| 00:11:22 | Saurian | hmmms. The Z likes my digital cameras CF card. Too bad the pics are too big. }:) |
| 00:13:06 | badalex | Sugar: use mooview or zimage |
| 00:14:44 | prpplague | Saurian: you nic sounds familiar, is that from a book? |
| 00:14:57 | Saurian | You're thinking of Sauron. |
| 00:16:31 | badalex | er Sugar i mean Saurian LOL |
| 00:16:39 | badalex | er accidentaly hit caps |
| 00:16:39 | badalex | sorry |
| 00:18:18 | Saurian | Agh, any way to trade letters in the scrabble game? }:) |
| 00:18:55 | br33zy | hey guys |
| 00:19:01 | br33zy | im having troubles connecting my zaurus |
| 00:19:02 | br33zy | see |
| 00:19:12 | br33zy | i have compiled 2.4.18 with the patch |
| 00:19:29 | br33zy | and i have usbdnet and stuff |
| 00:19:36 | br33zy | and its running in lsmod |
| 00:19:42 | br33zy | and whenever i click the sync button |
| 00:19:46 | br33zy | i get a usb0 |
| 00:19:50 | br33zy | in ifconfig -a |
| 00:20:04 | br33zy | but |
| 00:20:13 | br33zy | ifconfig usb0 192.168.129.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 up |
| 00:20:13 | br33zy | route add -host 192.168.129.201 usb0 |
| 00:20:21 | br33zy | it adds the ip address and stuff |
| 00:20:24 | br33zy | but whenever i ping it |
| 00:20:29 | br33zy | it takes like 10 seconds |
| 00:20:31 | br33zy | for it to reply |
| 00:20:37 | br33zy | and i usually get 85% packet loss |
| 00:20:43 | br33zy | and I can't telnet to it either.. |
| 00:20:48 | br33zy | any ideas? |
| 00:21:50 | br33zy | is there anything im supposed to do on the zaurus to get a more stable connection? |
| 00:22:03 | br33zy | btw, how do i add files to the zaurus through my linux comp? |
| 00:22:09 | br33zy | rsync or something? |
| 00:23:45 | br33zy | treke? |
| 00:23:48 | br33zy | anybody? |
| 00:24:12 | badalex | is the usb cable secure? |
| 00:24:19 | badalex | just a thought... |
| 00:24:19 | br33zy | yeah |
| 00:24:21 | br33zy | i think |
| 00:24:35 | br33zy | yup |
| 00:25:00 | badalex | thats weird... |
| 00:25:08 | br33zy | is there anything i have to do on the zaurus? |
| 00:26:51 | br33zy | hey BZFlag |
| 00:26:52 | br33zy | any ideas? |
| 00:27:30 | BZFlag | has lots of ideas |
| 00:27:34 | br33zy | ok |
| 00:27:39 | br33zy | anyway you can help me? |
| 00:27:43 | br33zy | what am i doing wrong? |
| 00:27:53 | br33zy | im running 2.4.18 compiled with the usbdnet patch |
| 00:27:57 | br33zy | and usbdnet shows up in lsmod |
| 00:28:10 | br33zy | and wheneveri click the sync button or put my zaurus in the cradle, usb0 pops up |
| 00:28:11 | treke|wherever | has lots of ideas also |
| 00:28:21 | BZFlag | latest rom on the Z? |
| 00:28:21 | br33zy | can you help me then? |
| 00:28:25 | br33zy | its 0.0d |
| 00:28:29 | BZFlag | the protocol changed slightly. |
| 00:28:30 | br33zy | i need to update |
| 00:28:30 | treke|wherever | but most of them involve ibot, some whipped cream, and a rubber chicken |
| 00:28:40 | badalex | lol |
| 00:28:43 | br33zy | BZFlag, how do i get the rom on there? |
| 00:28:49 | | BZFlag: excuse me? |
| 00:28:49 | BZFlag | ibot: insule treke|wherever |
| 00:28:54 | | treke|wherever is nothing but an hedge-born mound of motley-mind bug spit. |
| 00:28:54 | BZFlag | ibot: insult treke|wherever |
| 00:29:06 | treke|wherever | yah know, thats fairly accurate |
| 00:29:09 | br33zy | how can i get the rom on the cf card? |
| 00:29:12 | treke|wherever | although I'm not that pleasant |
| 00:29:16 | BZFlag | br33zy: use the CF update method? |
| 00:29:23 | br33zy | how do i do that? |
| 00:29:24 | br33zy | i mean |
| 00:29:26 | br33zy | well |
| 00:29:28 | br33zy | lets make this easier |
| 00:29:35 | br33zy | i have a 32 meg cf card |
| 00:29:36 | BZFlag | or borrow someones M$ box for a while? |
| 00:29:43 | br33zy | i have a sancard reader thingy |
| 00:29:48 | BZFlag | oops... dinner. |
| 00:29:56 | BZFlag | back in 1/2 hour. |
| 00:29:58 | br33zy | BZFlag, where do i get the openzaurus rom? |
| 00:30:00 | br33zy | thats what i want |
