20:03.43 | kergoth | no, oz 3.1rc1 is still borked |
| 20:05.11 | kergoth | well since you cant |
| 20:05.15 | kergoth | thats fine |
| 20:05.21 | kergoth | oz 3.1rc1's initrd isnt availble :) |
| 20:05.29 | George- | lol |
| 20:05.37 | George- | ok |
| 20:05.46 | George- | *I wonder* (sarcastically) |
| 20:06.08 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 20:07.00 | George- | Grrrrrr |
| 20:07.06 | George- | XChat keeps crashing |
| 20:07.25 | noda | George-: Compile the latest xchat2 from cvs :) |
| 20:07.40 | George- | noda: hell no |
| 20:07.52 | noda | Why not? Works fine for me :) |
| 20:08.16 | noda | Never crashes :) |
| 20:08.30 | noda | Ick :P |
| 20:08.39 | noda | Some people don't trust CVS at all. |
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| 20:08.48 | KopeteUser | hrmm |
| 20:08.52 | noda | My openbox CVS never crashes... my gcc cvs never screws up. |
| 20:08.54 | George2 | Cool |
| 20:09.00 | George2 | Kopete is pretty cool |
| 20:09.03 | George2 | I might use this full time |
| 20:09.03 | noda | My mozilla cvs runs great. |
| 20:13.05 | Neo|Work | how much does a Zaurus retail for today? |
| 20:13.39 | George- | check on Froogle :) |
| 20:13.49 | Neo|Work | wtf is froogie? :P |
| 20:14.05 | kergoth | froogle is sweet |
| 20:14.06 | noda | Neo|Work: http://froogle.google.com/froogle |
| 20:15.53 | Neo|Work | cool |
| 20:15.56 | Neo|Work | like pricewatch type thing |
| 20:16.09 | noda | Only google-ized. Much better :) |
| 20:16.20 | noda | (except for the missing "sort by price" |
| 20:16.20 | KotH_ | konban wa |
| 20:16.21 | noda | ) |
| 20:16.39 | George- | Froogle rocks |
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| 20:17.11 | warmi | hi |
| 20:17.47 | Neo|Work | no sorting by price though |
| 20:17.55 | kergoth | ? |
| 20:17.56 | Neo|Work | noda: right. no such sorting |
| 20:17.58 | Neo|Work | that is a problem |
| 20:18.02 | kergoth | yep, it is |
| 20:18.04 | Neo|Work | kergoth: froggle... |
| 20:18.06 | kergoth | if they add that, itd rock |
| 20:18.17 | Neo|Work | pricewatch actually still has a better interface |
| 20:18.22 | treke|laptop | considering how much google rocks, they probably will |
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| 20:22.45 | George- | hi warmi |
| 20:41.16 | JasonNJ | hey cool, the Thing from the Fantastic Four is Jewish. |
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| 20:42.05 | George- | JasonNJ: do you do anything with www.zaurus.com? |
| 20:47.19 | Neo|Work | http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=buttplug lol |
| 20:49.58 | Neo|Work | "Buttplug Relief Hot Sauce" |
| 20:51.06 | JasonNJ | George: I mainly take abuse |
| 20:52.19 | JasonNJ | neo: you are too obsessed with things rectal |
| 20:52.38 | kergoth | lol, true that |
| 20:52.52 | Neo|Work | JasonNJ: dude, I didn't search for that, I just pasted the URL from someone else |
| 20:52.53 | Neo|Work | :P |
| 20:53.04 | kergoth | Neo|Work: thats what they all say :P |
| 20:53.09 | George- | JasonNJ: Well.. this thing where you need to shove in a load of company details to enroll as a developer.. |
| 20:53.09 | JasonNJ | yeah, like gay spiderman! |
| 20:53.19 | George- | JasonNJ: I'm 14, and I have no company :) |
| 20:53.34 | JasonNJ | George: say you are an open source developer |
| 20:53.46 | JasonNJ | we dont age discriminate |
| 20:54.55 | George- | JasonNJ: Well, I made up a load of crap for that (company name etc) |
| 21:00.19 | warmi | heh |
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| 21:12.56 | fsa1gt | hi |
| 21:13.23 | Johnmcl7 | Hey George- |
| 21:13.44 | George- | hi |
| 21:17.57 | Johnmcl7 | Up to much? |
| 21:18.21 | troffasky | Johncml7: get your WLANIC? |
| 21:18.32 | Johnmcl7 | On its way |
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| 21:18.55 | Johnmcl7 | Although I don't know when I can try it |
| 21:19.10 | Johnmcl7 | Boss came in today and said we're working overtime everyday until next Friday :( |
| 21:19.34 | troffasky | mine got here today [3 day delivery? hmm...] but the SD card hasn't arrived yet so I'm waiting... |
| 21:19.46 | Johnmcl7 | When did you order yours, same day as mine? |
| 21:19.53 | troffasky | yesterday |
| 21:20.00 | troffasky | about 2.55pm |
| 21:20.08 | Johnmcl7 | !! |
