| 00:00:17 | Cloudchaser | hiya ljp |
| 00:00:25 | nishi | hello pplz |
| 00:00:33 | Cloudchaser | hello |
| 00:00:45 | nishi | hi cc |
| 00:00:52 | Cloudchaser | how's everyone tonight? |
| 00:01:06 | nishi | doing good and urself ? |
| 00:01:17 | nishi | planning to attempt going to the OZ Rom |
| 00:01:26 | nishi | is it considered safe ? |
| 00:01:38 | nishi | is there one good URL that lists the steps in detail ? |
| 00:02:08 | Cloudchaser | i'm doing pretty well |
| 00:02:17 | Cloudchaser | not sure of today's oz state |
| 00:02:34 | Cloudchaser | should be readme and faq on sourceforge download site |
| 00:02:51 | nishi | ok cool |
| 00:03:09 | Cloudchaser | kergoth would be better one to ask |
| 00:04:01 | nishi | cool |
| 00:04:13 | nishi | looks around to see where kergoth is |
| 00:05:21 | ljp | I would wait till oz cools down a bit and more people test it |
| 00:06:19 | nishi | hmmm ok cool |
| 00:15:07 | Com[Plex] | hey uh.. whats the console command to find out the version info on the z? |
| 00:15:13 | Com[Plex] | version doesnt work.. |
| 00:16:04 | George- | yawn. |
| 00:16:10 | George- | 2:30 am |
| 00:16:10 | George- | perhaps I should sleep |
| 00:16:32 | djk-hw | sleep is good |
| 00:16:56 | George- | echo 1 > /proc/cpu/sleep :) |
| 00:17:44 | nishi | hey on the Z I have how do upgrade the sharp rom ? just run the exe I downloaded ? with the Z on the |
| 00:17:45 | treke|home | kill -9 `ps aux | grep George- | awk '{print $2}'` |
| 00:17:47 | nishi | docking stn ? |
| 00:18:01 | Com[Plex] | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/images/features/2002/09-26ciw-lg.jpg omfg |
| 00:18:16 | ljp | Com[Plex]: try uname -a |
| 00:18:42 | George- | treke |
| 00:18:43 | Com[Plex] | lol. thats intuitive |
| 00:18:53 | George- | treke|home: cat george- > /dev/death |
| 00:19:16 | djk-hw | Com[Plex] uname -a will give some answers |
| 00:19:49 | djk-hw | Com[Plex] I take it you are not familar with *nix |
| 00:20:56 | djk-hw | Com[Plex] nice monitor |
| 00:20:58 | Com[Plex] | not familiar enough to think that "uname -a" is even remotely intuitive for finding the version information for the shell im under |
| 00:21:21 | jbardin | whoa... number stations.. creepy stuff |
| 00:21:45 | jbardin | uname will give you the name oif the kernel |
| 00:21:58 | djk-hw | oh that would not be the shell that would be more the os and host name and other info |
| 00:22:22 | kryhme | how would i know if i had the source code to quake 3? |
| 00:22:22 | jbardin | echo $SHELL should give you the shell command |
| 00:22:34 | djk-hw | number stations I never got into them I have a friend that listens for hours go figure |
| 00:23:22 | jbardin | i sorta want to get into HAM now... |
| 00:23:39 | jbardin | i mean.. its crazy that stuff like that is being broadcasted |
| 00:23:47 | djk-hw | Com[Plex] what are you trying to find the Zaurus rom version, kernel level, or shell you are running in the terminal session? |
| 00:24:54 | Com[Plex] | shell info |
| 00:24:56 | djk-hw | jbardin: Amatuer Radio is a great hobby any different ways of being involved and how cool is it talk around the world |
| 00:25:06 | Com[Plex] | shell info for the terminal session im under. |
| 00:25:13 | djk-hw | the echo $SHELL will give the shell that is running then |
| 00:25:20 | Com[Plex] | ahahhh |
| 00:26:00 | djk-hw | Com[Plex]: are you more familar with windows or something else? |
| 00:26:36 | djk-hw | jbardin: if you are really interested check out http://www.arrl.org |
| 00:27:26 | Com[Plex] | windows. yeah. dont get me wrong, IM not an eggplant. I just dont have as much time for leanign new operating systems as I used to. |
| 00:28:01 | Bala | does anyone know of a way to have an app change its rotation settings on the fly?? |
| 00:28:13 | treke|home | Bala: you cant |
| 00:28:19 | treke|home | Bala: you have to restart the app |
| 00:28:23 | Bala | treke: hmm thats unfortuante |
| 00:28:25 | djk-hw | Com[Plex]: keep in mind windows have the same non-intutive commands |
| 00:28:26 | Com[Plex] | you sure? you cant script that? |
| 00:28:50 | Bala | treke: is there any other way to get an app to use rotated fonts then? |
| 00:28:54 | Com[Plex] | djk-hw yeah, I know. |
| 00:29:27 | djk-hw | Bala: are you using the rotation app? |
| 00:29:30 | treke|home | Bala: dunno |
| 00:29:33 | Com[Plex] | you sure yuo cant replace the binary file with a script to run, that invokes rotator to the appropriate stage, and starts the app? |
| 00:29:47 | Com[Plex] | you know, move the binary to a dif name, |
| 00:29:56 | treke|home | Com[Plex]: rotating per app is simple |
| 00:29:57 | Com[Plex] | *shrug* |
| 00:30:16 | treke|home | Com[Plex]: you just cant change the rotation of a running app |
| 00:30:23 | Com[Plex] | oh oh |
| 00:30:24 | Bala | djk-hw: well i looked at it.. its not quite waht i want.. i have an app that i want to have 2 modes regular and full screen rotated.. and to interactivelt swithc between the two |
| 00:30:26 | Com[Plex] | right |
| 00:30:53 | Bala | mind the typos |
| 00:31:20 | treke|home | Com[Plex]: QPEApplication::setRotation() should rotate your, as will adding a Rotation=[rotationvalue] to your .desktop file |
| 00:31:47 | Com[Plex] | hah! nice. thats much simpler :> |
| 00:32:29 | nishi | after I upgrade to the 2.38 Sharp ROM, I am no longer able to sync ... why so ? |
| 00:32:31 | treke|home | you can also set the right environmental variable before creating your qpeapplication object, but I've never tried that method |
| 00:33:04 | ljp | or, you could just twist the pda in your hand |
| 00:33:09 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 00:33:23 | treke|home | hehe |
| 00:33:30 | Bala | oh well.. i'll jsut disable the feature for now i guess... |
| 00:33:46 | djk-hw | nishi: how were you sync'ing before they block eth* from sync access to "fix" the security issue |
| 00:33:49 | treke|home | or write your app for X :) |
| 00:33:50 | ljp | heh ok, I'm a smartass |
| 00:34:36 | nishi | i was syncing while the Z is on the cradle. It worked for the default ROM version ... now doesn't with the 2.38 ROM |
| 00:34:49 | nishi | with the Z on the cradle ... |
| 00:35:11 | ljp | update your qtopiadesktop app |
| 00:35:16 | djk-hw | nishi: what os are you using? |
| 00:35:19 | nishi | i did see that the page had an intellisync version with the 2.37 update but there isn't one with the 2.38 update |
| 00:35:21 | nishi | win2K |
| 00:35:31 | ljp | oh intellsync |
| 00:35:38 | nishi | yes intellisync |
| 00:36:01 | nishi | am i hosed ? Should I downgrade to 2.37 ? |
| 00:36:02 | ljp | might try the latest intellsync you could find there |
| 00:36:14 | nishi | I believe I have that |
| 00:36:19 | djk-hw | nishi: should work I have no problem with XP when I was using 2000 there was some playing around with the networking to getting to see the Z |
| 00:37:38 | djk-hw | nishi: ah but then again I am using Qtopia Desktop gave up on Intellisync |
| 00:38:07 | djk-hw | don't use MS outlook so no loss |
| 00:39:13 | nishi | uh oh brb |
| 00:39:45 | nishi | ph call |
| 00:39:48 | chouimat | George-: go to sleep |
| 00:40:24 | djk-hw | He fell asleep on the key already it seems |
| 00:40:54 | chouimat | djk-hw: at his age I was sleeping already :) |
| 00:41:01 | George- | chouimat: no |
| 00:41:17 | djk-hw | what age is that? |
| 00:41:23 | chouimat | djk-hw: 14 |
| 00:42:11 | djk-hw | George-: where are you that it is 2AM? |
| 00:42:36 | George- | 3am now |
| 00:42:38 | George- | UK |
| 00:42:38 | George- | London |
| 00:43:31 | George- | ok |
| 00:43:33 | George- | I'm off |
| 00:43:34 | George- | g'night |
| 00:43:38 | djk-hw | George-: you know the lack of sleep will stunt your growth but I am guessing you will be sleeping past nooon anyway ;-) |
| 00:43:50 | chouimat | lol |
| 00:43:54 | _AleX_ | it's 4AM here ... toulouse in france |
| 00:44:05 | George- | djk-hw: wtf? =P |
| 00:44:09 | George- | Anyway |
| 00:44:10 | George- | ciao |
| 00:44:11 | George- | I'm off |
| 00:44:29 | _AleX_ | i'm back from pub ... thanks to linux free bier !-) |
| 00:44:29 | djk-hw | sorry on a big one on the abrev's wtf? |
| 00:46:02 | djk-hw | chouimat: it is amazing what college and coffee will do ones sleep habits add kids to the mix and the game is over |
| 00:51:21 | djk-hw | gee it got quiet in here |
| 00:51:42 | chouimat | djk-hw: hehe, hopefully I don't have kid, for now, but before getting one I must find a new girlfriend :) |
| 00:52:40 | djk-hw | chouimat|TV: Ah so guess my ages is showing ;-) |
| 00:52:52 | chouimat|TV | djk-hw: i'm 28 |
| 00:53:36 | chouimat|TV | bb in 1hr andromeda on TV |
| 00:53:39 | djk-hw | chouimat|TV: I agree make sure you find the right girl and please try to do it right and get married before starting the family thiing |
| 00:54:01 | chouimat|TV | djk-hw: I'm divorced |
| 00:55:10 | djk-hw | ouch |
| 00:55:24 | djk-hw | well better done before kids |
| 00:55:31 | djk-hw | enjoy the show |
| 00:56:20 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone feel daring |
| 00:56:27 | TheMasterMind1 | want ot try the new testing oz images? |
| 00:56:48 | ljp | no |
| 00:56:56 | ljp | not till you try it |
| 00:56:57 | chouimat|TV | djk-hw: I will |
| 00:57:23 | TheMasterMind1 | huh? |
| 00:57:32 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: i am using it right now |
| 00:57:33 | TheMasterMind1 | its great |
| 00:57:38 | ljp | oh, ok |
| 00:57:48 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone interested? |
| 00:57:55 | TheMasterMind1 | in either reflashing or updating from a feed |
| 00:57:56 | djk-hw | TheMasterMind1: not unless you are providing a second Z to use and beta tester <grin> |
| 00:58:03 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 00:58:04 | TheMasterMind1 | you wish |
| 00:58:08 | ljp | url? |
| 00:58:14 | djk-hw | yes actual ;-) |
| 00:58:43 | myuu | a little later TMM |
| 01:00:24 | nishi | i guess i'll downgrade to sharp 2.37 |
| 01:00:34 | nishi | 2.38 sux |
| 01:00:46 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: why? |
| 01:01:12 | ljp | TheMasterMind1: url? |
| 01:01:15 | TheMasterMind1 | gimme a sec |
| 01:01:18 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to setup the feed |
| 01:01:26 | ljp | c'mon, c'mon |
| 01:01:38 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/testing-optimized/ |
| 01:01:38 | ljp | initrd.bin |
| 01:01:40 | TheMasterMind1 | there's the bin |
| 01:01:45 | TheMasterMind1 | the feed will be up in a few |
| 01:01:53 | nishi | (1) I cant sync with Intellisync 1.43E (2) I inserted a SanDisk 128MB card (CF) and it is not seen |
| 01:02:23 | ljp | feed schmeed |
| 01:03:09 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/testing/Sep28/ |
| 01:03:19 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: you should use OZ :) |
| 01:03:28 | nishi | yes I want to upgrade !! |
| 01:03:35 | nishi | but its still buggy right ? |
| 01:03:40 | myuu | ya OZ ownz |
| 01:04:00 | nishi | why doesn't the Z see the 128MB SanDisk card ? |
| 01:04:03 | nishi | CF card |
| 01:04:21 | myuu | holy crap, i wrote a php script and it worked within 1 try! |
| 01:04:25 | myuu | 0_0 |
| 01:04:58 | W|GGL|T | because its sandisk |
| 01:05:00 | W|GGL|T | heh |
| 01:05:04 | nishi | any clues MM ? |
| 01:05:05 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: no, use this testing thing i just gave a link to.. its great |
| 01:05:07 | W|GGL|T | that's why i got viking |
| 01:05:10 | TheMasterMind1 | it runs wonderfully |
| 01:05:16 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/testing/Sep28/ |
| 01:05:20 | TheMasterMind1 | use the image in there |
| 01:05:27 | nishi | is it stable ? hope it wont burn my Z |
| 01:05:34 | TheMasterMind1 | btw, anyone testing the new rom come to #openzaurus |
| 01:05:37 | TheMasterMind1 | and tell us of any bugs |
| 01:05:54 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: 5-6 people have tested it already and its running great |
| 01:06:04 | ljp | heh |
| 01:09:15 | nishi | hello there got disconn MM |
| 01:09:45 | nishi | ok if I want to downgrade to 2.37, I just run the setup again correct ? |
| 01:09:50 | chouimat|TV | TheMasterMind1: kernel? |
| 01:10:24 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat|TV: you can use the one you have already |
| 01:10:29 | TheMasterMind1 | nothing's changed in the kernel |
| 01:10:39 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: yes, you can just reflash |
| 01:10:39 | chouimat|TV | don't have one |
| 01:10:46 | nishi | whats the latest stable release of OZ ? |
| 01:10:54 | TheMasterMind1 | this is by far the most stable |
| 01:10:59 | chouimat|TV | TheMasterMind1: I'm waiting my z |
| 01:11:02 | TheMasterMind1 | the previous releases are not too stable |
| 01:11:02 | nishi | :)) |
| 01:11:12 | nishi | what do you say, I give it a shot ? |
| 01:11:16 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 01:11:19 | TheMasterMind1 | you'll like it a lot |
| 01:11:22 | nishi | can I go back to Sharp if I have probs ? |
| 01:11:29 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 01:11:37 | TheMasterMind1 | just reflash and you're back on sharp |
| 01:12:03 | nishi | reflash = run the sharp .exe file ? |
| 01:12:10 | nishi | for 2.3x ? |
| 01:12:20 | TheMasterMind1 | no, you stick the rom on the CF and flash the Z like you flash with OZ |
| 01:12:46 | nishi | ok I am new to this ... so first obviously I back up the sharp ROM onto the CF card |
| 01:14:22 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 01:14:29 | TheMasterMind1 | you get it off of sharp's website |
| 01:14:32 | ljp | no new kernel? |
| 01:14:37 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: nope |
| 01:14:52 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth made one change so the light comes on before it animated the logo |
| 01:14:55 | TheMasterMind1 | but that's not pushed or tested yet |
| 01:15:01 | TheMasterMind1 | other than that, the kernels are the same |
| 01:15:28 | nishi | wait MM, I'm confused ... I have no data so no need to backup anything. |
| 01:15:34 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 01:15:39 | TheMasterMind1 | you just flash |
| 01:15:41 | nishi | do I need to backup the Sharp ROM (2.38) onto the CF card ? |
| 01:15:46 | TheMasterMind1 | if you don't like it, you can flash the sharp rom |
| 01:15:49 | TheMasterMind1 | which you can get on the sharp website |
