| 00:00.01 | SillyZ | not sure where to go from here, the lights went off |
| 00:00.16 | NetAmp | lars_g: damnit, I shouldn't do RegEx at 1am ;) |
| 00:00.18 | lars_g | Oh nice, I looked at PicoGUI hard when I was considering the Agenda. |
| 00:00.29 | warmi | scanline: this is just freaky :->http://www.picogui.org/scrshots/20021121_3dbuttons.png |
| 00:00.33 | lars_g | NetAmp: Me neither I already have wasted one hour here also |
| 00:00.46 | scanline | it still needs apps, and documentation, and developers... but the architecture is pretty spiffy :) |
| 00:01.07 | lars_g | scanline: Nothing to do with the fact you made it, does it? |
| 00:01.10 | scanline | warmi: hehe.. I've been playing around with OpenGL a bit, a friend of mine and I are going to use picogui as an in-game UI |
| 00:01.14 | scanline | lars_g: no |
| 00:01.18 | warmi | hehe |
| 00:01.32 | warmi | alright, time for me .. have a nice weekend folks |
| 00:01.33 | NetAmp | lars_g: hah, wasted? how can you waste your time talking mostly nonsense on IRC ;-) |
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| 00:01.42 | lars_g | scanline: Btw I did consider it for a few embedded ideas but I have a radical opinon about GUIs |
| 00:01.47 | NetAmp | i'm wasted |
| 00:02.18 | lars_g | NetAmp: You're right, thanks for bringing me back to my senses, and now that my boss forced me to take back some functions (which will make me have to recode stuff latter) I have less to do. |
| 00:02.21 | NetAmp | i should #/bin/sh sleep |
| 00:02.33 | lars_g | lol |
| 00:02.36 | NetAmp | lars_g: hahaha |
| 00:02.42 | br33zy | NetAmp: #/bin/sh halt |
| 00:02.52 | NetAmp | br33zy: :D |
| 00:03.08 | NetAmp | ~$ shutdown -h now |
| 00:03.09 | | NetAmp: no idea |
| 00:03.19 | NetAmp | huh? what's ibot doing... |
| 00:03.23 | NetAmp | ~ test |
| 00:03.23 | | Test failed! |
| 00:03.24 | br33zy | hey ibot |
| 00:03.28 | br33zy | ~ test |
| 00:03.29 | | Test failed! |
| 00:03.33 | oob | ~ help |
| 00:03.33 | | WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING HELP MENUS |
| 00:03.34 | br33zy | ~ hi |
| 00:03.34 | | br33zy: are you smoking crack? |
| 00:03.39 | lars_g | scanline: My position is easy, there are no medium places in the embedded market, either you have enoguh power and want to offer more and use more complicated GUIs like Opie and the such, or you have minimal power and base on titleless buttonless etc etc GUIs. |
| 00:03.41 | br33zy | ~ hell no |
| 00:03.41 | | bugger all, i dunno, br33zy |
| 00:03.41 | NetAmp | huh, is ~ a secret ibot shortcut?? |
| 00:03.47 | NetAmp | ~ slashdot |
| 00:03.48 | | wish i knew, NetAmp |
| 00:03.48 | br33zy | i dunno |
| 00:03.52 | br33zy | ibot you suck |
| 00:03.52 | | :( |
| 00:03.55 | br33zy | lol |
| 00:03.55 | NetAmp | ibot slashdot |
| 00:03.59 | scanline | lars_g: it's not that way at all |
| 00:04.00 | br33zy | ibot insult NetAmp |
| 00:04.07 | NetAmp | ibot shoot br33zy |
| 00:04.07 | | NetAmp: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 00:04.12 | NetAmp | argh ;) |
| 00:04.17 | br33zy | lol |
| 00:04.19 | br33zy | ibot say hi |
| 00:04.20 | | no I don't want to |
| 00:04.27 | br33zy | ibot screw you |
| 00:04.28 | | br33zy: are you smoking crack? |
| 00:04.30 | George- | hey scanline |
| 00:04.32 | NetAmp | ibot die |
| 00:04.32 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless. |
| 00:04.33 | NetAmp | ~ die |
| 00:04.33 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless. |
| 00:04.33 | br33zy | heh |
| 00:04.35 | George- | scanline: I found a working ppc -> arm toolchain :) |
| 00:04.36 | NetAmp | ~ coffee |
| 00:04.37 | | i guess coffee is for staying awake |
| 00:04.40 | lars_g | scanline: I never said it has to be that way I only say my position at this time is quite radical |
| 00:04.43 | br33zy | sugar give NetAmp coffee |
| 00:04.46 | lars_g | hmmmm |
| 00:04.47 | NetAmp | thanks :D |
| 00:04.51 | br33zy | :-) |
| 00:04.57 | scanline | lars_g: pretty much all devices being made now have the CPU power and space for whatever GUI you want, but due to input device, screen space, or app constraints, they're done with one-off featureless GUIs |
| 00:05.01 | NetAmp | but I'm still sleepy... C-y'all l8r |
| 00:05.06 | lars_g | ~ dissasemble 0x00000000 |
| 00:05.07 | | lars_g: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 00:05.40 | lars_g | ~ list internals |
| 00:05.41 | | lars_g: i don't know |
| 00:05.50 | lars_g | ~ shoot_bill_gates(); |
| 00:05.51 | | lars_g: I give up, what is it? |
| 00:06.07 | lars_g | nah nothing new, still it's a keyword and much shorter than ibot: nice nice |
| 00:06.43 | George- | it's so funny when people at school say I'm gonna be the next Bill gates, and wonder why I take it as an insult :) |
| 00:06.45 | lars_g | ~ eat a macarroni |
| 00:06.46 | | lars_g: no idea |
| 00:06.54 | lars_g | George-: LOL |
| 00:07.53 | BZFlag | ~fishslap Bill Gates |
| 00:07.54 | | ACTION slaps Bill Gates up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:08.05 | SillyZ | woohooo |
| 00:08.13 | SillyZ | its booting!!! muuuahaahahahhahahaahhahaha |
| 00:08.18 | lars_g | Ack, chinese and Opera do not mix |
| 00:08.34 | lars_g | SillyZ: Congrats :) |
| 00:08.35 | Dessimat0r | blowflish or 3DES? |
| 00:08.40 | Dessimat0r | blowfish ;) |
| 00:08.49 | Dessimat0r | in WinSCP |
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| 00:09.24 | lars_g | That's it i'll learn japanese by lookign at the GPL on japanese until I understand it |
| 00:09.32 | George- | wb scanline |
| 00:09.40 | scanline | thanks |
| 00:10.03 | BZFlag | ~x en jp xGNUx General Public License |
| 00:10.08 | lars_g | By then I would be half deranged but I'd be a Japanese speaking madman |
| 00:10.40 | George- | engrish!!! |
| 00:11.01 | George- | right, I'm off |
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| 00:11.05 | George- | I wanna get *some* sleep |
| 00:11.08 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:11.10 | George- | lol |
| 00:11.12 | lars_g | YOU'RE MAD |
| 00:11.13 | hardwire | you don't wanna know what I wanna get |
| 00:12.18 | lars_g | *agggg* *gasp* |
| 00:12.45 | lars_g | Die die!! |
| 00:12.51 | Dessimat0r | What we need is a coffee to wake you up in the morning, and a coffee to make you feel tired at night, to get some sleeeepp |
| 00:13.22 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 00:13.37 | lars_g | Dessimat0r: seems you know ADD people, don't you? |
| 00:13.50 | lars_g | adhd to be precise |
| 00:14.33 | Dessimat0r | ADD people? |
| 00:14.58 | lars_g | If Tron were real that would be the death penalty, you'd be sentenced to /dev/null and jailings would be done by chrooting you |
| 00:15.05 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 00:15.36 | lars_g | Dessimat0r: Atention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, we're the only ones who drink a load of coffe and calm down. |
| 00:15.39 | Dessimat0r | o root is your god o |
| 00:15.53 | lars_g | Stimulants work as calmants for us |
| 00:15.53 | Dessimat0r | heh |
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| 00:16.01 | Dessimat0r | yeah |
| 00:16.13 | Dessimat0r | caffiene has no effect |
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| 00:30.30 | Com[Plex] | http://www.wiu.edu/users/jrt111/hissy.html |
| 00:30.32 | Com[Plex] | omg |
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| 00:35.35 | Dessimat0r | lmao |
| 00:36.10 | Com[Plex] | anyone know what kind of snake that is?/ was / |
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| 00:40.21 | ljp | one without legs? |
| 00:40.28 | KotH | good night |
| 00:40.42 | Com[Plex] | one without life as well. |
| 00:47.05 | angry | BZFlag: any possibility of BZFlag on the Z? :-P |
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| 00:57.41 | Dessimat0r | you can get Debian sources for bzflag |
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| 01:03.34 | badalex | woot! it is so cool, finaly you can change your alarm sounds |
| 01:03.44 | Dessimat0r | ?! |
| 01:03.46 | badalex | lol |
| 01:03.53 | badalex | my dad is makeing a program to do it :) |
| 01:03.59 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 01:03.59 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 01:04.03 | Dessimat0r | for the Z? |
| 01:04.06 | badalex | yep |
| 01:04.08 | Dessimat0r | 0wnage |
| 01:04.12 | badalex | he is gonna put it on myzaurus |
| 01:04.20 | badalex | but not for a while early beta lol |
| 01:04.25 | Dessimat0r | so we will have other sounds than high/low? |
| 01:04.32 | badalex | but i dont know if it will work on oz... |
| 01:04.37 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 01:04.45 | badalex | Dessimat0r: differnt alarm sounds, taps, key clicks etc |
| 01:04.48 | Dessimat0r | release the source, it will be adapted ;) |
| 01:04.53 | badalex | he does |
| 01:05.05 | badalex | g2g lol |
| 01:05.08 | badalex | later |
| 01:05.09 | Dessimat0r | excellent |
| 01:05.09 | Dessimat0r | cu |
| 01:06.26 | omoore | speaking of software for the z... |
| 01:06.34 | omoore | i use smbmount package alot... |
| 01:06.42 | omoore | will finish up a gui to it... |
| 01:06.54 | omoore | this weekend, this first release... |
| 01:07.32 | omoore | will simply ask.. host[_____] share[_____] uname[_____] pass[_____] mountpoint[____] |
| 01:07.41 | omoore | (using a normal gui of course) |
| 01:07.53 | omoore | anyone think this is of value for general population? |
| 01:08.02 | omoore | or is there an app someone knows that does this already? |
| 01:08.27 | omoore | would make it easy to mount a smb share from pc/another z/etc... |
| 01:08.56 | omoore | right now i drop to the shell and execute the smbmount command manually |
| 01:09.42 | omoore | once smbclient is ported, you could even query for hosts/shares |
| 01:10.20 | omoore | maybe even make the app tabbed, one tab for adding smb shares, one for nfs shares, etc. |
| 01:10.40 | omoore | proly need a status tab to let you umount them too |
| 01:10.54 | Dessimat0r | sounds good to me ;) |
| 01:10.56 | omoore | but first release will only do what i state above |
