| 00:05:05 | bill2or3 | take thier money, firewall thier hosts |
| 00:05:41 | occ | they're sending me a "brochure", supposedly |
| 00:05:58 | occ | and they told me i needed to get permission from my workplace, since its a study of computer use in the workplace |
| 00:06:11 | occ | i can't see any IT managers allowing you to install what probably amounts to spyware |
| 00:06:12 | occ | heh |
| 00:25:40 | ljp | wooohoo party like its 1999! |
| 00:26:34 | codemnky | where's the party? |
| 00:29:01 | ljp | heh |
| 00:29:23 | ljp | whardier's place |
| 00:35:08 | codemnky | he's always patying |
| 00:39:49 | BZFlag | ljp: yo. |
| 00:41:38 | codemnky | i see how it is, you only say 'yo' to a select group |
| 00:42:26 | bill2or3 | hey bzflag, are you 'the' bzflag? |
| 00:42:47 | bill2or3 | like, the guy with all the tuxscreens |
| 01:04:26 | N0Remorse | ljp |
| 01:04:49 | N0Remorse | any wprd on opieplayer %20 fix? |
| 01:05:26 | ljp | do me a favor? submit it to bugzilla? |
| 01:06:14 | N0Remorse | err... |
| 01:06:25 | N0Remorse | tell me how! |
| 01:07:45 | ljp | http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi |
| 01:07:53 | ljp | choose opie |
| 01:10:25 | N0Remorse | wants a login |
| 01:13:14 | ljp | hmm I guess if your'e not willing.. spaces in url's aren't allowed... |
| 01:20:46 | rodzilla | anybody have problems with OZ and generating a ssh key? |
| 01:30:50 | ljp | nope, cause it generates it on the first bootup |
| 01:31:16 | rodzilla | it told me I had to do it before turning on ssh |
| 01:31:46 | rodzilla | think I need to re-flash it... it's stuck |
| 01:31:59 | rodzilla | the server manager screen is frozen |
| 01:40:02 | ljp | hmm |
| 01:40:27 | rodzilla | re-flashing |
| 01:41:34 | rodzilla | also I can store things on my SD but I can't install anything to SD with the opie package installer, comes up with a panik message about not being able to open a list file |
| 01:41:57 | rodzilla | flashing done |
| 01:47:11 | ljp | ya, oipkg is buggy |
| 01:47:38 | rodzilla | what do you use? command line ipkg? |
| 01:48:41 | ljp | ya, either the commandline, or I open the ipk in oipkg from the filemanager |
| 01:48:58 | ljp | but installs to sd and cf are iffy at best |
| 01:49:56 | rodzilla | iffy at best through oipkg or at all? |
| 02:24:33 | CloudChaser | - |
| 02:25:22 | BZFlag | bill2or3: yep. |
| 02:25:27 | | you are TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps or CTO of Embedix |
| 02:25:27 | BZFlag | ibot bzflag? |
| 02:27:14 | Nadav | heh |
| 02:28:50 | W|GGL|T | anyone know where resolv.conf is on the Z? |
| 02:29:31 | W|GGL|T | duh...found it |
| 02:29:39 | W|GGL|T | /etc |
| 02:31:34 | extremis | <ljp> choose opie |
| 02:31:38 | extremis | I like that line |
| 02:37:51 | W|GGL|T | rc1.d is equivalent to rc.inet1? |
| 03:00:19 | ljp | huh choose opie? |
| 03:01:36 | MEGASTeP | is away: I'm away, dammit |
| 03:04:20 | CloudChaser | - |
| 03:04:52 | Wembly | herm. |
| 03:06:10 | ljp | hello |
| 03:14:11 | Wembly | hihi |
| 03:19:03 | CloudChaser | woohoo! forums are back on zaurus zone it looks like |
| 03:20:40 | W|GGL|T | can't find the last few days' posts on ZZ |
| 03:21:06 | CloudChaser | i think they'll put them up too, he said htey would.. maybe juts haven't gotten to that part yet |
| 03:21:25 | W|GGL|T | ahh |
| 03:21:39 | W|GGL|T | i was running around ZZ like a chicken with a missing head |
| 03:23:12 | W|GGL|T | doesn't see CloudChaser on there |
| 03:23:56 | CloudChaser | hmm i am on there |
| 03:24:38 | CloudChaser | i see me in the list at the bottom |
| 03:24:56 | CloudChaser | refresh your page |
| 03:25:09 | CloudChaser | i see you ;) |
| 03:25:12 | W|GGL|T | ahh...i see you now |
| 03:25:13 | W|GGL|T | hehe |
| 03:25:21 | CloudChaser | i just logged in ;) |
| 03:28:43 | W|GGL|T | gonna work on my PDA page...i'm idle |
| 03:29:02 | CloudChaser | what's your pda page? |
| 03:29:32 | W|GGL|T | http://www.wigglit.com/pda.html |
| 03:33:56 | nicodeimous | nic site |
| 03:34:13 | CloudChaser | yes, i'm reading it :) |
| 03:37:13 | CloudChaser | are you still in japan W|GGL|T? |
| 03:39:33 | W|GGL|T | no...we recently moved back to the US |
| 03:39:57 | W|GGL|T | need to update that |
| 03:40:18 | CloudChaser | your pages are pretty neat...i like the backgrounds |
| 03:41:14 | CloudChaser | very nice :) |
| 03:41:55 | CloudChaser | g'night.. falling asleep here |
| 03:43:15 | CloudChaser | only thing wrong with the zz is the type is so tiny |
| 03:45:03 | W|GGL|T | thank you |
| 03:45:13 | asys3 | Hi ! anybody knows how to unpack a sharp rom package ? |
| 03:45:14 | W|GGL|T | yeah, i was squinting when reading ZZ |
| 03:45:47 | Com[Plex] | damnit, I used to know the answer to that |
| 03:46:36 | W|GGL|T | someone just posted a link for that last night |
| 03:46:40 | sig | anyone know where I can get PPPoE software for my z? |
| 03:46:45 | W|GGL|T | thought i'd bookmarked it but i can't find it |
| 03:47:37 | asys3 | sig: the necessary parts is incl. in the ROM - waht do you mean ? |
| 03:47:56 | W|GGL|T | ethernet over usb? |
| 03:48:10 | sig | asys3: I'm looking for somethign that I can enter my hostname and dns #'s so i can connect striaght through my dsl modem |
| 03:50:56 | W|GGL|T | man, this is irritating me...i know i bookmarked that page |
| 03:52:45 | W|GGL|T | hrmmm...maybe on another box |
| 03:58:35 | W|GGL|T | can't find it...i give up |
| 03:58:48 | W|GGL|T | fumes and stomps off |
| 04:01:28 | sig | does anyone have a pppoe script to connect with the z? |
| 04:02:03 | W|GGL|T | can talk to his Z but not go get his Z to access the net |
| 04:03:26 | nicodeimous | what page? |
| 04:06:20 | W|GGL|T | nicodeimous: the page that shows how to unpack a sharp rom package |
| 04:07:07 | nicodeimous | ah. |
| 04:09:13 | Speedy_2 | re |
| 04:10:54 | Wembly | wigglit: where? |
| 04:11:01 | Speedy_2 | Hi wembly |
| 04:11:03 | Wembly | wigglit: unpack the sharp rom package? like the .srom? |
| 04:11:06 | Speedy_2 | Did those movies play OK? |
| 04:11:10 | Wembly | yea |
| 04:11:15 | Speedy_2 | Did you enjoy them? |
| 04:11:34 | Wembly | yea :) |
| 04:11:35 | ][N-Flux | is back (gone 11:09:40) |
| 04:11:40 | Speedy_2 | Good. ;) |
| 04:23:55 | W|GGL|T | can anyone do me a favor and view http://www.wigglit.com/pda.html? see how fast it comes up (graphics at bottom are a bit hefty, maybe) |
| 04:27:20 | Speedy_2 | RC cars eh? I have an RC10 B3 |
| 04:29:20 | nicodeimous | Is their a drive format utility for the Z? Or just stick to the console way. |
| 04:29:39 | nicodeimous | On cable it came up fast :) |
| 04:29:58 | Speedy_2 | W|GGL|T: The images come up pretty quickly, cable here |
| 04:30:34 | W|GGL|T | ok...thanks...i guess i'll leave them alone until someone complains |
| 04:38:52 | W|GGL|T | smokebreak! |
| 05:19:11 | W|GGL|T | http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2870466,00.html |
| 05:22:02 | Speedy_2 | Interesting |
| 05:22:51 | W|GGL|T | yeah |
| 05:27:28 | W|GGL|T | --Don't buy an SD or CF card > 64 Mb. They're not supported by the operating system. |
| 05:27:30 | W|GGL|T | heh |
| 05:27:36 | W|GGL|T | my 32mb SD works fine |
| 05:29:13 | extremis | is anyone having any luck updating package listings from http://www.zauruszone.com/feed/ ? |
