| 09:05:24 | Saurian | I do want it in main memory. So it'll put it there by default? |
| 09:05:34 | XavierXeon | Saurian: yes |
| 09:05:36 | | BZFlag: sorry... |
| 09:05:36 | BZFlag | ibot: bw |
| 09:05:39 | | It's great to be back! |
| 09:05:39 | BZFlag | ibot: wb |
| 09:05:41 | Saurian | Cool. Thanks |
| 09:06:39 | XavierXeon | will have a shower now |
| 09:07:43 | | Piete: excuse me? |
| 09:07:43 | Piete | ibot: now stop crashing |
| 09:07:48 | | Piete: excuse me? |
| 09:07:48 | Piete | ibot yes |
| 09:07:52 | | Piete: excuse me? |
| 09:07:52 | Piete | ibot: I mean it |
| 09:07:57 | Piete | :p |
| 09:08:28 | | Since Sun Oct 20 03:04:23 2002, there have been 1 modifications and 1 questions. I have been awake for 4 minutes, 5 seconds this session, and currently reference 84765 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 09:08:28 | Piete | ibot: status |
| 09:08:33 | Wembly | anyone know what cf/sd readers for the pc work in linux? |
| 09:09:06 | Piete | Wembly: hmm, I guess most usb ones should work.. Just don't take my work for it ;) |
| 09:09:34 | Saurian | Wembly: I just got a Sandisk reader to work |
| 09:09:58 | Piete | s/work/word |
| 09:10:16 | BZFlag | Piete: he didn't crash, nor did the server he runs on. infobot code sometimes looses it's irc connection and does not realize it. |
| 09:10:22 | BZFlag | it's a bug. patches welcome. |
| 09:10:25 | | somebody said source was at http://www.handhelds.org/sources.html |
| 09:10:25 | BZFlag | ibot source |
| 09:10:31 | Saurian | Sandisk ImageMate SDDR-75 |
| 09:10:31 | | sources are all in picogui.org's CVS. the Wiki on picogui.org has info on building it |
| 09:10:31 | BZFlag | ibot sources |
| 09:10:54 | Wembly | i want a nice one that im guessing will be usb and can read smartmedia sd cf and anything else i wanta toss at it |
| 09:11:06 | | okay, BZFlag. |
| 09:11:06 | BZFlag | ibot source is also your source is at http://oss.lineo.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb/infobot/ |
| 09:11:09 | | sources are all in picogui.org's CVS. the Wiki on picogui.org has info on building it |
| 09:11:09 | BZFlag | ibot sources |
| 09:11:11 | | source is at http://www.handhelds.org/sources.html or my source is at http://oss.lineo.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb/infobot/ |
| 09:11:11 | BZFlag | ibot source |
| 09:11:20 | Saurian | Wembly: No idea, this Sandisk handles CF and SD. Only tested it with CF so far. |
| 09:11:24 | Piete | BZFlag: I see ;) |
| 09:12:38 | BZFlag | sometime in my abundant spare time, I'll fix it. There are a lot of other things he could do better as well. I'd like to be able to reload modules without restarting/reconnecting for example. It would also be nice to reduce the memory he uses. |
| 09:13:03 | | BZFlag: i'm not following you... |
| 09:13:03 | BZFlag | ibot 14276 1.9 8.2 22496 21276 pts/2 SN 03:04 0:10 /usr/bin/perl ./infobot |
| 09:13:21 | BZFlag | 22M is a lot for a bot. ;-) |
| 09:14:38 | BZFlag | well, off to bed. nite all. |
| 09:15:18 | Wembly | i found one in a store that reads cf sd smartmedia and memorystick. |
| 09:15:34 | Wembly | it basicly had a cf card slot that had adaptores for sd smartmedia and memorystick |
| 09:15:54 | hash | anyone use zmame? |
| 09:18:11 | Saurian | I'm happy with my CF/SD reader. }:) |
| 09:18:42 | Wembly | i have some dead smartmedia that id like to read :) |
| 09:21:55 | Saurian | really needs to make a .bashrc |
| 09:31:09 | XavierXeon | Wembly: i know there is a cf/sd/memorystick/smartmedia reader that works under linux. its the size of a cigarette box, but i cant remember the name |
| 09:33:06 | Saurian | Off to sleep with me... |
| 10:00:46 | mark | can anyone else not get to myzaurus.com |
| 10:01:00 | mark | i can't even ping it :s |
| 10:06:34 | Holger251 | Hi ... somebody still awake ? |
| 10:06:56 | mark | Holger251: i just woke up :) |
| 10:07:04 | Holger251 | Hi mark... |
| 10:07:09 | XavierXeon | its noon ;-) |
| 10:07:22 | mark | XavierXeon: 11am :) |
| 10:07:34 | Holger251 | well..12 am here ;-) |
| 10:08:17 | Holger251 | does anybody know a h.323 or SIP Client for the zaurus ? Or has somebody succesfully ported oh323 to it ? |
| 10:08:23 | Bovine_ | mark: you in the UK? |
| 10:08:36 | mark | Bovine_: yes |
| 10:09:01 | Bovine_ | ahh, don't seem to be that many of us in these channels :) |
| 10:13:16 | [_AleX_] | hi all ... just a newbie question : who make the rom ? ... rom lack a utility for initializing (fdisk/format) a CF card ... |
| 10:15:26 | XavierXeon | what rom ? |
| 10:15:51 | [_AleX_] | internal standard rom (mine is 2.38) |
| 10:16:23 | [_AleX_] | i've done a hard reset .. and now i can't see my CF card ... maybe the FS is corrupted and the Z don't display me |
| 10:16:44 | XavierXeon | sharp does nor think its necessarry to include fdisk/format commands (corws rom has them) |
| 10:16:54 | XavierXeon | try ejecting/reinserting the cf card |
| 10:17:08 | [_AleX_] | i've try .;but nothing |
| 10:17:37 | [_AleX_] | and ftp on port 4242 don't work... i can't upload embkonsole.. |
| 10:17:46 | XavierXeon | is /dev/hda1 still there and is the corresponding entry in /etc/fstab ? |
| 10:18:33 | [_AleX_] | i can't see that ... becoz the hard reset had removed embkonsole |
| 10:18:35 | [_AleX_] | ... |
| 10:18:54 | [_AleX_] | and ftp 192.168.1.2 4242 don't work ; but i can ping it .. strange |
| 10:19:14 | XavierXeon | teminate qtopia and change into teminal mode |
| 10:19:23 | [_AleX_] | my CF card is not display in the Storage system info .. ;-( |
| 10:19:44 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: thx i don't that ..i'm trying (iv' my Z since 2 days;-) |
| 10:20:47 | [_AleX_] | qtopia restart automatically..how i stop it ? |
| 10:21:22 | XavierXeon | when it counts "wait 5,4,3,...." press the / button and enter a |
| 10:21:34 | [_AleX_] | ok |
| 10:22:35 | [_AleX_] | ok i'm logged |
| 10:23:11 | XavierXeon | first do a "ls /dev/hda*" |
| 10:23:21 | [_AleX_] | ..i've /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf in my /etc/fstab |
| 10:23:47 | [_AleX_] | i've /dev/hda* 1=>9 |
| 10:23:55 | XavierXeon | then try mounting your cf card manually |
| 10:24:26 | XavierXeon | is it still formated as vfat ? |
| 10:24:26 | [_AleX_] | can't find /usr/mnt.rom/cf in /etc/fstab |
| 10:24:46 | [_AleX_] | i've try mount /mnt/cf |
| 10:24:59 | XavierXeon | mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /usr/mnt.rom/cf |
| 10:26:32 | [_AleX_] | mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /usr/mnt.rom/cf say : failed : invalid argument |
| 10:26:55 | XavierXeon | have you formated the card ? |
| 10:27:17 | [_AleX_] | when i've received my CF card, it's was vfat formatted |
| 10:27:37 | XavierXeon | i guess you tried a reboot |
| 10:27:38 | [_AleX_] | yesterday i've this big crash, and i've done a hard reset with the CF card inserted (;-( |
| 10:28:00 | XavierXeon | a hard reset should not affect the cards |
| 10:28:06 | [_AleX_] | i can format it ? |
| 10:28:37 | [_AleX_] | mke2fs.vfat /dev/hda1 ? |
