| 00:19:33 | Neo|Work | is away: home |
| 01:28:24 | FuC0r | anybody know where i can find good games and apps for zaurus 5500? |
| 01:28:48 | treke_ | handango.com |
| 01:29:06 | treke_ | go to eongames.com for some kick ass games (strategic assault rocks) |
| 01:29:23 | FuC0r | cool |
| 01:29:25 | FuC0r | :) |
| 01:29:32 | FuC0r | i just got my 5500 it rocks |
| 01:29:51 | FuC0r | they have apops too? |
| 01:29:53 | FuC0r | apps |
| 01:30:10 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/ |
| 01:30:11 | treke_ | handango has aps. eongames just does games |
| 01:30:39 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | http://zaurus.loveslinux.com/ |
| 01:31:23 | FuC0r | aahhh man i dont want to PAY for any of them hehehe |
| 02:10:30 | whardier | I sooooooo need a beer or ten |
| 02:20:14 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | and a lai? |
| 02:26:10 | whardier | whats with the nick |
| 02:26:24 | whardier | emachines make ghz machines now.. hehe |
| 02:26:33 | whardier | nice quick dirty smart ass firewalls |
| 02:26:38 | whardier | I have 3 tulip cards in this one |
| 02:26:59 | whardier | its routing 5 class C's at the moment + a compressed tunnel |
| 02:31:01 | surge | hmm, how do you display a menu in java on the zaurus? |
| 02:31:30 | surge | ive got the VK_F11 event, but i dont know what to do to display the menu |
| 02:32:54 | | MSpin: i'm not following you... |
| 02:32:54 | MSpin | ibot oz |
| 02:33:00 | | well, openzaurus is a Community version of the operating environment for the Sharp Zaurus SL-5x00[d] PDA. See http://openzaurus.sf.net/. or http://openzaurus.sf.net/feeds/3.0/ |
| 02:33:00 | MSpin | ibot openzaurus |
| 02:34:11 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | bout the only thing I know about java is 1) how to brew it, and 2) how to drink it |
| 02:34:36 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | is watching a Playboy special on tv |
| 02:35:59 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | too bad they're censoring the good parts |
| 02:40:16 | surge | playboy! what good parts? |
| 02:44:31 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | THE good parts.. on the Fox channel |
| 02:47:11 | flCS | is there a usb cable yet, that can be used without the cradle? |
| 02:53:36 | flCS | anyone here? |
| 02:59:23 | MEGASTeP | is away: I'm away, dammit |
| 03:05:11 | whardier | whaks MEGASTeP with a MEGAPixeL! |
| 03:59:49 | whardier | MasterYoda |
| 03:59:58 | whardier | think you could get me the hook up one of these days soon with your friends? |
| 04:00:18 | whardier | I never thought I would ask yoda for a pathway to happyness |
| 04:02:06 | Com[Plex] | HMM |
| 04:04:16 | Com[Plex] | my dsl sucsk |
| 04:04:18 | Com[Plex] | sucsk |
| 04:04:21 | Com[Plex] | sucks |
| 04:09:46 | codemnky | yo whardier |
| 04:10:01 | | whardier was last seen on #zaurus 9 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: I never thought I would ask yoda for a pathway to happyness [Sat May 11 05:00:18 2002] |
| 04:10:01 | codemnky | ibot seen whardier |
| 04:10:20 | codemnky | ha |
| 04:11:09 | whardier | shakras codemnky |
| 04:11:33 | codemnky | what's up |
| 04:11:36 | whardier | in Hawaii |
| 04:11:47 | codemnky | bastard |
| 04:11:53 | whardier | in the industrial area |
| 04:11:53 | codemnky | :P |
| 04:11:58 | whardier | its not the hippist |
| 04:12:04 | codemnky | awww |
| 04:12:05 | whardier | the cutest woman I have seen here so far was at the bank |
| 04:12:09 | whardier | she wanted to go do something |
| 04:12:14 | whardier | I don't have my own damn car here :O |
| 04:12:20 | codemnky | heh |
| 04:12:29 | codemnky | that's almost torcher |
| 04:12:38 | whardier | looking for JasonNJ to hook me up with bisexual femininites! |
| 04:12:53 | whardier | going to chili's for a beer soon |
| 04:12:53 | whardier | haha |
| 04:12:57 | whardier | last time we were there |
| 04:13:01 | whardier | this chick was so drunk |
| 04:13:13 | codemnky | just the way i like'm |
| 04:13:16 | whardier | that she didn't bother twisting in her chair to stare me down so I would give her a cigarette |
| 04:13:21 | whardier | she would just rotate her head |
| 04:13:22 | whardier | and stare |
| 04:13:24 | codemnky | heh |
| 04:13:25 | whardier | kinda freaked me out |
| 04:13:53 | whardier | my hunger is about to connection time out as well |
| 04:13:59 | codemnky | i've been doing the freelance contracting gig |
| 04:14:08 | whardier | maybe my boss will ditch me in Waikiki this weekend |
| 04:14:09 | codemnky | since mycity went under |
| 04:14:13 | whardier | doh |
| 04:14:20 | whardier | whatcha been up too |
| 04:14:28 | whardier | get me some wireless gigs so we can meet up. |
| 04:14:37 | whardier | even simple shit pays the bills |
| 04:14:38 | codemnky | mostly linux, perl, apache, mysql, postgresql type projects |
| 04:14:50 | kergoth`zzz | re |
| 04:14:51 | codemnky | sysadmin crap |
| 04:14:56 | whardier | kergoth |
| 04:15:08 | kergoth | whardier |
| 04:15:10 | whardier | same to you.. get me wireless gigs so I can come meet you too |