| 05:29:30 | extremis | each time I hit upgrade it doesn't result with anything |
| 05:31:30 | extremis | is there a better source? |
| 05:32:16 | extremis | hrmph |
| 05:39:35 | extremis | heh, w|ggl|t: your site was very objective |
| 05:41:44 | W|GGL|T | thank you...that's very nice to hear. tried my best to be fair |
| 05:43:25 | extremis | are you having any prblems with zz's /feed/ ? |
| 05:44:09 | W|GGL|T | i just went there but didn't notice anything abnormal...what are you trying to do? |
| 05:44:19 | Com[Plex] | where can I get the source for keypebble? |
| 05:44:21 | W|GGL|T | see if there are page updates? |
| 05:44:32 | Com[Plex] | I mean the Source. not the app |
| 05:45:11 | extremis | haha you have to highlight it |
| 05:45:14 | extremis | dumb me |
| 05:45:27 | W|GGL|T | that's a good question...when i saw it on the ipkg page, i didn't see any links pointing to a homepage or author |
| 05:45:37 | W|GGL|T | extremis: ahhh |
| 05:45:55 | extremis | once you define a server, you have to select it and hit ok to update |
| 05:46:00 | extremis | clicking upgrade does not update :) |
| 05:54:50 | sig | how do i do a service network status in my z? |
| 05:55:08 | W|GGL|T | i hate living close to an artillery range...hard to figure out if its actually artillery or someone breaking into your house! |
| 05:56:04 | y0ssarian | W|GGL|T: lol |
| 05:56:16 | y0ssarian | it's someone breaking into your house ;) |
| 05:56:33 | y0ssarian | live in a bad neighborhood too? |
| 05:57:46 | W|GGL|T | the whole town is bad |
| 05:57:49 | W|GGL|T | heh |
| 05:58:35 | W|GGL|T | im thinking about getting a firearm license and buying a pistol |
| 05:58:43 | y0ssarian | cool |
| 05:58:53 | W|GGL|T | im just a bit scared since i've children |
| 05:58:59 | y0ssarian | i just got back from seeing the Bourne Identity... |
| 05:59:10 | W|GGL|T | i want to see that |
| 05:59:14 | y0ssarian | ahh, just get a lock for it |
| 05:59:19 | y0ssarian | it was cool |
| 05:59:25 | y0ssarian | better than the sum of all fears |
| 06:00:00 | W|GGL|T | i read "the sum of all fears" book...i just know im going to be disappointed in the movie, as the book was so damn good |
| 06:00:13 | y0ssarian | yeah, i've you read the book, you'll hate the movie... |
| 06:00:17 | W|GGL|T | grrr |
| 06:00:26 | y0ssarian | aside from that, it's a decent action flick... |
| 06:00:30 | y0ssarian | but not if you've read the book |
| 06:00:41 | W|GGL|T | cant see afleck playing a part like that |
| 06:00:45 | W|GGL|T | hehe |
| 06:00:58 | treke|laptop | the casting is enought to know I'd hate it |
| 06:01:05 | treke|laptop | I want james earl jones back dammit |
| 06:01:10 | W|GGL|T | hehehe |
| 06:01:17 | y0ssarian | but he died in the last one ;) |
| 06:01:34 | W|GGL|T | they need to make Rainbow Six |
| 06:01:40 | W|GGL|T | now that'd rock, i think |
| 06:01:41 | treke|laptop | the guy they picked for clark also looks wrong to me |
| 06:01:53 | W|GGL|T | who played clark? |
| 06:01:54 | y0ssarian | yeah, _way_ too young |
| 06:02:02 | W|GGL|T | oh really? |
| 06:02:15 | W|GGL|T | clark is so badass in the book |
| 06:02:19 | y0ssarian | yup |
| 06:02:21 | sig | how do i get this thing on the net? |
| 06:02:34 | y0ssarian | W|GGL|T: r6 would be a great movie |
| 06:02:42 | W|GGL|T | sig: i was working on that today and gave up :-( |
| 06:02:55 | sig | W|GGL|T: yeah I have no fuqin clue |
| 06:03:03 | sig | I have it on a router and everything |
| 06:03:06 | sig | no luck |
| 06:03:17 | W|GGL|T | i havent tried it in XP yet |
| 06:03:19 | W|GGL|T | just linux |
| 06:04:08 | y0ssarian | sig: what have you tried? |
| 06:04:19 | y0ssarian | sig: using linux? |
| 06:04:22 | treke|laptop | Willem Dafoe was clark in Clear nd Present danger. Much better choice :) |
| 06:04:45 | W|GGL|T | thinks he'll break out his "the sum of all fears" book |
| 06:05:00 | W|GGL|T | Dafoe seemed....too little? :o) |
| 06:05:29 | treke|laptop | I never got the impression clark was a big guy in the books myself. Just a mean mofo |
| 06:05:55 | sig | y0ssarian: yeah I use linux |
| 06:06:01 | sig | everything is right too |
| 06:06:36 | W|GGL|T | is chavez in the movie? |
| 06:06:44 | y0ssarian | W|GGL|T: no |
| 06:07:42 | treke|laptop | Without remorse might make a decent movie ;) |
| 06:07:50 | W|GGL|T | oh yeah |
| 06:08:20 | treke|laptop | r6 would translate real well |
| 06:08:21 | sig | ok the zaurus sucks |
| 06:08:36 | sig | why the hell can't i log on the internet with it |
| 06:08:49 | y0ssarian | sig: you can ssh to it? |
| 06:09:01 | Com[Plex] | what are you using to connect with? hardware wise? |
| 06:09:06 | sig | y0ssarian: i can't even ping the host or vica versa |
| 06:09:22 | y0ssarian | using usb cradle? |
| 06:09:52 | sig | no network card |
| 06:09:57 | Com[Plex] | what kind? |
| 06:10:15 | Com[Plex] | do you see the CF icon on the tray? |
| 06:10:27 | sig | pretec |
| 06:10:34 | sig | got it off of zaurus site |
| 06:10:43 | Com[Plex] | did you set up the network settings properly? |
| 06:10:52 | Com[Plex] | www.myzaurus.com |
| 06:11:08 | y0ssarian | sig: does your Z get an ip address for eth0? |
| 06:11:12 | sig | yea |
| 06:11:22 | Com[Plex] | is it specified? |
| 06:11:25 | y0ssarian | set with dhcp? or manually? |
| 06:11:29 | Com[Plex] | or did it get one over dhcp? |
| 06:11:32 | Com[Plex] | heheh |
| 06:11:35 | Com[Plex] | beat me |
| 06:11:39 | y0ssarian | lol |
| 06:11:58 | sig | manually |
| 06:12:00 | sig | through a router |
| 06:12:02 | Com[Plex] | he must be laggy |
| 06:12:20 | Com[Plex] | can you ping the zaurus from the zaurus? |
| 06:12:23 | Com[Plex] | localhost |
| 06:12:24 | sig | yeah |
| 06:13:05 | y0ssarian | can you ping another machine on your netwrok from the Z? |
| 06:13:43 | sig | mp |
| 06:13:53 | sig | no |
| 06:14:15 | y0ssarian | are you sure your network settings are correct? |
| 06:14:19 | Com[Plex] | hehe |
| 06:14:19 | sig | yes |
| 06:14:27 | y0ssarian | what does ifconfig say? |
| 06:14:29 | Com[Plex] | no commas where you need a period.. |
| 06:14:33 | sig | the normal |
| 06:14:35 | y0ssarian | lol |
| 06:14:42 | Com[Plex] | too bad its a network issue. lol |
| 06:14:45 | sig | It is fine |
| 06:14:51 | Com[Plex] | or I would say "start up vnc Ill come fix it for you |
| 06:14:59 | sig | I wish |
| 06:15:00 | y0ssarian | lol |
| 06:15:01 | Com[Plex] | k, I sleep now. good luck |
| 06:15:04 | y0ssarian | what about route? |
| 06:15:04 | sig | thanks |
| 06:15:15 | sig | gateway? |
| 06:15:19 | y0ssarian | what's the output of route typed at the terminal/ |
| 06:15:20 | y0ssarian | ? |
| 06:15:30 | Com[Plex] | gnite |
| 06:15:47 | sig | doesn't say |
| 06:15:51 | y0ssarian | should have your router listed as the default destination |
| 06:16:03 | y0ssarian | then that may be your problem... |
| 06:16:24 | sig | how do i add it |
| 06:16:28 | sig | i did put it in gateway |
| 06:16:38 | y0ssarian | route add -net default gw 192.168.0.1 |
| 06:16:47 | y0ssarian | where the ip address is the ip of your router |
| 06:16:50 | sig | or the gateway i chose |
| 06:17:22 | Com[Plex] | wh would he do that? why doesnt hejustm open the damned wizard? |
