| 00:00:40 | CloudChaser | - |
| 00:00:46 | whardier | | |
| 00:00:53 | whardier | \ |
| 00:00:58 | whardier | / |
| 00:01:07 | whardier | * |
| 00:01:15 | ljp | hmm I was going to get teambuilder building |
| 00:01:33 | whardier | ljp: :P oh fine.. FINE.. be nerrrrrdy! |
| 00:01:37 | whardier | but just you remember this |
| 00:01:39 | ljp | and mow the lawn |
| 00:01:43 | whardier | forgot what he was gonna say |
| 00:02:01 | whardier | mow the lawn tomorrow night! |
| 00:02:07 | whardier | or come bowling tomorrow night! |
| 00:02:08 | ljp | heh just started compiling gcc on my firewall |
| 00:02:34 | whardier | :( |
| 00:03:14 | ljp | and tb doesn't seem to be hooked up or working |
| 00:03:23 | whardier | :( |
| 00:03:31 | whardier | sticks his toe up his nose? |
| 00:03:35 | whardier | soo.. not this weekend then |
| 00:03:36 | whardier | shit |
| 00:03:43 | whardier | don't make me sound like a crazy EX man! |
| 00:04:08 | whardier | gets all weird and tries to hug ljp |
| 00:04:56 | ljp | had to hook back up ld |
| 00:05:09 | whardier | ? |
| 00:05:15 | ljp | ld |
| 00:05:22 | whardier | whazzat? |
| 00:05:25 | whardier | oh |
| 00:05:26 | whardier | haha |
| 00:05:35 | ljp | hehe /sbin/ld |
| 00:05:48 | whardier | pussyfoots around ljp |
| 00:05:57 | whardier | mumbles boring things to himself |
| 00:06:16 | ljp | do some 3d ghraphics |
| 00:06:21 | whardier | nooooooooooooo |
| 00:06:28 | whardier | I wanna go boooooooooowling! |
| 00:06:57 | whardier | sucks on his teeth a bit |
| 00:07:49 | ljp | nothing is passing through eth0 |
| 00:09:20 | ljp | how do I get my zaurus internetworking? |
| 00:09:26 | whardier | augh |
| 00:09:40 | whardier | you really wanna know or are you just bullshitting |
| 00:10:23 | ljp | hahahaha... |
| 00:10:42 | ljp | i thik it has to do with running netstat or something |
| 00:11:49 | ljp | holds his breathe and does cvs up -PdA |
| 00:12:13 | ljp | hmm or maybe not |
| 00:13:23 | ljp | really wishes tb was working on this gcc build |
| 00:13:26 | kendrick2 | anyone wanna try out brickout? |
| 00:13:36 | ljp | whats brickout? |
| 00:13:37 | kendrick2 | it's not ipkg'd or even tested yet |
| 00:13:42 | kendrick2 | http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/brickout/ |
| 00:13:49 | kendrick2 | originally x11 for agenda vr3 |
| 00:13:57 | kendrick2 | oh shit - nevermind... it doesnt open the sdl window in the right size |
| 00:13:57 | kendrick2 | damn |
| 00:14:07 | kendrick2 | oh well - i'll release something later this weekend i suppose |
| 00:14:17 | ljp | tease |
| 00:14:37 | kendrick2 | :^) |
| 00:15:07 | kendrick2 | barf... |
| 00:15:18 | kendrick2 | i dunno what i should do about all this extra screen realestate |
| 00:15:28 | kendrick2 | i guess it'll work good on the Iris, whenever that comes out ;) |
| 00:15:56 | kendrick2 | ok ok - wanna test it? |
| 00:16:43 | ljp | looks like I have to compile it first |
| 00:16:46 | kendrick2 | no |
| 00:16:58 | kendrick2 | i have a pre-release zaurus version online |
| 00:17:00 | kendrick2 | hang on |
| 00:18:19 | kendrick2 | ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/nbs/unix/agenda/brickout/pre/ |
| 00:18:44 | kendrick2 | you'll need to throw both the compiled program ("brickout.zaurus") and the data files (the "images-sdl/" directory) on the zaurus, somewhere |
| 00:18:50 | kendrick2 | then run the program from the terminal |
| 00:18:55 | kendrick2 | pray that it works ;) |
| 00:19:01 | kendrick2 | (it should work fine, actually...) |
| 00:19:52 | whardier | eats some yogurt and drinks some beer |
| 00:19:57 | whardier | is culterally aware |
| 00:20:17 | kendrick2 | gonna try it, ljp? |
| 00:20:22 | kendrick2 | (or anyone else?) |
| 00:20:27 | kendrick2 | cuz if not, i need to get home now :) |
| 00:20:30 | kendrick2 | if so, i'll hang out to hear the results |
| 00:20:42 | whardier | its kendrick2 !! |
| 00:20:47 | kendrick2 | yep |
| 00:20:49 | kendrick2 | the real one, too |
| 00:20:54 | whardier | haha |
| 00:21:02 | whardier | I saw the cap of the virtual one |
| 00:21:03 | whardier | funny shit |
| 00:21:06 | kendrick2 | :) |
| 00:21:35 | kendrick2 | so so os? |
| 00:21:39 | kendrick2 | gonna try it? |
| 00:23:58 | kendrick2 | damn you people |
| 00:24:01 | kendrick2 | _respond!_ |
| 00:24:03 | kendrick2 | :) |
| 00:24:12 | kendrick2 | don't make me send you to the game grid |
| 00:24:45 | whardier | hmm |
| 00:24:50 | whardier | okay MC |
| 00:25:01 | kendrick2 | MCP ;) |
| 00:25:06 | whardier | has always wanted to kick your ass on the grid! |
| 00:25:09 | kendrick2 | i guess MC for short, huh? |
| 00:25:12 | whardier | hehe |
| 00:25:32 | kendrick2 | alright then - i'm heading home for dinner & swimming |
| 00:25:37 | kendrick2 | expect an ipk later this weekend |
| 00:26:15 | whardier | salutes |
| 00:28:11 | Neo|Work | is away: home |
| 00:28:29 | ljp | he's gone already? |
| 00:28:53 | ljp | it didnt like oz |
| 00:29:20 | whardier | ? |
| 00:29:24 | whardier | to compile oz? |
| 00:29:26 | whardier | well |
| 00:29:38 | whardier | don't you need the cross compilers all funked up for that? |
| 00:29:40 | ljp | brickout |
| 00:30:52 | ljp | hehe |
| 00:31:52 | ljp | hmmm 2 strikes |
| 00:31:59 | whardier | hehehehehehehe |
| 00:32:05 | whardier | casted a spell on you |
| 00:32:29 | ljp | wonders what virus or spyware he just loaded onto his zaurii |
| 00:32:50 | whardier | ooh |
| 00:32:52 | whardier | I HAVE YOUR NUMBERS |
| 00:32:56 | whardier | I HAVE ALL YOUR NUMBERS! |
| 00:33:32 | CloudChaser | lol |
| 00:34:09 | ljp | hmm I have different numbers than you think |
| 00:35:03 | whardier | I do believe I just ate too much custard |
| 00:35:15 | MSpin | grrr...anyone know a way to set the text color of a QListViewItem?? |
| 00:35:22 | MSpin | mmm..custard |
| 00:35:35 | whardier | custard! |
| 00:35:42 | whardier | has custard coming out of his nose! |
| 00:35:51 | MSpin | does that hurt? |
| 00:36:00 | whardier | active cultures are soothing |
| 00:37:33 | ljp | and this custard.. its running on your zaurus? |
| 00:38:06 | whardier | gets the napkin |
| 00:38:07 | whardier | not no more! |
| 00:38:55 | whardier | whats the busybox cvs password? |
| 00:40:48 | ljp | grindo |
| 00:42:10 | whardier | ? |
| 00:42:26 | whardier | and after I fail at the busybox cvs password |
| 00:42:35 | whardier | what should I kill to have it resume looking for the CVS stuff? |
| 00:43:25 | ljp | do I have to wave a magic wand to get teambuilding working? |
| 00:43:30 | whardier | noooo |
| 00:43:37 | whardier | do you have more than one machine :P |
| 00:45:02 | ljp | maybe it needs a go button |
| 00:45:14 | ljp | heh |
| 00:46:07 | ljp | or maybe the processor needs to get to 200% |
| 00:46:17 | whardier | funky |
| 00:46:21 | whardier | do a -j 8 |