| 00:30:09 | TDT | man...I still can't get that qtopia software to work in Linux totally. |
| 00:30:26 | | openzaurus is an alternative linux distribution for the Sharp SL-5x00[dg] PDA. See http://openzaurus.sf.net/. Also ask me about oz faq, oz feed, oz bk, oz release, or oz prerelease. And dont forget to /join #openzaurus. |
| 00:30:26 | br33zy | ibot openzaurus |
| 00:31:00 | | somebody said oz release was 2.9.5.5, 2.9.7 coming soon |
| 00:31:00 | badalex | ibot oz release |
| 00:31:10 | | oz prerelease is http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/official/unstable/20021015_1642/ |
| 00:31:10 | badalex | ibot oz prerelease |
| 00:32:16 | br33zy | ok thanks |
| 00:32:58 | TDT | is "openzaurus" better than the stock version? |
| 00:32:59 | TDT | brb |
| 00:34:32 | br33zy | hey guys |
| 00:34:39 | br33zy | where is the file manager |
| 00:34:40 | br33zy | on a 5000d? |
| 00:34:46 | br33zy | its not in applications.. |
| 00:35:09 | badalex | have to install it |
| 00:35:16 | badalex | seperate |
| 00:35:33 | badalex|dinner | is away: dinner |
| 00:41:07 | BigBoss | yea, they didn't include it |
| 00:43:31 | br33zy | heh |
| 00:43:32 | br33zy | oh well |
| 00:44:22 | BigBoss | have you looked at tkcExplorer? |
| 00:44:44 | br33zy | where is the full reset button |
| 00:45:21 | br33zy | i cant find it |
| 00:45:44 | nitup | it's behind the battery door |
| 00:46:02 | br33zy | i know |
| 00:46:05 | br33zy | but where |
| 00:46:11 | br33zy | is it this little black thingy |
| 00:46:15 | br33zy | that has space around it |
| 00:46:21 | BigBoss | at the bottom of the battery |
| 00:47:05 | | Neo|Work was last seen on #zaurus 5 hours, 8 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: urhm. stupid xchage using the incorrect input window [Fri Oct 18 13:38:18 2002] |
| 00:47:05 | BigBoss | ibot seen Neo|Work |
| 00:47:11 | | NeoTron was last seen on #zaurus 6 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying: it's running Linux, it is faster, it's better [Sat Oct 12 13:16:06 2002] |
| 00:47:11 | BigBoss | ibot seen NeoTron |
| 00:47:29 | Neo|Work | BigBoss: yes? |
| 00:47:59 | br33zy | hey you guys |
| 00:48:13 | br33zy | when they mean [C] and [D] |
| 00:48:17 | br33zy | does that mean the keyboard keys? |
| 00:48:17 | BigBoss | yes br33zy? |
| 00:48:20 | BigBoss | yes |
| 00:48:30 | br33zy | what? |
| 00:48:31 | br33zy | but there tiny |
| 00:48:38 | nitup | yeah, sharp went the extra mile to make sure we didn't 'accidently' flash the Z |
| 00:48:43 | BigBoss | yep, it's a real bitch to do it |
| 00:48:50 | BigBoss | I feel like a yoga master doing it |
| 00:48:55 | nitup | haha |
| 00:49:33 | Neo|Work | deevee: bye bye |
| 00:50:46 | br33zy | whoops |
| 00:50:52 | br33zy | what if i pushed the buttons |
| 00:50:57 | br33zy | when my cf card wasnt in? |
| 00:52:36 | BigBoss | nothing is going to happen |
| 00:53:19 | br33zy | wahooo! |
| 00:53:24 | br33zy | green and orange leds are on |
| 00:53:30 | br33zy | i see nothing on the screen |
| 00:53:33 | br33zy | im gonna wait 3 minutes |
| 00:53:49 | Saurian | Anyone suggest a good terminal to install for getting shell? |
| 00:54:04 | BigBoss | yea, wait for a bit now |
| 00:58:13 | br33zy | my |
| 00:58:14 | br33zy | zaurus |
| 00:58:15 | br33zy | is |
| 00:58:17 | br33zy | flashing! |
| 00:58:18 | br33zy | brb |
| 01:01:31 | TDT | back. I like my zaurus, but I wish it worked with linux a bit better |
| 01:01:33 | br33zy | awesome! |
| 01:01:40 | br33zy | i have openzaurus booting! |
| 01:02:16 | br33zy | hmm |
| 01:02:22 | br33zy | its taking a while on |
| 01:02:33 | br33zy | "Configuring all packages installed to root" |
| 01:02:36 | br33zy | is that normal? |
| 01:02:40 | br33zy | i see a bunch |
| 01:02:41 | br33zy | nevermind |
| 01:02:43 | br33zy | it stopped |
| 01:02:49 | SmBJ | heh |
| 01:02:52 | SmBJ | yeah, that's normal |
| 01:03:17 | TDT | is openzaurus worth installing? |
| 01:03:46 | SmBJ | tdt: yes |
