| 00:01:09 | ][N-Flux | now |
| 00:01:13 | ][N-Flux | time to flash again |
| 00:01:27 | ][N-Flux | just d/l oz 2.6 and all the opie packages? |
| 00:02:12 | Com[Plx | anyone here use vmware to run redhat in a shell under win2k? |
| 00:03:42 | roge99 | Com[Plx: you still have X problems |
| 00:03:46 | Com[Plx | yeah |
| 00:03:57 | roge99 | what error messages are you getting |
| 00:04:13 | Com[Plx | aparently vmware makes X run in depth of 15, and I cant get it to go. |
| 00:04:43 | Com[Plx | basically, I followed the directions to the letter, and it says "no display subsection in Screen section "Screen0" for depth/fbbpp 15/16 |
| 00:05:20 | roge99 | yea but what are the error messages |
| 00:05:39 | Com[Plx | so I create a subsection "display" depth 15, mode 640x480 and it throws up on me. |
| 00:05:45 | Com[Plx | that was the error message. |
| 00:06:07 | Com[Plx | followed by screens found but no compatable modes,, hang on, let me dictate verbose |
| 00:06:20 | roge99 | do a startx > xlog 2>&1 |
| 00:06:37 | Com[Plx | whats that do |
| 00:06:55 | roge99 | dumps std out and std error into a file called xlog |
| 00:07:00 | Com[Plx | "screens found but none have a usable configuration" |
| 00:07:39 | Com[Plx | whats with all the extra bullshit? |
| 00:07:47 | Com[Plx | 2>&1 ? |
| 00:08:12 | roge99 | that dumps std error as well as std out |
| 00:08:25 | Com[Plx | well, same thing happens. xlog shows those same things |
| 00:08:42 | Com[Plx | no display subsection in Screen section "Screen0" for depth/fbbpp 15/16 |
| 00:08:51 | Com[Plx | "screens found but none have a usable configuration" |
| 00:08:53 | roge99 | did you edit XF86Config or XF86Config-4 |
| 00:08:59 | Com[Plx | both |
| 00:09:05 | Com[Plx | been working with both' |
| 00:09:47 | Com[Plx | the instructions said to edit XF86Config, but I didnt get this far till I made similar changes to XF86Config-4 |
| 00:11:05 | roge99 | yea redhats 4.x server uses the XF6Config-4 |
| 00:12:42 | roge99 | what else is in the errror log |
| 00:13:22 | Com[Plx | I noticed that. - it starts out saying its using config file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4" - |
| 00:13:29 | Com[Plx | let me look for anytrhing else interesting |
| 00:14:13 | Com[Plx | it sees the driver right. |
| 00:15:04 | Com[Plx | starts loafing it, finds the vmware0405 chipset, and then loads libvgahw.a |
| 00:15:24 | Com[Plx | then says the no display subsection for that depth/fbbpp |
| 00:15:39 | Com[Plx | hang on, im gonna read that |
| 00:15:41 | Com[Plx | re-add |
| 00:17:57 | Com[Plx | do you know what the parts of the "Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0" line are for? ie, whats the 0 0? and the first 0 ? |
| 00:18:53 | roge99 | the first 0 is the display number |
| 00:19:24 | roge99 | if you had multi-head setup you would need to set a screen section for each display |
| 00:19:42 | Com[Plx | ah |
| 00:20:20 | roge99 | the format of the file changed between the 3.xx and 4.xx Xservers |
| 00:20:26 | Com[Plx | okay. so. new errors. heres where it throws up - it loads some new graphic mode and screen goes all wiggy, then pukes back to # |
| 00:20:52 | Com[Plx | moring xlog, one sec |
| 00:21:41 | roge99 | what version of X are you running |
| 00:22:52 | Com[Plx | the one that came with redhat 7.2 |
| 00:23:26 | roge99 | should say in the log file |
| 00:23:41 | roge99 | v 4.03 or v.4.02 etc |
| 00:23:50 | Com[Plx | errors are: Failed to set up write-combining range (0xfc000000,0x4000000) |
| 00:23:53 | Com[Plx | etc |
| 00:23:57 | Com[Plx | one moment |
| 00:24:15 | Com[Plx | 4.1.0 |
| 00:24:25 | Com[Plx | 4.1.0-3 |
| 00:25:07 | scanline | is having trouble subscribing to zaurus-general |
| 00:26:10 | roge99 | did you check the docs to make sure the module they have is compatible w/ 4.1.0 |
| 00:27:34 | Com[Plx | well, thats the thing, I had this working on here before. - but I only used it for a little while because my computer was so slow. now Im running an xp2000+ with 512mb ram. - I figure it will be quicker than on my 266 laptop wit6h 64 megs of ram. |
| 00:27:50 | Com[Plx | meaning, linux in a shell instead of on the laptop. |
| 00:29:13 | Com[Plx | hang on, im playing with default frequencies. |
| 00:30:54 | Com[Plx | wtf isn this. |
| 00:31:54 | Com[Plx | " Symbol mfbQueryBestSize from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vmware_drv.o is unresolved! " |
| 00:31:58 | Com[Plx | thats weak |
| 00:33:10 | roge99 | looks like the driver was built agenst a different version |
| 00:33:34 | Com[Plx | but it came with this release of redhat |
| 00:33:38 | Com[Plx | it was working before. |
| 00:33:41 | Com[Plx | grr.. |
| 00:33:42 | roge99 | mmm |
| 00:33:56 | roge99 | the vmware came with redhat ? |
| 00:33:59 | Com[Plx | I wanna know why the stupid driver wasnt listed as a device I could choose during the isntal.l |
| 00:34:03 | Com[Plx | no |
| 00:34:17 | Com[Plx | redhat came with the driver for vmware in that directory |
| 00:34:31 | roge99 | no the tools installed it |
| 00:36:03 | Com[Plx | uh.. |
| 00:36:04 | Com[Plx | hmm |
| 00:38:41 | roge99 | I think that module was built for X 3.xxx |
| 00:42:01 | roge99 | do a cksum on that module... what do you get |
| 00:42:20 | roge99 | hey Fastolfe |
| 00:42:25 | roge99 | how goes it |
| 00:42:26 | Fastolfe | hiya |
| 00:42:31 | Fastolfe | okay, you |
| 00:42:35 | roge99 | not bad |
| 00:44:49 | Com[Plx | 2548489462 78829 vmware_drv.0 |
| 00:44:58 | roge99 | Com[Plx: try to use the vga driver see if you can get 640x480 working |
| 00:45:00 | Com[Plx | cksum vmware_drv.0 |
| 00:45:05 | roge99 | yea |
| 00:45:13 | Com[Plx | tried that |
| 00:45:15 | Com[Plx | by default. |
| 00:45:21 | scanline | is away: pseudo-food-like-items |
| 00:45:23 | roge99 | did it work |
| 00:46:22 | Com[Plx | correct |
| 00:47:00 | roge99 | what version of vmware |
| 00:51:06 | Com[Plx | 3 |
| 00:51:09 | Com[Plx | 3.0 |
| 00:51:35 | roge99 | what build |
| 00:51:51 | Com[Plx | 1455 |
| 00:54:08 | roge99 | hmm thats the same version im running and my cheksum is differnt |
| 00:54:32 | roge99 | although im running linux in linux |
| 00:54:50 | roge99 | but the driver should be the same |
| 00:59:28 | roge99 | hmmm |
| 00:59:46 | roge99 | Com[Plx: seems that the tools also install a Xserver |
| 01:01:03 | Com[Plx | im seeinbg that |
| 01:01:13 | Com[Plx | weird,. my cdrom has shit itself, |
| 01:01:19 | Com[Plx | my burner even.. |
| 01:01:24 | Com[Plx | hang on, im gonna reboot. |
| 01:01:48 | ljp | I hate computers sometimes |
| 01:04:24 | ][N-Flux | hrmmmmm |
| 01:04:39 | ][N-Flux | wonder why the z wouldn't flash |
| 01:05:02 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: cf card fat16 ? |
| 01:05:19 | ][N-Flux | yeah |
| 01:05:45 | ][N-Flux | how do you format it again, been using my camera to do it |
| 01:06:24 | roge99 | mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/hda1 |
| 01:06:31 | roge99 | on the Z |
| 01:06:37 | ][N-Flux | gotcha |
| 01:10:33 | ][N-Flux | trying to flash the oz |
| 01:10:39 | ][N-Flux | did it before |
| 01:10:52 | ][N-Flux | but the directions are confusing me for some reason now |
| 01:11:08 | ][N-Flux | just put zImage and initrd.bin on the / of the f |
| 01:11:10 | ][N-Flux | cf even |
| 01:11:13 | ][N-Flux | right |
| 01:11:16 | roge99 | yep |
| 01:11:58 | ][N-Flux | then the whole C and D and reset right |
| 01:12:23 | roge99 | yep |
| 01:12:31 | ][N-Flux | o.k. |
| 01:12:38 | roge99 | make sure you got power pluged in |
| 01:12:47 | ][N-Flux | oh yeah :) |
| 01:13:28 | roge99 | Com[plex]: hey i think i know whats wrong |
| 01:14:19 | Com[plex] | yeah? |
| 01:14:35 | Com[plex] | maybe because I didnt uinstall vmware tools at the perfect moment? |
| 01:15:18 | roge99 | in /usr/X11R6/bin rm X and link X to XF86_VMware |
| 01:15:35 | roge99 | the server your starting is 4.1.0 |
| 01:15:52 | roge99 | the one that ships w/ vmware is 3.3.3 |
| 01:15:58 | file | curses... |
| 01:17:47 | Com[plex] | reallllyy... |
| 01:18:16 | Com[plex] | # link X XF86_VMware |
| 01:18:16 | Com[plex] | ? |
| 01:18:46 | roge99 | ln -s XF86_VMware X |
| 01:18:56 | Com[plex] | whats the -s do? |
| 01:19:01 | roge99 | soft link |
| 01:19:05 | Com[plex] | ah |
| 01:19:13 | Com[plex] | where did you find that? |
| 01:19:17 | roge99 | find what |
| 01:19:37 | Com[plex] | that information.. regarding the xf86_vmware |
| 01:19:51 | roge99 | i untarred the tools and looked in the dir |
| 01:20:03 | Com[plex] | hmm |
| 01:20:24 | roge99 | then i started thinking that they relley couldnt release that module without the server |
| 01:20:38 | file | erm |
| 01:20:49 | Com[plex] | hmm |
| 01:20:52 | file | what's the EXPORT so a compile will look in a directory for include files? |
| 01:22:03 | Com[plex] | -d ? |
| 01:22:15 | file | ? |
| 01:22:22 | whardier | fscks file |
| 01:22:41 | roge99 | whardier: how do you fsck a file ? |
| 01:22:53 | whardier | fsck file |
| 01:22:56 | whardier | hehe |
| 01:23:05 | roge99 | wouldnt it be better to chown wharder file |
| 01:23:14 | whardier | I OWN JOOO |
| 01:25:38 | Com[plex] | roge, cannot find that file. |
| 01:25:52 | Com[plex] | XF86_VMware |
| 01:26:20 | Fastolfe | cat ./whardier > /dev/null |
| 01:26:30 | roge99 | Com[plex]: hmm reinstall the tools |
| 01:26:42 | Com[plex] | I did that |
| 01:26:57 | Com[plex] | *sigh* |
| 01:27:04 | Com[plex] | Im gonna try reinstalling rh |
| 01:27:12 | Com[plex] | just wipe it out and try again. |
| 01:27:15 | roge99 | when you intar it look in the dir that i untarred in |
| 01:27:55 | Com[plex] | untar what? - whenI install the tools, all I do is press control+alt to release cursor, then click where it says click here to isntall tools. then that goes away. |
| 01:28:02 | Com[plex] | is something ELSE supposed to happen? |
| 01:28:31 | roge99 | Com[plex]: hold on one sec phone call |
| 01:29:23 | Com[plex] | ahh, - now I think I see... |
| 01:29:25 | Com[plex] | hang on a sec |
| 01:30:15 | Fastolfe | hmm |
| 01:30:26 | Fastolfe | why is qtopia running out of memory all the bloody time |
| 01:30:37 | Fastolfe | thinks qtopia leaks memory |
| 01:32:46 | ][N-Flux | ugh |
| 01:32:51 | ][N-Flux | pain in my ass |
| 01:32:58 | Fastolfe | what is ? |
| 01:33:01 | Com[plex] | I think I got it roge99: my stupid vmware-linux-tools.tar.gz is corrupt. |
| 01:33:04 | Com[plex] | its not even reading it |
| 01:33:09 | Com[plex] | 0 bute |
| 01:33:10 | Com[plex] | byte |
| 01:34:04 | roge99 | hmm .. thats part of the vmware install |
| 01:34:25 | roge99 | you may need to reinstall vmware |
| 01:34:45 | roge99 | ive never run the winbloze version |
| 01:35:03 | Com[plex] | no no, its on the CDrom. its not readable |
| 01:35:55 | Com[plex] | I dont know why its reporting it as zero.. hang on, let me put it in my burner. |
| 01:35:56 | roge99 | when you click on the install tools it should mount a "fake" cdrom to the system |
| 01:36:11 | Com[plex] | thats odd... |
| 01:36:13 | roge99 | do a mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom |
| 01:36:29 | roge99 | ist not a real cd that needs to be in there |
| 01:36:56 | roge99 | not at least on the linux version |
| 01:37:39 | Com[plex] | mmm.. |
| 01:39:52 | Com[plex] | well, look at that. |
| 01:40:09 | Com[plex] | way to rtfm jonnyboy. |
| 01:40:15 | Com[plex] | slaps head |
| 01:40:17 | roge99 | ha |
| 01:41:03 | roge99 | so i take it you got it working |
| 01:41:49 | Com[plex] | its going. im reading every letter. |
| 01:41:50 | Com[plex] | hehe |
| 01:41:54 | ][N-Flux | opie taskbar makes my Z just loop |
| 01:41:55 | Com[plex] | no more oversights. |
| 01:42:00 | Com[plex] | nflux |
| 01:42:02 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 01:42:02 | ][N-Flux | what's up |
| 01:42:27 | Com[plex] | rpkg uninstall taskbar |
| 01:42:31 | Com[plex] | did the same to me |
| 01:42:39 | Com[plex] | I might have even had to re flash. |
| 01:42:55 | Com[plex] | one of those things made me re flash, because of what it did to my symlinks |
| 01:42:58 | Com[plex] | total mess |
| 01:45:25 | ][N-Flux | fuck |
| 01:45:29 | ][N-Flux | pain in the arse |
| 01:46:57 | ][N-Flux | had to hard reset |
| 01:47:18 | Com[plex] | yup |
| 01:47:23 | whardier | go jffs2! |
| 01:47:33 | Com[plex] | thats what I mena, not reflash, but hard reset |
| 01:47:39 | whardier | heh |
| 01:47:54 | Com[plex] | oh hey, does anyone have that scummvm emulator running on the Z yet? |
| 01:48:04 | Com[plex] | I want to play my old day of the tentacle game :> |
| 01:48:27 | Fastolfe | fuck a duck |
| 01:48:36 | Fastolfe | chapeau-rouge pisses the crap out of me ! |
| 01:49:42 | ][N-Flux | any other opie packages I should be wary of? |
| 01:50:56 | ljp | N-Flux.. you should email your taskbar thing to opie mailing list |
| 01:51:13 | ][N-Flux | ljp I will indeed do that |
| 02:00:20 | ][N-Flux | hrmmm |
| 02:00:35 | ][N-Flux | linksys cd wireless not supported in oz? |
| 02:00:39 | ][N-Flux | cf even |
| 02:01:43 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: yea you need to edit a few files though |
| 02:02:26 | ][N-Flux | you got info? |
| 02:02:31 | Chris1 | 2Can anyone tell me how readable the Zaurus screen in outdoors? |
| 02:02:49 | roge99 | Chris1: works good |
| 02:03:11 | Chris1 | How is the contrast. could you read it while driveing a motorcycle? |
| 02:03:16 | ][N-Flux | pretty nice when outdoors |
| 02:04:00 | Chris1 | I'm thinking of using it for a built-in motorcycle computer. GPS, MP3, tach, speedo. |
| 02:04:05 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: yea you need to put a ifconfig $2 up after the usage block in /etc/wlan-ng ( i think thats the file ) |
| 02:04:37 | roge99 | and add support for the card in wlan-ng.conf |
| 02:05:04 | roge99 | then you need to reboot or restart pcmcia services |
| 02:07:48 | ][N-Flux | hrmmm |
| 02:08:00 | ][N-Flux | not seeing wlan-ng |