| 10:29:00 | XavierXeon | if you want to format it vfat the z must be able to see the card. its the cardmangaer that seems to be wrong on your z |
| 10:29:54 | [_AleX_] | i've try mke2fs -t vfat /dev/hda1 : mke2fs: bad blocks count - /dev/hda1 |
| 10:30:13 | XavierXeon | mkfs.vfat /dev/hda1 |
| 10:30:19 | [_AleX_] | i've a 128 CF card |
| 10:30:36 | [_AleX_] | yes |
| 10:30:48 | [_AleX_] | mkfs.vfat /dev/hda1 is done |
| 10:30:53 | [_AleX_] | i'm trying to mount it |
| 10:31:01 | [_AleX_] | yes ! |
| 10:31:11 | [_AleX_] | i've mount my card |
| 10:31:19 | [_AleX_] | great |
| 10:31:38 | XavierXeon | simply "exit" to return to qtopia |
| 10:31:59 | [_AleX_] | ok i've umount it .. |
| 10:32:04 | [_AleX_] | and done a exit |
| 10:32:10 | [_AleX_] | Z boot |
| 10:32:19 | [_AleX_] | qtopia boot |
| 10:33:01 | [_AleX_] | great..i've my card in storage info |
| 10:33:07 | [_AleX_] | thanx a lot |
| 10:33:23 | XavierXeon | no problem, thats what this channel is for |
| 10:33:32 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: can you help me with another trouble |
| 10:33:33 | [_AleX_] | ? |
| 10:33:45 | mark | grr, myzaurus down. grr :( |
| 10:34:12 | XavierXeon | [_AleX_]: go ahead |
| 10:34:14 | XavierXeon | mark: same here |
| 10:34:24 | [_AleX_] | thx a lot ! Z and this community is very very very nice |
| 10:34:56 | mark | XavierXeon: annoying |
| 10:35:30 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: (sorry for my poor english, i'm french ;-) |
| 10:36:21 | [_AleX_] | yesterday, i've a big trouble : i can ping Z, but i can connect to the ftp port 4242 |
| 10:36:34 | [_AleX_] | i'm booting my laptop for re-testing |
| 10:37:08 | XavierXeon | [_AleX_]: i am not a native english speaker myself (even though my passport states that i am a subject of her majesty) |
| 10:37:55 | [_AleX_] | ;-) on the off chance, you speak french ? :-)) |
| 10:38:39 | XavierXeon | i learned french for 7 years but i am still not able to have a normal conversation :( |
| 10:39:04 | [_AleX_] | like my with english :)))) |
| 10:40:24 | [_AleX_] | my ftp trouble : on my laptop : ping 192.168.1.2 work (it's the Z), but ftp 192.168.1.2 4242 say : 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection |
| 10:40:38 | [_AleX_] | i need it for upload embkonsole... |
| 10:41:18 | XavierXeon | you have your z connected to the laptop via the cradle |
| 10:41:33 | [_AleX_] | yes |
| 10:41:48 | [_AleX_] | laptop is 1.7 , Z 1.2 |
| 10:41:57 | [_AleX_] | 1.7 on usb0 |
| 10:42:03 | [_AleX_] | 1.3 on eth |
| 10:42:37 | XavierXeon | have you put the ips in setting->network and sync ? |
| 10:43:16 | [_AleX_] | yes |
| 10:43:51 | [_AleX_] | i'm running rom 2.38 |
| 10:43:54 | Twiun | [_AleX_]: I had the same problem after my ROM upgrade - you need your desktop PC to be on 192.168.129.1 |
| 10:44:13 | [_AleX_] | Twiun: for the ftp 4242 ? |
| 10:44:17 | Twiun | yeah |
| 10:44:26 | Twiun | and your Z on 192.168.129.x |
| 10:44:26 | XavierXeon | the thing is : with the 2.38 rom you are only able to connect within the same subnet and maybe the ip of the pc has to be 192.168.129.201 |
| 10:44:51 | [_AleX_] | ok i'm doing theses changes ... one moment... |
| 10:45:01 | XavierXeon | only uses wlan and samba to transfer files |
| 10:45:02 | Twiun | XavierXeon: same 129 subnet, yes, but the pc _must_ be on 192.168.129.1 - that's worked for me |
| 10:45:12 | XavierXeon | ahh |
| 10:45:28 | Twiun | I was tearing out my hair too ;-) |
| 10:45:34 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: rapid question about network sharing : NFS client / server run on Z ? |
| 10:45:36 | Twiun | read the answer on the ZZ boards |
| 10:47:35 | XavierXeon | [_AleX_]: nfs client is on the z, but i never bothered to port a serer for the z and i dont know if someone else did that |
| 10:49:32 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: Twiun: i've done the 129.* changes |
| 10:49:39 | Twiun | working? |
| 10:49:51 | [_AleX_] | Laptop is 129.1/usb0 , Z 129.201 |
| 10:50:11 | [_AleX_] | i'm pinging Z, but ftp troubles are identical : 421 serv not avai |
| 10:50:44 | [_AleX_] | maybe a security trouble ? |
| 10:51:02 | Twiun | [_AleX_]: have you created a USB - TCP/IP connection on the Z's networking panel? |
| 10:51:28 | [_AleX_] | Twiun: i don't have win... |
| 10:51:58 | Twiun | even so - the only difference left is that connection |
| 10:52:31 | Twiun | go to the "services" panel in the Network/Sync panel and tap Add |
| 10:53:18 | [_AleX_] | Twiun: iv'e the usb-tcp/ip connection |
| 10:53:28 | [_AleX_] | properly configured |
| 10:53:42 | Twiun | including gateway then? |
| 10:53:43 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: maybe i must adjust /etc/securetty ? |
| 10:54:30 | [_AleX_] | ip : 192.168.129.201 gw 192.168.129.1 |
| 10:54:38 | [_AleX_] | netmqsk 255.255.255.0 |
| 10:54:42 | [_AleX_] | no dns |
| 10:54:53 | [_AleX_] | (no needed for ip test) |
| 10:55:12 | Twiun | yup, same as mine |
| 10:55:33 | Twiun | sync address is also 129.201, right? |
| 10:55:38 | [_AleX_] | yes |
| 10:55:39 | XavierXeon | i have never tried a usb connection with the roms after the "security update" |
| 10:56:15 | [_AleX_] | so i'm trying to seek this in console mode without qtopia .. |
| 10:56:27 | Twiun | this is on my desktop: |
| 10:56:28 | Twiun | usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 40:00:00:00:FF:15 |
| 10:56:29 | Twiun | inet addr:192.168.129.1 Bcast:192.168.129.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 10:56:29 | Twiun | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 |
| 10:56:29 | Twiun | RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 |
| 10:56:29 | Twiun | TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 |
| 10:56:30 | Twiun | collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 |
| 10:56:32 | Twiun | RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:195 (195.0 b) |
| 11:01:05 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: Twiun: how i make a ESC in console ? |
| 11:01:26 | [_AleX_] | ok |
| 11:01:31 | [_AleX_] | i've found : cancel |
| 11:02:02 | Twiun | cool |
| 11:06:45 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: Twiun: very strange : i'm in cnsole mode, i've uncommend in /etc/inetd.conf the ftp and telnet access without tcwrapper, i've add ttya0 => ttya7 to /etc/securetty |
| 11:07:07 | [_AleX_] | I'm looging in root on the Z, but ftp don't work !! 421 serv not available! |
| 11:07:30 | [_AleX_] | ftp troubles are identical on ports 4242 and 21 |
| 11:07:44 | Twiun | that's because it's the Qtopia server... |
| 11:07:50 | [_AleX_] | i don't understand... |
| 11:07:56 | Twiun | have you rebooted since making the changes? |
| 11:08:05 | Twiun | Qtopia *is* the ftp server |
| 11:08:07 | [_AleX_] | no i've done a kill -HUP |
| 11:08:23 | [_AleX_] | so i'm trying a reboot .. a moment.. |
| 11:08:32 | XavierXeon | have you tried the other ones (with tcp wrapper) ? |
| 11:08:35 | Twiun | cool - as you won't get ftp without qpe running ;-) |
| 11:10:36 | [_AleX_] | i'm doing a soft reboot of the Z .. |