| 01:11.08 | omoore | enough value for a 0.1 release? |
| 01:11.22 | Dessimat0r | of course, as long as it isn't 1.0 ;) |
| 01:11.58 | omoore | right, just tinking aloud... 0.1 = above, 0.2 adds ability to specify other options,... |
| 01:12.10 | omoore | 0.3 add tab to show mounted shares... |
| 01:12.19 | omoore | 0.4 add ability to umount the mounted share |
| 01:12.38 | omoore | 0.5 add ability to specify a share (crude like 0.1 mounting) |
| 01:13.10 | omoore | 0.6 add ability to turn off a shared dir |
| 01:13.39 | omoore | in there somewhere.. if smbclient -L ability becomes available, turn host/share in 0.1... |
| 01:14.16 | omoore | to dropdowns that would be populated based on a query of what's out there (if you choose to since the query might take some time) |
| 01:14.35 | omoore | sound like a reasonable plan? |
| 01:15.01 | omoore | maybe add a way to store favorites or something at some point |
| 01:15.24 | omoore | but would concentrate on 0.1->0.4 functionality |
| 01:15.47 | omoore | anyone know if there is somethin like this already? |
| 01:15.58 | omoore | i havn't seen one on the Zaurus Software Index |
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| 01:54.35 | bASSchica_ | hi all |
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| 02:22.32 | omoore | hello there bASSchica.. just saw ya there :-D |
| 02:23.28 | angry | does anyone here know about porting java games/stuff to the Z? |
| 02:26.14 | angry | like making button events work and stuff |
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| 02:39.00 | omoore | angry... you have to use awt |
| 02:39.09 | omoore | angry and assume jdk 1.1.8 |
| 02:43.54 | Com[Plex] | whats awt? |
| 02:45.15 | dep | Abstract Windowing Toolkit...the java equivalent of QT |
| 02:45.35 | omoore | ie.. can't use Swing |
| 02:45.47 | dep | sigh |
| 02:46.06 | omoore | not that bad tho |
| 02:46.13 | omoore | especially when talking about PDA's |
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| 02:46.26 | omoore | AWT is much lighter than Swing anyway |
| 02:46.36 | dep | true...but i want my Collections, XML< etc |
| 02:46.39 | Com[Plex] | ahh |
| 02:46.44 | omoore | ahh... |
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| 02:47.18 | omoore | are those in 1.1.8? |
| 02:47.23 | omoore | or were those added with 1.2? |
| 02:47.46 | omoore | also note... |
| 02:47.53 | dep | it's been so long.... 1.2 |
| 02:47.56 | omoore | when you compile, if you are working from a 1.2+ jdk... |
| 02:48.06 | omoore | remember the -target 1.1 switch |
| 02:50.24 | dep | omoore...did you notice that when you download the Sun Personal Profile for Java it says it is based on J2SE 1.3 API's??? |
| 02:50.39 | omoore | havn't downloaded Personal Profile |
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| 02:51.09 | dep | it is supposed to be quite a bit faster than geode |
| 02:51.28 | omoore | cool, i have wanted to code against what comes with the Z |
| 02:51.38 | omoore | but good to note for my personal use :-) |
| 02:51.54 | dep | and the little 1.3 hint is interesting...may have to crack open the jar files to see what is really in it |
| 02:51.56 | TheMasterMind1 | dep: eh? what's this? |
| 02:51.56 | omoore | i guess i could publish both ways.. or does it replace? |
| 02:52.05 | TheMasterMind1 | dep: faster java on z? |
| 02:52.10 | TheMasterMind1 | where, how? |
| 02:52.13 | TheMasterMind1 | and does it work on oz yet |
| 02:52.19 | dep | it's early access...so i suspect it will be 'standard' soon |
| 02:52.27 | omoore | ahh |
| 02:52.50 | omoore | cool.. maybe it'll make it into an update from Sharp |
| 02:52.56 | dep | mm1: if you look at the article http://wireless.java.sun.com/personal/articles/ztutorial/ |
| 02:52.58 | treke|laptop | probably not |
| 02:53.10 | dep | it mentions that you can download a sun implementation of the vm for zaurus |
| 02:53.10 | treke|laptop | you usually dont put major changes like that into an update |
| 02:53.17 | omoore | treke |
| 02:53.40 | treke|laptop | maybe future zauruses though |
| 02:53.40 | omoore | oops :-).. anyway... so when would it appear? next OS release or what? |
| 02:53.50 | omoore | i see |
| 02:54.14 | TheMasterMind1 | will it work on OZ? |
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| 02:54.21 | omoore | or maybe on myzaurus.com? then could be widespread use? |
| 02:54.22 | TheMasterMind1 | someone test that please |
| 02:54.28 | dep | tmm: i don't see why not. |
| 02:54.34 | treke|laptop | TheMasterMind1: why dont you |
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| 02:54.50 | TheMasterMind1 | because i don't get java. last time i tried to test something java releated bad stuff happened |
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| 03:08.21 | pez2001 | im trying out the toolchain provided on the zauruszone.com page on a redhat system.... and i get many undefined references regarding qt/qpe/qte stuff... the linker links against the correct files and finds them but doesnt seem to work |
| 03:08.37 | pez2001 | im trying to compile the example for x86 |
| 03:08.45 | pez2001 | and it doesnt work..... |
| 03:09.02 | pez2001 | i installed everything correctly |
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| 03:51.08 | Dessimat0r | gn |
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| 03:55.31 | frogman | hey all. is it ok to use the sl5500 while it's plugged in to ac power? |
| 03:56.29 | ljp | yes |
| 03:57.10 | frogman | thanks |
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| 05:18.53 | Pendalar | breezy or any other c coder around? |
| 05:25.20 | Pendalar | n/m bbl |
| 05:26.06 | RedBeard | a question here. I've put OZ 3.0 on my SL5000, then I've tried to install several applications, they claim to be missing qpe-base(1.5.0) |
| 05:26.28 | RedBeard | do I just tell it to ignore and install anyway? |
| 05:26.37 | treke|home | yup |
| 05:26.52 | RedBeard | that's easy enough |
| 05:26.55 | omoore | anyone know where i can get an icon to include in an open source package? |
| 05:27.19 | treke|home | omoore: /usr/share/pixmaps is a good place to start |
| 05:27.21 | omoore | can i just rip an icon from any GPL software package? |
| 05:27.39 | treke|home | practically speaking? yes, technically, maybe |
| 05:27.45 | omoore | treke|home: but what if there is an icon for something like (forexample) JBuilder that is not an open source project |
| 05:27.55 | omoore | don't want to polute my GPL ap |
| 05:28.03 | treke|home | omoore: So dont use it |
| 05:28.07 | omoore | heh... |
| 05:28.24 | omoore | well.. how should i know what (in /usr/share/pixmaps) is GPL and what is not? |
| 05:28.34 | omoore | (JBuilder was just an example) |
| 05:28.47 | omoore | looking for a webstie |
| 05:28.52 | treke|home | common sense. :) Its usually rather obvious what came from where |
| 05:28.54 | omoore | that would offer GPL artwork |
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| 06:07.16 | omoore | well.. finished 0.1 of my app to provide a gui interface to samba commands on the z! :-D |
| 06:08.07 | omoore | 0.1 is the logic to do the mounting, now will add the gui front end on it (0.2) that will let you specify the host/share/username/password/mountpoint |
| 06:08.15 | omoore | will have that done tomorrow |
| 06:08.27 | omoore | anyone listed software on th eZaurus Software Index before? |
| 06:12.53 | treke|home | omoore: its pretty easy, just fill out a form |
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| 06:46.09 | omoore | treke|home: yeah.. saw... |
| 06:46.30 | omoore | treke|home: will post it once i get a savannah project started for it |
| 06:46.47 | omoore | treke|home: as i see no gui software for mounting samba shares on the Z |
| 06:47.12 | omoore | actually, it works on the desktop too, but the gui will be a little guy so realy intened for the Z |
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| 06:53.05 | BZFlag | omoore: that path? not user:password@host/share ? |
| 06:53.20 | BZFlag | or you just listing the things you can specify? |
| 06:54.04 | hardwire | night folks |
| 06:54.12 | omoore | BZFlag: sorry.. what are you saying? |
| 06:54.48 | omoore | BZFlag: there is another way to mount a samba share from the z other than using smbclient //host/share /mnt/point -o username=user,password=password ? |
| 06:55.20 | omoore | of course, there are other options you can specify (uid,gid,etc)... |
| 06:55.55 | omoore | but the gui wrapper for smbclient i'm writing will (currently) only allow host, share, uname, pasword, and mount point |
| 06:56.14 | omoore | tho, i might as well include a text box for other options |
| 07:04.45 | BZFlag | k. I just thought you were allowing a path of "host/share/username/password/mountpoint" but you were actually just listing the options. |
| 07:04.57 | omoore | oh :-) |
| 07:05.51 | BZFlag | as for a path, I think //user:password@host:port/share/ should work without the -o username=user,password=password stuff, but that's just me. ;-) |
| 07:06.32 | omoore | ahh |
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| 08:53.43 | mark | what would be a good place to store app data (soudns?) |
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| 10:27.05 | johaBBa | can someone point me to a RedHat 8.0 syncing faq? |
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| 10:43.08 | George- | hi |
| 10:53.35 | Twiun | yo |
| 10:53.47 | Twiun | ibot: howto |
| 10:53.48 | | i guess howto is at http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/ or see xcompile for cross compiler setup |
| 10:54.03 | Twiun | johaBBa: read the howtos |
| 11:15.17 | johaBBa | Twiun: i've been reading howto's all week. which howtos specifically? |
| 11:15.54 | johaBBa | only stuff at zauruzsone is for redhat7.3 |
| 11:17.22 | xml0 | is gcc 3.2 not compatible with qtopia-free-1.5.0? |
| 11:17.37 | xml0 | the symbol mangling is different as far as I can see |