| 04:15:19 | codemnky | looks like mycity will be bought out of bankrupctcy |
| 04:15:25 | whardier | hahaha |
| 04:15:27 | kergoth | codemnky: ah nice |
| 04:15:28 | whardier | by whom? |
| 04:15:33 | codemnky | and need help to run it (mahhaha |
| 04:15:36 | whardier | they have already lost all reputation |
| 04:15:45 | codemnky | it will be used for something else |
| 04:15:48 | whardier | its like buying something that was a hot shit.. as a warmed over turd. |
| 04:15:51 | codemnky | not under the mycity name |
| 04:16:00 | codemnky | that's |
| 04:16:01 | codemnky | thanks |
| 04:16:05 | codemnky | you bastard |
| 04:16:09 | codemnky | :P |
| 04:16:11 | whardier | what? |
| 04:16:13 | whardier | no no |
| 04:16:14 | codemnky | joke |
| 04:16:15 | whardier | you were a hot shit! |
| 04:16:32 | codemnky | you know the difference between shit in the grass and shit on a pedestal |
| 04:16:35 | whardier | but buying something that just went thru the sewage system.. is a bad idea IMHO |
| 04:16:35 | whardier | heh |
| 04:16:48 | whardier | whats the diff? |
| 04:16:57 | codemnky | they are buying the code, that's it |
| 04:17:00 | codemnky | the diff is |
| 04:17:13 | codemnky | someone will stop to look at the shit on the pedestal |
| 04:18:06 | whardier | what about the grass shit? |
| 04:18:11 | whardier | will somebody step on it? |
| 04:18:28 | whardier | I don't get it |
| 04:18:30 | whardier | dear god help me |
| 04:18:31 | codemnky | there are actually about 10 groups who would pay about $25k setup and $5k a month for mycity services |
| 04:18:33 | whardier | I am so dumb |
| 04:18:40 | codemnky | it's currently making about $45k a month |
| 04:18:43 | whardier | oh right on |
| 04:18:44 | whardier | hehe |
| 04:19:02 | whardier | I just talked to a guy that made $120,000 today |
| 04:19:04 | codemnky | i'm the only run running it currently |
| 04:19:07 | whardier | he does that a lot |
| 04:19:13 | codemnky | damn nice |
| 04:19:18 | whardier | he owns shit |
| 04:19:20 | whardier | lots of shit |
| 04:19:24 | whardier | not pedastal shit either |
| 04:19:31 | whardier | like.. the athos shit. |
| 04:19:37 | whardier | the zeus shit |
| 04:19:47 | whardier | concocted from the devine ambrosia. |
| 04:19:55 | kergoth | man you need a spellchecker or something |
| 04:19:57 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:19:59 | whardier | that I do |
| 04:20:06 | whardier | cuntcocktit |
| 04:21:49 | codemnky | where is everyone |
| 04:21:55 | whardier | avoiding my spelling |
| 04:22:03 | kergoth | with good reason |
| 04:22:03 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:22:16 | whardier | I don't wanna fuck somebody up with it.. |
| 04:22:17 | kergoth | I should package up that prism2 driver for use on the sharp rom one of these days |
| 04:22:26 | whardier | you know how that one goes. |
| 04:22:35 | kergoth | yawns |
| 04:23:42 | codemnky | so kergoth |
| 04:23:54 | codemnky | besides fooling with the z what do you do? |
| 04:24:03 | kergoth | work in tech support |
| 04:24:09 | kergoth | party |
| 04:24:11 | codemnky | what kind of clients? |
| 04:24:13 | kergoth | music |
| 04:24:14 | kergoth | etc |
| 04:24:19 | codemnky | customers |
| 04:24:25 | codemnky | you support |
| 04:24:25 | kergoth | sysadmin contract work.. coding contract work.. |
| 04:24:36 | kergoth | ah.. generally admins trying to make Digi products work |
| 04:24:56 | codemnky | what is a project of Digi |
| 04:24:59 | kergoth | stupid motherfuckers makin twice what i do who dont know how to use the 'cat' command in their unix box |
| 04:25:00 | codemnky | porduct |
| 04:25:10 | codemnky | you kidding |
| 04:25:13 | codemnky | you're |
| 04:25:24 | codemnky | man that sucks, i know the feeling all to well |
| 04:25:29 | kergoth | codemnky: they make products in a market thats going away.. serial ports. boards. network attached. console management products. that sort of thing |
| 04:25:35 | kergoth | nope, not kidding.. heh.. sick eh |
| 04:25:37 | kergoth | ah well |
| 04:25:39 | kergoth | brb |
| 04:33:52 | codemnky | bye |
| 06:49:49 | W|GGL|T | is away: I'm busy smoking a blunt or sleeping or something |
| 07:34:48 | Twiun | surge:ping |
| 11:17:59 | surge | Twiun: pong |
| 11:18:15 | Twiun | Still looking for the menu stuff in java? |
| 13:10:48 | surge | Twiun: yep |
| 13:11:01 | surge | Twiun: do you have some info? |
| 13:16:12 | surge | Twiun: paste url or something if so... im too busy coding to notice you quickly :) |
| 13:19:08 | Twiun | Bah ;-) |
| 13:19:13 | Twiun | Same here |
| 13:19:19 | surge | ah ha! |
| 13:19:22 | surge | got you! |
| 13:19:31 | Twiun | looking at the javadoc now ;-) |
| 13:19:45 | surge | why did you ask about the menus? |
| 13:20:08 | Twiun | I log everything on this channel whilst I'm asleep... and scan it afterwards ;-) |
| 13:20:17 | Twiun | xchat highlights anything java for me |
| 13:20:27 | surge | oh |
| 13:20:38 | Twiun | http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/api/java/awt/Frame.html#setMenuBar(java.awt.MenuBar) |