| 01:16:08 | TheMasterMind1 | make sure your cf is vfat. get the initrd.bin and bootflag.txt off of that link and put them on the CF |
| 01:16:18 | TheMasterMind1 | then get a kernel image from the sf download page and put that on the CF |
| 01:16:25 | TheMasterMind1 | renamed to zImage |
| 01:16:26 | TheMasterMind1 | then flash |
| 01:16:32 | nishi | so going thru several iterations of OZ -> Sharp -> OZ is safe |
| 01:16:38 | nishi | my my a bit slow plz :) |
| 01:17:04 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 01:17:07 | TheMasterMind1 | that won't hurt anything |
| 01:17:43 | nishi | is there a step by step URL/Info page to go to OZ ? |
| 01:17:48 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 01:17:48 | nishi | cool ... i wanna give it a shot |
| 01:18:20 | TheMasterMind1 | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=43045 |
| 01:18:22 | nishi | ok ... now after I install OZ, is there a safe way to upgrade to newer versions of OZ ? |
| 01:18:25 | TheMasterMind1 | read the FAQ |
| 01:18:34 | nishi | will OZ run other programs on the ZSI ? |
| 01:18:35 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: yep, you just upgrade through the package manager |
| 01:18:36 | nishi | sure |
| 01:18:40 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: yep, it should |
| 01:18:42 | nishi | cool |
| 01:18:43 | TheMasterMind1 | read the FAQ |
| 01:18:47 | TheMasterMind1 | then choose a zImage to use |
| 01:18:58 | TheMasterMind1 | for 5500, i recommend 40-24 |
| 01:19:08 | nishi | ok I'm reading ... banking on ur expertise ... I will jump right back here if I have questions :) |
| 01:19:10 | nishi | cool |
| 01:19:17 | TheMasterMind1 | rename it to zImage and put it on the CF along with the bootflag.txt and initrd.bin from the other link |
| 01:19:23 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/testing/Sep28/ |
| 01:20:13 | nishi | ok my CF card is visible now ... it did seat in tightly |
| 01:20:29 | chouimat|TV | TheMasterMind1: the no ramdisk image work well? |
| 01:20:40 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat|TV: yep |
| 01:20:55 | nishi | I leave the Z on the cradle all the while ? |
| 01:21:03 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:21:08 | TheMasterMind1 | first you put those files on there |
| 01:21:11 | TheMasterMind1 | did you do that already? |
| 01:21:23 | chouimat|TV | TheMasterMind1: ok I will try this when i get my z next week |
| 01:21:26 | nishi | no no ... first I have to download them to my laptop |
| 01:21:31 | TheMasterMind1 | 3 files.. zImage bootflag.txt and initrd.bin |
| 01:21:35 | TheMasterMind1 | put those three on the CF first |
| 01:21:50 | TheMasterMind1 | you don't have a CF reader? |
| 01:24:19 | nishi | MM can you give me those URL's again plz ? I got disconnected |
| 01:24:43 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/testing/Sep28/ |
| 01:24:50 | TheMasterMind1 | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=43045 |
| 01:25:03 | nishi | thx bud |
| 01:25:10 | TheMasterMind1 | np |
| 01:29:18 | nishi | ok so I first copy the three files to the CF (inside the Card reader) from my laptop and then put the CF into the Z and reboot the Z ? You said I should use the 40-24 for the SL-5500 right ? |
| 01:30:55 | chouimat|TV | TheMasterMind1: what is the purpose of bootflag.txt |
| 01:31:34 | kergoth | chouimat|TV: passes hardcoded default runlevel to the kernel |
| 01:31:53 | kergoth | chouimat|TV: we put a 'invalid' setting in the file, which makes it revert to no hardcoded runlevel, trust inittab to deal with that. |
| 01:32:50 | chouimat|TV | kergoth: ok thanks |
| 01:42:29 | angry | when you need to compile something with "IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH" what do you have to change/edit? |
| 01:44:45 | ciaolinux | chouimat|TV: did you receive your Z? |
| 01:45:00 | | chouimat|TV was last seen on #zaurus 12 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying: kergoth: ok thanks [Sun Sep 29 02:32:50 2002] |
| 01:45:00 | ciaolinux | ibot: seen chouimat|TV |
| 01:45:45 | nishi | guys I got disconnected |
| 01:46:00 | KhensU | angry: set an environment variable |
| 01:46:02 | nishi | MM : I can't reach the Sep28 directory you pointed me to |
| 01:47:05 | kergoth | nishi: path changed to clarify that the available initrd.bin is an unofficial one for testing purposes |
| 01:47:58 | nishi | oh ok |
| 01:48:09 | nishi | which is the last official one ? |
| 01:48:22 | nishi | ok whats the new path plz kergoth ? |
| 01:49:11 | Onyx4 | there is no official "new" one yet |
| 01:49:31 | Onyx4 | it's working fine so far, but still marked testing/unofficial |
| 01:49:52 | nishi | :) |
| 01:50:35 | Onyx4 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/unofficial/unstable/optimized/ |
| 01:51:07 | nishi | from the Sourceforge page, when I try to download the initrd and boot... files, they are for some reason getting downloaded as .html files :(( I should use the version 2.9.5.5 oz3b10.5.5 correct ? |
| 01:51:41 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: you should get the zImage from the sf page and the initrd.bin from this link |
| 01:51:45 | TheMasterMind1 | you can't right click save |
| 01:51:48 | TheMasterMind1 | you need to click on the file |
| 01:51:50 | TheMasterMind1 | its another html page |
| 01:51:51 | nishi | oh ok .. ahaa |
| 01:51:53 | TheMasterMind1 | that lets you choose server |
| 01:52:06 | TheMasterMind1 | the zImages are under the 2.9.5 section |
| 01:52:35 | Onyx4 | the initrd from 2.9.5.5 is too old and buggy nishi, if you want to try something official but working and recent, wait a few days :) |
| 01:52:37 | nishi | dont see any zimages under 2.9.5 ... they are under 2.9.4 on the sourceforge page |
| 01:52:51 | Onyx4 | that's correct, use zimage from 2.9.4 |
| 01:52:55 | Onyx4 | they are the same |
| 01:52:57 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, 2.9.4 then |
| 01:53:25 | nishi | ok zimage from 2.9.4, initrd from the .../unstable/optimized link correct ? |
| 01:53:43 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 01:53:47 | nishi | good |
| 01:53:49 | TheMasterMind1 | and bootflag.txt from there too |
| 01:53:53 | nishi | yo |
| 01:55:47 | nishi | under 2.9.4, there are 2 versions of zimage-40-24 .. which is the one to use ? |
| 01:57:04 | TheMasterMind1 | the one with more download |
| 01:57:04 | TheMasterMind1 | s |
| 01:57:36 | nishi | ok so the no. 439 is the download count :) |
| 01:59:13 | extremis | would anyone like to buy my sl5500 + smc 802.11b card ? |
| 01:59:28 | extremis | with $100 of bigboss' software too |
| 02:00:04 | angry | you drive a hard bargain... $50? |
| 02:00:14 | extremis | x110 |
| 02:00:55 | chouimat|TV | extremis: 60$ |
| 02:01:00 | extremis | x110 |
| 02:01:11 | ciaolinux | extremis: how much? |
| 02:01:23 | extremis | $550 |
| 02:01:28 | ciaolinux | choumat: hi... any news? |
| 02:01:35 | choumat | ciaolinux: you? |
| 02:01:40 | ciaolinux | extremis: ? i can buy it new... |
| 02:01:57 | ciaolinux | choumat: nope! :-( i guess i have to wait monday evening |
| 02:02:09 | choumat | ciaolinux: yup |
| 02:02:38 | TheMasterMind1 | how much is the smc? |
| 02:02:45 | TheMasterMind1 | a new zaurus shipped = 332 |
| 02:02:53 | TheMasterMind1 | wcf12 shipped = 62 |
| 02:02:57 | TheMasterMind1 | + 100 software |
| 02:04:43 | angry | BZFlag: thanks to bzflag, i now have a reason not to boot back into windows |
| 02:05:07 | nishi | folks ... I have the 3 files on CF now ... should I follow the INSTALLATION instructions on http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/download/readme/readme_romimage112.asp |
| 02:05:23 | nishi | those appear to be for SL-5000D ? |
| 02:07:03 | TheMasterMind1 | yes, they will work |
| 02:07:18 | nishi | ok cool ! |
| 02:07:29 | nishi | bless me :) I am going to try it out now :) |
| 02:07:48 | nishi | so I just insert the CF into the Zaurus ? Should the Z be connected to my laptop ? |
| 02:08:23 | TheMasterMind1 | connect the Z to power cable |
| 02:08:25 | TheMasterMind1 | and put the CF in |
| 02:08:35 | TheMasterMind1 | go into replace battery mode |
| 02:08:43 | TheMasterMind1 | hold down C and D on the keyboard |
| 02:08:51 | TheMasterMind1 | press the hard reset button in the battery compartment |
| 02:08:56 | TheMasterMind1 | release C and D |
| 02:09:00 | TheMasterMind1 | both lights should come on |
| 02:09:02 | TheMasterMind1 | wiat til they go off |
| 02:09:13 | TheMasterMind1 | press hard reset button |
| 02:09:21 | TheMasterMind1 | put cover back on, flip to normal operation |
| 02:09:24 | TheMasterMind1 | turn it on |
| 02:15:09 | nishi | geez ... how do you hold down C and D and press hard reset at the back ? :) |
| 02:16:07 | BZFlag | angry: lovin' the game huh? ;-) |
| 02:16:41 | BZFlag | nishi: you have a 5000 right? not a 5500? |
| 02:16:46 | nishi | 5500 |
| 02:17:06 | nishi | and i've presses the c d and hard reset |
| 02:17:15 | angry | BZFlag: aww yeah :) |
| 02:17:20 | nishi | something done wrong ???? |
| 02:17:26 | BZFlag | hmm. I think you want a different ROM. don't reset it if the lights are on. |
| 02:17:28 | nishi | z busted ? |
| 02:17:33 | BZFlag | what do the lights look like now? |
| 02:17:51 | BZFlag | and what is on the screen? |
| 02:18:05 | nishi | ok ... i pressed C and D and pressed hard reset ... green and orange lights are on and solid ... |
| 02:18:10 | nishi | Z is off |
| 02:18:20 | BZFlag | wait till the lights go out then. |
| 02:18:28 | nishi | ok ... am I busted ? |
| 02:18:37 | BZFlag | should be about 4 minutes or so? |
| 02:18:45 | nishi | should I turn on the Z to see whats on the screen |
| 02:18:50 | BZFlag | nishi: don't know. we'll see. |
| 02:18:53 | BZFlag | NO! |
| 02:19:01 | nishi | ok ... acknowledged NO :) |
| 02:19:08 | BZFlag | WAIT TILL THE LIGHTS GO OUT. |
| 02:19:09 | nishi | waiting ... |
| 02:19:12 | nishi | lights gone out |
| 02:19:12 | BZFlag | ok |
| 02:19:19 | nishi | fingers crossed |
| 02:19:28 | ljp | hehehe |
| 02:19:32 | nishi | :) |
| 02:19:33 | BZFlag | now hit the reset on the back , then slose the battery case... |
| 02:19:39 | BZFlag | then hit the power button. |
| 02:19:45 | BZFlag | s/slose/close/ |
| 02:19:51 | Onyx4 | if the lights go on then off quickly and it doesn't take 3 minutes, it's caused you didn't name the files right or you don't have a valid fat16 filesystem |
| 02:20:19 | nishi | battery switch back to normal operation ? |
| 02:20:23 | BZFlag | Onyx4: that's what I'm hoping, that he still has what he did have before as he had the 5000 rom images. |
| 02:20:25 | BZFlag | yes. |
| 02:20:39 | Onyx4 | yes most of the time, when it doesn't find the images, it doesn't modify what's in the rom |
| 02:20:39 | BZFlag | nishi: yes. battery closed, as normal. then power up. |
| 02:20:49 | BZFlag | Onyx4: nod |
| 02:21:02 | nishi | i see the OZ logo |
| 02:21:15 | ljp | now wait till its booted |
| 02:21:25 | ljp | it'll take a while the first time |
| 02:21:42 | Onyx4 | if you see "init" and doing stuff, then things will be most likely ok :) |
| 02:21:55 | nishi | yep reconfiguring pkgs |
| 02:22:20 | nishi | aah thank god ... man this was filled with more thrill than landing the space shuttle on earth :)) |
| 02:22:30 | BZFlag | nishi: you are trying to get to OZ or sharp roms? |
| 02:22:43 | Onyx4 | nishi: I know I almost shit my pant the first timed I flashed my Z |
| 02:22:57 | nishi | trying to get to OZ latest (Sep28) from Sharp ROM 2.38 |
| 02:23:02 | nishi | the SL-5500 |
| 02:23:19 | BZFlag | cool. looks like you are on your way. ;-) |
| 02:23:20 | nishi | hahah :) I can feel what you went through Onyx |
| 02:23:26 | nishi | yeah |
| 02:23:55 | nishi | so do the steps on the page I mentioned earlier still apply ? |
| 02:23:57 | Onyx4 | now that you flashed OZ, you probaly won't have to flash it ever again , just upgrade packages |
| 02:24:16 | Onyx4 | and if you are careful and upgrade from stable packages, you should not screw it up, |
| 02:24:29 | nishi | gr8 |
| 02:24:35 | Onyx4 | might just be a good idea to keep that CF card aside as it is if you ever need to reflash since you don't have a reader |
| 02:24:41 | nishi | yes I will upgrade to packages from ZSI only ... |
| 02:24:50 | nishi | I have a reader |
| 02:25:00 | Onyx4 | nishi: OZ have packages in the feed , lots of them |
| 02:25:07 | Onyx4 | nishi: those are ok |
| 02:25:19 | nishi | was planning to return it ... but now I think its an invaluable tool :) |
| 02:25:26 | nishi | ok I see root login |
| 02:25:27 | Onyx4 | it doesn't come with a lot of stuff installed , that's the point you select what you need |
| 02:25:41 | nishi | hey does OPIE still run as root ? |
| 02:26:02 | Onyx4 | as of now yes |
| 02:26:06 | Onyx4 | but we're working on it |
| 02:26:09 | nishi | whats the initial password ? |
| 02:26:12 | Onyx4 | nothing |
| 02:26:13 | nishi | ok cool |
| 02:26:15 | nishi | aah |
| 02:26:26 | nishi | still can i configure a user ? |
| 02:26:34 | Onyx4 | there is a user manager now |
| 02:26:35 | | 32768 |
| 02:26:35 | ljp | ibot: 32 * 1024 |
| 02:27:31 | Bala | anyone know if there a way to save an QCanvas to PNG ? even the parts of the canvas that arent visible on the the QCanvasView.. |
| 02:27:50 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
| 02:28:37 | nishi | you guys are swell !! |
| 02:29:04 | nishi | hey why is the font of the onscreen kbd smaller than the Sharp ROM ? Is there another font I can use ? |
| 02:32:20 | ljp | default in opie is a jumpx input, or handwritting |
| 02:35:36 | nishi | is date/time hosed ? |
| 02:36:47 | BZFlag | nishi: date/time is lost on hard reset. |
| 02:37:03 | nishi | i cant get the World Map |
| 02:37:06 | BZFlag | likes the hmmm multikey? |
| 02:37:30 | nishi | Also there is no USB-TCP/IP support yet right ? |
| 02:38:29 | nishi | how do I install new packages ? |
| 02:38:38 | nishi | I opened the package manager |
| 02:38:41 | nishi | and see feeds there |
| 02:38:50 | nishi | so I just click on the apps I want to install ? |
| 02:40:06 | Onyx4 | nishi you go into preferences first, and select "SD" to be default install and check "link to root" |
| 02:40:13 | Onyx4 | then install the applications you need extra yes |
| 02:41:18 | nishi | ok now is there USB-TCP/IP support yet ? |
| 02:41:28 | nishi | I don't have a wireless LAN card |
| 02:41:35 | nishi | :(( |