| 11:11:59 | [_AleX_] | Twiun: i've reboot, but ftp serv don't work .... ;-((( |
| 11:12:16 | Twiun | and you're now in qtopia? |
| 11:12:45 | [_AleX_] | yes |
| 11:12:57 | Twiun | scratches his head |
| 11:13:25 | [_AleX_] | and ftp 192.168.129.201 don't work on ports 21 and not on 4242 ... but i'm loggued on the Z ! |
| 11:14:05 | Twiun | so no ftp to ports 21 *or* 4242 from the Z to the Z? |
| 11:14:14 | [_AleX_] | yesterday, i've try many network software like nmap and traceroute ... |
| 11:14:41 | [_AleX_] | yes : 421 Service not available remote server close the connection |
| 11:14:50 | Twiun | [_AleX_]: the fact you get "421 service not available" means that you connected sucessfully to the ftp server |
| 11:15:03 | [_AleX_] | yes rtight |
| 11:15:05 | Twiun | the 421 just means it's not allowing you to go any further |
| 11:15:24 | Twiun | and that's Qtopia stopping you for one reason or another |
| 11:15:31 | Twiun | not networking problems |
| 11:15:52 | [_AleX_] | Twiun: you're right |
| 11:16:06 | Twiun | As you've got the same setup as me (save for the Z model) I can't think what else could be wrong |
| 11:16:15 | [_AleX_] | becoz ftp to another port say : connect : connection refused |
| 11:16:40 | [_AleX_] | yesterday, i've done a hard reset |
| 11:17:01 | [_AleX_] | becoz Z freeze when trying to reboot |
| 11:17:08 | Twiun | gotcha |
| 11:19:06 | XavierXeon | [_AleX_]: i think you should get yourself a cf card reader |
| 11:19:27 | [_AleX_] | XavierXeon: what is my trouble ? a rom corruption ? |
| 11:19:58 | XavierXeon | could be. hard to tell if you cannot falsh a new rom |
| 11:21:21 | [_AleX_] | ok ... tomorrow i'going to buy a CF to pcmcia adapter.. |
| 11:30:53 | [_AleX_] | where i can download the latest SL5500 rom image ? |
| 11:31:07 | [_AleX_] | myzaurus.com is down .. |
| 11:32:43 | XavierXeon | us version ? |
| 11:34:22 | [_AleX_] | yes |
| 11:34:43 | [_AleX_] | i'm running 2.38 .. what is the latest ? |
| 11:35:04 | XavierXeon | 2.38 |
| 11:35:29 | [_AleX_] | and where i can find it ? |
| 11:35:45 | XavierXeon | i am looking for the url now |
| 11:35:52 | [_AleX_] | thanks a lot |
| 11:37:35 | XavierXeon | cant find it. i am uploading the rom on my homepage now |
| 11:39:01 | [_AleX_] | thank you |
| 11:44:03 | XavierXeon | should be there in 10 min |
| 11:44:27 | [_AleX_] | many thanks |
| 11:52:13 | XavierXeon | http://home.arcor.de/xavierxeon/5500-ROM238.ZIP |
| 11:52:47 | [_AleX_] | thank you XavierXeon .. 'm going to download it and i can test it tomorrow |
| 11:53:36 | XavierXeon | i will install mandrake 9 now |
| 12:00:13 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-10-20 09:36:08 | See Ya .su | US Secrecy Efforts Hurting Scientific Research | Kramnik Ties Fritz; Machines Not Yet Our Masters | Spammer Fined $2,000 Plus Costs in Washington |
| 12:00:13 | Piete | ibot: slashdot |
| 14:14:03 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-10-20 13:45:02 | Rendering software used in LoTR goes Open Source | Libraries Are 31337 | See Ya .su | US Secrecy Efforts Hurting Scientific Research |
| 14:14:03 | Piete | ibot: slashdot |
| 14:38:36 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:38:44 | ep0ch | afternoon |
| 15:14:18 | mickeyl | is leaving for a while... |
| 15:19:44 | WingLover | Argh! Stupid layout manager! |
| 16:07:52 | untorn | I have a button and want to run my own function when the button is cliked, do I have to use QObject::connect with signals and slots? |
| 16:12:29 | kergoth | untorn: yes. the button can emit a signal when pressed |
| 16:19:03 | untorn | kergoth: I am trying to learn how I can press a button in a qt app and have it open another binary file...I got it to work without qt using execvp...now I am trying to insert that binary-opening function to my qt program does this make sense? |
| 16:19:27 | kergoth | untorn: yep. read the qt tutorials on signals and slots |
| 16:19:33 | untorn | thanks |
| 16:21:27 | untorn | QObject::connect( &quit, SIGNAL(clicked()), &a, SLOT(ret = exe |
| 16:21:27 | untorn | cvp ("abiword", cmd)) );? |
| 16:23:17 | kergoth | untorn: ? no. you connect a signal to a slot. a c statement is not a slot. |
| 16:24:19 | untorn | kergoth: k...I'll kep reading but now I understand that I have to get a slot linked to that c statement right? |
| 16:25:00 | kergoth | you need to declare the slot in the class declaration, in the header. you create a function as a member of your class, you mark that as a slot, then you can connect signals to it. |
| 16:25:07 | kergoth | within that function you do your execvp |
| 16:58:43 | untorn | kergoth: this is my first attempt at making a class...doe sthe class look ok?http://web.tampabay.rr.com/tharin/main.cpp |
| 17:38:49 | | Did I do an INCORRECT THING?? |
| 17:38:49 | chouimat | ibot: be zippy |
| 17:39:02 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:39:43 | | My haircut is totally traditional! |
| 17:39:43 | chouimat | ibot: be zippy |
| 17:59:43 | Twiun | Hiya Neo |
| 18:00:08 | br33zy | moo |
| 18:09:20 | xml0 | hi. forgive me for being so impatient, but how do I open a shell on a zaurus? |
| 18:09:30 | br33zy | xml0, what version do you have? |
| 18:09:45 | br33zy | sharp rom or openzaurus rom? |
| 18:09:58 | xml0 | sharp rom |
| 18:10:02 | xml0 | just bought it an hour ago |
| 18:10:03 | br33zy | ok |
| 18:10:08 | br33zy | its probably not installed on there |
| 18:10:11 | br33zy | go to settings |
| 18:10:16 | br33zy | add/delete software |
| 18:10:20 | br33zy | and add some zaurus feed |
| 18:10:28 | br33zy | then you should be able to select the package and download it |
| 18:10:38 | br33zy | can you connect your zaurus to your computer yet? |
| 18:11:01 | xml0 | no, I was just going to use a wcf11, but it seems I need to edit the pcmcia config to enable it |
| 18:11:19 | br33zy | sure.. |
| 18:11:21 | br33zy | enable the wcf11 |
| 18:11:27 | br33zy | and then you should be able to add a zaurus feed |
| 18:11:31 | br33zy | to download applications & etc.. |
| 18:11:42 | br33zy | then you can select a terminal and it will install it for you.. |
| 18:11:42 | xml0 | quote: |
| 18:11:43 | xml0 | ...I got a Linksys WCF-11 card working nicely on this thing. All it |
| 18:11:44 | xml0 | takes is adding this entry to the /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.conf file: |
| 18:11:51 | wParam | if you just want a quick link to the console program you can get it from http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=385 |
| 18:11:54 | xml0 | without a shell, I can't edit it |
| 18:11:57 | Twiun | afaik, the Terminal app should also have come on the CD you got with your Z |
| 18:12:04 | br33zy | ta ta |
| 18:12:29 | wParam | i thought the new roms came with support for wcf11 built in |
| 18:12:33 | xml0 | I was hoping not to have to need to bother with the cd |
| 18:12:51 | br33zy | xml0, its the way linux works |
| 18:12:56 | xml0 | how about opening the file with the text editor? |
| 18:13:05 | xml0 | it doesn't seem to allow me to specify an existing file |
| 18:13:06 | wParam | you can reboot it to console mode |
