| 00:00:08 | Cloud | not for a while |
| 00:00:15 | Cloud | anything we can help you with? |
| 00:00:49 | VerxHome | well, shawn and max were working on some fixes to their software |
| 00:01:30 | Cloud | ack out of memory erros |
| 00:01:43 | ljp | my front yard-> http://news.ai/images/sunrise.jpg |
| 00:02:36 | VerxHome | ljp: heheheheh |
| 00:02:58 | ljp | ya I wish |
| 00:03:01 | VerxHome | My wife and I are looking at buying some land soon that is literally right on a mountain |
| 00:03:08 | VerxHome | and it is surrounded by other mountains |
| 00:03:19 | VerxHome | so no beach, but we would have a pool and incredibly awesome sunsets |
| 00:03:21 | ljp | and many burnt trees? |
| 00:03:25 | VerxHome | none |
| 00:03:41 | VerxHome | but yeah, lots of fires out in the southwestern states |
| 00:04:53 | VerxHome | man, I need tkcPlayer to support things like the ability to jump to an area in a song other than the beginning |
| 00:05:01 | Cloud | hmm getting all kinds of out of memory warnings and i don't have anything open |
| 00:05:21 | VerxHome | that always sucks |
| 00:05:56 | Cloud | what do i do? |
| 00:06:11 | Cloud | i have fast start shut off on everyhting |
| 00:06:35 | Cloud | something is going on though |
| 00:07:13 | Cloud | anyone have any ideas? |
| 00:07:49 | Cloud | it keeps telling me to save my data |
| 00:09:07 | Cloud | i shut it off now it wont let me put in my passcode ;( |
| 00:11:24 | Cloud | had to do soft reset |
| 00:12:54 | Cloud | can anyone explain the memory usage.. |
| 00:13:25 | Cloud | like there's 8 meg Used, 3 meg buffers, 14 meg cached |
| 00:13:36 | Cloud | leaving only 3 meg free after restart |
| 00:17:00 | VerxHome | the buffers and cache are still "free" memory |
| 00:17:13 | VerxHome | if you end up really needing memory, those are converted over to allow use for programs |
| 00:17:16 | Cloud | so why did i run out? |
| 00:17:26 | VerxHome | I have no idea |
| 00:17:28 | VerxHome | I don't even have a zaurus |
| 00:17:39 | Cloud | ah oki |
| 00:17:48 | VerxHome | I use an ipaq |
| 00:36:21 | VerxHome | anyone here tried zaam? |
| 00:40:56 | VerxHome | thinks he might just give that a try |
| 01:06:15 | Cloud | ack! i think i just fried my husband's pc |
| 01:06:29 | SirPsycho-home | did you have it on the grill? |
| 01:06:48 | Cloud | i was installing a game and it errored |
| 01:06:54 | Cloud | wouldn't let me quit |
| 01:07:03 | VerxHome | kick butt |
| 01:07:03 | Cloud | it froze up and i had to shut it down hard |
| 01:07:09 | Cloud | now it won't restart |
| 01:07:10 | VerxHome | now that there is MMC support for the iPAQ |
| 01:07:16 | Cloud | deader than a doornail |
| 01:07:19 | VerxHome | I have audiobooks I am converting to ogg vorbis |
| 01:07:34 | VerxHome | I can fit like 5 hours of audio on a 64MB MMC card |
| 01:07:35 | VerxHome | rock on! |
| 01:08:09 | VerxHome | sorry to hear that cloud |
| 01:08:40 | SirPsycho-home | i encoded some cd's and like 2 full cd's would fit on a 64MB card |
| 01:09:04 | VerxHome | well, since these are audiobooks, I can compress them such that I get like 1 hour in 15MB |
| 01:09:11 | VerxHome | a bit better than that |
| 01:09:15 | VerxHome | but that is roughly what I get |
| 01:10:08 | Cloud | i had thought that mp3/ogg were small |
| 01:10:11 | Cloud | boy was i wrong |
| 01:10:19 | VerxHome | what do you mean? |
| 01:10:38 | VerxHome | they are small |
| 01:10:52 | VerxHome | what I should do is convert these ogg vorbis files to mono somehow |
| 01:10:58 | Cloud | smallest ogg i got from a cd was 1.7 meg on the lowest quality |
| 01:11:02 | VerxHome | no real need for stereo on an audiobook |
| 01:11:06 | SirPsycho-home | i did some tests and they are smaller than mp3s |
| 01:11:16 | Cloud | yes that they are SirPsycho-home |
| 01:11:24 | VerxHome | and that would give me an hour of audio in under 7.5MB |
| 01:11:47 | VerxHome | does ogg support mono? |
| 01:11:51 | SirPsycho-home | audiobooks have an advantage because they are basically mono |
| 01:11:59 | Cloud | i think so but eww |
| 01:12:12 | VerxHome | Cloud: Audiobooks aren't stereo to begin with |
| 01:12:55 | VerxHome | ok, I just got an 8 hour audiobook down to 93MB |
| 01:12:59 | VerxHome | it is still stereo |
| 01:13:19 | VerxHome | so if I can get it to mono, I should be able to fit the entire audiobook onto my 64MB MMC card |
| 01:13:40 | VerxHome | one thing I love is running samba on my ipaq |
| 01:13:51 | VerxHome | makes my ipaq into a CF/MMC card reader/writer |
| 01:13:51 | VerxHome | :) |
| 01:19:28 | Tharin | what do people use to display graphics when programming games for the zaurus? windows=directx......zaurus=?? |
| 01:22:22 | darienm | I want to say "frame buffer" but not sure that's entirely correct |
| 01:22:56 | Tharin | hmmm |
| 01:25:42 | darienm | I've seen many references to it -- in discussions about development within Qtopia, as well as applications such as fbvncserver (frame buffer vnc server) |
| 01:26:26 | darienm | http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/FrameBuffer.html#00 |
| 01:27:42 | darienm | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=zaurus+framebuffer&spell=1 |
| 01:29:25 | SirPsycho-home | anyone play with the fbset command ever? |
| 01:29:50 | darienm | and its supposed to do what? |
| 01:30:11 | SirPsycho-home | run it =) if you supply no args it prints current state |
| 01:30:25 | SirPsycho-home | from what i read you can set stuff |
| 01:30:53 | darienm | groovy |
| 01:31:28 | darienm | -76 ?? |
| 01:31:37 | darienm | that supposed to be the rotation? |
| 01:31:53 | SirPsycho-home | i havent a clue.. found the command last nite reading busybox docs.. |
| 01:32:09 | darienm | I understand most of it, excet the -76 |
| 01:32:28 | SirPsycho-home | i was more interested in the "accel false" =) if it was true would it be faster? heh |
| 01:33:14 | SirPsycho-home | also was wondering if you changed geometry could ya make it have a bigger virutal screen and the 320x240 viewable |
| 01:33:14 | darienm | fbset: mode readiing not compiled in |
| 01:33:28 | darienm | It only displays - cant set through this binary |
| 01:33:34 | SirPsycho-home | oh well |
| 01:33:42 | darienm | my guess, of course. |
| 01:36:12 | Tharin | anoyne here have pyqt working on their Z |
| 01:36:31 | darienm | Not yet. |
| 01:36:39 | Tharin | have it installed? |
| 01:37:00 | darienm | I have just about everything else running... but one of my main goals is getting X11 up |
| 01:37:24 | darienm | I'm having some difficulty installing a few of the newer/larger packages: perl, mysql, X11 |