| 02:41:56 | Onyx4 | nishi: you can install opie-keyboard if you want something a bit larger for keyboard I think |
| 02:42:05 | Onyx4 | nishi: or use jump-x it's awesome |
| 02:42:15 | Onyx4 | nishi: usb works |
| 02:42:37 | Onyx4 | nishi: just plug in your Z , set your desktop to ip 192.168.129.200 , go into opie settings, security and put the right IP |
| 02:44:57 | djk-hw | Onyx4: you got jump-x to be useful? I tried and got frustrated |
| 02:45:32 | Onyx4 | it takes some time to get used to it, but the keys are slightly larger and layout supposed to be optimal for speed |
| 02:45:49 | Onyx4 | but I use keyboard whenever I need intensive typing anyway |
| 02:45:52 | Onyx4 | the real keyboard i mean |
| 02:48:00 | djk-hw | real keyboard is great take notes faster in meetings than anybody else ;-) |
| 02:50:46 | nishi2 | hello again ... my connection was dropped agaon |
| 02:50:48 | nishi2 | again |
| 02:51:08 | nishi2 | so I was asking whether USB-TCP/IP is implemented yet or not ? |
| 02:51:32 | nishi2 | and the world map from the clock setting app doesn't show up and it locks the clock app |
| 02:51:43 | Onyx4 | nishi2: it's implemented |
| 02:51:46 | Onyx4 | nishi2: just plug in your Z , set your desktop to ip 192.168.129.200 , go into opie settings, security and put the right IP |
| 02:52:13 | nishi2 | also the screen seems flicker a bit ... it seems dimmer than Sharp .. |
| 02:52:16 | nishi2 | ok |
| 02:52:27 | Onyx4 | did you get light&power? |
| 02:52:37 | nishi2 | yes |
| 02:52:39 | Onyx4 | s/get/check/ |
| 02:53:15 | nishi2 | maybe it isnt :) maybe its just my eyes |
| 02:53:36 | Onyx4 | probably or the color set of opie |
| 02:53:59 | nishi2 | anyways before I can connect to the net via USB (cradle) --> laptop (running CCProxy) ---> internet, I need to set USB-TCP/IP service |
| 02:54:09 | nishi2 | but I am not able to add that :( |
| 02:54:21 | nishi2 | hmm lemme try color |
| 02:57:10 | nishi2 | any clues ? |
| 02:57:28 | Onyx4 | nishi2: well did you had it working with the sharp rom? |
| 02:57:35 | Onyx4 | it's the same thing from the windows side |
| 02:57:38 | nishi2 | yes sir |
| 02:57:54 | Onyx4 | except that you need to go into tcp/ip for the usb setting and put a fixed ip , 192.168.129.200 |
| 02:58:12 | Onyx4 | eventually we'll run a dhcp server so that won't be needed |
| 02:58:37 | nishi2 | kool |
| 02:59:24 | Onyx4 | but this is stuff that we'll work on once we fix all the minor bugs people are seeing |
| 03:02:25 | nishi | back |
| 03:02:45 | nishi | so I'll have to wait for USB-TCP/IP or get a Wireless LAN card correct |
| 03:02:57 | nishi | does intellisync 1.43 work with Opie ? |
| 03:05:33 | nishi | anyone around ? |
| 03:06:06 | nadav | nishi: yes |
| 03:06:20 | nishi | does intellisync work with Opie ? |
| 03:06:33 | nadav | nishi: file transfer does |
| 03:06:37 | nadav | havent tried actually synching |
| 03:07:11 | nishi | aah not syncing yet |
| 03:07:11 | nishi | hmmm |
| 03:12:00 | nishi | okie dokey folks going for dinner |
| 03:12:04 | nishi | c ya all later |
| 03:34:51 | Wembly | how do you clear the pass 'pin' on the Z via ssh? |
| 03:38:58 | Com[Plex] | ? |
| 03:40:17 | Onyx4 | Wembly: isn't that a bug in opie that I saw recently |
| 03:40:25 | Onyx4 | like you can't clear it off the menu or something |
| 03:40:47 | Onyx4 | Wembly: might wanna look at opie.handhelds.org into "report bug" section |
| 03:42:44 | neotron_ | Com[Plex]: you looked for me earlier? |
| 03:43:17 | Com[Plex] | yeah |
| 03:43:22 | Com[Plex] | uh.. |
| 03:43:35 | Com[Plex] | I had some quaestions about IF... and I cant rememebr what they were |
| 03:43:50 | Com[Plex] | of, first. any cheat codes for IF? |
| 03:44:06 | Com[Plex] | secondly, is there a way to choose wich weaopns are being used? |
| 03:44:08 | neotron_ | no cheats no |
| 03:44:12 | neotron_ | and no |
| 03:44:25 | oGMo | oh wow |
| 03:44:30 | Neo|Laptop | it's by design |
| 03:44:34 | Com[Plex] | IE< I collete 4 levels of the normal blaster, and then I get a laser, and its down to level one laser |
| 03:44:42 | oGMo | that kanji nirvana program looks very nifty |
| 03:45:01 | Com[Plex] | doh. |
| 03:46:47 | Com[Plex] | so basically, you programmed it to start over whenever you get a different weapon type? |
| 03:46:57 | Com[Plex] | that bums me out :< |
| 03:47:14 | Neo|Laptop | I didn't make the game |
| 03:47:19 | Neo|Laptop | and no it doesn't start over |
| 03:47:22 | Neo|Laptop | it switches |
| 03:47:29 | Neo|Laptop | adds one to that weapon type and switches |
| 03:47:39 | Neo|Laptop | get another one and that one is upgraded and switched to |
| 03:47:54 | Neo|Laptop | personally I would have added the ability to switch weapons |
| 03:51:35 | Speedy2 | re |
| 03:55:25 | Com[Plex] | oooh.. who wrote it? |
| 03:55:42 | Com[Plex] | any way you could encourage the author to add that option in? |
| 03:55:43 | Neo|Laptop | Xen Games |
| 03:55:53 | Neo|Laptop | I already talked to him about it |
| 03:56:03 | Com[Plex] | how difficult must it be to make the mail button a switch weapon key? :> |
| 03:56:08 | Com[Plex] | oh |
| 03:56:52 | Com[Plex] | is there any way to download updated versions from eongames? - I also bought bustem. - not that I really expect any updates for it... but - well.. just asking |
| 03:57:21 | Com[Plex] | bustem also rules, but the editor is crap. |
| 03:57:45 | Com[Plex] | I was going to edit a stack of custom levels, but its like.. you can only edit exsisting levels.. |
| 03:58:06 | Com[Plex] | oh well. the game is cool enough anyway |
| 03:59:39 | TheMasterMind1 | hey |
| 03:59:42 | TheMasterMind1 | damimt |
| 03:59:47 | TheMasterMind1 | speedy?! |
| 03:59:51 | TheMasterMind1 | where art thou |
| 03:59:55 | TheMasterMind1 | what's up everyone |
| 04:00:00 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone still alive? |
| 04:02:21 | Fatbum | did i miss the release party? |
| 04:02:33 | | somebody said oz was see openzaurus or http://OpenZaurus.SourceForge.net/ |
| 04:02:33 | Fatbum | ibot oz |
| 04:02:38 | TheMasterMind1 | well |
| 04:02:47 | Fatbum | guess not |
| 04:02:49 | TheMasterMind1 | there's a new unofficial unstable optimized release |
| 04:02:53 | TheMasterMind1 | that works very very well |
| 04:03:03 | Fatbum | how recent? |
| 04:03:06 | TheMasterMind1 | its more stable than 2.9.5.5 |
| 04:03:08 | TheMasterMind1 | by a lot |
| 04:03:10 | TheMasterMind1 | Fatbum: few hours |
| 04:03:16 | Fatbum | cool hit me wik it |
| 04:03:21 | Fatbum | i need usbnet tho |
| 04:03:23 | Fatbum | like bad |
| 04:03:29 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/unofficial/unstable/optimized/ |
| 04:03:31 | Fatbum | cuz i dont have my cf eth card until monday |
| 04:03:33 | TheMasterMind1 | you can either update from feed |
| 04:03:35 | Fatbum | and needs my apps |
| 04:03:37 | TheMasterMind1 | or use the initrd |
| 04:03:46 | TheMasterMind1 | usb networking works fine |
| 04:03:50 | TheMasterMind1 | its tested |
| 04:03:56 | Fatbum | in the network app even? |
| 04:04:08 | br33zy | hey guys |
| 04:04:08 | Fatbum | guesses no |
| 04:04:13 | TheMasterMind1 | it should autoset the ip to 192.168.129.201 |
| 04:04:14 | Fatbum | yo br33zy |
| 04:04:16 | TheMasterMind1 | when you put it in the cradle |
| 04:04:22 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: hi |
| 04:04:26 | br33zy | has anybody tried a compact flash to pcmcia converter and a wireless pcmcia card on a zaurus? |
| 04:04:29 | Fatbum | oh yeah they were hookin up the hotplug shiznatto |
| 04:04:33 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: nope |
| 04:04:38 | TheMasterMind1 | br33zy: are you about to? |
| 04:04:45 | br33zy | TheMasterMind1: yeah.. would it work? |
| 04:04:50 | br33zy | not about to |
| 04:04:52 | br33zy | just thinking |
| 04:04:53 | TheMasterMind1 | i would say yes |
| 04:04:58 | br33zy | cool |
| 04:04:59 | TheMasterMind1 | since pcmcia drivers handle cf |
| 04:05:07 | br33zy | it would be bulky though, huh? |
| 04:05:21 | Fatbum | br33zy do you have the converters? |
| 04:05:30 | br33zy | Fatbum: nah.. i know you can get them pretty cheap though |
| 04:05:32 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, very bulky |
| 04:05:56 | br33zy | heh |
| 04:06:12 | TheMasterMind1 | where is speedy2? |
| 04:06:13 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
| 04:06:13 | Fatbum | any1 have an a300? |
| 04:06:15 | br33zy | TheMasterMind1: do you know where i can get a cheap (working) compact flash 802.11b card for the zaurus? |
| 04:06:22 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 04:06:24 | | wifi is probably see wireless or get either a wcf12 linksys for $62 shipped from buy.com (nice small card, well supported, but not too great on battery) or the socket low power wlan for 160 something plus shipping also on buy.com (great battery usage, needs special drivers) |
| 04:06:24 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot wifi |
| 04:06:25 | Fatbum | br33zy ebay! |
| 04:06:31 | TheMasterMind1 | $62 shipped on buy.com |
| 04:06:36 | Neo|Laptop | Com[Plex]: it's easy. that's not the point. Point is that the current behavior is the intended behavior |
| 04:06:39 | br33zy | Fatbum: been there.. not too much today |
| 04:06:51 | Fatbum | br33zy i got a ambicom for 65 with shipping |
| 04:06:54 | br33zy | i see |
| 04:06:59 | br33zy | 62 on buy.com |
| 04:06:59 | br33zy | thanks |
| 04:07:02 | TheMasterMind1 | so, anyone else want to update to the unstable unofficial fully optimized oz build |
| 04:07:06 | TheMasterMind1 | it runs great |
| 04:07:09 | br33zy | (let me get a zaurus first, lol) |
| 04:07:15 | Fatbum | ;) |
| 04:07:20 | TheMasterMind1 | opie and qt are fully optmized and are very responsive |
| 04:07:20 | Neo|Laptop | Com[Plex]: as for updates, either use the link you got when purchasing (or download from handango if purchased from there) |
| 04:07:27 | TheMasterMind1 | and the latest opie has shitloads of new stuff |
| 04:07:27 | br33zy | sharp still hasnt sent me anything back after talking to Sniper and resending him my beta |
| 04:07:29 | Fatbum | TheMasterMind1 i have one thats like three days old |
| 04:07:30 | br33zy | this sucks.. |
| 04:07:50 | Fatbum | br33zy beta???? zaurus? |
| 04:07:55 | TheMasterMind1 | Fatbum: lots of stuff has changed.. |
| 04:08:01 | TheMasterMind1 | and this one is fully optimized |
| 04:08:04 | br33zy | Fatbum: no no, beta application for zaurus |
| 04:08:05 | TheMasterMind1 | and using yesterday's qte snapshot |
| 04:08:10 | Fatbum | leeter than milk |
| 04:08:28 | Neo|Laptop | moves upstairs. |
| 04:08:37 | Fatbum | nobodys got an a300? |
| 04:08:40 | Fatbum | i want on |
| 04:08:43 | Fatbum | or do i? |
| 04:08:45 | | br33zy: excuse me? |
| 04:08:45 | br33zy | ibot, your wrong, its 62.12 |
| 04:08:51 | br33zy | cant except it huh |
| 04:09:03 | | somebody said a300 was the new, smaller Linux based Zaurus for the Japanese market. It doesn't have a keyboard or a CF slot. CPU is a 200 MHz XScale. More information at http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/020624.html or it sucks because it uses Xscale or a pxa210 |
| 04:09:03 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot a300 |
| 04:09:16 | Fatbum | oh yea |
| 04:09:55 | br33zy | ibot is a300 bad? |
| 04:09:59 | br33zy | lol |
| 04:10:06 | Fatbum | yea id say that sucks |
| 04:10:11 | br33zy | ibot message for warmi: hi, im testing this stuff |
| 04:10:13 | Fatbum | like....its a sony clie |
| 04:10:18 | Fatbum | :-P |
| 04:10:19 | br33zy | lol |
| 04:10:29 | br33zy | moo |
| 04:10:45 | Fatbum | i almost got a nr70v, but as soon as i took a step back and said to myself...camera....LINUX i was like <insert w00t> LINUX! |
| 04:10:50 | br33zy | anybody here went to toorcon today? |
| 04:12:13 | Fatbum | a300s got a speaker tho |
| 04:13:01 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 04:13:44 | Fatbum | any1 seen that zaurus mpeg recorder? |
| 04:13:53 | Fatbum | that things tight |
| 04:14:00 | Fatbum | like 2 hours on a 64 mb sd |
| 04:14:11 | Fatbum | then you slam it into your z and blammo! |
| 04:14:17 | Fatbum | got yourself a pirated movie |
| 04:14:54 | Com[Plex] | ? |
| 04:15:01 | br33zy | lol |
| 04:15:05 | br33zy | im writing my bookreport with cat |
| 04:15:06 | Com[Plex] | whats it called? |
| 04:15:10 | Com[Plex] | is it in zsi ? |
| 04:15:25 | Fatbum | Com[Plex] you talkin to me? |
| 04:15:34 | Fatbum | br33zy: LOL |
| 04:15:45 | Com[Plex] | ys |
| 04:15:51 | Fatbum | link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057687873 |
| 04:18:49 | Com[Plex] | oh that thing |
| 04:19:03 | Fatbum | dealcat.com is on top of the 256mb sd card situation |
| 04:19:07 | Fatbum | 119.99 w/ ship |
| 04:21:34 | Fatbum | any1 know which wacom tablet is supported by kernel 2.4.19? |
| 04:26:09 | br33zy | finished my book report |
| 04:26:24 | Fatbum | cat br33zy is a lameo |
| 04:26:36 | Fatbum | goes and hides |
| 04:26:38 | Fatbum | i mean sleep |
| 04:26:40 | Fatbum | sleeps |
| 04:26:44 | Fatbum | is asleep |
| 04:30:37 | br33zy | rm -rf fatbum-sleep |
| 04:30:58 | | it has been said that howto is at http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/ or see xcompiler for cross compiler setup |
| 04:30:58 | badalex | ibot howto |
| 04:34:23 | fatbum-sleep | hey does the z store dled ipks? |
| 04:36:06 | fatbum-sleep | yes/no? |
| 04:36:43 | NeoTron | how do you download the ipks? |
| 04:36:57 | fatbum-sleep | opikg |
| 04:37:02 | fatbum-sleep | oipkg |
| 04:37:14 | fatbum-sleep | course esta too late ahora |
| 04:37:17 | fatbum-sleep | ;-P |
| 04:39:31 | fatbum-sleep | i stepped on the power cord my z just crashed into the fuckin ground while flashing! |
| 04:39:41 | fatbum-sleep | battery spilt to the ground! |
| 04:39:43 | fatbum-sleep | eep |
| 04:39:47 | | fatbum-sleep: what? |
| 04:39:47 | fatbum-sleep | ibot: save me |
| 04:40:13 | TheMasterMind1 | ouch |
| 04:40:15 | TheMasterMind1 | that's gotta suck |
| 04:40:17 | TheMasterMind1 | you dumbass |
| 04:40:22 | fatbum-sleep | stupid oz |
| 04:40:33 | fatbum-sleep | well everything happened minus the battery thing |
| 04:40:40 | fatbum-sleep | the cover just flew off |
| 04:40:45 | fatbum-sleep | its still flashing |
| 04:40:47 | TheMasterMind1 | i see' |
| 04:40:54 | fatbum-sleep | last time i diss my carpet |
| 04:41:43 | fatbum-sleep | yo when are we gonna get the backlight on b4 the boot logo anime |
| 04:41:45 | fatbum-sleep | ? |
