| 00:03:48 | kergoth | gah i need to add vim, ipkg, opie, python, openssh, perl, to my buildsystem |
| 00:07:12 | finkployd | yeah, I'm happier with 1.11 |
| 00:07:19 | finkployd | Although I only have 3MB left |
| 00:07:22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:07:24 | kergoth | figured you might |
| 00:07:32 | finkployd | and the backup/restore worked perfectly |
| 00:07:51 | kergoth | nice. |
| 00:08:03 | finkployd | really hopes Sharp has some kind of upgrade or buyback program when the 5500 comes out |
| 00:08:11 | finkployd | But that is a long shot at best |
| 00:08:12 | kergoth | i doubt it |
| 00:08:14 | kergoth | yeah |
| 00:08:14 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:08:29 | finkployd | predicts plenty of 5000s on ebay next month |
| 00:08:40 | kergoth | grumbles |
| 00:08:46 | kergoth | ftp.info-zip.org is so fucking slow |
| 00:11:53 | kergoth | gah i need to find a mirror for the zlib build |
| 00:11:54 | kergoth | brb |
| 00:18:24 | Neo|Work | gah, pilot-addresses keep segfaulting. how annoying |
| 00:18:38 | Neo|Work | anyone know of a Linux PIM app that can sync with the pilot? :P |
| 00:18:44 | Neo|Work | needs to import a .csv file with addresses |
| 00:19:58 | finkployd | jpilot is the best (imho) |
| 00:20:34 | finkployd | It's basically and exact copy of the windows palm pilot desktop |
| 00:20:39 | finkployd | s/and/an |
| 00:20:40 | Neo|Work | it can't import csv files |
| 00:20:47 | Neo|Work | so it falls out right there |
| 00:21:09 | Neo|Work | pilot-addresses uses CSV but segfaults. will try to download/compile the 0.10.1 snapshot and if it still crashes, see if I can fix it |
| 00:21:11 | finkployd | hmmm, kde and gnome both have pims that can connect through "conduits" |
| 00:21:25 | finkployd | I think Evolution does as well |
| 00:21:33 | kergoth | yeah evolution needs the gnome pilot tools to sync |
| 00:21:35 | kergoth | or some such |
| 00:22:50 | Neo|Work | finkployd: right. However I don't like the way gpilotd hogs the device |
| 00:23:32 | Neo|Work | we'll see what the snapshot does |
| 00:24:02 | whardier | backs up his palm |
| 00:24:04 | whardier | aww yeah.. back that palm up |
| 00:24:09 | whardier | just made a pseudo reference to masturbation |
| 00:24:15 | finkployd | heh |
| 00:24:26 | whardier | I even included popular rap music |
| 00:24:31 | whardier | damn I am good |
| 00:24:37 | whardier | backs his palm up |
| 00:24:53 | kergoth | k im out |
| 00:24:58 | finkployd | considers taking a dremel tool to his Linksys wireless card |
| 00:25:02 | kergoth`work | is away: went home |
| 00:25:08 | whardier | finkployd good idea |
| 00:25:14 | whardier | it doesn't need that siding |
| 00:25:15 | whardier | heh |
| 00:25:42 | Neo|Work | just noticed that his techno shoutcast channel plays something awfully non-techno music with epic singing and crap |
| 00:25:48 | whardier | if I can convince the linksys card to stay.. I might rip the head off.. and custom fit it to the Z |
| 00:26:12 | whardier | just make the antenna part do a 180 onto the back of the Z |
| 00:26:33 | whardier | I bet there is only some mild db loss in doing that :) |
| 00:26:47 | whardier | then again the antenna is a chip.. not a grid |
| 00:26:54 | whardier | begins to wonder |