| 01:37:25 | Tharin | I have been having a lot of trouble getting pyqt working correctly |
| 01:37:36 | darienm | I'm thinking of doing a hard-reflash and starting fresh. |
| 01:37:53 | darienm | But I have most everything else running smooth. |
| 01:38:17 | darienm | My main problem is I started installing a lot of stuff on the built-in storage before I got my 128 MB SD card. |
| 01:38:22 | Tharin | have you tried getting pyqt working |
| 01:38:25 | SirPsycho-home | grrr.. ok.. i was editing a file on my Z using vi (over a ssh connection) and the Z suspended.. (thus dropping my ssh connection).. now I am no longer able to vi the file again (it says it is busy).. anyone know how to make it unbusy? |
| 01:38:33 | darienm | So then I had to move things off, shuffle around, etc. |
| 01:38:51 | darienm | There is usually a lock-type file in the same directory. |
| 01:38:57 | darienm | you need to # ls -a |
| 01:39:03 | darienm | To see it, it starts with a . |
| 01:39:23 | Tharin | brb |
| 01:39:34 | darienm | Then you just delete that file.... |
| 01:39:46 | SirPsycho-home | there is no such lock file |
| 01:40:01 | darienm | hrm |
| 01:40:27 | SirPsycho-home | i have tried vi -r but that didnt work |
| 01:40:40 | Austin | Which vi clone is this? |
| 01:40:44 | SirPsycho-home | elvis |
| 01:40:50 | Austin | Then shouldn't the lockfile be <file>~? |
| 01:42:18 | SirPsycho-home | i dont see one.. |
| 01:42:47 | SirPsycho-home | i just did a ls -alR / and there is nothing matching that name cept my file |
| 01:43:20 | SirPsycho-home | i have also completely rebooted |
| 01:44:32 | darienm | Check for files in /tmp/elv* |
| 01:44:40 | darienm | perhaps they have something to do with it |
| 01:45:07 | SirPsycho-home | ding! |
| 01:45:14 | darienm | Whee. I got one right. |
| 01:45:15 | SirPsycho-home | ok.. i removed elv* |
| 01:45:23 | SirPsycho-home | now i can edit |
| 01:45:44 | darienm | I found some LARGE files in there earlier. a few hundred K worth. |
| 01:45:50 | darienm | I wiped them. I was doing housecleaning. |
| 01:46:02 | SirPsycho-home | i discovered that on a reboot that it doesnt wipe /tmp too =) |
| 01:46:02 | darienm | I also found a MEG of a .ram file from my experiment with qcopilot |
| 01:46:11 | darienm | sitting in /home/root/.qcopilot/ |
| 01:46:33 | darienm | In order to use qpose effectively, I need an 8 MB swap file. |
| 01:46:38 | darienm | So I was cleaning stuff up to make room. |
| 01:46:42 | darienm | Now I have 13.9 MB free |
| 02:26:50 | nelazul | wow this channel is dead |
| 02:27:05 | ][N-Flux | zzzZZZzzzZZZzzz... |
| 02:27:10 | TCLmeElmo | yes it is |
| 02:34:33 | VerxHome | cool |
| 02:34:53 | VerxHome | I just converted an 8 hour audio book to mono ogg vorbis compression |
| 02:35:01 | VerxHome | 30MB for an 8 hour audiobook |
| 02:35:13 | VerxHome | I can fit that on my 64MB MMC card with ease! |
| 02:38:16 | Cloud | sheesh windows takes almost a gig of space |
| 02:38:18 | Cloud | bleh |
| 02:39:10 | NeoTron | VerxHome: hey, might have something that I want you to test |
| 02:39:17 | VerxHome | wassatt? |
| 02:39:23 | NeoTron | game |
| 02:39:29 | NeoTron | that might blit correctly on 3800 |
| 02:39:32 | VerxHome | does it exit now? |
| 02:39:36 | VerxHome | oh, kick butt |
| 02:39:40 | VerxHome | just lemme at it |
| 02:40:12 | NeoTron | not quite ready but. :P |
| 02:40:18 | NeoTron | and no, I haven't fixed OPIE. ;-) |
| 02:40:26 | VerxHome | oh, hehehe |
| 02:40:32 | VerxHome | anytime you want me to test something |
| 02:40:38 | VerxHome | best way to reach me is email |
| 02:40:43 | | VerxHome: i'm not following you... |
| 02:40:43 | VerxHome | ibot will lead you to me |
| 02:40:47 | | i guess verxhome is see VerxWork |
| 02:40:47 | VerxHome | ibot, verxhome |
| 02:40:53 | | verxwork is mailto:verxion@pobox.com |
| 02:40:53 | VerxHome | ibot, verxwork |
| 02:41:00 | VerxHome | so there ya have it |
| 02:49:18 | NeoTron | ok, ready soon I think. :P |
| 02:53:18 | VerxHome | man, ogg rocks |
| 02:53:29 | Cloud | hehe |
| 02:53:36 | VerxHome | seriously! |
| 02:53:39 | VerxHome | I mean, think about it |
| 02:53:45 | VerxHome | an ENTIRE audio book right on your Z! |
| 02:54:01 | VerxHome | in my case, it is on my iPAQ, but it isn't any different on the Z |
| 02:54:07 | Cloud | i don't use those but...songs its good for too |
| 02:54:16 | VerxHome | true |
| 02:54:39 | Cloud | now that i got it all working with alot of help from this room ;) |
| 02:54:59 | Cloud | foolish qtopia and foolish me is dangerous combination |
| 02:55:06 | VerxHome | heh |
| 02:55:16 | Cloud | but i learn as i mess up so... |
| 02:55:28 | VerxHome | took me a bit to figure out the best way to convert these things, but I got it now. :) |
| 02:55:44 | Cloud | do you do it on windows or linux? |
| 02:56:08 | Cloud | i tried a demo program to rip the oggs but it ran out before 1 cd was complete |
| 02:56:20 | Cloud | kinda not much to test it out |
| 02:56:28 | VerxHome | I use linux for server oriented stuff, windows for my gui |
| 02:56:44 | VerxHome | I found plugins for winamp that make the convertion process as simple as drag and drop |
| 02:56:57 | Cloud | really? |
| 02:57:09 | Cloud | so i could drag song from my cd and poof its an ogg? |
| 02:57:35 | VerxHome | haven't tried that yet |
| 02:57:40 | VerxHome | but yes, it should be just that easy |
| 02:57:49 | VerxHome | I am converting mp3's directly into oggs |
| 02:58:33 | Cloud | i don't have any mp3s but have some cds |
| 02:59:12 | Cloud | i tried downloading some mp3 at halloween to get some halloween music to play for the kids |
| 02:59:16 | VerxHome | same basic deal |
| 02:59:20 | Cloud | most of the songs had the ends cut off |
| 03:10:21 | NeoTron | darn verx left |
| 03:39:37 | NeoTron | eek |
| 03:39:56 | NeoTron | I don't always get a focus out event in PurpleBlaster for some reason |
| 03:39:58 | NeoTron | why I wonder, why |
| 03:52:22 | kergoth | re |
| 03:53:00 | ljp | hey kergoth.. done a cvs co lately? |
| 03:53:06 | kergoth | yep, earlier today |
| 03:56:09 | ljp | you missed al lthe fun of trying to rename qpe to opie |
| 03:57:41 | kergoth | ah the launcher binary and shit? i was following the cvs logs. heh |
| 03:58:38 | ljp | ya.. they tried all kinds of other crazy stuff |
| 03:58:52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:58:56 | kergoth | i think i'm glad i missed it |
| 03:58:58 | kergoth | ;-) |
| 03:59:02 | ljp | its got permissions now tho ;) |
| 03:59:06 | treke|home | kergoth : found my ipaq :) |
| 03:59:16 | kergoth | treke|home: nice.. |