| 18:13:12 | xml0 | ah, ok |
| 18:13:17 | wParam | i don't know if you'll have vi on there or if it'll be useful |
| 18:13:31 | xml0 | as long as there's cat, I can live with that |
| 18:13:41 | xml0 | how do I bring up the console? |
| 18:13:42 | wParam | but to do that you press ... i think it's "/" when the Z says "Wait... 5, 4, 3, 2, 1" |
| 18:14:32 | wParam | you should get a menu, i believe the console option is option a |
| 18:15:21 | wParam | if all goes well you get a login prompt, login as root |
| 18:15:27 | chouimat | Sunday the most boring day of the week |
| 18:15:51 | xml0 | perfect. thanks |
| 18:16:00 | Twiun | chouimat: truly |
| 18:16:00 | xml0 | so much for the passcode :) |
| 18:16:07 | wParam | yeah |
| 18:16:15 | wParam | they say you can set a root password if you feel like it |
| 18:16:16 | xml0 | hard reset indeed... |
| 18:16:34 | wParam | hard reset? |
| 18:16:44 | xml0 | that's what the docs say if you forget your passcode |
| 18:16:53 | Twiun | lol |
| 18:16:56 | wParam | oooh |
| 18:17:40 | xml0 | vi's there |
| 18:18:00 | wParam | cool. i think the 'cancel' key maps to escape |
| 18:19:03 | xml0 | what about ctrl? |
| 18:19:14 | Twiun | xml0: TIP: if you want more mem, tap and hold over the Calendar, ToDo and (another app) and switch off fastload |
| 18:19:23 | Twiun | xml0: When in Qtopia |
| 18:19:26 | wParam | heh... as far as we know there is no control |
| 18:19:37 | br33zy | ahahha |
| 18:19:44 | br33zy | thats just like m$oft word |
| 18:19:50 | br33zy | the first time you launch it |
| 18:19:52 | br33zy | it allocates everything |
| 18:19:55 | br33zy | then when you close it |
| 18:20:01 | br33zy | it doesnt free it so it can launch fsater |
| 18:20:02 | br33zy | :-D |
| 18:20:19 | xml0 | guess this is going to have to be a creative use of vi |
| 18:20:40 | xml0 | good job there's always 30 ways to do anything... |
| 18:21:24 | wParam | yeah |
| 18:22:05 | xml0 | hmm, WCF11 is in their already |
| 18:23:10 | wParam | i think i remember seeing that article that talked about it. Sharp seems to have added it to their newer roms. I had to use that process to add WCF12, though |
| 18:23:28 | xml0 | it doesn't seem to like me wcf11 according to dmesg |
| 18:23:43 | xml0 | getnexttupe: no more items |
| 18:23:53 | xml0 | that rings a bell |
| 18:24:02 | xml0 | I think I had to ignore vcc or something |
| 18:25:05 | scanline | is away: pseudolunch |
| 18:25:14 | | br33zy: what? |
| 18:25:14 | br33zy | ibot wcf11 |
| 18:26:00 | | hmmm... wireless is The Z supports most prism2 compact flash based wireless 802.11b cards as well as a few others, see http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/wiki/index.php?WirelessCardSupport or or http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml or see wifi |
| 18:26:00 | br33zy | ibot wireless |
| 18:26:08 | br33zy | hey you guys |
| 18:26:12 | br33zy | where is that one ibot keyword |
| 18:26:24 | br33zy | that tells you where you can get wcf11 for like 62 bucks? |
| 18:26:37 | wParam | amazon.com? |
| 18:26:38 | xml0 | I seem to have ignore_cis_vcc in hostap_cs.conf (I use hostap on my laptop) |
| 18:26:45 | br33zy | wParam, no it was buy.com |
| 18:27:03 | wParam | oh. i got wcf12 from amazon for about that much |
| 18:27:19 | wParam | it's a type 1 cf card |
| 18:27:25 | br33zy | wcf12 |
| 18:27:25 | br33zy | ok |
| 18:27:31 | | br33zy: i'm not following you... |
| 18:27:31 | br33zy | ibot wcf12 |
| 18:27:36 | br33zy | aaa fuck you |
| 18:27:41 | wParam | smaller, and seems to be newer, i don't know why it was cheaper |
| 18:27:59 | wParam | [shrug] probably another amazon.com glitch |
| 18:28:11 | wParam | they've been full of those lately |
| 18:31:45 | xml0 | "Some versions don't work with the Zaurus ROM less then 1.12 |
| 18:32:47 | xml0 | how do I find out the rom version? |
| 18:32:56 | xml0 | not in dmesg |
| 18:33:01 | wParam | you look under system info in qtopia |
| 18:33:09 | wParam | if you just bought it you should have 2.37 or 2.38 |
| 18:33:45 | xml0 | 2.12 |
| 18:34:10 | wParam | hmm. ok |
| 18:35:05 | xml0 | so that shouldn't be the problem then |
| 18:35:44 | xml0 | does the zaurus use /etc/modules.conf? it doesn't exist at the moment |
| 18:36:04 | br33zy | find | grep modules.conf |
| 18:36:05 | br33zy | :-D |
| 18:36:08 | wParam | hmm, not sure |
| 18:37:00 | scanline | is back (gone 00:11:55) |
| 18:46:55 | xml0 | bingo! |
| 18:47:00 | br33zy | mingo! |
| 18:47:02 | br33zy | mango! |
| 18:47:06 | br33zy | i need to buy some mangos |
| 19:01:39 | | I'm sorry, kergoth just exploded. Go away. |
| 19:01:39 | br33zy | ibot kergoth |
| 19:01:46 | | I'm sorry, kergoth just exploded. Go away. |
| 19:01:46 | br33zy | ibot kergoth |
| 19:01:51 | | br33zy: what? |
| 19:01:51 | br33zy | ibot brent |
| 19:01:56 | | kergoth: I forgot kergoth |
| 19:01:56 | kergoth | ibot forget kergoth |
| 19:01:57 | | OK, br33zy. |
| 19:01:57 | br33zy | ibot brent is brent |
| 19:02:04 | | OK, kergoth. |
| 19:02:04 | kergoth | ibot kergoth is at kergoth@handhelds.org |
| 19:02:07 | | ...but kergoth is at mailto:kergoth@handhelds.org... |
| 19:02:07 | br33zy | ibot kergoth is something |
| 19:02:10 | br33zy | so |
| 19:02:14 | br33zy | hmm |
| 19:02:24 | tux_mike | mmm toilet bowl mints |
| 19:03:44 | br33zy | lovely |
| 19:04:27 | tux_mike | wintergreen |
| 19:05:52 | br33zy | i hate spearmint |
| 19:05:55 | br33zy | i like peppermint |
| 19:06:14 | tux_mike | i love spearmint |
| 19:06:18 | tux_mike | peppermint is meh |
| 19:06:55 | tux_mike | if these mints were spearmint, they'd be gone by now |
| 19:09:30 | br33zy | heh |
| 19:40:53 | Sempervia | hey all |
| 19:41:05 | Sempervia | how do you get rid of backup/restore files on your zaurus? |
| 19:41:23 | kergoth | rm? |
| 19:41:27 | kergoth | filebrowser? advancedfm? |
| 19:41:36 | Sempervia | huh? |
| 19:41:55 | kergoth | use a file manager |
| 19:42:01 | kergoth | like the one preinstalled on your zaurus |
| 19:42:08 | kergoth | or rather, the one on the Zaurus' cd |
| 19:42:12 | kergoth | (for a 5500) |
| 19:42:20 | Sempervia | what if it's on an sd card? |
| 19:42:25 | Sempervia | yeah, it is |
| 19:42:34 | kergoth | okay.. |
| 19:42:37 | kergoth | so browse to /mnt/card |
| 19:42:40 | kergoth | remove the files |
| 19:42:58 | Sempervia | kae thanks |
| 19:50:36 | br33zy | what dev is my cf card? |
| 19:50:44 | kergoth | on the Z? |
| 19:50:47 | kergoth | /dev/hda1 |
| 19:51:39 | Sempervia | yeah, it's on the z |
| 19:51:45 | Sempervia | oh wait, nm sorry |
| 19:52:00 | Sempervia | it won't let me remove the files |
| 19:52:10 | Sempervia | I can't do it in file manager or terminal |
| 19:53:35 | br33zy | hey guys |
| 19:53:43 | br33zy | i formatted my 32 meg cf card |
| 19:53:49 | br33zy | to fat16 |
| 19:53:51 | br33zy | and now |
| 19:53:58 | br33zy | whenever i put like 3 megs on it |
| 19:54:01 | br33zy | it says its out of space |
| 19:54:04 | br33zy | any ideas? |
| 19:54:36 | kergoth | Sempervia: 'it wont let me' .. what does that mean? |
| 19:54:55 | Sempervia | it says "unable to remove" |