| 06:17:34 | Com[Plex] | see thats the thing that pissess me off about linux. |
| 06:19:08 | Com[Plex] | you got an app that does all this stuf, and you still gotta open a fucking terminal session to type more shit on the command line |
| 06:19:08 | Com[Plex] | well fuck. screw linux. |
| 06:19:08 | Com[Plex] | too bad they dont make wince for the z. lol |
| 06:19:08 | Com[Plex] | who am I kidding. having a terminal does own :>' |
| 06:19:08 | y0ssarian | throws a bucket of water on Com[Plex] |
| 06:19:08 | sig | y0ssarian: ok i typed that now what? |
| 06:19:08 | y0ssarian | try it |
| 06:19:09 | y0ssarian | ping the router |
| 06:19:09 | Com[Plex] | I just wish these lazy fuckers would make apps that were ready to eat out of the box, oph and yeah, ones that INSTALLED right. |
| 06:19:09 | Com[Plex] | okay im done ranting |
| 06:19:09 | y0ssarian | lol |
| 06:19:38 | Com[Plex] | uh, sig, whats your gateways IP? |
| 06:19:48 | Com[Plex] | is it 192.168.0.1? |
| 06:20:13 | Com[Plex] | did yuo just type 192.168.0.1? or did you replace it with your actual gateways ip? |
| 06:20:26 | Com[Plex] | gnite. |
| 06:20:30 | y0ssarian | night |
| 06:20:53 | sig | Com[Plex]: 192.168.0.2 |
| 06:21:44 | y0ssarian | does it work? |
| 06:22:04 | y0ssarian | sig: what kind of router is it? it might be easier to just set up dhcp |
| 06:22:20 | sig | y0ssarian: i can't i have dsl=PPPoE |
| 06:22:24 | sig | and it is my linux router |
| 06:22:47 | y0ssarian | your router is running linux? |
| 06:22:58 | y0ssarian | that's great, no problem setting up dhcp |
| 06:24:12 | y0ssarian | i have pppoe w/ a linux router too, dhcp was a piece of cake to setup |
| 06:25:20 | sig | y0ssarian: ipmasq |
| 06:25:21 | sig | for me |
| 06:25:28 | sig | z is just a piece of shit |
| 06:25:33 | W|GGL|T | doh |
| 06:25:36 | sig | shouldn't hae been released commercially |
| 06:25:39 | sig | I'm pissed |
| 06:25:51 | sig | the damn gui won't even take care of shit |
| 06:26:08 | W|GGL|T | as a PIM for everyday use, its fine |
| 06:26:23 | sig | so is a 60 dollar palm |
| 06:26:31 | y0ssarian | sig: what rom are you using? |
| 06:26:35 | sig | 2.2 |
| 06:26:36 | W|GGL|T | most people wont be attempting what you are doing...not the typical user |
| 06:26:55 | y0ssarian | most people would have dhcp... |
| 06:27:13 | sig | y0ssarian: so what your saying is the people that have pppoe are fucked?? |
| 06:27:17 | y0ssarian | no |
| 06:27:18 | sig | or any other person in that matter |
| 06:27:22 | W|GGL|T | has dhcp...still won't work, but he'll not call the Z a POS either |
| 06:27:49 | y0ssarian | you have your Z plugged directly into a switch which also has your router on it? |
| 06:27:56 | y0ssarian | switch/hub ? |
| 06:28:13 | sig | yes |
| 06:28:20 | sig | all other comps on it work |
| 06:28:29 | sig | all linux boxens |
| 06:32:53 | y0ssarian | hrmmm |
| 06:33:55 | W|GGL|T | is html'd out |
| 06:36:14 | y0ssarian | sig: maybe your network card is bad |
| 06:36:48 | sig | y0ssarian: brand new, got it today |
| 06:37:26 | y0ssarian | anyway, if i were you, i'd install dhcp...lemme msg you my config, should work for you |
| 06:40:55 | W|GGL|T | needs a good tux image so he can make a background for OZ |
| 06:41:47 | W|GGL|T | good...the Z didn't lock up my box this time when it lost the usb connect |
| 06:41:58 | W|GGL|T | hi CC |
| 06:43:57 | y0ssarian | is away: sleep |
| 06:44:23 | W|GGL|T | later y0ssarian |
| 06:59:19 | Speedy_2 | wiggit: You still here? |
| 07:00:42 | W|GGL|T | yeah |
| 07:01:15 | W|GGL|T | wassup? |
| 07:01:16 | Speedy_2 | So do you mess around with RC cars? |
| 07:01:37 | Speedy_2 | heh |
| 07:01:42 | W|GGL|T | i never did, no...it was one of my wishes while i was in japan, but two babies came along |
| 07:01:58 | W|GGL|T | monetary funds got realloted :o) |
| 07:03:16 | W|GGL|T | there was this huge field next to our home where people would fly RC planes and drive RC cars |
| 07:03:41 | Speedy_2 | Ok |
| 07:03:43 | Speedy_2 | Word of advice |
| 07:03:48 | Speedy_2 | DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY |
| 07:03:53 | Speedy_2 | Get like a shitty ready to run car |
| 07:03:58 | Speedy_2 | Or be prepared to waste shitloads... |
| 07:04:03 | W|GGL|T | ahhh |
| 07:04:15 | W|GGL|T | almost did that before i left |
| 07:06:29 | Speedy_2 | Yeah |
| 07:06:36 | Speedy_2 | My brother and I both decided to go for it about a year ago |
| 07:06:41 | Speedy_2 | It was almost a year before we could play |
| 07:06:47 | Speedy_2 | Time to assemble, paint, etc. |
| 07:06:54 | Speedy_2 | Plus they rip you off like a motherfucker. |
| 07:09:07 | trilluser | I need Help! |
| 07:09:09 | trilluser | heh |
| 07:09:58 | trilluser | anyone here have their zaurus syncing correctly with either intellisync or qtopia on windows 2k? |
| 07:13:57 | trilluser | anyone here? |
| 07:15:26 | W|GGL|T | doesnt use W2k |
| 07:15:28 | W|GGL|T | XP |
| 07:20:08 | W|GGL|T | is now reading Forgotten Realms' Elminster in Hell |
| 07:23:29 | trilluser | tr W|GGL|T do you think you could send me the drivers you are using? |
| 07:26:15 | newzuser | greetings. I was wondering if anyone has experienced corruption of CF data? |
| 07:28:15 | newzuser | Hmmm. ok. No one around... |
| 07:29:08 | Speedy_2 | Sorry |
| 07:29:09 | Speedy_2 | No Z here |
| 07:30:11 | W|GGL|T | is away: I'm busy smoking a blunt or sleeping or something |
| 11:12:21 | mark | is away: England v Denmark |
| 11:31:10 | Harlekin | bigproll arround? |
| 11:34:56 | Dilbert- | hi |
| 11:35:12 | Nadav | hello |
| 12:09:56 | N0Remorse | hi |
| 12:11:16 | N0Remorse | what sort of time should i get from 5500 batt with a CF wlan card and backlight full? |
| 12:12:59 | N0Remorse | do the batteries come in any other sharp products? they look familiar |
| 12:13:08 | Speedy_2 | Battery life is not good with WiFI |
| 12:13:38 | N0Remorse | yeah guessed that |
| 12:13:54 | XavierXeon | 1h maximum |
| 12:14:04 | N0Remorse | well whats the longest? ie no CF or backlight |
| 12:15:26 | XavierXeon | Don't know ! I always have wifi and 25% light. Lasts nearly 2h |
| 12:25:04 | N0Remorse | hmm same here |
| 12:26:17 | N0Remorse | xav are there aftermarket batts? |
| 13:13:15 | trilluser | anyone alive in here? |
| 13:14:48 | newzuser | yes |
| 13:15:25 | trilluser | what os are you using? |
| 13:15:56 | newzuser | Why? |
| 13:17:16 | trilluser | I am having problems with intellisync |
| 13:17:23 | trilluser | hoping someone could help me |
| 13:17:31 | trilluser | not sure if it is os releated... |
| 13:17:39 | newzuser | Sorry. Using Qtopia desktop on Linux. |
| 13:18:26 | trilluser | nice |
| 13:18:44 | trilluser | know much about mounting/unmounting sd cardS? |
| 13:19:11 | newzuser | Nothing. Just got the Zaurus last week. Unfortunately I think it is a tad broken. |
| 13:19:29 | newzuser | Havn't got any SD cards. |
| 13:19:38 | trilluser | heh I just got mine yesterday |
| 13:19:47 | trilluser | you think it is lil broken eh? |
| 13:20:24 | newzuser | Yes. Files get corrupted when getting copied to CF. |
| 13:20:32 | trilluser | agh |
| 13:20:46 | trilluser | must be nice having linux os and a linux pda |