| 00:48:01 | ljp | geezz its not working and making thins machine crawl |
| 00:48:13 | whardier | hahaha |
| 00:48:18 | whardier | try -j |
| 00:48:20 | whardier | and just -j |
| 00:51:39 | ljp | needs my faster machine |
| 00:51:45 | whardier | hehe |
| 00:51:49 | whardier | true.. that.. |
| 00:52:00 | whardier | I could open an openMosix tunnel for you |
| 00:52:22 | whardier | we could start a huge openMosix build cluster |
| 00:52:23 | whardier | but.. |
| 00:52:24 | ljp | heh maybe the moffet tunnel |
| 00:52:32 | whardier | it would be like compiling on a p100 |
| 00:52:37 | whardier | after all the internet tra.. what tunnel? |
| 00:52:43 | tux_mike | but a fast p100 :) |
| 00:55:34 | ljp | maybe it needs me to make and edit its config file |
| 00:55:51 | whardier | listens to Daft Punk |
| 00:56:01 | whardier | hmm |
| 00:56:08 | whardier | an openMosix net cluster would be kinda fun |
| 00:56:09 | whardier | haha |
| 00:56:15 | whardier | I wonder how well it would work |
| 00:56:39 | whardier | I could make a server with a bunch of compressed ethernet type tunnels going all over the place |
| 00:56:47 | whardier | it would be transparent to openMosix |
| 00:56:50 | whardier | hmm |
| 00:59:53 | tux_mike | whar: i'd help out if i can :) |
| 00:59:59 | whardier | haha |
| 01:00:01 | whardier | its not hard |
| 01:00:11 | whardier | I just need to have everybody downgrade kernels and patch them |
| 01:00:11 | whardier | haha |
| 01:00:17 | tux_mike | i've got 2 linux boxes, one behind a firewall. |
| 01:00:27 | tux_mike | downgrade my kernel? ook, no way! :P |
| 01:00:31 | whardier | haha |
| 01:00:34 | whardier | to 2.4.17 |
| 01:00:59 | whardier | does not feel like running mosix for a while |
| 01:01:00 | tux_mike | cant you go to 18? :) |
| 01:01:07 | whardier | my dual 933 would always be the highest node |
| 01:01:09 | ljp | hmm interesting... it doesn't automagically make its needed config file |
| 01:01:20 | tux_mike | well, i'm off |
| 01:01:31 | whardier | 18 support is pre pre |
| 01:01:33 | whardier | bye tux_mike |
| 01:01:34 | ljp | ya, well wait till I put glass packs on this thing |
| 01:01:47 | whardier | on your computer? |
| 01:02:08 | whardier | is going to move a P120 into a silver suitcase soon |
| 01:02:14 | whardier | my test node |
| 01:02:17 | whardier | GEDDIT! |
| 01:02:18 | whardier | maybe not |
| 01:02:30 | whardier | good lord.. I need a break from .. stuff |
| 01:02:33 | whardier | actually |
| 01:02:36 | whardier | I need a break from the sun! |
| 01:02:51 | whardier | its coming right in the window! |
| 01:02:53 | whardier | go.fig |
| 01:04:54 | ljp | ooo an I have to make a special make |
| 01:05:18 | whardier | does your cat blink? |
| 01:07:09 | wembly | *sigh* |
| 01:07:16 | wembly | gosh darnit i shoulda enjoyed my tv when i had it :/ |
| 01:08:11 | ljp | hmmmpft |
| 01:08:28 | ljp | ehhh tv... its overrated anyway |
| 01:11:07 | ljp | ahhh here we go.. |
| 01:11:24 | ljp | houston- we have a farm |
| 01:12:33 | ljp | cool.. |
| 01:12:49 | ljp | grabs his laptop |
| 01:15:16 | ljp | opens up an opie farm! |
| 01:15:23 | Nadav | hheh |
| 01:17:53 | whardier | haha |
| 01:19:49 | ljp | decides now is the time to compile nethack and qwhatchamakallit |
| 01:20:24 | ljp | this kould be very kool |
| 01:22:17 | ljp | the key is you have to create the scheduler config file, and make thingy |
| 01:24:32 | wembly | *sigh* |
| 01:24:44 | ljp | does this mean I'm riding a bit plow? |
| 01:24:57 | wembly | qwhatchamakallit? |
| 01:24:59 | wembly | wtf is that? |
| 01:24:59 | ljp | byte tractor |
| 01:25:14 | ljp | haha.. ummm qmame I think I meant |
| 01:31:12 | ljp | hmm teambuilder's going on my dev boot cd |
| 01:31:48 | whardier | haha |
| 01:32:21 | ljp | I likie this technology |
| 01:32:28 | whardier | heh |
| 01:33:00 | ljp | after it compiles opie, I'm gonna try a kernel |
| 01:34:49 | whardier | fun! |
| 01:34:57 | ljp | certainly smells like it compiles faster |
| 01:35:22 | ljp | firewalls probably buriong alot of dust downthere |
| 01:35:30 | ljp | burning even |
| 01:36:15 | whardier | heh |
| 01:37:29 | ljp | and I can monitor gcc down there also.. |
| 01:38:57 | ljp | it would need encryption, but this would be awesome over a public network |
| 01:39:23 | ljp | opie's seti |
| 01:40:06 | ljp | need to try the compression |
| 01:40:53 | whardier | heh |
| 01:40:54 | whardier | well |
| 01:40:57 | whardier | if you need another node |
| 01:40:59 | whardier | just tunnel to me |
| 01:41:18 | ljp | I could have 23 second kernel compiles! |
| 01:41:22 | whardier | no |
| 01:41:24 | whardier | 21 |
| 01:41:52 | ljp | well.. I AM 10 feet from a qwest fiber cable |
| 01:42:24 | whardier | does that help you in any way? |
| 01:42:53 | ljp | heheh just in my mind.. ya know.. internet pressure |
| 01:42:58 | whardier | man I hate building OZ |
| 01:43:03 | whardier | what are all the CVS passwords! |
| 01:43:08 | ljp | use teambuilder |
| 01:43:37 | whardier | ? |
| 01:44:01 | ljp | I dont know any passwords |
| 01:44:30 | whardier | anoncvs |
| 01:44:32 | whardier | then none |
| 01:44:34 | whardier | then anoncvs |
| 01:44:35 | ljp | I was supposed to get sshcvs to oz.. but it asks for my password |
| 01:44:35 | whardier | then none |
| 01:46:36 | ljp | thinks about running teambuilder on the Z |
| 01:46:51 | whardier | dear lord OZ build system is a hack2 |
| 01:47:22 | ljp | dont know, I've never built OZ |
| 01:48:22 | ljp | now, I wonder if these binaries it creates will actually run |
| 01:48:31 | whardier | haha |
| 01:48:31 | whardier | no |
| 01:48:35 | whardier | they are segmented wrong |
| 01:49:17 | ljp | probly |
| 01:50:41 | ljp | done |
| 01:51:14 | | 36 |
| 01:51:14 | ljp | ibot: 55 - 19 |
| 01:58:48 | ljp | hmm starts kernel build |
| 02:00:13 | ljp | ahh now I can tell its sped up |
| 02:00:42 | whardier | err |
| 02:00:44 | whardier | ljp |
| 02:00:52 | ljp | wha |
| 02:00:53 | whardier | append "time" to the beginning of kernel builds |
| 02:00:57 | whardier | time make bzImage |
| 02:01:12 | ljp | too late |
| 02:01:25 | whardier | thats the accurate way of doing it |
| 02:01:40 | ljp | hey its way longer than 23 seconds |
| 02:02:11 | whardier | hehehe |
| 02:02:16 | whardier | it takes a lot to get that low |
| 02:02:30 | whardier | I had 4 machines in a mosix cluster and I could not touch 1 minute for the life of me |
| 02:04:17 | ljp | well.. there is a computer in boulder that would do that |
| 02:04:50 | warmi | re |
| 02:05:03 | ljp | the blug used to have meetings in the same building |
| 02:07:57 | ljp | damn.. I missed the ending |
| 02:08:11 | whardier | hehehe |
| 02:08:34 | warmi | ljp: looking at the Entertainment category .... there is no question, Gutenbrowser will get the laptop there |
| 02:08:37 | warmi | heh |