| 19:55:05 | kergoth | rm says that? |
| 19:55:08 | kergoth | then your card is hokey |
| 19:55:10 | kergoth | fsck it |
| 19:55:12 | kergoth | umount /mnt/card |
| 19:55:15 | kergoth | fsck /dev/mmcda1 |
| 19:55:38 | br33zy | kergoth, what about my card? |
| 19:55:39 | br33zy | :-D |
| 19:55:57 | Sempervia | kae thanks |
| 19:56:16 | Sempervia | sorry, I'm still abit of a newbie, what does fsck do? |
| 19:56:25 | br33zy | fsck |
| 19:56:26 | br33zy | is |
| 19:56:27 | br33zy | like |
| 19:56:29 | br33zy | f fix |
| 19:56:30 | br33zy | hehee |
| 19:56:56 | Sempervia | still has no idea |
| 19:57:00 | br33zy | kergoth, what dev is compactflash normally? |
| 19:57:12 | br33zy | Sempervia, it basically checks through a device for bad blocks & fixes it up |
| 19:57:18 | kergoth | Sempervia: file system check. its like scandisk in dos/windows |
| 19:57:19 | br33zy | and it can do otehr stuff |
| 19:57:26 | kergoth | br33zy: its /dev/hda1 |
| 19:57:30 | br33zy | but |
| 19:57:32 | br33zy | isnt that |
| 19:57:41 | br33zy | you sure that isnt my root? |
| 19:57:44 | Sempervia | kae thanks |
| 19:57:44 | kergoth | on the Z? |
| 19:57:50 | kergoth | the Z's root is a mtdblock device |
| 19:57:51 | br33zy | ya |
| 19:57:55 | Sempervia | and once I do that, I should be able to remove it? |
| 19:57:56 | br33zy | ok.. |
| 19:58:03 | Sempervia | and I have to umnount it to delete it yes? |
| 19:58:09 | kergoth | Sempervia: after umount, then fsck.. when thats done, eject the card, insert the card |
| 19:58:13 | kergoth | Sempervia: no |
| 19:58:16 | kergoth | Sempervia: you have to unmount to fsck. |
| 19:58:21 | kergoth | Sempervia: it has to be mounted to delete |
| 19:58:32 | kergoth | Sempervia: so you eject the card and reinsert after the fsck, and it will mount it automatically |
| 19:58:37 | kergoth | Sempervia: then you may be able to remove it |
| 19:58:58 | Sempervia | thanks |
| 19:59:44 | br33zy | kergoth |
| 19:59:46 | br33zy | what file system does |
| 19:59:51 | br33zy | openzaurus and stuff understand |
| 19:59:52 | br33zy | on cfs? |
| 20:00:01 | br33zy | CFs |
| 20:00:07 | kergoth | ext2, minix, vfat, few other supported filesystems |
| 20:00:12 | br33zy | so |
| 20:00:15 | br33zy | mkfs.ext2 |
| 20:00:15 | br33zy | or |
| 20:00:18 | kergoth | ext3 is supported but may cause more writes on the card due to journaling |
| 20:00:18 | br33zy | mkfs.minix? |
| 20:00:20 | kergoth | yeah |
| 20:00:24 | kergoth | mkfs.[filesystem] |
| 20:00:29 | br33zy | what do you think i should do |
| 20:00:30 | br33zy | for my cf |
| 20:00:37 | kergoth | brb, reboot |
| 20:05:35 | kergoth | re |
| 20:05:36 | scanline | is away: zzzzzz....... |
| 20:07:00 | xml0 | I'm following a howto on installing the usbd patch. it mentions the idvendor and idproduct setting, but not the class. what do I put? |
| 20:07:09 | kergoth | set class to 3 |
| 20:07:15 | kergoth | the howto should really have mentioned that |
| 20:07:20 | kergoth | also, disable CDCEther |
| 20:07:20 | xml0 | subclass? |
| 20:07:27 | kergoth | leave subclass as is, blank |
| 20:07:33 | xml0 | heh, wish I knew that earlier... |
| 20:07:43 | kergoth | hotplug wont work properly if you leave class blank |
| 20:08:18 | xml0 | thanks |
| 20:08:32 | kergoth | np |
| 20:08:53 | kergoth | xml0: just an fyi, someone is working on adding Z support to usbnet so we can finally ditch the unstable usbdnet |
| 20:09:01 | xml0 | I think I have to use an orinoco driver for this wcf11. only one that I could get to work on my laptop |
| 20:09:09 | treke|home | kergoth: usbnet isnt supported on windows though |
| 20:09:23 | kergoth | treke|home: nono, you dont get it |
| 20:09:30 | kergoth | usbnet is the *desktop* side driver |
| 20:09:33 | xml0 | that'll be good |
| 20:09:34 | kergoth | we're leaving hte Z side driver as is |
| 20:09:43 | kergoth | so the windows mci driver will still work |
| 20:09:52 | kergoth | we're just making usbnet in linux support the lineo usbd stuff |
| 20:10:13 | treke|home | kergoth: yummy. by all means send that info to CRL |
| 20:10:33 | treke|home | right now the only choice is to use bahias POS |
| 20:10:33 | kergoth | treke|home: hehe. think they'd accept a patch to add lineo's usbd stack to the hh.org kernel? :) |
| 20:10:34 | br33zy | wait a second |
| 20:10:37 | br33zy | is my cf card |
| 20:10:40 | br33zy | in /mnt/card |
| 20:10:41 | kergoth | treke|home: then you could use usb-ether -or- usbd |
| 20:10:43 | br33zy | or /mnt/cf? |
| 20:10:47 | kergoth | br33zy: /mnt/cf |
| 20:10:53 | kergoth | br33zy: /mnt/card is sd |
| 20:10:56 | br33zy | ok |
| 20:11:32 | treke|home | kergoth: well, considering usb was broken in windows do to an expired demo driver. They probably would :p |
| 20:11:39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:12:31 | br33zy | kergoth: mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 |
| 20:12:33 | br33zy | right? |
| 20:12:38 | kergoth | br33zy: right |
| 20:12:38 | br33zy | for formating my cf card into ext2? |
| 20:12:45 | chouimat | yay! Z(vnc)->desktop->firewall->vpn->firewall->desktop(VNC)->back to my desktop remote X |
| 20:12:46 | kergoth | br33zy: make sure you unmount it first |
| 20:13:00 | br33zy | uh oh |
| 20:13:08 | kergoth | umount /mnt/cf |
| 20:13:11 | kergoth | mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 |
| 20:13:19 | chouimat | kergoth: dam! it slow |
| 20:13:29 | kergoth | chouimat: well i wonder why! :P |
| 20:13:38 | br33zy | ok |
| 20:14:14 | br33zy | kegoth |
| 20:14:23 | br33zy | umount: /mnt/cf: invalid argument |
| 20:14:32 | kergoth | umount /dev/hda1 |
| 20:14:35 | kergoth | mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 |
| 20:14:46 | chouimat | kergoth: just need that to show the principle to a friend :) |
| 20:14:58 | br33zy | umount: /dev/hda1: invalid argument |
| 20:15:20 | kergoth | br33zy: umount /mnt.rom/cf? |
| 20:15:36 | kergoth | br33zy: (its the lineo symlink madness thats breaking htis. you have to umount the real path, not the symlink |
| 20:15:40 | kergoth | ) |
| 20:15:49 | br33zy | umount: /mnt.rom: No such file or directory |
| 20:15:56 | br33zy | :( |
| 20:16:02 | br33zy | can i just click eject |
| 20:16:05 | kergoth | no |
| 20:16:05 | br33zy | in the little icon |
| 20:16:13 | kergoth | if you eject it, its totally gone |
| 20:16:15 | br33zy | oh |
| 20:16:15 | kergoth | /dev/hda1 wont be accessible |
| 20:16:16 | br33zy | ok |
| 20:16:46 | br33zy | so |
| 20:16:47 | br33zy | what do i do? |
| 20:17:11 | kergoth | umount, but you need to find the actual mountpoint |
| 20:17:18 | kergoth | cat /etc/fstab|grep hda |
| 20:17:19 | br33zy | im looking in fstab |
| 20:17:20 | br33zy | yeah |
| 20:17:45 | br33zy | /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf auto noauto,user,owner 0 0 |
| 20:17:56 | kergoth`brb | brb |
| 20:18:24 | br33zy | hey Cam___ |
| 20:18:28 | Cam___ | hi there |
| 20:18:31 | br33zy | I remember you |
| 20:18:49 | Cam___ | :) how are you? |
| 20:18:59 | br33zy | good |
| 20:19:01 | br33zy | how about you? |