| 13:20:59 | newzuser | It is just mine I think, as we got two of them and the other does not display the problem. |
| 13:21:03 | trilluser | easier to work around the kernel with past experience |
| 13:21:58 | Speedy2 | Nice w/Linux? hah |
| 13:23:03 | newzuser | Sharp have no Linux desktop support. Found info how to get things working. Required a kernel patch, downloading qtopia and other fun things. |
| 13:28:34 | XavierXeon | you don't need a linux desktop |
| 13:34:19 | trilluser | xavier you know much about creating swap files on an sd card? |
| 13:35:00 | XavierXeon | try the google : "unofficial zaurus FAQ" |
| 13:35:15 | trilluser | yeah I am reading it... |
| 13:35:24 | trilluser | do you have any experience though? |
| 13:35:42 | XavierXeon | yes ! it is very very slow |
| 13:35:46 | trilluser | heh |
| 13:36:03 | trilluser | I just bought my Z yesterday used... |
| 13:36:21 | XavierXeon | try to install as many things as possible onto SD and make a swap in RAM |
| 13:36:52 | trilluser | I believe the person I bought the Z from made the SD a swapfile but I cannot tell.. |
| 13:36:58 | trilluser | he said he mounted /home to it? |
| 13:37:09 | newzuser | cat /proc/swaps |
| 13:37:10 | trilluser | I'm new both to linux and my pda... |
| 13:37:14 | trilluser | k |
| 13:38:41 | trilluser | is there any command-line search util for linux console? |
| 13:38:53 | XavierXeon | that is interesting. i tried mounting /home to SD, but it did not work |
| 13:39:02 | trilluser | BTW cat /proc/swap returns "no such file or directory" |
| 13:39:15 | trilluser | yeah I didn't really talk to the seller too much about it |
| 13:39:25 | newzuser | swaps plural |
| 13:39:36 | trilluser | all I know is that I can't run my Z if my sd card is not there |
| 13:40:28 | trilluser | thanks new... apparently I don't have anything in there... |
| 13:40:32 | newzuser | What is the output of mount |
| 13:41:07 | trilluser | just mount? |
| 13:41:17 | newzuser | yes |
| 13:42:31 | trilluser | heh |
| 13:42:45 | trilluser | been typing it in without looking and irc is trying to pick up on my / |
| 13:42:48 | trilluser | slashes |
| 13:43:29 | trilluser | newzuser: /dev/mtdblock0 on / type cramfs (ro) |
| 13:43:53 | trilluser | newzuser: /proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 13:44:13 | trilluser | newzuser: /dev/ram1 on /dev type minix (rw) |
| 13:45:02 | trilluser | newzuser: /dev/mtdblock1 on /home type ext2 (rw,sync,noatime) |
| 13:45:29 | trilluser | newzuser: none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) |
| 13:45:43 | trilluser | sorry for the slow typing.... didn't sleeep much |
| 13:45:54 | trilluser | XavierXeon you still here? |
| 13:46:36 | newzuser | If that is it you should be able to work fine without the SD card.. |
| 13:46:58 | trilluser | I can't put anything on my sd card... |
| 13:47:08 | trilluser | how do I unmount it and remount it |
| 13:47:20 | trilluser | I think I may have messed it up taking it out without unmounting it first |
| 13:53:25 | trilluser | newzuser you srill there? |
| 13:53:44 | newzuser | yes |
| 13:56:55 | trilluser | when I start my Z without the SD card in it it boots to a REAL console and says |
| 13:57:09 | trilluser | error occurred while checking for the filesystem |
| 13:57:37 | trilluser | filesystem type on the sd card dropping you to a shell the system will reboot when you leave the shell |
| 13:58:04 | trilluser | give root password for maintenance or type ctrl-d for normal startup |
| 13:58:16 | trilluser | ctrl-d doesn't quite work |
| 13:58:37 | newzuser | hmmm |
| 13:59:11 | trilluser | ahhh forgot to tell you this part |
| 13:59:16 | trilluser | at top of screen it says: |
| 13:59:50 | trilluser | init version 2.78 booting mount: Mounting /dev/mtdblock1 on /home failed: invalid arg |
| 14:00:23 | newzuser | interesting.... |
| 14:00:37 | newzuser | please boot with card in. Go to shell and run ls -l /dev/mtdblock1 |
| 14:00:48 | trilluser | how do I get to shell? |
| 14:00:54 | trilluser | =) |
| 14:01:14 | trilluser | want me to just use kernel? |
| 14:01:38 | newzuser | Install the terminal program. |
| 14:01:43 | newzuser | On the CD |
| 14:02:11 | trilluser | k |
| 14:02:33 | trilluser | thought you meant the real console without gui |
| 14:02:36 | trilluser | heh |
| 14:03:15 | trilluser | ls - ell or aye? |
| 14:03:55 | newzuser | l |
| 14:05:29 | trilluser | brw-r--rr 2 root root 60, 1 feb 4 05:22 /dev/mtdblock` |
| 14:07:27 | mark | is away: dog walking |
| 14:08:16 | newzuser | Ok. Your friend played around with the devices. |
| 14:08:34 | newzuser | The major number is incorrect. |
| 14:08:44 | trilluser | ?? |
| 14:09:48 | newzuser | Just saw how your friend made the SD card your root dir.. |
| 14:09:55 | trilluser | nice |
| 14:10:04 | newzuser | I take it that this leaves you a lot of ram for progs? |
| 14:10:56 | trilluser | under memory I only have 3723 kb free but under storage I have 54 megs |
| 14:11:27 | trilluser | I think there is a bug with the syncing process and having an SD card in the slot |
| 14:11:30 | newzuser | How much totoal? |
| 14:11:39 | newzuser | total |
| 14:11:53 | trilluser | internal storage = 60089kb |
| 14:12:28 | newzuser | ok. So I take it you run into memory problems? |
| 14:12:57 | trilluser | just got the device yesterday I can't even sync it to get programs on it |
| 14:13:00 | trilluser | no memory probs |
| 14:13:15 | newzuser | what is memory total under system info? |
| 14:13:24 | trilluser | I need to sync it so I can get ethernet over usb and python etc.. |
| 14:13:39 | newzuser | try qtopia desktop |
| 14:14:01 | trilluser | I have the 5000d so under memory in system info I have 30875 kb |
| 14:14:05 | trilluser | I have tried it |
| 14:14:13 | trilluser | can't get anything to sync |
| 14:14:25 | trilluser | dunno why |
| 14:14:59 | trilluser | did the previous owner make a smart decesion loading /home on his sd card? |
| 14:15:12 | XavierXeon | trilluser : did you try a hard reset and install from scratch ? |
| 14:15:27 | trilluser | was hoping not to |
| 14:15:29 | trilluser | heh |
| 14:15:36 | trilluser | guess I should eh? |
| 14:15:46 | trilluser | what would it delete? |
| 14:15:53 | newzuser | Everything. |
| 14:15:56 | newzuser | don't do that. |
| 14:15:58 | trilluser | heh |
| 14:16:21 | newzuser | The previous owner made a good decision given you have the developer model with only 32MB ram. |
| 14:16:28 | trilluser | yes |
| 14:16:55 | Speedy2 | You bought it used? |
| 14:17:01 | trilluser | yes. |
| 14:17:17 | Speedy2 | How much? |
| 14:17:33 | trilluser | 400 came with 64meg sd and wireless network card |
| 14:17:49 | Speedy2 | A 5000D for $400 w/SD & WiFI? hrm |
| 14:18:34 | trilluser | newzuser: any idea how I can get the Z to boot without the SD card inside the unit? |
| 14:19:09 | newzuser | Well you could comment out the line in /etc/fstab ... but that is all your apps and data. |
| 14:19:21 | W|GGL|T | is back (gone 06:49:09) |
| 14:19:25 | newzuser | Don't know how qtopia would react to that |
| 14:19:35 | XavierXeon | you can't boot without the sd unless you do hard reset (i think) |
| 14:19:40 | trilluser | there has to be a way to reverse it to normal |