| 13:20:45 | Twiun | 1.4 doc... but valid for 1.1 |
| 13:20:56 | surge | ah |
| 13:21:02 | surge | im using 1.4 |
| 13:21:28 | Twiun | then just create a MenuBar in the standard way, and use that method to have it show up |
| 13:30:15 | mark | can someone confirm that the officail zaurus ROM runs the standard gnu wget? |
| 13:30:37 | Twiun | errr.... it has *a* wget... not sure which one though |
| 13:30:53 | Twiun | hasn't got his Z handy |
| 13:31:45 | mark | Twiun: yeh, I know it has one, but I'm writting an app that uses QProcess to wget, so I need to be sure it has the options i am using |
| 13:32:01 | Twiun | gotcha |
| 13:36:26 | mark | gah I hate GUI work :( |
| 13:36:41 | Twiun | Hehe |
| 13:36:56 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | I hate work |
| 13:37:03 | mark | LOL |
| 13:37:20 | mark | i've written a nice class that does the dirty work, but i can't be fished to write the GUI to it. grr :) |
| 13:37:38 | mark | ljp_hatesQWestPh: QWestPh? |
| 13:38:32 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | heh god n.. I don't work for that POS company |
| 13:39:05 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | I'd kill myself if I wrked for QWest |
| 13:39:29 | mark | is confused |
| 13:41:02 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | hehehe |
| 13:41:21 | zecke|FatKater | ljp_hatesQWestPh: what is QWestPh for an European? |
| 13:41:22 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | QWest farked me |
| 13:41:35 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | Qwest Phone Company |
| 13:42:06 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | so I have no dsl for 2 weeks, while they set up my 'new' account I've had for 5 years |
| 13:42:11 | mark | oh right.... |
| 13:42:27 | mark | sounds like a QT class ;) |
| 13:42:32 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | I tried to dl mozilla... too big.. |
| 13:42:52 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | heh.. ya its the Qt class that causes segfaults |
| 13:43:17 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | #include <qwest.h> for adding segfaults |
| 13:43:23 | mark | hehe |
| 13:45:29 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | somehow, sometimes, it includes itself |
| 13:48:09 | surge | crap |
| 13:50:45 | Twiun | surge: whats up? |
| 13:51:59 | surge | got disconnected |
| 13:52:12 | Twiun | ahh, I though ti was something else |
| 13:52:14 | surge | Twiun: whats the last thing you saw me say? |
| 13:52:23 | surge | well it is also... :) |
| 13:52:27 | Twiun | <surge> im using 1.4 |
| 13:52:32 | surge | hmm |
| 13:52:52 | surge | <surge> and, um, i dont see anything there to pop up the menu |
| 13:52:52 | surge | <surge> setMenuBar just adds it to the frame. i have already done that. i want to pop up one of the menus |
| 13:53:35 | Twiun | surge: hang on... you mean you want to use a popup menu? Or have a menu like, say the TextEditor on the Z? |
| 13:54:07 | surge | uhm, let me check that editor... |
| 13:54:28 | surge | yeh kinda |
| 13:54:42 | Twiun | which? |
| 13:54:45 | surge | the problem is just that pressing the menu button pops up the QT menu and not mine |
| 13:55:02 | Twiun | Ahhh, that's another problem |
| 13:55:04 | surge | i want it to pop up the applications like the text editor does |
| 13:55:34 | Twiun | You man need to have some kind of key listener on the frame |
| 13:55:45 | Twiun | /you man/you may |
| 13:55:49 | surge | yeah i have that already |
| 13:55:55 | Twiun | No effect? |
| 13:55:59 | surge | but what do i do to make the menu pop up?! |
| 13:56:00 | surge | :) |
| 13:56:10 | surge | well i dont know what to do with it |
| 13:56:13 | Twiun | Ahhh... tried MenuBar.show() ? |
| 13:56:22 | surge | i dont see any methods to pop it up |
| 13:56:26 | surge | oh... wait... |
| 13:56:45 | surge | (think i already tried that, but compiler couldnt find the method)... |
| 13:56:49 | Twiun | erm... doh, no show method ;-) |
| 13:56:58 | Twiun | let me have another look at the docs |
| 13:58:31 | surge | heh, good luck, ive already been all through everything i can think of |
| 13:58:58 | Twiun | How about finding out what event a stylus tap generates (on the menu) |
| 13:59:09 | Twiun | and using dispatch(AWTEvent) to fake it? |
| 13:59:28 | Twiun | erm... dispatchEvent() even |
| 13:59:44 | Twiun | This programing under java 1.1 sucks AND blows |
| 13:59:47 | surge | hmm |
| 13:59:48 | Twiun | give me Java2 anytime |
| 13:59:54 | surge | good idea |
| 14:00:19 | surge | thatll take ages for me to figure out though... you dont happen to have some example code i can modify? |
| 14:00:36 | Twiun | Hah! You're assuming I actually got that far before I got bored |
| 14:00:42 | surge | heh |
| 14:00:48 | surge | ok, point taken |
| 14:01:31 | surge | hey, feel like testing my calculator btw? |
| 14:01:38 | Twiun | Sure |
| 14:01:42 | surge | (which is what all this is for) |
| 14:02:01 | Twiun | Hehe... what about this method? http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/api/java/awt/MenuItem.html#setShortcut(java.awt.MenuShortcut) |