| 01:04:01 | TDT | SmBJ: What does it do different than what is already provided? |
| 01:04:16 | SmBJ | id suggest joining #openzaurus, they'll do a better job than me |
| 01:05:51 | TDT | SmBJ: there, asking now |
| 01:06:27 | SmBJ | ah |
| 01:06:30 | SmBJ | you just got your zaurus |
| 01:06:39 | SmBJ | well |
| 01:06:43 | SmBJ | are you a linux user? |
| 01:06:48 | SmBJ | because using OZ requires more work |
| 01:06:53 | SmBJ | as it's still being developed |
| 01:07:00 | TDT | I use linux all the time. |
| 01:07:05 | SmBJ | okay. |
| 01:07:08 | TDT | I have experience with RH, and Debian mostly |
| 01:07:11 | SmBJ | alright |
| 01:07:14 | SmBJ | well |
| 01:07:16 | TDT | Been using linux for years now...that's why I got it :) |
| 01:07:20 | SmBJ | ah :P |
| 01:07:22 | br33zy | awesome! |
| 01:07:25 | br33zy | it works baby! |
| 01:07:27 | SmBJ | haha |
| 01:07:35 | SmBJ | br33zy: what build are you using? |
| 01:07:42 | SmBJ | TDT: OZ uses opie |
| 01:07:44 | SmBJ | instead of qtopia |
| 01:07:48 | SmBJ | which is pretty :p |
| 01:08:06 | br33zy | me? |
| 01:08:07 | br33zy | huh |
| 01:08:09 | TDT | Is the gui a bit better designed than what's already there? I have the current gui |
| 01:08:11 | br33zy | open zauus |
| 01:08:15 | br33zy | 5000d |
| 01:08:17 | br33zy | and its |
| 01:08:17 | TDT | It's too unorganized...drives me nuts |
| 01:08:17 | treke|wherever | TDT: a b<Jag> http://www.cs.odu.edu/~olson/kara-mike.jpg |
| 01:08:18 | br33zy | uh |
| 01:08:18 | treke|wherever | it |
| 01:08:24 | treke|wherever | TDT: a bit |
| 01:08:27 | br33zy | latest initrd |
| 01:08:27 | treke|wherever | TDT: <Jag> http://www.cs.odu.edu/~olson/kara-mike.jpg |
| 01:08:30 | br33zy | thats stable |
| 01:08:32 | treke|wherever | @(<Jag> http://www.cs.odu.edu/~olson/kara-mike.jpg |
| 01:08:33 | treke|wherever | #@(@ |
| 01:08:38 | SmBJ | br33zy: not the prerelease? |
| 01:08:43 | treke|wherever | god that mouse sucks |
| 01:08:50 | br33zy | i dont think so |
| 01:08:54 | treke|wherever | TDT: its a bit better. Not that different though |
| 01:08:56 | SmBJ | br33zy: bah! bad! |
| 01:08:58 | br33zy | SmBJ,w hats so special about the prerelease? |
| 01:09:19 | TDT | treke|home: 404 file not found error on that site |
| 01:09:22 | SmBJ | what you're using is very old |
| 01:09:35 | treke|wherever | TDT: fine by me. I wasnt trying to paste it |
| 01:10:49 | TDT | treke| ah ok |
| 01:10:55 | TDT | ....didn't complete that time |
| 01:10:56 | TDT | dang it |
| 01:11:15 | treke|wherever | TDT: its a crappy ms mouse that seems to bind all of its buttens to cut and paste in putty :) |
| 01:11:28 | TDT | lol |
| 01:11:48 | SmBJ | hah |
| 01:21:42 | badalex|dinner | is back (gone 00:46:08) |
| 01:25:35 | chouimat | *belch* |
| 01:27:34 | | OVER the underpass! UNDER the overpass! Around the FUTURE and BEYOND REPAIR!! |
| 01:27:34 | chouimat | ibot be zippy |
| 01:44:46 | scanline | is back (gone 01:54:58) |
| 01:54:23 | bipolar | has anyone here built korelib from source? |
| 02:09:03 | scanline | is away: Dave... my mind is going... |
| 02:10:40 | br33zy | im having a problem |
| 02:10:42 | br33zy | i used to get usb0 |
| 02:10:45 | br33zy | but now i dont |
| 02:10:48 | br33zy | no matter what i do |
| 02:10:51 | br33zy | rmmod usbdnet |
| 02:10:54 | br33zy | insmod usbdnet |
| 02:10:58 | br33zy | rmmod usb-uhci |
| 02:11:01 | br33zy | insmod usb-uhci |
| 02:11:06 | br33zy | take it out of the cradel |
| 02:11:09 | br33zy | put it back in |
| 02:11:19 | br33zy | it says in the sys log it registers the device... |
| 02:11:25 | br33zy | but i still cant get usb0 |
| 02:11:32 | br33zy | can someboyd please tell me what i am doing wrong |
| 02:11:42 | Saurian | makes a guess, "Try restarting USB services?" |
| 02:11:57 | br33zy | how do i do that? |
| 02:12:26 | Saurian | Erm, depends on your distro I think. I do service usb restart and service usbd restart (both as root) |
| 02:12:47 | br33zy | im in debian |
| 02:12:51 | br33zy | i dont think i have "usbd" |