| 02:09:21 | ljp | hmm I wish they'd just announce the winners.. thanks |
| 02:09:44 | ljp | ok whardier.. time make bzImage |
| 02:09:45 | warmi | yeah |
| 02:10:13 | whardier | make distclean first |
| 02:10:51 | warmi | whoa .. whardier actually said something relevant to this channel |
| 02:10:52 | warmi | heh |
| 02:11:32 | ljp | crap.. too late |
| 02:11:50 | whardier | warmi I did? |
| 02:12:09 | warmi | yep, you surely did |
| 02:13:03 | whardier | Kenshin? |
| 02:13:42 | warmi | btw whardier: are you in the contest ? |
| 02:13:45 | whardier | go flush a toilet |
| 02:13:53 | whardier | what contest? |
| 02:14:09 | warmi | Trolls contest |
| 02:14:11 | ljp | hahahah whardier??? contest??? hahahaha |
| 02:14:19 | whardier | ljp? |
| 02:14:41 | ljp | heh I just thought that was funny.. |
| 02:14:48 | warmi | heh |
| 02:15:05 | warmi | actually, that was a serious question |
| 02:15:30 | whardier | I uh |
| 02:15:32 | whardier | can't program |
| 02:15:36 | whardier | apps anyways |
| 02:15:37 | whardier | I tried once |
| 02:15:39 | whardier | and well |
| 02:15:43 | whardier | its a long story |
| 02:15:51 | whardier | the only thing I am good at is demo graphics |
| 02:15:57 | warmi | I know you can do graphics |
| 02:15:59 | ljp | I was laughing at whardier being a programmer... :) |
| 02:16:00 | whardier | I can't stand people yapping about the functionality of programs |
| 02:16:07 | whardier | ljp.. you would be surprised :P |
| 02:16:25 | whardier | I just don't have lots of C++ experience |
| 02:17:10 | warmi | whardier: which program do you use working on your graphic stuff |
| 02:17:11 | warmi | ? |
| 02:17:24 | bhartin | Does anyone know how to disable the Hancom office warnings about opening large files? this is *extremely* irritating... |
| 02:17:44 | whardier | warmi I use gimp/povray/truespace/micrografx stuff |
| 02:18:05 | wembly | *sigh* |
| 02:18:05 | wembly | well |
| 02:18:09 | wembly | i would of tested opie-remote |
| 02:18:18 | wembly | if i had a damned freakin tv to test the thing on :P |
| 02:19:10 | warmi | yeah, I created Puzz-le graphic in Truespace |
| 02:19:35 | warmi | but it looked too clean .. computer like so I run in thru various deformations in 2d app ( MS Image Composer of all things) |
| 02:20:06 | wembly | hehe |
| 02:20:23 | warmi | I tried to play around with Gimp but it is just too weird with that single huge menu |
| 02:20:44 | warmi | but I do like some of their "scripts" for creating various canned images |
| 02:21:03 | ljp | orders pizza for the hungry byte farmer |
| 02:21:24 | whardier | man |
| 02:21:27 | whardier | I sohuld order a pizza! |
| 02:21:30 | whardier | shouiasdlf |
| 02:21:30 | whardier | ! |
| 02:21:33 | whardier | no |
| 02:21:37 | whardier | I shouldnt |
| 02:21:40 | whardier | that expensive |
| 02:21:44 | warmi | hehe |
| 02:21:45 | whardier | eats his stroggannoff! |
| 02:21:57 | ljp | 9:05.73 |
| 02:22:15 | ljp | 43% CPU |
| 02:23:03 | ljp | try that whardier |
| 02:27:39 | whardier | err |
| 02:27:40 | whardier | ok |
| 02:27:42 | whardier | what kernel? |
| 02:28:28 | whardier | hey |
| 02:28:31 | whardier | you wanna dickwave |
| 02:28:33 | whardier | what kernel? |
| 02:29:23 | ljp | 2.4.18-6mdk |
| 02:30:34 | whardier | ok |
| 02:30:36 | whardier | uno momento |
| 02:32:04 | whardier | performs a time make -j 8 dep bzImage |
| 02:32:09 | whardier | bbl |
| 02:32:12 | whardier | stepping out for a smoke |
| 02:33:10 | whardier | oops |
| 02:33:13 | whardier | I have to make dep first |
| 02:33:19 | whardier | -j does not like the world of dep |
| 02:33:21 | ljp | how many boxen? |
| 02:35:36 | whardier | 1 |
| 02:35:51 | whardier | deconfig |
| 02:35:54 | whardier | 2.4.188 |
| 02:35:56 | whardier | defconfig |
| 02:36:00 | whardier | after make dep |
| 02:36:03 | whardier | this should be done soon |
| 02:36:06 | whardier | stops playing mp3s |
| 02:36:11 | whardier | that probably did not help |
| 02:38:09 | whardier | oops |
| 02:38:11 | whardier | I did not time it |
| 02:38:12 | whardier | haha |
| 02:38:24 | whardier | [-(Fri 2002-06-07 20:38:48)-(/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/)-]> sudo make -j 8 bzImage (hardwire @ BastarD) |
| 02:38:35 | whardier | [-(Fri 2002-06-07 20:41:48)-(/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/)-]> (hardwire @ BastarD) |
| 02:38:40 | whardier | heh |
| 02:38:44 | whardier | so uh |
| 02:38:47 | whardier | 3 minutes |
| 02:39:00 | whardier | exactly |
| 02:39:01 | whardier | haha |
| 02:39:18 | whardier | thats on a dual 933mhz system |
| 02:41:08 | ljp | ya.. mine was on a 500, a 450, and a 133 |
| 02:42:13 | whardier | haha |
| 02:42:16 | whardier | and the 133 did nothing |
| 02:42:18 | | 1083 |
| 02:42:18 | ljp | ibot: 450 + 500 + 133 |
| 02:42:24 | whardier | thats not how it works |
| 02:42:28 | | 1866 |
| 02:42:28 | ljp | ibot: 933 * 2 |
| 02:42:30 | whardier | its sort of effenciency of the host |
| 02:42:41 | ljp | host links |
| 02:42:41 | whardier | mine was probably around 80% effecient |
| 02:42:55 | ljp | the 133 was pegged |
| 02:42:56 | whardier | where yours was most likely a combo of around 50% effecient |
| 02:43:02 | whardier | if the 133 was pegged |
| 02:43:06 | whardier | then their stuff sucks |
| 02:43:13 | whardier | it should have known where to compile stuff |
| 02:43:18 | ljp | it did |
| 02:43:27 | whardier | most regular machines can compile a kernel in around 8 minutes standalone |
| 02:43:29 | ljp | it did speed it up |
| 02:43:30 | whardier | no like where has the most free cycles |
| 02:43:37 | whardier | it did spee dup by what factor? |
| 02:43:51 | ljp | hang on lemme do a one box |
| 02:44:07 | whardier | hasn't dopne a box in a while |
| 02:44:34 | ljp | grumbles... |
| 02:45:41 | ljp | now.. if I had booted linux on the p900.. it would be a different story |
| 02:46:56 | whardier | heh |
| 02:47:05 | whardier | needs more custard |
| 02:48:09 | ljp | I bet I could speed up my compile time if I added that p66! whoa- boy! |
| 02:53:21 | warmi | ljp: are you doing some sort of distributed compilation ? |
| 02:53:57 | whardier | on to the pudding! |
| 02:54:55 | ljp | warmi: yes with teambuilder |
| 02:55:26 | warmi | oh that Trolls thingy |
| 02:55:33 | warmi | does it really work ? |
| 02:56:17 | ljp | appears too |
| 02:56:29 | warmi | ha .. I have 1 Ghz box and 300 Mhz .. I guess I woudn't see much difference there |
| 02:56:34 | whardier | I sorta wish goofy kergoth was online |
| 02:56:54 | ljp | kergoth hath no net at his harth |
| 02:57:01 | ben | Hi everybody |
| 02:57:03 | ben | :-D |
| 02:57:10 | ben | I have net access at home! |
| 02:57:11 | ben | yah |
| 02:57:12 | warmi | if that were Kergoth .. man, it would be freaky |
| 02:57:15 | ben | little dance |