| 14:02:04 | Twiun | tried it? |
| 14:02:27 | surge | looking... |
| 14:02:57 | surge | ftp://sludge.homeip.net/pub/Zcalc.jar |
| 14:03:05 | surge | run java -cp Zcalc.jar Zcalc |
| 14:03:35 | Twiun | sluggish server? |
| 14:03:45 | surge | dsl |
| 14:03:57 | Twiun | hmmm, maybe not your problem... my dns too ages to resolve that |
| 14:04:05 | Twiun | /too/took/ |
| 14:04:11 | surge | yeh its dynamic |
| 14:05:05 | surge | uhm, i think that shortcut thing will actually run the shortcut as well |
| 14:05:16 | surge | although admittedly i havent tried it |
| 14:05:25 | Twiun | that's ok, neither have I ;-) |
| 14:06:08 | Twiun | Yikes! |
| 14:06:15 | surge | Twiun: hmm, actually would you rather an ipk? |
| 14:06:18 | Twiun | loadsa buttons ;-) |
| 14:06:21 | surge | what? |
| 14:06:24 | surge | heh yeah |
| 14:06:31 | Twiun | no worries, I have it running on the Z already |
| 14:06:40 | surge | i was so annoyed with the standard calculator, i went overboard |
| 14:06:41 | Twiun | but it takes a good second to show all those buttons |
| 14:06:56 | surge | yeh i know... still to do optimizing |
| 14:06:56 | Twiun | it's a little too wide |
| 14:07:00 | surge | hmm |
| 14:07:13 | surge | whats the correct way to size the frame? |
| 14:07:20 | mark | surge: what does ur calc do? i cant run it as i'm on OZ |
| 14:07:23 | surge | i used setSize(230,280) |
| 14:07:32 | Twiun | surge that's the problem |
| 14:07:35 | surge | mark: dont you have java? |
| 14:07:37 | Twiun | it's the values |
| 14:07:48 | Twiun | try using 276 |
| 14:07:49 | surge | Twiun: you just have to guess? |
| 14:07:55 | mark | surge: no |
| 14:07:59 | Twiun | nah... think about it... window decorations |
| 14:08:18 | Twiun | for some reason it doesn't factor them into the setSize method |
| 14:08:30 | Twiun | so you have to take the 4 pixels yourself |
| 14:08:31 | surge | Twiun: i also used getToolkit().dimenstions() or something, but then it wouldnt stop when i pressed cancel |
| 14:09:01 | Twiun | the problem with the toolkit methods is that they ignore the taskbar |
| 14:09:14 | surge | oh yeah, that was it |
| 14:09:24 | surge | ok, so take 4 pixels off width huh... |
| 14:09:54 | surge | done |
| 14:10:19 | Twiun | ready for download? |
| 14:10:40 | surge | new ipk in same place : java-zcalc*.ipk |
| 14:10:42 | surge | yep |
| 14:10:53 | Twiun | arg... just the jar please ;-) |
| 14:11:03 | Twiun | can't be bothered with all this restarting qpe all the time |
| 14:11:21 | surge | heh, ok... |
| 14:11:54 | surge | done |
| 14:12:46 | Twiun | hmmm... ok... 277 ;-) |
| 14:12:55 | surge | mark: well, im thinking about porting it to qt because its really slow, and im not sure i can get it much faster, but its an advanced scientific calculator designed to replace the standard crap one that sharp distributed |
| 14:12:58 | Twiun | but it's cool otherwise |
| 14:12:59 | surge | heh |
| 14:13:12 | mark | surge: neato |
| 14:13:14 | surge | 277? |
| 14:13:16 | surge | huh? |
| 14:13:20 | mark | surge: have you seen neoCal though? |
| 14:13:22 | surge | that was 236 |
| 14:13:27 | surge | mark: yeh but its not free |
| 14:13:31 | surge | mark: this is gpl |
| 14:13:32 | Twiun | erm... 237 even |
| 14:13:37 | mark | surge: good ;) |
| 14:13:37 | surge | Twiun: ok |
| 14:14:10 | Twiun | surge: the multiplication button could do with being '*' instead of 'X' |
| 14:14:32 | surge | Twiun: i tried that. its *really* small then |
| 14:14:36 | surge | looks like a . |
| 14:14:44 | Twiun | ok |
| 14:14:59 | surge | the fonts a bit funny i guess |
| 14:15:06 | surge | 237 .jar ready |
| 14:16:23 | Twiun | cool |
| 14:17:00 | surge | Twiun: btw, theres a bug where if you press the home button, it doesnt go into background. if you have a clue how to fix, let me know |
| 14:17:13 | mark | can i see a screeny? |
| 14:17:16 | Twiun | will do... 237 is perfect |
| 14:17:25 | surge | ok thanks |
| 14:17:42 | Twiun | try adding 2px to the height |
| 14:17:52 | Twiun | might get rid of the lower line decoration |
| 14:18:11 | Twiun | hmmm, centered about box... |
| 14:18:25 | Twiun | weird sstuff happens to the buttons when I change views |
| 14:18:39 | Twiun | from scientific<->basic |
| 14:18:49 | Twiun | actually... |
| 14:18:58 | Twiun | from basic->to any other and back |
| 14:19:04 | Twiun | no problem with sci<->integer |
| 14:19:07 | surge | eh? |
| 14:19:17 | surge | oh you mean all the buttons redraw? |
| 14:19:25 | Twiun | yeah, it's freaky ;-) |
| 14:19:46 | surge | heh, yeh i had to override GridBagLayout cos it sucked |
| 14:19:52 | surge | another one for optimization |
| 14:19:58 | Twiun | try deferring the relayout until you've added all the components ;-) |
| 14:20:02 | surge | as long as it works out in the end |
| 14:20:15 | Twiun | and good news... home key sends it to the background |
| 14:20:23 | surge | yeh i did, it still invalidates itself after every panel update |
| 14:20:36 | surge | but ill leave that for optimization later |
| 14:20:47 | surge | next task is these menus... |