| 02:12:53 | Saurian | No idea then. }:) |
| 02:13:50 | br33zy | this is fucked up |
| 02:13:53 | br33zy | can somebody help me? |
| 02:15:18 | Saurian | Try asking in a debian channel, I'm sure there's one, and they prolly know more about debian USB issues...? |
| 02:16:19 | br33zy | badl, you there? |
| 02:16:24 | br33zy | chouimat, you there? |
| 02:16:35 | br33zy | scanline, you there? |
| 02:16:58 | br33zy | treke_, you there? |
| 02:17:18 | br33zy | kergoth, you there? |
| 02:17:24 | br33zy | seems like its not working... |
| 02:17:33 | br33zy | nobody will answer my question in debian |
| 02:18:10 | Saurian | dunnos then. Never messed with debian |
| 02:18:21 | br33zy | what are you running? |
| 02:18:28 | Saurian | Mandrake |
| 02:18:34 | badl | hello br33zy |
| 02:18:42 | br33zy | badl, im having a problem |
| 02:18:42 | br33zy | 2 now |
| 02:18:44 | br33zy | first problem |
| 02:18:45 | br33zy | open zaurus |
| 02:18:47 | badl | yes |
| 02:18:50 | br33zy | keeps on flashing the cursor |
| 02:18:55 | br33zy | and its been doing this for like a minute |
| 02:18:59 | br33zy | i did a hard reset |
| 02:19:01 | br33zy | or |
| 02:19:11 | br33zy | i just switched that battery switch from off to on |
| 02:19:14 | badl | flashing the cursor? |
| 02:19:16 | br33zy | now im waiting for this thing to go |
| 02:19:17 | br33zy | yeah |
| 02:19:21 | br33zy | its this little white curor |
| 02:19:31 | br33zy | i can see the open zaurus dinosaur or whatever it is |
| 02:19:35 | badl | ohhh |
| 02:19:40 | br33zy | the big icon in the beginning |
| 02:19:43 | br33zy | and its not booting |
| 02:19:46 | br33zy | its just flashing its curosr |
| 02:19:51 | badl | did you just reflash to OZ? |
| 02:19:56 | br33zy | yeah |
| 02:19:58 | br33zy | but then it finished |
| 02:20:04 | br33zy | and then i was in the qt |
| 02:20:12 | badl | don't know sorry |
| 02:20:13 | br33zy | and then i just flipped the battery switch |
| 02:20:47 | br33zy | ok other question |
| 02:20:51 | br33zy | i have modules |
| 02:20:53 | br33zy | usbdnet |
| 02:20:57 | br33zy | and usbcore |
| 02:20:58 | br33zy | running |
| 02:21:04 | br33zy | and whenever i put my zaurus in the cradel |
| 02:21:15 | br33zy | or push the sync button, in my sys logs it adds a device, |
| 02:21:22 | br33zy | and it doesnt show up in ifconfig |
| 02:21:25 | br33zy | -a |
| 02:21:27 | br33zy | the usb0 |
| 02:21:30 | br33zy | it doesnt come up |
| 02:21:34 | br33zy | what the hell am idoing wrong |
| 02:21:38 | br33zy | btw, oz is working now |
| 02:21:48 | br33zy | i did a hard reset |
| 02:22:23 | badl | usbd problem.. i have had the same random effect on my redhat box.... worked perfectly on debain though |
| 02:22:28 | br33zy | damn |
| 02:22:30 | br33zy | it works now |
| 02:22:34 | br33zy | im in debian |
| 02:22:40 | br33zy | err |
| 02:22:42 | br33zy | i hate this shit |
| 02:22:44 | br33zy | it works now |
| 02:22:45 | badl | yep |
| 02:22:50 | br33zy | hey badl, you good luck |
| 02:22:50 | badl | but thats the fun of the Z ;) |
| 02:22:51 | br33zy | stay here |
| 02:22:57 | br33zy | one more thing |
| 02:22:57 | badl | haha |
| 02:23:25 | br33zy | listen |
| 02:23:28 | br33zy | i cant get internet to work |
| 02:23:30 | badl | k |
| 02:23:39 | badl | now route or gateway set? |
| 02:23:41 | br33zy | i did |
| 02:23:43 | badl | now=no |
| 02:23:54 | br33zy | iptables -t nat -F |
| 02:23:55 | br33zy | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j SNAT -o eth0 --to MY_IP |
| 02:23:55 | br33zy | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 02:23:58 | br33zy | this |
| 02:24:03 | br33zy | and then on the zaurus |
| 02:24:09 | badl | yes |
| 02:24:14 | br33zy | i did |
| 02:24:15 | br33zy | route add -host 192.168.129.200 usbd0 |
| 02:24:15 | br33zy | route delete -net 192.168.129.0/24 usbd0 |
| 02:24:15 | br33zy | route add default gw 192.168.129.200 |
| 02:24:15 | br33zy | then edit /etc/resolv.conf to add the IP of your DNS: |