| 02:57:24 | ljp | oh my god |
| 02:57:29 | ljp | thats funny |
| 02:57:36 | ben | now just need to update debian |
| 02:57:49 | ben | no net for 3 months on my box means big update |
| 02:57:50 | ben | hehe |
| 02:58:03 | ben | finally can update my website... so much to do... |
| 02:58:12 | ben | working on a multiplayer game for the z |
| 02:58:19 | warmi | what game ? |
| 02:58:19 | ben | going to do that this weekend |
| 02:58:49 | ben | in sttng the game that data played against that really smart game and lost. statagema |
| 02:58:55 | ben | has 3 levels |
| 02:59:03 | ben | you try to turn all three levels your color |
| 03:00:24 | Wiazrdz | Hiya peoples. |
| 03:00:27 | warmi | hi |
| 03:00:41 | Wiazrdz | I am looking for all kinds of informtion. |
| 03:00:47 | ljp | whardier: 15:15.86 |
| 03:00:51 | warmi | don't we all |
| 03:00:53 | warmi | heh |
| 03:00:59 | jmhodges | hey guys |
| 03:01:04 | ljp | thats more than 33% faster |
| 03:01:15 | Wiazrdz | speed tweaks? |
| 03:01:20 | warmi | medieval |
| 03:01:27 | warmi | ok .. enough for today |
| 03:01:28 | warmi | heeh |
| 03:01:29 | ljp | no distrubuted compiling |
| 03:01:38 | ljp | distributed even |
| 03:01:47 | warmi | disturbed |
| 03:01:48 | warmi | hehe |
| 03:01:49 | whardier | heh |
| 03:02:20 | ben | I just spent the last 6 hours wiring up my computer room. 7 computer. What an incentive having a cable modem is for getting things up and running |
| 03:02:21 | whardier | Augh |
| 03:02:28 | whardier | I seem to be on some sort of pudding/custard spree |
| 03:02:44 | warmi | yeah... I know what yout alking about ben |
| 03:02:45 | ben | anyone have any recomendations for a wirless router? |
| 03:02:55 | whardier | not linksys |
| 03:02:55 | ljp | wow.. I could probably do a 5 minute kernel compile with 7 boxes |
| 03:02:55 | whardier | haha |
| 03:02:57 | ben | heard linksys is good |
| 03:02:59 | ben | oh no/ |
| 03:03:00 | ben | ? |
| 03:03:03 | warmi | hehe |
| 03:03:05 | whardier | it likes to reboot itself |
| 03:03:07 | ben | well 1 is windows |
| 03:03:08 | Wiazrdz | Netgear |
| 03:03:11 | ljp | linksys is cheap |
| 03:03:12 | whardier | Netgears is neat |
| 03:03:15 | whardier | use SMC |
| 03:03:19 | warmi | netgear is cheaper I think |
| 03:03:22 | whardier | or the Orinoco RG-2000 |
| 03:03:31 | whardier | it can make toast! |
| 03:03:33 | Wiazrdz | Xsense - Cisco |
| 03:04:01 | ljp | my IBM scsi drive can make toast |
| 03:04:06 | warmi | how about just good old 10baseT for #20 |
| 03:04:08 | warmi | $20 |
| 03:04:12 | ben | any wireless routers also do vpn? |
| 03:04:25 | Wiazrdz | Do you guys know of some qpe feeds? |
| 03:04:30 | | i heard feed was a package repository or http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds or http://www.zauruszone.com/feed/ or http://openzaurus.sf.net/feeds/3.0/ for OpenZaurus |
| 03:04:30 | ben | ibot feed |
| 03:04:31 | ben | hehe |
| 03:04:38 | ben | zz I run |
| 03:05:23 | Wiazrdz | -grin- I have some openzaurus questions. |
| 03:05:27 | jmhodges | ben: sweet:) |
| 03:05:33 | warmi | oh .. that's ljp then |
| 03:05:35 | jmhodges | hrm... |
| 03:05:36 | warmi | hehehehe |
| 03:05:44 | ljp | hides behind his pizza |
| 03:05:44 | warmi | he is OZ dude around here |
| 03:05:47 | warmi | :-) |
| 03:05:55 | Wiazrdz | nod |
| 03:05:57 | ljp | whardier also |
| 03:06:27 | ben | what are your questoins? |
| 03:06:31 | Wiazrdz | I am having a problem getting my usb network connection properly and reliably working in openzaurus. |
| 03:06:33 | warmi | what is cindirella app ? |
| 03:06:44 | warmi | I just saw it in the zauruszone feed |
| 03:06:49 | ben | a math app |
| 03:06:55 | ben | expires Dec 1st |
| 03:07:00 | ben | got a special build for the feed |
| 03:07:00 | ben | :-D |
| 03:07:03 | warmi | expires ? |
| 03:07:04 | warmi | hah |
| 03:07:09 | ljp | Wiazrdz: do you have the latest intelsync? or qtopiadesktop? |
| 03:07:09 | warmi | nice |
| 03:07:11 | ben | it is commercial |
| 03:07:27 | Wiazrdz | I have Intelsync. |
| 03:07:42 | ljp | the one on the cd, or one you downloaded? |
| 03:08:21 | jmhodges_ | sigh... |
| 03:08:23 | jmhodges_ | ljp: did you get my question |
| 03:08:25 | jmhodges_ | ? |
| 03:08:32 | warmi | oh it is geometry , function plotting style thingy |
| 03:08:39 | Wiazrdz | My problem is two fold. One I cannot get the net connection to run properly all the time, not without resetting the usb.conf files and remounting the zuaurus in the cradle. The second problem is that once I get the net up it won't sync with the computer. |
| 03:08:48 | Wiazrdz | one on cd. |
| 03:09:08 | ljp | jmhodges: nope, missed it |
| 03:09:22 | kaygee | would anyone care to take a crack at an SD issue that has been stumping me all day? |
| 03:09:32 | ljp | Wiazrdz: try this one-> http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/download.asp |
| 03:09:46 | ben | hmmm.. I guess there is no wireless router that does vpn |
| 03:09:48 | ben | bummer |
| 03:09:50 | jmhodges | cool (got disconnected not your fault) ljp: how well does qpe data wokr in opie? |
| 03:10:07 | ljp | should be totally compatible |
| 03:10:15 | jmhodges | thanks ljp |
| 03:10:18 | Wiazrdz | Xsense - Cisco based. |
| 03:10:32 | jmhodges | ljp: before i make the move what obscure bit of info might i miss in a HOWTO ? |
| 03:10:37 | ljp | I sync stuff between opie z, and my sharp z no problems |
| 03:10:55 | ljp | move to oz? |
| 03:10:57 | jmhodges | ljp: two z's whoa.. |
| 03:11:11 | jmhodges | ljp: yeah i was about to clarify when you astounded me with that info :) |
| 03:11:24 | ljp | well.. lemme tell ya how it is, and you can decide if you want to deal |
| 03:11:43 | jmhodges | ljp: cool |
| 03:11:47 | Wiazrdz | I am in the process of moving to OZ ... but my first two attempts have not been fun. I have luckily backed up the ospack image and a backup file of the working config. |
| 03:11:48 | kaygee | is there a known issue with SD cards being mounted read-only even after fstab and sdcontrol changes? |
| 03:12:19 | ljp | Wiazrdz: you'll have to uninstall hwclock and run /etc/init.d/atd start |
| 03:12:47 | ljp | that should take care of the time suspend issue |
| 03:13:07 | Wiazrdz | time suspend? |
| 03:13:16 | kaygee | has anyone run into this problem before? |
| 03:13:16 | ljp | it seems alarms aren't waking the machine up from suspend |
| 03:13:51 | Wiazrdz | Alarms? |
| 03:13:55 | ljp | kaytgee: only if there's filesystem damage |
| 03:14:21 | ljp | Wiazrdz: yes.. like calander alarms, and stuff.. |
| 03:14:21 | kaygee | I see, well it did it right out of the package |
| 03:14:41 | kaygee | so I changed the stuff in fstab, but it would still do it |
| 03:14:46 | ljp | kaygee: what sd card |
| 03:14:54 | kaygee | sandisk 128Mb |
| 03:15:43 | ljp | hmm I think I have heard some issues with 128 mb cards like that.. didn't really follow it tho |