| 02:08:13 | roge99 | hmm let me check |
| 02:09:03 | roge99 | in /etc/pcmcai |
| 02:09:12 | roge99 | /etc/pcmcia |
| 02:10:18 | Fastolfe | I 8HATE 4RED HAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:10:27 | Com[plex] | my girlfriends shopping for a bikini for the summer.. |
| 02:10:33 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 02:10:58 | Com[plex] | she thinks her tatas are too big. - they are C, and seriously breathtaking in there perfection. |
| 02:11:15 | Com[plex] | wait a sec. this isnt my regular channel. you guys dont want to ehar about my gf. |
| 02:11:15 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 02:11:24 | Com[plex] | goes back to other channel |
| 02:11:26 | ][N-Flux | roge so right after the usage block insert ifconfig $2 |
| 02:11:33 | Fastolfe | Com[plex]: no, we want to see your gf :) |
| 02:11:37 | roge99 | ifconfig $2 up |
| 02:11:42 | ][N-Flux | ifconfig $2 up even |
| 02:11:49 | roge99 | yep |
| 02:12:03 | ][N-Flux | right after the last if statment correct |
| 02:12:27 | whardier | <Fastolfe> I HATE RED HAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:12:29 | whardier | hehehe |
| 02:12:34 | roge99 | yea i think |
| 02:12:35 | whardier | gets the torch ready |
| 02:12:54 | roge99 | im not running 2.6 now and dont remember exactly what the file looks like |
| 02:13:29 | ][N-Flux | o.k. |
| 02:13:39 | ][N-Flux | how do I add the support in the .conf file |
| 02:13:48 | Fastolfe | Red Hat == one legged cat tried to bury turds on a frozen lake |
| 02:14:08 | roge99 | hmmm there was a how to on sharp site i think |
| 02:17:00 | ][N-Flux | looking for it now |
| 02:18:38 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: hang on i think i got a copy of that file here |
| 02:19:00 | ][N-Flux | thanks |
| 02:20:11 | roge99 | card "Linksys WCF11 11Mbps 802.11b WLAN Card" |
| 02:20:11 | roge99 | manfid 0x0274, 0x3301 |
| 02:20:11 | roge99 | bind "prism2_cs" |
| 02:20:32 | roge99 | stick that in wlan-ng.conf |
| 02:21:11 | roge99 | and wlan-ng should look like |
| 02:21:13 | roge99 | echo " debug : enables shell debug" |
| 02:21:13 | roge99 | exit 1 |
| 02:21:14 | roge99 | } |
| 02:21:14 | roge99 | /sbin/ifconfig $2 up |
| 02:21:14 | roge99 | if [ "$3" = "debug" ]; then set -x ; fi |
| 02:21:42 | ][N-Flux | yuppers |
| 02:21:53 | ][N-Flux | it's in the zaurus zone forums too |
| 02:24:00 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: if you take a round file to the side of that card the stylus will fit |
| 02:24:20 | roge99 | you only need to remove a small amount of plastic |
| 02:24:51 | ][N-Flux | nice |
| 02:24:54 | ][N-Flux | thanks man |
| 02:24:58 | roge99 | no prob |
| 02:25:08 | Fastolfe | lol :) "Creating Directorys and Database files, this might take time. Go buy a pizza or something." |
| 02:25:21 | roge99 | ha ! |
| 02:25:26 | roge99 | whats that from |
| 02:25:31 | Fastolfe | rpm-get installer |
| 02:26:44 | roge99 | i still like the install script from windowmaker |
| 02:26:57 | roge99 | did you read the docs (y/n): |
| 02:27:38 | roge99 | are you lieing (y/n): |
| 02:28:43 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 02:29:49 | | OK, roge99. |
| 02:29:49 | roge99 | ibot: were is Fastolfe |
| 02:30:04 | Fastolfe | ? :) |
| 02:30:13 | file | lol |
| 02:30:16 | roge99 | you broke him |
| 02:30:17 | | Fastolfe is pissing in the cubicle again or hackin an obscure gizmo |
| 02:30:17 | file | ibot: where is Fastolfe? |
| 02:30:29 | file | lol |
| 02:30:38 | roge99 | ahh my fat fingers again |
| 02:31:25 | file | I best be off |
| 02:31:30 | roge99 | later |
| 02:31:33 | Fastolfe | hmmm |
| 02:31:46 | | i think file is a happy Philips Nino user |
| 02:31:46 | Fastolfe | ibot: what is file ? |
| 02:31:54 | Fastolfe | we'll fix that |
| 02:32:03 | | Fastolfe: I forgot file |
| 02:32:03 | Fastolfe | ibot: forget file |
| 02:32:14 | | OK, Fastolfe. |
| 02:32:14 | Fastolfe | ibot: file is a numbskull |
| 02:32:29 | | i guess file is a numbskull |
| 02:32:29 | Fastolfe | ibot: what is file |
| 02:32:36 | Fastolfe | ain't dat better :) |
| 02:32:36 | roge99 | lol |
| 02:32:51 | | Fastolfe is pissing in the cubicle again or hackin an obscure gizmo |
| 02:32:51 | roge99 | ibot what is Fastolfe |
| 02:33:06 | | Kergoth is probably busy fixing something or other. Email him at mailto:kergoth@digitalnemesis.net |
| 02:33:06 | roge99 | ibot what is kergoth |
| 02:33:23 | Fastolfe | 0roge99 1is 2very 3silly 4 indeed |
| 02:33:35 | roge99 | yes i am |
| 02:34:27 | roge99 | Fastolfe: so what obscure gizmo are ya hacken tonight ? |
| 02:37:03 | Fastolfe | Just working actually, it's really sad |
| 02:37:19 | Fastolfe | and finishing up my new cpu core design of course :) |
| 02:37:49 | ljp | oh you mean the transmeta chip? heh |
| 02:38:01 | Fastolfe | naaw, transmeta == lame :) |
| 02:38:15 | Fastolfe | I managed to redesign my core so it only needs 250 gates |
| 02:38:34 | ][N-Flux | hrmmmm |
| 02:38:43 | Fastolfe | and I have the 386 microcode ported to it, so I should be able to boot linux on the damn thing eventually |
| 02:40:31 | ljp | or DOS! |
| 02:40:35 | Fastolfe | I've got an idea for my CPU project's logo |
| 02:40:46 | Fastolfe | a penguin balancing on a pin :) |
| 02:40:58 | Fastolfe | ljp: DOS boots up already (DRDOS) |
| 02:41:09 | ljp | I figured so |
| 02:41:13 | Fastolfe | heh |
| 02:41:23 | Fastolfe | it takes around 3 days to boot tho |
| 02:41:31 | ljp | can DRDOS run xtree? |
| 02:41:35 | Fastolfe | Linux will take well over a month |
| 02:41:41 | Fastolfe | xtree ? |
| 02:41:41 | ljp | to boot? |
| 02:41:45 | Fastolfe | yes |
| 02:41:59 | Fastolfe | it's a relay computer |
| 02:42:01 | scanline | is back (gone 01:56:40) |
| 02:42:03 | ljp | xtree is a old file manager |
| 02:42:07 | Fastolfe | oic |
| 02:42:11 | Fastolfe | never tried it |
| 02:42:17 | Fastolfe | I used norton commander |
| 02:42:51 | ljp | Iuse xtree and dos commander on dos |
| 02:43:04 | Fastolfe | ljp==DOS power user |
| 02:43:16 | Fastolfe | ljp: you outta try the multitasker in DRDOS |
| 02:43:47 | ljp | no |
| 02:43:51 | Fastolfe | yes! |
| 02:43:54 | Fastolfe | :) |
| 02:44:28 | ljp | real multitasking? |
| 02:44:42 | Fastolfe | yes, in protected mode and all |
| 02:44:56 | Fastolfe | it can even run DOS4GW in virtual machines |
| 02:45:15 | Fastolfe | == Duke nukem in one VM and your boss' work in the other :) |
| 02:45:33 | ljp | interesting |
| 02:47:14 | Fastolfe | I used to maintain it, at one time I had 12 or more tasks running, like 3 games, a kernel compilation, and other stuffs, and it worked :) |
| 02:47:18 | ljp | uses dos on a packard bell 386 laptop (sometimes) |
| 02:47:38 | Fastolfe | heh |
| 02:47:44 | Fastolfe | if it does the work, Y not |
| 02:48:25 | ljp | yep... I dont use it much |
| 02:48:51 | ljp | sat track mostly |
| 02:51:10 | ][N-Flux | so close so far |
| 02:51:20 | ][N-Flux | now my linksys cf is just blinking |
| 02:51:22 | ][N-Flux | hrmmm |
| 02:52:06 | roge99 | do you have an access point ? |
| 02:52:11 | ][N-Flux | yeah |
| 02:52:27 | ][N-Flux | had it working with the sharp rom |
| 02:52:44 | ][N-Flux | I can ping the addy I gave it |
| 02:52:54 | ][N-Flux | but not the gateway |
| 02:53:18 | roge99 | dosnt sound like is connecting w/ the acess point |
| 02:53:38 | ][N-Flux | yeah |
| 02:54:45 | ][N-Flux | wired |
| 02:54:45 | roge99 | got the ESSID and wep setup properly |
| 02:54:48 | ][N-Flux | weird even |
| 02:54:52 | ][N-Flux | uhhuh |
| 02:54:56 | ][N-Flux | no wep |
| 02:55:03 | ][N-Flux | essid is set |
| 02:55:13 | roge99 | did you reboot |
| 02:55:31 | roge99 | after making those changes |
| 02:55:32 | ][N-Flux | uhuh |
| 02:55:46 | ][N-Flux | reboot again |
| 02:55:50 | ][N-Flux | just in case |
| 02:56:10 | roge99 | is that a no or yes ( i dont speak cave-man) |
| 02:56:43 | roge99 | :-) |
| 02:56:46 | ][N-Flux | sorry had my ahnds full |
| 02:56:50 | ][N-Flux | hands too |
| 02:56:56 | ][N-Flux | and yes I rebooted |
| 02:56:56 | roge99 | just kidding |
| 02:57:05 | Fastolfe | wtf |
| 02:57:14 | roge99 | ftw |
| 02:57:22 | Fastolfe | Am I the only one to see qtopia run out of mem constantly ? |
| 02:57:28 | ljp | no |
| 02:57:34 | Fastolfe | sup with that ? |
| 02:57:35 | scanline | definitely not |
| 02:57:45 | ljp | try ftping a big file to it |
| 02:57:54 | ljp | or from it |
| 02:57:56 | ][N-Flux | light is solid until I give it an ip, then it's starts blinking |
| 02:57:58 | scanline | try opening a big jpeg file |
| 02:58:03 | ][N-Flux | hrmmmm |
| 02:58:24 | Fastolfe | well, I do stuff that takes up mem, then when the mem is freed up, the damn gui doesn't stop popping that "memory low" pisser |
| 02:59:16 | Fastolfe | aawww crap |
| 02:59:19 | ][N-Flux | damn damn damn |
| 02:59:51 | Fastolfe | I dunno for you guys, but I reckon the roms in the Apple II were much higher quality than anything software shops come up with these days |
| 03:00:32 | scanline | bursts into tears... sourceforge down for maintenance |
| 03:00:51 | Fastolfe | scanline: yep yep, that's why I moved the VNC server somewhere else |
| 03:01:18 | Fastolfe | scanline: SF == 99.999% guaranteed unreliability |
| 03:06:42 | Com[plex] | roge99: you still around? |
| 03:07:36 | Com[plex] | I reinstalled everything and did they vmware tools install corectly, but now I keep getting all these errors, tha6t it cant Identify the modules listed in the XF86Config file. |
| 03:11:44 | roge99 | Com[plex]: copy off the XF-4 file to abackup and cp the XF86Confg to XF86Config-4 |
| 03:12:15 | Com[plex] | but its the XF86Config file that its using here. |
| 03:12:18 | Com[plex] | says so in its log |
| 03:12:23 | roge99 | hmm |
| 03:12:27 | roge99 | did you edit it |
| 03:13:34 | roge99 | what modules is it complaining about |
| 03:13:38 | Com[plex] | all of them |
| 03:13:42 | Com[plex] | everyone thats mentioned |
| 03:13:54 | roge99 | whats mentioned |
| 03:16:16 | Com[plex] | now this is different. |
| 03:16:24 | roge99 | what ?? |
| 03:16:33 | roge99 | sup codemnky |
| 03:16:35 | codemnky | hey |
| 03:16:40 | Com[plex] | now its complaining about unresolved symbols in the driver |
| 03:16:41 | codemnky | quick question |
| 03:16:53 | roge99 | shoot |
| 03:17:10 | codemnky | i looked in sshd_config and such and can't find out how to turn this off: |
| 03:17:12 | codemnky | 6010/tcp open x11-ssh-offset |
| 03:17:24 | codemnky | know what that is? |
| 03:17:52 | Com[plex] | now its saying it cant find the mouse. no core pointer. - would it not load just because of the damned mouse? |
| 03:18:22 | roge99 | codemnky ssh does x11 forwarding |
| 03:18:32 | codemnky | yea i have that set to off |
| 03:18:34 | codemnky | hmm |
| 03:18:49 | roge99 | Com[plex]: yes it wont load if it has no mouse |
| 03:19:01 | Com[plex] | well |
| 03:19:12 | Com[plex] | whats the /dev for usb mouse? |
| 03:19:22 | Com[plex] | says it cant find /dev/mouse |
| 03:19:22 | roge99 | hmm not sure |
| 03:19:34 | scanline | /dev/input/mice |
| 03:21:03 | Com[plex] | what would the protocol be for that? |
| 03:22:09 | scanline | PS/2 |
| 03:22:22 | Com[plex] | for a USB mouse? |
| 03:23:18 | scanline | yes |
| 03:23:35 | scanline | it goes through the kernel's input subsystem, which emulates a ps2 mouse device for convenience |
| 03:24:03 | Com[plex] | well. then theres no reason why it shouldnt work.. |
| 03:28:17 | ljp | are you trying a usb mouse on the z? |
| 03:28:24 | Com[plex] | no |
| 03:28:31 | ljp | heh good.. |
| 03:28:32 | Com[plex] | in a VMware shell under win2k |
| 03:28:36 | ljp | ahh |
| 03:28:47 | Com[plex] | cant get redhat to run X |
| 03:32:02 | Com[plex] | what do they mean by "GSX Server Configuration Editor : |
| 03:32:10 | Com[plex] | how do I access that? |
| 03:33:24 | Com[plex] | nm |
| 03:39:24 | Com[plex] | well this is interesting.. |
| 03:41:23 | roge99 | Com[plex]: what ? |
| 03:43:59 | Com[plex] | IM IN! |
| 03:44:02 | Com[plex] | and I dont know how |
| 03:44:04 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 03:44:21 | roge99 | Com[plex]: are you sure that the VMware machine sees that mouse as usb ? |
| 03:44:25 | Com[plex] | I jsut kept running the iunstall.pl, and X alternatively |
| 03:44:39 | Com[plex] | I set it up as a generic 3 button ps2 |
| 03:44:47 | roge99 | yea thats what i thought |
| 03:44:49 | Com[plex] | voodoo I say. |
| 03:44:52 | Com[plex] | but hey, my sounds working! |
| 03:44:57 | roge99 | cool |
| 03:45:07 | Com[plex] | now, I must shut that off right away |
| 03:45:40 | Com[plex] | sets mode -s ;VMware |
| 03:45:57 | Com[plex] | and my resolutions like 1600 |
| 03:46:16 | Com[plex] | I gotta turn that down, even on my gs815 its still a little hard on my eyes. |
| 03:51:01 | Com[plex] | um.... |
| 03:51:10 | Com[plex] | how do I lower my resolution while in KDE? |
| 03:52:03 | roge99 | did you set up multi res in the config file |
| 03:52:26 | Com[plex] | heheheh |
| 03:52:33 | Com[plex] | huh? I mean. UI dont know |
| 03:52:34 | Com[plex] | I |
| 03:52:43 | roge99 | ctl alt keypad + |
| 03:52:43 | Com[plex] | where would I do it if I did? |
| 03:52:45 | Com[plex] | ahhh |
| 03:52:51 | roge99 | ctl alt keypad - |
| 03:52:58 | roge99 | to cycle resolutions |
| 03:53:45 | Com[plex] | that didnt work. :< |
| 03:53:49 | Fastolfe | grrr source-fscking-forge :( |
| 03:54:10 | fusion94 | Fastolfe: SourceFOrge sucks |
| 03:54:19 | fusion94 | it was written by jackasses |
| 03:54:24 | roge99 | Com[plex]: then you need to edit XF86Config |
| 03:54:49 | Fastolfe | heh, good one fusion94 :) |
| 03:55:10 | Com[plex] | k |
| 03:55:21 | fusion94 | Fastolfe: thanks :) |
| 03:55:26 | Fastolfe | :)) |
| 03:55:43 | Fastolfe | I spose the people still working on it have their heads stuck up their asses tho |
| 03:55:48 | Com[plex] | roge: I realy appreciate your help with this. I dont think I could have got this far without it. |