| 20:19:41 | Cam___ | not bad... not doing anything big at the moment - lots of little projects |
| 20:19:46 | br33zy | heh |
| 20:19:47 | br33zy | same |
| 20:19:52 | br33zy | i once again |
| 20:19:54 | br33zy | ported ruby |
| 20:19:55 | br33zy | to zaurus |
| 20:19:59 | br33zy | like i did for agenda |
| 20:20:00 | br33zy | :-D |
| 20:20:06 | br33zy | i just need the ipk up |
| 20:20:17 | Cam___ | do people still use ruby? is it miniruby for the Z or full-ruby? |
| 20:20:23 | br33zy | miniruby |
| 20:20:27 | br33zy | i dont think s |
| 20:20:27 | br33zy | o |
| 20:20:34 | br33zy | but i dont care.. it was fun to port in th first place |
| 20:20:35 | br33zy | :-D |
| 20:20:49 | br33zy | brb |
| 20:31:42 | br33zy | i need to talk to ben |
| 20:33:23 | br33zy | does anybody want to test an ipk for me? |
| 20:35:27 | xml0 | what's in it? |
| 20:35:30 | br33zy | ruby |
| 20:35:33 | xml0 | heh |
| 20:36:21 | xml0 | It's high on my todo list |
| 20:36:29 | br33zy | kergoth`brb: when i do a mkfs.ext2 /mnt/cf |
| 20:36:32 | br33zy | it gets stuck on |
| 20:36:49 | br33zy | Warning: could not read block 0: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read |
| 20:36:58 | br33zy | Writing inode tables: 2/644 |
| 20:37:02 | br33zy | and it just sits there on 2 |
| 20:37:04 | br33zy | any ideas? |
| 20:37:17 | br33zy | and umount isnt working same thing.. invalid argument.. |
| 20:37:43 | Bovine_ | er mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 |
| 20:38:01 | xml0 | fdisk /dev/hda ? |
| 20:38:10 | br33zy | hmm |
| 20:38:29 | br33zy | Bovine_.. thats what ive been doing |
| 20:38:31 | br33zy | and umount isnt working |
| 20:38:48 | Bovine_ | is it mounted? |
| 20:38:52 | br33zy | i dont know |
| 20:38:55 | Bovine_ | mount |
| 20:39:02 | br33zy | invalid argument |
| 20:39:06 | br33zy | mount /dev/hda1 |
| 20:39:10 | br33zy | invalid argument |
| 20:39:12 | Bovine_ | just mount on it's own |
| 20:39:14 | br33zy | mount /mnt/cf |
| 20:39:18 | br33zy | invalid argument |
| 20:39:20 | br33zy | ok |
| 20:39:22 | br33zy | hre |
| 20:39:25 | br33zy | let me reboot it |
| 20:39:35 | Bovine_ | um, it's not windows you know :D |
| 20:39:40 | br33zy | i know |
| 20:39:43 | br33zy | but it froze up |
| 20:39:46 | Bovine_ | ahh |
| 20:39:47 | br33zy | in mkfs.ext2 |
| 20:40:08 | br33zy | no its not mounted |
| 20:40:35 | br33zy | what do i do now? |
| 20:40:38 | br33zy | mkfs.ext 2? |
| 20:40:43 | br33zy | mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1? |
| 20:40:48 | br33zy | mkfs.ext2 /mnt/cf? |
| 20:41:53 | kergoth`brb | br33zy: mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1, with the card inserted and it unmounted |
| 20:42:07 | Bovine_ | so, type mount first to check if it's mounted |
| 20:42:10 | untorn | do classes have to be declared in header files? |
| 20:42:40 | kergoth`brb | untorn: if you need the class declaration in whatever bit of code will use that class, then yes |
| 20:43:11 | br33zy | kergoth, its not mounted |
| 20:43:20 | br33zy | and it freezes on mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 |
| 20:43:32 | kergoth | ? |
| 20:43:39 | br33zy | it goes |
| 20:43:44 | Bovine_ | put it in the bin, sounds like it's buggered :) |
| 20:43:49 | br33zy | Writing inode tables: 2/644 |
| 20:43:49 | kergoth | the card has to be available |
| 20:43:52 | kergoth | run cardctl ident |
| 20:43:55 | br33zy | err |
| 20:43:57 | br33zy | gotta reboot |
| 20:44:08 | br33zy | im doing this through ssh |
| 20:44:09 | Bovine_ | can't you ^C out of it? |
| 20:44:10 | br33zy | is that fine? |
| 20:44:17 | br33zy | Bovine_, nope :( |
| 20:44:19 | Bovine_ | :/ |
| 20:45:35 | br33zy | kergoth, is doing it through ssh fine? |
| 20:45:42 | Bovine_ | yes |
| 20:45:45 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:45:47 | br33zy | ok |
| 20:45:53 | br33zy | cardctl.. |
| 20:46:24 | br33zy | cardctl satus: |
| 20:46:26 | br33zy | Socket 0: |
| 20:46:32 | br33zy | 3.3v 16-bit PC Card |
| 20:46:42 | br33zy | function 0: [ready], [bad dead], [bad low] |
| 20:46:44 | br33zy | Socket 1: |
| 20:46:45 | br33zy | no card |
| 20:46:50 | br33zy | # |
| 20:46:51 | br33zy | thats it |
| 20:47:07 | kergoth | okay, thats fine |
| 20:47:12 | kergoth | run mount |
| 20:47:13 | br33zy | now whwat |
| 20:47:14 | kergoth | to make sure its not mounted |
| 20:47:15 | br33zy | ik |
| 20:47:23 | br33zy | nope |
| 20:47:24 | kergoth | then mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1 |
| 20:47:25 | br33zy | not mounted |
| 20:47:28 | br33zy | i dont see an hda |
| 20:47:32 | kergoth | good |
| 20:47:36 | br33zy | how about vfat? |
| 20:47:40 | br33zy | can i do vfat insted? |
| 20:47:56 | br33zy | mkfs.vfat |
| 20:48:00 | br33zy | is that fine? |
| 20:48:07 | Bovine_ | what does cardtl ident show you? |
| 20:48:22 | br33zy | it shws me |
| 20:48:23 | Bovine_ | cardctl ident |
| 20:48:25 | br33zy | Socket 0: |
| 20:48:44 | br33zy | product info: "SunDisk, "SDP", "5/3 0.6" |
| 20:48:53 | br33zy | manfid: 0x0045, 0x0401 |
| 20:48:58 | br33zy | function 4 (fixed disk) |
| 20:49:00 | br33zy | Socket 1: |
| 20:49:02 | kergoth | yes you can do vfat if you want |
| 20:49:04 | br33zy | no product info available |
| 20:49:07 | kergoth | whatever filesystem you want |
| 20:49:17 | br33zy | okiedokie |
| 20:49:33 | br33zy | mkfs.vfat: Attempting to create a too large fiel system |
| 20:49:38 | br33zy | file* |
| 20:49:51 | br33zy | i'll try minix |
| 20:50:22 | br33zy | mkfs.minix: unable to clear boot sector |
| 20:50:31 | br33zy | hmm |
| 20:52:36 | kergoth | your partition is screwe |
| 20:52:37 | kergoth | d |
| 20:52:39 | kergoth | fdisk it |
| 20:52:42 | br33zy | ok |
| 20:52:56 | br33zy | dont have fdisk |
| 20:53:00 | br33zy | download it? |
| 20:53:05 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:53:11 | br33zy | gotchya |
| 20:56:16 | br33zy | package manager is soo buggy |
| 20:57:24 | treke|home | its kinda funny. You'd think a package manager would be easy, ipkg does the work :) |
| 20:57:46 | br33zy | heh |
| 20:58:33 | treke|home | does know all the extra stuff it does on the symlinks and so on |
| 21:00:04 | kergoth | br33zy: what package manager? which rom? |
| 21:00:13 | br33zy | "Package Manager" |
| 21:00:22 | br33zy | openzaurus |
| 21:00:38 | treke|home | there have been a lot of package managers :) |
| 21:00:44 | kergoth | br33zy: thats oipkg |
| 21:00:51 | br33zy | o |
| 21:00:56 | br33zy | hehe |
| 21:00:58 | kergoth | br33zy: try installing aqpkg from the oz feed |
| 21:01:01 | br33zy | whats thebest? |
| 21:01:03 | br33zy | ok |
| 21:01:14 | treke|home | personally liked the original qipkg the best |
| 21:01:33 | br33zy | first fdisk |
| 21:01:35 | treke|home | really buggy, but easy to figure out |
| 21:01:58 | br33zy | kergoth |
| 21:02:01 | br33zy | fdisk /dev/hda1 |
| 21:02:06 | br33zy | Unable to read /dev/hda1 |
| 21:02:16 | treke|home | fdisk /dev/hda |
| 21:02:29 | br33zy | that worked |
| 21:02:49 | br33zy | so |
| 21:02:52 | br33zy | delete /dev/hda1 |
| 21:02:53 | br33zy | ? |
| 21:02:56 | br33zy | and make another |