| 03:15:50 | kaygee | it will mount initially as rw, but then as soon as something is written to it then it jumps to ro |
| 03:15:57 | Wiazrdz | I did not have a suspend problem ... how does that pertain to the network problem I was having? |
| 03:15:59 | ljp | hmm odd |
| 03:16:29 | kaygee | so I fdisked it to type 83 (linux) and the mke2fs'd it to ext2 |
| 03:16:40 | kaygee | but it still says vfat in mount |
| 03:16:43 | Wiazrdz | 4B10e 4R10ight 4B10ack |
| 03:17:03 | [DrEvil] | oh boy |
| 03:17:12 | ljp | kaygee: did you run fdisk? |
| 03:17:21 | kaygee | then I saw a BBS message that said you needed to adjust /etc/sdcontrol |
| 03:17:27 | ljp | or change /etc/fstab? |
| 03:17:30 | kaygee | yeah, several times actually |
| 03:17:42 | ljp | oh sorry. didnt see that |
| 03:17:44 | kaygee | fdisk reports it as type 83 |
| 03:17:50 | kaygee | but mount says vfat |
| 03:18:08 | ljp | whats /etc/fstab say? |
| 03:18:10 | kaygee | anyway then I messed with sdcontrol and set some default variables |
| 03:18:57 | ljp | if the line in fstab for /mnt/card says auto, change it to ext2 |
| 03:19:06 | ljp | see if that helps |
| 03:19:26 | kaygee | "/dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card ext2 noauto,owner 0 0" |
| 03:19:34 | ljp | hmm |
| 03:19:47 | ljp | run fsck on it |
| 03:20:08 | kaygee | alright |
| 03:20:47 | kaygee | yeah, I got this before, something about a zero-length partition |
| 03:21:08 | ljp | hmm |
| 03:21:10 | kaygee | do you think that fdisk or mke2fs might be doing something wrong? |
| 03:21:22 | kaygee | they are just straight debian arm ports, right? |
| 03:21:28 | ljp | yes |
| 03:22:03 | ljp | maybe the mount is getting confused by the o length partition.. |
| 03:22:04 | kaygee | but that's the thing, fdisk says linux, mount says vfat, it mounts as vfat, but then switches to read only |
| 03:22:27 | kaygee | well, I thought maybe, but it doesn't complain it just mounts it as vfat |
| 03:22:39 | ljp | can you mount it manually as ext2? |
| 03:22:43 | kaygee | so then I thought that maybe fdisk was not creating the partition correctly |
| 03:23:06 | Wiazrdz | 4B10ack |
| 03:23:31 | kaygee | no, it says Invalid argument |
| 03:23:43 | kaygee | but the only arg I gave was -t ext2 |
| 03:24:16 | jmhodges | ljp: what did you want to tell me about OZ? |
| 03:24:22 | kaygee | for some reason, however, that doesn't seem to trip up sdmgr which goes ahead and mounts it vfat |
| 03:25:42 | ljp | hmm |
| 03:26:05 | ljp | jmhodges: there's some funkiness with time on oz |
| 03:26:13 | kaygee | I found like one BB message from another guy who had this issue, but there was no reply |
| 03:26:16 | jmhodges | like? ljp |
| 03:27:27 | ljp | jmhodges: you have to manually run /etc/init.d/atd start |
| 03:27:41 | jmhodges | ooh.. ouch. no initscripts do it? |
| 03:27:49 | Wiazrdz | Whats the newest OZ romimage? |
| 03:27:56 | jmhodges | beta10 Wiazrdz |
| 03:28:07 | ljp | yes, but the hwclock package conflicts and stops atd from running |
| 03:28:34 | Wiazrdz | Is that the one offered at the sourceforge url? |
| 03:29:23 | jmhodges | ljp: yikes. whats being done to fix it? |
| 03:30:08 | ljp | not sure.. thats kergoth's territory |
| 03:30:42 | jmhodges | hrm.. |
| 03:30:49 | Wiazrdz | is he on? |
| 03:31:14 | ljp | not right now.. he's been moving lately so he's not on at night |
| 03:31:52 | Wiazrdz | nod ... do you have a url to the B10 of OZ? |
| 03:33:41 | ljp | http://sourceforge.net/projects/openzaurus/ |
| 03:37:26 | Wiazrdz | Okay thats the same image I have :) |
| 03:37:42 | Wiazrdz | What about java for the OZ ... stuff like Jeode? |
| 03:38:05 | jmhodges | Wiazrdz: they are porting blackdown |
| 03:38:40 | ljp | no java yet |
| 03:38:45 | Wiazrdz | nod |
| 03:39:06 | ljp | kaffee is also being worked on |
| 03:39:38 | Wiazrdz | I can live without java for awhile. |
| 03:39:56 | Wiazrdz | I am flashing the Zaurus right now. I have a 5500. |
| 03:41:44 | jmhodges | hehe |
| 03:41:49 | jmhodges | would but.. |
| 03:41:51 | ljp | good luck. make sure you have a way back out |
| 03:42:39 | Wiazrdz | I have the most recent ospack image and a backup of my setup [like two minutes ago]. |
| 03:42:58 | Zxcvb | is there a good NES emulator for the zaurus available? |
| 03:49:12 | CloudChaser | not that i know of |
| 03:50:00 | CloudChaser | heya jm.. :) |
| 03:50:37 | Wiazrdz | How do I change the ver statement. |
| 03:50:41 | jmhodges | hey CloudChaser |
| 03:53:52 | CloudChaser | what's up with you tonight? |
| 03:53:57 | jmhodges | not much |
| 03:54:16 | jmhodges | debating whether i should just go hardcore and put OZ on my Z tonight.. |
| 03:54:22 | CloudChaser | ooh |
| 03:54:35 | jmhodges | and whether i would screw it up so bad that i wouldnt be able to fix it before my trip |
| 03:54:35 | CloudChaser | i want to try it but i'll wait til its more finished |
| 03:54:47 | CloudChaser | ah where are you off to? |
| 03:54:48 | jmhodges | ljp: whens the next beta going to come out? |
| 03:54:53 | Wiazrdz | is thier away to have an option to choose usb tcp/ip from the network icon in OPie? |
| 03:55:16 | jmhodges | CloudChaser: france and spain.. :) its a school thing.. well.. seeing as i graduated its "sorta" a school thing |
| 03:55:29 | CloudChaser | nice! |
| 03:55:38 | CloudChaser | hope you have a great time! |
| 03:55:51 | jmhodges | i hope so too! |
| 03:56:04 | ljp | jmhodges: not sure hopefully soon |
| 03:56:18 | jmhodges | excellent ljp :) |
| 03:56:23 | jmhodges | kev: like zic? |
| 03:56:34 | kev | i do |
| 03:56:40 | jmhodges | hehe |
| 03:57:19 | jmhodgeZ | as do i |
| 04:10:21 | jmhodges | much better ljp |
| 04:13:18 | wembly | jmhodges: well. |
| 04:17:20 | Zxcvb | has anyone looked into gameboy advance games on the zaurus? |
| 04:24:55 | CloudChaser | i tried it |
| 04:24:59 | CloudChaser | couldn't get it to work |
| 04:25:24 | CloudChaser | haven't been able to find anyone who has or knows how to get it to work |
| 04:32:53 | jmhodges | bam.. got it.. |
| 04:32:56 | jmhodges | whoops wrong chat |
| 04:33:07 | CloudChaser | hehe |
| 07:37:43 | jmhodges | weird |
| 07:42:09 | NoRemorse | hello |
| 07:44:09 | jmhodges | hey |
| 07:45:28 | NoRemorse | using jabber irc instead od zic |
| 07:45:33 | NoRemorse | of |
| 07:52:30 | jmhodges | hehe cool |
| 07:52:39 | jmhodges | NoRemorse: what ROM sharp or OZ ? |
| 07:54:18 | NoRemorse | shrp |
| 07:54:33 | jmhodges | cool |
| 07:54:43 | jmhodges | NoRemorse: is taht the jabber you have to pay for right? |
| 08:08:41 | mark | NeoTron: how is ur on-the-fly compression done? |
| 09:17:25 | mark | hi dc_ |
| 09:22:46 | dc_ | mark: hey! someone is awake :: |
| 09:22:47 | dc_ | :) |
| 09:25:31 | mark | dc_: hardly |
| 09:26:06 | dc_ | mark: hehee |