| 02:24:15 | br33zy | add a line like this nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the address of your nameserver. |
| 02:24:18 | br33zy | but |
| 02:24:20 | br33zy | on |
| 02:24:27 | br33zy | route delete -net 192.168.129.0/24 usbd0 |
| 02:24:34 | br33zy | it errored out and sayed something like |
| 02:24:41 | br33zy | "couldnt resolve 192.168.129.0/24" |
| 02:25:23 | badl | that was when you restarted iptables? |
| 02:28:49 | br33zy | huh |
| 02:29:44 | scanline | is back (gone 00:20:41) |
| 02:29:47 | br33zy | i gtg |
| 02:29:50 | br33zy | i'll be back soon |
| 02:29:51 | br33zy | later |
| 02:29:53 | br33zy | thanks for the help |
| 02:53:51 | hardwire | bastard.. |
| 02:55:30 | TDT | Would anyone have an idea on why when I try to sync something from my laptop (running win2k) to my zaurus, using USB and trying to save it to my SD card that it stalls? |
| 02:56:02 | chouimat | hey hardwire |
| 02:56:51 | badalex | hey Bones3D |
| 02:56:57 | Bones3D | heya |
| 02:57:20 | TDT | I can save the info to the internal memory, but not the SD stick. |
| 02:57:25 | badl | TDT: i have the same problem.... it transfers the file via qtopia desktop then the gauge bar reset to zero and stalls... i find by clicking on cancel when it does this, transfers the file |
| 02:57:39 | badalex | i just use scp :) |
| 02:57:55 | TDT | badalex: I only have the USB connection at the moment. |
| 02:58:04 | TDT | badl: same problem I have, I'll try that. |
| 02:58:12 | Bones3D | tdt, have you upgrade to the 2.38 ROM? |
| 02:58:14 | badalex | TDT try ftping .. to it |
| 02:58:39 | badl | fuck my hard drive is singing to me.... fucken dell shit |
| 02:59:23 | Bones3D | I think the 2.37 rom (the one the zaurus has by default, I think) had some issues with SD cards. |
| 03:06:11 | TDT | I haven't upgraded this at all yet |
| 03:10:09 | TDT | grr...some of this software is good, but costs. man, we need a GNU dictionary service lol |
| 03:11:35 | treke|home | gnu dictionary service? |
| 03:12:45 | TDT | gnu dictionaries, spanish<->english translators, spell checkers, etc |
| 03:12:58 | TDT | It's like all the ones now are pay. |
| 03:13:01 | TDT | it's annoying. |
| 03:23:08 | TDT | Does anyone here know if you can change the background on the zaurus? |
| 03:23:16 | treke|home | no you cant |
| 03:23:22 | treke|home | only in OpenZaurus |
| 03:23:27 | TDT | gah...ok |
| 03:23:42 | TDT | treke|home: do you run openzaurus? |
| 03:24:04 | treke|home | sort of |
| 03:24:11 | treke|home | I use opie on an ipaq |
| 03:24:29 | Bones3D | hmm... openzaurus is pretty, but its not easy to use. |
| 03:24:45 | badl | ? ease to use |
| 03:25:12 | Bones3D | it has a higher learning curve than sharp's rom |
| 03:25:24 | badl | nah |
| 03:26:00 | Bones3D | heh... you ever tried using the open zaurus package manager? ;-P |
| 03:26:49 | badl | nope.. i find sharps pkg manager shot as well... as half the pkgs don't install on cf/sd..... so its an unpack and install by hand if need be |
| 03:27:04 | Bones3D | I reverted back to the sharp rom because it's more productive. |
| 03:27:09 | scanline | is away: pool |
| 03:27:12 | treke|home | Bones3D: if its anywhere near as bad as qtopias package manager was, it's a tie :) |
| 03:27:49 | Bones3D | I'm not saying sharp's manager is great, but its a hell of a lot simpler to figure out |
| 03:28:21 | Titan | is there a better media player I can get for Z that plays more types of files? |
| 03:28:27 | Bones3D | not that I use it anymore anyway... just run ipkg from terminal |
| 03:28:30 | TDT | lol, I'm used to installing tarballs, this isn't very hard lol. |
| 03:28:32 | treke|home | opie-player2 or tkcplayer |
| 03:29:49 | Titan | does the opie one have to have the opie emulator installed? |
| 03:30:22 | treke|home | ope emulator? |
| 03:30:34 | Titan | nevermind |
| 03:31:33 | treke|home | might need to install libopie |
| 03:31:56 | treke|home | but OPIE apps are just Qtopia apps |