| 03:55:52 | scanline | thinks sourceforge's email forwarding is down too :( |
| 03:55:55 | roge99 | no prob |
| 04:01:34 | Com[plex] | how can I set up multi res in the config file? |
| 04:03:08 | roge99 | Modes "640x480" "800x600" |
| 04:03:18 | roge99 | would giive you two |
| 04:03:31 | Com[plex] | hmmm. |
| 04:03:50 | roge99 | is that a 3.3 Xserver |
| 04:03:59 | Com[plex] | uh.. |
| 04:04:01 | Com[plex] | how can I check? |
| 04:04:08 | roge99 | check the log |
| 04:06:27 | Com[plex] | /var/log/messages? |
| 04:06:31 | roge99 | naa |
| 04:06:48 | roge99 | startx > xlog 2>&1 |
| 04:06:55 | Com[plex] | but its running allready :> |
| 04:07:02 | Com[plex] | I didnt run that command |
| 04:07:23 | Com[plex] | could I do that again while im in X? |
| 04:07:25 | roge99 | kill off x |
| 04:07:30 | Com[plex] | hehe |
| 04:07:33 | Com[plex] | but im afraid to! |
| 04:07:37 | Com[plex] | hehe/ just a sexc |
| 04:08:00 | roge99 | if the config is setup your not gona hose it now |
| 04:09:00 | roge99 | ctl alt backspace will kill the xserver |
| 04:09:30 | Com[plex] | its started again |
| 04:09:44 | Com[plex] | let me cehck the log |
| 04:09:56 | Com[plex] | its hard to manage this screen since its so big |
| 04:10:37 | Com[plex] | Xferee version 4.1.0-3 |
| 04:10:53 | roge99 | hmmm |
| 04:11:25 | roge99 | then your x config will be different |
| 04:12:16 | roge99 | well that line wil be the same |
| 04:12:45 | scanline | is annoyed sourceforge is down |
| 04:12:49 | scanline | is going to bed..... |
| 04:12:58 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzzz |
| 04:13:06 | Fastolfe | it's back up |
| 04:13:51 | scanline | Fastolfe: looks like the email's still down though |
| 04:14:02 | scanline | sleeps or something... |
| 04:14:08 | Fastolfe | hmm |
| 04:14:11 | Com[plex] | so, is there seriously no control panel to manage resolutions from within X? |
| 04:14:15 | Fastolfe | oh well |
| 04:14:38 | Com[plex] | is there any place I can go to CHECK what its set to? IE, depth and resolution |
| 04:14:40 | roge99 | Com[plex]: not that i know of |
| 04:14:45 | ljp | ya.. the control panel is xf86config |
| 04:15:04 | Com[plex] | you gotta be kidding me. linux, the biggest opensource project ever. doesnt have anything for that? |
| 04:15:32 | Com[plex] | jesus. I thought neccesity was the father of invention. |
| 04:15:40 | roge99 | Com[plex]: im not much for guis to do my config files though |
| 04:16:00 | ljp | yes.. i just told you.. |
| 04:16:14 | ljp | xf86config IS the control panel for X |
| 04:16:21 | Com[plex] | xf86config is crap. its a text file. |
| 04:16:39 | ljp | no. its a binary app |
| 04:17:02 | Com[plex] | shakes cobwebs out of head |
| 04:17:18 | ljp | try /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config |
| 04:17:20 | Com[plex] | right, its a utility for setting up something, its strill crap |
| 04:17:43 | Com[plex] | whatever, im not gonna get into an argument with anyone over the semantics of it. |
| 04:18:21 | ljp | well.. then edit /etc/X11/XF86Config |
| 04:19:41 | bewmIES | <Com[plex]> Xferee version 4.1.0-3 |
| 04:19:48 | bewmIES | XF86Config-4, not XF86Config |
| 04:19:48 | ljp | there's also /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86cfg |
| 04:19:57 | bewmIES | That's the configuration file that XFree4 uses. |
| 04:20:07 | bewmIES | Try XFree86 -configure (as root) |
| 04:31:46 | roge99 | Com[plex]: what resolutions are you trying to get |
| 04:32:46 | Com[plex] | lower than 1600 |
| 04:32:59 | Com[plex] | Id like 1024, or even as low as 800 |
| 04:34:06 | roge99 | edit the config file where it says modes add some additional resolutions there |
| 04:35:11 | bewmIES | Funny, I'm always trying to get _higher_ resolutions. :) |
| 04:35:20 | roge99 | me too ! |
| 04:39:22 | Com[plex] | hehe |
| 04:39:34 | Com[plex] | get a bigger monitor. seems as this things pretty eager to go large. |
| 04:43:31 | roge99 | Com[plex]: Well ? Any Luck? |
| 04:43:43 | Com[plex] | uh, actually, working on something else right now :> |
| 04:44:01 | Com[plex] | stupid accessibility options under win2k. hehe |
| 04:44:11 | Com[plex] | held down the shift key for 5 seconds and turned em on, |
| 04:44:16 | Com[plex] | jerked me out of vmware |
| 04:44:28 | Com[plex] | well, im gonna take a break |
| 04:44:40 | Com[plex] | im gonna go to the corner store and get some grub. |
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| 05:05:15 | Fastolfe | ibot seen kergoth |
| 05:17:23 | Fastolfe | SF chews rocks :) |
| 05:17:28 | Fastolfe | pokes fusion94- |
| 05:20:35 | bewmIES | SF chews? |
| 05:21:30 | roge99 | nite all |
| 05:21:54 | roge99_away | is away: ZzzzZzz |
| 05:28:02 | bewmIES | Sleep is for the week. |
| 05:36:32 | whardier | hi |
| 05:37:27 | Fastolfe | WHARDIER !!!!!!!! |
| 05:37:34 | Fastolfe | what a pleasure indeed |
| 05:38:45 | whardier | :) |
| 05:44:35 | ][N-Flux | this is odd |
| 05:45:35 | ][N-Flux | got the linksys wireless cf working in OZ, but the connection seems to time out |
| 05:45:40 | ][N-Flux | really odd |
| 05:45:48 | whardier | same |
| 05:46:01 | Fastolfe | 1w2h3a4r5d6i7e8r my hero |
| 05:46:30 | whardier | Fastolfe did the mormons let you drink? |
| 05:46:35 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 05:46:53 | Fastolfe | they take care of that themselves discretely at home |
| 05:47:16 | whardier | most of the ones I know have a line of kegs on tap in the basement |
| 05:47:31 | Fastolfe | I don't think so, it's illegal here |
| 05:48:10 | Fastolfe | I have a friend from oz who bought a keg in wyoming, somebody denounced him, the cop stormed his house and he spent the night in jail |
| 05:48:21 | Fastolfe | he flew back to oz the next week |
| 05:49:11 | whardier | oz? |
| 05:49:16 | Fastolfe | australia |
| 05:49:22 | whardier | wait |
| 05:49:27 | whardier | bought keg in wyoming |
| 05:49:29 | Fastolfe | not openzaurus |
| 05:49:31 | whardier | came to utah |
| 05:49:31 | Fastolfe | :) |
| 05:49:37 | whardier | then got cought? |
| 05:49:45 | whardier | with a keg of beer? |
| 05:49:46 | Fastolfe | he came to the holyland with the family, to work for us |
| 05:49:52 | whardier | hahaha |
| 05:50:23 | Fastolfe | he was bored, went on a booze cruise to evanston. WY, brought back the damn keg, and got charged in court for it here :) |
| 05:50:30 | whardier | whats the stupid law! |
| 05:51:33 | Fastolfe | you know what ? when I go gambling in NV every week or so, I go with my 73 Charger, and each and every time, the cops stop me on my way back to UT and ask me if I'm running shine. It never misses :) |
| 05:51:41 | Fastolfe | must be the car, it does look like a runner |
| 05:52:01 | whardier | you cannot take alchy in? |
| 05:52:35 | Fastolfe | only something like 2 liters of wine and 1 liter or hard booze, or something silly like that |
| 05:52:52 | Fastolfe | otherwise you pay taxes, or you go to jail, depending on the amount found in your car |
| 05:53:03 | whardier | HAHAHA |
| 05:53:08 | whardier | says Bullshit |
| 05:53:51 | Fastolfe | 1w2h3a4r5d6i7e8r: http://www.utahliquorlaws.com/ |
| 05:53:57 | Fastolfe | that link is fun :) |
| 05:55:23 | Fastolfe | ooh there's a new link :) |
| 05:55:28 | Fastolfe | www.slcgetalife.com lolol |
| 06:03:46 | whardier | ximian |
| 06:04:16 | bewmIES | /getlaid.asp |
| 06:04:20 | whardier | http://www.utahliquorlaws.com/ |
| 06:04:22 | bewmIES | That would be funny if it weren't for the .asp. |
| 06:04:33 | Fastolfe | what's with the asp ? |
| 06:04:38 | whardier | if there is a holyland |
| 06:04:42 | whardier | in america |
| 06:04:45 | whardier | it should be Colorado |
| 06:04:57 | bewmIES | ASP is lame dude :) |
| 06:05:01 | Fastolfe | 1w2h3a4r5d6i7e8r: naaw, it should be StPaul |
| 06:05:05 | bewmIES | No, Delaware is the holy land |
| 06:05:08 | whardier | haha |
| 06:05:20 | bewmIES | I shit you not. I don't know what they put in the water down there but there were more hotties at UD then I've ever seen anywhere else. |
| 06:05:26 | bewmIES | DE is shit as a state, but Newark is fun. :) |
| 06:05:35 | Fastolfe | bewmIES: well yeah, but the guy who does that site doesn't give a flying mormon heck |
| 06:06:37 | Fastolfe | I've got to admit, girls around here are really cute. Cuter than, say, Bangor, Maine |
| 06:06:42 | Fastolfe | but they're too white |
| 06:06:56 | Fastolfe | I want a black date. Can't find me one here |
| 06:07:10 | bewmIES | heh |
| 06:07:10 | whardier | We would like to say "bullshit." |
| 06:07:13 | whardier | heh |
| 06:07:16 | Fastolfe | yeah :) |
| 06:07:24 | bewmIES | When I was single, the Mormon girls I dated would go down for a slice of pizza. |
| 06:07:30 | bewmIES | Hell, that's cheaper then getting them drunk. |
| 06:07:32 | Fastolfe | here's another fun site from the same guy : www.deserettribune.com |
| 06:07:39 | whardier | hahaha |
| 06:07:46 | whardier | Enroll at BYU |
| 06:07:47 | whardier | ! |
| 06:07:48 | Com[plex] | FASTOLFE |
| 06:07:49 | Fastolfe | heh |
| 06:07:54 | Fastolfe | Com[plex]: sup ? |
| 06:07:55 | Com[plex] | what do you know about bangor maine? |
| 06:08:01 | whardier | When I was single, the |
| 06:08:01 | whardier | Mormon girls I dated would go down for a slice of pizza. |
| 06:08:02 | whardier | |
| 06:08:04 | whardier | hahaha |
| 06:08:11 | Fastolfe | Com[plex]: that girls in Utah are cuter :) |
| 06:08:14 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 06:08:21 | Com[plex] | but there all mormons |
| 06:08:26 | Fastolfe | they |
| 06:08:27 | bewmIES | I don't like New England girls except for my girlfriend. |
| 06:08:28 | Fastolfe | oops |
| 06:08:28 | Com[plex] | your from bangor? |
| 06:08:31 | Com[plex] | im from lewiston/auburn |
| 06:08:32 | bewmIES | They're all sorts of stuck up (generally speaking). |
| 06:08:32 | Fastolfe | they're easy to bag tho |
| 06:08:42 | Fastolfe | Com[plex]: no, just passed thru |
| 06:08:47 | Com[plex] | ahh |
| 06:08:50 | Fastolfe | Com[plex]: I'm french goddammit :) |
| 06:08:53 | Com[plex] | they sure feed em well up in bangor |
| 06:08:55 | bewmIES | Poor you. |
| 06:08:59 | Fastolfe | lolol |
| 06:09:10 | bewmIES | My girlfriend is bugging me to take her to France. She spent a semester there last year and wants to go back. |
| 06:09:30 | bewmIES | I may be going over on a business trip in a few months and she's like "I'll be your translat0r!" |
| 06:09:38 | Fastolfe | bewmIES: well well, what a coincidence, I have a very cozy downtown appartment in the south of france for rent :)) |
| 06:10:13 | Com[plex] | hey guys, im gonna post a url in here, - its exactly what it says.. |
| 06:10:14 | Com[plex] | http://www.girlskissing.co.uk/ |
| 06:10:18 | Com[plex] | this site RULES |
| 06:10:21 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 06:10:26 | Com[plex] | its not really porn.. almost.. |
| 06:10:37 | Com[plex] | some parts might be.. but theres no popups anywehere on it |
| 06:10:41 | Fastolfe | My LDS feelings are hurt that you should post such a link on a clean proper channel like this |
| 06:10:55 | Com[plex] | well shoot. dont click that link :> |
| 06:11:26 | whardier | http://www.girlskissing.co.uk/ |
| 06:11:27 | whardier | baba |
| 06:11:29 | whardier | err |
| 06:11:29 | whardier | haha |
| 06:11:30 | Fastolfe | ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? I don't need to click on stinkin link on how to kiss, I'M FRENCH I TOLD YA :) |
| 06:11:47 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 06:11:49 | Fastolfe | we're specialists in all things dirty |
| 06:12:20 | Fastolfe | (not dirty asses tho) |
| 06:12:50 | Fastolfe | Com[plex]: you in the uk > |
| 06:12:51 | Fastolfe | ? |
| 06:12:54 | Com[plex] | no |
| 06:12:57 | Com[plex] | Maine |
| 06:13:02 | Com[plex] | didnt you catch that? |
| 06:13:04 | Fastolfe | Bangor ?? :) |
| 06:13:06 | Fastolfe | lolol |
| 06:13:12 | Com[plex] | Lewiston/Auburn |
| 06:13:17 | Com[plex] | south of bangor by three hours |
| 06:13:18 | Fastolfe | ah yes, i did catch that |
| 06:13:21 | bewmIES | hahahah |
| 06:13:22 | bewmIES | that site is funny |
| 06:13:23 | Com[plex] | k |
| 06:14:07 | Fastolfe | hmm |
| 06:14:20 | Fastolfe | I definitely prefer www.mormon.org to that girlskissing.co.uk one |
| 06:14:25 | Fastolfe | much cleaner |
| 06:15:17 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 06:15:25 | Fastolfe | says a little prayer |
| 06:15:38 | bewmIES | Well since we're pasting totally irrelevent links: http://www.dir-t.org/gallery/work/aad |
| 06:15:52 | bewmIES | A very long night creation |
| 06:16:21 | Fastolfe | you did that ? |
| 06:16:27 | Fastolfe | you must be single |
| 06:16:27 | Com[plex] | www.mormongirlsintrouble.com |
| 06:16:33 | Fastolfe | rotflolol |
| 06:17:11 | whardier | I wanna be a lesbo |
| 06:17:11 | Com[plex] | http://www.catholicschoolgirlsintrouble.com/ |
| 06:17:25 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 06:17:40 | whardier | sneaks off to bed |
| 06:17:41 | whardier | night all |
| 06:17:47 | Fastolfe | check this one out, it's pretty good too : www.latterdaylampoon.com |
| 06:17:51 | Fastolfe | nite whardier |
| 06:18:04 | bewmIES | Over 1.2 million people and only 16 Liquor Stores! |
| 06:18:05 | bewmIES | |
| 06:18:06 | bewmIES | hah |
| 06:18:08 | Fastolfe | yeah |
| 06:18:16 | bewmIES | Fastolfe: No, girlfriend is still in college. :) |
| 06:18:18 | Fastolfe | and I live 500m from one, clever me :) |
| 06:18:26 | Fastolfe | bewmIES: oic |
| 06:18:27 | bewmIES | Start with picture #4 and go in order |
| 06:18:31 | bewmIES | It's a storyline :) |
| 06:18:56 | bewmIES | Did you know that Pepsi gave eEye a shitload of few Dew for all the free marketing they got from naming the virus "Code Red"? |
| 06:19:09 | whardier | http://www.houseofwhacks.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=CD006&reference=/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3Ddress%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DTemplates/women_dresses.html |