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| 11:25.39 | Twiun | xml0: kergoth made a gcc3.2 toolchain - so things will compile under 3.2 - HOWEVER - it won't run on current builds of qtopia (on the Sharp rom) because of the name mangling... there's other problems too |
| 11:25.53 | Twiun | if you go via 3.2, you pretty much have to rebuild everything |
| 11:34.20 | xml0 | ok, thanks |
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| 12:35.33 | TheMasterMind1 | hi |
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| 13:13.30 | MarkMorga | please can someone help me out - ive installed opie, but cannot sync using sharp zaurus desktop syn software (win 2000) |
| 13:14.10 | TheMasterMind1 | what qtopia version |
| 13:14.12 | TheMasterMind1 | read the fa |
| 13:14.13 | TheMasterMind1 | q |
| 13:14.31 | MarkMorga | k |
| 13:14.32 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq.php?id=7 |
| 13:15.02 | MarkMorga | thanks |
| 13:17.25 | SillyZ | Ive noticed under the oz version of the rom, there dosent seem to be an email application |
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| 13:23.48 | TheMasterMind1 | SillyZ: there is, you can install it |
| 13:23.53 | TheMasterMind1 | are you looking to use pop or imap ? |
| 13:24.07 | XX|ViceCity | SillyZ: there is a opie imap client in the oz feed and i have pakaged together the sharp rom mial client for oz http://home.arcor.de/xavierxeon/apps/qtmail.html |
| 13:33.00 | SillyZ | kewl thanks XX |
| 13:34.39 | SillyZ | hehehe |
| 13:34.44 | XX|ViceCity | Piete: are you near-sighted ? |
| 13:34.51 | SillyZ | 60' plasma screen I hope |
| 13:34.56 | SillyZ | :) |
| 13:35.00 | Piete | XX|ViceCity: like all the males in my family |
| 13:35.00 | Piete | :) |
| 13:35.12 | Piete | SillyZ: yea, 60' plasma :D |
| 13:35.36 | XX|ViceCity | Piete: so am i, but i dont need glasses because my screen is about 20 cm away from my eyes |
| 13:37.29 | SillyZ | thats only 180'' of screen :) heheheh |
| 13:37.52 | Piete | XX|ViceCity: heh, that was my argument too |
| 13:38.13 | SillyZ | Ive got a 19" so kinda takes care of that problem heheheh |
| 13:38.22 | SillyZ | I do wear glasses tho |
| 13:38.44 | Piete | XX|ViceCity: I needed glasses for at least 2 years now,, but I finally got them today,, and all I can say is "WOW! I can see!" |
| 13:39.06 | ljp | glasses are expensive here in the US |
| 13:39.13 | Pend-Gone | I need some c help, I'm dev'ing on the Z and it doesn't like 'O_WRONLY' is that yet another cross-compile only thing? |
| 13:39.36 | ljp | no thats standard |
| 13:40.52 | ljp | it in unistd.h I believe |
| 13:40.57 | MarkMorga | guys - any of you use windows xp with your zaurus - my drivers wont work |
| 13:41.04 | ljp | I have had glasses since I was hmm.. |
| 13:41.18 | ljp | 8 |
| 13:43.58 | Pend-Gone | nope still doesn't like it |
| 13:44.14 | Pendalar | ljp all I'm trying to do is the led thing http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/led_howto.shtml |
| 13:44.30 | Pendalar | I copied it char for char and it can't handle O_WRONLY |
| 13:48.17 | Pendalar | wonder if it's in types.h |
| 13:48.55 | Pendalar | oh oh no it's got to be in the file control header |
| 13:49.09 | Pendalar | fctrl.h ? something not sure what it is in c |
| 13:49.32 | ljp | ya maybe its there.. |
| 13:49.34 | Pendalar | fcntl.h I was close |
| 13:49.35 | ljp | heh |
| 13:49.39 | Pendalar | for guessing =-) |
| 13:50.51 | ljp | or stdlib.h |
| 13:51.13 | ljp | maybe sys/types.h for good measure |
| 13:51.19 | Pendalar | I'll check, should be in the main file control |
| 13:52.15 | Pendalar | initializer is not constant |
| 13:52.26 | Pendalar | sorry =-P that's something you ought to get over |
| 13:53.43 | ljp | fcntl.h too much Qt dev makes one forget those |
| 13:54.08 | Pendalar | I'm not commited just let to leave portable code |
| 13:54.13 | Pendalar | s/let/yet |
| 13:54.28 | Pendalar | baby != concentration |
| 13:54.54 | ljp | hmm |
| 13:54.58 | Pendalar | it compiles but faults, lil better.. I love it when ya rip code and it doesn't even work |
| 13:55.03 | ljp | babe != concentration |
| 13:55.19 | Pendalar | you have small pigs? |
| 13:55.26 | ljp | hehe |
| 13:56.16 | Pendalar | wonder why it's seg faulting |
| 13:56.42 | Pendalar | wonder if I could change that int fd to either file fd or a pointer |
| 13:56.55 | Pendalar | I generally don't code quite like that |
| 13:58.39 | ljp | with segfaults? |
| 14:00.05 | Pendalar | with making descriptor calls normal int's |
| 14:00.18 | Pendalar | no pointer, no FILE type.. nada |
| 14:00.36 | Pendalar | unless I don't get exactly what the difference is when used like that |
| 14:00.49 | Pendalar | hell I just read books, not college classes |
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| 14:04.11 | Pendalar | still seg faulting.. fun |
| 14:09.35 | Pendalar | ljp can you help me out? |
| 14:09.47 | Pendalar | it's all of 3 lines =-/ |
| 14:11.16 | Pendalar | int main() {int fd=open("/dev/sharp_led",O_WRONLY); ioctl(fd,SHARP_LED_SETSTATUS,LED_COLLIE_0_ON);} |
| 14:14.22 | ljp | hmm |
| 14:15.01 | Pendalar | it's pretty simple unless int fd isn't the way to go.. but that's from their code other than I changed the led action |
| 14:15.14 | Pendalar | setting it to default wouldn't tell me if it worked ;-) |
| 14:16.12 | ljp | I havent played with the led yet, really |
| 14:17.13 | Pendalar | neither have I til now, but you understand open() and ioctl() well enough that it looks fine right? |
| 14:19.41 | ljp | yes, did you download the example source, too? |
| 14:20.06 | ljp | is arm-linux-gcc compling it? |
| 14:20.32 | Pendalar | their src is a gui version of that with widgets and crap |
| 14:20.47 | Pendalar | it's already compiled via cross compiling, I'm doing on the Z |
| 14:20.59 | Pendalar | which is proving most difficult |
| 14:24.35 | ljp | your doing native compiling on the z? |
| 14:24.44 | Pendalar | I think I'm going to lay down and make sense of it later, br33zy could tell me since that's what he's into |
| 14:24.44 | Pendalar | yes |
| 14:27.53 | Pendalar | bbl thanks for trying ljp |
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| 15:05.53 | SillyZ | what module do I need under linux to handle the usb tcpip connection ?? |
| 15:08.23 | XX|ViceCity | SillyZ: you mean on your pc ? |
| 15:10.25 | SillyZ | aye |
| 15:10.33 | SillyZ | Ive got the 5500 configured for usb/tcpip |
| 15:10.44 | SillyZ | its on the right network / subnet but cant communicate to it ... |
| 15:11.03 | SillyZ | what linux module do I need for my desktop so I can communicate via usb/tcpip |
| 15:13.20 | XX|ViceCity | the module is called usbdnet and comes as a standard with kernel 2.4.19 . for older kernels you have to compile it for yourself |
| 15:20.08 | SillyZ | k |
| 15:39.24 | Twiun | anyone know how I can concatenate every line in a file? |
| 15:41.13 | ibz | Twiun: ? |
| 15:41.20 | ibz | into 1 big line? |
| 15:41.23 | Twiun | yup |
| 15:41.39 | ibz | use vim |
| 15:41.52 | ibz | vim file |
| 15:42.03 | ibz | VG |
| 15:42.05 | ibz | J |
| 15:42.15 | ibz | that is highlight all lines... |
| 15:42.22 | ibz | shift J to joing them |
| 15:42.48 | Twiun | cool ;-) |
| 15:43.19 | Twiun | finally found unicode version of the quran... but the formatting just £$%"£ |
| 15:43.27 | Twiun | found a unicode even |
| 15:43.44 | ibz | Twiun: interesting.... |
| 15:44.04 | Twiun | so I'm massaging it - so I can import it into a db |
| 15:44.05 | ibz | where from? palm format? |
| 15:44.22 | Twiun | nope, ascii in ISO-8859-6 |
| 15:44.45 | Twiun | took me 3 hours to track it down |
| 15:45.40 | ibz | translation/transliteration? |
| 15:46.11 | Twiun | here's the first 5 lines: http://adorphuye.com/alq.html |
| 15:46.23 | Twiun | in arabic - hence unicode ;-) |
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| 15:47.50 | SillyZ | q: whats the root password on an oz image ? |
| 15:48.01 | ibz | yeah, but am yet to see a tranlation/transliteration for the Z... |
| 15:48.02 | angry | hi all |
| 15:48.14 | ibz | SillyZ: blank |
| 15:48.23 | SillyZ | "blank" or a null password ? |
| 15:48.33 | ibz | SillyZ: just hit enter ;) |
| 15:48.51 | SillyZ | ssh wont allow it |
| 15:48.53 | Twiun | ibz: I've found 3 english transliterations (.txt files) - I'm hoping to get all that together at some point |
| 15:49.05 | Twiun | ibz: biggest hurdle is a good font for the z |
| 15:49.06 | SillyZ | root@zaurus's password: |
| 15:49.06 | SillyZ | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 15:49.19 | Twiun | SillyZ: try rootme |
| 15:49.44 | SillyZ | nope |
| 15:49.51 | Twiun | if that doesn't work, just use the terminal to set your own pwd |
| 15:49.56 | SillyZ | k |
| 15:50.07 | SillyZ | kinda odd tho dont ya think ? |
| 15:50.19 | ibz | SillyZ: you sure it's the zaurus you ssh'ing to? |
| 15:51.02 | SillyZ | yes |
| 15:52.12 | SillyZ | doh |
| 15:52.13 | SillyZ | nm |
| 15:52.21 | xml0 | go on... tell us |
| 15:52.30 | ibz | SillyZ: silly silly. |
| 15:52.34 | ibz | heh |
| 15:52.38 | SillyZ | hmmm seems my ssh directed at 192.168.0.200 is ending up on 192.168.0.253 |
| 15:52.42 | SillyZ | ( my server ) |
| 15:52.45 | SillyZ | very intresting |
| 15:53.07 | ibz | ssh 192.168.0.200 |
| 15:53.23 | SillyZ | aye tried that, still connets to the server, not the Z |
| 15:53.36 | SillyZ | btw anyone know where in the hell qtopia-destop for linux installs to ? |
| 15:53.51 | SillyZ | nm |
| 15:56.07 | Twiun | SillyZ: any reason you're using those ips instead of the 129.1/129.201 combo? |
| 15:56.26 | ibz | Twiun: that's some good work you are doing there, i sure as hell (forgive the pun) interested.. |
| 15:58.52 | Twiun | ibz: thought you might be ;-) to give you an idea, this is what I'm going to be trying to do for the z: http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moiz/quran/browse.cgi?sura=1&aya=1&ya=1&sh=1&ph=1&ar=1 |
| 15:59.05 | ibz|away | Twiun: back in mo... |
| 16:00.00 | SillyZ | I can go back to the default and see if it works |
| 16:01.14 | chouimat|coffee | morning |
| 16:01.34 | SillyZ | intresting the Z wont stop the usbd0 device |