| 04:42:15 | fatbum-sleep | because thats thouroughly impressive |
| 04:42:36 | TheMasterMind1 | that's been fixed |
| 04:42:40 | TheMasterMind1 | it'll be released soon |
| 04:42:42 | fatbum-sleep | um nope |
| 04:42:45 | fatbum-sleep | oh ok |
| 04:42:47 | fatbum-sleep | yay |
| 04:42:48 | fatbum-sleep | hawyee |
| 04:45:03 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot message for speedy2: can you please msg or email (oz@themastermind1.net) some links,docs etc on two things 1) documentation that says the zaurus IR can send up to 30 feet 2) stuff i can use to program a proper remote application for the Zaurus to control TVs etc.. you mentioned it needs to be in ASKIR mode etc |
| 04:45:29 | fatbum-sleep | dude this unreleased ver of oz is the woot |
| 04:45:36 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 04:45:37 | TheMasterMind1 | its great |
| 04:45:38 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 04:46:01 | TheMasterMind1 | if you find any bugs, let us know |
| 04:46:48 | fatbum-sleep | advanced fm still gave me a crash on holdown the stylus |
| 04:47:03 | fatbum-sleep | weird |
| 04:47:18 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 04:47:38 | TheMasterMind1 | inside advancedfm? |
| 04:47:42 | TheMasterMind1 | or on the advancedfm icon |
| 04:48:02 | fatbum-sleep | inside |
| 04:48:14 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 04:48:15 | TheMasterMind1 | works for me |
| 04:48:25 | fatbum-sleep | well ill be woooot |
| 04:49:06 | TheMasterMind1 | ah |
| 04:49:08 | TheMasterMind1 | it happened ot me too |
| 04:49:15 | TheMasterMind1 | were you in the sd dir? |
| 04:49:19 | TheMasterMind1 | /mtn/card? |
| 04:49:39 | TheMasterMind1 | aha |
| 04:49:43 | TheMasterMind1 | long click on a file screws up |
| 04:49:44 | TheMasterMind1 | pos |
| 04:50:23 | br33zy | /mnt/themastermind |
| 04:50:27 | br33zy | ls /dev/mastermind |
| 04:50:30 | br33zy | mastermind |
| 04:50:35 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 04:50:38 | br33zy | i dunno |
| 04:50:44 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 04:50:47 | fatbum-sleep | hehe |
| 04:53:48 | TheMasterMind1 | is away: sleeeeeeeeeeep. |
| 05:14:16 | | sniper was last seen on #zaurus 1 days, 7 hours, 31 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying: im outta ehre [Fri Sep 27 22:42:21 2002] |
| 05:14:16 | jbardin | ibot seen sniper |
| 05:14:20 | jbardin | hmm |
| 05:14:22 | jbardin | anyone awake? |
| 05:35:23 | nishi2 | hello folks |
| 06:21:12 | br33zy | i gtg |
| 06:21:14 | br33zy | later guys |
| 06:21:15 | br33zy | moo |
| 06:38:09 | SuperDuperShant | anyone using the netgear MA701 |
| 06:39:42 | SuperDuperShant | anyone using the netgear MA701 |
| 06:44:05 | W|GGL|T | is away: I'm busy or asleep |
| 07:14:29 | scanline_Z | .quit |
| 07:14:39 | scanline_Z | ack |
| 07:14:41 | hardwire | heh |
| 07:14:48 | scanline | tiny keyboard |
| 07:15:02 | hardwire | chubby digits |
| 07:15:28 | hardwire | time to sleep |
| 07:15:34 | scanline | not really.. more clumsy than chubby :P |
| 07:16:00 | NeoTron | is away: sleep |
| 09:53:48 | | well, xcompiler is see xcompile :) |
| 09:53:48 | Ibz | ibot xcompiler |
| 09:53:52 | | xcompile is just get ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/toolchain/cross-2.95.3.tar.bz2 , un-tarbz2 in /usr/local/arm and set my path to /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/arm and you're set! much better than the zauruszone howto setup (faster, cleaner, newer, works with more source) |
| 09:53:52 | Ibz | ibot xcompile |
| 09:54:19 | | thanks Ibz :) |
| 09:54:19 | Ibz | ibot botsnack |
| 11:42:26 | scanline | is away: ZzzZzzZzz.... |
| 11:50:29 | George- | hey Cloudchaser |
| 11:54:09 | angry | hi Cloudchaser, George- |
| 11:55:59 | Cloudchaser | hi |
| 11:58:23 | ljp | boo! |
| 12:04:37 | Cloudchaser | 'mornin llp! |
| 12:04:43 | Cloudchaser | er ljp that is! |
| 12:05:25 | ljp | hi cloudy |
| 12:36:58 | George- | hey prpplague |
| 12:37:15 | Dataken | what does xcompile do ? |
| 12:49:59 | ljp | allows you to sompile arm binaries on an x86 machine |
| 12:50:09 | ljp | compile, not sompile |
| 12:52:54 | prpplague | George-: morning |
| 12:53:54 | prpplague | Dataken: xcompile is short for cross-compile, meaning you are using one machine such as an x86 box to compile binaries for another such as an arm |
| 13:11:48 | nishi | good day folks |
| 13:12:02 | nadav | hey nishi |
| 13:13:16 | nishi | hey nadav wsup |
| 13:14:43 | nishi | is this slow today |
| 13:15:55 | nadav | ? |
| 13:16:22 | nishi | i dont see anyone talking ... a whois is taking ages |
| 13:16:52 | nadav | well... people aren't talking :P |
| 13:17:00 | nishi | :) |
| 13:17:33 | nishi | where can I find systemtime |
| 13:18:52 | nishi | has anyone seen this with the latest rom (OZ) from yesterday : When I terminate Opie, the LCD shows tonnes of vertical lines and appears as if it is getting fried !! ... I am scared this may screw up some pixekls |
| 13:19:23 | nishi | s/pixekls/pixels |
| 13:19:27 | nadav | yeah |
| 13:19:31 | nadav | that happened to me yesterday |
| 13:19:56 | nadav | and today when i unsuspended it seemed like there was nothing installed :P |
| 13:20:00 | nishi | yep ... whats the solution ... don't terminate Opie ? The Sharp ROM doesn;t do that ... its smooth on the LCD |
| 13:20:06 | nadav | i don't know. |
| 13:20:15 | nishi | I think I am going back to the Sharp ROM |
| 13:20:31 | nadav | i might also |
| 13:20:36 | nishi | till things are ironed out ... OZ is great ... but I dont wanna take chances |
| 13:20:40 | nadav | exactly |
| 13:20:48 | nadav | I think i'll stick with it for today |
| 13:20:54 | nishi | hey how does one go back to the sharp rom ? |
| 13:21:17 | nishi | do I have to do all that stuff again ... press C and D on the keyboard together , then press hard reset etc etc |
| 13:21:18 | prpplague | solution: don't use opie, lol, use x |
| 13:21:24 | nishi | hahah :) |
| 13:21:35 | nadav | yes |
| 13:21:45 | nadav | do all the stuff again with the sharp rom on your CF |
| 13:22:08 | nishi | can I not run the .exe from the sharp webpage directly |
| 13:22:21 | nadav | uh |
| 13:22:23 | nadav | i've never done that |
| 13:22:41 | nishi | there are files to update the rom ... with .exe files |
| 13:22:55 | nadav | i wouldn't trust that :D |
| 13:23:07 | Cloudchaser | no you can't do that coming from oz to sharp rom |
| 13:23:23 | Cloudchaser | you have to get the file, put it on cf |
| 13:23:27 | nishi | ok so basically, I first get the 3 files onto my CF card via a card reader |
| 13:23:29 | Cloudchaser | and do the c_d thing |
| 13:23:30 | nishi | hi cc |
| 13:23:33 | Cloudchaser | hi |
| 13:23:45 | nishi | then press C and D together |
| 13:23:46 | nadav | nishi: there's only one in the case of sharp's rom |
| 13:23:54 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:23:54 | nishi | oh |
| 13:23:54 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: that shutdown thing is normal |
| 13:23:59 | TheMasterMind1 | it happens on the sharp rom also |
| 13:24:33 | nishi | dont remember seeing it ... looks as if my lcd is frying up and will leave a couple of pixels screwed |
| 13:24:39 | nishi | hi mm |
| 13:24:43 | nishi | good day |
| 13:24:46 | TheMasterMind1 | nah, its just weird that way |
| 13:24:47 | nishi | r u in the US too ? |
| 13:24:50 | TheMasterMind1 | doesn't messanything up |
| 13:24:54 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: yea, near DC |
| 13:25:07 | TheMasterMind1 | other than that, any bugs etc? |
| 13:25:07 | nishi | ok ... i'm near SF |
| 13:25:19 | TheMasterMind1 | how do you like the new opie stuff |
| 13:25:30 | nishi | mmm other than that .... yes a few |
| 13:25:34 | Cloudchaser | TheMasterMind1: you did't test it to see if there were bugs? |
| 13:25:34 | nishi | its awesome |
| 13:25:40 | TheMasterMind1 | Cloudchaser: i did |
| 13:25:42 | nishi | cc :)) |
| 13:25:46 | TheMasterMind1 | but its not possible to find everything |
| 13:25:50 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: what else |
| 13:25:55 | TheMasterMind1 | tell so i can fix |
| 13:25:56 | nishi | i cant get the world map from the clock page |
| 13:26:02 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, that's known |
| 13:26:06 | nadav | yep |
| 13:26:06 | nishi | want me to file a report ? |
| 13:26:09 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 13:26:10 | TheMasterMind1 | just tell me |
| 13:26:12 | nishi | k |
| 13:26:50 | nishi | entering an alarm sometime hangs the Z ... you have to hard reset |
| 13:27:04 | nishi | no buttons work suspend etc |
| 13:27:09 | nishi | is that known ? |
| 13:27:14 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm no |
| 13:27:15 | TheMasterMind1 | lemme tet that |
| 13:27:16 | TheMasterMind1 | test |
| 13:27:20 | nishi | yeah ... |
| 13:27:26 | nishi | let me detail the steps |
| 13:27:31 | TheMasterMind1 | where do you set an alarm? |
| 13:27:44 | nishi | 1 sec |
| 13:28:09 | TheMasterMind1 | ah ok |
| 13:28:11 | TheMasterMind1 | i see |
| 13:28:13 | TheMasterMind1 | it crashed |
| 13:28:14 | TheMasterMind1 | gotcha |
| 13:28:17 | TheMasterMind1 | what else |
| 13:30:05 | nishi | yeah |
| 13:30:14 | nishi | i cant repeat it though now :))) |
| 13:30:17 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 13:30:38 | nishi | is there a missing beam/receive icon ? |
| 13:30:44 | TheMasterMind1 | where |
| 13:30:47 | nishi | or is it a wip ? |
| 13:30:53 | nishi | i don't see it |
| 13:31:00 | TheMasterMind1 | huh? |
| 13:31:10 | nishi | wip - work in progress |
| 13:32:07 | prpplague | anyone else here feel that "Radio Shack" specificaly hires jerks and jackass's to work behind the counter? |
| 13:32:13 | nishi | onyx told me to install systemtime instead of netsystemtime |
| 13:32:15 | nishi | hahhaa |
| 13:32:17 | | well, a300 is the new, smaller Linux based Zaurus for the Japanese market. It doesn't have a keyboard or a CF slot. CPU is a 200 MHz XScale. More information at http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/020624.html or it sucks because it uses Xscale or a pxa210 |
| 13:32:17 | Ibz | ibot a300 |
| 13:32:21 | nishi | where can I find that |
| 13:33:29 | prpplague | nishi: in japan |
| 13:33:38 | TheMasterMind1 | you need to change your feed |
| 13:33:44 | TheMasterMind1 | in software, in settings |
| 13:34:11 | nishi | i have some files on CF (from the Sharp ROM) ... basically IPKs ... i cant seem to install any pf the ipks ... they give me errors and end up with panik ! |
| 13:34:21 | nishi | s/pf/of |
| 13:35:01 | nadav | what ipks and what errors? |
| 13:35:16 | nishi | i dont have a wireless LAN or other LAN card so cant get to a feed right now ... my only connection is either the USB port or connecting my card reader to my laptop and downloading the files and then transferring them to the Z |
| 13:35:31 | nishi | ok .. trying to install opie_mplayer2 ipk |
| 13:35:35 | nishi | from CF |
| 13:36:47 | Ibz | TheMasterMind1: shouldn't path /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/arm for "ibot xcompile" be /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/arm-linux? |
| 13:41:19 | chouimat | prpplague: hey I work for RadioShack |
| 13:41:36 | chouimat | prpplague: btw it's a joke |
| 13:41:42 | TheMasterMind1 | Ibz: its just /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin |
| 13:41:47 | | xcompile is just get ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/toolchain/cross-2.95.3.tar.bz2 , un-tarbz2 in /usr/local/arm and set my path to /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/arm and you're set! much better than the zauruszone howto setup (faster, cleaner, newer, works with more source) |
| 13:41:47 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot xcompile |
| 13:41:53 | TheMasterMind1 | oops |
| 13:41:57 | | TheMasterMind1: I forgot xcompile |
| 13:41:57 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot forget xcompile |
| 13:42:28 | | OK, TheMasterMind1. |
| 13:42:28 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot xcompile is just get ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/toolchain/cross-2.95.3.tar.bz2 , un-tarbz2 in /usr/local/arm and set PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin and you're set! much better than the zauruszone howto setup (faster, cleaner, newer, works with more source) |
| 13:42:57 | Ibz | TheMasterMind1: botsnack |
| 13:43:25 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 13:43:26 | prpplague | chouimat: lol, i was about to say you must be senior management since the reset of the employees are border line mentally handicapped |
| 13:43:29 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/unofficial/unstable/optimized/feed/ |
| 13:43:31 | TheMasterMind1 | get ipks from there |
| 13:43:40 | nishi | gotcha |
| 13:43:44 | TheMasterMind1 | opie stuff, like opie-citytime and opie-systemtime |
| 13:43:49 | TheMasterMind1 | and there's a few other things too |
| 13:43:53 | nishi | hmmm |
| 13:44:00 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe, at 28 I will probably be on the floor |
| 13:44:32 | prpplague | chouimat: i get so mad everytime i _have_ to go there |
| 13:45:32 | nishi | ok I am installing Opie irc from Advanced FM (file is on CF) ... i do "Run cmd with output" and enter "ipkg install ope_irc...ipk" ... it runs fine and says its installed but I don't see the icon in applications |
| 13:45:42 | chouimat | prpplague: go in every electronic store and they all hire jerks :) the only place I saw a competent salesman was when my brother bought a photo kit |
| 13:45:48 | prpplague | chouimat: yesterday i went to get a 7805 voltage regulator, as i walked in the door the guys said "yo! you need a cell phone man, let me show you what we got |
| 13:46:04 | nishi | nor can I get opie_irc to list when I type op and tab in a shell |
| 13:46:07 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: you shouldn't use advancedfm |
| 13:46:09 | chouimat | prpplague: ouch |
| 13:46:14 | nishi | ok |
| 13:46:18 | nishi | not good ? |
| 13:46:18 | TheMasterMind1 | you should click on it in the documents tab |
| 13:46:28 | TheMasterMind1 | or hold click and do software |
| 13:46:32 | TheMasterMind1 | but, if you already installed |
| 13:46:33 | chouimat | brb need to reboot |
| 13:46:34 | TheMasterMind1 | just restart opie |
| 13:46:37 | prpplague | chouimat: then he practically wouldn't check me out untill i looked at some cell phones |