| 06:19:10 | whardier | mormons |
| 06:19:50 | Com[plex] | lol |
| 06:19:59 | Fastolfe | lolol |
| 06:20:03 | Fastolfe | convincing |
| 06:20:20 | Fastolfe | spandex mmm mmm |
| 06:20:42 | Com[plex] | what the hell |
| 06:24:00 | whardier | starts humming the buffalo 66 background music to himself |
| 06:27:59 | volkam | do zaurus roms work on an ipaq? |
| 06:28:58 | bewmIES | I'd think not |
| 06:29:09 | Fastolfe | I'm sure not |
| 06:29:18 | Fastolfe | different hardware == different kernel |
| 06:29:19 | volkam | any of you have a zaurus |
| 06:29:31 | Fastolfe | I have both |
| 06:29:46 | volkam | what hardware is differnt? |
| 06:30:16 | Fastolfe | copro for the led and touchscreen for example, keyboard, ... |
| 06:30:49 | Fastolfe | audio |
| 06:30:55 | Fastolfe | sd card |
| 06:31:04 | Fastolfe | usb |
| 06:31:07 | bewmIES | No we don't have Zauruses. We just sit in #zaurus because we like the name of the cannel. :) |
| 06:31:09 | volkam | ok |
| 06:31:13 | bewmIES | channel, too |
| 06:32:29 | volkam | howd you get a zaurus |
| 06:32:32 | volkam | they're not out |
| 06:32:43 | Fastolfe | bewmIES: it's zaur5ii1, not zauruses |
| 06:32:55 | Fastolfe | volkam: yes they are, developer versions |
| 06:33:53 | Fastolfe | anyhow |
| 06:33:55 | Fastolfe | brb |
| 06:34:06 | whardier | elvii |
| 06:35:01 | Fastolfe | poopoos whardier |
| 06:35:42 | Fastolfe | time for a nicotine recharge |
| 06:36:04 | volkam | what bootldr does the zaurus use? |
| 06:36:09 | volkam | like can you drop to a bootldr? |
| 06:36:58 | hrabbey | not easily that I know of. |
| 06:37:03 | volkam | j |
| 06:37:04 | volkam | err k |
| 06:38:15 | volkam | zaurus are 32mb? |
| 06:39:59 | hrabbey | Yep. Dev. version is, split tween RAM and Ram disk. Lots of info on the web pages for ya to look at. |
| 07:36:32 | Com[plex] | hrabby is wrong |
| 07:36:43 | Com[plex] | the devel version is 16 mb rom 32mb ram. |
| 07:37:03 | Com[plex] | but the rom is copied to ram during first boot and whatnot. |
| 07:37:05 | Com[plex] | right? |
| 07:38:41 | bewmIES | The Zaurus has 32mb RAM |
| 07:39:03 | bewmIES | All of the ROMs except 1.11 have it cut in half, 16 for the "OS" and 16 to be used for general purpose RAM |
| 07:39:26 | bewmIES | The OS being the initrd (the "ramdisk" with Qtopia etc.), the kernel, etc, etc... |
| 07:39:57 | bewmIES | The 1.11 ROM has 8MB for the "OS" so developers have more RAM to play with. I'm going to put that ROM on my Z after I invest in a 128mb SD card which will be after I deposit last weeks paycheck. :) |
| 08:03:09 | bewmIES | I'm in and out |
| 08:03:12 | bewmIES | err, wrong window |
| 08:10:10 | altered | anyone around? |
| 08:17:00 | bewmIES | kinda |
| 08:52:46 | bewmIES | Reserve: |
| 09:59:08 | altered | is there a good 802.11 CF adapter that works well with the Z? |
| 14:24:50 | whardier | its -9 degrees and my furnace is not lighting |
| 14:24:53 | whardier | I don't even wanna pee because my hands are too cold |
| 14:28:22 | bipolar | is back (gone 20:51:33) |
| 14:46:42 | scanline | is back (gone 10:33:44) |
| 14:52:34 | scanline | it's snowing here! |
| 15:06:20 | ljp | hey imagine that! its snowing here also! |
| 15:06:51 | scanline | amazing |
| 15:19:27 | whardcold | oh try me |
| 15:20:44 | scanline | furnace still broke? |
| 15:23:02 | ljp | whardcold: start your ove and if its not gas.. open it up |
| 15:23:07 | ljp | oven |
| 15:39:51 | whardcold | ljp Iam just gonna go to work |
| 15:40:15 | whardcold | fuckers do not do anything here until 9:00am |
| 15:40:17 | whardcold | pissesme off |
| 15:41:01 | whardcold | turns on some motion capture software and leaves for the day |
| 15:41:04 | whardcold | I don't trust em either |
| 15:41:26 | whardcold | I highly reccomend apt-get install motion |
| 15:41:36 | whardcold | bbl |
| 15:59:29 | ishmal | anyone know if libSDL has been ported to the Z? |
| 15:59:57 | scanline | SDL can run on the framebuffer, so there's already a chance that it works |
| 16:01:23 | ishmal | the only problem i can see is grabbing the framebuffer from QPE |
| 16:01:54 | scanline | that's easy, just exit qpe |
| 16:02:02 | ishmal | since to work on the Z nicely, it would have to be launched from qpe like everything else |
| 16:02:50 | ishmal | the same problem exists with trying to run GTK apps on the Z |
| 16:03:39 | scanline | or picogui |
| 16:04:15 | scanline | is about ready to kill dotster |
| 16:05:19 | ishmal | would be cool to have a component that is a QtE frame and a GTK frame at the same time, thus providing a bridge |
| 16:05:41 | scanline | well, how about this- |
| 16:06:43 | scanline | an Qt app that creates a fullscreen always-on-top widget to keep Qt from messing with the framebuffer, then it creates a socket in /dev that converts all user input to a format easily used by other software, then runs a specified program |
| 16:06:53 | scanline | it would be useful for any sort of non-Qt framebuffer apps |
| 16:07:57 | ishmal | thats one of the things that sdl does |
| 16:08:12 | ishmal | a generic interface |
| 16:08:23 | scanline | yes, i understand SDL |
| 16:09:28 | ishmal | on freshmeat, there was a GMouse thing, a single api for any mouse, something along that line for all user interaction would be nice |
| 16:10:41 | scanline | at the moment input devices on embedded systems are completely nonstandard... hopefully everyone will migrate to using the kernel's input subsystem, but who knows |
| 16:11:39 | whardcold | augh |
| 16:11:48 | whardier | GUESS WHAT I JUST DID! |
| 16:11:53 | scanline | changed your nick? |
| 16:11:57 | whardier | yup |
| 16:11:59 | whardier | guess what else! |
| 16:12:05 | scanline | got warmed up? |
| 16:12:08 | whardier | sorta |
| 16:12:12 | scanline | uh oh |
| 16:12:13 | whardier | after getting warmed down more |
| 16:12:16 | whardier | had to walk to work |
| 16:12:18 | whardier | augh |
| 16:12:20 | scanline | ugg |
| 16:12:35 | whardier | Fort Collins, CO (80525): 10F and Cloudy (Feels like -7F) |
| 16:12:41 | scanline | hmm... are you using dircproxy? |
| 16:12:43 | whardier | fucking car would not start |
| 16:12:49 | whardier | scanline better :) |
| 16:12:53 | whardier | I use SCREEN |
| 16:12:54 | scanline | screen? |
| 16:12:55 | whardier | heh |
| 16:12:55 | scanline | ok :) |
| 16:12:59 | whardier | that and psybnc |
| 16:13:09 | whardier | that handles all my connectinos very well :) |
| 16:13:43 | whardier | yeah my car was shaking violently |
| 16:13:47 | whardier | I think I forgot antifreeze |
| 16:14:09 | whardier | has a frozen car |
| 16:21:33 | | roge99 was last seen on #zaurus 11 hours, 3 seconds ago, saying: nite all [Mon Feb 25 05:21:30 2002] |
| 16:21:33 | codemnky | ibot seen roge99 |
| 16:21:43 | | codemnky: sorry... |
| 16:21:43 | codemnky | ibot please pay all my bills |
| 16:24:06 | whardier | *yawn* |
| 16:24:19 | scanline | KILLS DOTSTER |
| 16:24:50 | whardier | haha |
| 16:24:51 | whardier | que? |
| 16:24:54 | whardier | use gandi.net |
| 16:25:00 | scanline | their admin interface is STILL down |
| 16:25:49 | whardier | kergoth |
| 16:25:52 | whardier | you missed a lot |
| 16:25:56 | whardier | I got OpenZaurus done |
| 16:25:58 | whardier | its complete now |
| 16:25:59 | scanline | is http://dotster.com/ down for anyone else too? |
| 16:26:02 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:26:02 | whardier | you had nothing to do with it |
| 16:26:04 | kergoth | i often miss a lot |
| 16:26:05 | whardier | hahaha |
| 16:26:06 | scanline | done? |
| 16:26:09 | whardier | no no no |
| 16:26:09 | scanline | updates CVS |
| 16:26:11 | whardier | I am just shitting around |
| 16:26:16 | scanline | :( |
| 16:26:21 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:26:24 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:26:31 | whardier | however scanline gave us something neat! |
| 16:26:38 | whardier | and it impresses the hell out of me :) |
| 16:26:53 | whardier | and I will prolly hack a few things similar into OPIE |
| 16:26:55 | kergoth | which is....? |
| 16:27:15 | whardier | *drum roll* |
| 16:27:20 | whardier | awaits scanlines entrance |
| 16:27:23 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:27:24 | whardier | *drum roll* |
| 16:27:33 | whardier | notices his hands are tiring |
| 16:27:35 | scanline | i tried to send a message to pgui-devel and zaurus-general about it, but i think my email's having dotster-related trouble |
| 16:27:40 | scanline | enters |
| 16:28:01 | whardier | *drum roll* (in eager anticipation of the announcement) |
| 16:28:04 | whardier | blah |
| 16:28:06 | whardier | heh |
| 16:28:16 | whardier | scanline gave us picogui |
| 16:28:23 | scanline | wonders if whardier wants me to announce "picogui's been ported to the zaurus!" |
| 16:28:24 | whardier | it r0x0rs |
| 16:28:26 | whardier | hehe |
| 16:28:43 | scanline | i've got a .tar.gz and some instructions on picogui.org |
| 16:28:50 | whardier | I dig it :) |
| 16:28:54 | scanline | nifty |
| 16:28:56 | kergoth | nice |
| 16:29:01 | whardier | just nice! |
| 16:29:04 | whardier | load it |
| 16:29:07 | ishmal | reason i am wondering about sdl, it might be a way to expedite getting an svg player running on the Z |
| 16:29:15 | whardier | one 1/8 of a second later.. it is up! |
| 16:29:39 | whardier | an sdl output for picogui would be kinda nice don't you think scanline ? |
| 16:29:44 | scanline | nmaps dotster.com |
| 16:29:48 | whardier | an sdl video_driver :) |
| 16:29:55 | scanline | whardier: already got it |
| 16:29:55 | whardier | for sdl |
| 16:29:58 | whardier | this is making no sense |
| 16:29:58 | whardier | heh |
| 16:30:05 | whardier | sdl has X11 drivers/fb so forth |
| 16:30:12 | whardier | does it have a picogui aware one? |
| 16:30:22 | scanline | oh.. for running sdl apps on picogui? not yet |
| 16:30:28 | whardier | that would rule |
| 16:30:29 | whardier | xor |
| 16:30:39 | mandrake | ugh. |
| 16:30:42 | scanline | yes, but i'd need to add a function for apps to mmap bitmaps first |
| 16:30:56 | whardier | gah.. simple right! |
| 16:31:03 | whardier | there needs to be a QT one as well :) |
| 16:31:03 | codemnky | i started a new project called reallyopenzaurus |
| 16:31:08 | whardier | hahaha |
| 16:31:11 | codemnky | :P |
| 16:31:20 | whardier | pokes codemnky |
| 16:31:22 | whardier | thats not nice |
| 16:31:24 | scanline | yeah, but i've been pretty busy with other higher-on-the-todo-list items |
| 16:31:42 | codemnky | imnotkiddingitsreallyopenzaurus.org |
| 16:31:50 | whardier | when you know it is going to be a bad day: |
| 16:31:55 | codemnky | alright, back to work for me |
| 16:31:56 | whardier | all your cats are in the blanket with you |
| 16:31:59 | codemnky | cya |
| 16:32:09 | scanline | bye codemnky |
| 16:32:10 | whardier | you sit up from sleeping and boogers ooze out of your nose at an alarmingly fast rate |
| 16:32:23 | whardier | you realize.. you are naked.. with cats.. and it is 40 degrees indoors |
| 16:32:50 | whardier | you slip on undees |
| 16:32:54 | whardier | then you slip on long johns |
| 16:32:57 | whardier | then you slip on pants |
| 16:32:59 | whardier | then socks |
| 16:33:01 | whardier | then more socks |
| 16:33:07 | whardier | then a thermal shirt |
| 16:33:08 | whardier | then a shirt |
| 16:33:13 | whardier | then a stocking cap |
| 16:33:34 | whardier | then you go to the car just to find out it is frozen and you have to walk to work |
| 16:33:37 | kergoth | whardier: do we really need this level of detail? |
| 16:33:38 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:33:42 | whardier | YES! |
| 16:33:50 | whardier | this is my day BITCH! |
| 16:34:00 | kergoth | fuck that |
| 16:34:04 | kergoth | not your day |
| 16:34:09 | kergoth | hehh |
| 16:34:17 | whardier | this has been a public announcement of my morning so far |
| 16:34:32 | whardier | and I have a meeting at 2:00 on the other side of town and no effective way to get there |
| 16:34:57 | whardier | and I am still freezing and I am at work |
| 16:35:08 | whardier | good news is.. the hot receptionist is looking mighty fine today |
| 16:35:17 | kergoth | heh. that helps |
| 16:35:32 | whardier | and I was able to humbly announce that she had lightened her hair a bit :).. to her surprise that I noticed :) |
| 16:35:57 | whardier | xvncviewer segfault.bogomip.com:1 |
| 16:35:57 | whardier | heh |
| 16:36:06 | scanline | stabs dotster with an extra sharp spork |
| 16:36:08 | kergoth | good work. actually noticing something. hehh |
| 16:36:20 | whardier | thats a motion capture setup I have at home.. I wanna see what the guy coming to fix my furnace does not take off with a 24" monitor |
| 16:36:21 | whardier | heh |
| 16:36:39 | whardier | </babble> |
| 16:36:41 | whardier | <program> |
| 16:44:29 | bipolar | whardier: hmmm... it sounds like you've found a way to keep warm.... ;) |
| 16:45:16 | whardier | which way? |
| 16:46:50 | bipolar | whardier: the hot receptionist.... :) |
| 16:47:03 | bipolar | whardier: got pictures? :) |
| 16:47:06 | bipolar | lol |
| 16:47:14 | whardier | augh |
| 16:47:18 | whardier | no unfortunatly |
| 16:47:29 | whardier | but you would be so messed up by her beauty.. that you would not work for a week |
| 16:47:49 | bipolar | whardier: get pictures. |
| 16:47:54 | whardier | augh |
| 16:47:56 | whardier | hold on |
| 16:48:15 | whardier | could you hold still.. your a hottie and I wana geta picture to show some dude I chat with |
| 16:48:25 | jperlow-sharp | hey dudes. |
| 16:49:16 | whardier | w3rd |
| 16:49:23 | whardier | hows your Zaurus hanging |
| 16:49:40 | bipolar | whardier: that might work for you, actualy. :) |
| 16:49:49 | bipolar | jperlow-sharp: hiya |
| 16:50:01 | whardier | bipolar: I am scanning the File Server |
| 16:50:02 | whardier | heh |
| 16:50:11 | bipolar | jperlow-sharp: what do you know about libqobex? |