| 03:33:40 | Titan | where can I find it |
| 03:33:52 | | opie is the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment. More info at http://opie.handhelds.org/ http://www.opie.info/ http://www.opie.us/ or in the #opie channel. Installation instructions at http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php?OpieInstallation or respect |
| 03:33:52 | treke|home | ibot: opie? |
| 03:51:36 | Titan | ok so I download mediaplayer2 and codecs. add/remove sees the codecs but not the actual player.ipk. I go get libopie and what I think is right (zlib1g_1). ZLib wont install correctly so now I'mstuck |
| 03:54:17 | Bones3D | have you tried doing the install from the terminal? |
| 03:54:49 | Titan | no |
| 03:56:43 | Bones3D | ok, if you know the path of your .ipk file, the command is "ipkg install filename.ipk" (replace "filename" with the real file name) |
| 03:58:05 | Bones3D | if it gives you an error about encountering an end of file, the ipk file was corrupted somewhere between the server you downloaded from and the zaurus. |
| 03:58:47 | Saurian | What's the Document path? |
| 03:59:00 | Saurian | Er, Documents, on the launcher... |
| 03:59:23 | Bones3D | hmm... I think it's /home/root/Documents let me check. |
| 03:59:40 | badalex|tube | yeah thats right |
| 03:59:53 | Saurian | can't fiddle with things yet, but he can look. }:) |
| 04:00:20 | Bones3D | yeah |
| 04:01:01 | Saurian | What's a good development language for the Z, assuming I wanted to code *on* it? |
| 04:01:34 | Saurian | I'm assuming that nothing like gcc is installed, and installing it would be a pain in the ass... }:) |
| 04:01:43 | Saurian | And eat vast resources. }:) |
| 04:01:46 | Bones3D | hmm... good question. I haven't tried programming on it. |
| 04:02:43 | Saurian | I'm a big fan of doing it that way. I can code while I'm sitting at work bored. }:) |
| 04:03:04 | badalex|tube | of course you can code... you just cant compile... |
| 04:03:38 | Saurian | That'd suck... }:) |
| 04:03:44 | nitup | or you could load gcc onto it http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=293 |
| 04:04:44 | Bones3D | if you just want to code for the hell of it, you could throw perl on it. |
| 04:05:14 | nitup | if you want to do web development... apache/php/mysql |
| 04:07:46 | nitup | is a 24M cf card big enough to flash the Z or does it need to be 32 or larger |
| 04:08:47 | Bones3D | the OSPACK is about 16MB in size |
| 04:09:09 | Bones3D | assuming your using sharps rom |
| 04:09:21 | nitup | yeah, the readme says 32 or more... just wondering if some unpacking was going on? |
| 04:10:21 | Bones3D | hmm... you're probably safe with 24... I imagine it unpacks into the system RAM instead of the CF |
| 04:11:21 | Bones3D | I had a bunch of fairly large files on my 32MB card with the OSPACK... no issues there |
| 04:11:38 | nitup | ok, cool thx |
| 04:11:44 | Bones3D | *nod* |
| 04:12:02 | nitup | I didn't want to *assume* and have an unusable Z |
| 04:12:06 | treke|home | I'm guessing they stated 32MB because their more common that 24MBs |
| 04:12:26 | treke|home | and a 16MB card would have slightly too small after formatting |
| 04:12:30 | Bones3D | most likely... 24MB is an odd size... and 16 would be too small |
| 04:13:27 | treke|home | I didnt even know they made them :) |
| 04:13:47 | nitup | haha, yeah, someone gave me one from an old camera they once had... |
| 04:13:52 | Bones3D | they have other weird sizes too... like 160 and 192 |
| 04:20:09 | Saurian | There any way to rename a file without a terminal? }:) |
| 04:20:47 | Bones3D | you can if you have a file manager installed |
| 04:21:06 | Titan | hey Bones, this file (zlib) keeps on not working, it says ldconfig:not found |
| 04:21:18 | Saurian | So if I'm just using the stuff on the ROM I can't? }:) |
| 04:21:59 | Bones3D | hmm... you sure it was installed successfully? |
| 04:22:58 | Titan | what was installed successfully? |
| 04:23:22 | Bones3D | the zlib file |