| 03:59:24 | treke|home | is much relieved |
| 03:59:50 | treke|home | left it on the counter at my parents :) |
| 04:00:01 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:00:11 | treke|home | was babysitting their dock over the weekend |
| 04:00:14 | treke|home | er dog |
| 04:01:06 | ljp | would have been more interesting babysitting their dock |
| 04:01:15 | treke|home | hehe |
| 04:02:30 | Tharin | anyone here have pyqt working? |
| 04:02:58 | treke|home | my personal wish is that pyqt would disappear off of the face of the earth |
| 04:03:15 | Tharin | whys that? |
| 04:03:55 | treke|home | pygtk turned X on pdas into low memory hell. Hate to see it happen to qtopia also |
| 04:04:23 | Tharin | hm |
| 04:04:49 | Tharin | was hoping to be able to write apps with a gui on my Z |
| 04:05:37 | treke|home | Tharin : it should work just fine |
| 04:06:05 | Tharin | I installed it but didn't get the example working |
| 04:06:14 | treke|home | Tharin : The only limitations being the lack of bindings to the Qtopia classes ( fileselector, AppLnk) |
| 04:08:29 | Tharin | I tried using the code from http://www.opendocspublishing.com/pyqt/index.lxp?lxpwrap=x1067%2ehtm but I couldn |
| 04:08:37 | Tharin | couldn't get it to work |
| 04:11:51 | Tharin | any advice treke|home |
| 04:12:25 | treke|home | is this a zaurus or an ipaq? |
| 04:12:44 | Tharin | zaurus |
| 04:12:59 | treke|home | where did you get pyton from? |
| 04:13:36 | Tharin | I can't frekin remember.. |
| 04:13:45 | Tharin | I thought it was from riverbanking... |
| 04:13:48 | treke|home | ok |
| 04:14:00 | Tharin | but if I got it from sourceforge it would be a different version right? |
| 04:14:22 | treke|home | probably |
| 04:14:34 | treke|home | what erors do you get when you try running pyqt programs? |
| 04:14:54 | Tharin | can't find app=QApplication(sys.argv) |
| 04:15:07 | Tharin | been a few days since I've tried to runit so... |
| 04:15:13 | Tharin | run it. |
| 04:15:44 | treke|home | no import errors? |
| 04:16:23 | Tharin | one sec.. let me see if I still have the code in my Z |
| 04:16:26 | Speedy2 | Yo all |
| 04:16:51 | W|GGL|T | hey |
| 04:17:47 | Tharin | treke|home yeah your right I have an import problem |
| 04:18:27 | Tharin | treke|home if I uninstall my version of python and install riverbank.co's version will I have to uninstall pyqt as well or should it just work? |
| 04:20:05 | treke|home | you should uninstall pyqt |
| 04:20:13 | treke|home | ipkg is finicky |
| 04:20:55 | Tharin | and python as well right |
| 04:20:56 | Tharin | ? |
| 04:21:11 | treke|home | right |
| 04:21:19 | treke|home | uninstall everything python/pyqt related |
| 04:21:39 | Tharin | then install python first and qt after correct? |
| 04:21:49 | treke|home | right |
| 04:22:24 | Tharin | thanks for your help =) |
| 04:22:29 | Tharin | gotta help my brother cook |
| 04:22:30 | Tharin | heh |
| 04:22:42 | treke|home | no problem |
| 04:22:56 | Tharin | know of a good text editor that will let me save as *.py |
| 04:23:02 | Tharin | other than vi' |
| 04:23:32 | | beta is send a mail to mailto:info@eongames.com if you want to be part of beta tests of future releases. |
| 04:23:32 | NeoTron | ibot: beta |
| 04:23:36 | treke|home | nope. vi is the only good text editor :) |
| 04:23:42 | Tharin | haha |
| 04:23:47 | Tharin | real linux eh |
| 04:23:48 | Tharin | =) |
| 04:23:52 | Tharin | erm.... |
| 04:24:02 | Tharin | which package do I download and install? |
| 04:24:07 | Tharin | http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/zaurus/download.php |
| 04:24:23 | treke|home | Not sure |
| 04:25:24 | Tharin | I suppose the top one on the list... |
| 04:25:27 | treke|home | I would guess python is all you need, since none of the others look to important |
| 04:25:33 | Tharin | do you know what zlib is? |
| 04:25:46 | treke|home | zlib? a common compression libary |
| 04:26:52 | Tharin | do you know much about the proc file? |
| 04:27:19 | treke|home | proc file? |
| 04:27:26 | treke|home | you mean the /proc directory? |
| 04:27:35 | Tharin | yes |
| 04:27:42 | treke|home | what about it? |
| 04:27:52 | Tharin | I have all these directories in it that have random numbers... |
| 04:27:57 | treke|home | thats fine |
| 04:28:05 | Tharin | do I need them? |
| 04:28:09 | treke|home | yes |
| 04:28:12 | Tharin | why are they there? |
| 04:28:14 | treke|home | you cant get rid of them |
| 04:28:18 | Tharin | hahah |
| 04:28:28 | Tharin | they all seem to add to the same directory... |
| 04:28:45 | treke|home | Its a linux thang. Thats a representation of your computer |
| 04:29:01 | treke|home | it doesnt really exist ( a device driver is generating it on the fly) |
| 04:29:26 | Tharin | I'm looking to clear out some space any ideas of where to look to delete some things? other than /tmp |
| 04:29:45 | treke|home | I dont think there is anything to clear |
| 04:30:01 | treke|home | everything important should be symlinks into the rom |
| 04:30:26 | treke|home | (from the little I know of the Zaurus' setup) |
| 04:30:52 | Tharin | thanks again for your help buddy... been real nice |
| 04:31:04 | treke|home | no problem. I aim to please :) |
| 04:55:53 | NeoTron | anyone want to beta test PurpleBlaster? |
| 04:56:13 | treke|home | purpleblaster? |
| 04:57:40 | NeoTron | check http://www.purplepecker.com |
| 04:57:55 | treke|home | oh, that is so not a url to check from work :) |
| 04:59:02 | KhensU | ooh cool |
| 05:07:16 | VerxHome | dcc send me neotron |
| 05:07:22 | VerxHome | or else gimme a url |
| 05:07:28 | VerxHome | that would likely be easiest |
| 05:09:02 | NeoTron | ok |
| 05:09:48 | NeoTron | if it crashes, I'll play around some with it |
| 05:10:04 | VerxHome | downloading now |
| 05:10:44 | ][N-Flux | hey Neo |
| 05:10:48 | ][N-Flux | long time no see |
| 05:10:50 | NeoTron | hey |
| 05:11:29 | ][N-Flux | is gonna sell his 5000d |
| 05:11:35 | ][N-Flux | need to get the retail |
| 05:11:50 | Cloud | you'll probly be a bit happier with it |
| 05:11:56 | ][N-Flux | yeah |
| 05:12:02 | ][N-Flux | running outta space on the D |
| 05:13:58 | VerxHome | error loading shared libraries |
| 05:14:12 | VerxHome | libSDL-1.2.so.0 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 05:14:30 | NeoTron | ah dammit |
| 05:14:34 | NeoTron | hold on |
| 05:14:38 | VerxHome | k |
| 05:14:51 | NeoTron | actually, you may install libsdl from http://eongames.com/downloads/feed/ |
| 05:16:33 | VerxHome | installed it |
| 05:16:38 | VerxHome | and got the very same message |
| 05:17:02 | NeoTron | ok, hrm |
| 05:17:11 | NeoTron | well, I'll fix a binary version |