| 16:50:44 | bipolar | whardier: I think you could score points if you just ask her. |
| 16:51:53 | whardier | why! |
| 16:52:18 | whardier | I am not getting girl advice from some bipolar dude :) |
| 16:53:12 | bipolar | whardier: well, pointer to my webcam then. :) hehe |
| 16:53:19 | whardier | hahaha |
| 16:53:23 | whardier | what is it anyways |
| 16:53:36 | bipolar | longbros.com/benjamin/webcam2.html |
| 16:53:41 | bipolar | heh |
| 16:54:15 | jperlow-sharp | man it must be fun to be single |
| 16:54:48 | bipolar | jperlow-sharp: not really. :( |
| 16:55:57 | whardier | bipolar is a hawtie |
| 16:56:31 | whardier | heh |
| 16:56:33 | whardier | we have the same jacket |
| 16:57:11 | whardier | I SEE XCHAT! |
| 16:57:16 | bipolar | whardier: hawtie? |
| 16:57:18 | whardier | haha |
| 16:58:38 | whardier | I want a cube |
| 16:59:16 | bipolar | I want a window |
| 16:59:29 | whardier | I have lots of those |
| 17:01:22 | bipolar | I want one that is clear and lets be see outside. |
| 17:01:37 | bipolar | whardier: And I want a picture of the hottie |
| 17:01:43 | bipolar | he |
| 17:01:45 | whardier | I probably have one of the best views of most of the office buildings in fort collins |
| 17:01:50 | whardier | but not of the hawtie |
| 17:01:58 | whardier | damn.. she is right near |
| 17:02:08 | bipolar | whardier: tell her I said hi. |
| 17:02:09 | bipolar | :) |
| 17:02:11 | whardier | haha |
| 17:02:15 | whardier | hey my long friend says hi |
| 17:02:31 | bipolar | WTF... I'm serious. :) |
| 17:02:35 | whardier | No! |
| 17:02:39 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:02:40 | whardier | haha |
| 17:02:50 | bipolar | your no fun |
| 17:02:51 | whardier | sorry but that would be crossing the line around here |
| 17:02:54 | bipolar | fuh |
| 17:03:13 | whardier | if I so much as wink at her I am toasty krispy |
| 17:03:21 | bipolar | that is so sad. |
| 17:03:24 | whardier | they wanna keep her virginized I guess |
| 17:03:36 | whardier | no its harly that strict |
| 17:03:39 | whardier | heh |
| 17:03:40 | scanline | is away: pseudobreakfast |
| 17:03:40 | bipolar | this world sux |
| 17:03:53 | whardier | I just don't wanna let her know I am talking about her online with a bunch of my nerdy buddies :) |
| 17:04:17 | whardier | watches bipolar put down the "sexy programming" pose |
| 17:04:18 | bipolar | whardier: does she have an AIM nick :> |
| 17:04:24 | whardier | I runno |
| 17:04:28 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:04:31 | whardier | let me capture a few packets and I will tell you |
| 17:04:36 | bipolar | hah |
| 17:04:54 | whardier | this is why I wanna get H323 working with the Zaurus |
| 17:04:56 | whardier | and in general |
| 17:05:23 | whardier | hahaha lol like I would ever give you her AIM nick anyways |
| 17:05:31 | whardier | you would be busting out moves for me.. |
| 17:05:32 | whardier | haha |
| 17:06:21 | bipolar | dear <aim nick>: One of your office mates says your real hot. I'd like to beleve him but he has no pictures of you. |
| 17:06:33 | whardier | hahah |
| 17:08:05 | bipolar | whardier: I'll give you the sexy programers pose.... I'll move the camera so that you can see both my monitors.... :) |
| 17:08:48 | whardier | leechers |
| 17:08:49 | whardier | http://vash.umgllc.net/mp3/ |
| 17:09:05 | whardier | oooh dualies! |
| 17:09:26 | whardier | you bastard |
| 17:09:36 | whardier | that used to be my setu |
| 17:10:03 | bipolar | shit. I just shocked my webcam |
| 17:10:08 | bipolar | it's dead now |
| 17:10:12 | bipolar | :\ |
| 17:10:23 | whardier | you broke it |
| 17:10:24 | whardier | hahaha |
| 17:10:28 | bipolar | brb |
| 17:10:28 | whardier | are you running linux? |
| 17:10:35 | whardier | apt-get install motion! |
| 17:10:38 | whardier | s/!// |
| 17:17:25 | bipolar | damnit. |
| 17:17:32 | bipolar | I cant get the camera to work now. |
| 17:17:36 | whardier | at all? |
| 17:17:40 | whardier | haha |
| 17:17:49 | bipolar | the light is on but noone is home. |
| 17:17:54 | whardier | usb? |
| 17:17:58 | bipolar | yeah |
| 17:17:59 | whardier | unplug it.. remove the driver |
| 17:18:11 | bipolar | whardier: I cant rmmod pwc. |
| 17:18:13 | whardier | then let hotplug do the magic andplug it back in |
| 17:18:15 | bipolar | and I did reboot. |
| 17:18:19 | whardier | check it with gqcam |
| 17:18:27 | whardier | haha damn.. what kind of camera? |
| 17:18:39 | bipolar | Philips |
| 17:18:43 | whardier | funky |
| 17:18:49 | whardier | I have a logitech and a creative |
| 17:20:01 | bipolar | thats weird. now it works. |
| 17:20:43 | whardier | theres the sexy bitch! |
| 17:21:03 | bipolar | whardier: you gave her the cam address, right? |
| 17:21:27 | whardier | why would I ever do that |
| 17:21:34 | whardier | she is on the all the way other side of the building |
| 17:21:35 | whardier | heh |
| 17:21:43 | whardier | hold on.. |
| 17:21:50 | whardier | I will set her ip to transparently proxy to it |
| 17:21:58 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:22:01 | whardier | next time she browses the web.. she will see you :) |
| 17:22:31 | bipolar | rotflmao |
| 17:22:48 | whardier | god I am evil |
| 17:22:58 | bipolar | in a good way |
| 17:23:39 | whardier | heh |
| 17:24:11 | bipolar | still wants a picture.... |
| 17:24:14 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:24:56 | whardier | so do I |
| 17:25:15 | bipolar | whardier: you have a digital camera? |
| 17:25:50 | bipolar | whardier: just go around taking random pictures and say they are for the website. :) |
| 17:25:56 | bipolar | hehe. |
| 17:26:01 | bipolar | is evil too |
| 17:28:21 | bewmIES | Okay |
| 17:28:32 | bewmIES | Linux Magazine ran a Zaurus review a few months back |
| 17:28:36 | whardier | gives up and gos for shameless advertising |
| 17:28:43 | bewmIES | Why is the *exact* same one in this months issue? Were they running low on stories or something? |
| 17:28:46 | bewmIES | (Jason wrote it) |
| 17:28:57 | whardier | echo url | smbclient -M mels_workspace |
| 17:28:59 | whardier | heh |
| 17:29:21 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:29:26 | bipolar | that'll work |
| 17:30:07 | bipolar | whardier: You're on the west coast, right? |
| 17:30:12 | whardier | colorado |
| 17:30:19 | bipolar | close enough. |
| 17:30:22 | whardier | bah |
| 17:30:22 | bipolar | :) |
| 17:30:26 | whardier | mine |
| 17:30:36 | whardier | hmm. |
| 17:30:43 | whardier | writes a quick squid redirector :) |
| 17:31:01 | bipolar | IOW... I have about a 1 in 10,000 chance of ever meeting that girl in person. :) |
| 17:31:14 | whardier | haha |
| 17:31:14 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:31:30 | jperlow-sharp | be: Linux Mag printed the Zaurus review TWICE? |
| 17:31:34 | jperlow-sharp | the same one I wrote? |
| 17:31:36 | jperlow-sharp | cant be. |
| 17:32:11 | scanline | is back (gone 00:28:32) |
| 17:34:56 | bipolar | needs to remember to strike a pose every 15 sec... |
| 17:35:10 | whardier | bah |
| 17:35:11 | whardier | hah |
| 17:35:38 | bipolar | whardier: her name is mel? |
| 17:35:45 | whardier | ergh |
| 17:35:52 | whardier | sorry bipolar |
| 17:35:54 | whardier | I dunno her IP |
| 17:35:57 | whardier | haha |
| 17:35:59 | whardier | so sorry |
| 17:36:04 | whardier | Mellisa |
| 17:36:11 | bewmIES | Jason: Yeah, I can take a picture if you want :) |
| 17:36:13 | bipolar | I was just wondering who this email is from... |
| 17:36:17 | bewmIES | It's in the 2/2000 issue that I just got in the mail |
| 17:36:24 | bewmIES | err, 2/02, of course |
| 17:36:45 | bewmIES | It looks like the same. I remember the "like a knight in shining armour" part... |
| 17:36:54 | jperlow-sharp | 2/02 is the zaurus review |
| 17:36:58 | jperlow-sharp | the new issue is 2/03 |
| 17:37:06 | jperlow-sharp | the review did not appear earlier than 2/02 |
| 17:37:18 | bewmIES | Hm, I remmeber reading it before I bought my Z about a month ago |
| 17:37:23 | jperlow-sharp | no way |
| 17:37:25 | bewmIES | Maybe I'm just mistaken. |
| 17:37:37 | bewmIES | brb, digging around the old mags |
| 17:37:37 | jperlow-sharp | LM may have had a short blurb |
| 17:37:49 | jperlow-sharp | not 2 pages on the Z |
| 17:38:10 | jperlow-sharp | cause I wrote that 3 months before it was published |
| 17:38:23 | jperlow-sharp | 3 month lead time |
| 17:39:34 | bipolar | whardier: united media's website sux. |
| 17:40:00 | whardier | true that |
| 17:40:04 | whardier | they will not let me redesign it |
| 17:40:17 | whardier | because they have a graphics artist now |
| 17:40:17 | whardier | heh |
| 17:45:52 | bipolar | hates it when he can't see hot women that others talk about... |
| 17:46:05 | whardier | well foo! |
| 17:46:49 | bipolar | whardier: You need to patch the web site into the CCTV system at your office... lol |
| 17:48:39 | bipolar | Man... this sweater makes me look huge... |
| 17:48:47 | whardier | you are a buff dude |
| 17:49:02 | whardier | should stop watching bipolar |
| 17:49:03 | bipolar | fuck yeah |
| 17:49:07 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:49:12 | whardier | hehe |
| 17:49:33 | whardier | anybody know how to pop3 into HP? |
| 17:49:57 | scanline | is away: class or something |
| 17:51:21 | whardier | cannot tear himself away from bipolars giant pecs! |
| 17:51:38 | whardier | WHERE DO YOU LIVE BIG BOY! |
| 17:52:22 | bipolar | yipe |
| 17:52:38 | whardier | haha |
| 17:52:42 | whardier | that was so scooby doo |
| 17:52:53 | whardier | hi |
| 17:52:56 | whardier | I am cell phone man |
| 17:52:57 | whardier | lalala |
| 17:52:59 | whardier | laaa la laaa |
| 17:53:01 | bipolar | whardier: hehe |
| 17:53:01 | bewmIES | Jason: Guess I'm wrong then. All I know is that I was holding,in my hand, the exact same article that in the 2/2002 issue about two days before I gbought my Z at the start of Feb |
| 17:53:09 | whardier | I am gonna do a time laps of you |
| 17:53:10 | whardier | haha |
| 17:53:11 | whardier | sucker |
| 17:53:16 | whardier | you better turn that thing off |
| 17:53:16 | bewmIES | Which I can't find, so I'll just give up. Not enough time to look hard. :) |
| 17:53:46 | bipolar | whardier: I hate it when you rub your face and it looks like you're picking your nose for 15sec. |
| 17:53:57 | whardier | haha |
| 17:53:59 | whardier | you are tho |
| 17:54:22 | whardier | my webcam is duller |
| 17:54:26 | whardier | vnc to segfault.bogomip.com |
| 17:54:28 | whardier | :1 |
| 17:54:29 | whardier | heh |
| 17:54:35 | whardier | hehe |
| 17:54:39 | whardier | air whacking? |
| 17:54:43 | bipolar | whardier: whats the pw? |
| 17:54:46 | whardier | no pw |
| 17:54:53 | whardier | just xvncviewer segfault.bogomip.com:1 |
| 17:55:13 | whardier | keep it on your screen |
| 17:55:13 | bipolar | fuzzy... |
| 17:55:20 | whardier | I wanna see my webcam off of your monitor |
| 17:55:43 | bipolar | I'm pointing at it. |
| 17:55:50 | whardier | nuh uh |
| 17:56:07 | whardier | is using feh to look at your webcam |
| 17:56:21 | bipolar | huh |
| 17:56:42 | bipolar | your webcam's clock is not moving... |
| 17:56:47 | whardier | which screen is my screen on? |
| 17:56:53 | whardier | bipolar its motion activated |
| 17:57:12 | bipolar | whardier: it's on the one on my right. |
| 17:57:24 | whardier | too blurry |
| 17:57:26 | whardier | oh well |
| 17:57:27 | whardier | I will live |
| 17:57:31 | whardier | that is at home |
| 17:57:31 | ljp_work | that web cam is boring |
| 17:57:33 | whardier | I am at work |
| 17:57:36 | whardier | I am spying ont he cats |
| 17:57:48 | whardier | ljp_work it gets more exciting when I forget that it is on! |
| 17:57:53 | bipolar | whardier: you need on pointed at the hot woman. |
| 17:57:54 | ljp_work | :) |
| 17:58:15 | whardier | I sure do |
| 17:58:19 | whardier | all the time |
| 17:58:23 | bipolar | hehe |
| 17:58:25 | whardier | I bet she plays with herself a lot |
| 17:58:30 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:58:31 | whardier | because you know.. they do that |
| 17:58:43 | bipolar | whardier: you need to get a girlfriend. |
| 17:58:46 | whardier | true that |
| 17:58:51 | whardier | I found a potential |
| 17:58:54 | whardier | she hates my pants |
| 17:59:00 | whardier | so it might not go over well |
| 17:59:16 | bipolar | whardier: why would you be wearing pants? |
| 17:59:24 | whardier | habit |
| 18:00:00 | bipolar | whardier: get a kilt man! |
| 18:00:26 | whardier | my webcam just got a lot more interesting :) |
| 18:00:37 | bipolar | whardier: screen saver... |
| 18:00:40 | whardier | hahaha |
| 18:00:53 | bipolar | whardier: www.utilikilt.com |
| 18:01:21 | whardier | quit beeping me |
| 18:01:27 | bipolar | whardier: huh? |
| 18:01:29 | whardier | heh |
| 18:01:40 | whardier | hahaha |
| 18:01:48 | bipolar | whardier: that gives me an idea... |
| 18:02:06 | bipolar | whardier: I could use the java VNC viewer to view the webcam from my webpage. |
| 18:02:06 | whardier | xhosts -'s |
| 18:02:25 | bipolar | I wonder how I would do that... |
| 18:02:29 | whardier | have you installed motion! |
| 18:02:37 | whardier | I have a great script for taking care of all of this! |
| 18:02:40 | bipolar | whardier: motion? |
| 18:02:41 | whardier | its really simple |
| 18:02:42 | whardier | heh |
| 18:02:44 | whardier | apt-get install motion |
| 18:02:58 | bipolar | runs redhat |
| 18:03:03 | whardier | reformat |
| 18:03:05 | whardier | run debian |
| 18:03:07 | whardier | apt-get install motion |
| 18:03:22 | whardier | every time it captures a frame I tell the config file to run this |
| 18:03:23 | whardier | [-(Mon 2002-02-25 11:04:45)-(~/)-]> cat /data/motion/onsavescript.sh |
| 18:03:23 | whardier | #!/bin/sh |
| 18:03:23 | whardier | rm /data/motion/lastsnap2.jpg |
| 18:03:23 | whardier | ln -s $1 /data/motion/lastsnap2.jpg |