| 09:26:13 | dc_ | just had his morning coffee |
| 09:27:12 | mark | is away: hair cut |
| 09:27:53 | dc_ | :} |
| 09:27:57 | dc_ | i need a hair cut :/ |
| 10:36:07 | mark | dc_: they are so boring |
| 10:36:58 | dc_ | :} |
| 10:43:28 | mark | anyone any good with gimp/images? |
| 10:44:43 | dc_ | for what ;)? |
| 10:45:00 | dc_ | mark: ;D |
| 11:22:23 | mark | dc_: i need to turn an image for transparency to transparency |
| 11:22:26 | mark | or something ;-) |
| 11:59:47 | mark__ | dc_: is it possible to scrip this thing? |
| 11:59:57 | mark__ | i have like 250 images I need to resize and indexize |
| 12:11:11 | mark | dc__: did you get that? |
| 12:12:32 | ljp | who me? |
| 12:14:01 | dc__ | mark: sorry no. |
| 12:14:05 | dc__ | mark: what was it? |
| 12:14:11 | mark | dc__: how to script gimp |
| 12:14:16 | mark | a question |
| 12:14:58 | dc__ | again.. |
| 12:15:37 | mark | dc__: I'd like to make a script or macro or something, as I need to carry out the same operation to about 250 images |
| 12:15:57 | mark | (gimp) |
| 12:16:17 | dc__ | mark: sorry, I don't know about gimp scripting :/ |
| 12:16:28 | dc__ | mark: just flimsy icons making ;/ |
| 12:18:09 | mark | heh |
| 12:18:16 | mark | thinks he'll pay harlekin to do all this |
| 12:20:08 | CloudChaser | 'mornin |
| 12:21:31 | ljp | whardier also might know how, mark |
| 12:22:00 | mark | ljp: heh, easier to let harlekin do it all than find out for myself heh |
| 12:22:33 | ljp | hehe |
| 12:28:04 | ljp | you guys should check out teambuilder, if you have a network at home, and compile stuff |
| 12:29:50 | ljp | I hooked up 3 boxes, a 500, a 450, and a 133, shaved 33% off kernel compile time |
| 12:30:06 | mark | ljp: compile stuff on the Z? :) |
| 12:31:20 | ljp | no.. hehe.. |
| 12:31:33 | ljp | I dont think teambuilder would run on the z.. |
| 12:31:50 | ljp | but I DID think about that |
| 12:31:57 | mark | ;-) |
| 12:40:33 | ljp | heh-> For a list of winners (available after March 14, 2002 [postponed: April 14th]), visit the |
| 12:40:33 | ljp | Trolltech website. |
| 12:40:46 | mark | hehe |
| 12:48:05 | ljp | hmmm lets see if that email addy bounces |
| 13:46:35 | CloudChaser | 'mornin |
| 13:51:04 | ljp | yes it sure is here |
| 13:51:18 | ljp | going to be frickin' _HOT_ today |
| 13:52:44 | CloudChaser | should be just about perfect here |
| 13:52:47 | CloudChaser | in the 70's |
| 13:53:31 | ljp | eeesshh. and with all my computers/monitors/amplifiers running .. it'll be unbarable, cause I have no cooling except a fan |
| 13:53:52 | ljp | supposed to be near 100 today |
| 13:54:03 | CloudChaser | wow |
| 13:54:11 | tux_mike | bastard. |
| 13:54:18 | ljp | nice right now, tho |
| 13:54:59 | ljp | who me? |
| 13:55:29 | CloudChaser | ok instead of serial device /dev/modem, i want com 1 |
| 13:55:34 | tux_mike | more or less :) why do you get the hot weather :) |
| 13:56:44 | ljp | I hate hot weather- you can have upper 90's |
| 13:57:18 | ljp | CloudChaser: /dev/modem is usually a symlink to the real device |
| 13:57:48 | CloudChaser | ok but i dont want to hook a modem to serial i want to connect with cable on com 1 |
| 13:57:58 | tux_mike | i hate cold weather. below 70 is just too cold for me |
| 13:58:28 | CloudChaser | hehe same here tux_mike |
| 13:58:34 | CloudChaser | it was 58 here yesterday...brrr |
| 13:58:35 | ljp | com1 == /dev/ttys0 I think.. I rememeber maybe |
| 13:59:03 | ljp | ooohhh.. |
| 13:59:21 | ljp | 58 sounds nice.. its about that currently |
| 14:01:04 | CloudChaser | hehe thanks for the help ljp...i had meant to ask that in other irc room... |
| 14:01:10 | CloudChaser | goes for more caffeine |
| 14:04:49 | CloudChaser | so what's new and exciting in Z land today? |
| 16:34:55 | surge | is the mpegplayer on default zaurus proprietry software? if not, wheres its homepage? |
| 16:53:21 | surge | or better yet, what mpeg2 video/audio format can it play? ive created 100s of different formats by now, and it never plays the video |
| 16:54:03 | Twiun | Hey surge |
| 16:54:14 | surge | hi Twiun |
| 16:54:38 | Twiun | The player plays mp1 very well... I'm not sure mp2 is supported |
| 16:55:28 | surge | yes, ive got other mpg2s that work, but for some reason when i encode them myself they wont play the video |
| 16:55:37 | Twiun | It seems that MPlayer works on the ipaq, so it should be possible to get that working too |
| 16:55:43 | surge | i cant figure out the format it wants |
| 16:56:06 | Twiun | do you have a small mp2 I could have a look at? |
| 16:56:16 | Twiun | see if I could figure out what format it needs? |
| 16:56:20 | surge | err... *grin* |
| 16:56:27 | Twiun | Ahhh ;-) |
| 16:56:28 | surge | a working one? |
| 16:56:39 | surge | or a non-working one? |
| 16:56:45 | Twiun | a working one if possible |
| 16:56:49 | surge | ok... |
| 16:57:07 | Twiun | twiun@adorphuye.com |
| 16:57:52 | CloudChaser | 'mornin |
| 16:57:57 | surge | Twiun: prepare to be shocked :) |
| 16:58:00 | CloudChaser | er good afternoon that is |
| 16:58:17 | Twiun | Hehe |
| 16:58:21 | Twiun | Heya CloudChaser |
| 16:58:29 | CloudChaser | how are things with you today? |
| 16:59:05 | surge | Twiun: this one is an mpeg2 program stream, but i want to try to encode it much smaller, so i can evertually fit a whole movie on. whenever i encode it, it doesnt play video |
| 16:59:46 | Twiun | CloudChaser: Not too bad.... bit tired... how about yourself? |
| 17:00:01 | CloudChaser | not too bad here..trying to motivate |
| 17:00:02 | Twiun | surge: Ok at 3% so far ;-) |
| 17:00:15 | surge | hmm, wait, its mpeg1 :/ |
| 17:00:47 | surge | Twiun: maybe youre right :/ |
| 17:00:53 | Twiun | Ok, cancelling the download ;-) |
| 17:01:50 | Twiun | here's where I found the MPlayer info: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpaqMedia |
| 17:02:11 | Twiun | granted it's Ipaq/X11 specific, but could we get that working with the SDL driver? |
| 17:02:28 | surge | ah ha! |
| 17:02:35 | surge | finally!!! |
| 17:03:02 | Twiun | Got it working? |
| 17:06:01 | surge | well... it started to play some video but then it crashed. (probably cos it was only 1 second long) |
| 17:06:07 | Twiun | Hehe |
| 17:06:23 | surge | but a miracle nonetheless, because thats the 1st time its ever tried to play the video |
| 17:06:34 | Twiun | Strange |
| 17:08:16 | surge | anyone keep a site of technical information about the zaurus? i want to put this info ive discovered up |
| 17:08:40 | Twiun | only place I know is Bill's faq |
| 17:09:07 | surge | MOVIE PLAYER REQUIRES AN MPEG-PROGRAM STREAM ENCAPSULATING MPEG1 VIDEO AND MPEG3 LAYER2 AUDIO!!! |
| 17:09:26 | Twiun | Ooooo |
| 17:10:11 | surge | how hard is it for trolltech to put something like that on their site, for f***s sake. |
| 17:10:24 | surge | 1 sentence, its not gonna kill them |