| 21:02:58 | br33zy | /dev/hda1 |
| 21:02:58 | br33zy | ? |
| 21:02:59 | treke|home | no |
| 21:03:17 | treke|home | you dont run fdisk on a partition. You run it on the disk |
| 21:03:23 | br33zy | ok |
| 21:03:25 | br33zy | well |
| 21:03:27 | br33zy | i need to fix |
| 21:03:30 | br33zy | /dev/hda1 |
| 21:03:37 | br33zy | so do i delete that partition |
| 21:03:40 | br33zy | and recreate it? |
| 21:04:00 | tux_mike | from doing an fdisk /dev/hda1? |
| 21:04:05 | br33zy | no |
| 21:04:08 | br33zy | fdisk /dev/hda |
| 21:04:17 | br33zy | kergoth says /dev/hda1 is screwed |
| 21:04:20 | br33zy | and i should use fdisk to fix it |
| 21:04:23 | br33zy | what do i do |
| 21:04:33 | xml0 | ok, usb0 is up and running and pingable. do I need to put ssh on via a CF card, or can I easily do it over usb? |
| 21:04:36 | br33zy | delete the firrt partitiona and then recreate it? |
| 21:04:45 | tux_mike | yes |
| 21:04:50 | br33zy | ok |
| 21:05:02 | br33zy | ok |
| 21:05:04 | br33zy | new partition |
| 21:05:07 | tux_mike | then you make a new fs on it |
| 21:05:08 | br33zy | extended or primary? |
| 21:05:13 | tux_mike | primary |
| 21:05:15 | br33zy | k |
| 21:05:24 | br33zy | first cylinder? |
| 21:05:25 | br33zy | 1? |
| 21:05:30 | br33zy | (thats the default) |
| 21:05:43 | tux_mike | yes, just use the defaults |
| 21:05:59 | br33zy | its "Linux" file system |
| 21:06:01 | br33zy | is that fine? |
| 21:06:20 | tux_mike | what file system do you want it to be? |
| 21:06:21 | br33zy | Start 1, End 20, Blocks 1264, Id 83, ys tem Linux |
| 21:06:27 | br33zy | System* |
| 21:06:28 | br33zy | i dont know |
| 21:06:31 | br33zy | vfat |
| 21:06:54 | tux_mike | keep in mind, vfat doesn't store all apps properly |
| 21:06:58 | br33zy | ok |
| 21:07:00 | br33zy | ext2 |
| 21:07:12 | tux_mike | but, you can't flash from ext2 |
| 21:07:21 | br33zy | this is my cf card |
| 21:07:22 | br33zy | so |
| 21:07:24 | br33zy | what do i do |
| 21:07:26 | br33zy | minix then? |
| 21:07:32 | tux_mike | no. |
| 21:07:43 | br33zy | ext 3? |
| 21:07:48 | br33zy | which one can i put data on to |
| 21:07:51 | br33zy | and also flash from |
| 21:07:58 | tux_mike | you have to decide which is more important, all programs working (ext2) or ability to flash from it (vfat) |
| 21:08:05 | n72366178 | Hey is www.myzaurus.com down? |
| 21:08:17 | br33zy | n72366178, what a wierd nick name |
| 21:08:19 | n72366178 | keeps refusing my connection |
| 21:08:23 | br33zy | n72366178, i dont know, ping it |
| 21:09:34 | n72366178 | Can someone else try connecting please |
| 21:09:37 | br33zy | yup its down |
| 21:09:44 | n72366178 | ok thanks! |
| 21:09:56 | br33zy | np |
| 21:10:01 | n72366178 | it has been down since sometime yesterday |
| 21:13:44 | mark | n72366178, br33zy: utter pain |
| 21:13:54 | br33zy | huh |
| 21:14:16 | mark | myzaurus |
| 21:33:51 | kergoth | hey |
| 21:34:31 | Twiun | hoy! |
| 21:34:45 | kergoth | disabled devfs, my box is happier with me now |
| 21:42:13 | Fatbum | saaatan |
| 22:46:58 | br33zy | moo |
| 22:53:06 | untorn | COW! |
| 22:59:46 | Cam___ | anyone fixed the pointer-alzheimers problem yet? |
| 23:00:05 | treke|home | pointer alzheimers? |
| 23:00:14 | Cam___ | it shakes uncontrollably |
| 23:00:27 | treke|home | oh that kind of pointer |
| 23:02:23 | oGMo | or the kind where you do foo *bar; and it keeps forgetting what it was pointing at? |
| 23:03:13 | untorn | could anyone take a look at this and tell me how to http://web.tampabay.rr.com/tharin/prob.htmlfix it? |
| 23:04:36 | untorn | *how to fix it http://web.tampabay.rr.com/tharin/prob.html |
| 23:05:28 | Cam___ | no the stylus/cursor not a memory pointer :) |
| 23:05:54 | treke|home | untorn: what is not working? |
| 23:05:58 | Rixster | what happens with the code in prob.html? |
| 23:06:31 | untorn | main.cpp: In function `int main(int, char **)': |
| 23:06:31 | untorn | main.cpp:28: no matching function for call to `QObject::connect (QPushButton *, const char[11], Foo (*)(), const char[10])' |
| 23:06:51 | treke|home | oGMo: are you running it through moc? |
| 23:07:02 | treke|home | untorn: are you running it through moc? |
| 23:07:50 | Rixster | FWIW : I've written a nasty kludge to prevent the double-reboot = crash problem |
| 23:10:06 | Rixster | It's at http://rdgreen.co.uk/zaurus/ or via the ZSI when it gets next updated |
| 23:12:29 | untorn | treke|home: I see moc in the error return msg yes |
| 23:16:10 | br33zy | can anybody here test an ipk for me? |
| 23:17:45 | wParam | is that what causes the reboot thing? not suspending before rebooting? |
| 23:17:57 | Rixster | wParam: yep |
| 23:18:21 | wParam | aah, cool. I've been wondering what made that happen |
| 23:18:21 | kergoth | Rixster: the method we discussed previously? |
| 23:18:44 | Rixster | kergoth: yep, but they are very noddy scripts |
| 23:18:55 | kergoth | Cam___: the in kernel touchscreen driver needs better jitter correction. its on my todo for OZ, i dont know what sharp plans to do about it |
| 23:18:55 | Rixster | kergoth: I should really write them in C |
| 23:19:06 | kergoth | geh |
| 23:19:08 | kergoth | kernel switch! |
| 23:20:26 | untorn | treke|home: thanks I got it fixe.d |
| 23:20:35 | treke|home | untorn: what was the prob? |
| 23:21:45 | br33zy | nobody wants to test a ruby ipk??! |
| 23:22:47 | wParam | would anyone happen to know what #define's gcc has for me to test whether i'm compiling on ARM or x86? is it _ARM or _X86 or something similar? |
| 23:23:11 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: mnnn. ruby..... |
| 23:23:19 | treke|home | br33zy: my guess is people who wanted ruby, probably already got it from familiar |
| 23:23:20 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: any problems cross compiling it? |
| 23:23:31 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to add it to the buildroot sometime |
| 23:23:39 | TheMasterMind1 | along with all the other crap i have to add |
| 23:23:48 | Rixster | really must offer kergoth a faster disk |
| 23:24:31 | Rixster | kergoth: took your time ? |
| 23:24:37 | treke|home | darn kergoth is back |
| 23:24:38 | Cam___ | kergoth: thanks |
| 23:24:45 | treke|home | now I have to be nice to br33zy again |
| 23:24:48 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:25:01 | kergoth | for my kernel switch? it takes a bit to scan the 4 scsi channels on boot |
| 23:25:06 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:27:28 | treke|home | kergoth: maybe you ought to send me all the scsi devices and I'll send you an ide hard drive that boots faster |
| 23:27:59 | br33zy | TheMasterMind1, nope |
| 23:28:04 | br33zy | i have the ipk |
| 23:28:13 | br33zy | i need someone to test it |
| 23:28:16 | br33zy | my cf card isnt working |
| 23:28:20 | br33zy | and ive got like no space on root |
| 23:28:27 | kergoth | use your ramdisk |
| 23:28:39 | br33zy | is that sdram? |
| 23:28:40 | br33zy | stdram* |
| 23:28:41 | br33zy | ? |
| 23:28:49 | kergoth | mtdram |
| 23:28:56 | br33zy | yeah |
| 23:28:57 | br33zy | thats it |