| 14:19:49 | newzuser | vi /etc/fstab |
| 14:20:02 | newzuser | comment entry for /home |
| 14:20:10 | XavierXeon | z needs /home to boot and /home is on sd |
| 14:20:20 | newzuser | ofcourse I havn't tested that.. |
| 14:20:21 | trilluser | I can't even get it to sync though so how would I get my apps back? |
| 14:20:42 | XavierXeon | did you try ftp ? |
| 14:21:37 | trilluser | actually I haven't |
| 14:22:03 | trilluser | #=comment? |
| 14:22:11 | newzuser | don't do what I suggested. |
| 14:22:19 | newzuser | It will break it horribly |
| 14:22:28 | trilluser | heh |
| 14:22:30 | newzuser | I just had a look at what is stored in /home |
| 14:22:36 | trilluser | haha |
| 14:22:50 | newzuser | very evil |
| 14:22:57 | Speedy2 | trill: Was that 5000D or a 5500 you bought? |
| 14:23:20 | trilluser | D |
| 14:23:30 | trilluser | XavierXeon: going to send me the ftp info |
| 14:24:11 | XavierXeon | just connect z to pc (cradle or wireless) |
| 14:24:37 | trilluser | uh huh |
| 14:24:47 | XavierXeon | then use any ftp client (port 4242) |
| 14:25:37 | trilluser | yeah.. |
| 14:25:38 | XavierXeon | ftp port is alwyays open on sharp rom :( |
| 14:25:45 | trilluser | heh |
| 14:26:12 | trilluser | what about ip? |
| 14:26:27 | trilluser | use the usbd0?? |
| 14:26:33 | XavierXeon | well that's about it. with the ftp client you can transfer files to the z, to any location you choose |
| 14:27:18 | XavierXeon | if you connect via wifi the ip is the une of eth0 , via cradle its the ip of usb0 |
| 14:27:20 | trilluser | just connect to port 4242? |
| 14:27:28 | XavierXeon | yes |
| 14:27:32 | trilluser | thanks |
| 14:27:48 | trilluser | if I do a full reset I will have to reinstall a kernel? |
| 14:27:52 | trilluser | roms? |
| 14:27:57 | XavierXeon | no |
| 14:28:12 | trilluser | what will be left on the system? |
| 14:28:21 | XavierXeon | try the ftp connection before the reset |
| 14:28:27 | newzuser | nothing. |
| 14:28:33 | trilluser | I will.... |
| 14:28:41 | XavierXeon | it should be the pim stuff and the settings |
| 14:28:48 | newzuser | Memory will be reinitialised from flash. |
| 14:28:49 | trilluser | I don't have a cd so I wouldn't be able to reinstall opera |
| 14:29:16 | trilluser | would those stock apps stay? |
| 14:29:32 | XavierXeon | what stock apps? |
| 14:29:56 | trilluser | adress book email opera |
| 14:30:09 | trilluser | calc.. system info |
| 14:30:11 | Dilbert- | re |
| 14:30:15 | trilluser | qtopia... |
| 14:30:27 | trilluser | I dunno all the apps you see when the Z is at the store |
| 14:30:48 | XavierXeon | don't know if opera is included in 5000 rom, but the rest should be there |
| 14:30:52 | Dilbert- | do someone buy tkcplayer ? |
| 14:30:57 | Dilbert- | +es |
| 14:31:03 | newzuser | Look at settings->add remove/software->uninstall |
| 14:31:14 | trilluser | Thanks XavierXeon and newzuser I've gotta go... |
| 14:31:15 | newzuser | anything there will not be there after reset. |
| 14:31:29 | trilluser | newzuser can I get your email? |
| 14:31:33 | mark | is back (gone 00:24:06) |
| 14:32:18 | Dilbert- | s/does/did/ |
| 14:32:30 | newzuser | just come back to this channel.. |
| 14:32:34 | trilluser | thanks |
| 14:37:47 | W|GGL|T | XavierXeon: HAPPY BIRTHDAY |
| 14:39:02 | XavierXeon | cheers |
| 14:39:22 | W|GGL|T | saw that on ZZ :o) |
| 15:08:12 | CloudChaser | - |
| 15:12:02 | trilluser | XavierXeon you sure it |
| 15:12:11 | trilluser | it's port 4242 |
| 15:13:38 | XavierXeon | ye |
| 15:14:44 | trilluser | and for hostname I write usb0 right? |
| 15:15:26 | | killefiz: huh? |
| 15:15:26 | killefiz | ibot: openzaurus feed |
| 15:15:32 | XavierXeon | no you write the IP of usb0 |
| 15:15:52 | killefiz | Can someone tell me where i can find the OZ feed? |
| 15:16:09 | trilluser | where do I find that ip? |
| 15:16:30 | XavierXeon | settings- |
| 15:16:36 | XavierXeon | network |
| 15:16:39 | XavierXeon | sync |
| 15:17:12 | XavierXeon | should be 192.168.129.201 if you use the cradle |
| 15:17:12 | | feed is a package repository or http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds or http://www.zauruszone.com/feed/ or http://openzaurus.sf.net/feeds/3.0/ for OpenZaurus |
| 15:17:12 | ljp | ibot: feed |
| 15:17:47 | killefiz | thanks - I failed with openzaurus.sf.net/feed ;) |
| 15:18:11 | trilluser | didn't work |
| 15:18:38 | XavierXeon | can you ping your z ? |
| 15:18:54 | killefiz | :-( latest package that feed is dated 20-may |
| 15:19:40 | trilluser | type ping in dos commandline then? |
| 15:19:51 | XavierXeon | ping 192.168.129.201 |
| 15:20:36 | trilluser | request timed out |
| 15:21:08 | XavierXeon | is the z in the cradle ? are the drivers installed ? |
| 15:21:28 | trilluser | got it.... |
| 15:21:36 | trilluser | need to reconfig ip on Z |
| 15:23:33 | trilluser | thanks |
| 15:23:41 | trilluser | well got to ping it at least |
| 15:23:41 | trilluser | heh |
| 15:35:35 | dc_ | ahha |
| 15:47:46 | surge | has anyone made anything to sync the calender yet? |
| 15:51:59 | surge | ah geez im an idiot - its right there in front of me :) |
| 16:21:53 | warmi | hi |
| 16:21:55 | CloudChaser | hiya |
| 16:35:28 | Speedy2 | Hey warmi |
| 17:18:25 | tux_mike | http://www.haremail.com/images/StopPETA.jpg |
| 17:18:40 | tux_mike | wrong chan.. but still funny :) |
| 17:40:30 | Nasa | kergoth: you around? |
| 17:48:27 | Nasa | Does anyone know what zImage is best to use with OZ? I don't really understand what the memory splits actually mean.... |
| 17:49:55 | ljp | are you using a 5500? or 5000d |
| 17:50:03 | Nasa | 5000D |
| 17:50:25 | surge | ok, has anyone come up with a converter between gnome-pim or something like that, and whatever qtopia desktop uses? (or better yet, the ability for one of these gnome-pim like things to sync directly) |
| 17:51:06 | ljp | Nasa: http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/openzaurus/README |
| 17:52:30 | ljp | Nasa: I use 26-6 |
| 17:54:03 | Nasa | ok, that's the one I have been using.. The readme says that X = Amount of Actual RAM available |
| 17:54:03 | Nasa | Y = Amount of RAM used for your ramdisk. What I understood that as was the 26 meg was ram availabe to me "the user" while the other 6 was memory for the system |
| 17:56:03 | Nasa | but when I do a 'df -h" it shows /mnt/ram as about 6 megs while /dev/mtdblock4 is about 14. That equals 20 megs. I am having trouble adding this up.... |
| 19:09:33 | Nadav | wow, lots of activity today :P |
| 19:32:31 | darienm | Its beautiful outside... hopefully people are out enjoying it. |
| 19:32:46 | Nadav | haha |
| 19:33:00 | darienm | er, why am I inside then? |
| 19:33:16 | Nadav | because you're a geek? |
| 19:33:28 | treke|laptop | sunlight is overrated |
| 20:13:13 | whardier | werd! |
| 20:13:20 | mark | hi whardier |
| 20:13:28 | whardier | sup biznatch |
| 20:13:37 | mark | lol |
| 20:14:40 | mark | i keep finding bugs :( |
| 20:14:51 | whardier | kill em |
| 20:14:58 | whardier | get some raid |
| 20:15:04 | whardier | has a lot of moths |
| 20:15:18 | mark | lol |
| 20:15:35 | mark | not _those_ kinda bugs :P |
| 20:21:23 | whardier | I do have lots of moths tho |
| 20:23:09 | Nasa | howdy -- does anyone have java working on OZ? |