| 17:11:14 | Twiun | I'm sure they're afraid it could ;-) |
| 17:11:16 | CloudChaser | well umm |
| 17:11:34 | CloudChaser | not everyone would understand it? |
| 17:11:53 | surge | yeh ill just go reverse engineer their entire qtopia environment... brb |
| 17:11:54 | Twiun | recites the littany against fear from the Bene Gesserit... |
| 17:12:52 | Twiun | recites "I will not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." |
| 17:13:19 | Twiun | Now we just need to get TrollTech to use that as a mantra every morning... |
| 17:13:25 | Twiun | grins |
| 17:19:11 | surge | i had to compile 95M of source to get this to work. bah! |
| 17:24:34 | Twiun | Woah... that's a bit much |
| 17:24:54 | surge | ah great and it still doesnt work |
| 17:26:57 | whardier | rarw |
| 17:34:47 | occ2 | hey |
| 17:34:57 | occ2 | anyone here know anything about compactflash cards? |
| 17:35:17 | whardier | nobody here but us internet gnomes |
| 17:35:34 | occ2 | heh |
| 17:36:17 | surge | i know what they look like |
| 17:36:28 | occ2 | never mind, i guess mine's working |
| 17:36:33 | whardier | :P |
| 17:36:45 | occ2 | i just bought a generic flash card, and was wondering whether i needed to do anything special to it |
| 17:38:03 | CloudChaser | mine worked fine without any special thing to it |
| 17:40:30 | occ2 | yeah, mine's working |
| 17:54:20 | surge | argh, i need more cpus |
| 17:54:25 | surge | or faster ones |
| 17:55:38 | surge | or both :) |
| 18:00:27 | kergoth | finally have internet connectivity at my new house |
| 18:00:27 | kergoth | re |
| 18:01:41 | whardier | woota! |
| 18:01:57 | whardier | I am gonna start a new company I think |
| 18:02:06 | whardier | where cable people get wireless connections to eachother |
| 18:02:21 | whardier | then we bond the internet connectivity together at a high speed service area in their town |
| 18:02:37 | whardier | its sorta against the contract |
| 18:02:38 | whardier | but who cares |
| 18:05:46 | occ2 | yeah, really |
| 18:06:04 | occ2 | well, any "reselling" would be |
| 18:06:10 | occ2 | but as long as they don't find out, heh |
| 18:07:11 | whardier | except I would have to own or lease a large part of the bonding company that takes all those connections and merges them together |
| 18:24:07 | kaygee | I asked this last night, but nobody knew so I'm gonna pose it again. Has anyone had troubles with their SD card being remounted read-only automatically after initially mounting read-write? |
| 18:27:35 | kaygee | no one? shit. well, I guess it's not gonna be easy to fix then. |
| 18:33:48 | comfrey | Hey Gang! |
| 18:34:22 | comfrey | does anyone know of an ac adaptor for the z that does not cost $50? |
| 18:38:20 | comfrey | www.test.com |
| 20:39:12 | whardier | does the money dance |
| 20:42:49 | darienm | sell something? |
| 20:43:00 | darienm | or is that like a rain dance? |
| 20:44:09 | [George] | darienm: lol |
| 20:52:35 | Twiun | yawns |
| 21:07:15 | gandumia | this looks like a job for me! |
| 21:14:21 | neurosys | are there any other good zaurus fourms besides zaurusaone.com? |
| 21:14:56 | darienm | define good... |
| 21:15:04 | darienm | zaurus.loveslinux.com/org? |
| 21:15:05 | neurosys | heh active? :) |
| 21:15:48 | darienm | somewhat |
| 21:15:51 | neurosys | zaurus.loveslinux.com isnt exactly active :) |
| 21:17:43 | killefiz | we need a usenet newsgroup |
| 21:17:52 | killefiz | alt.comp.handheld.zaurus |
| 21:17:55 | killefiz | or sth. |
| 21:18:02 | Rince | hiho killefiz |
| 21:18:10 | Rince | de.comp.handheld.zaurus ? |
| 21:18:19 | neurosys | how would we go about getting a usenet forum? |
| 21:18:31 | killefiz | Rince: sure, but alt.* is more important |
| 21:19:04 | killefiz | neurosys: I have no idea how that works in alt.* |
| 21:20:06 | neurosys | hey kille. im gonna get neurosys.com up sooner or later. can i mirror your files? |
| 21:20:35 | Rince | killefiz: huh>? Not in Germany, on the contrary |
| 21:20:47 | killefiz | neurosys: sure |
| 21:20:50 | neurosys | :) |
| 21:20:56 | bill2or3 | is there a 'best' model of cf 802.11 card? |
| 21:21:19 | neurosys | i hear the socket works very well .. but has kismet problems |
| 21:21:48 | bill2or3 | problems with the socket model, or problems in general? |
| 21:21:58 | killefiz | i have a linksys - works very good but it blocks the stylus slightly |
| 21:22:11 | bill2or3 | hm |
| 21:22:27 | bill2or3 | I usually just use a closed ballpoint pen for a stylus anyway |
| 21:22:56 | neurosys | the socket is supposedly a great card with teh zaurus. except it doesnt work correctly with kismet (a wLAN sniffer) |
| 21:23:17 | bill2or3 | I'd certainly want that to work.. |
| 21:23:22 | neurosys | heh |
| 21:23:37 | neurosys | the SMC works well from what ive heard., |
| 21:23:46 | bill2or3 | do you know about what they cost? |
| 21:23:54 | neurosys | so does the buffalo. japan based wLAN CF |
| 21:24:44 | neurosys | not really. |
| 21:25:07 | neurosys | i bought a socket bluetooth cf for 119 off ebay. :) |
| 21:25:18 | neurosys | so im sure its not more expensive than that |
| 21:25:33 | bill2or3 | woah |
| 21:25:46 | bill2or3 | buy.com has the Z for $4.18 |
| 21:26:03 | neurosys | 418.00 you mean? :) |
| 21:26:15 | jmhodges | hm. anyone know a feed with an ogg player? |
| 21:26:24 | neurosys | opie? |
| 21:26:30 | bill2or3 | err, yeah, $418.00 |
| 21:27:28 | neurosys | really? cool |
| 21:27:43 | neurosys | i still havent bought a zaurus. i suck! :-P |
| 21:27:53 | bill2or3 | me either. |
| 21:28:12 | bill2or3 | staples.com has a %10 pricematch, so you might be able to get them down to like $411.00. |
| 21:28:28 | bill2or3 | it looks like the wireless cards are all right around $100 |
| 21:28:36 | neurosys | sounds right |
| 21:35:09 | neurosys | anyone played with taht opie BT frontend? |
| 22:05:11 | Titan818 | anyone here? |
| 22:09:14 | ljp | yes |
| 22:09:17 | ljp | heh |
| 22:13:00 | bill2or3 | sorta |
| 22:19:23 | whardier | the woof of my mouwf is burnt |
| 22:27:38 | ljp | funny that that would effect the way you type |
| 22:28:09 | bill2or3 | maybe he uses his tounge |
| 22:29:33 | ljp | got my kernel compile down to 6:08 |
| 22:30:12 | whardier | right on |
| 22:30:15 | whardier | thats a hell of a lot faster |
| 22:30:22 | ljp | its all in the scheduler |
| 22:30:54 | whardier | yawns |
| 22:31:06 | ljp | gak |
| 22:31:12 | whardier | ? |
| 22:31:17 | whardier | did not gak |
| 22:31:43 | ljp | personal edition's scheduler is limited to 3 connections |
| 22:31:58 | ljp | booo!! boooo! I say |
| 22:32:02 | whardier | haha |
| 22:32:10 | whardier | that sounds might pooty |
| 22:32:15 | whardier | mighty pooty |
| 22:32:24 | whardier | you should try running openMosix |
| 22:32:34 | whardier | you never know |
| 22:32:37 | whardier | YOU MIGHT LIKE IT! |