| 13:46:40 | nishi | oh |
| 13:46:44 | TheMasterMind1 | go to settings, shutdown, reboot opie |
| 13:46:57 | TheMasterMind1 | if you do it via software app, you don't need to |
| 13:47:02 | TheMasterMind1 | mjn3: sup |
| 13:47:07 | TheMasterMind1 | mjn3: do you have a zaurus? |
| 13:47:46 | mjn3 | TheMasterMind1: not much. just getting started. and yes, a 5500 |
| 13:50:08 | mjn3 | TheMasterMind1: i was playing around with the serial cable yesterday. hooked up an old HP 200LX as a serial terminal |
| 13:50:19 | Fatbum | dude i miss my 200lx |
| 13:50:24 | Fatbum | that thing was fuckin tite |
| 13:53:18 | TheMasterMind1 | mjn3: you should try the new initrd,bin, is great |
| 13:53:25 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/unofficial/unstable/optimized/ |
| 13:53:30 | TheMasterMind1 | fully optimized opie and qte |
| 13:53:56 | TheMasterMind1 | or you can update from the feed |
| 13:54:02 | TheMasterMind1 | http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/unofficial/unstable/optimized/feed/ |
| 13:54:09 | mjn3 | TheMasterMind1: thanks. was wondering if it was out yet. i'll try it today |
| 13:54:41 | TheMasterMind1 | this is an unofficial one.. the official one kergoth's going to put out will have fully non-root opie |
| 13:55:34 | mjn3 | i'm downloading it now |
| 13:56:07 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: any other bugs |
| 13:56:14 | nishi | no email client for opie ? |
| 13:56:22 | TheMasterMind1 | there is |
| 13:56:22 | TheMasterMind1 | opie-mail2 or something |
| 13:56:26 | nishi | i am getting to like oz :)) |
| 13:56:39 | TheMasterMind1 | [ ] opie-mail2_0.0.9-200..> 28-Sep-2002 19:15 205k |
| 13:56:39 | TheMasterMind1 | [ ] opie-mailapplet_0.0...> 28-Sep-2002 19:15 12k |
| 13:56:47 | nishi | sync and file transfer running good |
| 13:56:52 | nishi | oh kool |
| 13:57:33 | nishi | let me install a few apps media player codecs keypebble mail client |
| 13:57:34 | nishi | brb |
| 13:57:48 | nishi | will qpe apps work MM ? |
| 13:58:39 | TheMasterMind1 | they should |
| 13:59:07 | TheMasterMind1 | give me names of apps that don't install |
| 13:59:09 | TheMasterMind1 | ipks rather |
| 13:59:27 | nishi | ok |
| 14:00:19 | nishi | can i install on cf ? |
| 14:05:15 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 14:05:21 | TheMasterMind1 | are you in the software app? |
| 14:05:50 | nishi | dude now barebones :) |
| 14:06:04 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 14:06:11 | nishi | trying to install konqueror and mediaplayer from the terminal as I was getting errors |
| 14:06:29 | nishi | for konqueror, it says ... |
| 14:07:07 | nishi | cannot satisfy dependancies qpe-base=1.5.0 try ipkg update |
| 14:07:33 | TheMasterMind1 | ah |
| 14:07:37 | TheMasterMind1 | do -force-depends |
| 14:07:37 | nishi | try with force-deprnds option |
| 14:07:41 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 14:07:43 | nishi | yo |
| 14:07:43 | TheMasterMind1 | then it will work |
| 14:07:49 | TheMasterMind1 | cuz opie provides qpe-base |
| 14:07:53 | nishi | ok |
| 14:09:40 | nishi | think its doing it |
| 14:10:14 | nishi | seg fault ... |
| 14:10:30 | nishi | no space on device |
| 14:10:41 | nishi | oh it may be going to mtdram |
| 14:11:38 | mjn3 | TheMasterMind1: i thought kergoth was going to fix /dev and put it on a ramfs to avoid flash writes for dev permission changes (say from logins) |
| 14:13:06 | TMM1[Z] | cool |
| 14:13:27 | TMM1[Z] | hello? |
| 14:14:33 | TMM1[Z] | am i here? |
| 14:14:39 | chouimat | hello TMM1[Z] |
| 14:14:39 | | TMM1[Z]? |
| 14:14:39 | TMM1[Z] | ibot |
| 14:14:49 | TMM1[Z] | aha |
| 14:14:54 | TMM1[Z] | so i am |
| 14:15:05 | TMM1[Z] | im on the Z |
| 14:15:27 | chouimat | TMM1[Z]!foobar@user-11202j1.dsl.mindspring.com: no |
| 14:15:33 | nadav | heh |
| 14:16:46 | prpplague | chouimat: when did you sneak back in? |
| 14:17:39 | TMM1[Z] | hmm |
| 14:17:43 | chouimat | after i rebooted :) |
| 14:18:09 | prpplague | chouimat: ohh |
| 14:18:14 | TMM1[Z] | so anyone else trying out the new optimized oz? |
| 14:18:57 | nishi | me |
| 14:19:05 | ljp | me me me me me |
| 14:19:09 | prpplague | TMM1[Z]: not till later tonight |
| 14:19:27 | TMM1[Z] | ok |
| 14:19:35 | prpplague | ljp: hows the gpe stuff going? |
| 14:19:52 | TMM1[Z] | hah |
| 14:20:11 | chouimat | hmm my tv tuner doesn't work with video4linux2 drivers can't change channel :( |
| 14:20:52 | TMM1[Z] | chouimat: be happy it shows one channel |
| 14:21:34 | chouimat | TMM1[Z]: used to work, but video4linux1 doesn't support grabbing and previewing |
| 14:21:41 | prpplague | chouimat: i use xaw-tv, seems to work nicely enough |
| 14:23:16 | TMM1[Z] | sounds like you're better off with v4l1 |
| 14:33:03 | nishi | installing/removal of apps not smooth yet :( |
| 14:33:10 | nishi | its pretty confusing |
| 14:33:54 | nishi | more on this later ... gotta take care of a few errands now ... nuff of Z for a few hours |
| 14:34:12 | nishi | i tried installing konqueror (on mtdram) and now my mtdram is out of space .. |
| 14:34:17 | prpplague | never enough Z |
| 14:34:17 | nishi | how do I make space on it ? |
| 14:34:22 | nishi | u bet |
| 14:34:26 | prpplague | rm -rf * |
| 14:34:41 | prpplague | just kidding, don't do that |
| 14:34:46 | nishi | hahaha yep |
| 14:35:34 | nishi | off guys ... I will talk to u all later |
| 14:35:41 | nishi | hv a good day Z'ing |
| 14:48:48 | W|GGL|T | is back (gone 08:04:41) |
| 14:48:53 | cod | hi > all |
| 14:52:08 | TMM1[Z] | hi |
| 14:58:09 | cod | hi kergoth, got a min ? |
| 14:58:32 | cod | sorry for interruption ... |
| 15:07:24 | TMM1[Z] | cod whats up? |
| 15:10:35 | anseror | wow, big opie update yesterday. |
| 15:14:42 | nishi | hello again |
| 15:15:04 | nishi | cc which is the one file I would need to go back to Sharp ROM from OZ ? |
| 15:15:50 | nishi | MM u there ? |
| 15:16:15 | nishi | brb |
| 15:16:17 | W|GGL|T | ospack? |
| 15:16:46 | TheMasterMind1 | yes, ospack |
| 15:17:49 | chouimat | back |
| 15:17:52 | prpplague | chouimat: re |
| 15:18:17 | chouimat | prpplague: fixed my tv problem |
| 15:18:26 | prpplague | chouimat: what was it? |
| 15:18:41 | chouimat | prpplague: ditched v4l2 |
| 15:18:49 | prpplague | chouimat: ahh |
| 15:20:03 | nishi | mm1 hi again |
| 15:20:33 | nishi | when i try to intall an app frm the documents tab by dble clking on it |
| 15:21:02 | nishi | it doesnt install ... trying opiekeypebble |
| 15:22:00 | W|GGL|T | whoa |
| 15:22:08 | W|GGL|T | oops |
| 15:22:11 | W|GGL|T | wrong window |
| 15:23:11 | TheMasterMind1 | nishi: it should come up with a windows |
| 15:23:15 | TheMasterMind1 | like Install |
| 15:23:21 | TheMasterMind1 | + opie-keypebble |
| 15:23:31 | TheMasterMind1 | nothing comes up when you click it in the Docuemnts tab? |
| 15:23:31 | nishi | pkg manager ? |
| 15:23:35 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 15:23:45 | TheMasterMind1 | there'll be a little box next to the package name |
| 15:23:47 | TheMasterMind1 | in the package manager |
| 15:23:48 | TheMasterMind1 | click it |
| 15:23:59 | TheMasterMind1 | the box on the left of the package |
| 15:24:04 | TheMasterMind1 | then press ok and it will install |
| 15:24:17 | TheMasterMind1 | you can also holdclick on the name of the package and it will let you say where you want to install to |
| 15:26:16 | nishi | yes but when I do that, it shows me smbmount under the "To install" folder |
| 15:26:21 | nishi | not opiekeypebble |
| 15:27:21 | nishi | weird |
| 15:27:32 | nishi | why it doesn't show opie_keypebble there |
| 15:31:51 | nishi | ok i gotta head off MM1 ... can we try this later ? |
| 15:32:09 | nishi | bye |
| 15:42:20 | angry | how do you set environmental variables |
| 15:44:31 | noda | export VARIABLE=value |
| 15:44:31 | noda | Type 'env' for a list of current environment variables. |
| 15:46:58 | prpplague | anyone know what region the US is for dvd players? |
| 15:48:07 | chouimat | prpplague: same as Canada :) |
| 15:48:19 | ljp | region 1 |
| 15:48:43 | prpplague | ok thanks |
| 15:48:51 | chouimat | prpplague: I don't really know my dvd have no region anymore |
| 15:59:54 | chouimat | bbl |
| 16:03:01 | extremis | wonders when a new oz will be released :) |
| 16:03:10 | hardwire | you want one? |
| 16:08:36 | ljp | its got only one problem... well two |
| 16:09:10 | hardwire | well |
| 16:09:10 | hardwire | 3 |
| 16:10:18 | extremis | what are the problems? |
| 16:10:48 | ljp | freeze when you change the date/time |
| 16:10:56 | extremis | hah |
| 16:12:36 | hardwire | heh |
| 16:12:57 | ljp | doesnt order pizza when I tell it too |
| 16:21:49 | extremis | can someone send me a rom which will prevent the zaurus from booting |
| 16:22:03 | extremis | I'm going to take it back to best buy |
| 16:22:07 | ljp | hehehhe hmmmm |
| 16:22:09 | ljp | why? |
| 16:22:51 | extremis | because its not usefull enough |
| 16:23:00 | extremis | I just wish I didn't buy all those tkc apps |
| 16:23:12 | extremis | anyone want to buy them for 50% of what I paid? |
| 16:23:32 | ljp | why do you think its not usefull enough? |
| 16:23:50 | extremis | its been sitting idle in my bag for the past 6 months |
| 16:23:56 | extremis | unless i upgrade the rom |
| 16:24:05 | extremis | then I play with it for about a week and find bugs |
| 16:24:07 | extremis | and put it back |
| 16:26:10 | nadav | extremis: what apps do you have? |
| 16:26:25 | deevee | heh |
| 16:26:48 | extremis | calendar/addressbook/paint/video/media(sound)/jabber/gallery |
| 16:26:57 | nadav | hm. |
| 16:27:02 | deevee | how could you not like your zaurus |
| 16:27:38 | extremis | the sharp rom sucks and the oz rom still hasn't taken off |
| 16:28:12 | ljp | I use both everyday |
| 16:28:15 | extremis | I'm sure I'll run opie on the new toshiba e740 |
| 16:28:19 | extremis | when it is stable |
| 16:28:24 | extremis | until then I'll have a working pda |
| 16:29:08 | ljp | both mine work very fine |
| 16:31:01 | ljp | opie?? stable?? |
| 16:48:43 | tux_mike | woo. |
| 16:48:47 | tux_mike | new phone |
| 16:52:08 | treke|home | extremis: the e740 can run linux? |
| 16:54:58 | hardwire | http://handhelds.org/scap/toland.cgi?fn=port.29830.png |
| 16:55:00 | hardwire | there is me looking at me on my z |
| 17:03:45 | prpplague | man thats a scary lookin dude.... |
| 17:04:20 | treke|home | hands hardwire a paper bag |
| 17:04:25 | treke|home | weart it in good health |
| 17:04:52 | prpplague | treke|home: i just pulled some info on the e740, doesn't look like toshiba will be supporting linux |
| 17:05:04 | treke|home | prpplague: thats what I thought |
| 17:05:09 | treke|home | prpplague: stick to hp :) |
| 17:05:22 | prpplague | and sharp? |
| 17:05:38 | treke|home | sure |
| 17:06:50 | treke|home | if your into that sort of thing |
| 17:38:50 | MarkMorga | hi ppl |
| 17:39:16 | MarkMorga | has anyone here managed to generate a ppp call using an IR port via just the console ?? |
| 17:39:24 | MarkMorga | I'd like to bypass qtopia totally |
| 17:40:07 | treke|home | MarkMorga: the ir port is represented as a serial port I think, so however you would do it should work |
| 17:40:22 | MarkMorga | trek thanks;) |
| 17:40:30 | MarkMorga | is there a url where i can get more info |
| 17:40:40 | MarkMorga | u see i havent really got into chat scripts and pppd |
| 17:40:53 | MarkMorga | usually i just run kppp and do it manually |
| 17:41:02 | treke|home | look at linuxdoc.org |
| 17:41:04 | MarkMorga | ive just installed x11 and icewm |
| 17:41:08 | MarkMorga | thanks |
| 17:41:24 | MarkMorga | treke - you installed x on your zaurus ? |
| 17:41:43 | treke|home | MarkMorga: dont have a zaurus. Used to use X on my ipaq though |
| 17:41:58 | MarkMorga | ah ok |
| 17:42:10 | MarkMorga | i just wanted to know with my icewm - could i install other themes |
| 17:42:17 | MarkMorga | or are those themes only for desktops ? |
| 17:42:28 | treke|home | yes. dont remember how though |
| 17:42:46 | treke|home | I only used icwm for a few days |
| 17:43:05 | MarkMorga | really ? did you use another window manager? |
| 17:43:39 | treke|home | a few of them |
| 17:44:22 | treke|home | ion was my favorite, but matchbox is a bit more Qtopia like |
| 17:45:14 | MarkMorga | i see |
| 17:45:27 | MarkMorga | is there a site for ion ? or matchbox ? |
| 17:45:40 | MarkMorga | and do i jsut install them the usual ipkg install etc...way ? |
| 17:46:03 | treke|home | they should both be in the familiar.handhelds.org archives |
| 17:46:13 | MarkMorga | thanks |
| 17:47:33 | MarkMorga | so is familiar an x server in itself rather than a window manager ? |
| 17:48:28 | treke|home | familiar is a linux distribution |
| 17:48:35 | MarkMorga | oh i see... |
| 17:48:39 | nadav | bleh |
| 17:48:49 | MarkMorga | so i would have to uninstall the linux dist. i have ? |
| 17:50:27 | treke|home | no |
| 17:50:42 | treke|home | you just download the ipk for the window managersd and install them |
| 17:50:42 | nadav | whats the fastest way to delete everything on my CF card? |
| 17:51:19 | MarkMorga | ok |
| 17:51:36 | hardwire | nadav format it |
| 17:52:43 | nadav | eek |
| 17:52:54 | nadav | can't even print the partition table |
| 17:53:02 | nadav | spits out Bus Error and dies ;) |
| 17:54:08 | MarkMorga | is ogg a sound format ? |
| 17:54:12 | nadav | yeah |
| 17:54:15 | MarkMorga | or can ogg123 play mp3s as well ? |
| 17:54:22 | MarkMorga | website is a bit unclesr on that |
| 17:55:11 | treke|home | what website? |
| 17:57:11 | MarkMorga | the one given as a refernce in the zaurus software index |
| 17:57:25 | MarkMorga | is there a console mp3 player for the zaurus treke ? |
| 17:59:16 | MarkMorga | anyone use vi a lot on their zaurus ? |
| 18:01:00 | TMM1[Z] | ya |
| 18:01:23 | MarkMorga | TMM can i ask pls, how do get an escape function |
| 18:01:36 | TMM1[Z] | cancel |
| 18:01:43 | kergoth | MarkMorga: theres a FAQ. read it. |
| 18:01:51 | MarkMorga | thanks TMM |
| 18:01:53 | | i heard faq was at http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/ or at http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/handhelds-faq.html or at http://adorphuye.com/zaurus/java/faq.jsp or http://www.travellingkiwi.com/zarus/faq/faq.html |
| 18:01:53 | kergoth | ibot faq |
| 18:01:54 | TMM1[Z] | rtff |
| 18:02:02 | MarkMorga | ah thanks |
| 18:02:03 | kergoth | MarkMorga: zaurus faq, first link ibot said. |