| 20:23:23 | whardier | spilt coffee on his once |
| 20:34:55 | mark | whardier: it survive? |
| 20:38:37 | whardier | http://www.designtechnica.com/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=29 |
| 20:38:41 | whardier | yeah |
| 20:45:03 | tux_mike | I FOUND STYLUSES!! :) |
| 20:45:21 | whardier | heh |
| 20:45:29 | tux_mike | at office depot |
| 20:45:34 | whardier | neat |
| 20:45:48 | Nasa | office depot? |
| 20:45:54 | whardier | its a store |
| 20:46:07 | mark | tux_mike: w00t |
| 20:46:08 | NetAmp | sweet |
| 20:46:10 | mark | send me some :P |
| 20:46:12 | Nasa | I know, it's just around the corner from my house |
| 20:46:13 | mark | you can start a business |
| 20:46:29 | NetAmp | were they so hard to find? To find the fitting ones probably? |
| 20:48:09 | tux_mike | they are the ones for the 5500, but work fine in the 5000. ten bucks for a two pack... little pricey, but as long as i have some styluses that fit :) |
| 20:48:24 | NetAmp | ;) |
| 21:00:30 | whardier | damn Cloud! |
| 21:00:34 | whardier | quit making thunder! |
| 21:14:40 | d4n | can someone send me the tkcadressbook per dcc ??? |
| 21:15:08 | ljp | whats dcc? |
| 21:15:38 | Nasa | does anyone have java working on OZ? |
| 21:16:00 | ljp | I hear jeode can work on it |
| 21:16:26 | catalin | d4n: what do I get in exchange ? |
| 21:16:35 | Nasa | I am trying right now, but haven't had any luck... |
| 21:16:40 | NetAmp | dcc is IRC file transfer :) |
| 21:17:24 | kergoth` | re ppl |
| 21:17:35 | catalin | re kergoth |
| 21:17:36 | kergoth` | stupid fucking cable company. net was down for 3 days at my house |
| 21:17:39 | kergoth` | hey catalin |
| 21:17:41 | kergoth` | hows it going? |
| 21:17:52 | NetAmp | kergoth: that sucks :) |
| 21:17:56 | NetAmp | erm :( |
| 21:17:56 | kergoth` | indeed |
| 21:18:05 | kergoth` | ah well, its fixed, so its all good now |
| 21:18:10 | NetAmp | :D |
| 21:18:22 | kergoth` | and my 60gb ibm drive that was a paperweight, it turns out just had a connection problem on the power connector.. it works again |
| 21:18:23 | Nasa | which cable company you have? |
| 21:18:27 | kergoth` | at&t |
| 21:18:44 | Nasa | oh, that explains it. |
| 21:18:46 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 21:18:48 | kergoth` | no shit |
| 21:18:54 | kergoth` | k i got shit to do. bbl |
| 21:19:26 | whardier | kergoth kergoth.. the musical fruit!!.. the more you eat him.. the more you toot!! |
| 21:19:34 | NetAmp | ??? |
| 21:19:39 | NetAmp | is puzzled |
| 21:19:49 | whardier | NetAmp NetAmp.. the musical fruit!!.. the more you eat him.. the more you toot!! |
| 21:20:03 | NetAmp | whardier, what's gotten in to you? ;) |
| 21:20:15 | NetAmp | hah |
| 21:20:21 | whardier | balogne |
| 21:20:23 | whardier | and salami |
| 21:20:26 | NetAmp | lol |
| 21:20:28 | whardier | and pepperoni |
| 21:20:48 | ljp | make that alot of balogne |
| 21:20:57 | NetAmp | ghehe |
| 21:20:58 | whardier | just one slice! |
| 21:21:07 | whardier | and some baked doritos! |
| 21:21:12 | whardier | they suck! |
| 21:21:34 | whardier | I need some mtn dew now |
| 21:21:43 | whardier | it should be safe to walk outside now! |
| 21:22:40 | NetAmp | watch out for the killer rabbits |
| 21:22:47 | W|GGL|T | sees craploads of html code mixed with ZZ posts |
| 21:23:10 | NetAmp | W|GGL|T: where? |
| 21:24:13 | whardier | jumpin jehosefat! |
| 21:24:19 | whardier | I have me too many computers! |
| 21:24:25 | NetAmp | hah ;) |
| 21:24:27 | W|GGL|T | here's an example: http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/invboard/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=1047&s=73757239e161c419f29d321fac78dce2 |
| 21:24:42 | NetAmp | whow! |
| 21:24:49 | NetAmp | obviously a scripting error |
| 21:25:12 | catalin | hey guys. anyone from Germany in here ? |
| 21:25:22 | W|GGL|T | some posts have none tho |
| 21:25:25 | W|GGL|T | weird |
| 21:25:38 | whardier | are the insides of chip bags all reflective so they make you think you have more chips? |
| 21:25:39 | W|GGL|T | catalin: not i |
| 21:25:45 | tboc | catalin: yep, me |
| 21:25:56 | catalin | tboc: is warez legal in grmany ? |
| 21:25:57 | W|GGL|T | whardier: hehe |
| 21:26:07 | NetAmp | haha |
| 21:26:09 | tboc | catalin: hehe, let me guess: d4n? ;) |
| 21:26:14 | catalin | yes :) |
| 21:26:27 | whardier | hehehe |
| 21:26:27 | catalin | [00:27:00] [d4n] can u send me the adressbook? |
| 21:26:28 | catalin | [00:27:18] >catalin< wouldn't that be illegal ? |
| 21:26:28 | catalin | [00:27:24] [d4n] no |
| 21:26:28 | catalin | [00:28:08] >catalin< are you sure ? where you from ? |
| 21:26:29 | catalin | [00:28:14] [d4n] ger |
| 21:26:31 | tboc | catalin: of course its illegal :) |
| 21:26:36 | NetAmp | haha |
| 21:26:39 | whardier | my grandma is illegal |
| 21:26:41 | W|GGL|T | lol |
| 21:26:52 | W|GGL|T | alien? |
| 21:26:52 | catalin | whardier: and you should be outlawed |
| 21:27:00 | whardier | que!!! |
| 21:27:02 | NetAmp | BigBoss would track you both down and eat you alive :P |
| 21:27:21 | whardier | neeeeeds fluid refreshment! |
| 21:27:23 | catalin | NetAmp: he already ate me alive. I work for BB ;p |
| 21:27:26 | NetAmp | "No-one messes with tkc software, muhahaha" |
| 21:27:35 | NetAmp | catalin: oh yeah that's right! ;) hah |
| 21:27:48 | tboc | NetAmp: no-one _wants_ to mess with em/ their software ;) |
| 21:27:53 | NetAmp | :D |
| 21:27:55 | NetAmp | lol |
| 21:28:18 | catalin | so what do you guys say, should I send tckaddressbook to d4n ? |
| 21:28:46 | Dilb | catalin: do you have tkcplayer ? |
| 21:28:50 | catalin | he's throwing all sort of klingon phrases at me in a provate channel |
| 21:28:57 | catalin | private, even |
| 21:29:06 | catalin | Dilb: yes I do |
| 21:29:20 | Dilb | catalin: could you do a simple test for me ? |
| 21:29:24 | tboc | catalin: shall i tell him to stop? ;P |
| 21:29:48 | catalin | tboc: no, please don't. it would take away all the fun :) |
| 21:30:06 | catalin | Dilb: test what ? |
| 21:30:07 | tboc | catalin: btw. do you think your BB would complain if i copied the player-theme? :) |
| 21:30:35 | Dilb | catalin: I would like to know the load average when playing a ogg vorbis file |
| 21:30:35 | tboc | catalin: mom, got a screenshot somewhere |
| 21:30:36 | catalin | tboc: copied where ? |
| 21:30:43 | tboc | catalin: with gimp |
| 21:31:27 | catalin | Dilb: somewhere between 15 and 30% |
| 21:31:49 | catalin | Dilb: tho I'm using some older version |
| 21:31:50 | Dilb | catalin: I would like a better estimation :) |
| 21:32:04 | Dilb | catalin: older version of tkcplayer ? |
| 21:32:18 | tboc | ah nice, now d4n insults me |
| 21:32:49 | NetAmp | hah |
| 21:32:50 | catalin | Dilb: older as in a couple of months old |
| 21:33:05 | NetAmp | that was pretty lame |
| 21:33:05 | NetAmp | :P |
| 21:33:29 | Dilb | catalin: I didn't know that several release of tkcplayer were made |
| 21:33:35 | Dilb | +s |
| 21:34:04 | catalin | Dilb: I'll get the latest version by tomorrow and let you know. Are you subscribed to our list ? |
| 21:34:44 | Dilb | catalin: no, I don't own a zaurus, I'm only working on a ogg vorbis player too, and I'd like to compare my load with tkcplayer |