| 04:24:53 | Titan | exact quote from terminal: \unpacking...done ldconfig: not found |
| 04:25:54 | badalex|tube | gn |
| 04:25:56 | badalex|tube | later |
| 04:27:00 | Titan | it stops there so I don't think its successful |
| 04:29:49 | Titan | any ideas bones? |
| 04:29:57 | | Atomic >> http://zfi.zaurii.com/index.phtml?p=d&d=485 |
| 04:29:59 | | backgammon >> http://zfi.zaurii.com/index.phtml?p=d&d=486 |
| 04:30:00 | | BilliardZ >> http://zfi.zaurii.com/index.phtml?p=d&d=16 |
| 04:30:01 | | 3 of 10 shown. See all at http://zaurii.com/zfi/index.phtml?p=r&r=game |
| 04:30:01 | nasa | ibot: search zfi for game |
| 04:30:13 | | kergoth was last seen on #openzaurus 5 hours, 1 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying: and sour mix [Fri Oct 18 17:28:14 2002] |
| 04:30:13 | nasa | ibot seen kergoth |
| 04:30:14 | Bones3D | strange titan, I'm not sure |
| 04:30:31 | nitup | Titan: are you installing stuff? maybe the ipk's are corrupt |
| 04:30:34 | Titan | do you use this player? |
| 04:35:11 | nitup | I've not done much with media on mine.... I don't have a large flash card yet |
| 04:38:04 | Titan | yeah, I'm trying to get opie-mediaplayer to work |
| 04:38:31 | nitup | but I've had funny things happen when trying to install corrupt ipk files |
| 04:39:48 | Bones3D | titan, does your zaurus have a connection to the internet? |
| 04:40:46 | wParam | time to do bad things to the windows kernel |
| 04:41:02 | wParam | bsod almost certain |
| 04:41:06 | Bones3D | I've found the best way to get ipk's onto the zaurus without corrupting them is to use wget in the terminal |
| 04:41:30 | nitup | wget, yeah... very handy util |
| 05:01:48 | Titan | sorry, been trying to work on it |
| 05:02:17 | Titan | I found a new zlib file that works nicely but the main medifile still has problems |
| 05:03:56 | Titan | terminal says the main mediaplayer ipk is not in gzip format |
| 05:04:55 | Titan | DOES ANYONE SUCCESSFULLY USE OPIE MEDIA PLAYER? |
| 05:05:50 | moot | unfortunately, i never was able to |
| 05:05:53 | moot | that was monthes ago |
| 05:06:15 | Titan | arr... |
| 05:08:21 | moot | ok |
| 05:08:51 | moot | just edited resolv.conf, now i need to install the usb drivers, set the gateway, update, and fix the hotplug with the auto setting my gateway :( |
| 05:11:16 | ChipX86|Coding | hi kendrick2 |
| 05:11:22 | kendrick2 | hey |
| 05:12:01 | kendrick2 | <Leng> 11 days, 13 hours, 18 minutes, 17 seconds left until Piper and Kendrick's wedding! |
| 05:26:28 | Titan | Bones: I got it to work! |
| 05:26:36 | Bones3D | cool :-) |
| 05:28:05 | Titan | anyone: I select a video and press play and almost immediately it says "shortage of memory: forced to terminate" what can I do to stop this? |
| 05:33:05 | Bones3D | uninstall a ton of apps but the player |
| 05:35:33 | br33zy | hey guys |
| 05:35:49 | br33zy | when i type (trying to get internet on zaurus) on the zaurus: |
| 05:35:51 | br33zy | route delete -net 192.168.129.0/24 usbd0 |
| 05:35:54 | br33zy | it gives me |
| 05:36:12 | br33zy | wait a sec... |
| 05:38:46 | br33zy | right |
| 05:38:46 | br33zy | anybody here? |
| 05:38:51 | br33zy | Bones3D? |
| 05:38:59 | br33zy | kergoth? |
| 05:39:29 | kendrick2 | yeeees? |
| 05:39:37 | br33zy | kendrick2 |
| 05:39:45 | br33zy | what do i type to get internet working on my zaurus |
| 05:39:47 | Bones3D | I'm here, I just don't know enough about what your doing to be of any help ;-P |
| 05:39:49 | br33zy | the how-to isnt helping |
| 05:40:07 | br33zy | ive already typed (on pc): |
| 05:40:08 | br33zy | iptables -t nat -F |
| 05:40:08 | br33zy | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j SNAT -o ethX --to MY_IP |
| 05:40:08 | br33zy | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 05:40:12 | br33zy | and then on the zaurus |
| 05:40:24 | kendrick2 | just plugs ethernet into hub and it works :^) |
| 05:40:25 | kendrick2 | sorry :^/ |
| 05:40:45 | br33zy | it fails here: |
| 05:40:46 | br33zy | route delete -net 192.168.129.0/24 usbd0 |