| 05:18:05 | VerxHome | k |
| 05:28:43 | VerxHome | ok, installing again |
| 05:32:11 | VerxHome | ok neotron |
| 05:32:14 | VerxHome | it doesn't crash |
| 05:32:23 | VerxHome | it still leaves the icon hanging around |
| 05:32:28 | VerxHome | and I can't figure out how the heck to shoot |
| 05:32:36 | VerxHome | but other than that, it seems to run awesome |
| 05:32:40 | VerxHome | very quick graphics |
| 05:32:50 | VerxHome | I did get one cl error: |
| 05:33:08 | VerxHome | QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: ../plugins/fontfactories |
| 05:36:00 | VerxHome | well, gotta sl33p |
| 05:36:23 | NeoTron | cool |
| 05:36:25 | NeoTron | it runs |
| 05:36:31 | NeoTron | VerxHome: still here? |
| 05:36:37 | VerxHome | yup |
| 05:36:41 | VerxHome | I can't shoot durnit! |
| 05:36:46 | NeoTron | Shooting: configure the keys and it might be easier |
| 05:36:47 | NeoTron | perhaps |
| 05:36:55 | NeoTron | but I am not sure what the key symbols are on the ipaq |
| 05:37:10 | NeoTron | i.s what buttons there are and what (qt) key symbol they generate |
| 05:37:26 | VerxHome | the graphics seem VERY fast |
| 05:37:34 | VerxHome | actually - the fastest I have seen yet to be honest |
| 05:37:52 | NeoTron | assembler blitting routine for one |
| 05:37:58 | VerxHome | damn |
| 05:38:00 | NeoTron | not sure how it compares in speed to my c one |
| 05:38:15 | VerxHome | wish you would write an assembler framebuffer or whatever opie uses to talk to the display |
| 05:38:20 | VerxHome | that would really be awesome |
| 05:38:24 | NeoTron | looking at the gcc assembler output the _length_ of the routines are similar |
| 05:38:24 | VerxHome | I would pay money for that |
| 05:39:17 | NeoTron | ah damn |
| 05:39:21 | NeoTron | my harddrive locked up again |
| 05:39:25 | NeoTron | I wodner why the hell that happens |
| 05:39:29 | NeoTron | it simply stops responding |
| 05:39:33 | NeoTron | I will have to reboot |
| 05:39:46 | VerxHome | I tried defining the keys |
| 05:39:48 | VerxHome | didna work |
| 05:40:07 | NeoTron | ok, I need to get the keysyms so I can add them |
| 05:40:17 | VerxHome | it doesn't recognize my enter button |
| 05:40:21 | VerxHome | return is the keysym |
| 05:40:25 | NeoTron | ok |
| 05:40:26 | NeoTron | that I can fix |
| 05:40:31 | VerxHome | as a result, I only have 4 keys |
| 05:40:36 | VerxHome | and am hung on defining the shields |
| 05:41:20 | NeoTron | it needs... 6 keys |
| 05:41:31 | NeoTron | do you have a d-pad |
| 05:41:38 | NeoTron | if so, that's 4 keys right there |
| 05:41:47 | NeoTron | i.e left right, forward=thrust, back=sheidl |
| 05:41:59 | NeoTron | but I'm adding return. bb in a few mins after reboot |
| 05:42:04 | VerxHome | I have dpad |
| 05:46:48 | NeoTron | is back |
| 05:46:50 | NeoTron | sugar heard VerxHome |
| 05:46:51 | Sugar | NeoTron: I last heard VerxHome on IRC 4m 47s ago in channel #zaurus saying: I have dpad |
| 05:46:52 | | NeoTron: huh? |
| 05:46:52 | NeoTron | ibot heard VerxHome |
| 05:58:07 | NeoTron | VerxHome: still here? |
| 05:58:21 | VerxHome | yes |
| 06:18:08 | VerxHome | ok |
| 06:18:16 | VerxHome | it recognizes the return key now |
| 06:18:24 | VerxHome | but I have no other key to use for menu |
| 06:18:33 | NeoTron | what keys do you have? |
| 06:18:51 | VerxHome | I have calendar, contacts, email, arrow |
| 06:18:53 | VerxHome | record |
| 06:19:00 | VerxHome | joypad (4 directions) |
| 06:19:03 | VerxHome | and return |
| 06:19:13 | VerxHome | oh, record worked |
| 06:19:14 | VerxHome | cool |
| 06:19:14 | NeoTron | so what have you used? |
| 06:19:36 | NeoTron | there is no button on the joypad btw? |
| 06:20:20 | VerxHome | the joypad has 4 directions |
| 06:20:23 | VerxHome | and center is return |
| 06:20:34 | NeoTron | aha |
| 06:20:42 | VerxHome | now if ONLY your games had their icon go away when I exited |
| 06:20:42 | VerxHome | :( |
| 06:20:54 | NeoTron | don't blame me, sorry |
| 06:21:01 | VerxHome | I have to restart opie everytime my wife plays eligo |
| 06:21:07 | VerxHome | she is addicted to that game |
| 06:21:15 | NeoTron | now I was going to try to use QMainWindow instead of QWidget but I doubt that changes anything |
| 06:22:18 | NeoTron | as it is now it seems like I have to choose either working OPIE or working Qtopia |
| 06:22:41 | VerxHome | hrm |
| 06:22:59 | VerxHome | I don't understand why every other qtopia app I have ever run (which is pretty much all of them) exit fine |
| 06:23:04 | VerxHome | except for the ones you have. |
| 06:23:20 | VerxHome | oh well |
| 06:23:23 | VerxHome | I need to go to sleep |
| 06:23:24 | VerxHome | see ya |
| 06:23:53 | NeoTron | thing is, even opie prefs do tht |
| 06:24:00 | NeoTron | according to whomever was hackig on opie |
| 06:54:19 | ZKhensU | hmm |
| 07:40:23 | W|GGL|T | is away: I'm busy smoking a blunt or sleeping or something |
| 07:40:33 | W|GGL|T | nite |
| 07:40:35 | treke|home | VerxHome : familiar has a new roadmap up. Non root accounts are coming .6 |
| 07:41:59 | SirPsycho-home | is familiar like open Z? |
| 07:44:34 | treke|home | open Z is familiar + Zaurus drivers + opie, plus some custimizations |
| 07:44:47 | treke|home | familiar is a linux distribution |
| 07:45:18 | jrm | Anybody here use the kismet-qt gui? |
| 07:46:22 | jrm | The only way I can get it to do anything is to start kismet from the command line |
| 07:46:24 | jrm | then open gui |
| 07:46:37 | jrm | but as soon as I do that, it stops working |
| 08:28:26 | dc_ | :/ |
| 09:38:34 | XavX|busy | playing with OZ |
| 10:22:29 | mark | catalin: hi |
| 13:17:46 | mark | hello |
| 14:25:20 | jyon | hi |
| 14:26:03 | jyon | i am wanting to ask a question about input to someone running qtopia on a zaruus |
| 14:26:23 | XavX|away | go ahead |
| 14:26:36 | jyon | i am looking at the faq, and i see where you can 'customize' input |
| 14:26:51 | jyon | (setup handwriting input) is what is at the top of the box |
| 14:27:08 | jyon | can you map what you draw, to _any_ unicode character? |
| 14:27:24 | jyon | ie: could i map a smiley face to "A" ? |
| 14:28:04 | XavierXeon | hmm... good question. my handwriting is so bad i never used the handwriting input |
| 14:28:25 | jyon | or say, something else? .. i am wanting to know if you are limited to roman characters, or if you can use anything from the unicode table |
| 14:28:41 | Cloud | 'mornin |
| 14:28:53 | XavierXeon | hi CLoud |
| 14:28:58 | jyon | basically, i need to use more than english. and if the grafitti method works like that, i can just implement the other language myself ... |