| 21:20.11 | troffasky | 5 min before 3pm processing deadline |
| 21:20.14 | Johnmcl7 | Hmm |
| 21:20.25 | Johnmcl7 | I'll just have to wait and see for me |
| 21:20.30 | Johnmcl7 | Got it working then? |
| 21:21.09 | troffasky | well I've got to get all my stuff move to the SD card [which is in the post] and get my laptop one working too |
| 21:22.08 | Johnmcl7 | OK |
| 21:22.20 | troffasky | although I can hear it on my scanner :-) |
| 21:22.55 | Johnmcl7 | So you think it's working? |
| 21:23.17 | troff|away | yeah |
| 21:23.24 | troff|away | HIGNFY's on, cya! |
| 21:23.28 | Johnmcl7 | Cool |
| 21:27.32 | fsa1gt | bye |
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| 21:34.10 | Johnmcl7 | :O |
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| 21:41.41 | Johnmcl7 | wb George- |
| 21:41.50 | George- | ty |
| 21:41.54 | George- | XChat loves to crash |
| 21:41.58 | George- | For no real reason |
| 21:42.02 | George- | Perhaps it's Geramik... |
| 21:42.21 | Johnmcl7 | It's to try and persuade windows users to switch over to it ;) |
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| 21:46.18 | George- | http://kainga.quasarnet.org/people/trisk/die.html |
| 21:46.18 | George- | rofl |
| 21:46.53 | JasonNJ | http://www.mcphee.com/bigindex/current/11034.html |
| 21:47.03 | JasonNJ | thats a cool wrapping paper for xmas |
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| 21:50.05 | George- | JasonNJ: hahahaha |
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| 22:46.57 | aman | ibot seen com[plex |
| 22:47.05 | | com[plex <ANGRYMAN@65.217.160.228> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 1d 8h 18m 11s ago, saying: '"ones a sick duck, and I cant remember the rest, but your mothers a whore"'. |
| 22:47.05 | aman | ibot seen com[plex] |
| 22:47.05 | | com[plex] <ANGRYMAN@65.217.160.228> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 3d 1h 27m 2s ago, saying: 'hey kergoth'. |
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| 23:14.17 | Harlekin | hi * |
| 23:14.28 | George- | Hi H* |
| 23:14.40 | kergoth | re Harlekin |
| 23:14.48 | George- | Hi kergoth |
| 23:14.54 | George- | oh ffs |
| 23:14.55 | kergoth | hey george |
| 23:14.56 | George- | I hate hotmail |
| 23:15.04 | ljp_work | then divorse it |
| 23:15.08 | George- | "your password may not contain your first name" |
| 23:15.10 | ljp_work | divorce |
| 23:15.11 | kergoth | divorse? |
| 23:15.14 | kergoth | ;) |
| 23:15.14 | George- | "your password may not contain your last name" |
| 23:15.15 | ljp_work | blah |
| 23:15.24 | ljp_work | me bad spellr |
| 23:15.25 | George- | "your password is not long enough" (linux) |
| 23:15.36 | aman | hah |
| 23:15.50 | George- | trying "linuxrocks" |
| 23:15.51 | George- | lol |
| 23:16.02 | kergoth | ~lart George- on general principle |
| 23:16.04 | ljp_work | he thanks for telling us your password |
| 23:16.04 | kergoth | hm |
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| 23:16.22 | kergoth | lart needs to be changed to put words after the first one, at the end of the sentence |
| 23:16.34 | kergoth | ~fishslap George- on general principole |
| 23:16.38 | | ACTION slaps George- on general principole up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 23:16.45 | kergoth | that needs to be changed too |
| 23:16.46 | kergoth | grr |
| 23:18.12 | George- | kergoth: What have I done wrong now??? |
| 23:18.17 | treke|laptop | ~fishslap me |
| 23:18.21 | | ACTION slaps treke|laptop up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 23:18.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:18.27 | George- | ~eat me |
| 23:18.29 | | ACTION chomps George-'s head off, then gurgles around, and runs to the toilet |
| 23:18.29 | Harlekin | ~fishslap * |
| 23:18.32 | | ACTION slaps * up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 23:18.42 | kergoth | hah |
| 23:18.59 | kergoth | ~literal rlart |
| 23:19.00 | | rlart is <reply> see lart $randnick |
| 23:19.12 | kergoth | ~rfishslap is <reply> see fishslap $randnick |
| 23:19.13 | | okay, kergoth |
| 23:19.17 | kergoth | ~rfishslap |
| 23:19.29 | kergoth | hm |
| 23:19.31 | kergoth | ~rfishslap |
| 23:19.54 | kergoth | ibot: lart me |
| 23:19.59 | kergoth | ~rfishslap |
| 23:20.13 | kergoth | ibot: rfishslap |