| 21:35:15 | catalin | Dilb: what codec are you using ? |
| 21:35:16 | whardier | my office is like an exclusive club |
| 21:35:33 | whardier | only the people that can climb over the 3 file cabinets can get in |
| 21:35:39 | Dilb | catalin: the official one (GPL) and I've rewritten some functions in ASM |
| 21:35:40 | NetAmp | :P |
| 21:35:41 | tboc | catalin: http://217.234.237.180/snapshot.png |
| 21:35:57 | whardier | the ipod theme |
| 21:35:59 | whardier | hehe |
| 21:36:11 | whardier | actually it looks really sharp |
| 21:36:13 | whardier | GEDDIT! |
| 21:36:24 | catalin | tboc: check the Assmosis winamp theme |
| 21:36:39 | tboc | catalin: k |
| 21:37:19 | NetAmp | cool grafix |
| 21:37:48 | catalin | Dilb: an you got it woking on ARM ? Last time I tried it was very slow due to intensive fp calculations |
| 21:38:13 | catalin | Dilb: AFAIK the "official" on is not GPL, btw |
| 21:38:18 | Dilb | catalin: there is a fixed point version now |
| 21:38:30 | Dilb | catalin: ok, BSD and GPL, depending on what you use |
| 21:38:48 | catalin | Dilb: ah, I didn't know about the fixed point one being public |
| 21:39:25 | whardier | http://segfault.bogomip.com/bastard/mp3/Shpongle/ <- great work music |
| 21:39:26 | Dilb | catalin: well, it seems it is included in the latest versions on xiph repository |
| 21:39:27 | whardier | http://segfault.bogomip.com/bastard/mp3/Shpongle/ <- great work music |
| 21:39:56 | Dilb | catalin: Do you know what codec is used in tkcplayer ? |
| 21:40:13 | NetAmp | whardier: jeesh... long tracks? |
| 21:40:14 | tboc | catalin: oh, so you just had to copy it... |
| 21:40:44 | catalin | tboc: sorry ? |
| 21:40:54 | tboc | catalin: the winamp-skin |
| 21:41:20 | catalin | Dilb: the "tremor" codec, AFAIK |
| 21:41:27 | catalin | tboc: right, yes |
| 21:41:33 | tboc | :) |
| 21:41:55 | Dilb | catalin: yes, but is it really a different one or not ? :) |
| 21:41:56 | tboc | catalin: if i had known that before copying it with gimp =) |
| 21:42:20 | catalin | Dilb: even if I knew the answer I couldn't tell it to you :) |
| 21:42:29 | Dilb | catalin: pffff :þ |
| 21:42:37 | catalin | tboc: oh well, you know now :) |
| 21:42:51 | tboc | catalin: thx *g* |
| 21:42:55 | catalin | Dilb: NDA... |
| 21:43:08 | Dilb | catalin: a gdb on tkcplayer could be enough :) or an objdump |
| 21:43:26 | catalin | as a corporate monkey I have some limitations ;p |
| 21:43:36 | bandito_whardier | loves indirect sound! |
| 21:43:57 | catalin | Dilb: not really, as the tremor API is identical to the official one |
| 21:44:02 | Dilb | catalin: at least the load when reading a ogg file, in not protected by NDA :) |
| 21:44:36 | Dilb | catalin: it is even easier to compare the 2 APIs function by function :) |
| 21:44:38 | catalin | Dilb: you're right on that. Ask me tomorrow (after I get the lastest version of the player) and I'll let you know the exact number |
| 21:45:19 | NetAmp | bandito_whardier: hah that's actually pretty cool background music ;) |
| 21:45:28 | bandito_whardier | Shpongle rules my ass |
| 21:45:35 | XavierXeon | (b) |
| 21:45:46 | catalin | Dilb: or send me a reminder email at catalin@climov.com |
| 21:46:04 | Dilb | catalin: last question :) do you know if a patch for gcc is available for profiling ? |
| 21:46:17 | Dilb | catalin: I'll be here tomorrow, I think, no problem |
| 21:46:44 | catalin | Dilb: err, you don't need a patch for gcc, AFAIK |
| 21:47:09 | catalin | there are several profilers out there (search 'kprof' on google for instance) |
| 21:47:49 | Dilb | catalin: I meant gprof, and with gcc 2.95.3-4 and 3.0.x, it is not working |
| 21:48:25 | catalin | Dilb: eek, I didn't know that |
| 21:49:40 | NetAmp | Lets Get Shpongled! |
| 21:49:44 | Dilb | catalin: no problem, I tried to fix it, but I don't know enough about gcc and the libgprof (it seems the problem is in the prof library), in fact I was bored after 5 hours looking for the pb :) |
| 21:50:34 | bandito_whardier | hehe |
| 21:51:11 | ljp | yaknow.. power wires work better if they are plugged in |
| 21:51:23 | ljp | they help boot my computer |
| 21:51:29 | bandito_whardier | true that! |
| 21:51:50 | bandito_whardier | 's cat hates it when he calls him pooch |
| 21:52:26 | bandito_whardier | ljp heard of any good usb audio devices? |
| 21:52:42 | catalin | how well does your player perform (cpu usage) ? |
| 21:53:09 | Dilb | catalin: 25% almost stable |
| 21:53:13 | Dilb | at 206MHz |
| 21:53:28 | ljp | bandito_whardier: yep |
| 21:53:41 | bandito_whardier | ljp: wanna give me the.. heads up? |
| 21:54:00 | ljp | uhhh its cloudy |
| 21:54:07 | bandito_whardier | smacks ljp! |
| 21:55:03 | bandito_whardier | needs to make some flavor enhancing liquid that could treat a can of mtn dew like concentrated syrup |
| 21:55:14 | catalin | Dilb: that's not bad at all |
| 21:55:33 | catalin | Dilb: is the integrized coded in it's own module (xiph cvs) ? |
| 21:55:41 | catalin | codec, even |
| 21:55:52 | ljp | wants to put opie on a desktop and called it a workstation |
| 21:56:08 | Dilb | catalin: I'm sure it would be better if I could to a profile on the SA1110 itslef (I did one on my x86 version, and I'm sure it is not optimum) |
| 21:56:31 | Dilb | catalin: well you have a #define for fixed point version |
| 21:56:39 | Dilb | in the codec itself |
| 21:56:51 | bandito_whardier | loves his X |
| 21:56:55 | bandito_whardier | 11 |
| 21:56:59 | bandito_whardier | not his Ex |
| 21:57:04 | bandito_whardier | she is a big boobed whore |
| 21:58:03 | NetAmp | hah |
| 21:58:32 | bandito_whardier | that I would not mind calling a booty call on |
| 21:58:34 | bandito_whardier | haha |
| 21:58:36 | bandito_whardier | damnit |
| 21:58:39 | bandito_whardier | I hate how that works |
| 22:00:24 | bandito_whardier | Star Sphongled Banner rules |
| 22:03:36 | ljp | pushes the turbo button for more better speed |
| 22:03:53 | NetAmp | I've never heard of them |
| 22:03:53 | NetAmp | (well, not up until now) |
| 22:04:10 | NetAmp | the Z has a turbo button? :P ;) |
| 22:08:16 | ljp | haha.. |
| 22:14:04 | ljp | windows 3.1 is fugly |
| 22:14:34 | NetAmp | a secret turbo button... if you manage to press it, the device turns into a full-blown laptop :P |
| 22:14:37 | NetAmp | yeah |
| 22:14:38 | NetAmp | it is |
| 22:14:59 | NetAmp | Win 3.1 is scary, especially when you look back after all this time ;) |
| 22:15:44 | NetAmp | A while ago I ran progman.exe in Win98 for the nostalgic look ;) |
| 22:16:03 | NetAmp | pretty weird they kept that in there... |
| 22:16:16 | NetAmp | oh well, it's MS :P |
| 22:17:33 | ljp | compares win 3.1 to opie .9 |
| 22:17:39 | dc[movie] | heh |
| 22:17:53 | NetAmp | maybe win 3.1 will run on ARM :P |
| 22:18:39 | catalin | NetAmp: it should, if you port QBasic to the Z ;p |
| 22:18:46 | NetAmp | wahahah |
| 22:19:37 | NetAmp | bet it's more stable than Windows CE/embedded >:) |
| 22:20:46 | catalin | you bet |
| 22:20:50 | ljp | boots up tomsrtbt instead |
| 22:25:28 | bandito_whardier | shoots up crack instead |
| 22:25:49 | | A wide-eyed, innocent UNICORN, poised delicately in a MEADOW filled with LILACS, LOLLIPOPS & small CHILDREN at the HUSH of twilight?? |
| 22:25:49 | NetAmp | ibot: yow |