| 14:29:51 | XavierXeon | you want kani charecters to be recognised by the handwriting ? |
| 14:30:07 | jyon | actually, tibetan. |
| 14:30:14 | jyon | kanji would take too long to implement |
| 14:30:23 | jyon | i would hafta sit there for like 1800 characters.. or more |
| 14:30:29 | jyon | i would die of old age before finishing :) |
| 14:30:59 | jyon | could you try mapping something silly to a random unicode character and see if it works in the text editor? |
| 14:31:29 | XavierXeon | i have thrown out the handwriting input ... sorry |
| 14:31:35 | jyon | ah, ok |
| 14:31:52 | jyon | afaik, there is no japanese input for qtopia yet.. |
| 14:32:14 | XavierXeon | there is the kani learning tool |
| 14:32:37 | ljp | sharp is planning on releasing linux zaurus in Japan sometime soon |
| 14:32:45 | jyon | i saw that.. only that doesnt appear to have any input method. its just a dictionary/lookup tool |
| 14:32:58 | jyon | ljp: oh? that would be nice. |
| 14:33:11 | jyon | ljp: since the zaurus here runs wince. |
| 14:33:48 | XavierXeon | all the japanese models ? |
| 14:33:53 | ljp | someone hacked korean support into jumpx input method |
| 14:33:53 | jyon | yes |
| 14:34:06 | jyon | ljp: what is jumpx? |
| 14:34:41 | jyon | fwiw, zaurus has been a japanese product for a long time. its new to the western market. im really surprised sharp did the linux/oss path. its cool though. |
| 14:34:42 | ljp | an alternatve input method.. the korean input is in opie |
| 14:34:54 | ljp | yep |
| 14:35:40 | jyon | got a linux/url? |
| 14:35:45 | jyon | erf, link |
| 14:37:28 | jyon | i guess ill just hafta come by from time to time .. and ask until someone can test the input customization thingy for me .. |
| 14:37:53 | XavierXeon | try this http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=230 |
| 14:38:25 | jyon | checks |
| 14:40:05 | jyon | kinda.. that extends the keyboard. but i want to go from handwriting->text |
| 14:40:59 | XavierXeon | try later when more people are awake, they might be able to help you |
| 14:41:22 | jyon | yeah, ill go to bed and try back in a 10 hrs or so |
| 14:41:51 | jyon | what im afraid of is that the menu for what you map your handwriting to, is limited to roman characters only. if so, games off. |
| 14:42:35 | XavierXeon | try the openzaurus rom with opie |
| 14:42:46 | XavierXeon | they are more flexible |
| 14:43:01 | jyon | ok, that is something i havent heard of |
| 14:43:21 | XavierXeon | http://sourceforge.net/projects/openzaurus/ |
| 14:44:03 | XavierXeon | make sure you have the sharp rom in case you want to get back to it |
| 14:44:36 | jyon | well, i havent purchased a zaurus yet. i wont until i find out if i can do this kind of stuff. |
| 14:44:50 | jyon | but thanks for the info. ill just idle here for a while. |
| 14:45:20 | XavierXeon | try channel "#opie" and ask them if it is possible |
| 14:45:54 | XavX|away | reading a book |
| 14:46:45 | jyon | thanks |
| 15:02:16 | ljp | jyon: it appears that handwritting can be trained for any squiggle to be any latin1 alpha, not sure if other character sets can be used |
| 15:12:27 | W|GGL|T | is back (gone 07:32:02) |
| 15:14:41 | Cloud | 'mornin W|GGL|T |
| 15:29:30 | W|GGL|T | good morning Cloud |
| 15:32:38 | Cloud | how are you today? |
| 15:33:18 | W|GGL|T | a bit run down...shoulda went to be earlier last nite |
| 15:33:32 | W|GGL|T | but otherwise, its a beautiful morning |
| 15:33:36 | W|GGL|T | and you? |
| 15:33:46 | Cloud | same same :) |
| 15:34:01 | W|GGL|T | hehe |
| 15:44:47 | W|GGL|T | just great... |
| 15:45:59 | W|GGL|T | some girl comes into #slackware acting all ditzy and the whole channel loses their minds |
| 15:46:08 | W|GGL|T | no more linux chat at ALL |
| 15:46:18 | bill2or3 | they've never seen a girl. |
| 15:46:18 | Cloud | hehe |
| 15:47:13 | treke|home | they still havent |
| 15:47:21 | treke|home | its probably a 40 year old man |
| 15:47:28 | W|GGL|T | lol |
| 15:50:55 | Cloud | haha |
| 15:56:04 | wembly | wigglit: gawd i hate that :) |
| 16:02:14 | XavierXeon | argh...loosing WLAN connection on OZ again |
| 16:15:11 | bill2or3 | hhh, amazon.com lowered thier price to $393.80 |
| 16:15:39 | Cloud | wow |
| 16:15:57 | Rince | zaurus? |
| 16:15:59 | bill2or3 | yeah |
| 16:16:01 | bill2or3 | cheap huh |
| 16:24:07 | zecke|away | tux_mike: did you extend the xml format from Opie addressbook? |
| 16:24:16 | zecke|away | tux_mike: did you update the journal too? |
| 16:24:35 | tux_mike | nope. i haven't done anything with the backend from the TT sources |
| 16:24:46 | zecke|away | ok |
| 16:25:27 | zecke|away | tux_mike: is it possible that you write down a list with a complete set of XML attributes for Contacts? |
| 16:25:49 | tux_mike | yah, it shouldn't be hard to find out |
| 16:26:28 | zecke|away | tux_mike: yes just fill out a complete address. and then look at the addressbook.xml... |
| 16:26:39 | tux_mike | yah |
| 16:26:52 | zecke|away | tux_mike: when migrating to a database we can make better schemes if we know what will be present |
| 16:26:53 | tux_mike | you want all the tags to switch over to xmltree? |
| 16:28:30 | zecke|away | tux_mike: no to design a rdbms scheme for Opie |
| 16:28:38 | tux_mike | ah, cool |
| 16:28:45 | zecke|away | tux_mike: weren't you present at the talks? |
| 16:28:56 | tux_mike | don't think so :*) |
| 16:29:12 | zecke|away | tux_mike: opies libqpe, libopie will use a db as backend. The api is uneffected |
| 16:29:25 | zecke|away | tux_mike: it will come with tools to export and import existing data |
| 16:29:34 | tux_mike | cool |
| 16:29:41 | zecke|away | tux_mike: a launcher layer to still work with intellisync and QtopiaDesktop |
| 16:29:54 | tux_mike | that's good |
| 16:30:22 | zecke|away | tux_mike: we're evaluating dbs now and also trying to get a decent scheme but this takes time |
| 16:30:54 | tux_mike | i noticed that the version number of libqpe.so in opie changed to 0.9.1, i don't think that's what should have changed, i think we should advance libqpe from 1.5.0 and change libopie to 0.9.1 |
| 16:31:08 | tux_mike | i talked to harlekin about this yesterday |
| 16:31:25 | zecke|away | tux_mike: this was already fixed.. at least he told me today |
| 16:35:36 | tux_mike | zecke: do you know, by any chance, a quick tutorial on how to make an operator in C++? |
| 16:36:21 | BigBoss | yo |
| 16:36:24 | tux_mike | hey bb |
| 16:37:12 | Rince | hi BigBoss |
| 16:37:44 | BigBoss | what's good today? |
| 16:38:04 | ljp | QSockets |
| 16:38:52 | BigBoss | YUMMY |
| 16:39:07 | BigBoss | seems like we have a lot of issues with those between Qt versions |