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| 16:08.06 | chouimat|coffee | shit! 2.5.47 screwed my cf card |
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| 16:08.25 | George- | Hi |
| 16:08.56 | chouimat|coffee | hi George-. got my dreamcast yesterday. now working on my sh4 port of oz |
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| 16:09.22 | ljp_work | opie on dreamcast? |
| 16:09.33 | chouimat|coffee | ljp_work: probably yes |
| 16:09.41 | ljp_work | interesting |
| 16:09.52 | chouimat|coffee | ljp_work: a cheap internet appliance :) |
| 16:09.57 | George- | chouimat|coffee: Got my Sega Genesis next to me |
| 16:10.05 | George- | chouimat|coffee: Trying to hook a NTSC version up to a PAL tv |
| 16:10.07 | George- | chouimat|coffee: ;) |
| 16:10.23 | chouimat|coffee | George-: they sell conversion box |
| 16:10.42 | chouimat|coffee | ljp_work: I'm search for the keyboard/mouse adapter and the vga box now |
| 16:11.13 | MarkMorga | anyone know where i can get the decoder so my opie mediaplayer can handle mp3 files ? |
| 16:11.40 | angry | does anyone here own a wcf12 |
| 16:11.48 | George- | chouimat|coffee: I've just bought a phono NTSC -> PAL converter |
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| 16:12.00 | George- | chouimat|coffee: the tricky bit is getting the damn coaxial to work with it :) |
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| 16:12.44 | mark | George-: ping |
| 16:12.50 | chouimat|coffee | George-: I have planty of it here |
| 16:13.11 | George- | mark: pong |
| 16:13.26 | chouimat|coffee | George-: what kind of plug you need? F-connector, BNC ... |
| 16:13.40 | George- | chouimat|coffee: I need to h4x0r my RF unit |
| 16:14.17 | chouimat|coffee | George-: the connector look like a screw? |
| 16:15.07 | George- | chouimat|coffee: The connector looks like a coax :) |
| 16:15.10 | chouimat|coffee | George-: or send me a picture of the adapter, and I will check if I have the good cable here |
| 16:15.37 | chouimat|coffee | George-: there is about 8 type of connector for coax cable |
| 16:15.49 | chouimat|coffee | in north america |
| 16:16.04 | George- | chouimat|coffee: It doesn't matter |
| 16:16.56 | chouimat|coffee | if anyone interested i got palm datebook 5 working on the z |
| 16:18.10 | George- | chouimat|coffee: how |
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| 16:18.23 | chouimat|coffee | George-: qpose :-P |
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| 16:27.03 | chouimat|coffee | George-: my computer lab: 5 PC, 2 ARM, 2 68K, 1SH4 and 1 6809 |
| 16:29.28 | ibz|away | hah, miss world contest cancelled...to be held in london! |
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| 16:45.13 | SillyZ | where does one find qpe-base ??? |
| 16:45.41 | George- | SillyZ: Are you using OpenZaurus? |
| 16:45.47 | George- | Wow |
| 16:46.15 | George- | whoops |
| 16:46.18 | SillyZ | aye |
| 16:46.27 | George- | SillyZ: Just force dependancies |
| 16:46.31 | SillyZ | k |
| 16:46.31 | George- | SillyZ: It's not needed :) |
| 16:46.45 | chouimat|coffee | George-: huh? |
| 16:47.04 | SillyZ | no go |
| 16:47.14 | Twiun | ibz: 5884 verses sound about right? |
| 16:47.19 | SillyZ | tryin to get qtmail installed and its dep'd on qpe-base |
| 16:47.38 | George- | SillyZ: ? |
| 16:47.47 | chouimat|coffee | SillyZ: try -force-depend |
| 16:48.39 | SillyZ | did |
| 16:49.08 | ibz | Twiun: 5884 sounds too large to me... |
| 16:49.22 | SillyZ | wont execute after a force-deps |
| 16:49.39 | ibz | Twiun: there are 114 verses in ther Qur'aan. |
| 16:49.56 | Twiun | ibz: Ahhh... different names... |
| 16:50.26 | Twiun | ibz: what are the smaller parts called? |
| 16:50.28 | ibz | different names? |
| 16:51.04 | Twiun | ibz: say I have 1:2, what would the 2 be named? |
| 16:51.40 | SillyZ | and the other email app thats available is only IMAP not POP |
| 16:51.56 | ibz | Twiun: 1st verse, 2nd erm...what you call it... |
| 16:52.17 | Twiun | ibz: lol... I was calling them 1's chapter, 2nd verse |
| 16:52.22 | Twiun | 1st even |
| 16:52.52 | Twiun | so 114 chapters, and a total of 5884 of those things we haven't named ;-) |
| 16:53.08 | ibz | yeah. |
| 16:53.20 | Twiun | but you're right... one-liners can't really be verses... |
| 16:53.23 | ibz | Each chapter is called a Surah |
| 16:53.29 | Twiun | hrmm, need another name for those single lines |
| 16:53.38 | ibz | but there not always one-liners... |
| 16:54.28 | Twiun | true... how about surah:verse? |
| 16:55.15 | ibz | yeah...i'd prolly go with that. |
| 16:55.33 | Twiun | cool... now to clean up and import the transliterations |
| 16:56.24 | ibz | hold on...why not just say chapter 20:5? |
| 16:56.38 | ibz | or surah 20:5, why verse? |
| 16:57.42 | Twiun | because I've got three columns - (arabic,surah,verse) |
| 16:58.03 | Twiun | eventually, I'll add an id one and start doing some proper referential db stuff |
| 16:58.17 | ibz | ahh i see. |
| 16:58.26 | Twiun | so we'll be able to crossref the arabic with the transliterations |
| 16:58.47 | ibz | sounds good. |
| 16:59.31 | ibz | Twiun: can i help at all? |
| 16:59.39 | chouimat|out | bbl |
| 16:59.44 | jbardin | anyone know of a place to get a cheap gps unit? |
| 17:00.18 | Twiun | ibz: maybe - I haven't looked at the state of the other textfiles yet |
| 17:00.39 | Twiun | just going to piece together a small jsp table viewer first |
| 17:01.57 | ibz | ok |
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| 17:10.52 | jbardin | is there even a gps device for the z? |
| 17:13.24 | jbardin | ibot gps |
| 17:13.25 | | methinks gps is http://russnelson.com/ipaq/gps/ or qpegps.sf.net or gpsqpe.sf.net |
| 17:13.57 | ibz | jbardin: http://www.pretec.com/faq/GPS_FAQ.htm#Zaurus? |
| 17:16.57 | jbardin | damn the hardware is still expesive |
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| 17:20.17 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
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| 17:53.34 | SillyZ | ok quick q here..... |
| 17:54.03 | SillyZ | my lan is on 192.168.0.x and the zaurus is on 192.168.1.x .... need to get dns to the .1.x network... any ideas?? |
| 17:55.31 | ibz | SillyZ: put the hosts in the /etc/hosts file on the zaurus |
| 17:55.35 | xml0 | how is the z on the lan? |
| 17:55.40 | xml0 | usb or what? |
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| 17:55.47 | SillyZ | usb/tcpip |
| 17:56.07 | xml0 | and where is the dns server? on the same pc? |
| 17:56.19 | SillyZ | dns server is 192.168.0.253 |
| 17:56.36 | ibz | SillyZ: put that in the /etc/resolv.conf on the X |
| 17:56.37 | xml0 | is that the pc the z is connected to or not? |
| 17:56.41 | ibz | s/X/Z/ |
| 17:56.59 | SillyZ | no 192.168.0.253 is another box, my box is .0.254 |
| 17:57.24 | xml0 | presumably you have a dhcp server on 253? |
| 17:57.36 | SillyZ | naa Im just running static no dhcp |
| 17:57.55 | xml0 | then you're going to need to add a default route on the z |
| 17:58.01 | xml0 | be easier if you use dhcpd |
| 17:58.11 | ljp_work | someone should write an irc client that does automatic language translations |
| 17:58.17 | xml0 | you could set the default route and the dns server at the same time |
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| 17:58.43 | SillyZ | so how can I put 192.168.0.253 in resolv.conf when the Z is on a .1.x network |
| 17:59.19 | xml0 | previously, do a route add -net 192.168.1.0/24 gw 192.168.0.253 |
| 17:59.49 | xml0 | or route add default dev usb0 or whatever the interface is called |
| 18:00.05 | xml0 | then make sure the pc has ip_forwarding set on |
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| 18:00.52 | ibz | SillyZ: what rom? |
| 18:01.03 | SillyZ | oz3.0 |
| 18:01.08 | taryag | i lost my jeode package when i moved to oz can anyone help? |
| 18:02.37 | SillyZ | grrr still no dns |
| 18:02.55 | ibz | taryag: you can moutn the sharp rom loopback'ed then get it that way... |
| 18:03.23 | SillyZ | ibz where would I set ip_forwarding ?? |
| 18:04.22 | ibz | SillyZ: cho 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 18:04.31 | ibz | s/cho/echo/ |
| 18:04.53 | ibz | SillyZ: have you read the howto? |
| 18:05.08 | SillyZ | aye |
| 18:05.16 | SillyZ | just having a tuff time of it is all |
| 18:05.22 | ibz | SillyZ: distro? |
| 18:05.27 | SillyZ | mandrake |
| 18:05.28 | taryag | ibz: i have no linux machine |
| 18:05.29 | SillyZ | 9.0 |
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| 18:06.32 | ibz | SillyZ: i thought 9.0 had support for usb zaurus... |
| 18:07.23 | ibz | taryag: then i can't help am afraid. if you've just moved over, then just reflash the sharp rom. |
| 18:07.50 | ibz | taryag: 5500 right? |
| 18:08.20 | ibz | nm, you are after jeode |
| 18:09.17 | RUok | oz doesnt have jeode, I thought. |
| 18:09.29 | RUok | They mentioned something about kaffee, you might try that |
| 18:11.46 | ibz | RUok: there's a jeode creator |
| 18:12.21 | RUok | ah |
| 18:13.56 | SillyZ | they do |
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| 18:14.01 | George- | grmbl |
| 18:14.13 | SillyZ | although if I put the Z on the same network as my lan, I loose all dns from my box |
| 18:14.26 | taryag | yeah i got the jeode creator, but i have no way of flashing back to sharp rom to get it |
| 18:14.35 | ibz | taryag: why? |
| 18:14.38 | SillyZ | in theory, I should be able to put both the eth0 and the usb0 on the same network |
| 18:15.13 | taryag | ibz: i have no cf card for the next week, also i havent been able to flash back to the sharp rom since i installed oz, gives me an infinite loop |
| 18:15.47 | ibz | taryag: use the windows gui flasher. may help |
| 18:15.48 | taryag | ibz: not a problem as i dont really wanna switch back, but no java sucks |
| 18:15.56 | taryag | ibz: tried that, doesnt work |
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| 18:16.42 | ibz | taryag: hmmn, but why doesn't it work? |
| 18:17.20 | taryag | ibz: i dont know, there was another guy i was talking to with a zaurus, had the same problem, so its not just me |
| 18:17.54 | ibz | taryag: ah yes. |