| 14:23:13 | surge | oh home key works?! when the hell did that happen?? :) |
| 14:23:26 | Twiun | Hehe, no idea... |
| 14:25:03 | surge | i love bugs that fix themselves :) |
| 14:25:10 | Twiun | always the best thing |
| 14:25:25 | mark | Twiun, surge: if you are on official Z, can you do me a big favour? |
| 14:25:32 | surge | mark: sure |
| 14:25:35 | Twiun | mark: wget, right? |
| 14:25:53 | surge | hmm, home key doesnt work here :/ |
| 14:25:59 | mark | yeh, just hit wget in embeddedkonsole and give me the first line |
| 14:26:01 | surge | you sure it work for you? |
| 14:26:17 | Twiun | Yup... let me try the ipk |
| 14:26:27 | surge | mark: uhm, a) i only have standard terminal, and b) i dont have wget |
| 14:26:31 | Twiun | mark: wget: missing URL |
| 14:26:40 | Twiun | mark: it's busyboix wget |
| 14:26:44 | Twiun | busybox even |
| 14:26:45 | mark | Twiun: FSCK |
| 14:27:03 | surge | ipk there |
| 14:27:18 | mark | Twiun: can you do wget --help and get an argument list? |
| 14:27:37 | Twiun | yeah |
| 14:27:43 | Twiun | surge: one sec ;-) |
| 14:28:02 | Twiun | mark: long, LONG list |
| 14:28:10 | surge | hmm thats weird |
| 14:28:21 | surge | running it from console allows menu to work |
| 14:28:23 | Twiun | actually... it's not busybox wget |
| 14:28:27 | mark | Twiun: hehe |
| 14:28:41 | Twiun | GNU wget 1.7, a non-interactive network retriever. |
| 14:28:41 | mark | if its not it should say 'gnu' somewhere at the top |
| 14:29:01 | mark | okay |
| 14:29:02 | mark | thank you |
| 14:29:12 | Twiun | Now your turn surge ;-) |
| 14:29:18 | surge | eh? |
| 14:29:21 | surge | for what |
| 14:29:35 | Twiun | my attention ;-) |
| 14:29:55 | surge | oh |
| 14:29:58 | surge | ok. |
| 14:30:11 | surge | whats up |
| 14:30:21 | Twiun | scrolls up... |
| 14:30:29 | Twiun | Oh, you've seen that it works from the console |
| 14:30:34 | Twiun | I'm baffled |
| 14:30:34 | surge | yep |
| 14:30:40 | surge | me too |
| 14:30:52 | Twiun | let me tinker with the ipk |
| 14:30:58 | surge | but if you want my attention, ive added it to my bug list, and ill fix it later |
| 14:31:33 | Twiun | Yeah... it's not really a high priority thing just now |
| 14:32:55 | surge | one last thing... ive added my email to the author dialog, email me if you find more bugs |
| 14:33:02 | Twiun | Ok |
| 14:33:13 | surge | get new ipk |
| 14:33:32 | surge | version 0.0.4 |
| 14:34:13 | Twiun | got it.. I'll play with it some in a bit |
| 14:34:30 | surge | great |
| 14:35:01 | surge | you get some debugging output if you run it from console, but you probably already figured that out |
| 14:35:08 | Twiun | grins |
| 14:38:52 | surge | oh heh, i got you wrong before. i thought you wanted my help. |
| 14:43:48 | Twiun | Hehe, no worries |
| 14:43:53 | surge | ah ha!! isPopupTrigger() |
| 14:45:04 | surge | ack! bththtp! grraaagh! it still doesnt say how to show the menu |
| 14:45:50 | Twiun | next thing you can try... |
| 14:46:11 | Twiun | get the source for the Menu class ;-) |
| 14:46:19 | ljp_hatesQWestPh | a popup menu? |
| 14:46:54 | surge | heh, actually thats easier than finding out the event it needs... |
| 14:47:00 | surge | already have it for the Gridbag |
| 14:47:47 | Twiun | cool... goin' afk... gotta take care of RL for a bit ;-) |
| 14:47:54 | surge | damn why didnt i think of that |
| 14:48:02 | surge | Twiun[afk]: ok thans for help |
| 15:19:08 | nasa | ping |
| 15:19:37 | mark | pong |
| 15:20:11 | nasa | Hi Mark, just seeing if anyone was out there |
| 15:32:08 | Com[ANGRY | who was it that had the broken Z? |
| 15:32:17 | ljp | kergoth |
| 15:32:32 | Com[Plex | hmm.. |
| 15:32:37 | Com[Plex | I wonder if he would sell it. |
| 15:32:51 | Com[Plex | I want it for parts, |
| 15:33:14 | Com[Plex | Ie, its battery, its plastic shell, its power cord, etc. |
| 15:34:05 | Com[Plex | I ordered some new paint, that mirage/chameleon whatever paint. - Id like to experiment with another body first. |
| 15:34:20 | ljp | hehehhe.. I dunno.. |
| 15:34:28 | Com[Plex | hmm |
| 15:34:47 | ljp | I think he might be ok with it, as long as it gets flames.. ;) |
| 15:35:57 | ljp | what would be really cool, is a metal case that replaces the plastic POS.. |
| 15:36:14 | zecke|FatKater | ljp: true |
| 15:37:49 | ljp | all the paint is wearing off mine |
| 15:38:14 | ljp | and it looks like the cheap plastic you see in plastic airplane/car models |
| 15:39:19 | nasa | ok, question for you OZ experts -- how unstable is it? Is it unusual for it to lock up often? Is it unusual for programs to work and then later lock up the Z? or could this be a hardware problem? |
| 15:40:29 | ljp | depends on what apps |
| 15:40:39 | ljp | what rom? |
| 15:41:03 | nasa | I am using OZ beta 9 |
| 15:42:55 | sitruC | should try out oz b9 |
| 15:43:22 | ljp | ohh, hmm b9 does not have a lot of extra room on / |
| 15:43:34 | zecke | nasa: why are you using OZ at all? |
| 15:43:49 | ljp | there's a b9.2, but not from sf |
| 15:47:12 | nasa | I actually like OZ, as shitty as the installer is -- it is better than the sharp one... |