| 00:27:21 | Neo|Work | whee, syncing now worked |
| 00:27:30 | roge99 | whardier: i have a linksys and if you take a round file to the side where the stylus is it will fit |
| 00:27:53 | whardier | roge99 but cmon.. hacking the head off and making it lay flat against the back.. would be a hella lot cooler :) |
| 00:28:11 | roge99 | certainly |
| 00:28:16 | whardier | I want a Mr Fusion |
| 00:28:20 | roge99 | but this is quicker |
| 00:28:24 | roge99 | and it works |
| 00:28:31 | whardier | and it still looks odd |
| 00:28:33 | whardier | I have one as well.. |
| 00:28:39 | whardier | it just makes me feel funny looking at it |
| 00:28:58 | roge99 | and you dont have to buy a new card when you bust the one you have |
| 00:29:11 | roge99 | ;-) |
| 00:29:17 | whardier | roge99 but.. but.. I love blowing assloads of money! |
| 00:29:23 | whardier | poor ljp |
| 00:29:32 | ljp | huh? |
| 00:29:41 | CosmicPenguin | is away: http://www.microwindows.org - We're small, and we love it |
| 00:29:43 | roge99 | send me some then ( i have some broken gear i could sell you ) |
| 00:30:15 | ljp | poor my cat- he's been out since early morning |
| 00:32:03 | ljp | ok. wardier.. what'd I miss? |
| 00:34:15 | whardier | my cat is little |
| 00:34:24 | whardier | I made a masturbation comment a while back |
| 00:34:32 | whardier | and.. lets see.. |
| 00:34:34 | whardier | hmm |
| 00:34:39 | whardier | thats about it |
| 00:36:09 | Neo|Work | one of our cats has been missing for 3.5 weeks. she's likely not to return.. |
| 00:36:44 | ljp | ahh.. I see I missed alot. |
| 00:37:45 | ljp | I think its rum time... |
| 00:39:22 | Aelfweld | can anyone else connect to sourceforge? I wanted to get the usb enabled 1.11 rom but cannot connect o( |
| 00:40:18 | treke_ | Neo|Work : you'd be surprised. |
| 00:40:42 | treke_ | I had a cat go missing for about 2 months before it was found locked in a garage |
| 00:42:42 | ljp | whats that iso on ZZ all about? |
| 00:45:34 | Neo|Work | treke_: well, sure, but at this point it's unlikely but possible she'll be back at some point |
| 00:45:34 | ljp | what they need to do.. is create a run from cd linux with the development environment on it, so windows people can try to create Z apps... |
| 00:48:08 | ljp | and then trolltech can seel it to windows types |
| 00:48:48 | ljp | cause windows people are mor eused to buying software |
| 00:49:07 | ljp | heh QT linux |
| 00:57:42 | ljp | I wonder if the Z specific kernel bug fixes are going to beare going to be released back into the wild anytime soon.. or is it a one shot.. |
| 00:58:50 | ljp | I wonder if the Z's kernel is even getting bug fixes... |
| 01:02:08 | oob | hello |
| 01:02:46 | ljp | hi |
| 01:03:11 | oob | lots more ppl in this channel since i was last here two months ago |
| 01:03:41 | oob | has the zaurus been released to end users? |
| 01:04:38 | whardier | newp |
| 01:06:26 | ljp | no. just us front users... :) |
| 01:07:01 | oob | ok |
| 01:07:07 | oob | so what is everyone working on |
| 01:07:49 | whardier | uses his front |
| 01:08:58 | ljp | I'm working on several things |
| 01:09:08 | oob | .. |
| 01:11:10 | ljp | an audio sampler, embeddedkonsole, my contest app,.. opie |
| 01:11:32 | oob | cool |
| 01:12:44 | oob | dinner is served.. |