| 18:18.26 | ibz | taryag: the gui thingy checks the signature of the rom already installed or something |
| 18:18.43 | taryag | ibz: i think so, i think you need a sharp rom installed |
| 18:18.58 | ibz | taryag: you need to flash ospack, or get the jeode ipk. |
| 18:19.22 | taryag | ibz: but there is nowhere to get the ipk from, i have looked. Thats why i decided to ask in here |
| 18:19.31 | ibz | taryag: legal issues |
| 18:19.49 | taryag | ibz: yeah, i know |
| 18:20.48 | ibz | i have the sharp rom loop'ed on my PC, but i haven't tried to apply the jeode creator to create an ipk. |
| 18:21.36 | George- | is QPE 1.4 binary compatible with the QPE on the SL5x00[d]? |
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| 18:23.02 | George- | msmax: logged in as ROOT?!?!?! |
| 18:23.59 | msmax | like this |
| 18:55.52 | George- | <Guest87213> [back] [from : ] [duration : 20wks 6days 5hrs 22mins 13secs] |
| 18:55.57 | George- | rofl |
| 18:55.57 | George- | 20 weeks :) |
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| 19:16.09 | Bongo2k | is there a divx codec avaliable for qtopia player? |
| 19:16.32 | TheMasterMind1 | no afaik |
| 19:16.42 | Bongo2k | :( |
| 19:17.14 | Bongo2k | can u run opie player in qtopia? |
| 19:19.12 | ljp_work | yes |
| 19:20.18 | George- | tkcVideo |
| 19:20.27 | George- | plays divx |
| 19:20.56 | taryag | is it possible to run mount a romburst on the zaurus itself? |
| 19:20.56 | TheMasterMind1 | use op2 or mplaye |
| 19:20.57 | TheMasterMind1 | are |
| 19:21.35 | Cloudchaser_ | op2 plays divx? |
| 19:21.51 | TheMasterMind1 | doesn't it? |
| 19:22.05 | Cloudchaser_ | dunno..thats why i was asking |
| 19:22.18 | George- | yeh, op2 plays divx |
| 19:22.20 | George- | lol |
| 19:22.46 | treke|home | yes it does |
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| 19:33.25 | Com[Plex] | whats new? |
| 19:33.41 | TheMasterMind1 | ipkg |
| 19:33.50 | Com[Plex] | do tell? |
| 19:34.11 | TheMasterMind1 | http://andyq.myby.co.uk/feed has new ipkg and aqpkg with a bunch of bugfixes |
| 19:35.18 | George- | cool |
| 19:35.28 | George- | what improvements are there in the new ipkg? |
| 19:36.37 | TheMasterMind1 | pkg upgrade now upgrades to multiple devices properly. you don't need to specify dest when doing info, status, upgrade, install etc. ipkg knows if you have stuff installed in another place and doesn't install a new copy somewhere else. plus i'm making it so it gives better output |
| 19:41.32 | Bongo2k | George-:tkc costs money |
| 19:41.47 | Bongo2k | opie player and qtopia player dont |
| 19:42.21 | Bongo2k | yey |
| 19:42.27 | Bongo2k | soon ill have the doom3 demo |
| 19:43.07 | ljp_work | but you can always paypal to op2 devs |
| 19:44.08 | Bongo2k | not without a credit card i cant |
| 19:44.09 | Bongo2k | :p |
| 19:44.53 | ljp_work | sure you can.... check card |
| 19:45.03 | Bongo2k | cant with solo/switch |
| 19:45.30 | ljp_work | solo/switch?? |
| 19:45.36 | Bongo2k | carsd |
| 19:45.39 | Bongo2k | cards |
| 19:45.47 | Bongo2k | thats the only card i have |
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| 19:59.13 | George- | x crashed ;( |
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| 20:02.32 | Nighthawk98TJ | I have a couple quesions about OpenZ.... |
| 20:02.42 | Nighthawk98TJ | First, can I still do a wireless sync? |
| 20:03.26 | George- | yes |
| 20:03.29 | George- | i think |
| 20:03.31 | Nighthawk98TJ | ok, cool |
| 20:04.01 | Nighthawk98TJ | So what's the best way to transfer files and backup my data on OZ? Can I still use Qtopia Desktop in Linux? |
| 20:04.31 | Twiun | yup... and scp, and.. .and... |
| 20:04.39 | Nighthawk98TJ | what's SCP? |
| 20:04.43 | Nighthawk98TJ | and what about FTP? |
| 20:04.50 | Twiun | ftp, just like the sharap rom |
| 20:04.52 | George- | secure copy |
| 20:04.56 | Twiun | scp is secure filecopy - it uses ssh |
| 20:04.59 | George- | it uses ssh |
| 20:05.06 | Nighthawk98TJ | oh, I see |
| 20:05.28 | Nighthawk98TJ | I wish I could get gFTP to talk to the Z with the sharp rom... as it is, I have to do it via command line with ftp |
| 20:05.29 | Twiun | George-: stop copying me ;-) |
| 20:05.54 | Twiun | waht's wrong with gFTP? |
| 20:06.08 | Nighthawk98TJ | it doesnt want to connect to the FTP server on the Z.... |
| 20:06.13 | Nighthawk98TJ | lemme pull it up and see what's wrong again |
| 20:06.29 | Cloudchaser_ | use ssh and use gftp to ssh in |
| 20:06.38 | Cloudchaser_ | what sharp rom? |
| 20:06.57 | Nighthawk98TJ | 2.37 i believe... it's not tha ltest because that one doesnt support wireless sync |
| 20:07.04 | Cloudchaser_ | ah |
| 20:07.30 | Cloudchaser_ | well that's one plus |
| 20:08.21 | Twiun | ibz: ping |
| 20:08.49 | Nighthawk98TJ | see, i put in the ip in the ip field in gFTP and for the port i put 4242, user set to root, i click connect and it asks for a password, now there isn't one so i click connect and it doesnt do anything.... |
| 20:09.23 | Twiun | tried putting a space for the pwd? |
| 20:09.34 | Nighthawk98TJ | trying |
| 20:09.48 | Nighthawk98TJ | no... it connects, but says there's a syntax error |
| 20:10.04 | Twiun | what method does gFTP use to get directory listings? |
| 20:10.17 | Nighthawk98TJ | LIST -aL is the error... could it be there? |
| 20:10.24 | Cloudchaser_ | i think that is the problem |
| 20:10.27 | Twiun | qtopia ftp isn't a real ftp server, so some commands aren't implemented |
| 20:10.35 | Cloudchaser_ | can't do -L i don't think |
| 20:10.35 | Nighthawk98TJ | ahh |
| 20:11.09 | Cloudchaser_ | play with that a bit and you should be able to get that going |
| 20:11.11 | Nighthawk98TJ | right... i wonder if i can tell it not to do that |
| 20:11.18 | Twiun | should be able to |
| 20:13.33 | Nighthawk98TJ | got rid of the -L... it was an option, but the -a wont go away... |
| 20:14.12 | Twiun | hmm, can you get it to use ls instead of LIST? |
| 20:14.24 | Nighthawk98TJ | i dont see anything to do that... |
| 20:15.45 | Cloudchaser_ | well could get the ssh ipkg from zsi and use gftp to ssh in graphically |
| 20:15.53 | Cloudchaser_ | thats how i do it |
| 20:16.09 | Nighthawk98TJ | ok, so you run an SSH daemon on the Z? |
| 20:16.32 | Cloudchaser_ | there's an ipkg for it on killefiz...open ssh i think it is |
| 20:16.38 | Cloudchaser_ | does ssh 2 |
| 20:16.42 | Nighthawk98TJ | k |
| 20:17.06 | Nighthawk98TJ | i have openssh on there already :) |
| 20:17.22 | Nighthawk98TJ | do i need a diff pkg for the server? |
| 20:18.12 | Cloudchaser_ | did you put the ssh server on your z? |
| 20:18.36 | Nighthawk98TJ | i think all that is on there for openssh is the tools to ssh into things from the Z... are there 2 diff packages? |
| 20:18.46 | Cloudchaser_ | no |
| 20:18.50 | Cloudchaser_ | just the one |
| 20:18.54 | Cloudchaser_ | client/server etc |
| 20:18.55 | Nighthawk98TJ | ok, it's on there |
| 20:19.01 | Nighthawk98TJ | how do i start the server? |
| 20:19.11 | Cloudchaser_ | it should be already going, |
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| 20:19.17 | Nighthawk98TJ | ok |
| 20:19.21 | Cloudchaser_ | try to ssh in from command line first on linux box |
| 20:19.26 | Nighthawk98TJ | k |
| 20:19.27 | Cloudchaser_ | cause you have to answer "yes" |
| 20:19.33 | Cloudchaser_ | the gui won't let you do that |
| 20:19.42 | Cloudchaser_ | so.. ssh root@yourip |
| 20:19.47 | Nighthawk98TJ | connection refused on port 22 |
| 20:20.09 | Twiun | did you start sshd? |
| 20:20.22 | Nighthawk98TJ | on the Z? no, i didnt know i needed to |
| 20:20.31 | Cloudchaser_ | i guess i was assuming when you installed ssh you set it all up |
| 20:20.35 | Cloudchaser_ | i apologize |
| 20:20.40 | Nighthawk98TJ | k :) |
| 20:20.47 | Nighthawk98TJ | service sshd start ? |
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| 20:20.58 | Twiun | lol, not on the Z ;-) |
| 20:21.11 | Cloudchaser_ | there's instructions with the ipkg |
| 20:21.20 | Nighthawk98TJ | looking... |
| 20:21.25 | matsavhalev | could someone help me to compile and run romburst on the sharp rom? i am a newbie to linux running mdk 9 |
| 20:21.26 | TheMasterMind1 | Nighthawk98TJ: you're not on OZ? |
| 20:21.44 | Nighthawk98TJ | TheMasterMind1: not at the moment... i need to pickup a CF card |
| 20:21.46 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: lets flog him ;-) |
| 20:21.51 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 20:22.00 | TheMasterMind1 | well, scp won't work on the sharp rom unles you install it |
| 20:22.03 | TheMasterMind1 | its default on OZ |
| 20:22.07 | TheMasterMind1 | i thought you were on oz already |
| 20:22.17 | Nighthawk98TJ | does OZ have ssh and ftp already running? |
| 20:22.25 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 20:22.35 | Cloudchaser_ | can use ssh though, with gftp |
| 20:22.43 | Nighthawk98TJ | is the OZ FTP server a better ftp server with better command support? |
| 20:23.00 | Cloudchaser_ | i havne't used it |
| 20:23.06 | Nighthawk98TJ | k |
| 20:23.07 | Cloudchaser_ | just ssh works fine |
| 20:23.12 | Nighthawk98TJ | k |
| 20:23.23 | Cloudchaser_ | and for windows can use putty and winscp |
| 20:23.33 | Nighthawk98TJ | yup |
| 20:23.37 | Cloudchaser_ | not quite sure what TheMasterMind1 means when he said scp won't work |
| 20:23.39 | Nighthawk98TJ | i dont use windows tho :) |
| 20:23.44 | Cloudchaser_ | ok |
| 20:24.27 | Cloudchaser_ | so when you installed the ssh, did you set up your passwords and all that? |
| 20:24.40 | ibz | Twiun: pong |
| 20:24.49 | Nighthawk98TJ | no, im looking at the readme and i think i just installed the client install |
| 20:24.52 | Cloudchaser_ | and did you use the newer one? some people seem to get an old ssh version from somewhere |
| 20:25.15 | Nighthawk98TJ | 3.2.3p1 |
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| 20:25.21 | Cloudchaser_ | ok that will work |
| 20:25.24 | ibz | matsavhalev: gcc -o romburst romburst.c |
| 20:25.36 | Cloudchaser_ | kergoth said its not the newest, but i was using it with no issues |
| 20:25.41 | Twiun | ibz: finally got the charsets working properly: http://adorphuye.com/srv/quran.jsp |