| 18:02:14 | MarkMorga | k cheers |
| 18:02:26 | | it has been said that icewm is a very nice looking window manager with support for themes etc... This ipkg includes a moodified version of winoptions to support xstroke and gtk-menu, and also an icewm menu method. Get it at http://ipaq.geekserve.org |
| 18:02:26 | MarkMorga | ibot icewm |
| 18:03:07 | | MarkMorga: i'm not following you... |
| 18:03:07 | MarkMorga | ibot themes |
| 18:03:11 | | it has been said that mp3 is (MPEG-1 layer 3) This is a compression standard for music. It enables you to fit over 100 full length songs on a single CD with almost no loss of quality. You can find MP3 players and MP3 files on the Web--you just have to look. The music industry is unhappy about MP3 files being swapped around and has shut down some sites that distribute them. |
| 18:03:11 | MarkMorga | ibot mp3 |
| 18:03:17 | | MarkMorga: sorry... |
| 18:03:17 | MarkMorga | ibot console mp3 |
| 18:03:33 | MarkMorga | kergoth - do you know of a console mp3 player ?? |
| 18:03:42 | MarkMorga | i've installed IceWM |
| 18:03:52 | TMM1[Z] | console mp3 |
| 18:03:55 | kergoth | MarkMorga: |
| 18:03:57 | | i heard ipkgfind was at http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org or at http://ipkgfind.48ers.dk/ |
| 18:03:57 | kergoth | ibot ipkgfind |
| 18:04:01 | TMM1[Z] | you can use mplayer |
| 18:04:06 | MarkMorga | thankds |
| 18:04:07 | MarkMorga | thanks |
| 18:05:10 | tboc | btw. any progress with gpq on the Z? |
| 18:05:15 | tboc | gpe |
| 18:09:18 | Shak | are there any other PDAs that run Linux? |
| 18:09:22 | MarkMorga | ipaq |
| 18:09:27 | MarkMorga | series 5 (psion) |
| 18:09:28 | MarkMorga | maybe 7 |
| 18:09:50 | MarkMorga | if i download a .gz theme file from themes.org for icewm - should it work on my zaurus ?? |
| 18:10:16 | Shak | MarkMorga: do you have to hack the series 5 psion? |
| 18:10:30 | MarkMorga | shak yes i believe so |
| 18:10:49 | Shak | MarkMorga: www.linuxda.com << have you seen this? |
| 18:11:15 | MarkMorga | cool |
| 18:11:20 | MarkMorga | just looking now |
| 18:11:26 | tboc | MarkMorga: do you have the original sharp rom on your Z or the OZ one? |
| 18:11:34 | MarkMorga | original i think |
| 18:11:43 | MarkMorga | tboc - how do i check ? |
| 18:11:49 | tboc | MarkMorga: k, ic ... because i tried to install x11 on my Z and it didn't work |
| 18:11:50 | MarkMorga | i know i have rom 1.0 |
| 18:11:56 | MarkMorga | ah ive heard about this |
| 18:12:00 | MarkMorga | iuf you have 1.1 it wont work |
| 18:12:02 | MarkMorga | i had 1.0 |
| 18:12:08 | MarkMorga | and it worked |
| 18:12:12 | MarkMorga | downgrade your rom - and it should work |
| 18:12:20 | tboc | i think the script doesn't install the right symlinks |
| 18:13:37 | MarkMorga | how do i change background colpour in icewm ? |
| 18:13:55 | Shak | is it possible to get other WMs running on the zaurus |
| 18:14:06 | MarkMorga | shak definately |
| 18:14:24 | Shak | MarkMorga: like fluxbox? |
| 18:14:36 | Shak | or blackbox or openbox |
| 18:14:53 | TMM1[Z] | fluxbox |
| 18:15:39 | tboc | anyone heard of http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/evas.html ? |
| 18:15:46 | hardwire | erhm |
| 18:15:48 | hardwire | yup :) |
| 18:16:03 | Shak | I really want a zaurus do they do student discount? |
| 18:16:07 | MarkMorga | shak - defin ately fluxbox |
| 18:16:23 | hardwire | whats the diff from blackbox to openbox |
| 18:17:01 | tboc | someone said that there was a arm port for evas ... |
| 18:17:12 | ljp | one's black and the other is open |
| 18:17:43 | MarkMorga | guys is there a quick way to change the backgound in IceWM ? |
| 18:20:58 | tboc | will "ipkg upgrade" work or does it blow the whole distri? =) |
| 18:21:15 | tboc | somehow i don't trust ipkg ;) |
| 18:42:46 | TMM1[Z] | yea |
| 18:42:53 | TMM1[Z] | thats not good |
| 18:43:10 | TMM1[Z] | you should have faith in your package manager |
| 18:43:19 | TMM1[Z] | i trust dpkg |
| 18:43:37 | Onyx4 | tboc: you might want to give aqpkg a try |
| 18:43:43 | Onyx4 | tboc: it just got released in opie |
| 18:44:00 | TMM1[Z] | aqpkg still depends on ipkg |
| 18:44:36 | TMM1[Z] | alll it does is run ipkg commands |
| 18:44:53 | TMM1[Z] | so if ipkg fucks up you're still screwed |
| 18:44:58 | TMM1[Z] | :/ |
| 18:46:02 | tboc | :( |
| 18:46:04 | prpplague | Shak: i have matchbox and icewm running with no problems |
| 18:46:18 | Shak | prpplague: nice one :) |
| 18:46:21 | prpplague | Shak: i had some problems getting fluxbox and blackbox to compile |
| 18:46:43 | Shak | can you cross compile as compiling on that will take an age wont it? |
| 18:47:16 | prpplague | Shak: depends on the size, you could always use a skiff, but i prefer xcompile |
| 18:47:31 | Shak | can it run an ssh server? |
| 18:47:58 | prpplague | Shak: can the z run ssh? is that what you are asking? |
| 18:48:09 | Shak | yeah |
| 18:48:14 | Shak | so you can ssh into it |
| 18:48:28 | prpplague | Shak: sure |
| 18:48:36 | tboc | "Configuring opie-pickboard.../opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qcop: error while loading shared libraries: libqpe.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:48:36 | tboc | pkg_run_script: `/usr/lib/ipkg/info/opie-pickboard.postinst configure' failed: Illegal seek." |
| 18:48:58 | treke|home | Shak: for the most part youy can do anything that linux can do within the constraints of cpu power and storage space |
| 18:49:06 | tboc | why do i get these errors? |
| 18:49:06 | Shak | coolio |
| 18:51:29 | tboc | grr, wget is gone after upgrading |
| 18:52:26 | Fatbum | this optimized unrelease has ssh on it right? |
| 18:53:16 | Fatbum | of oz |
| 18:53:45 | Fatbum | what distro is everyone runnin? |
| 18:53:49 | | linux is ruling the world of Open Source! http://www.linux.org or beards |
| 18:53:49 | Fatbum | ibot linux |
| 18:55:13 | W|GGL|T | slackware on this box and libranet on the other |
| 18:55:28 | | rumour has it usbdnet is make sure you're using the NEW UHCI kernel driver and not the alternate.. (deselect the uhci driver in usb in kernel config and you will get a choice of either alternate or new) |
| 18:55:28 | Fatbum | ibot: usbdnet |
| 19:02:18 | | sniper was last seen on #zaurus 1 days, 21 hours, 19 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: im outta ehre [Fri Sep 27 22:42:21 2002] |
| 19:02:18 | jbardin | ibot seen sniper |
| 19:02:28 | | Fatbum: excuse me? |
| 19:02:28 | Fatbum | ibot smell |
| 19:02:28 | jbardin | hmm |
| 19:02:36 | | Fatbum: sorry... |
| 19:02:36 | Fatbum | ibot worship satan |
| 19:02:46 | | you are major lossage |
| 19:02:46 | Fatbum | ibot fatbum |
| 19:02:52 | | Fatbum: I forgot fatbum |
| 19:02:52 | Fatbum | ibot forget fatbum |
| 19:03:00 | | Fatbum: sorry... |
| 19:03:00 | Fatbum | ibot fatbum has a zaurus |
| 19:03:10 | | Fatbum: excuse me? |
| 19:03:10 | Fatbum | ibot: fatbum has a zaurus |
| 19:03:19 | | Fatbum: what? |
| 19:03:19 | Fatbum | ibot, Fatbum has a zaurus |
| 19:03:24 | | Fatbum: sorry... |
| 19:03:24 | Fatbum | ibot fatbum |
| 19:03:30 | | Fatbum: i'm not following you... |
| 19:03:30 | Fatbum | ibot: fatbum |
| 19:03:34 | | OK, Fatbum. |
| 19:03:34 | Fatbum | ibot i am high |
| 19:03:39 | | you are probably high |
| 19:03:39 | Fatbum | ibot: fatbum |
| 19:15:29 | Harlekin | huh |
| 19:15:45 | TMM1[Z] | hi |
| 19:16:17 | Fatbum | i hate my fuckin motherboard |
| 19:16:22 | hardwire | mee too |
| 19:16:23 | Fatbum | usb wabs out all the time |
| 19:18:14 | | Fatbum: sorry... |
| 19:18:14 | Fatbum | ibot initrd |
| 19:18:21 | | Fatbum: what? |
| 19:18:21 | Fatbum | ibot zimage |
| 19:18:29 | | i am an infobot run by BZFlag on Tangent's machine. |
| 19:18:29 | Fatbum | ibot ibot |
| 19:18:38 | | Fatbum: i'm not following you... |
| 19:18:38 | Fatbum | ibot you suck |
| 19:18:44 | | Fatbum: excuse me? |
| 19:18:44 | Fatbum | ibot message ibot |
| 19:18:51 | | Fatbum: sorry... |
| 19:18:51 | Fatbum | ibot tell ibot he sucks |
| 19:18:54 | | yes, Fatbum? |
| 19:18:54 | Fatbum | ibot |
| 19:18:58 | | rumour has it die is DADO, DADO, DADO |
| 19:18:58 | Fatbum | ibot die |
| 19:19:06 | | you are probably high |
| 19:19:06 | Fatbum | ibot fatbum |
| 19:19:22 | hardwire | I need to oil my keyboard |
| 19:33:44 | Coup | how do? :) |
| 19:33:56 | Fatbum | hola |
| 19:34:02 | Fatbum | i think every1s dead |
| 19:34:09 | Fatbum | only people talkin are me and ibot |
| 19:34:11 | | Fatbum: huh? |
| 19:34:11 | Fatbum | ibot you suck |
| 19:34:14 | Fatbum | nothin |
| 19:34:25 | Fatbum | i said you were a sly guy |
| 19:34:41 | NeoTron | works some on his rpg port |
| 19:35:08 | Coup | harsh :) |
| 19:35:46 | Coup | before i go searching /etc (prolly /etc/ppp) anyone know the exact file i need to adjust to add a default gw route to my PC? |
| 19:36:02 | Coup | bloomin annoying having to open terminal, type route add, blah blah blah before i can use opera :) |
| 19:36:07 | Fatbum | yea |
| 19:36:17 | Fatbum | cf eth? wlan? usbnet? |
| 19:36:28 | Coup | usb |
| 19:36:36 | Coup | ttys0? |
| 19:36:37 | Fatbum | sharp rom or oz? |
| 19:36:41 | Fatbum | usb0 |
| 19:36:42 | Coup | sharp rom :) |
| 19:36:53 | Coup | new Z, not tried Oz yet :) |
| 19:36:55 | Fatbum | dude |
| 19:37:05 | Fatbum | in the sharp rom you can put it in the network app |
| 19:37:11 | Fatbum | thats how i had mine set up |
| 19:37:13 | Coup | nope, not having any of it |
| 19:37:19 | Fatbum | hehe? |
| 19:37:23 | Fatbum | not gonna use it? |
| 19:37:34 | Coup | i mean it aint working :) |
| 19:37:46 | Fatbum | oh wait im dumb |
| 19:37:48 | Fatbum | i dont know |
| 19:37:59 | Coup | also it refuses to use my DNS servers from the graphical thang, i have to edit resolv.conf |
| 19:39:02 | Coup | but at least my weird VNC issues from the other day have resolved themselves :) |
| 19:45:24 | Nighthawk98TJ | noooooo, Buy.com raised the price on the Z by 19 bucks right before i was gonna order it... crapola |
| 19:45:39 | Fatbum | those slutnuts |
| 19:45:46 | Nighthawk98TJ | that's for sure |
| 19:46:14 | Fatbum | any1 used the debian rom for the z? |
| 19:46:17 | | debian is a Linux-Distribution (http://www.debian.org) or very cool or the best thing since sliced macaroni and cheese |
| 19:46:17 | Fatbum | ibot debian |
| 19:46:19 | Nighthawk98TJ | there we go... buydig.com has it for 329 |
| 19:46:29 | Fatbum | www.buydig.com |
| 19:46:44 | Fatbum | www.dealcat.com has the cheapesst 256 sd cards ive found |
| 19:46:47 | Fatbum | 119+ship |
| 19:47:03 | Nighthawk98TJ | cool, thanks |
| 19:47:14 | Nighthawk98TJ | i wonder if buydig has the 802.11b CF card too |
| 19:47:23 | prpplague | Caliban: isn't your nick from greek mythology? |
| 19:47:32 | Fatbum | i got an ambicom cf wlan card for 65 w/shipping on eebs |
| 19:47:44 | Nighthawk98TJ | eebs? |
| 19:47:49 | | rumour has it wifi is see wireless or get either a wcf12 linksys for $62 shipped from buy.com (nice small card, well supported, but not too great on battery) or the socket low power wlan for 160 something plus shipping also on buy.com (great battery usage, needs special drivers) |
| 19:47:49 | TMM1[Z] | ibot wifi |
| 19:48:23 | Fatbum | ebay |
| 19:48:27 | Fatbum | nobody gets my lingo |
| 19:48:28 | Nighthawk98TJ | ahh |
| 19:48:30 | Fatbum | i call it eebs |
| 19:48:31 | Nighthawk98TJ | hehe |
| 19:48:35 | Nighthawk98TJ | :) |
| 19:48:38 | Fatbum | thinks eebs is cooler |
| 19:48:45 | Fatbum | i should set up a website called eebs |
| 19:49:00 | Fatbum | and rip up ebays stocks |
| 19:49:03 | Nighthawk98TJ | i was gonna get the netgear one from buy.com... they have a 30 dollar mailin rebate so it's like 49 bucks after that |
| 19:50:15 | Nighthawk98TJ | anyone know where in the US buydig is located? |
| 19:50:45 | prpplague | just don't get the dlink one |
| 19:51:07 | Nighthawk98TJ | k |
| 19:51:45 | prpplague | Nighthawk98TJ: the dlink one is like my last gf, fat bulky and requires alot of attention |
| 19:51:55 | Nighthawk98TJ | lol--gotcha! |
| 19:52:06 | Nighthawk98TJ | buydig is in NJ, cool, no tax |
| 19:52:15 | Fatbum | Nighthawk98TJ the ambicom one is so small |
| 19:52:30 | Fatbum | like having half of a cf card stick up out of the cf slot |
| 19:52:32 | Fatbum | and thats it |
| 19:52:44 | Nighthawk98TJ | how much is that one? |
| 19:53:06 | prpplague | Nighthawk98TJ: better watch out for them jersey boys, they'll sell you an empty box, lol |
| 19:53:27 | Nighthawk98TJ | lol |
| 19:53:34 | Fatbum | Nighthawk98TJ i got it on eebs for 65, new |
| 19:53:38 | Fatbum | incl ship |
| 19:53:52 | Nighthawk98TJ | im checking prices now, but it looks like Buy.com might still be the same price, since they have free shipping but tax, and buydig has no tax but expensive shipping |
| 19:54:01 | Coup | Fatbum: S15inet was the file i needed :) |
| 19:54:11 | Fatbum | well well |
| 19:54:17 | Fatbum | never woulda guessed |
| 19:54:28 | Coup | you bloomin americans! gonna cost me a fortune to get my WiFi setup! :P |
| 19:54:37 | prpplague | pours a pint of guinness and pulls down latest oz cvs |
| 19:54:49 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 19:54:53 | DragonEagle | sings "The Star Spangled Banner" :) |
| 19:54:54 | TheMasterMind1 | all you really need is a couple of wifi cards |
| 19:55:00 | TheMasterMind1 | you dont' need a wifi hub or access point |
| 19:55:02 | TheMasterMind1 | just a linux box |
| 19:55:25 | Nighthawk98TJ | ya, buy.com ends up being the same price figuring what i said above |
| 19:55:48 | Wintre | Hm |
| 19:55:54 | Coup | aye, going to order a USB WiFi box for my desktop router (50 gbp) and a wifi cf for the Zaurus (70 gbp for cheapest wcf12 card ive seen so far) |
| 19:56:12 | Wintre | Is there a page which describes which 802.11b CF cards are supported? |
| 19:56:29 | | prpplague: excuse me? |
| 19:56:29 | prpplague | ibot: wifi cards |
| 19:56:34 | | prpplague: huh? |
| 19:56:34 | prpplague | ibot: supported cards |
| 19:56:48 | prpplague | Sugar: supported cards |
| 19:57:08 | | prpplague: huh? |
| 19:57:08 | prpplague | ibot: zaurus cf cards |
| 19:57:08 | smee|h | http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 19:57:12 | Fatbum | wintre yea |
| 19:57:43 | | OK, prpplague. |
| 19:57:43 | prpplague | ibot: zaurus wifi cards are http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 19:57:59 | | i heard wifi was see wireless or get either a wcf12 linksys for $62 shipped from buy.com (nice small card, well supported, but not too great on battery) or the socket low power wlan for 160 something plus shipping also on buy.com (great battery usage, needs special drivers) |