| 22:26:39 | NetAmp | l8r all |
| 22:28:24 | ljp | its pizza night here at the byte farm |
| 22:39:20 | bandito_whardier | damnit |
| 22:39:23 | bandito_whardier | you suck ljp |
| 22:44:37 | ljp | pizza |
| 22:45:03 | ljp | opie will fit on a 100 mb drive right? :D |
| 22:46:19 | ljp | finds his qtopia floppy |
| 22:55:51 | bandito_whardier | gets to workin on http://hardwire.bogomip.com/ |
| 22:56:02 | bandito_whardier | I have not done any personal graphics since 2000 apparently |
| 22:58:37 | bandito_whardier | did kergoth`errands run off with kergoths girl? |
| 23:00:30 | ][N-Flux | met a Sharp rep today |
| 23:00:53 | ][N-Flux | gvae me a zaurus case :) |
| 23:00:56 | ][N-Flux | gave even |
| 23:08:27 | bandito_whardier | is soo stupid |
| 23:08:34 | bandito_whardier | is now missing a good chunk of finger |
| 23:09:25 | ljp | hardire.bogomip.com bit ya eh? |
| 23:09:54 | bandito_whardier | no my short sword did |
| 23:10:20 | bandito_whardier | was trying to knock a nipple off of something and I missed |
| 23:10:48 | bandito_whardier | good news is.. I won't have to worry about that cuticle for a while |
| 23:18:09 | bandito_whardier | oww |
| 23:18:11 | bandito_whardier | oww |
| 23:18:12 | bandito_whardier | oww |
| 23:18:43 | bandito_whardier | sliced a centimeter long 3mm deep 4mm wide cut in his index finger |
| 23:18:50 | bandito_whardier | sucks that I just happened to have a ruler handy |
| 23:18:52 | bill2or3 | oops |
| 23:19:10 | ljp | you measured the deepness of your cut? |
| 23:19:44 | bandito_whardier | yeah |
| 23:19:46 | bandito_whardier | that hurt |
| 23:20:02 | bandito_whardier | but it was pretty dep so I thought I should know |
| 23:20:04 | bandito_whardier | deep |
| 23:22:32 | [DrEvil] | get a pair of bolt cutters and finish the job |
| 23:24:31 | Nasa | does anyone have java working on OZ? |
| 23:25:38 | ljp | wow.. that pizza guy was a beautiful woman!! |
| 23:26:13 | Nasa | hmm. jlp seems to be in some dream state.... |
| 23:26:24 | Nasa | s/jlp/ljp |
| 23:26:42 | bandito_whardier | ljp I love it when that happens |
| 23:26:46 | bandito_whardier | I don't know quite what to say |
| 23:26:55 | bandito_whardier | the first thing that comes to mind is "wanna see my kitties!" |
| 23:27:23 | ljp | looked more like a stripper trying to go straight |
| 23:27:35 | bandito_whardier | haha |
| 23:27:56 | bandito_whardier | did I tell you about my grant writer friend in girdwood that is helping out a stripper that is looking to start up a youth outreach program |
| 23:28:13 | bandito_whardier | damn girdwoodians |
| 23:28:38 | Cloud | hullo... |
| 23:28:48 | ljp | ya.. anyone thats lived there is a kook |
| 23:28:54 | bandito_whardier | has one bloody finger |
| 23:29:02 | Cloud | reading back it's become apparent that ya'all have had way too much to drink tonight |
| 23:29:12 | bandito_whardier | drinks sprite |
| 23:29:15 | Cloud | hhaha |
| 23:29:38 | ljp | drink? I havent even started yet |
| 23:29:41 | bandito_whardier | hehe |
| 23:29:45 | Cloud | oh i have |
| 23:29:50 | bandito_whardier | gotta get thru that stripper delivered bastard pizza |
| 23:29:51 | Cloud | so i found it all quite amusing ;) |
| 23:30:17 | bandito_whardier | wow |
| 23:30:23 | bandito_whardier | girls can articulate even online |
| 23:30:31 | bandito_whardier | freaky deaky! |
| 23:30:36 | Cloud | imagine that! |
| 23:30:52 | Cloud | but remember.. i'm a geek woman...so the rules are different |
| 23:30:58 | bandito_whardier | heh |
| 23:31:04 | bandito_whardier | is in the closet |
| 23:31:11 | Cloud | you're a closet woman? |
| 23:31:15 | bandito_whardier | no |
| 23:31:17 | bandito_whardier | closet hacker |
| 23:31:20 | Cloud | they had a show about them on jerry springer this week! |
| 23:31:23 | bandito_whardier | haha |
| 23:31:25 | bandito_whardier | sweet! |
| 23:31:29 | Cloud | lol |
| 23:31:31 | bandito_whardier | I have a lot of closet chick friends |
| 23:31:51 | bandito_whardier | atleast every time I show up late to a party I have to identifiy most of my guy friends by the dresses they are wearing |
| 23:32:02 | ljp | is just a lesbian in a mans body |
| 23:32:12 | bandito_whardier | is a midget in a tall guys body |
| 23:32:53 | Cloud | takes a minute to digest this informatin |
| 23:32:55 | ljp | thinks of ordering another pizza |
| 23:33:14 | Cloud | thinks 2 pizzas will go to ljp's hips |
| 23:33:47 | ljp | naaaa |
| 23:33:59 | ljp | but that pizza guy sure can |
| 23:34:04 | Cloud | lol |
| 23:34:45 | bandito_whardier | I really hate it when I slice off things from my body |
| 23:36:18 | bandito_whardier | I am most likely going to electricute myself later |
| 23:37:16 | Cloud | on purpose? |
| 23:37:25 | bandito_whardier | nope |
| 23:37:28 | bandito_whardier | unless luck is purpose |
| 23:38:13 | ljp | dont lick the processor to see if its running again |
| 23:38:16 | Cloud | you think it's luck to electrocute yourself? |
| 23:38:20 | Cloud | haha |
| 23:38:51 | bandito_whardier | licking is for pussies |
| 23:39:00 | bandito_whardier | sorry.. I heard that one day from a kid.. |
| 23:39:08 | bandito_whardier | it was the right time to repeat that |
| 23:39:53 | ljp | what does that have to do with a zaurus? |
| 23:40:10 | bandito_whardier | nothing |
| 23:40:14 | bandito_whardier | pizza stripper boy |
| 23:40:59 | ljp | I would have given her zaurus #2 if she had asked |
| 23:41:04 | bandito_whardier | haha |
| 23:41:10 | bandito_whardier | wouldn't your gf have been mad? |
| 23:41:10 | Cloud | hmmm |
| 23:41:16 | Cloud | wehere do you live ljp? |
| 23:41:22 | Cloud | grabs a pizza |
| 23:41:28 | ljp | 45 miles south of ole bandito |
| 23:41:31 | bandito_whardier | grabs a new bandaid |
| 23:41:37 | ljp | colorado |
| 23:41:52 | bandito_whardier | is gonna banditorize ljp |
| 23:42:03 | bandito_whardier | http://www.detnews.com/2002/metro/020 |
| 23:42:07 | bandito_whardier | oops |
| 23:42:11 | bandito_whardier | http://www.detnews.com/2002/metro/0206/13/metro-514100.htm |
| 23:42:14 | bandito_whardier | ;P |
| 23:44:24 | ljp | I'm too busy for your tom foolery inter net stuff |
| 23:44:52 | bandito_whardier | ? |
| 23:44:54 | bandito_whardier | cries |
| 23:45:08 | Cloud | pats whardier |
| 23:46:34 | ljp | hey its nine minutes to rum o'clock |
| 23:46:42 | bandito_whardier | 10 |
| 23:46:53 | bandito_whardier | mr "I am too good for ntp!" |
| 23:47:31 | bandito_whardier | now its 9 |
| 23:47:42 | ljp | I live too close to that atomic clock in boulder.. it doesn't work so close to that ;) |
| 23:49:16 | bandito_whardier | hahaha |
| 23:50:42 | ljp | time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov -67.137 |
| 23:51:24 | ljp | hey maybe I can live those 67 seconds again when the pizza guy was here! |
| 23:52:51 | bandito_whardier | girl? |
| 23:53:03 | bandito_whardier | or are you just lying about there being a woman and it was a really hot guy? |
| 23:53:11 | ljp | anybody tried opie out at 640x480? |
| 23:53:27 | ljp | pizza guy was a woman |
| 23:53:49 | ljp | with a tight white knit shirt |
| 23:55:17 | ljp | opie looks kinda funny at 1024 |
| 23:56:44 | ljp | hopes she spit on my pizza |
| 23:59:37 | ljp | fine igonore me |