| 05:40:49 | br33zy | it says: |
| 05:40:55 | br33zy | route: can't resolve 192.168.129.0/24 |
| 05:41:18 | Titan | where's a good place to get a tutorial on C compiling on Zaurus? |
| 05:41:25 | br33zy | uh |
| 05:41:35 | br33zy | http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/linux_compiler_setup_howto.shtml |
| 05:41:36 | kendrick2 | like, using ZGCC? |
| 05:41:36 | br33zy | ? |
| 05:41:39 | br33zy | oh |
| 05:41:49 | br33zy | http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/compiling_on_the_zaurus.shtml |
| 05:41:52 | kendrick2 | or compiling C on the DESKTOP, _FOR_ the Z? |
| 05:41:58 | kendrick2 | hehe - br33zy's full of URLs :) |
| 05:41:59 | br33zy | uh |
| 05:42:06 | br33zy | kendrick2, g++? |
| 05:42:11 | br33zy | gcc* |
| 05:42:15 | br33zy | just do |
| 05:42:25 | br33zy | /opt/Embedix/bin/gcc somefile.c -o somefile |
| 05:42:40 | br33zy | or where ever embedix is |
| 05:44:10 | br33zy | Bones3D, did you ever get internet on a zaurus connected in a cradel to your pc? |
| 05:44:49 | Bones3D | nope... I use wifi via cf... works right out of the box |
| 05:44:56 | br33zy | heh |
| 05:44:58 | br33zy | that sucks.. |
| 05:45:04 | br33zy | i cant wait to get my card |
| 05:45:13 | br33zy | Bones3D, what wireless cf card do you have? |
| 05:45:20 | br33zy | treke_ you there? |
| 05:45:24 | br33zy | treke|home, you there? |
| 05:45:37 | | br33zy: excuse me? |
| 05:45:37 | br33zy | ibot zaurus internet |
| 05:45:41 | Bones3D | linksys wcf11 |
| 05:45:43 | | hmmm... internet is full or pron! |
| 05:45:43 | br33zy | ibot internet |
| 05:45:51 | br33zy | Bones3D, you thats waht i want to get.. |
| 05:45:54 | br33zy | errr |
| 05:45:59 | br33zy | Bones3D, yup thats waht i want to get |
| 05:46:01 | br33zy | whatever.. |
| 05:46:02 | br33zy | lol |
| 05:46:21 | Bones3D | there's a minor issue with it... it blocks the stylus hole when its in use |
| 05:46:32 | br33zy | lol |
| 05:49:27 | br33zy | moo |
| 05:49:39 | br33zy | anselor|home, did you ever get internet on zaurus working? |
| 05:50:01 | anselor|home | br33zy: i just got my zaurus in today |
| 05:50:08 | br33zy | i got mine in yesterday :-D |
| 05:50:09 | br33zy | hehe |
| 05:50:17 | anselor|home | it's been out with sharp support for far too long. |
| 05:50:45 | anselor|home | or, it had been |
| 05:51:54 | br33zy | heh |
| 06:09:51 | br33zy | does anybody know where the package list feed is? |
| 06:09:53 | br33zy | like |
| 06:09:55 | br33zy | the destination? |
| 06:10:22 | anselor|home | where does the sharp rom mount the sd card? |
| 06:10:44 | nitup | /mnt/card |
| 06:12:56 | | feed is, like, a package repository. See http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds, http://www.zauruszone.com/feed, http://openzaurus.sf.net/feeds/unstable/, or http://www.zauruii.com/zfi |
| 06:12:56 | badl | ibot feed |
| 06:13:00 | badl | check that br33zy |
| 06:13:56 | br33zy | yeah |
| 06:13:58 | br33zy | just found it |
| 06:15:31 | anselor|home | after i load the spectrum ipk, how do i start using it? |
| 06:17:57 | br33zy | hey guys |
| 06:18:00 | br33zy | whenever i run |
| 06:18:02 | br33zy | ipkg update |
| 06:18:09 | br33zy | it just returns nothing |
| 06:18:12 | br33zy | as if it is done |
| 06:18:20 | br33zy | but it doesnt download any feed |
| 06:20:13 | br33zy | envermind |
| 06:20:14 | br33zy | nevermind |
| 06:23:49 | anselor|home | apparently the spectrum driver doesn't work quite as magically as the directions say. |
| 06:24:15 | anselor|home | cuz installing the ipk and plugging it in doesn't enable the card... |
| 06:42:58 | br33zy | wheres the screen rotation settings? |
| 06:51:27 | | anselor|home: huh? |
| 06:51:27 | anselor|home | ibot OZ3 |
| 06:51:30 | | anselor|home: i'm not following you... |
| 06:51:30 | anselor|home | ibot OZ= |
| 06:51:31 | | OZ is probably see openzaurus or http://OpenZaurus.SourceForge.net/ or /join #openzaurus |
| 06:51:31 | anselor|home | ibot OZ |