| 15:48:37 | mark | nasa: if i'd written that piece of software that would be hurtful for me |
| 15:49:19 | zecke | nasa: oipkg? |
| 15:50:18 | nasa | yeah, nothing against the author (who recognizes there are many problems, and is doing a fine job) |
| 15:50:24 | sitruC | 9.2? |
| 15:50:44 | nasa | no, just beta 9 |
| 15:51:44 | nasa | I ask only because I have a sinking feeling something is up with my hardware. I had other strange problems with the 1.13 rom as well (not the same as now though) |
| 15:52:44 | ljp | hmm |
| 15:53:03 | zecke | nasa: I experience random lock ups as well |
| 15:53:23 | ljp | on the sharp rom? |
| 15:53:51 | zecke | ljp: OZ 3 8.5 locks up more ofthen than sharps |
| 15:54:05 | zecke | listening to mp3, doing network io |
| 15:54:23 | nasa | hmmm |
| 15:55:36 | ljp | if you want more room in OZ. rm -rf /usr/lib/gconv if you dont need all those |
| 15:55:55 | nasa | what is gconv? |
| 15:56:41 | ljp | a bunch of basically useless stuff no one needs.. its not on the Sharp rom at all |
| 15:57:06 | ljp | but.. if you do that.. update to the glibc on the Oz feed |
| 15:57:18 | nasa | ok |
| 15:57:44 | ljp | cause you'll see some error messages in /var/log/messages if you have it turned on |
| 15:58:49 | nasa | how do you turn on the /var/log/messages? |
| 15:59:38 | ljp | in oZ all you need to do is run syslogd and klogd |
| 16:01:24 | nasa | damn, didn't realize oz had these |
| 16:14:00 | surge | fucking hell |
| 17:13:01 | surge | anyone know what event causes a menu to popup in java? |
| 17:34:40 | W|GGL|T | is away: I'm busy smoking a blunt or sleeping or something |
| 17:52:24 | surge | gack. anyone happen to know how to convert degrees to radians and gradians? |
| 17:53:19 | gonz | surge: i am sure zuc can do this for you ;) |
| 17:55:18 | FuC0r | anybody have a working 3d shooter game for zaurus 5500 |
| 17:55:19 | FuC0r | ? |
| 17:56:49 | surge | and who/what/where is zuc |
| 17:57:05 | FuC0r | zuc? |
| 17:57:17 | gonz | FuC0r: i've seen doom running on the ipaq (and it was impressing) with intimate... i don't see a reason why this shouldn't be possible with the z. i've seen a quake.ipk for qtopia, too but never tried it and i'm sure it is slow... |
| 17:57:36 | surge | the quake ipk didnt work for me |
| 17:57:43 | gonz | zuc is a zaurus unit converter... i found it at http://killefize.de/zaurus/ (or so..) |
| 17:57:44 | surge | it killed my system too |
| 17:57:52 | gonz | whoops |
| 17:57:56 | FuC0r | gonz can you send to me ? |
| 17:58:11 | surge | gonz: know where the source is? i dont want to convert some numbers, i wanna know how to do it |
| 17:58:39 | gonz | FuCOr: http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=206 |
| 17:59:10 | gonz | has no idea |
| 18:35:27 | DocWhat | Howdy. |
| 18:36:53 | DocWhat | I have a question....does anyone network their zaurus via linux? |
| 18:43:55 | DocWhat | Soooo....... |
| 18:44:09 | DocWhat | Anyone use linux to sync with the zaurus? |
| 19:00:30 | surge | of course |
| 19:31:59 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-05-11 17:49:17 | NASA Parts Scroungers Resort To eBay For Parts | Mashed-Up Music | Design Your Very Own Microprocessor | Many Eyes, Shallow Bugs, and Spider-Man |
| 19:31:59 | NetAmp | ibot: slashdot |
| 19:37:42 | whardier | hmm |
| 19:37:46 | whardier | does OZ beta9 boot? |
| 19:37:53 | whardier | oops |
| 19:37:54 | whardier | there we go |
| 19:38:05 | whardier | its doing some quacky shit! |
| 19:41:07 | whardier | now to download shit! |
| 19:49:00 | NetAmp | it's Kwacky whardier |
| 19:49:03 | NetAmp | k w a c k y |
| 19:49:05 | NetAmp | :P ;-) |
| 19:49:09 | whardier | heh |
| 19:49:09 | NetAmp | ask BigBoss :P |
| 19:49:10 | whardier | damn |
| 19:49:14 | whardier | beta9 |
| 19:49:15 | whardier | is funky |
| 19:49:19 | NetAmp | is it? |
| 19:49:21 | whardier | I need to download the entire feed to CF now |
| 19:49:32 | whardier | I wish my hunny kergoth was on |
| 19:52:20 | NetAmp | hahaha |
| 19:52:21 | NetAmp | *lol* |
| 19:52:35 | | kergoth is available at mailto:kergoth@digitalnemesis.net |
| 19:52:35 | NetAmp | ibot: kergoth |
| 19:52:45 | NetAmp | ;-) |
| 19:52:51 | NetAmp | bbl |
| 19:52:55 | NetAmp | have fun whardier! |
| 20:45:25 | dauxxx | a question about flashing OZ |
| 20:45:41 | dauxxx | zImage-beta7_48-16.exe ?? |
| 20:46:03 | dauxxx | what should i do with this ?? |
| 20:50:01 | Gepeto | dauxxx: no idea |
| 20:50:11 | Gepeto | I upgraded my rom only one and it was by uploading a file to a CF |
| 20:51:16 | dauxxx | have a only to rename this file ?? |
| 20:51:24 | Gepeto | uh |
| 20:51:34 | dauxxx | a cant execute this file |
| 20:51:39 | Gepeto | why not ? |
| 20:52:32 | dauxxx | dos-box say not enough memory :-( |
| 20:52:36 | Jet8810 | anybody selling their zaurus? |
| 20:52:44 | Gepeto | JETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT |
| 20:52:48 | Gepeto | jetjejtejt ej jet ejte tjejet |
| 20:52:49 | Jet8810 | hey gepepto! |
| 20:52:53 | Jet8810 | my ipaq sucks ass |
| 20:52:57 | Jet8810 | activesync wont SYNC |
| 20:52:58 | Jet8810 | UGH |