| 18:03:23 | whardier | DISPLAY=:1 |
| 18:03:25 | whardier | Esetroot /data/motion/lastsnap2.jpg |
| 18:03:31 | bipolar | whardier: wheres the home page? |
| 18:03:39 | whardier | motion.sourceforge.net |
| 18:03:40 | whardier | I think |
| 18:03:54 | whardier | yeah |
| 18:03:55 | whardier | thats it |
| 18:03:57 | whardier | it is amazing |
| 18:04:04 | whardier | I have been using it to document a carbon fiber shop |
| 18:04:54 | bipolar | roge99: your connection sucks... |
| 18:04:58 | whardier | no |
| 18:05:05 | whardier | I prolly have like 10 people watching it |
| 18:05:13 | whardier | vnc sucks :) |
| 18:05:34 | whardier | be carefull with motion.. otherwise all your cpu power just went toward motino recognition |
| 18:05:34 | whardier | heh |
| 18:05:43 | whardier | s/motino/motion/ |
| 18:06:13 | whardier | 30fps 320x240x65536color stuff is not supposed to be in VNC |
| 18:06:13 | whardier | heh |
| 18:06:48 | whardier | heh |
| 18:06:55 | whardier | that will confuse him when he gets back |
| 18:09:10 | whardier | I am gonna go ask the hawtie secretary for a little change |
| 18:09:10 | whardier | heh |
| 18:11:15 | ljp_work | change of pants? |
| 18:11:32 | bipolar | bbl.... lunch |
| 18:11:56 | whardier | heh |
| 18:11:59 | whardier | you see you! |
| 18:12:14 | whardier | magically.. gone1 |
| 18:15:11 | whardier | magically.. gone! |
| 18:17:29 | weimer | is away: I'm busy |
| 18:22:36 | whardier | quit that |
| 18:22:42 | whardier | hehehe |
| 18:23:56 | whardier | hehe |
| 18:24:08 | whardier | damn you |
| 18:24:16 | whardier | scanline quit it |
| 18:24:39 | whardier | hehehe |
| 18:28:37 | scanline | is back (gone 00:38:40) |
| 18:43:52 | whardier | awurd |
| 18:47:12 | MEGASTeP | is back (gone 62:13:45) |
| 18:50:30 | whardier | scanline were you picking on my poor VNC! |
| 18:52:36 | Neo|Work | Please download Eligo 1.0b5: http://eongames.com/ |
| 18:52:41 | Neo|Work | (buy it too of course ;-)) |
| 18:58:56 | warmi | Neo|Work: so Eligo was your entry for the contest ? |
| 18:59:00 | Neo|Work | yah |
| 18:59:17 | Neo|Work | I started on the sharp version 1 week before the beta entry deadline |
| 18:59:58 | warmi | I did something similar except it is only one game , not set of games |
| 19:00:00 | Neo|Work | the real contest deadline is getting to be really close |
| 19:00:29 | Neo|Work | been working on a desktop version for quite some time before this |
| 19:00:53 | warmi | well, I wrote mine just for the contest |
| 19:01:19 | warmi | but I started two months ago .. not a week before deadline :-) |
| 19:01:47 | Neo|Work | heh |
| 19:02:01 | Neo|Work | The Z version was a rewrite except for some key functionality |
| 19:02:17 | Neo|Work | it's now more advanced than the desktop version (more features, games, "effects" etc |
| 19:03:47 | warmi | does it have sound ? |
| 19:03:54 | Neo|Work | no. It's one of the TODO items |
| 19:04:03 | Neo|Work | code is in there but disabled. Never got it to work on the dev environment |
| 19:04:16 | Neo|Work | probably some issue with my sound card driver (SB Live) |
| 19:04:39 | Neo|Work | and I don't actually have a Z to test it on |
| 19:06:33 | whardier | Hallo |
| 19:06:40 | warmi | should have tested it on windows like I did :-) |
| 19:07:17 | Neo|Work | windows? you gotta be kidding me. ;-) |
| 19:07:45 | warmi | that is a beaty of Qt ,,, you can write your software on any of these platforms |
| 19:08:46 | warmi | http://www.warmi.net/images/game.jpg |
| 19:08:54 | warmi | screenshot of my entry ;-) |
| 19:09:16 | warmi | fonst are screwed up because it was compiled on Windows at that stage |
| 19:10:33 | Neo|Work | looks nice. What is the goal? |
| 19:11:15 | warmi | it is something like old game for amiga or Brix for pc |
| 19:11:27 | warmi | hard to explain but there is a demo mode that shows what to do |
| 19:11:41 | whardier | or vexed for the palm? |
| 19:11:41 | warmi | easy to pick up, hard to explain :-) |
| 19:11:49 | warmi | yeah, something like that |
| 19:11:55 | whardier | I like vexed |
| 19:12:00 | whardier | I wanna play your game now :) |
| 19:12:01 | whardier | gimme |
| 19:12:04 | warmi | except it has all kinds of new things like moveable platforms, traps etc |
| 19:12:29 | ljp_work | can it do my dishes? |
| 19:12:44 | whardier | codemonger@bogomip.com |
| 19:12:44 | whardier | bbl |
| 19:12:54 | warmi | who knows what kind of bugs I have there ljp .. could be |
| 19:14:07 | warmi | whardier: you can download X86 binary for Linux or src at: ftp://ftp.warmi.net/public/ |
| 19:14:34 | warmi | it was beta version with only 20 levels |
| 19:14:50 | warmi | Neo|Work: how much does your game cost ? |
| 19:16:21 | Neo|Work | warmi: I was thinking $14.95 but it depends on how it's received of course |
| 19:16:43 | warmi | yeah, that sounds reasonable |
| 19:17:07 | Neo|Work | I compared to Pocket PC games @ handango and many were $20+ which I find too expensive |
| 19:17:20 | warmi | your game looks cool ... it shows you had somebody with graphic skills |
| 19:17:30 | Neo|Work | Yeps. :) Not me. ;-) |
| 19:17:42 | Neo|Work | well, I did some of the embedded graphics like buttons and such but.. |
| 19:17:58 | Neo|Work | http://david.hedbor.org/tmp/screenshots.html <= desktop version |
| 19:18:06 | warmi | how big is your X86 binary ? |
| 19:18:51 | Neo|Work | lemme check.. :P |
| 19:21:21 | warmi | I had mine at 500 ( beta) then realized that it was way too much so managed to get it down to 200+ Kb |
| 19:22:01 | Neo|Work | warmi: it's pretty cool |
| 19:22:17 | Neo|Work | 140632 bytes |
| 19:22:59 | warmi | does it include your image files ? |
| 19:23:28 | Neo|Work | no, that's binary size |
| 19:23:45 | warmi | I compiled mine into binary and have only wavs as a separate files ( and that's only because Qt does not support embedded sounds) |
| 19:24:13 | Neo|Work | I have two themes, and images are separate (png). |
| 19:24:40 | warmi | so , more less, how much space will be needed to install your game ? |
| 19:25:52 | bipolar | whardier: awake? |
| 19:26:50 | peanut | waves |
| 19:27:04 | Neo|Work | warmi: I'd say about 250 KB for one theme |
| 19:27:30 | Neo|Work | but depending on the block size of the storage etc it might use more space |
| 19:27:46 | warmi | I understand you guys don't have zaurus and hoping to get one from Trolltech ? |
| 19:28:26 | warmi | by you guys I mean Eon Games |
| 19:29:14 | Neo|Work | yah |
| 19:29:54 | Neo|Work | if not, I hope to sell eligo once the Z 5500 is out so that I can buy one |
| 19:30:14 | warmi | hehe, well my game is under BSD license so I won't be selling it |
| 19:30:30 | warmi | but I will buy Zaurus anyway ... unless of course I get one |
| 19:31:23 | bipolar | whardier: ping |
| 19:33:24 | Neo|Work | warmi: you can always sell binaries. :-)) |
| 19:33:59 | whardier | hi bipolar |
| 19:34:20 | bipolar | whardier: :) |
| 19:34:26 | warmi | yeah, I probably could |
| 19:34:42 | bipolar | whardier: wo you have your webcam using vnc to display. It's just Xvnc right? |
| 19:35:13 | Neo|Work | especially since I doubt a majority of the Z users will compile their own apps. Same with the Palm platform, not to mention Windows |
| 19:35:26 | bipolar | whardier: I think I'm going to use the java app to display from a webbrowser. I just need a 50' long usb extention to reach the webserver. :) |
| 19:35:29 | whardier | Xvnc -geomertry 320x240 -depth 24 -ac :) |
| 19:35:35 | whardier | I am on right now |
| 19:35:36 | whardier | hehe |
| 19:35:40 | whardier | my house is warmer |
| 19:35:51 | bipolar | whardier: so, you took her home then? |
| 19:35:56 | bipolar | bastard |
| 19:35:59 | warmi | NeoWork: yeah I know but I just don't have a time to set up payments etc .. |
| 19:36:12 | warmi | I make enough at my day job |
| 19:36:14 | bipolar | whardier: at least now you can get pictures. |
| 19:36:22 | whardier | bipolar no.. hehe |
| 19:36:30 | whardier | I took nobody home |
| 19:36:35 | whardier | she gave me a free pop tho! |
| 19:36:41 | whardier | it was cherry |
| 19:36:46 | whardier | I love Cherry Coke |
| 19:36:50 | bipolar | whardier: lol... cherry is good. :) |
| 19:37:07 | whardier | damn vnc gets slow |
| 19:37:29 | whardier | xvncviewer segfault.bogomip.com:1 |
| 19:37:45 | bipolar | wonders if he should make a smart ass comment about taking the secritaries cherry... |
| 19:37:45 | warmi | Neo|Work:Work: have you had somebody test your binary with Zaurus ? |
| 19:37:46 | Neo|Work | warmi: actually, that's painless. I use paypal on my site (not perfect, but works) and handango does it all for you |
| 19:38:00 | Neo|Work | warmi: people have run it on the Z and ipaqs too |
| 19:38:19 | bipolar | whardier: lol.... |
| 19:38:20 | whardier | bipolar she offered |
| 19:38:31 | warmi | I am yet to crosscompile mine |
| 19:38:33 | bipolar | whardier: nice cat |
| 19:38:43 | warmi | Will do that this week , before deadline |
| 19:39:00 | whardier | danke |
| 19:39:01 | Neo|Work | warmi: I had some issues initially, mainly the use of STL |
| 19:39:14 | warmi | anyway, looks like even if I get zaurus from Trolls I won't be able to test it before the deadline |
| 19:39:53 | warmi | I don't use STL ... not on zaurus |
| 19:39:58 | whardier | damn cat |
| 19:40:13 | bipolar | ahh.. a black one too... |
| 19:40:14 | Neo|Work | warmi: right, thet also got a lot of entries it seems |
| 19:40:19 | warmi | since I am not planing to port it to Palm or anywhere else I happy with Qt classes |
| 19:40:34 | warmi | I heard from someone they 1000+ or so |
| 19:40:52 | whardier | hehehe |
| 19:40:58 | bipolar | whardier: you're number one. |
| 19:41:02 | whardier | haha |
| 19:41:04 | Neo|Work | I actually ported STL => QT classes and then away from containers |
| 19:41:09 | whardier | oooh |
| 19:41:11 | bipolar | whardier: that cam is the shit. |
| 19:41:19 | bipolar | whardier: I must make this now... |
| 19:41:23 | whardier | haha |
| 19:41:24 | Neo|Work | since using a couple of qmap etc increased the binary size from 70 to 150 KB or so for a while |
| 19:41:40 | whardier | oh shit |
| 19:41:45 | whardier | 5 vnc viewers running after me |
| 19:41:47 | whardier | haha |
| 19:41:47 | warmi | use qdict then :-) |
| 19:41:48 | whardier | ahhhh |
| 19:42:02 | bipolar | whardier: I just need to get the connection up. I guess I'll just run a remote X app in the vnc viewer to display the cam. |
| 19:42:05 | whardier | here is some love |
| 19:42:21 | bipolar | whardier: what app are you running to display in Xvnc? |
| 19:42:30 | warmi | anyway .. time to get something to eat .... good luck Neo|Work |
| 19:42:30 | bipolar | whardier: same to you buddy! :) |
| 19:42:31 | whardier | did you install motion? |
| 19:42:31 | Neo|Work | warmi: I use rewrote some stuff to use plain C arrays (with the key being an enum) instead of map |
| 19:42:42 | Neo|Work | plus I wrote some simple dumb "mapping " class |
| 19:42:46 | Neo|Work | warmi: ditto. :) |
| 19:42:51 | whardier | I need to get the locking done real quick |
| 19:42:59 | whardier | hold on bipolor I have an onsave.sh |
| 19:51:17 | whardier | Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server |
| 19:51:17 | whardier | Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached |
| 19:51:17 | whardier | xhost: unable to open display ":1" |
| 19:51:18 | whardier | haha |
| 19:53:02 | whardier | ahh much better |
| 19:53:10 | whardier | bipolar install feh |
| 19:53:19 | bipolar | whardier: huh? |
| 19:53:33 | whardier | feh |
| 19:53:41 | bipolar | feh? |
| 19:53:44 | whardier | what part of feh do you not understand! |
| 19:53:54 | bipolar | WTF is feh? |
| 19:53:57 | whardier | damn fast image viewer :) |
| 19:54:00 | whardier | damn fast |
| 19:54:20 | whardier | try my vnc again |
| 19:54:23 | whardier | it should be LOTS faster |
| 19:54:44 | bipolar | lol |
| 19:54:47 | bipolar | it's tiny now. |
| 19:54:54 | whardier | how much of me do you really need to se? |
| 19:54:56 | whardier | see? |
| 19:54:57 | whardier | heh |
| 19:55:00 | whardier | and I am using feh now |
| 19:55:00 | whardier | heh |
| 19:55:11 | whardier | did you install motion? |
| 19:55:25 | bipolar | whardier: no... I need to do a lot of stuff |
| 19:55:29 | whardier | oh |
| 19:55:32 | bipolar | :P |
| 19:55:33 | whardier | bug me when you do |
| 19:55:40 | whardier | if you wanna get VNC working |
| 19:55:40 | bipolar | whardier: where is feh? |
| 19:55:42 | whardier | like RIGHT NOW |
| 19:55:49 | bipolar | hehehe |
| 19:55:57 | whardier | Xvnc -geometry 160x120 -depth 24 -ac & |
| 19:56:02 | whardier | then use feeh |
| 19:56:05 | whardier | feh |
| 19:56:06 | whardier | heh |
| 19:56:27 | whardier | export the display |
| 19:56:29 | whardier | feh -R 1 /data/motion/lastsnap2.jpg -g 160x120 |
| 19:56:39 | whardier | or in your case http://blah.webcam.jpg |
| 19:56:42 | whardier | it can do urls |
| 19:57:14 | bipolar | whardier: whats the best version of motion? |
| 19:57:20 | bipolar | stable? |
| 19:57:40 | whardier | check this out :) |
| 19:57:50 | bipolar | wtf.... |
| 19:57:58 | bipolar | lol |
| 19:58:01 | bipolar | hahahaha |
| 19:58:11 | bipolar | your wacked man |
| 19:58:15 | bipolar | rotflmao |
| 19:58:33 | whardier | see my sexy ear |
| 19:58:39 | whardier | eh |
| 19:58:41 | whardier | pretty sexy |
| 19:58:46 | bipolar | yeah.... whats growing out of it? |
| 19:58:50 | whardier | I have something cooler |
| 19:58:51 | whardier | heh |
| 19:58:55 | whardier | that is my brain probe |
| 19:59:10 | bipolar | ok... I built motion. |
| 19:59:38 | bipolar | how are you doing that? |
| 19:59:40 | whardier | coool |
| 19:59:48 | whardier | its an X server dumbass |
| 19:59:48 | bipolar | that is so cool |
| 20:00:10 | bipolar | are you just piping stuff to the viewer or what? |
| 20:00:15 | whardier | no |
| 20:00:19 | whardier | running feh |
| 20:00:27 | whardier | then just running stuff on top of feh |