| 16:39:32 | tux_mike | anyone else know of a quick tutorial on making operators in C++? |
| 16:40:31 | XavierXeon | tux_mike : http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/tut4-2.html |
| 16:40:48 | XavierXeon | a bit crappy but ok if you now C++ |
| 16:41:16 | zecke|away | tux_mike: opiemail |
| 16:42:08 | mark | hi all |
| 16:42:15 | | Test Failed! |
| 16:42:15 | mark | ibot: test |
| 16:42:28 | tux_mike | mark: what is that test? |
| 16:42:41 | mark | tux_mike: to see if I'm still online or not |
| 16:42:42 | tux_mike | xaver, zecke: thanks :) |
| 17:03:08 | | Test Failed! |
| 17:03:08 | ljp | ibot: test |
| 17:03:25 | ljp | that means I'm not online? |
| 17:03:30 | ljp | :D |
| 17:04:03 | | Test cancelled. |
| 17:04:03 | tux_mike | ibot test |
| 17:04:13 | tux_mike | hrm... i cancelled the test |
| 17:04:15 | tux_mike | woo |
| 17:15:49 | mark | anyresponse is a positive response :) |
| 17:16:45 | Cloud | response to what? |
| 17:23:34 | mark | ibot's test |
| 17:26:28 | XavieXeon | anybody read this : http://www.msnbc.com/news/770511.asp?cp1=1 ? |
| 17:29:20 | mark | XavierXeon|Z: 'Stops viruses and worms. Palladium won't run unauthorized programs, so viruses can't trash protected parts of your system.' |
| 17:29:59 | mark | so, only M$ authorised programs can run. great :) |
| 17:30:05 | darienm|away | "Microsoft is also publishing the system¹s source code. ³We are trying to be transparent in all this,²" |
| 17:30:07 | y0ssarian | lol, i like how they want to delete spam at the OS level |
| 17:30:24 | darienm|away | open source from M$ ?? |
| 17:30:36 | mark | 'shared source' |
| 17:30:36 | mark | :) |
| 17:30:50 | darienm|away | ANY source is surprising. |
| 17:30:53 | XavieXeon | yeah right ! and everybody has to buy new hardware + software. |
| 17:31:12 | mark | what the hell are these special CPUs meant to do ? |
| 17:31:27 | y0ssarian | mark: restrict fair use |
| 17:31:39 | mark | Others will note that the Windows-only Palladium |
| 17:31:39 | XavieXeon | mark : you are not supposed to know. it is secure ! |
| 17:31:45 | y0ssarian | first and formost... |
| 17:31:54 | mark | XavieXeon: heh |
| 17:32:36 | XavieXeon | well if you know what the special CPU#s are doing you can find a way for them not to do it. |
| 17:33:06 | XavieXeon | therefore nobody should know to prevent hackers/crackers from utilizing them |
| 17:33:21 | mark | idiots. just coz they can't write a semi secure OS.... |
| 17:33:25 | zecke|away | hmm Microsoft opened PocketPC.. didn't they? |
| 17:33:26 | XavieXeon | M$ logic |
| 17:35:25 | mark | zecke|away: did they? |
| 17:36:04 | zecke|away | mark: anyone that could identify with a M$ passport could download it. This was on heise.de newticker ages ago |
| 17:36:12 | Cloud | the worse part is...people will buy into it |
| 17:36:36 | y0ssarian | i bet tehre w |
| 17:36:43 | Cloud | and leave their security to microsoft to avoid working at it |
| 17:36:58 | mark | zecke|away: the source or binaries? |
| 17:37:00 | Cloud | microsoft, who has a dismal record of security |
| 17:37:14 | y0ssarian | i bet there will be a special developer's edition of windows that lets you run unsigned binaries... |
| 17:37:26 | XavieXeon | I guess outlook will auto-authenticate email attachments ! |
| 17:37:32 | y0ssarian | which costs 3x as much |
| 17:39:35 | Cloud | One hurdle is getting people to trust Microsoft . To diffuse the inevitable skepticism, the Redmondites have begun educational briefings of industry groups, security experts, government agencies and civil-liberties watchdogs. (brainwashing techniques and cash might accomplish this) |
| 17:40:21 | Cloud | “I firmly believe we will be shipping with bugs,” says Paul England. |
| 17:40:49 | XavieXeon | there is even a special "microsft contact officer" at the university I work at |
| 17:40:55 | Cloud | microsoft's big pitch to rule the world |
| 17:41:16 | y0ssarian | XavieXeon: at mine too |
| 17:42:02 | XavieXeon | it is always fun to talk to that guy. our admin is a die hard linux fanatic |
| 17:42:29 | y0ssarian | well, my university is really big, i've never met ours... |
| 17:44:12 | XavieXeon | i work for an institute which is accociated to the university and we have our iwn network. the M$ guy visits us about once a month and tries to convince us to ditch our linux servers |
| 17:44:38 | Cloud | they're like the jehovah witnesses that show up at the door |
| 17:44:56 | y0ssarian | except more annoying? |
| 17:45:06 | Cloud | nods :) |
| 17:45:16 | y0ssarian | and with more wacky beliefs? |
| 17:45:51 | XavieXeon | and more money |
| 17:46:35 | Cloud | i have this picture in my mind...linux users working in basements.. hiding out...while microsoft searches out every nook and cranny to exterminate them |
| 17:47:30 | Cloud | buying off government officials to get them to squash linux...eventually making it illegal |
| 17:47:44 | XavieXeon | M$ even has plans to get rid of the http protocol, because it is "outdated" (meaning most http transfer works on unix/linux machines) |
| 17:49:01 | XavieXeon | Cloud : nobody in europe is buying it ! the german gouverment will calculate the results of the next election on linux machines |
| 17:49:17 | y0ssarian | XavieXeon: well, whatever they come out with, someone will implement it on linux and make it more stable, faster and more reliable |
| 17:50:03 | Cloud | that whole .net thing is pretty scary too |
| 17:50:03 | XavieXeon | yeah like the apic conroler on single prozessor boards : just ignore it ! |
| 17:50:30 | Cloud | well if hardware goes that way...will be hard to get around it |
| 17:51:40 | Cloud | wouldn't it? |
| 17:52:06 | XavieXeon | depends on the motherboard layout |
| 17:52:55 | Cloud | if all the chip makers do that paladin thing...would other os's be able to operate on it? |
| 17:53:18 | XavieXeon | if you have to go through the security chip you HAVE to utilize it. but ibm and hp will still want to sell their linux machines |
| 17:53:20 | Cloud | er palladium that is |
| 17:54:11 | XavieXeon | and if that does not help i will buy a mac (and run linux on it) |
| 17:54:33 | Cloud | true ;) |
| 17:55:03 | Cloud | i might have to retire and grow christmas trees and pumpkins :) |
| 17:55:24 | XavieXeon | Cloud : not to bad a career ! |
| 17:55:33 | Cloud | :) |
| 17:55:54 | XavieXeon | i can still go back to pen and paper to do my job |
| 17:56:01 | Cloud | what's your job? |
| 17:56:34 | ljp | thats classified |
| 17:56:35 | XavieXeon | theoretical physics. even though i am working in virtual reality at the moment |