| 20:53:11 | Gepeto | Jet8810: had a problem yesterday at work |
| 20:53:21 | Gepeto | this raccoon saw the 10 000volt cable and thought "Yummy...cable!" |
| 20:53:29 | Gepeto | BAM! Fire! Smoke! burn! no more power :) |
| 20:54:06 | Jet8810 | gehe |
| 20:54:09 | Jet8810 | hehe even |
| 20:54:20 | Jet8810 | alright gp, what version of windows are you running? |
| 20:57:09 | Gepeto | uh |
| 20:57:11 | Gepeto | I run windows ? |
| 20:57:31 | Gepeto | ok well at work I run NT4, NT4 server, 2k, 2k server :) but at home? nada :) |
| 20:57:38 | Jet8810 | oh yea hehe |
| 20:57:39 | Jet8810 | nm |
| 20:57:48 | ljp | nada.. is that a new OS? |
| 20:57:54 | Jet8810 | ugh, if i were to get a burned co[py of somebodys 98 cd coudl i put it on my pc? |
| 20:57:59 | Jet8810 | cuz xp sucks ass |
| 20:58:05 | Jet8810 | you know what, how hard is it to learn linux? |
| 20:58:08 | Gepeto | Jet8810: 98 !? |
| 20:58:10 | ljp | so does 98 |
| 20:58:10 | Gepeto | put 2k |
| 20:58:18 | Gepeto | 98 blows cow goats |
| 20:58:23 | Gepeto | 2k is my favorite windows |
| 20:58:39 | Jet8810 | how hard woudl it be to flash and learn linux on my pc? |
| 20:58:49 | Jet8810 | and how would i go about syncing ipaq? |
| 20:58:54 | Jet8810 | would i put linux on that too? |
| 20:59:07 | mark | ljp, hunger: are either of you unable to turn ur Z on in OZ when not plugged into an AC Source? |
| 20:59:07 | Gepeto | Flash linux on your pc? |
| 20:59:11 | Gepeto | I call that installing an OS? |
| 20:59:14 | Gepeto | and for me it wasn't hard |
| 20:59:18 | Gepeto | depends what distro you use |
| 20:59:23 | Gepeto | I started with Debian, now I use gentoo |
| 20:59:34 | mark | Gepeto: ditto, not an easy one to start with though |
| 20:59:39 | Jet8810 | is it hard to learn how to use though? |
| 20:59:40 | hunger | mark: I think so. I allways have it connected to AC. |
| 20:59:48 | mark | hunger: can you try it for me? |
| 20:59:50 | Gepeto | mark: For some reason I always thought debian was easy |
| 21:00:10 | Gepeto | mark: I think it was just made the way I wanted an OS to be, so it was simple and intuitive for me |
| 21:00:12 | hunger | mark: What should I try? On/Off button? |
| 21:00:17 | mark | hunger: yeh |
| 21:00:54 | mark | hunger: it just wont turn on here |
| 21:00:58 | hunger | mark: Works fine for me. |
| 21:01:05 | mark | and now it has |
| 21:01:09 | hunger | mark: Even gets new IP via dhcp. |
| 21:01:20 | mark | sometimes mine works |
| 21:01:22 | mark | sometimes it doesnt |
| 21:01:29 | mark | sometimes it just goes on then immediately goes off again |
| 21:01:36 | hunger | mark: Did you press the button long enough? |
| 21:02:10 | mark | yeh, while i'm holding it it just flips off again |
| 21:02:49 | hunger | mark: I have not noticed that behaviour so far. |
| 21:03:07 | mark | its doing it while plugged in no |
| 21:03:08 | mark | w* |
| 21:04:19 | mark | if i turn it on and remove the power its fine |
| 21:11:01 | Gepeto | qtopia desktop segfaults :( |
| 22:11:39 | whardier | damnit.. where is my pimp?! |
| 22:12:27 | ljp | right here. man |
| 22:12:58 | whardier | no i need JasonNJ to hook me up with his bisexual chick friends in hawaii |
| 22:13:24 | ljp | hehehe |
| 22:13:33 | whardier | hehe |
| 22:13:40 | whardier | I have a weekend of nothing so far.. |
| 22:13:41 | whardier | heh |
| 22:14:06 | ljp | hey.. its raining here.. |
| 22:14:38 | ljp | go to a Hotel bar |
| 22:14:50 | whardier | hehe |
| 22:14:55 | whardier | gonna do that later at the Ko Olina hotel |
| 22:15:55 | ljp | naaa.. go to the Kuna Ling Us Hotel |
| 22:19:12 | whardier | haha |
| 22:20:27 | ljp | thats right around the corner from the Fel A Cio Bar |
| 22:22:30 | whardier | heh |
| 22:22:32 | whardier | ok |
| 22:22:40 | whardier | ohphone and aalib do not make since to eachother |
| 22:25:33 | Mictian | when i try to run quake for zaurus it tells me it cant load the wad file or that i need a registered version in order to run modified versions can anyone help? |
| 22:26:19 | whardier | ever played quake? |
| 22:27:01 | ljp | I felt a quake once.. up in Alaska |
| 22:28:04 | whardier | hehe |
| 22:28:06 | whardier | I did too |
| 22:28:17 | whardier | in Anchorage staying at a hotel that decided to shake |
| 22:28:21 | whardier | hmm |
| 22:28:27 | whardier | is girdwood hard to get too from anchorage? |
| 22:28:34 | whardier | I might go visit a buddy |
| 22:29:52 | Mictian | so nobody can help? |
| 22:30:35 | ljp | no, Girdwood is right down the highway toward Kenai |
| 22:31:17 | ljp | Mictian: I dont play quake, and I heard it doesn't play thatwell on the Z |
| 22:31:23 | Mictian | o |
| 22:31:34 | Mictian | what games do besides stupid ones heheh |
| 22:31:55 | ljp | whardier: provided you dont get run off the road and into the bay by all the crazy local drivers! |
| 22:33:58 | ljp | tictactoe plays pretty well |
| 22:47:01 | whardier | might have a job near Kenai |
| 22:47:06 | whardier | and Duch Harbor |
| 22:47:13 | whardier | heh |
| 22:47:16 | whardier | and worse of all |
| 22:47:18 | whardier | near Dead Horse |
| 22:47:29 | whardier | and all the way out in Adak |