| 20:25.42 | Nighthawk98TJ | k |
| 20:25.58 | George- | heh, my brother is happy |
| 20:26.00 | ibz | Twiun: lemme have a look... |
| 20:26.05 | George- | I just gave him my laptop |
| 20:26.07 | matsavhalev | ibz: thx |
| 20:26.21 | Cloudchaser_ | awww what a nice brother you are |
| 20:26.30 | Nighthawk98TJ | so OZ includes SSH and SSHD? |
| 20:26.36 | Twiun | yup |
| 20:26.44 | ibz | Twiun: nice ;) |
| 20:26.49 | Nighthawk98TJ | and the daemon is already setup to go? |
| 20:27.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 20:27.04 | Twiun | ibz: I haven't learnt arabic yet, so no proofreading for now ;-) |
| 20:27.08 | Nighthawk98TJ | hmm, nice |
| 20:27.32 | matsavhalev | have you got arabic working on the z? |
| 20:27.34 | ibz | Twiun: but the arabic should probably be on the right side... |
| 20:27.42 | ibz | Twiun: right-to-left ;) |
| 20:27.44 | Twiun | ibz: this is just a db dump so far ;-) |
| 20:27.54 | Twiun | matsavhalev: that'll be the next step |
| 20:28.15 | matsavhalev | Twiun: wow, i have been waiting for right to left for ages :-) |
| 20:28.41 | Twiun | matsavhalev: I was thinking of only the font for now - with a hack to make it right-aligned |
| 20:28.55 | Twiun | matsavhalev: I'm just starting this :-) |
| 20:29.07 | Twiun | one small step at a time |
| 20:29.19 | TheMasterMind1 | err |
| 20:29.20 | ibz | one giant step for zaurus... |
| 20:29.23 | matsavhalev | Twiun: fair enough :-) |
| 20:29.40 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf. Nighthawk98TJ: sorry about that scp won't work bit. i'm utterly confused. was actually talking to someone else about scp problems |
| 20:29.42 | Twiun | ibz: there you go... align=right ;-) |
| 20:30.03 | Nighthawk98TJ | TheMasterMind1: no problem :) |
| 20:31.38 | Twiun | ibz: these are the transliterations I've nabbed from the web: khalifa/ msa/ pickthall/ shakir/ sherali/ yousufali/ |
| 20:38.10 | ibz | Twiun: www.quran.net |
| 20:39.07 | Nighthawk98TJ | A question about backing up my data before flashing OZ: if I use Qtopia Desktop in Linux to backup Data and Apps, then once it's flashed, can I jsut restore my data using Qtopia Desktop in Linux and it will all be back in the address book, calendar, etc.? |
| 20:39.28 | TheMasterMind1 | *shrug* |
| 20:39.36 | TheMasterMind1 | you need qtopia desktop >= 1.6 for oz |
| 20:39.47 | chouimat | hi |
| 20:39.59 | ibz | Nighthawk98TJ: not sure. just get the datebook.xml, addressbook.xml |
| 20:41.17 | Nighthawk98TJ | I have 1.6.0 :) |
| 20:41.38 | ibz | Nighthawk98TJ: the oz website says something along those lines...but I don't use qtopia desktop so can't say |
| 20:41.45 | Nighthawk98TJ | so that will restore my backed up addresses, calendar, etc to OZ? |
| 20:41.52 | Nighthawk98TJ | k |
| 20:42.10 | Nighthawk98TJ | thanks all! gotta run for a while |
| 20:42.55 | Twiun | ibz: any on there that I won't have to take the html apart to use? the ones I have atm are all self-contained .txt docs |
| 20:44.42 | ibz | Twiun: hehe, dunno...just a reference for you |
| 20:44.59 | Twiun | ibz: thanks, bookmarked it |
| 20:46.46 | Twiun | ok... next one.. what's the regexp for the first : on a line? |
| 20:47.12 | ibz | ^: |
| 20:48.34 | Twiun | ah, yes... it may not be the first char on the line though... like '123:112 blah:' |
| 20:49.01 | ibz | Twiun: using vim? sed? |
| 20:49.27 | Twiun | ibz: vim atm, but either will do |
| 20:49.53 | ibz | so is it "digits:digits blah" |
| 20:50.23 | ibz | s/\d+:\d+\s\w+/REPLACE/ |
| 20:50.26 | Twiun | yeah, I'm converting it to csv |
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| 20:51.33 | matsavhalev | ibz: i got romburst and opened the rom, now i mounted it and it seems a bit empty, i cant navigate through it properly, any ideas? |
| 20:52.26 | ibz | matsavhalev: mount -t cramfs -o loop ./ROMDISK.BIN /path/to/mountpount |
| 20:52.28 | ibz | ? |
| 20:54.14 | Twiun | ibz: ok, that didn't work, but s/\d*:\d*/,/ does with sesd |
| 20:54.21 | Twiun | s/sesd/sed/ |
| 20:55.38 | ibz | Twiun: s/\(\d*\):\(\d*\)/\1,\2/ |
| 20:55.53 | ibz | Twiun: try that...for the replace. |
| 20:55.54 | matsavhalev | ibz: got that but it wont let me navigate into /opt/Qtopia |
| 20:56.26 | ibz | matsavhalev: cd /path/to/mount/opt/QtPalmtop |
| 20:56.58 | matsavhalev | ibz: done that. No such file or directory. But the rom mounted fine |
| 20:57.10 | Twiun | ibz: that worked too... I really should spend some more time with a regex book |
| 20:57.15 | matsavhalev | ibz: could it be something to do with cramfs? |
| 20:57.18 | br33zy | ibot your fat |
| 20:57.19 | | br33zy: i haven't a clue |
| 20:57.23 | ibz | matsavhalev: sorry |
| 20:57.36 | ibz | matsavhalev: cd /path/to/mount/home/QtPalmtop |
| 20:57.55 | matsavhalev | ibz: same error |
| 20:58.04 | ibz | huh? |
| 20:58.09 | matsavhalev | ibz: i know |
| 20:58.36 | matsavhalev | ibz: only etc directory in home on the rom |
| 20:59.09 | ibz | matsavhalev: cd /path/to/mount/roo/home/QtPalmtop |
| 20:59.13 | ibz | root |
| 20:59.21 | ibz | that SHOULD work |
| 20:59.25 | ibz | heh |
| 21:00.12 | matsavhalev | ibz: nope only directories in root are bin and etc. Its like half the rom is missing.... |
| 21:00.27 | ibz | hmmn. |
| 21:00.35 | Twiun | looked for hidden tar files? |
| 21:00.42 | ibz | ah yes |
| 21:00.43 | matsavhalev | ibz: could it be a cramfs problem? |
| 21:00.50 | ibz | Twiun: hit on the head |
| 21:01.15 | ibz | you have to untar home, dev, and var tarballs |
| 21:01.21 | matsavhalev | ah |
| 21:01.55 | matsavhalev | not me i guess;-( |
| 21:02.10 | ibz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.19 | ibz | untar those |
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| 21:15.46 | chouimat|bored | http://www.palmstation.com/view_article.py?article=5362 |
| 21:17.49 | Twiun | hmmm |
| 21:18.08 | Twiun | methinks I'll wait a good long while before buying a new pda ;-) |
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| 21:24.07 | chouimat|bored | Twiun: ? |
| 21:24.41 | Twiun | chouimat|bored: the 5600 won't be for me... cash strapped ;-) |
| 21:25.14 | ibz | Twiun: ditto |
| 21:26.05 | chouimat|bored | Twiun: same here. will probably buy something with another cpu arch in it like mips or powerpc |
| 21:26.08 | ibz | ibot 5700 |
| 21:26.08 | | no idea, ibz |
| 21:26.12 | ibz | heh |
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| 21:27.54 | chouimat|bored | hi benmeyer |
| 21:28.02 | treke|home | speak of the devil |
| 21:28.02 | benmeyer | What is the command to tell how much space you are allowed on a server? |
| 21:28.20 | chouimat|bored | benmeyer: http://www.palmstation.com/view_article.py?article=5362 |
| 21:28.22 | Twiun | quota? |
| 21:28.36 | chouimat|bored | phone the sysadmin? |
| 21:29.01 | treke|home | dd if=/dev/null > test; du -sk |
| 21:29.13 | kryhme | goooo buckeyes |
| 21:29.15 | kryhme | w00t |
| 21:29.16 | benmeyer | hmmm |
| 21:29.27 | benmeyer | quota might be an interesting thing to have on the z |
| 21:29.39 | benmeyer | that way they can't keep installing things until it is filled |
| 21:29.43 | benmeyer | and have to hard reset |
| 21:30.04 | treke|home | benmeyer: a better idea is to update the kernel so filling it doesnt require a hard reset :) |
| 21:30.43 | benmeyer | well the only reason you currently have to do a hard reset it because of the package manager I though |
| 21:31.01 | George- | hi benmeyer |
| 21:31.11 | benmeyer | either way... |
| 21:31.11 | treke|home | jffs2 bug. It runs out of room to do garbage collection |
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| 21:32.58 | matsavhalev | ibz: is there any way to try mounting it on the zaurus? it gives me a Block Device Required error |
| 21:33.26 | ibz | matsavhalev: mount what? |
| 21:33.45 | matsavhalev | ibz: the romdisk.bin we were discussing |
| 21:34.00 | matsavhalev | i think maybe my mandrake doesnt support cramfs |
| 21:34.08 | ibz | matsavhalev: your kernel |
| 21:34.34 | matsavhalev | ibz: i am not proficient enough to recompile the kernel, thought maybe i could mount it on the zaurus but i get that error |
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| 21:35.11 | ibz | matsavhalev: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:35.26 | matsavhalev | ibz: get jeode and some libraries to make other software work |
| 21:35.26 | edgar | does anyone know of a case similar to this one that works for the Z http://xigma.jp/en/02/ipod/ ? |
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| 21:35.41 | edgar | i want belt clip but not closing front |
| 21:36.04 | edgar | something like a regular simple walkman cover to clip on belt but still be able to access the buttons |
| 21:36.31 | edgar | to use the zaurus as an mp3 player and be able to reach down and skip songs, etc. |
| 21:36.35 | ibz | matsavhalev: but i thought you mounted it cramfs already? |
| 21:38.08 | matsavhalev | ibz: i mounted it, but i could navigate some of the directory's. They were red in my konsole |
| 21:38.12 | matsavhalev | couldnt |
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| 21:39.11 | ibz | matsavhalev: the red is just a symlink that point nowhere. |
| 21:39.33 | George- | matsavhalev: remember the sharp rom uses a stupid symlink farm |
| 21:39.37 | ibz | matsavhalev: it points nowhere because you haven't chrooted the mount point |
| 21:39.45 | matsavhalev | how do i do that? |
| 21:40.18 | ibz | as root, you can try "chroot /path/to/mountpoint", but it didn't work for me, and i didn't need it that bad |
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| 21:40.53 | matsavhalev | ibz: i'll give it a go, time to reboot.... |
| 21:41.00 | ibz | reboot? |
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| 21:48.59 | matsavhalev | so i get chroot: /bin/bash: Exec format error any ideas? |
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| 21:49.14 | matsavhalev | guess this just isnt gonna happen for me :-) |
| 21:49.16 | ibz | matsavhalev: yeah, stupid suggestion |
| 21:49.37 | matsavhalev | so theres no other way of fixing the symlinks? |