| 17:56:41 | Cloud | wow |
| 17:57:09 | ljp | you mean your desk is in vr? :D |
| 17:57:49 | XavieXeon | no : vr with sterioscopic projection tracking system etc.. |
| 17:58:11 | XavieXeon | we did the ISS training module for ESA |
| 17:58:57 | Cloud | hmm i better start now growing the trees so they'll be ready when i retire |
| 17:59:39 | ljp | ahh you mean you need to wear those 3d glasses to get any work done! :D |
| 18:00:03 | XavieXeon | yeah its more psychedelic |
| 18:00:04 | ljp | heh vr desk |
| 18:00:26 | ljp | gives new meaning to shuffling papers |
| 18:02:40 | XavX|away | is reading abook, completely non digital |
| 18:03:54 | ljp | wow, they still make those? |
| 18:04:28 | y0ssarian | is thinking about starting a book today |
| 18:04:40 | y0ssarian | (reading one) |
| 18:04:54 | y0ssarian | but i have other stuff i should do first |
| 18:05:00 | y0ssarian | but the book looks so good |
| 18:21:41 | lowkey | hey kergoth, any word on the linksys wireless issue? |
| 18:21:49 | Cloud | wow that hurt! i crashed now my whole desktop is gone! |
| 18:21:53 | Cloud | hates windows |
| 18:23:20 | Cloud | oh this could be bad |
| 18:31:12 | Cloud-Z | killing 2 pc's in 2 days is not good |
| 18:32:20 | turtl | hello |
| 18:32:26 | Cloud-Z | hi |
| 18:34:58 | ljp | killing? |
| 18:36:17 | Cloud | whew.. restarting again did the trick |
| 18:36:21 | Cloud | thought i'd killed it |
| 18:36:29 | Cloud | got the blue screen of death |
| 18:36:40 | Cloud | shut it down and restarted it, my desktop was gone |
| 18:36:49 | Cloud | restarted it again and it is back |
| 18:37:00 | ljp | ahh the wonders of windows |
| 18:37:03 | Cloud | the other one i got errors while installing a game |
| 18:37:08 | Cloud | it locked up |
| 18:37:20 | Cloud | i had to shut it down hard and it wouldn't turn back on |
| 18:37:28 | Cloud | is my husband's pc |
| 18:37:50 | Cloud | he's quite proud of me ; |
| 18:38:34 | ljp | for reboot? |
| 18:38:45 | Cloud | no for killing his pc and not mine |
| 18:38:51 | Cloud | was being sarcastic |
| 18:39:19 | ljp | ya gotta do what ya gotta do.. |
| 18:39:23 | Cloud | hehe |
| 19:08:16 | BigBoss | is there a spell check library on the Zaurus already? |
| 19:08:23 | BigBoss | like in the exising mail client? |
| 19:08:33 | Cloud | hiya, not that i know of |
| 19:08:37 | treke|home | spall check? |
| 19:09:02 | BigBoss | no, not spall check, but rather "spell" check :) |
| 19:09:11 | treke|home | hehe |
| 19:09:33 | treke|home | if ispell exists in a library form, it might be workable |
| 19:09:44 | BigBoss | that's what I was thinking |
| 19:09:59 | BigBoss | I just wonder if spell check in our new email client would be worth having or not |
| 19:10:12 | treke|home | BigBoss : definitly |
| 19:10:44 | treke|home | the handwriting recognition is nice, but its still a bit shaky |
| 19:11:24 | BigBoss | I never even use the HW on it |
| 19:11:42 | treke|home | ah. Its my preferred method of input |
| 19:11:44 | BigBoss | actually I'm very fast at Graffiti, I need to train my Z to use that |
| 19:11:57 | treke|home | mine is trained to do semi graffiti |
| 19:11:58 | BigBoss | that's what I use on my Visor (well, it's the only option) |
| 19:11:59 | Cloud | can you do that? |
| 19:12:07 | BigBoss | it's actually not hard to do it |
| 19:12:18 | BigBoss | you can replace the keystrokes for letters with whatever you want |
| 19:12:20 | treke|home | Probably isnt accurate graffiti, but its what I remembered |
| 19:12:33 | BigBoss | just sit down with the graffiti manual and stroke it in :) |
| 19:12:45 | BigBoss | I really hate their letter pickboard |
| 19:13:11 | treke|home | Cloud: There should be a little pencil item on the input panel. That lets you set things like the keystrokes |
| 19:13:52 | treke|home | it also lets you switch to using a two pane panel ( upper and lower condensed together and you use a shift stroke) |
| 19:15:39 | Cloud | ah i've tried that handwriting thing. it never likes my letters |
| 19:16:09 | treke|home | Cloud : Its much better when you customize the strokes. Then it actually gets close |
| 19:18:24 | Cloud | i'll have to try it sometime ;) |
| 19:18:56 | treke|home | doesnt work well for the terminal though :) |
| 19:20:03 | Cloud | i wouldn't use it much anyway |
| 19:20:12 | Cloud | just for quick notes/ phone numbrs in a hurry |
| 19:25:40 | mark | hi all. Is there anyway I can stop people /whois'ing me to see which channels im on? |
| 19:26:03 | mark | </flood topic=OT> |
| 19:31:14 | Cloud | don't know mark |
| 19:31:43 | mark | don't work. /mode +i :) |
| 19:37:07 | codemnky | hello |
| 19:37:20 | mark | hi codemnky |
| 19:37:46 | codemnky | is there such a thing as a cellular pcmcia card for laptops? |
| 19:39:03 | mark | codemnky: you can get GSM cards |
| 19:41:45 | codemnky | what's a GSM card? :) |
| 19:41:55 | mark | GSM is the European cellular network |
| 19:42:19 | codemnky | oh |
| 19:42:30 | codemnky | i live in Florida, USA |
| 19:42:48 | Speedy2 | re |
| 19:42:54 | Cloud | hiya speedy |
| 19:43:01 | Speedy2 | Hi Cloud |
| 19:44:38 | whardier | wurd up peeps |
| 19:44:54 | Cloud | hiya whardier |
| 19:45:00 | whardier | hiya. |
| 19:45:13 | whardier | is waking up from stupidity |
| 19:46:37 | Speedy2 | What's up Clou? |
| 19:46:38 | Speedy2 | d |
| 19:46:48 | Cloud | not too much |
| 19:46:50 | Cloud | being lazy |
| 19:47:00 | Speedy2 | That's understandable |
| 19:47:00 | whardier | is gonna be ordering pizza here pretty damn soonish |
| 19:47:03 | Cloud | contemplating life |
| 19:47:33 | Speedy2 | Did you know that there is a PowerPC instruction "lfsux" ? |
| 19:47:36 | Speedy2 | (life sux...) |
| 19:47:57 | Cloud | and what does it do? |
| 19:48:01 | Cloud | blow up your pc? |
| 19:48:14 | Speedy2 | Load floating point shift, imediated unsigned, xtended or something |
| 19:48:24 | Speedy2 | lifsux I think it was |
| 19:48:28 | Speedy2 | load imediate... |
| 19:48:38 | Dilbert- | lo |
| 19:48:42 | Speedy2 | Hi Dilbert- |
| 20:15:19 | Twiun[updtCV] | hrmmm.... anyone know who makes Remedy? that nasty bug-tracking system? |
| 20:19:24 | Hellaenergy | waz upppppp! |
| 20:21:07 | Cloud | hiya |
| 20:21:16 | whardier | shoots Hellaenergy |
| 20:21:32 | whardier | feels bad.. he has no coupons to the pizza place |
| 20:21:57 | XavierXeon|Z | hmmm.....pizza |
| 20:22:02 | whardier | calls papa johns |
| 20:22:09 | Speedy2 | Papa dongs... |
| 20:23:10 | whardier | loves papa johns |
| 20:23:53 | Hellaenergy | is now defunct |
| 20:25:23 | whardier | pizza is now ordered |