| 20:00:27 | bipolar | WHERE IS FEH? |
| 20:00:30 | whardier | feh! |
| 20:00:38 | whardier | apt-get insatll feh!@ |
| 20:00:49 | whardier | hehehe |
| 20:01:14 | bipolar | it's not at feh.com.... thats for sure. |
| 20:01:32 | whardier | wimfiles.com != winfiles.com |
| 20:02:17 | whardier | http://freshmeat.net/projects/feh |
| 20:02:27 | bipolar | whardier: yo bastard... konq just crashed on that sites broken javascript... |
| 20:02:35 | whardier | I didn't make it |
| 20:02:41 | whardier | you are gonna love this |
| 20:02:42 | bipolar | hehe....darn |
| 20:03:46 | bipolar | love what? |
| 20:04:29 | tux_mike | crap!! |
| 20:04:36 | whardier | whats yourlove this |
| 20:04:36 | tux_mike | my phone holster just broke |
| 20:04:44 | bipolar | lol |
| 20:04:49 | bipolar | hahaha |
| 20:04:52 | whardier | feh -R 5 http://longbros.com/benjamin/webcam.jpg -g 160x120 |
| 20:05:06 | tux_mike | now where's the other half... flew across the room |
| 20:05:16 | whardier | tux_mike HAHAHA |
| 20:06:13 | tux_mike | sonofa! now i needa get a new one. |
| 20:07:59 | bipolar | akk.... dep hell |
| 20:07:59 | whardier | on feh |
| 20:08:07 | whardier | you need imlib2 |
| 20:08:17 | whardier | the idea is that it is memory effeciant and FAST! |
| 20:08:34 | whardier | gets everybody in trouble |
| 20:09:12 | bipolar | whardier: I want to have exactly what you have but in a frame on my web page. :) |
| 20:09:23 | whardier | haha |
| 20:09:26 | whardier | use the java vnc viewer |
| 20:09:29 | whardier | like you said |
| 20:09:39 | whardier | basically set feh to reload with the -R option |
| 20:09:44 | whardier | and make it go on the display :) |
| 20:09:47 | whardier | use -g to resize |
| 20:10:22 | whardier | contimplates running porn over the thing |
| 20:10:32 | whardier | who wants to be fired! |
| 20:11:25 | bipolar | x.X |
| 20:12:09 | Neo|Work | Submit final application, (in Zaurus ipk and/or a tgz/rpm for x86 file format) to the judges by March 4th 2002. |
| 20:12:25 | Neo|Work | hmm, you don't actually need to make it an ipk? Has that changed or was it always like that? |
| 20:13:24 | whardier | finds a cat' |
| 20:14:53 | bipolar | whardier: do you know a way to make Xvnc viewonly? |
| 20:15:40 | whardier | -viewonly |
| 20:15:52 | whardier | oops |
| 20:15:53 | whardier | heh |
| 20:15:59 | whardier | not in tightvnc |
| 20:18:31 | whardier | ima drunk! |
| 20:18:49 | whardier | boredom |
| 20:18:50 | whardier | strikes |
| 20:18:53 | whardier | the unweary |
| 20:19:22 | bipolar | whardier: got vnc up... now to run feh |
| 20:19:32 | whardier | feh |
| 20:20:47 | whardier | did motion come up? |
| 20:21:32 | bipolar | akkk |
| 20:21:35 | whardier | akk? |
| 20:21:50 | bipolar | how do I export feh to display on another X? |
| 20:21:53 | bipolar | -display? |
| 20:21:59 | Neo|Work | anyone owns a Visor Edge? |
| 20:22:06 | whardier | EXPORT |
| 20:22:06 | whardier | heh |
| 20:22:22 | Neo|Work | bah, wrong channel |
| 20:22:32 | whardier | IMA BUFFY LIKE BIPOLAR! |
| 20:22:45 | bipolar | wtf |
| 20:23:03 | whardier | wonders if he is amuzing anybody |
| 20:23:04 | whardier | heh |
| 20:23:17 | whardier | best thing about motion |
| 20:23:21 | whardier | if you have ucbmpeg installed |
| 20:23:21 | bipolar | whardier: how do I export this. I'm having a brain fart. |
| 20:23:32 | whardier | it will encode mpegs of all of it |
| 20:23:56 | Hellaenergy | /opt/Embedix/tools/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.2/include/limits.h:124: limits.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:23:59 | bipolar | whardier: I have motion |
| 20:24:06 | whardier | too |
| 20:24:07 | whardier | see |
| 20:24:09 | Hellaenergy | what does that tell everybody |
| 20:24:22 | bipolar | Hellaenergy: lol |
| 20:24:23 | whardier | that you are a stinky poo |
| 20:24:25 | Hellaenergy | Its there though |
| 20:24:38 | Hellaenergy | I am positive of it |
| 20:24:39 | bipolar | Hellaenergy: good luck with that one... :) |
| 20:24:55 | Hellaenergy | Youve had the same problem? |
| 20:25:03 | bipolar | Hellaenergy: nope |
| 20:25:25 | Hellaenergy | Why do you say goodluck then? |
| 20:26:27 | bipolar | whardier: longbros.com:0 |
| 20:26:40 | bipolar | whardier: now how do I use motion? |
| 20:27:04 | whardier | its a funky setup |
| 20:27:10 | whardier | fist of all what res are your images? |
| 20:27:25 | bipolar | whardier: ipaq size. |
| 20:27:27 | whardier | should prepare for a meeting he is about to have |
| 20:30:56 | Hellaenergy | Any body have any advise for this poor lost soul? |
| 20:31:21 | whardier | damn you all |
| 20:32:02 | whardier | wonders where the no ok button is in xmessage |
| 20:32:50 | fusion94 | is away: smoke break |
| 20:33:11 | bipolar | whardier: how do I use motion? |
| 20:33:30 | whardier | hmm |
| 20:33:31 | bipolar | whardier: got a script I can look at? |
| 20:33:34 | whardier | its pretty straightforward |
| 20:33:41 | whardier | a config? |
| 20:33:49 | bipolar | whardier: I'm clueless |
| 20:34:30 | bipolar | i'm trying: |
| 20:34:32 | bipolar | ./motion -L -d /dev/video0 -s 320x240 |
| 20:34:32 | whardier | http://segfault.bogomip.com/motion.conf |
| 20:34:52 | whardier | http://segfault.bogomip.com/onsavescript.sh |
| 20:34:55 | whardier | AAAAND |
| 20:35:00 | whardier | mition -c motion.conf |
| 20:35:05 | whardier | from /data/motion/ |
| 20:35:10 | whardier | you can change the from around |
| 20:35:21 | whardier | you will notice it changes permissions of all the files |
| 20:35:24 | bipolar | ahh |
| 20:35:26 | whardier | so either make your user video worthy |
| 20:35:35 | whardier | or be root |
| 20:35:36 | whardier | BBL |
| 20:35:43 | bipolar | whardier: thanks. bye |
| 20:35:51 | whardier | :) |
| 20:42:09 | fusion94 | is back (gone 00:09:18) |
| 21:34:21 | warmi | NeoWork: could you post URL to your game site again ? |
| 21:38:23 | Neo|Work | warmi: http://eongames.com/ => if you want an x86 version I can do that |
| 21:39:50 | warmi | yeah, if you have I would like to take a look at X86 qtopia binary |
| 21:43:39 | ljp_work | funny how one bad bool can ruin your day... |
| 21:43:44 | Neo|Work | http://david.hedbor.org/downloads/eligo_1.0b5_x86.tar.gz |
| 21:45:30 | warmi | I am getting error msg |
| 21:45:56 | warmi | http://david.hedbor.org/downloads/ returns two files but niether of them is eligo |
| 21:46:22 | Neo|Work | ouch |
| 21:46:30 | Neo|Work | http://eongames.com/downloads/eligo_1.0b5_x86.tar.gz |
| 21:46:32 | Neo|Work | sorry, habit |
| 21:46:47 | kergoth | growls at the sarien codebase |
| 21:47:10 | warmi | it worked , thanks |
| 21:47:21 | kergoth | every single malloc, calloc, and realloc in the code has its type implicitly converted rather than casting. |
| 21:48:06 | warmi | Neo... do you have any game saving or score saving features in your game ? |
| 21:48:57 | Neo|Work | have highscores, save game feature planned |
| 21:49:20 | Neo|Work | or some type of saved state which you can continue, rather |
| 21:49:30 | warmi | I am asking because I have no idea where on zaurus would you put hidden save-game files |
| 21:49:55 | warmi | right now I am just using $HOME/puzz-le |
| 21:50:23 | warmi | I wonder if this will work on zaurus , I heard that /root is read only there |
| 21:50:24 | Neo|Work | well, I save the scores using the Config class in the standard Config directory |
| 21:50:46 | Neo|Work | I too have wondered about to do such things on the Z in a "proper" way |
| 21:51:31 | mandrake | it would be nice if Config were migrated back into Qt so that you wouldn't have to write one version of Qt and one for Qt/E |
| 21:51:52 | mandrake | i.e. I'm reading / writing text files in my X version, and using Config in the Qt/E version |
| 21:52:21 | warmi | well, config is nice but won't work for saving game levels in progress |
| 21:52:29 | mandrake | warmi: why not? |
| 21:52:48 | warmi | cause it is binary file |
| 21:53:29 | mandrake | you can dump binary information into config |
| 21:53:36 | mandrake | just learn to cast :) |
| 21:53:58 | bipolar_away | is away: I'm not here... Really.... |
| 21:53:59 | warmi | hmm .... btw you are right it would be nice to have COnfig in Qt |
| 21:54:10 | Neo|Work | mandrake: I do. Using base64 encoding |
| 21:54:26 | warmi | I was writing my game on Windows using standard Qt , that is why I ended up with wiriting to binary file |
| 21:54:37 | Neo|Work | because there is actually no way (other than char by char) to create a binary QString |
| 21:55:05 | mandrake | I gotta figure out how you do socket programming under win32. |
| 21:55:11 | Neo|Work | warmi: so hint of the day: base64 encode your binary data and save using Config |
| 21:55:11 | mandrake | so I can make a win32 port of my game |
| 21:55:16 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 21:55:20 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 21:55:21 | Neo|Work | mandrake: what game is that? |
| 21:55:25 | scanline | is really back this time |
| 21:55:37 | mandrake | Neo|Work: it's a pvp missile command style game |
| 21:55:48 | warmi | socket under windows ? #include "winsock.h" and you are done |
| 21:55:49 | Neo|Work | warmi: I can give you some base64 code that works with Qt (i.e QString and what not) |
| 21:56:00 | mandrake | warmi: I'm not a win32 programmer. |
| 21:56:04 | Neo|Work | warmi: theoretically perhaps. :P |
| 21:56:24 | warmi | Winsock is basically BSD socket code |
| 21:56:31 | mandrake | excellent |
| 21:56:42 | warmi | with some stuff added like non-blocking sockets with GUI style messages etc |
| 21:56:53 | Neo|Work | but I know of several "misfeatures" (don't ask me what, just know some things don't work "as expected" |
| 21:57:19 | warmi | Neo|Work: you know what .... I will try to figure out how to save files on zaurus, I will need that for the future anyway |
| 21:57:41 | Neo|Work | lemme know if you want the base64 code. Certainly makes saving binary data easier |
| 21:57:59 | warmi | sure, I will let you know |
| 21:58:07 | warmi | I know already :-) |
| 21:58:12 | warmi | can you send me your code .. |
| 21:58:14 | Neo|Work | the code wasn't written by me but it's free to use for whatever purpose |
| 22:00:37 | warmi | on the other hand Config is like old *.ini on windows ... |
| 22:00:43 | Neo|Work | they are yes |
| 22:00:55 | warmi | it is rather wastefull trying to save sequential file without any keys |
| 22:01:06 | Neo|Work | sure. |
| 22:01:06 | warmi | I mean one could use line numbers as keys but that seems wastefull |
| 22:01:19 | Neo|Work | I have one key per highscore |
| 22:02:11 | Neo|Work | http://eongames.com/downloads/base64.tgz |
| 22:02:26 | Neo|Work | note that the encoder either uses char* + length or a QByteArray |
| 22:02:41 | Neo|Work | it's because I used it for binary data and I couldn't create a QString using that data |
| 22:02:54 | Neo|Work | which is the reason I needed base64 to begin with (I'd rather not use it. |
| 22:03:36 | warmi | thanks |
| 22:05:45 | warmi | I see you store yout theme definition files in $QTOPIA/pics/appname |
| 22:05:53 | Neo|Work | yeps |
| 22:06:04 | Neo|Work | since that's a path which I knew I could get |
| 22:06:09 | warmi | hehe |
| 22:06:11 | Neo|Work | and it kinda makes sense too in a way |
| 22:06:53 | warmi | yeah, it does |
| 22:07:12 | Neo|Work | I agree that paths and stuff is the hardest thing really. |
| 22:07:18 | warmi | I am gonna have to post explicit question about this stuff on Qtopia list |
| 22:07:30 | Neo|Work | I've seen such issues brought up before |
| 22:07:37 | Neo|Work | don't know if there's been any definite answers |
| 22:07:47 | warmi | maybe Warwick will have something to say |
| 22:07:57 | warmi | I brought it up before :-) |
| 22:09:00 | warmi | Hey Neo: you guys using QDirectPainter in your game or just plain widget ? |
| 22:09:13 | Neo|Work | Plain painter. didn't know of QDirectPainter |
| 22:09:24 | Neo|Work | and it doesn't seem to be documented either |
| 22:10:09 | Neo|Work | I don't know how optimized the stuff is. Works on my desktop, of course, but that's an athlon 1.1 GHz using an emulated framebuffer. :P |
| 22:10:21 | warmi | me niether ... I just used dirty rectangles repainting and it seems to be fast enough on my old P200 |
| 22:10:46 | warmi | on my Athlon 1.1 I could repaint everything 5 times over and it still would be fast :-) |
| 22:10:49 | Neo|Work | a P200 is somewhat equivalent to an arm 200 isn't it? |
| 22:11:01 | Neo|Work | except that it has an FPU |
| 22:11:21 | Neo|Work | I actually don't do A LOT of dirty rects kind of repainting |
| 22:11:44 | Neo|Work | I do avoid redrawing the image in paintEvent (i.e paintEvent is just pasting the already rendered display) |
| 22:11:55 | Neo|Work | I rewrote that a whole lot this weekend |
| 22:12:05 | warmi | I do back buffer rendering with dirty rectangles |
| 22:12:14 | warmi | I had to do it because it was slow on Windows |
| 22:12:19 | Neo|Work | is away: drink.. BIAB |
| 22:12:36 | warmi | pixmaps with transparency are extremely slow on Windows |
| 22:15:13 | Neo|Work | is away: I'm busy |
| 22:15:26 | Neo|Work | hmm. I use png's with alpha |
| 22:15:33 | Neo|Work | seems pretty decent in spee |
| 22:15:35 | Neo|Work | speed |
| 22:15:45 | warmi | doesn't matter , everything ends up being QPixmap there |
| 22:15:45 | Neo|Work | but again, computer is pretty darn much faster |
| 22:16:03 | warmi | and this problem is happening only on WIndows |
| 22:16:09 | Neo|Work | I do scaling and end up using QImage here and there |
| 22:16:11 | warmi | X runs fast like hell with QPixmap |
| 22:16:12 | Neo|Work | cache it now though |
| 22:16:34 | Com[plex] | OMFG http://koti.mbnet.fi/~soldier/towboat.htm |
| 22:16:34 | Neo|Work | I think I timed a redraw of the image to some 3-5 ms |
| 22:16:37 | Com[plex] | this is a Riot |