| 01:14:08 | ljp | I'm also working on a bottle of rum.. |
| 01:14:40 | file | is back |
| 01:20:42 | tux_mike | whee |
| 01:20:52 | tux_mike | hrm... Fastolfe, you there? |
| 01:21:40 | tux_mike | ljp: did you see my comment either last night or this morning about your thing working on the Z (with no changes) |
| 01:22:22 | tux_mike | hey kergoth |
| 01:23:27 | whardier | my kitty loves me |
| 01:24:17 | tux_mike | huh?df |
| 01:24:37 | ljp | tux: yes I did |
| 01:25:10 | tux_mike | strange, aint it. the only reason i found it worked was i gave up :) |
| 01:25:19 | tux_mike | sometimes giving up is the answer :) |
| 01:25:53 | ljp | I think I came across that crash once before, and couldn't find any reason why it would do that. |
| 01:26:11 | tux_mike | dunno... i'm just glad it works |
| 01:26:23 | tux_mike | now i can work on more important things |
| 01:26:28 | ljp | :) |
| 01:26:54 | ljp | I'll take a looksee at it sometime.. I would like to update that a little |
| 01:27:31 | tux_mike | i eventually want to switch to doclnk, but i don't see any changes on this thing hapening. |
| 01:28:05 | ljp | ya.. I want to add doclnk to that thing |
| 01:28:25 | ljp | right now.. I use doclnk when the filefialog returns |
| 01:28:55 | tux_mike | i'd like to use fileselector too, but this is more striaghtforward |
| 01:29:26 | ljp | I could never figure out fileselector.. so I wrote that |
| 01:29:49 | tux_mike | i was getting there... but i gave up, and decided to use this :) |
| 01:31:35 | tux_mike | i don't need fileselector for the pim apps, so i'm not gonna bother |
| 01:32:17 | file | motions his hand and free Zaurus's appear in front of everyone |
| 01:32:42 | ljp | heh- wow, file.. ot worked!!1 |
| 01:32:52 | ljp | it worked |
| 01:32:57 | file | gr8t |
| 01:38:56 | ljp | hehehehe.. except 2 months late |
| 01:39:54 | tux_mike | huh? |
| 01:40:53 | ljp | :) |
| 01:41:28 | ljp | I was a very luck bastard.... |
| 01:42:30 | whardier | gr8t |
| 01:42:30 | whardier | heh |
| 01:42:39 | whardier | some things amaze me |
| 01:44:02 | ljp | like what |
| 01:45:34 | whardier | dtmf tones |
| 01:45:50 | ljp | on the Z? |
| 01:46:33 | ljp | you know.. two guys in Austrialia copyrighted the tones for phone numbers.... |
| 01:50:14 | edwardam | hello. I got a zaurus at LWE. Where can I find the best/latest bits to put on it? |
| 01:50:37 | ljp | http://www.zauruszone.com |
| 01:50:50 | ljp | http://sourceforge.net/projects.zaurus |
| 01:51:34 | edwardam | who packaged python? And are there any gui bindings yet? |
| 01:51:40 | edwardam | thanks btw |
| 01:56:01 | Neo|Work | all the logo hacks for PalmOS is so dumb. :P |
| 01:56:28 | gecko_x2 | so 5500 will be released next month? |
| 01:57:00 | gecko_x2 | or is it already for sale? |
| 02:02:00 | ljp | I think they are shooting for March, but I bet it'll be pushed back |
| 02:05:51 | gecko_x2 | well i'm told i'll get mine in march :) |
| 02:09:13 | argent | whardier> I found out why my wcf11 NIC wasn't working properly.... |
| 02:13:50 | whardier | arg? |
| 02:14:06 | whardier | cause you do not have an access point:! |
| 02:14:07 | whardier | hahaha |
| 02:14:09 | whardier | HOOHOOOHOOO |
| 02:14:10 | whardier | hehe |
| 02:14:12 | whardier | snickers |
| 02:14:32 | whardier | I have a callld.sh |