| 23:29:01 | br33zy | doesnt it get deleted though |
| 23:29:02 | br33zy | off there? |
| 23:29:14 | br33zy | after you reboot or something? |
| 23:29:15 | kergoth | huh? |
| 23:29:16 | kergoth | no |
| 23:29:19 | kergoth | i have no idea what youre talkinga bout |
| 23:29:21 | br33zy | oh |
| 23:29:24 | kergoth | mtdram is only lost on full reset |
| 23:29:26 | kergoth | same as sharp rom |
| 23:29:30 | br33zy | oh |
| 23:29:31 | br33zy | ok |
| 23:29:32 | kergoth | sharp's /home = mtdram |
| 23:30:21 | br33zy | kergoth |
| 23:30:27 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:30:28 | br33zy | do you have a wireless card? |
| 23:30:32 | kergoth | yeah, dlink |
| 23:30:35 | br33zy | k |
| 23:30:37 | kergoth | one of the huge ass cards |
| 23:30:38 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:30:45 | br33zy | im thinking of getting a wcf12 |
| 23:30:51 | mark | bigger than wcf11? |
| 23:30:57 | br33zy | any bad tings about it except it blocks the stylus port? |
| 23:31:09 | Rixster | it blocks the headphone port as well ! |
| 23:31:11 | kergoth | wcf12 iirc is smaller than the wcf11 |
| 23:31:14 | br33zy | geg |
| 23:31:20 | br33zy | hehe* |
| 23:31:31 | br33zy | does wcf12 successfully work on the zaurus? |
| 23:31:42 | kergoth | should work fine |
| 23:31:56 | br33zy | you sure? |
| 23:32:02 | br33zy | do you know anybody who trie dit? |
| 23:32:13 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1 did iirc |
| 23:32:33 | br33zy | iirc? |
| 23:32:45 | kergoth | if i recall correctly |
| 23:32:53 | br33zy | ko |
| 23:32:55 | br33zy | ok |
| 23:33:53 | wParam | you mean the linksys wcf12? I've got one of those |
| 23:34:03 | br33zy | kergoth |
| 23:34:08 | br33zy | is it ok to arm-linux-strip programs |
| 23:34:11 | br33zy | for sharp zaurus? |
| 23:34:12 | wParam | works fine, but the sharp rom 2.38 doesn't have it's definition in the pcmcia config, you have to edit it a bit |
| 23:34:21 | kergoth | br33zy: i arm-linux-strip every file that goes into OZ |
| 23:34:21 | br33zy | or should we leave the all the debug stuff in it? |
| 23:34:27 | br33zy | got ya |
| 23:34:35 | kergoth | the debug stuff is usually a waste of space |
| 23:34:44 | kergoth | just keep a debug one around to send people if you need to use gdb to debug |
| 23:34:45 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:36:47 | br33zy | heh |
| 23:36:49 | br33zy | moo |
| 23:39:19 | mickeyl | is leaving for a while... |
| 23:40:02 | Rixster | is away: I'm busy |
| 23:40:12 | Rixster | is back (gone 00:00:09) |
| 23:40:18 | Rixster | is away: Snoozing |
| 23:44:36 | TheMasterMind1 | i haven't tried the wcf12, but it will work fine |
| 23:44:41 | br33zy | ok |
| 23:44:52 | TheMasterMind1 | its a nice cheap card |
| 23:45:04 | br33zy | TheMasterMind1, should i post my ruby ipk on zauruszone? |
| 23:45:10 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, sure |
| 23:45:15 | br33zy | k |
| 23:47:53 | benmeyer | Offtopic: Do you think that the blue boarder for images is a good way to signify that the image has a comment on this webpage: ?http://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/gallery/dir.php?gallery=1999/WebCam/ |
| 23:48:05 | kergoth | benmeyer: ontopic: networksetup hates me. ;) |
| 23:48:10 | benmeyer | bummer |
| 23:48:22 | kergoth | still segfaults on exit if you entered wlansetup and exited it |
| 23:48:28 | benmeyer | it is the weekend, eat icecream! |
| 23:48:34 | kergoth | segfaults in qt/e within destroyMapper() |
| 23:48:36 | kergoth | hah, true that |
| 23:48:38 | kergoth | its sunday |
| 23:48:42 | kergoth | sundays suck |
| 23:48:44 | kergoth | cause tomorrow is monday |
| 23:48:48 | benmeyer | ok, well I will look at it tomarrow |
| 23:48:58 | kergoth | k :) |
| 23:49:04 | benmeyer | What about the blue photos? |
| 23:49:16 | kergoth | is in console atm, no fancy graphical browsing |
| 23:49:28 | treke|home | kergoth: does that make saturday suck because the next day is sunday? |
| 23:49:40 | kergoth | treke|home: yes! |
| 23:49:43 | kergoth | and so on and so forth |
| 23:49:44 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:50:04 | benmeyer | damm so Monday sucks because... |
| 23:50:19 | treke|home | benmeyer: because they lead to another monday |
| 23:50:44 | mark | benmeyer: coz youve gotta sort out myzaurus.com? |
| 23:50:51 | benmeyer | not me |
| 23:50:54 | mark | hehe |
| 23:50:59 | benmeyer | I simply rip them to killefiz |
| 23:51:06 | benmeyer | mark: are you in X11? |
| 23:51:19 | mark | benmeyer: on my desktop.. yes |
| 23:51:25 | mark | benmeyer: someone knows/is workign on it? |
| 23:51:26 | kergoth | treke|home: lol |
| 23:51:33 | benmeyer | can you tell me if that blue images are good/bad? |
| 23:51:37 | benmeyer | Offtopic: Do you think that the blue boarder for images is a good way to signify that the image has a comment on this webpage: ?http://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/gallery/dir.php?gallery=1999/WebCam/ |
| 23:51:42 | benmeyer | need another opinion |
| 23:52:10 | mark | benmeyer: yeh, looks good |
| 23:52:38 | benmeyer | Couldnt' really think of a good way to say "hey this photo has a comment" and that is what I came up with |
| 23:52:54 | kergoth | benmeyer: does opie-backup handle sharp rom backup files as well? |
| 23:52:59 | kergoth | benmeyer: curious for transitioning users |
| 23:53:01 | benmeyer | nope |
| 23:53:11 | benmeyer | I think I tar.gz |
| 23:53:20 | benmeyer | z just tar's it |
| 23:53:23 | benmeyer | stupid yes |
| 23:53:28 | kergoth | aha |
| 23:53:36 | kergoth | smacks forehead |
| 23:53:38 | kergoth | god thats lame |
| 23:53:39 | kergoth | well |
| 23:53:42 | kergoth | hrm |
| 23:53:49 | kergoth | we should have it support sharp rom format files as well |
| 23:53:52 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:53:56 | benmeyer | I don't know about that |
| 23:54:06 | benmeyer | sense there backup is just a dump of everything |
| 23:54:09 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:54:09 | benmeyer | sync would be better |
| 23:54:16 | kergoth | yeah, suppose you're right |
| 23:54:17 | kergoth | oh well |
| 23:54:24 | kergoth | i'll include opie-backup in the oz rom anyway |
| 23:54:26 | kergoth | people will want it |
| 23:54:30 | benmeyer | ok |
| 23:54:39 | kergoth | one minor bug or two, but i'll fix those |
| 23:54:44 | treke|home | now dont lose the source for this one |
| 23:54:59 | kergoth | treke|home: he cant, its in opie cvs |
| 23:55:01 | kergoth | treke|home: :) |
| 23:57:59 | TheMasterMind1 | lkj |
| 23:58:04 | kergoth | jkl |
| 23:58:06 | TheMasterMind1 | benmeyer: ! |
| 23:58:11 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:58:17 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i already pestered him, he'll look into it tomorrow |
| 23:58:19 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: :) |
| 23:58:49 | TheMasterMind1 | yea i just scrolled up |
| 23:58:49 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:58:53 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good |