| 19:57:59 | Fatbum | ibot wifi |
| 19:58:10 | | okay, Fatbum. |
| 19:58:10 | Fatbum | ibot wifi is also http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 19:58:14 | | wifi is probably see wireless or get either a wcf12 linksys for $62 shipped from buy.com (nice small card, well supported, but not too great on battery) or the socket low power wlan for 160 something plus shipping also on buy.com (great battery usage, needs special drivers) or http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 19:58:14 | Fatbum | ibot wifi |
| 19:58:24 | | ...but wifi is see wireless or get either a wcf12 linksys for $62 shipped from buy.com (nice small card, well supported, but not too great on battery) or the socket low power wlan for 160 something plus shipping also on buy.com (great battery usage, needs special drivers) or http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml... |
| 19:58:24 | Fatbum | ibot wifi is not http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 19:58:31 | | ...but wifi is see wireless or get either a wcf12 linksys for $62 shipped from buy.com (nice small card, well supported, but not too great on battery) or the socket low power wlan for 160 something plus shipping also on buy.com (great battery usage, needs special drivers) or http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml... |
| 19:58:31 | Fatbum | ibot, wifi is not http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/wirelesscards.shtml |
| 19:58:36 | Fatbum | fine |
| 19:58:52 | prpplague | Fatbum: don't forget that ibot is also on about 12 other embedded channels so you need to be specific |
| 19:59:25 | | fatbum: wish i knew |
| 19:59:25 | Fatbum | ibot what channels are you in? |
| 19:59:29 | Fatbum | see? |
| 19:59:56 | prpplague | ibot is on #bzflag #zaurus #Utah #uclibc #tuxscreen #TuxBoxProject #tomcat #storm #psilinux #picogui #opie #openzaurus #kiss #ipaq #intimate #handhelds.org #gpe #gllug #familiar #bluez |
| 20:00:20 | hardwire | I should work today |
| 20:00:28 | prpplague | hardwire: why? |
| 20:01:44 | Wintre | Hmm |
| 20:02:04 | Wintre | That page has a little on the SMC |
| 20:02:12 | Wintre | SMC 2462W, but no details. Is that good or bad? |
| 20:02:48 | Wintre | Ah |
| 20:02:51 | Wintre | finds something in the wiki |
| 20:03:15 | | i think wiki is http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/HandheldsWiki or http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/wiki/ or a user-editable web site |
| 20:03:15 | Fatbum | ibot wiki |
| 20:03:47 | Wintre | Looking in http://www.zauruszone.com/wiki/index.php?WirelessCardSupport ... It's amusing to see that all the cards use one of two revisions of the same chipset |
| 20:04:44 | Wintre | resists the urge to buy that an an access point |
| 20:05:59 | nadav | haha |
| 20:06:17 | Twiun | evening folks |
| 20:06:28 | Fatbum | yo |
| 20:08:43 | Fatbum | is 17ma standby for a cf wlan card good? |
| 20:12:40 | Onyx4 | doesn't sound too bad |
| 20:14:09 | Cam___ | is that the lowest yet? |
| 20:14:39 | Cam___ | cos the socket/symbol is 20mA |
| 20:15:02 | Cam___ | does our driver actually use the power management? |
| 20:15:09 | Wintre | 100 sounds pretty high by comparison |
| 20:15:17 | Fatbum | yea |
| 20:15:21 | Fatbum | i have the ambicom |
| 20:15:23 | Fatbum | yay me |
| 20:15:26 | Fatbum | leaps |
| 20:15:28 | prpplague | anyone here familiar with the latest buildroot? |
| 20:15:32 | Fatbum | then falls on his zaurus |
| 20:16:12 | Wintre | Fatbum: How is it? |
| 20:16:26 | Fatbum | good? |
| 20:16:28 | Fatbum | :-P |
| 20:16:40 | Fatbum | it had a cold earlier, but i gave it some juice |
| 20:16:42 | Wintre | resists some more |
| 20:16:48 | Wintre | Har de har. |
| 20:19:24 | prpplague | deevee: hey i know your brother - deeveedee |
| 20:19:38 | deevee | eh |
| 20:19:52 | deevee | heh |
| 20:19:55 | scanline | is back (gone 08:37:29) |
| 20:19:57 | prpplague | tries to be funny but fails |
| 20:21:57 | deevee | are sd cards fast enough to play mp3's off of? |
| 20:22:33 | Fatbum | yep |
| 20:23:00 | deevee | ima buy one then |
| 20:23:09 | deevee | and i need a case. any ideas? |
| 20:23:14 | deevee | i dont want a leather one either |
| 20:23:20 | Fatbum | deevee the cheapest 256 sd is at dealcat.com |
| 20:23:29 | Fatbum | deevee all ive seen is leather |
| 20:23:32 | | sd is, like, an external storage media that can be used for applications and documents. Due to it's slow speed, it is not recommended for video/audio files. http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/managing_sd_cf_howto.shtml see also CF |
| 20:23:32 | Fatbum | ibot sd |
| 20:23:44 | prpplague | argh, my fresh buildroot is give me problems |
| 20:23:45 | Fatbum | slow? |
| 20:25:08 | kergoth`errands | prpplague: cvs? |
| 20:25:17 | kergoth`errands | prpplague: cvs is about 6 days behind, i'll resync tonight |
| 20:25:41 | Wintre | s/it's/its/ |
| 20:26:37 | prpplague | kergoth`errands: ok, thanks, i'll wait till later to pull a fresh copy |
| 20:26:46 | prpplague | kergoth`errands: you get my six pack? |
| 20:27:10 | kergoth`errands | heheh |
| 20:28:43 | scanline | isn't very good at blackout.. but plays it anyway |
| 20:29:07 | scanline | always kinda frustrating when you can't beat a game you wrote ;) |
| 20:29:14 | Fatbum | hah |
| 20:29:17 | prpplague | scanline: lol |
| 20:29:53 | scanline | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.16900.png |
| 20:30:24 | NeoTron | Hrm. DB2 source compiles (no linking and no interface methods yet so it wouldn't run) |
| 20:31:27 | Coup | hmmm, apache/mysql/phpmyadmin --> LOW MEMORY :( |
| 20:31:41 | Coup | no real shock :) |
| 20:31:48 | scanline | wonders who's planning a server farm full of Zaurii |
| 20:33:31 | Coup | better off making a ramdisk on a CF card over an SD card? :) |
| 20:33:40 | Coup | or rather, not ramdisk, but swapfile :) |
| 20:34:09 | hardwire | scanline: not me |
| 20:34:12 | hardwire | fakes a face |
| 20:34:15 | hardwire | really |
| 20:34:34 | hardwire | scanline where is your blinkenlights stuff? |
| 20:34:55 | scanline | http://blinkenlights.sf.net/ |
| 20:40:16 | hardwire | you should come hang in lcdproc |
| 20:41:04 | scanline | maybe... I prefer to write my own software for this stuff though ;) |
| 20:41:23 | scanline | http://picogui.org/sshotdetail.php?index=64 |
| 20:41:25 | angry_ | scanline: YOU WRITE BLINKEN LIGHTS? |
| 20:41:37 | angry_ | *WROTE |
| 20:41:49 | scanline | angry_: not the big blinkenlights, this is the "home version" |
| 20:42:02 | hardwire | scanline: I wasn't talkint about using lcdproc |
| 20:42:10 | hardwire | thats just where a shitload of coloradoans hang out |
| 20:42:16 | scanline | oh |
| 20:42:19 | scanline | that's cool |
| 20:42:22 | hardwire | because my friends here in town wrote lcdproc |
| 20:42:26 | angry_ | scanline: huh? |
| 20:42:39 | angry_ | scanline: when i apt-get'ed bl was it your version? |
| 20:42:45 | prpplague | hardwire: you work on the lcdproc stuff? |
| 20:43:02 | scanline | angry_: what's the "bl" package for? |
| 20:43:09 | hardwire | prpplague yes and no |
| 20:43:15 | angry_ | blinkenlights |
| 20:43:15 | hardwire | I am friends with the original designers |
| 20:43:24 | hardwire | and know a crapload about lcd's now |
| 20:43:24 | scanline | angry_: go to http://blinkenlights.sf.net/, it explains pretty well what I wrote |
| 20:43:35 | hardwire | but I don't work on the software |
| 20:43:35 | prpplague | hardwire: coool |
| 20:43:55 | prpplague | puts hardwire on his <pester></pester> list |
| 20:44:00 | hardwire | I have like 5 or 6 burnt LCD's at my house at the moment :) |
| 20:44:14 | scanline | I need to write picogui drivers for these VFDs I have... |
| 20:44:14 | hardwire | prpplague: I guess thats fair.. you are on my pester list |
| 20:44:29 | prpplague | hardwire: i have about 10 around the house right now, lol |
| 20:44:40 | hardwire | scanline: I dunno if you have ever played with matrix orbital displays.. we ended up going to canada and visiting the company up there for a week.. |
| 20:44:48 | angry_ | scanline: i scared my brother with blinkenlights - i SSH'd into my home computer from school and ran bl while he was using my computer |
| 20:44:54 | hardwire | I ended up putting together a vfd that had the pleasure of going into outer space |
| 20:44:56 | scanline | hardwire: nope, just HD44780-compatible things |
| 20:45:03 | scanline | angry_: what is bl? |
| 20:45:14 | scanline | hardwire: spiffy, what for? |
| 20:45:16 | hardwire | scanline: they have a micropic controller.. serial |
| 20:45:17 | prpplague | hardwire: wow, do tell? |
| 20:45:34 | hardwire | scanline: they had a contract to do some vfds for some imax cameras going to film the shuttle missions at the time |
| 20:45:42 | scanline | ooh |
| 20:45:43 | angry_ | scanline: blinkenlights the program |
| 20:45:45 | prpplague | cool |
| 20:45:46 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:46:03 | scanline | angry_: heh.. got a URL or something? there are lots of things named "blinkenlights" apparently |
| 20:46:08 | hardwire | I also learned how to shoot pennies into the air with an electrocoil up there |
| 20:46:12 | angry_ | or maybe its the wrong thing |
| 20:46:19 | angry_ | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/bl.html |
| 20:46:24 | prpplague | scanline: you know the hd44780 sure seems to be a long running standard |
| 20:46:26 | hardwire | I knew it could be easily be done.. I just never had the time to make the coil |
| 20:46:30 | scanline | angry_: oh |
| 20:46:56 | hardwire | gets angry at this led_board avi not downloading |
| 20:47:03 | angry_ | gets angry at it too |
| 20:47:17 | scanline | blame sourceforge's servers, I guess |
| 20:47:21 | Fatbum | the video doesnt work |
| 20:47:24 | hardwire | I am |
| 20:47:25 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:47:31 | scanline | the video is in DivX |
| 20:47:37 | Fatbum | i know |
| 20:47:41 | hardwire | Fatbum very nice problem solving :) |
| 20:47:41 | Fatbum | i cant even connect |
| 20:47:46 | prpplague | hardwire: i still want scanline to build a led based tv sewed into a large blanket that could be unrolled |
| 20:47:57 | scanline | I want scanline to build that too |
| 20:48:01 | hardwire | prpplague hahaha |
| 20:48:04 | Fatbum | wants scanline |
| 20:48:08 | Fatbum | to do that....that is |
| 20:48:09 | Fatbum | .... |
| 20:48:13 | hardwire | that would be pretty easy |
| 20:48:21 | hardwire | just .. I don't know how to quilt |
| 20:48:24 | scanline | backs away from Fatbum slowly ;) |
| 20:48:36 | hardwire | oh hell scanline |
| 20:48:39 | hardwire | we all want yah |
| 20:48:51 | Fatbum | a tv? |
| 20:48:52 | prpplague | hardwire: think of the sales potential, what about things like concerts and special events, it would very easy to set up |
| 20:48:53 | Fatbum | honestly |
| 20:48:53 | scanline | screams and runs to hide in another channel |
| 20:49:04 | Mantus | anyone here play exult (ultima 7) |
| 20:49:12 | Fatbum | thats why we have lcd projectors |
| 20:49:34 | scanline | Fatbum: this could be a lot brighter than projectors |
| 20:49:39 | scanline | daylight-visible |
| 20:49:51 | Fatbum | oh...leet |
| 20:50:01 | prpplague | Fatbum: what if you don't have a long focul length or complete line of site? |
| 20:50:11 | scanline | it'd also be hella-expensive |
| 20:50:26 | scanline | all those red green and blue LEDs, plus the controller hardware.. |
| 20:50:45 | prpplague | scanline: can't any more expensive than some of those large tv's |
| 20:50:57 | scanline | true |
| 20:51:09 | prpplague | scanline: those multi screen tvs at bestbuy are like $100k + |
| 20:51:20 | Fatbum | woot |
| 20:52:02 | hardwire | scanline you can get and offset green/red red/blue blue/green ultrabright leds |
| 20:52:05 | Cam___ | ls |
| 20:52:15 | hardwire | subled blanket rendering |
| 20:52:25 | Fatbum | hehe |
| 20:52:31 | scanline | hardwire: I know, that's what I was talking about.... just forgot to use commas |
| 20:53:00 | scanline | hardwire: I've seen some displays like that in Vegas |
| 20:53:15 | scanline | one of them had a windows error dialog on it :) |
| 20:53:19 | prpplague | scanline: ya the downtown vegas location has the skyroof |
| 20:53:21 | hardwire | HEH! |
| 20:53:32 | hardwire | scanline: it had a crt -> led array controller? |
| 20:53:34 | prpplague | scanline: but they actually use incandescent bulbs |
| 20:53:36 | hardwire | pimp |
| 20:53:39 | scanline | yeah |
| 20:53:51 | wazlaf | do pretec wlan cards work on the Z? |
| 20:53:51 | scanline | looked like the computer was in 640x480 and the LED array was the top-left quarter |
| 20:54:04 | hardwire | interesting |
| 20:54:08 | hardwire | hahahaha |
| 20:54:14 | hardwire | man.. gotta love .. stuff |
| 20:54:41 | scanline | so windows had some error, and it popped up the error message overlapping the LED area |
| 20:55:18 | prpplague | scanline: fun |
| 20:56:24 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:56:30 | prpplague | scanline: that one is off the local weather channel |
| 20:57:35 | Mantus | is it possible to program the apps keys to a specific macro? |
| 20:57:42 | hardwire | oh thats no good |
| 20:58:21 | hardwire | gotta love something that does something you would never want it to do |
| 20:58:33 | hardwire | linux.. that can fail and not report the issue to everybody |
| 20:58:33 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:58:43 | hardwire | I doubt you could disable such messages in windows |
| 20:58:44 | prpplague | Mantus: i can't say under qt, but under x the keys function just like any other scan code, you can do just about anything with them |
| 20:59:24 | prpplague | hardwire: ya i can't believe they use winblows for something so publicly mission critical |
| 21:00:03 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:00:15 | hardwire | is the XORsist |
| 21:00:38 | hardwire | XORS linux onto you |
| 21:01:03 | prpplague | hardwire: of course we still have several cable companies in the area that still uses amigas with video toasters |
| 21:01:34 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:01:40 | hardwire | I don't mind video toasters |
| 21:01:43 | hardwire | I grew up on those |