| 23:20.18 | kergoth | hm |
| 23:20.46 | George- | how do I join msn instant messenger? |
| 23:20.55 | kergoth | create a hotmail account |
| 23:20.55 | George- | (I know, It's collaborating with evil) |
| 23:20.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:21.00 | George- | I did that |
| 23:21.04 | kergoth | you login to msn with your hotmail email addy and pass. |
| 23:21.08 | George- | But kopete won't authenticate |
| 23:22.03 | George- | pile of shit |
| 23:25.02 | George- | fuck that |
| 23:25.16 | George- | george_wright_linux@hotmail.com sucks |
| 23:25.17 | George- | :) |
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| 23:37.21 | PorkySpine | hello |
| 23:40.08 | PorkySpine | I have a problem. I installed the SDK from rpm (with --nodeps since i use a source-based distribution) |
| 23:41.25 | PorkySpine | and whem i try to make the example program that came, somethig like this appears: |
| 23:41.48 | PorkySpine | g++ -o example main.o example.o examplebase.o moc_example.o moc_examplebase.o -L/opt/Qtopia/lib -lqpe -lqte |
| 23:41.50 | PorkySpine | main.o: In function `main': |
| 23:41.50 | PorkySpine | main.o(.text+0x38): undefined reference to `QPEApplication::QPEApplication[in-charge](int&, char**, QApplication::Type)' |
| 23:41.50 | PorkySpine | main.o(.text+0x6c): undefined reference to `QPEApplication::showMainWidget(QWidget*, bool)' |
| 23:41.50 | PorkySpine | main.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to `QPEApplication::exec()' |
| 23:41.52 | PorkySpine | main.o(.text+0x86): undefined reference to `QPEApplication::~QPEApplication [in-charge]()' |
| 23:41.54 | PorkySpine | example.o: In function `Example::Example[not-in-charge](QWidget*, char const*, unsigned)': |
| 23:41.59 | PorkySpine | and it goes on and on.... |
| 23:42.28 | PorkySpine | this seems like it cant find some classes or something.... |
| 23:42.48 | kergoth | PorkySpine: the example is b0rked. try compilign something else |
| 23:43.14 | PorkySpine | ok. did it happend the same to you? |
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| 23:45.12 | warmi | PorkySpine: how's does #include for qpeapplication look like ? |
| 23:45.25 | warmi | in that example .. |
| 23:45.30 | warmi | can you paste that line here ? |
| 23:46.28 | PorkySpine | #include "example.h" |
| 23:46.28 | PorkySpine | #include <qpushbutton.h> |
| 23:46.43 | kergoth | PorkySpine: he asked for the include for qpeapplication |
| 23:46.50 | kergoth | PorkySpine: not the includes for example and qpushbutton |
| 23:47.05 | PorkySpine | oh! |
| 23:47.21 | George- | kergoth: hee |
| 23:47.25 | George- | s/hee/hehe |
| 23:48.01 | PorkySpine | #include <qpe/qpeapplication.h> |
| 23:48.07 | warmi | looks ok |
| 23:48.27 | warmi | do you have your env variables set ok ? |
| 23:48.33 | PorkySpine | yup |
| 23:48.47 | PorkySpine | at least as they said... |
| 23:49.15 | George- | kergoth: lol |
| 23:49.18 | George- | kergoth: what's wrong with it? |
| 23:49.47 | kergoth | George-: doesnt match whats on the zaurus. |
| 23:50.01 | George- | kergoth: ? |
| 23:50.02 | warmi | PorkySpine: I used that for a while |
| 23:50.12 | warmi | but I kept getting weird compiler errors |
| 23:50.17 | George- | kergoth: btw - does HancomWord work on OZ yet? |
| 23:50.20 | warmi | so I recompiled qpe + qte myself |
| 23:50.25 | kergoth | George-: works flawlessly |
| 23:50.29 | warmi | but that's not what you have .. |
| 23:50.33 | kergoth | George-: sandman fixed all remaining compatibility bugs |
| 23:50.49 | George- | kergoth: cool |
| 23:50.55 | George- | kergoth: what do I do to get it working then? |
| 23:50.58 | warmi | I was able to compile and everything - it is just sometimes I was getting (rare) errors with QValueList classes |
| 23:51.01 | warmi | I think your env is not set properly |
| 23:51.12 | kergoth | George-: ? |
| 23:51.20 | kergoth | George-: nothing. you build a hancom ipk and install it |
| 23:51.30 | George- | kergoth: do I need to install a new qt/e ipk |
| 23:51.44 | kergoth | George-: you *must* be on bleeding edge qt/e and opie both. |
| 23:51.55 | George- | ouch |
| 23:51.56 | kergoth | George-: you're probalby best off waiting for oz 3.1rc1, since current unstable feed is b0rked |
| 23:52.16 | George- | heh |
| 23:52.19 | George- | ok |