| 21:49.49 | ibz | matsavhalev: chroot changes the root directory, and then tries to find binaries/libraries in the new root |
| 21:50.05 | ibz | matsavhalev: which means it tries to execute the bash for the arm Z |
| 21:51.17 | ibz | matsavhalev: anyway, are you just trying to create the jeode ipk? |
| 21:51.44 | matsavhalev | ibz: need the jeode ipk and also some libraries from the sharp rom (to try to fix qcopilot and hancomword) |
| 21:52.14 | ibz | matsavhalev: hancomword is just about fixed - ask NightStar |
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| 21:52.46 | JasonNJ | hey dudes. |
| 21:52.53 | ibz | but to create the ipk... |
| 21:53.04 | JasonNJ | Anyone want to buy a couple of cheap SL-5500's for xmas? |
| 21:53.24 | ibz | JasonNJ: 5500 or 5600? |
| 21:53.27 | ibz | heh |
| 21:53.27 | JasonNJ | 5500 |
| 21:53.34 | matsavhalev | ibz: NightStar? i see no Nightstar. need to get qcopilot running as well, it just says aborted when i run it, i think it doesn't work in oz |
| 21:53.44 | ibz | matsavhalev: ok |
| 21:54.07 | JasonNJ | $249 apeice, its a good buy |
| 21:54.20 | ibz | matsavhalev: basically, extract the creator ipk |
| 21:54.37 | ibz | matsavhalev: extract the control.tar.gz |
| 21:54.52 | ibz | edit the postinst |
| 21:55.07 | ibz | you need to change the path's in there... |
| 21:55.24 | ibz | i need to pop out...will be back in like half and hour... |
| 21:55.46 | ibz | we can go through it in tandem |
| 21:56.00 | matsavhalev | ok, i will be popping out for a bit soon as well |
| 21:56.07 | matsavhalev | ibz|out: thx for your help |
| 21:56.08 | JasonNJ | ibot topic |
| 21:56.18 | *** mode/#zaurus [+o JasonNJ] by ChanServ |
| 21:58.56 | JasonNJ | shit how do you append something to the topic |
| 21:59.21 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.03 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.40 | KhensU | JasonNJ: is that US only? |
| 22:00.40 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.49 | JasonNJ | yes, has to ship to a US address |
| 22:00.52 | JasonNJ | its a comdex special |
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| 22:01.49 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.52 | chouimat|bored | fuck!! |
| 22:02.05 | KhensU | chouimat|bored: heh |
| 22:02.10 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.21 | chouimat|bored | KhensU: I'm not in the us :( |
| 22:02.30 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.31 | *** topic/#zaurus by ibot -> Sharp 5000d/5500/5600/A300/C700/etc Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ | http://MyZaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus questions, join #openzaurus | OpenZaurus 3.0 is released! | SL-5600 has been announced. | NEW: screenshots section added to openzaurus.org | sick of ipkg bugs? try out the new bugfree version at http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/ipks/ (bitch at TMM1 if you find any bugs) || WWW.ZAURUSVIP.COM: code VS0002 for a $249 Z!!! Ends the 27th. ( |
| 22:02.43 | KhensU | chouimat|bored: I know. I'm in vancouver |
| 22:02.43 | JasonNJ | argh |
| 22:02.59 | ljp | wel want $249 5600's |
| 22:03.08 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.31 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.32 | chouimat|bored | maybe if we send a check to JasonNJ with our address he can get one of those for us :) |
| 22:04.21 | JasonNJ | how the hell is that topic command supposed to work |
| 22:06.18 | *** topic/#zaurus by chouimat|bored -> Sharp 5000d/5500/5600/A300/C700/etc Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ | http://MyZaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus questions, join #openzaurus | OpenZaurus 3.0 is released! | SL-5600 has been announced. | NEW: screenshots section added to openzaurus.org | sick of ipkg bugs? try out the new bugfree version at http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/ipks/ (bitch at TMM1 if you find any bugs) || WWW.ZAURUSVIP.COM: code VS0002 for a $249 |
| 22:07.54 | chouimat|bored | JasonNJ: topic too long |
| 22:08.15 | *** join/#zaurus matsavhalev (~matsavhal@taryag.vcisp.net) |
| 22:08.32 | JasonNJ | ok, I just want to change it to that temporarily |
| 22:08.43 | JasonNJ | so channel participants can take advantage of it |
| 22:09.00 | benmeyer | bla, rsync keeps getting 4 or 5 files uploaded and then blam hangs until it times out. Anyone posibly know why? |
| 22:09.05 | benmeyer | Hey JasonNJ |
| 22:10.06 | JasonNJ | ben: |
| 22:10.10 | JasonNJ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.19 | benmeyer | haha |
| 22:10.23 | JasonNJ | ben: please circulate that |
| 22:10.26 | JasonNJ | but not on the lists |
| 22:10.29 | chouimat|bored | just found that they will probably sell the 5600 next summer in canada :( |
| 22:10.32 | JasonNJ | get someone else to let people know |
| 22:10.39 | benmeyer | ok, hey everyone read what JasonNJ just wrote |
| 22:10.40 | benmeyer | hehe |
| 22:11.02 | chouimat|bored | JasonNJ: I will send you a check. can you order one for me :) |
| 22:11.33 | JasonNJ | chouimat: order the unit and send it to me, with a check for the shipping cost |
| 22:12.19 | chouimat|bored | JasonNJ: will wait the next model. need money for xmas holiday in Switzerland |
| 22:12.23 | George- | JasonNJ: Do they ship to UK? |
| 22:12.25 | George- | JasonNJ: hehe |
| 22:12.29 | JasonNJ | george: no |
| 22:12.34 | JasonNJ | has to be a us shipping address |
| 22:12.37 | George- | lol |
| 22:12.37 | JasonNJ | so send it to a friend |
| 22:12.41 | George- | My uncle lives in VA :) |
| 22:12.43 | JasonNJ | and have them send it to you |
| 22:12.47 | George- | but anyway, I have no money |
| 22:13.02 | chouimat|bored | George-: my DC was defect :( |
| 22:13.11 | George- | chouimat|bored: DC? |
| 22:13.16 | chouimat|bored | dreamcast |
| 22:13.19 | George- | hahahaha |
| 22:13.34 | George- | I have 4 fucking dead pixels on my Z |
| 22:13.36 | chouimat|bored | George-: and the other unit they have in stock too |
| 22:13.38 | George- | lol |
| 22:13.40 | matsavhalev | could someone possibly consider sending me the jeode ipk?? i have spent all day trying to rip with romburst |
| 22:13.55 | chouimat|bored | matsavhalev: try jeodcreator |
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| 22:14.25 | matsavhalev | cant reflash to sharp rom |
| 22:14.33 | George- | why not? |
| 22:14.36 | matsavhalev | no cf card |
| 22:14.44 | SillyZ | presents a problem |
| 22:14.46 | George- | ok, that's a problem |
| 22:14.50 | SillyZ | :) |
| 22:14.51 | treke|home | matsavhalev: how did you get onto oz? |
| 22:15.02 | matsavhalev | i know, thats why i have been playing with romburst. I had a cf card, it got wet :-( |
| 22:15.17 | treke|home | did you try it after it dried out? |
| 22:15.30 | matsavhalev | yep, doesnt work |
| 22:15.42 | George- | How big was it? |
| 22:16.05 | matsavhalev | 96 Mb ive had it for years since my psion |
| 22:16.14 | George- | matsavhalev: oooooh.. what psion??? :) |
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| 22:16.51 | matsavhalev | 5 and 5mx i had, my gf has the 5mx since i got the zaurus but i still miss the keyboard |
| 22:17.01 | George- | Yeh |
| 22:17.07 | George- | I had both the 5 and 5mx, then a 5000D |
| 22:17.13 | George- | Did you run linux on them? |
| 22:17.26 | matsavhalev | nope, never tried that project |
| 22:17.37 | George- | harrumph |
| 22:17.37 | George- | lol |
| 22:17.53 | George- | I got Opie working on the 5mx :) |
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| 22:33.36 | matsavhalev | cool, how slow was it? |
| 22:34.46 | George- | matsavhalev: very |
| 22:34.49 | George- | matsavhalev: hehehe |
| 22:35.02 | George- | matsavhalev: Well, another dude got Opie running, I got it to work with the fb properly |
| 22:35.13 | benmeyer | This is so funny |
| 22:35.20 | George- | benmeyer: yes? |
| 22:35.34 | benmeyer | SunOS no matter what I try wont allow me to transfer this 1 file |
| 22:35.46 | IRCMonkey | whois matsavhalev |
| 22:35.52 | benmeyer | allways will stall and die |
| 22:35.54 | benmeyer | haha |
| 22:35.57 | George- | rofl |
| 22:36.06 | benmeyer | must be a odd path or something |
| 22:36.18 | George- | kernel/qgfxvnc_qws.cpp: In constructor `QVNCServer::QVNCServer()': |
| 22:36.18 | George- | kernel/qgfxvnc_qws.cpp:369: choosing `QServerSocket::QServerSocket(short |
| 22:36.18 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.18 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.18 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.19 | George- | kernel/qgfxvnc_qws.cpp:369: because worst conversion for the former is better |
| 22:36.19 | benmeyer | ftp, rsync, sftp, nothing |
| 22:36.21 | George- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.22 | George- | WTF? |
| 22:36.46 | noda | benmeyer: Are you transferring to an ext2-formatted SD/CF card with the 'sync' option enabled? |
| 22:37.00 | benmeyer | nothign to do with the Zaurus |
| 22:37.08 | noda | Oh |
| 22:37.10 | benmeyer | totally offtopic |
| 22:37.11 | benmeyer | soryr |
| 22:37.15 | benmeyer | should have said that first |
| 22:37.31 | benmeyer | from my redhat desktop to the SunOS Server at school |
| 22:37.38 | noda | Oh, heh :) |
| 22:37.45 | George- | Oh, your school runs a DECENT os |
| 22:37.53 | noda | What about http? |
| 22:37.54 | benmeyer | hehe you should see the box |
| 22:37.54 | George- | (in comparison to Microshit) |
| 22:38.11 | benmeyer | 6 486's running in paralel |
| 22:38.14 | George- | :) |
| 22:38.16 | noda | ROFL |
| 22:38.24 | noda | That's some powerful shit! :P |
| 22:38.34 | George- | lol |
| 22:38.39 | George- | More powerful than my TiBook |
| 22:38.39 | Nighthawk98TJ | what directory on the Z do .tar.gz files go when you upload them with Qtopia? |
| 22:38.40 | George- | =P |
| 22:38.51 | benmeyer | well the new quad box from Sun is much better |
| 22:38.56 | noda | Nighthawk98TJ: /root/Documents/... erm, something. |
| 22:39.00 | benmeyer | but the 486 machine is huge |
| 22:39.03 | noda | Just transfer one and 'find' it :) |