| 20:25:33 | whardier | they like to give discounts around here for some reason |
| 20:25:46 | whardier | I dunno if I just order stuff that has been cooking for a while or what.. heh |
| 20:46:19 | W|GGL|T | hrmmm...good idea, pizza |
| 20:46:27 | W|GGL|T | doh...i only hava a $100 bill |
| 20:46:34 | W|GGL|T | doubt the driver can break that |
| 20:47:46 | W|GGL|T | :o( |
| 20:48:43 | whardier | just give him half of it |
| 20:49:42 | WonderSlug | tell em when you call they might send him out with enough change |
| 20:51:47 | whardier | haha |
| 20:51:50 | whardier | doubtfull |
| 20:51:58 | whardier | they don't trust their drivers |
| 20:52:15 | W|GGL|T | hehe |
| 20:52:50 | WonderSlug | used to work for dominos in college trust me they want any sale they can get |
| 20:53:02 | WonderSlug | thin margines in the business |
| 20:53:10 | W|GGL|T | hrmmm...most drivers should collect close to $100 on a run anyways... |
| 20:53:11 | WonderSlug | margins even |
| 20:53:39 | whardier | most don't have over 50 bucks |
| 20:53:40 | y0ssarian | maybe not on sunday afternoons tho |
| 20:54:18 | W|GGL|T | true |
| 20:54:34 | WonderSlug | the worst that can happen is they say no when you call |
| 20:54:34 | W|GGL|T | oh well, i'll just make some sammiches :o) |
| 20:54:35 | ljp | friday late nights...we did.. :) |
| 20:55:08 | W|GGL|T | either that, or pick up the pizza myself |
| 20:56:12 | whardier | that would work |
| 20:56:20 | whardier | then you can do the money dance |
| 20:56:34 | y0ssarian | cheaper that way...no need to tip driver... |
| 20:56:42 | whardier | gas |
| 20:56:51 | y0ssarian | true, but how far is it? |
| 20:57:11 | y0ssarian | there are 5 pizza places within 5 minutes drive of my apt... |
| 20:57:16 | whardier | hehe |
| 20:57:33 | y0ssarian | papa johns, in fact, is a 3 minute walk from here ;) |
| 20:58:51 | whardier | heh |
| 20:58:55 | whardier | loves his pizza |
| 21:00:18 | ljp | well then why dont you marry it? |
| 21:00:26 | whardier | heh |
| 21:00:34 | whardier | I wanna make a thumbwars matrix clone |
| 21:00:46 | y0ssarian | heh, that would be cool |
| 21:01:03 | whardier | or a lego one |
| 21:01:10 | whardier | I would get sued twice |
| 21:01:14 | whardier | heh |
| 21:01:50 | ljp | might help the byte tractor if the right tire was pumped up |
| 21:02:02 | whardier | ? |
| 21:02:08 | whardier | mmm |
| 21:02:09 | whardier | ok |
| 21:02:13 | whardier | this is some damn good pizza |
| 21:02:41 | whardier | they changed their garlic sauce |
| 21:02:50 | whardier | its creamier |
| 21:05:17 | ljp | tbdaemon seems to need to be reloaded after a long period of no activity |
| 21:05:54 | W|GGL|T | hrmmm....best buy is selling 128mb CF for $70, after $30 rebate |
| 21:06:02 | bill2or3 | ponders |
| 21:06:07 | whardier | 's food daemon was starving system resources earlier. |
| 21:06:08 | W|GGL|T | with a free CD/SM reader |
| 21:06:14 | bill2or3 | cd? |
| 21:06:18 | bill2or3 | ym cf? |
| 21:06:26 | W|GGL|T | ooops |
| 21:06:27 | W|GGL|T | yeah |
| 21:06:31 | y0ssarian | okay, i was about to say, that's a bit high |
| 21:06:32 | W|GGL|T | cf |
| 21:07:08 | W|GGL|T | flyer hasn't shown a Zaurus in a few weeks |
| 21:07:10 | y0ssarian | http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=68&manufactory=1404&DEPA=1 |
| 21:07:15 | y0ssarian | $56.00 from newegg |
| 21:07:31 | W|GGL|T | i dont particularly like ordering online |
| 21:07:34 | y0ssarian | but, if you don't have a reader, the b.b. is a better deal |
| 21:07:39 | W|GGL|T | i only do that when i positively have to |
| 21:07:43 | y0ssarian | i see... |
| 21:08:03 | W|GGL|T | that's a good price tho |
| 21:11:21 | whardier | anybodies jaw pop here? |
| 21:11:28 | whardier | this is annoying the hell out of me |
| 21:12:03 | ljp | ya me too all this station is playing today is phish |
| 21:12:08 | bill2or3 | when you open your mouth wide? |
| 21:12:34 | W|GGL|T | a little WD40 will fix that |
| 21:12:38 | W|GGL|T | :o) |
| 21:12:57 | bill2or3 | sounds like TMJ |
| 21:13:10 | W|GGL|T | TMJ? |
| 21:13:11 | bill2or3 | a friend was just diagnosed |
| 21:13:47 | bill2or3 | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&q=tmj+jaw+ |
| 21:13:51 | whardier | Teanage Mutant Juggernauts |
| 21:14:30 | whardier | well it pops when I chew |
| 21:15:46 | rikkus | whardier: that's obviously the Black Death. You've got about 2 weeks. |
| 21:15:58 | rikkus | whardier: but week 2 doesn't bear thinking about |
| 21:18:00 | whardier | :) |
| 21:18:12 | whardier | has been riding the black death for a few months now |
| 21:24:19 | whardier | damn |
| 21:24:35 | whardier | at the beginning of one of the chapters on my Tron DVD |
| 21:24:40 | whardier | it totally fucks over my DVD player |
| 21:24:50 | whardier | I can seek past it.. |
| 21:24:53 | whardier | and its fine |
| 21:24:54 | whardier | that blows |
| 21:27:50 | fortyhex | hi |
| 21:28:02 | BINARY | hi |
| 22:05:59 | BigBoss | l |
| 22:06:32 | Twiun[updtCV] | y |
| 22:10:20 | W|GGL|T | is away: I'm busy smoking a blunt or sleeping or something |
| 22:51:49 | whardier | <fortyhex> hi |
| 22:51:50 | whardier | <BINARY> hi |
| 22:51:54 | whardier | that was poetic |
| 23:09:33 | whardier | WTF! |
| 23:12:57 | codemnky | hey |
| 23:13:27 | codemnky | is there a linux QPE desktop |
| 23:13:34 | codemnky | sync thingy |
| 23:14:30 | whardier | qpe-desktop |
| 23:14:31 | whardier | :P |
| 23:15:13 | codemnky | meaning will it sync with the Z apps? |
| 23:15:21 | whardier | I suppose |
| 23:15:28 | codemnky | or do you have to use the windows one |
| 23:15:43 | whardier | doesn't know |
| 23:15:48 | codemnky | god damnit! |
| 23:15:51 | codemnky | :) |
| 23:15:54 | whardier | is so anti qpe! |
| 23:15:57 | whardier | sorry! |
| 23:16:00 | codemnky | me to |
| 23:33:31 | Hellaenergy | codemnky yes there is a linux Qtopia Desktop |
| 23:36:53 | whardier | heh |
| 23:36:55 | whardier | he logged off |
| 23:45:23 | ljp | qtopia whats that? |
| 23:47:57 | ljp | fluxbox 1.9 seems faster than 1.7 |
| 23:48:16 | whardier | loves fluxbox |
| 23:48:26 | whardier | uses ion instead in most cases :P |
| 23:49:05 | ljp | ion? |
| 23:49:32 | ljp | zion? |
| 23:49:36 | whardier | whenever I need a simple window manager I usually use ion |
| 23:49:36 | ljp | lion? |
| 23:49:43 | ljp | ahh |
| 23:50:00 | whardier | like for xterms where all I do is chat and run terms on them |
| 23:50:34 | ljp | whenever I want an overbloated window manager to record music, I use win2k |
| 23:51:24 | whardier | hehe |
| 23:51:28 | whardier | Futerama is SOOOON |
| 23:51:30 | whardier | I can FEEL it! |