| 22:47:38 | whardier | I found a loophole |
| 22:47:42 | whardier | and I need to exploit it |
| 22:47:53 | whardier | very badly |
| 22:48:38 | whardier | using ethernet channel bonding with starband dishes. (say like 5 of em) and offseting the network calls to each just enough to make it act like striping raid |
| 22:49:14 | whardier | the easiest way to do that is to make longer cables going to the network on each dish |
| 22:49:15 | whardier | heh |
| 22:49:16 | whardier | funny huh |
| 22:49:38 | whardier | then I can make like 35mbit downloads |
| 22:49:44 | whardier | and 5mbit uploads |
| 22:49:56 | whardier | with lower latency if I make the offset work |
| 22:50:10 | ljp | hmm.. can you send some of that bandwidth this way? |
| 22:50:14 | whardier | sure |
| 22:50:20 | whardier | buy 5 starband dishes |
| 22:50:27 | whardier | that is what I am doing when I come home |
| 22:50:39 | whardier | I am gonna buy 3 dishes and put them on my balcony |
| 22:50:41 | whardier | and get this working :) |
| 22:51:06 | whardier | all Ihave to do is make a tunnel going to some high bandwidth place over each sat |
| 22:51:10 | whardier | then I can bond the tunnels together |
| 22:51:18 | whardier | the worst part is if I wanna screw latency |
| 22:51:25 | whardier | I can compress and or encrypt each tunnel |
| 22:51:30 | whardier | then bond themtogether |
| 22:51:37 | whardier | talk about fast web surfing |
| 22:51:51 | whardier | I would rather fix the latency issue with offset writes to the sat |
| 22:52:09 | whardier | if it can send out to the entire world at a specific Hz |
| 22:52:16 | whardier | then it should recieve at a close to that Hz |
| 22:52:32 | whardier | so I should be able to offset the upload speed a bit |
| 22:55:18 | ljp | hmmmm... |
| 22:55:36 | ljp | all this through your Zaurus? ;) |
| 22:56:08 | whardier | yeah |
| 22:56:10 | whardier | of course |
| 22:56:11 | whardier | what else? |
| 22:56:45 | ljp | haha |
| 22:56:56 | ljp | make a cluster of Z's and do that |
| 22:58:04 | whardier | actually |
| 22:58:12 | whardier | a cluster of 800mhz transmetas |
| 23:00:44 | ljp | hmmmmm |
| 23:04:30 | ljp | how you going to get that in a zaurus? ;) |
| 23:09:39 | whardier | should I be staying on topic? |
| 23:09:48 | whardier | I could just start up a #whardier channel |
| 23:09:53 | whardier | nobody would join tho |
| 23:10:03 | whardier | unless they wanted to hear the fuckingest ramblings in the world |
| 23:13:32 | ljp | hahahah.. yep |
| 23:16:38 | whardier | :) |
| 23:19:27 | ljp | with any luck, Kergopth and I might get hired by Sharp... |
| 23:28:26 | ljp | heh |
| 23:38:26 | whardier | right on! |
| 23:38:35 | whardier | he deserves it! |
| 23:38:47 | whardier | smart ass litte fucker |
| 23:40:18 | ljp | also needs a kernel guy |
| 23:41:08 | ljp | ya.. if I ever get hired anywhere.. I'll shit bricks, and buy those poor ipaq opie devs some Z's |
| 23:41:31 | NetAmp | ;) |
| 23:42:47 | ljp | I'm tired of hear "well what if you don't have ir.." |
| 23:48:22 | whardier | I should snag the new OZ feed |
| 23:48:25 | whardier | err |
| 23:48:27 | whardier | beta9 |
| 23:48:29 | whardier | should I be using it? |
| 23:48:35 | whardier | cause nothing fucking installs on it |
| 23:48:44 | whardier | keeps saying out of disk space |
| 23:49:20 | ljp | use b9.2 |
| 23:49:35 | whardier | where? |
| 23:49:38 | whardier | gimme the link |
| 23:49:44 | ljp | k hang on |
| 23:50:55 | ljp | its on geezer somewhere |
| 23:51:30 | whardier | fuck |
| 23:51:31 | whardier | alright |
| 23:51:43 | ljp | geezer.umgllc.net/kergoth/initrd-ozb9.2.bin |
| 23:52:07 | NetAmp | heh whardier's really a die-hard beta tester ;) |
| 23:52:22 | whardier | dude |
| 23:52:27 | whardier | wanna be in my shoes :P |
| 23:52:38 | whardier | I would have helped kergoth all the way if I had steady income |
| 23:52:39 | whardier | but no |
| 23:52:39 | NetAmp | no thanks! *lol* |
| 23:52:42 | whardier | I have to go to hawaii |
| 23:52:43 | whardier | and alaska |
| 23:52:46 | whardier | just to make ends meet |
| 23:52:47 | whardier | :P |
| 23:52:54 | ljp | there was about 4 megs in /lib/gconv that wasn't needed |
| 23:52:56 | whardier | besides.. my shoes stink |
| 23:53:02 | NetAmp | *lol* |
| 23:53:05 | whardier | hmm |
| 23:53:09 | whardier | what kernel should I use |
| 23:53:11 | whardier | I have a huge SD |
| 23:53:47 | ljp | I use 26-6 |
| 23:53:55 | whardier | thats what I was using |
| 23:54:09 | whardier | what packages are neded for installing shit |
| 23:54:20 | whardier | cause I cannot install any from the feed when beta8 came out |
| 23:54:25 | whardier | like opieftp |
| 23:54:26 | ljp | should all be there in 9.2 |
| 23:54:27 | whardier | or anything |
| 23:54:30 | whardier | ok |
| 23:54:46 | whardier | anybody know how to use the no mtdram kernel |
| 23:54:47 | whardier | ? |
| 23:54:53 | whardier | I would rather use that with the SD |
| 23:55:09 | ljp | hmm. dont know |
| 23:55:58 | ljp | whats that you say? rum o'clock? |
| 23:56:07 | whardier | heh |