| 22:17:00 | Neo|Work | that is, my redrawing, not the screen update |
| 22:17:17 | warmi | Neo|Work: Somebody actually did some tests and zaurus was able to bitblit 60 full screens per second |
| 22:18:16 | Neo|Work | Com[plex]: gesh. shortcut. :) |
| 22:18:46 | Neo|Work | warmi: I don't use bitblt - seems to blit animations on top of menues and stuff |
| 22:19:08 | Neo|Work | i.e seems like it ends up as a blit directly to the framebuffer or something |
| 22:19:29 | warmi | trust me Neo: if you port your game as it is to Windows and you are using transparent QPixmaps ( say using Qpainter.drawPixmap()) your code will be 3-4 times slower on Windows |
| 22:19:38 | warmi | something with implementation |
| 22:19:50 | warmi | have not seen Qt code on Windows so I have no idea what is wrong there |
| 22:19:57 | Neo|Work | under windows you say using Qt directly? |
| 22:20:07 | Neo|Work | i.e not embedded or anything |
| 22:20:36 | Neo|Work | the windows version of Eligo uses SDL btw |
| 22:20:36 | warmi | doesn't matter ... I wrote my game using Qt and then just changed QApplication to QPEApplication in main.cpp and that was it |
| 22:20:59 | Neo|Work | Except the use of Config, Resource etc |
| 22:21:17 | warmi | yeah, that is true but everything else works right away |
| 22:21:57 | Neo|Work | I like Qt so much from this Z programming that I considered porting the Z version to the desktop and skipping the old version |
| 22:22:15 | warmi | yeah, Qt is such a joy to work with |
| 22:22:20 | Neo|Work | however there's one big problem - a commercial Qt license is EXPENSIVE |
| 22:22:21 | Neo|Work | for me |
| 22:22:34 | Neo|Work | like 2500 or so at least for an x-platform license |
| 22:22:43 | warmi | specially creating new widgets is so nice compared to MFC and say Motif |
| 22:22:52 | warmi | well, if you want to sell then you have to pay |
| 22:23:15 | warmi | I am using Free version but my company will buy commerical license |
| 22:23:31 | Neo|Work | right |
| 22:23:35 | warmi | we are trying to write movie and tv showtimes app for zaurus |
| 22:23:57 | Neo|Work | now, if I could afford the license it would be benefitial since I wouldn't have do deal with LGPL issues (not that huge of an issue but still) |
| 22:24:05 | Neo|Work | Oh, I want that. :) |
| 22:24:15 | Neo|Work | one app I use a lot on my palm is the movie showtimes |
| 22:24:31 | warmi | I work for Chicago Tribune ( Tribune Media Services) |
| 22:25:03 | Neo|Work | ah |
| 22:25:07 | warmi | and they are syndicating all that data out so we have access to all tv and movie showtimes in US and Canada |
| 22:25:28 | Neo|Work | cool. the palm app uses various movie website (i.e movies.yahoo.com etc) |
| 22:25:40 | warmi | thinking about creating XML feed with local caching... |
| 22:25:48 | Neo|Work | sounds reasonable |
| 22:26:07 | Neo|Work | hey, one cool++ feature of showtimes is that it downloads movie info from IMDB... |
| 22:26:55 | warmi | http://alliance.zap2it.com/zmovies/theater_details?TID=AANRF |
| 22:27:04 | warmi | playing around with feed |
| 22:27:15 | Hellaenergy | When devloping for the Z with qt-2.3.2 does anyone use the -xplatform linux-arm-g++ switch? |
| 22:27:22 | warmi | we are hoping to get this going next month or so |
| 22:27:36 | Neo|Work | Hellaenergy: nope |
| 22:27:36 | Hellaenergy | when configuring |
| 22:27:46 | Neo|Work | just use the correct tmake config |
| 22:28:17 | Hellaenergy | to compile qt-2.3.2? |
| 22:28:46 | Hellaenergy | aight |
| 22:28:49 | Hellaenergy | then |
| 22:28:56 | kergoth | ./configure -no-xft -xplatform linux-sharp-g++ -qconfig qpe -depths 16,32 && make; # to compile qt-2.3.2 for the Z |
| 22:29:15 | Hellaenergy | thanks kergoth :) |
| 22:29:18 | Neo|Work | I only used the sdk |
| 22:29:19 | kergoth | after copying qconfig* from $QPEDIR/qt/ into $QTDIR/src/tools/ |
| 22:29:22 | kergoth | np |
| 22:29:22 | Neo|Work | to do app development |
| 22:36:53 | Hellaenergy | kergoth: When you say $QPEDIR do you mean /opt/Qtopia/include/qpe/ /opt/Qtopia/bin/qpe ect...? |
| 22:37:19 | kergoth | if you're going to be using the sdk, why are you rebuilding qt/e? |
| 22:37:51 | Hellaenergy | I'm not |
| 22:37:57 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:38:16 | kergoth | "<Hellaenergy> to compile qt-2.3.2?" <? |
| 22:38:45 | Hellaenergy | Is that not the tool I must use to develop for the Z? |
| 22:38:58 | kergoth | qt-2.3.2 is included in the sdk |
| 22:39:01 | kergoth | you dont need to compile it |
| 22:39:42 | kergoth | you compile apps against it, there's no need to recompile qt/e itself unless you have an explicit reason |
| 22:40:26 | Hellaenergy | What were you talking about copying into QTDIR? |
| 22:40:30 | Hellaenergy | then |
| 22:40:43 | Hellaenergy | (bare with me :\) |
| 22:40:52 | kergoth | that was the procedure to recompile qt/e 2.3.2 |
| 22:41:00 | Hellaenergy | ahhhh |
| 22:41:12 | kergoth | as I figured that was what you were trying to do.. per the 'to compile qt-2.3.2?' comment |
| 22:41:14 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:41:16 | kergoth | confusion. fun fun. |
| 22:41:26 | Hellaenergy | sorry |
| 22:41:37 | kergoth | np |
| 22:41:57 | kergoth | so what is it you're trying to do? |
| 22:42:29 | Hellaenergy | Just compile a frickin helloworld.c app to be run on the z's command line |
| 22:42:43 | Hellaenergy | Too many problems for this camper |
| 22:42:45 | kergoth | oh |
| 22:42:51 | kergoth | just a .c? |
| 22:42:55 | kergoth | you dont have to do anything special at all |
| 22:42:57 | Hellaenergy | yup |
| 22:43:06 | kergoth | exact same piece of code as for x86 |
| 22:43:11 | Hellaenergy | no cross compilation |
| 22:43:19 | kergoth | only you do arm-linux-gcc -o hello hello.c rather than gcc |
| 22:43:21 | Hellaenergy | hmmmm? |
| 22:43:30 | kergoth | the code stays the same, the compiler changes |
| 22:43:39 | kergoth | you dont need qt or qpe in order to make a console application in c |
| 22:43:41 | Hellaenergy | I get a ld (no crtl.o) error |
| 22:43:52 | kergoth | sounds like you're crosscompilation env is fucked up |
| 22:44:01 | kergoth | using the SDK from the sharp developer site, or from trolltech? |
| 22:44:02 | Hellaenergy | hmmm |
| 22:44:10 | kergoth | s/you're/your/ |
| 22:44:11 | Hellaenergy | trolltech |
| 22:44:15 | kergoth | dont use that |
| 22:44:20 | kergoth | remove it, install the 4 rpms from the sharp one |
| 22:44:21 | Hellaenergy | hmmmm |
| 22:44:27 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 22:44:31 | kergoth | then read the writeup jason did on setting up a crosscompilation env. |
| 22:44:40 | kergoth | which includes scripts to make this easier |
| 22:44:42 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:44:43 | Hellaenergy | Ya I did that :\ |
| 22:45:10 | kergoth | well his writeup told you to use the sharp sdk :-P |
| 22:45:10 | Hellaenergy | I will do that thanks :) |
| 22:45:12 | kergoth | np |
| 22:45:27 | kergoth | this stuff can be a headache. heh |
| 22:45:33 | Hellaenergy | :* |
| 22:45:38 | Hellaenergy | sure is |
| 22:46:00 | Neo|Work | fuck dammit |
| 22:46:09 | kergoth | Neo|Work: ? |
| 22:46:10 | Neo|Work | I'm getting fucking irritated at Evolution now |
| 22:46:23 | kergoth | whats it doing? |
| 22:46:25 | Neo|Work | dying |
| 22:46:30 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:46:34 | Neo|Work | or failing to communicate with it's different parts to be exact |
| 22:46:49 | kergoth | ive seen some weird quirky bugs in Evolution |
| 22:47:12 | Neo|Work | it's something related to gconfd |
| 22:47:45 | Neo|Work | you need to restart gconfd before restarting evolution |
| 22:47:50 | Neo|Work | and sometimes I need to restart X |
| 22:47:57 | kergoth | eh |
| 22:47:59 | kergoth | how annoying |
| 22:47:59 | Neo|Work | highyl annoying |
| 22:49:16 | Neo|Work | phew. at least it managed to save the mail I was trying to send |
| 22:51:32 | Neo|Work | Subject: [¼ºÀα¤°í]¹Ì¼º³âÀÚ Àý´ë~Ŭ¸¯±ÝÁö!! (¼ºÀθ¸ÀǼ¼»ó) |
| 22:51:34 | Neo|Work | Oh, ok |
| 22:51:37 | Neo|Work | thanks for that mail |
| 23:10:52 | public | i have been wondering - is it possible to use a cell phone as a modem, communication via IR, and connect to a standard ISP (ie msn, mindspring, etc) |
| 23:11:22 | public | that is, there already exists the scripts and such do that on the Z |
| 23:14:43 | Neo|Work | I've heard the 1.10/1.11 roms have IRDA support that allows for that |
| 23:17:00 | whardier | hi |
| 23:17:03 | public | hm |
| 23:17:45 | public | I thought I remember reading a script that enabled the Z to connect to cell phones (a select few) |
| 23:18:15 | public | but, provided I can use the cell phone as a modem via IR, can I use a standard ISP, or do I need a special wireless ISP? |
| 23:18:27 | kergoth | yawns |
| 23:19:05 | Neo|Work | I really don't know enough to answer, I'm afraid |
| 23:20:59 | public | thx in any case |
| 23:21:05 | public | im doing a google search now |
| 23:28:22 | warmi | Hey Neo: does SDL run on Palmtop or PocketPC (Windows CE) ? |
| 23:28:36 | warmi | I read you guys will be porting your games to these platforms |
| 23:28:56 | Neo|Work | warmi: not at this point from what I know |
| 23:29:13 | Neo|Work | and if you mean PalmOS with palmtop, definitely not |
| 23:29:23 | Neo|Work | Hmm. there is some WinCE support though |
| 23:29:35 | ][N-Flux | anyone using the linksys cf wireless with oz? |
| 23:29:48 | Neo|Work | and I don't plan to port _to_ PocketPC (at least not now). but from (games not made by me) |
| 23:30:05 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: you still having probs w/ that card |
| 23:30:33 | ][N-Flux | roge99: got it working, but it seems to time out |
| 23:30:40 | ][N-Flux | works, then stops |
| 23:30:44 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: mmm |
| 23:30:56 | ][N-Flux | hang on |
| 23:31:02 | roge99 | ][N-Flux: it worked great whent i was running 2.6 |
| 23:31:41 | Hellaenergy | kergoth: Thanks alot I just ran my first app on the Z :)) |
| 23:31:42 | ][N-Flux | just wanna make sure it's 100% before i take my dremel to it |
| 23:31:52 | kergoth | Hellaenergy: congrats. :-) |
| 23:32:06 | roge99 | Hellaenergy: Hey how goes it |
| 23:32:11 | roge99 | sup kergoth |
| 23:32:17 | Hellaenergy | good roge99 and you |
| 23:32:22 | roge99 | not to bad |
| 23:32:26 | kergoth | roge99: nada.. working on adding qt/qtopia support to Sarien |
| 23:32:28 | kergoth | roge99: you? |
| 23:32:43 | roge99 | relaxing after dinner |
| 23:33:19 | kergoth | cool cool |
| 23:33:32 | Hellaenergy | kergoth is that normal to have had to copy arm-linux-gcc from /usr/local/arm/bin to /opt/Embedix/tools/bin? |
| 23:33:39 | kergoth | Hellaenergy: ? |
| 23:33:48 | kergoth | /usr/local/arm/bin is from the trolltech sdk, which i told you not to use |
| 23:33:56 | Hellaenergy | bash: /opt/Embedix/tools/bin/arm-linux-gcc: No such file or directory |
| 23:34:03 | kergoth | then you didnt install all 4 rpms from the sharp sdk |
| 23:34:04 | kergoth | er |
| 23:34:08 | kergoth | s/sdk/toolchain/ |
| 23:34:18 | Hellaenergy | I did though |
| 23:34:31 | Hellaenergy | I'll check agian :0 |
| 23:34:42 | ][N-Flux | fudge |
| 23:34:45 | Hellaenergy | It compiled it fine though |
| 23:35:06 | Hellaenergy | rm -fr /usr/local/arm :) |
| 23:35:28 | ][N-Flux | ergh |
| 23:35:35 | kergoth | ][N-Flux: problems/ |
| 23:36:04 | kergoth | hm i may be done with Sarien tonight. looking forward to playing leisure suit larry on my Z |
| 23:36:24 | Hellaenergy | Nice! |
| 23:36:27 | ][N-Flux | kergoth: yeah, my linksys cf wireless times out in oz 2.6 |
| 23:36:38 | kergoth | ][N-Flux: hmm |
| 23:36:48 | ][N-Flux | works for about 1min then stops |
| 23:36:53 | kergoth | odd |
| 23:36:54 | Neo|Work | kergoth: what's the problem with the trollteck sdk? |
| 23:37:10 | Neo|Work | or, as you pointed out, toolchain |
| 23:37:22 | kergoth | Neo|Work: not with the trolltech sdk, with the trolltech toolchain. dont trust it. people have had difficulties with the ld thats included with it not being able to find the startfiles (crt1.o, etc) |
| 23:37:37 | Neo|Work | has had no problems |
| 23:37:42 | Neo|Work | people are dumb. ;-)) |
| 23:37:45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:37:46 | kergoth | indeed |
| 23:37:59 | kergoth | I found it faster to direct them to the easist solution. i personally never installed the trolltech one |
| 23:39:27 | Hellaenergy | hey! |
| 23:39:33 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:42:09 | ][N-Flux | what the hell is going on :) |
| 23:50:55 | ][N-Flux | ah well, guess i'll flash back when I get home |
| 23:51:02 | ][N-Flux | is away: I'll be back... |
| 23:56:37 | Hellaenergy | kergoth: the gcc-cross-sa1100-2.95.2-0.i386.rpm from http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/docandtool.asp does not have arm-linux-gcc or arm-linux-g++ /opt/Embedix/tools/bin |
| 23:57:02 | Hellaenergy | arm-linux-addr2line arm-linux-gasp arm-linux-objcopy arm-linux-readelf arm-linux-strip |
| 23:57:02 | Hellaenergy | arm-linux-ar arm-linux-ld arm-linux-objdump arm-linux-size |
| 23:57:02 | Hellaenergy | arm-linux-as arm-linux-nm arm-linux-ranlib arm-linux-strings |
| 23:57:35 | kergoth | dpkg -L gcc-cross-sa1100|grep bin|grep arm-linux-gcc |
| 23:57:45 | kergoth | /opt/Embedix/tools/bin/arm-linux-gcc |
| 23:58:13 | kergoth | try rpm -ql gcc-cross-sa1100|grep arm-linux-gcc; |
| 23:58:44 | Hellaenergy | nothing |
| 23:59:02 | kergoth | dunno |
| 23:59:06 | kergoth | the one i have has it all |
| 23:59:13 | kergoth | odd. |
| 23:59:17 | Hellaenergy | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1851230 Feb 25 16:59 binutils-cross-arm-2.11.2-0.i386.rpm |
| 23:59:25 | Hellaenergy | just downloaded it |
| 23:59:43 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:59:50 | kergoth | why are you looking at binutils? |
| 23:59:54 | kergoth | its not in that package |
| 23:59:54 | kergoth | heh |