| 21:02:04 | hardwire | I ended up teaching a class on how to do video editing way back in high school |
| 21:02:17 | hardwire | and the video toaster was the brains in the booth |
| 21:07:55 | MSpin | ooo...the video toaster |
| 21:08:16 | hardwire | the amazingness |
| 21:08:31 | MSpin | I cut my teeth on one back in 9th grade...geesh |
| 21:09:12 | prpplague | hardwire: funny thing is they could have done that weather page using linux very easy, all that is an app that dl's a gif every 2 seconds and displays it |
| 21:10:22 | hardwire | but.. thats difficult |
| 21:10:25 | hardwire | wah |
| 21:10:41 | MagiCs | byes |
| 21:15:55 | Bala | is there an easier way to create a pixmap out of a QCanvas than creating a view and bitblt'ing that ? |
| 21:20:49 | Onyx4|Z | hehe |
| 21:31:39 | scanline | is screencap down? |
| 21:32:55 | hardwire | the inhumanity |
| 21:43:49 | scanline | the screencap maintainer put source up on the web site after I emailed him about getting the source.. I'm going to fix that off-by-one bug and maybe add a "on a zaurus" option |
| 21:44:39 | ljp | how about 'on a credit card machine' option? |
| 21:44:59 | scanline | not yet |
| 21:51:11 | ljp | ok, 'on a vercel' option |
| 21:52:07 | Twiun | anyone apart from me interested in running the evm 'headless' direct to the framebuffer? |
| 21:52:09 | prpplague | hmmmm, a vercel |
| 21:52:27 | Twiun | (no qtopia) |
| 21:52:28 | scanline | evm? |
| 21:52:30 | prpplague | i sure hope they get their finances together to maybe atleast one run |
| 21:52:36 | Twiun | scanline: Jeode |
| 21:52:39 | scanline | ah |
| 21:53:32 | Fatbum | whats a vercel? |
| 21:53:40 | | hmmm... vercel is http://www.vercel.com/ or a SA1110/1111 pda with included keyboard targetting $350 USD retail. or the coolest thing since sliced bread |
| 21:53:40 | prpplague | ibot: vercel |
| 21:54:00 | | OK, scanline |
| 21:54:00 | scanline | ibot: vercel =~ s/bread/cheese/ |
| 21:54:19 | Fatbum | um i wanna see |
| 21:54:22 | | picogui is an small and scalable embedded GUI. More info in the #picogui channel or at http://picogui.org. Read the FAQ or not pico gui or pico-gui |
| 21:54:22 | prpplague | ibot: picogui |
| 21:55:05 | | okay, prpplague. |
| 21:55:05 | prpplague | ibot: picogui is also even coolier than sliced cheese |
| 21:55:10 | | picogui is an small and scalable embedded GUI. More info in the #picogui channel or at http://picogui.org. Read the FAQ or not pico gui or pico-gui or even coolier than sliced cheese |
| 21:55:10 | prpplague | ibot: picogui |
| 21:55:18 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:55:27 | | tcsx-1 is http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8485254374.html |
| 21:55:27 | prpplague | ibot: tcsx-1 |
| 21:55:31 | scanline | heh.. the bug in screencap is actually a bug in pnmrotate |
| 21:55:38 | ljp | ya, at least vercel should make a dev version. I'm tired of this vercel-on-a-board thing |
| 21:56:42 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:56:46 | prpplague | ljp: argh you have a dev board? |
| 21:56:52 | hardwire | the tcsx has quite a few radio shack parts |
| 21:57:03 | prpplague | ljp: so much for brown noising with bz |
| 21:57:14 | prpplague | hardwire: hey, no insults please |
| 21:57:34 | ljp | I have Riker's board here on my desk |
| 21:57:40 | prpplague | ljp: bastard |
| 21:57:47 | ljp | :D |
| 21:58:05 | hardwire | prpplague: you make that? |
| 21:58:08 | ljp | its on a wood board |
| 21:58:18 | prpplague | hardwire: ya that was my first attempt at an embedded system |
| 21:58:27 | hardwire | prpplague: am I supposed to ignore the PC/104 |
| 21:58:29 | hardwire | its not listed :) |
| 21:58:36 | scanline | is away: food |
| 21:58:37 | ljp | there's no cover. I cant really put it in my pocket |
| 21:59:23 | hardwire | prpplague: naw.. no insults.. I just recognize a few things |
| 21:59:26 | hardwire | like the big red button |
| 21:59:31 | Fatbum | hehe |
| 21:59:54 | hardwire | prpplague what the heck is that processor? |
| 22:00:01 | prpplague | hardwire: stpc |
| 22:00:14 | hardwire | its 64bit! |
| 22:00:20 | hardwire | I have actually never heard of it |
| 22:00:20 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:00:43 | Fatbum | super-turbo-processercrap |
| 22:00:43 | hardwire | prpplague: and you fabbed the board as well? |
| 22:01:08 | prpplague | hardwire: sub'd it out to a tawainese company |
| 22:01:27 | prpplague | hardwire: it was really an experiment, i was lucky that my employeer needed a tax write off |
| 22:01:39 | hardwire | hmm |
| 22:01:45 | hardwire | I would love to get the chance to fab out a board like that |
| 22:01:54 | hardwire | I "need" to be able to do that :) |
| 22:02:03 | ljp | woot! riker extended my license for a year |
| 22:02:33 | treke|home | what license? |
| 22:02:46 | ljp | embedix sdk |
| 22:02:56 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:03:16 | prpplague | hardwire: x86 sucks, i'll never do that again |
| 22:03:22 | hardwire | haha |
| 22:03:23 | ljp | there board support wizard is really nice |
| 22:03:38 | hardwire | I was looking for any current mips or arm based chips |
| 22:03:44 | hardwire | I need dual pcmcia |
| 22:03:48 | hardwire | ide |
| 22:03:51 | hardwire | a screen |
| 22:03:54 | hardwire | and dual eth |
| 22:03:59 | hardwire | so.. I might be fuxored |
| 22:04:03 | ljp | with a radio dish |
| 22:04:06 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:04:21 | hardwire | hmm |
| 22:04:27 | hardwire | anybody know where I can buy 2way mirror? |
| 22:04:34 | ljp | yes |
| 22:04:45 | ljp | at the 2 way mirror-gettin' store |
| 22:04:49 | Fatbum | haha |
| 22:04:51 | hardwire | got an address? |
| 22:04:54 | | Fatbum: i'm not following you... |
| 22:04:54 | Fatbum | ibot: crapp |
| 22:04:56 | ljp | hmmm |
| 22:05:02 | | mirror is see familiar mirror |
| 22:05:02 | Fatbum | ibot mirror |
| 22:05:02 | ljp | denver |
| 22:05:06 | Fatbum | yay yay |
| 22:07:15 | prpplague | hardwire: i had intended to make a tcsx-2 with a dual pcmcia slot, but the more i learn about arm, the more i want that instead of wasting time with x86 |
| 22:07:22 | Fatbum | how do i recieve by ir in oz? |
| 22:08:08 | ljp | you need the irdaapplet |
| 22:08:13 | Fatbum | and then? |
| 22:08:31 | ljp | click on it and enable irda, and then enable receive |
| 22:08:34 | hardwire | prpplague nice |
| 22:08:42 | hardwire | do keep me updated if it eveer comes around |
| 22:08:43 | ljp | it'l be dumped into /tmp with no prompt |
| 22:08:45 | kagemusha | has anyone used the ipsec module and userspace tool successfully? |
| 22:09:04 | hardwire | eh? |
| 22:09:57 | Fatbum | k |
| 22:10:23 | Fatbum | now i put in my cf and it tells me what media i wanna look for: gui looks like shit as usual, and i tell it all that and there are no docs |
| 22:10:24 | Fatbum | hmm |
| 22:18:09 | Fatbum | i cant recieve by ir |
| 22:18:13 | Fatbum | from a palm III |
| 22:20:45 | ljp | did you look in /tmp? |
| 22:20:58 | Fatbum | what am i looking for? |
| 22:21:06 | ljp | the file |
| 22:21:11 | Fatbum | my palm said couldnt find recipetent or whatever |
| 22:21:46 | ljp | are libopenobex and libopieobex both installed also? |
| 22:21:58 | Fatbum | are they by default? |
| 22:22:20 | Fatbum | yea |
| 22:22:23 | Fatbum | theyre there |
| 22:23:03 | Fatbum | "Could not find a recieving handheld computer. |
| 22:23:04 | Fatbum | " |
| 22:23:12 | Fatbum | from me [alm3x |
| 22:23:17 | Fatbum | s/[/p |
| 22:25:28 | hardwire | anybody here know how to make 104mhz lojack beacons? |
| 22:26:01 | hardwire | I think the most usefull thing I can do with my pda at the moment.. is use it to find my disc golf discs |
| 22:27:49 | ljp | hehehe |
| 22:35:30 | hardwire | http://embedded.censoft.com/downloads/downloads.php |
| 22:35:31 | hardwire | interesting stuff |
| 22:35:35 | hardwire | snag the x86 test |
| 22:35:38 | hardwire | its nano-X |
| 22:35:45 | hardwire | with a really interesting gui |
| 22:36:08 | scanline | there was a PDA going to be released with that |
| 22:36:20 | scanline | dunno if it's still planned, from what I've heard microwindows has really been losing steam |
| 22:37:01 | prpplague | hardwire: pixil has been totaly killed |
| 22:37:18 | hardwire | good |
| 22:37:25 | prpplague | hardwire: the boss man at century felt that it was "not worth development" |
| 22:37:27 | hardwire | its bad |
| 22:38:00 | prpplague | hardwire: what was bad about it? |
| 22:40:13 | hardwire | well |
| 22:40:25 | hardwire | they could have just as easily scaled down xlibs |
| 22:40:32 | hardwire | and made something that was not sucky |
| 22:42:32 | prpplague | true, i'm a big fltk fan |
| 22:43:03 | scanline | heh.. the pixil demo segfaults if I resize the window |
| 22:43:31 | prpplague | really? |
| 22:43:42 | hardwire | hehheh |
| 22:44:01 | prpplague | scanline: be sure and harass CosmicPenguin about that |
| 22:44:02 | hardwire | they could also make it actually worth looking at |
| 22:44:02 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:44:16 | hardwire | everythign is obviously too large to be practical on a PDA |
| 22:44:36 | scanline | hmm? |
| 22:44:43 | hardwire | fonts.. so forth.. |
| 22:44:54 | scanline | ah |
| 22:44:58 | hardwire | speaking of which |
| 22:45:00 | hardwire | slaps scanline |
| 22:45:04 | hardwire | you have big fonts |
| 22:45:13 | scanline | hardwire: I also have small fonts! |
| 22:45:15 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:45:18 | hardwire | I know |
| 22:45:20 | hardwire | but. |
| 22:45:24 | hardwire | I haven't slapped somebody in a while |
| 22:45:29 | scanline | oh, ok :P |
| 22:45:32 | hardwire | its just an e-slap |
| 22:45:47 | scanline | http://picogui.org/sshotdetail.php?index=79 <-- here, small fonts |
| 22:45:55 | scanline | the small fonts will look better once they're antialiased |
| 22:46:00 | prpplague | there is a really art/science about developing good apps intended for limited desktop space and limited types of input |
| 22:46:02 | Harlekin | Onyx4|Z: opie irc? |
| 22:46:08 | hardwire | oooh |
| 22:46:09 | hardwire | nice |
| 22:46:44 | prpplague | scanline: man, that must be the IRS font, so small your bound to miss something |
| 22:46:57 | scanline | hehe.. 6 pixel high |
| 22:46:59 | Fatbum | dude scanline |
| 22:47:09 | Fatbum | what model z is that vnc picturing? |
| 22:47:15 | Fatbum | must be a 5000d |
| 22:47:28 | prpplague | i think thats a virtual z |
| 22:47:33 | Fatbum | like fake? |
| 22:47:33 | scanline | yeah |
| 22:47:48 | scanline | it's a picture from the Qtopia web site, with perspective correction and some scaling |
| 22:47:59 | scanline | picogui has a "skins" system that lets it run on virtual PDAs and stuff |
| 22:48:09 | prpplague | Fatbum: picogui has a great feature of allowing you to test pda features on the desktop |
| 22:48:38 | prpplague | scanline: take a bow for a great developer concept |
| 22:48:43 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:48:45 | scanline | bows |
| 22:48:59 | scanline | http://picogui.org/sshotdetail.php?index=74 <-- here's one showing picogui running inside picogui and simulating a VR3 |
| 22:49:22 | scanline | it does LCD tints and backlight simulation too |
| 22:49:25 | prpplague | scanline: argh its the m$ zombie |
| 22:49:40 | scanline | yeah, I was showing off the SDL stuff |
| 22:49:50 | Fatbum | i had a video of him yellin and screamin like a goon |
| 22:49:56 | scanline | alpha blended cursor overlapping the playing video too :) |
| 22:51:21 | prpplague | you know i went to the local GOP meeting last month and the politicians have _no_ idea what m$ is doing to america's standanding in the technology community |
| 22:51:41 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:51:52 | scanline | politicians generally are very good at having no clue |
| 22:52:05 | prpplague | scanline: well they are extra clueless about this |
| 22:52:14 | Onyx4|Z | yes opie irc hehe |
| 22:52:36 | Onyx4|Z | its pretty nice |
| 22:53:04 | Onyx4|Z | they could add auto-connect |
| 22:53:19 | Onyx4|Z | and to disable or not the user list |
| 22:53:20 | prpplague | scanline: i had a Opensource vs. m$ chart for government costs, and they could believe the amount of money they could save |
| 22:54:37 | Bala | i sure do wish there was an easier way to save a QCanvas as a .png.. :( |
| 22:55:20 | prpplague | Bala: ahh i never have used Qcanvas, but seems like gimp should do just about anything you need as far as graphics go |
| 22:55:31 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:55:53 | Bala | hmm.. not in this instance :) |
| 22:56:18 | prpplague | don't tell me, qcanvas is a pda app? |
| 22:56:31 | treke|ho1e | qcanvas is a qt class |
| 22:56:34 | Bala | its part of one.. |
| 22:56:38 | prpplague | ahh |
| 22:56:55 | prpplague | Bala: problem solved, don;t use qt.... |
| 22:56:57 | Bala | its all part of a stupidly brutal full screeen kludge :( |
| 22:57:03 | scanline | I suppose I'm back now... |
| 22:57:04 | scanline | is back (gone 00:58:27) |
| 22:57:23 | prpplague | wahoo party time scanline is back! |
| 22:57:52 | scanline | :D-/-< |
| 22:57:54 | scanline | :D-\-< |
| 22:57:55 | scanline | :D-/-< |
| 22:57:55 | prpplague | damit i need a vacation, i hope that lili hits the caymans |
| 22:57:56 | scanline | :D-\-< |
| 22:58:40 | prpplague | scanline: if i give you an ip address can you r00t it for me so i have to go fix it? |
| 22:59:06 | scanline | probably not, I've never tried cracking |
| 22:59:28 | prpplague | scanline: ok, guess i'll have to give you some passwords |
| 22:59:32 | prpplague | lol |
| 22:59:35 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:59:52 | scanline | I'd suggest some simulated power surges... |
| 23:00:12 | prpplague | scanline: ya make it something easy, like kill the inittab file |
| 23:00:31 | scanline | :) |
| 23:45:49 | jbardin | hmm |
| 23:50:07 | jbardin | ambrosia smosia.. the gods ate manwhich |
| 23:50:43 | Bala | mmmmm manwhich.. now youve got me hungry :( |
| 23:50:50 | jbardin | hehe |
| 23:51:03 | Fatbum | me 10 (thats binary) |
| 23:51:39 | jbardin | there are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who dont |
| 23:51:53 | Fatbum | hehe |
| 23:52:04 | Fatbum | i like yours better |
| 23:52:53 | jbardin | i think i got it from a sig somewher |
| 23:54:18 | NeoTron | 6G |
| 23:54:21 | NeoTron | t\g/rf'%t65 |
| 23:56:09 | Bala | ?? |