| 22:39.04 | benmeyer | takes up half the room |
| 22:39.08 | benmeyer | very cool non-less |
| 22:39.13 | George- | LOL |
| 22:39.23 | Nighthawk98TJ | noda: hmm, that's what i thought... |
| 22:39.23 | George- | why the HELL does it take up half a room |
| 22:39.32 | benmeyer | fiber channel for the drives etc |
| 22:39.43 | benmeyer | the fan is 3 feet by 2 feet |
| 22:39.50 | benmeyer | 3x3x2 |
| 22:39.58 | *** topic/#zaurus by BZFlag -> Sharp 5000d/5500/5600/A300/C700/etc Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ | http://MyZaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus 3.0 is released! #OpenZaurus | SL-5600 announced | NEW: screenshots section on openzaurus.org | ipkg bugs? new bugfree version at http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/ipks/ (bugs to TMM1) || WWW.ZAURUSVIP.COM: code VS0002 for a $249 Ends 27th |
| 22:40.04 | Nighthawk98TJ | there it si... |
| 22:40.11 | chouimat|bored | benmeyer: you get that from where? |
| 22:40.22 | benmeyer | donated via amd |
| 22:40.27 | George- | LOL |
| 22:40.38 | George- | I'm sorry, but a 3x2 feet fan is going OTT |
| 22:40.47 | noda | BZFlag: That should be "for a $249 SL-5500" shouldn't it? |
| 22:41.07 | benmeyer | OTT? |
| 22:41.13 | George- | Over The Top |
| 22:41.18 | benmeyer | well the fan is simply to circulate air in the machine |
| 22:41.22 | *** topic/#zaurus by BZFlag -> Sharp 5000d/5500/5600/A300/C700/etc Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ || http://MyZaurus.com/ || OpenZaurus 3.0 is released! #OpenZaurus || SL-5600 announced || NEW: screenshots section on openzaurus.org || ipkg bugs? new bugfree version at http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/ipks/ (bugs to TMM1) || WWW.ZAURUSVIP.COM: code VS0002 for a $249 SL-5500 Ends 27th |
| 22:41.23 | benmeyer | it is part of the machine |
| 22:41.26 | benmeyer | came with it |
| 22:41.50 | George- | lol |
| 22:41.53 | chouimat|bored | and when the machine die, that kind of fan his able to refresh a room |
| 22:41.58 | Com[Plex] | 249$ |
| 22:41.59 | Com[Plex] | nice |
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| 22:42.18 | George- | I'm not gonna waste money buying a $249 Z 5500. I'll wait for the 5600 :) |
| 22:42.20 | Com[Plex] | how much is an ipaq with the same cpu/ram/rom/ etc |
| 22:42.29 | noda | $249? Waste? |
| 22:42.33 | Com[Plex] | wtf |
| 22:42.39 | Com[Plex] | george, open asshole, remove head |
| 22:42.49 | George- | huh? |
| 22:42.53 | treke|home | Com[Plex]: An ipaq od similar specs to the 5500? |
| 22:42.58 | Com[Plex] | yeah treke |
| 22:43.11 | Com[Plex] | like 500+ ? |
| 22:43.16 | treke|home | No |
| 22:43.23 | George- | You mean the H3750? |
| 22:43.24 | treke|home | Discontinued :) |
| 22:43.37 | Com[Plex] | uh..well what Ipaqs are out now? |
| 22:43.38 | treke|home | it would be the 3670 I think |
| 22:43.54 | George- | How much ram does the 3670 have? |
| 22:43.58 | treke|home | 64mb |
| 22:44.00 | George- | I thought it only have 32 |
| 22:44.10 | Com[Plex] | whats is basically the equivalent of a Z, minus kb of course; priced compared to a z |
| 22:44.11 | treke|home | There was a 64mb 3600 |
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| 22:44.55 | George- | hrmm, but the 36xx series had only 4096 colours |
| 22:45.00 | George- | the 5500 has 65536 |
| 22:45.10 | Com[Plex] | http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpdirect/shopping/scripts/generic_store/generic_subcategory_view.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0038121271.1038091712@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccdgadcgldheiglcfngcfkmdfondfgf.0&category=handhelds&subcat1=ipaq&cat_level=1 |
| 22:45.15 | noda | I thought all ipaqs had 64k colours. |
| 22:45.20 | treke|home | noda: no |
| 22:45.29 | treke|home | noda: The 3700 and older had 12bit displays |
| 22:45.52 | Com[Plex] | the ipaqs on this page have a larger rom than the z by 16 mb. but no native cf slot. |
| 22:45.55 | chouimat|bored | noda: my palm is 4bits gray scale |
| 22:46.02 | nadav | anyone wanna buy a 5000D with 64mb CF + CF reader? |
| 22:46.05 | Com[Plex] | for 399 AFTER rebate |
| 22:46.11 | George- | A friend of mine has a 4096 colour CSTN on his jornada |
| 22:46.12 | Com[Plex] | nadav: how much? |
| 22:46.13 | George- | it is shit |
| 22:46.30 | benmeyer | after opening the file in gimp and re-saving it I can send it |
| 22:46.31 | nadav | Com[Plex]: i dunno, make an offer. |
| 22:46.33 | benmeyer | yah that is a bug |
| 22:46.35 | nadav | :P |
| 22:46.35 | treke|home | George-: Well like I said. I've got a 16bit display now, and had a 12. I dont see any difference |
| 22:46.54 | George- | treke|home: I doubt you would, there isn't much difference to be honest |
| 22:46.54 | Com[Plex] | 100$ |
| 22:46.59 | nadav | Com[Plex]: riight. |
| 22:47.03 | George- | treke|home: most of the colours are undetectable |
| 22:47.03 | Com[Plex] | 150? |
| 22:47.05 | noda | Bah, I can spot the difference between 16 and 32... |
| 22:47.15 | George- | NUHDUHV |
| 22:47.17 | treke|home | Maybe watching video or looking at an image youd see it, but not average use |
| 22:47.21 | nadav | GEORGE |
| 22:47.24 | noda | Well I guess. |
| 22:47.34 | noda | Since you only deal with solid colours anyway |
| 22:47.36 | nadav | George-: how's everything? |
| 22:47.40 | George- | nadav: evil |
| 22:47.45 | nadav | haha |
| 22:47.54 | George- | my tibook is doing nicely :) |
| 22:47.59 | nadav | heh |
| 22:48.01 | George- | And my Z has 4 dead pixels |
| 22:48.02 | George- | lol |
| 22:48.04 | nadav | lol |
| 22:48.07 | treke|home | I dont know what it does in WinCE, but in linux it pretends to be 16bit color :) |
| 22:48.07 | nadav | wanna buy mine? |
| 22:48.08 | nadav | :P |
| 22:48.36 | Com[Plex] | nadav: 150? |
| 22:49.01 | Com[Plex] | I wanna get one for my mom. |
| 22:49.03 | Com[Plex] | :> |
| 22:49.18 | nadav | Com[Plex]: still too low |
| 22:49.26 | nadav | :P |
| 22:49.35 | Com[Plex] | ahh. well. if I was gonna spend any more than that, I would get a 5500 |
| 22:49.40 | Com[Plex] | sorry mate |
| 22:49.44 | nadav | heh, no problem |
| 22:49.48 | Com[Plex] | especially with the 5500 only 249 |
| 22:50.00 | nadav | ugh |
| 22:50.01 | nadav | $250? |
| 22:50.14 | George- | nadav: I'll buy your Z on it's own for 50 USD |
| 22:50.28 | noda | lol |
| 22:50.32 | George- | (I'm not joking) |
| 22:50.34 | noda | I'll buy it for $25. |
| 22:50.36 | nadav | George-: as soon as you sell me your tibook for $500 |
| 22:50.37 | George- | That's how much it's worth |
| 22:50.42 | George- | lol |
| 22:50.46 | nadav | George-: it works.. |
| 22:50.48 | George- | My tibook is worth about 1000 USD :) |
| 22:50.51 | nadav | sharp fixed it |
| 22:50.53 | noda | No, $20! |
| 22:50.56 | nadav | haha |
| 22:50.59 | noda | And that's my final offer. |
| 22:51.00 | Com[Plex] | WWW.ZAURUSVIP.COM: code VS0002 for a $249 SL-5500 Ends 27th |
| 22:51.05 | George- | noda: SOLD! |
| 22:51.11 | treke|home | if it worked |
| 22:51.20 | George- | treke|home: with 4 dead pixels? |
| 22:51.39 | treke|home | depends |
| 22:51.45 | George- | lol, why? |
| 22:51.56 | George- | It's in perfect condition otherwise |
| 22:52.03 | George- | It's in the same condition that I got it from sharp in |
| 22:52.15 | treke|home | nadav: what was wrong with it? |
| 22:52.39 | George- | ahh well |
| 22:52.50 | George- | I'm gonna buy a new hdd for my tibook instead of getting yet another z |
| 22:52.52 | George- | heh |
| 22:53.00 | treke|home | George-: I'd definitly buy 4 dead pixels for 50 bucks |
| 22:53.07 | nadav | treke|home: previous owner flashed it with a 5500 kernel, and i couldn't flash it back |
| 22:53.22 | treke|home | nadav: brilliant :) |
| 22:53.23 | George- | rofl |
| 22:53.31 | treke|home | flashing oz doesnt fix it? |
| 22:53.33 | George- | retaad :P |
| 22:53.36 | nadav | it wouldn't flash anything |
| 22:53.48 | nadav | well, it never finished flashing |
| 22:53.49 | treke|home | ha |
| 22:53.50 | nadav | :) |
| 22:54.06 | treke|home | then that's out :) |
| 22:54.19 | George- | how the FUCK can someone flash a 5500 rom onto a 5000D |
| 22:54.23 | nadav | so i sent it to sharp, they flashed it, i didn't ask how |
| 23:53.13 | *** join/#zaurus ibot (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 23:53.13 | *** topic/#zaurus is Sharp 5000d/5500/5600/A300/C700/etc Discussion - http://developer.sharpsec.com/ || http://MyZaurus.com/ || OpenZaurus 3.0 is released! #OpenZaurus || SL-5600 announced || NEW: screenshots section on openzaurus.org || ipkg bugs? new bugfree version at http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/ipks/ (bugs to TMM1) || WWW.ZAURUSVIP.COM: code VS0002 for a $249 SL-5500 Ends 27th |
| 23:53.32 | chouimat|bored | hope it will work on my boxes |
| 23:54.02 | TheMasterMind1 | $249?! |
| 23:54.03 | TheMasterMind1 | jeez |
| 23:54.33 | chouimat|bored | TheMasterMind1: I will get a PlayStation2 with the linux kit for xmas :) |
| 23:54.40 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:55.17 | chouimat|bored | TheMasterMind1: image OZ buildroot on that :) |
| 23:55.18 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, i bet zaurusvip is some ripoff site that steals cc nums |
| 23:55.31 | chouimat|bored | TheMasterMind1: ask JasonNJ |
| 23:55.48 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 23:56.04 | TheMasterMind1 | did you guys see the latest output stuf? |
| 23:56.04 | treke|home | <JasonNJ> Yes it is. It's my rip off site that steals cc nums |
| 23:56.36 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 23:57.40 | chouimat|bored | TheMasterMind1: 16 tomorrow? |
| 23:57.53 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 23:59.40 | TheMasterMind1 | argh, anyone know where onyx4's mplayer is? |
| 23:59.41 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot mplayer |
| 23:59.42 | | methinks mplayer is http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/mplayer_0.90pre7-1e_arm.ipk, or see http://www.zeb.uklinux.net/encoding.html |
| 23:59.46 | TheMasterMind1 | bleh |