| 22:32:59 | ljp | sounds scarey |
| 22:33:04 | whardier | its enjoyable |
| 22:33:13 | whardier | I liked watching povray render under PVM |
| 22:33:35 | ljp | tb needs somekind of security/encryption IMHO |
| 22:33:44 | whardier | use ssh |
| 22:33:50 | whardier | with port forwarding |
| 22:34:19 | whardier | if that does not work |
| 22:34:21 | whardier | use vtun |
| 22:34:34 | whardier | I will even make a happy little config file for you |
| 22:34:40 | ljp | is a musician, who thinks a port is something you sail into or away from |
| 22:34:40 | whardier | encryption + compression! |
| 22:34:56 | whardier | kicks seagull boy |
| 22:35:14 | whardier | yahoo |
| 22:35:20 | whardier | I get to go set up a wireless lan tonight |
| 22:35:25 | whardier | phun |
| 22:35:38 | ljp | only way I'd need encrypt, is if I accessed a public network |
| 22:35:48 | whardier | hehe |
| 22:35:54 | ljp | a lan party, eh? |
| 22:35:55 | whardier | well if you wan't to test something out |
| 22:36:00 | whardier | and have me as part of your teambuilder |
| 22:36:01 | whardier | just ask |
| 22:36:06 | whardier | we will set up a vtun |
| 22:36:20 | whardier | take about 5 minutes |
| 22:36:26 | ljp | take me 5 hours |
| 22:36:30 | whardier | unless I need to do something teambuilderish on my side |
| 22:36:34 | whardier | no no |
| 22:36:38 | whardier | I would just give you the config |
| 22:36:44 | whardier | then you run the program |
| 22:36:47 | whardier | its simple shit |
| 22:37:04 | ljp | satellites just need to install teambuilder, and run tbdaemon |
| 22:37:11 | ljp | and have gcc |
| 22:37:22 | whardier | a current gcc I presume? |
| 22:37:27 | whardier | or the identical version? |
| 22:37:27 | ljp | and make |
| 22:37:36 | ljp | says it can use different versions |
| 22:37:40 | whardier | right on |
| 22:37:45 | whardier | maybe later tonight I will do that with you |
| 22:37:45 | whardier | haha |
| 22:38:04 | whardier | has to go to the fort collins airport now |
| 22:38:21 | ljp | well.. I may have to switch the 900 again to keep up with that |
| 22:38:30 | bill2or3 | foo |
| 22:38:48 | whardier | ljp heh. well I could be a very usefull node :P |
| 22:39:04 | whardier | who knows.. I wanna know how well it works over the "cloud" |
| 22:39:25 | whardier | I can enable compression enough to handle most of the shit fast enough.. its all text bits and binary chunks.. it should go fast |
| 22:39:34 | ljp | heh ya good luck not having uninvited guests |
| 22:39:49 | ljp | its got compression built in |
| 22:39:54 | whardier | yeah |
| 22:39:58 | whardier | uninvited guests? |
| 22:40:01 | ljp | heh |
| 22:40:02 | whardier | nobody can get in |
| 22:40:09 | whardier | builds firewalls.. remember.. |
| 22:40:51 | whardier | ah well.. |
| 22:41:01 | whardier | my machine I am on is wide open at the moment |
| 22:41:13 | whardier | has been storing hack attempts |
| 22:41:20 | ljp | scheduler should be the fastest machine |
| 22:41:35 | whardier | a dual 933 with 1.5 gigs of ram might suffice |
| 22:42:31 | whardier | anyhoot |
| 22:42:36 | whardier | hussles and bussles out the door |
| 22:44:36 | ljp | hate when kgnu goes off air on saturdays |
| 22:45:49 | treke|home | KGNU? all Stallman all the time? |
| 22:47:26 | ljp | hah |
| 22:47:35 | bill2or3 | hrm |
| 22:47:54 | ljp | http://www.kgnu.org |
| 23:04:36 | NetAmp | Any experts on apache config? (ok I shouldn't be asking this here but I am :P) |
| 23:08:44 | bill2or3 | I am an amateur |
| 23:08:51 | NetAmp | me2 :S |
| 23:09:50 | NetAmp | I was wondering how to redirect www.domain.com/DIR to a script (like test.php?DIR) instead of to the directory /DIR |
| 23:10:03 | wyvern | [15:52:18] <treke|home> KGNU? all Stallman all the time? |
| 23:10:05 | wyvern | HAHHAHA |
| 23:10:25 | NetAmp | oh well I guess the httpd.conf has to be changed... |
| 23:12:16 | Titan818 | hi, i was at the killefiz site and i saw "turn zaurus into flashlight" how does that work and what do i do with those files? |
| 23:12:45 | NetAmp | flashlight? hah ;) |
| 23:12:52 | NetAmp | *lol* |
| 23:13:15 | bill2or3 | you could use mod_rewrite, or you could put in an index file that does the redirection. |
| 23:13:15 | Titan818 | thats what i thought to |
| 23:13:56 | bill2or3 | the index file would be easier. |
| 23:14:11 | Titan818 | ok |
| 23:14:42 | NetAmp | bill2or3: hm yeah .htaccess probably... |
| 23:15:04 | bill2or3 | or just in the index.html file.. |
| 23:16:23 | bill2or3 | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php <-- look for header("Location: http://www.example.com/") |
| 23:17:00 | NetAmp | yeah but that wouldn't work for 'just any dir' you see |
| 23:17:14 | NetAmp | it would only work if you create the folder |
| 23:17:19 | NetAmp | and put the index in it |
| 23:17:38 | bill2or3 | oh, gotcha |
| 23:17:45 | bill2or3 | you want to do it site-wide? |
| 23:17:51 | NetAmp | yeah :) |
| 23:18:21 | bill2or3 | DirectoryIndex listinfo index.php index.html |
| 23:18:28 | bill2or3 | ^^ in httpd.conf |
| 23:18:30 | NetAmp | but preferably without having my host changing the config file ;) |
| 23:18:39 | bill2or3 | ah |
| 23:18:44 | bill2or3 | so many details! |
| 23:19:16 | NetAmp | hah yeah well I'll sort it out, thanx anyway.. |
| 23:19:34 | NetAmp | Titan818: is that ZaurusZone link working for you? |
| 23:19:40 | NetAmp | Titan818: on the 'flashlight' page |
| 23:20:25 | Titan818 | not last time I checked |
| 23:21:53 | Titan818 | nope |
| 23:22:33 | Titan818 | is it in some other place now? (i went from killefiz) |
| 23:24:44 | NetAmp | not that I know of... |
| 23:24:56 | NetAmp | pretty weird |
| 23:25:10 | NetAmp | a very late "april fools" joke maybe ;) |
| 23:26:53 | Titan818 | we'll have to go with that |
| 23:27:25 | Titan818 | I did manage to get a zip file a while back |
| 23:28:20 | Titan818 | but it had files that Zaurus would not be able to read. Unless there's some way i dont know about |
| 23:30:25 | NetAmp | hm... strange |
| 23:30:45 | NetAmp | bbl |
| 23:39:21 | whardier | hrh |
| 23:39:23 | whardier | err |
| 23:39:24 | whardier | heh |
| 23:42:29 | whardier | sittin at the airport |
| 23:42:39 | whardier | blah blah blah blah blah |
| 23:42:44 | whardier | PHEWWT! |
| 23:42:46 | whardier | this rules |
| 23:42:54 | whardier | the building I am in is owned by a friend |
| 23:43:02 | whardier | he installed a soda fountain |
| 23:43:05 | whardier | and fat tire on tap |
| 23:43:14 | whardier | L) |
| 23:43:16 | whardier | err |
| 23:43:18 | whardier | :) |
| 23:43:25 | whardier | gorges himself on cherry coke |
| 23:47:18 | ljp | crap: "Teambuilder will choose a daemon that has a compiler with the same name as your compiler." |
| 23:48:29 | ljp | wonder if that means what I think |
| 23:55:54 | whardier | sex? |