| 02:15:11 | whardier | it users a dtmf tone package on my desktop to call long distance numbers on a calling card |
| 02:15:25 | whardier | I just say callld.sh 1907sexmeup |
| 02:15:30 | whardier | hold the phone up to the speakers |
| 02:15:32 | whardier | and viola |
| 02:15:33 | whardier | I called it |
| 02:15:34 | whardier | hah |
| 02:16:49 | whardier | man I need food |
| 02:16:54 | whardier | makes some noodles |
| 02:17:48 | flamingcow | anyone got a WCF11 working? |
| 02:20:10 | fiferboy | Anyone having trouble connecting to ZaurusZone right now? |
| 02:26:05 | flamingcow | anyone using any wireless card? |
| 02:26:35 | roge99 | flamingcow: yea wcf11 no prob |
| 02:26:50 | whardier | yeah |
| 02:26:52 | roge99 | flamingcow: what rom are you running |
| 02:26:52 | whardier | same here |
| 02:26:57 | whardier | I even use it in ad-hoc mode |
| 02:27:04 | roge99 | me too ! |
| 02:27:14 | whardier | hugs roge99 |
| 02:27:31 | whardier | it would be interesting to get ntop on the Z |
| 02:27:35 | roge99 | hugs whardier |
| 02:28:25 | flamingcow | roge99: openzaurus |
| 02:28:35 | roge99 | 2.6 |
| 02:28:37 | flamingcow | 2.6 |
| 02:28:46 | flamingcow | i edited the wlan-ng.conf |
| 02:28:48 | roge99 | yea you need to tweak a few files |
| 02:28:50 | flamingcow | and it loads the module correctly |
| 02:28:59 | flamingcow | but the wcf11 won't pass data |
| 02:29:00 | roge99 | you need to edit wlan-ng |
| 02:29:06 | flamingcow | like, i run dhcpcd on it and it doesn't work |
| 02:29:10 | Neo|Work | goes home. |
| 02:29:18 | Neo|Work | is away: home |
| 02:29:23 | roge99 | add a ifconfig $2 up right after the usage block |
| 02:29:28 | whardier | I plan on making it a little easier soon :) |
| 02:29:30 | whardier | SO PRAY FOR ME |
| 02:29:38 | whardier | the new OZ will have much better wifi support |
| 02:29:41 | whardier | muuuuch |
| 02:29:53 | roge99 | prays |
| 02:30:02 | flamingcow | roge99: can i add a dhcpcd $2? |
| 02:30:05 | whardier | eevn if I have to write a damned ap |
| 02:30:30 | whardier | I really wanna get it down to a science |
| 02:30:54 | roge99 | dhcp works fine after you up the card |
| 02:31:04 | whardier | if you are having issues |
| 02:31:10 | whardier | ifconfig wlan0 0 up |
| 02:31:14 | whardier | then try dhcp |
| 02:31:37 | roge99 | you need to restart pcmcia after you up the card i think |
| 02:31:42 | whardier | remember to dhcpcd wlan0 |
| 02:31:55 | whardier | not just dhcpcd |
| 02:32:07 | whardier | dhclient and pump would be nice alternatives |
| 02:32:15 | flamingcow | whardier: is that 0 after wlan0 on the ifconfig line correct? |
| 02:33:08 | peanut | waves |
| 02:33:15 | flamingcow | and vi in oz2.6 doesn't seem to handle SIGWINCH correctly |
| 02:35:20 | flamingcow | hmm |
| 02:35:22 | flamingcow | still just blinking card |
| 02:35:29 | flamingcow | no traffic |
| 02:35:32 | flamingcow | dhcpcd doesn't work :( |
| 02:35:51 | roge99 | edit wlan-ng and restart pcmcia services |
| 02:36:02 | flamingcow | i edited it and rebooted |
| 02:36:10 | roge99 | what did you put in |
| 02:36:23 | flamingcow | /sbin/ifconfig $2 0 up |
| 02:36:26 | flamingcow | /sbin/dhcpcd $2 |
| 02:36:31 | roge99 | no 0 |
| 02:36:32 | flamingcow | right after the usage block |
| 02:36:40 | roge99 | no dhcp |
| 02:36:47 | roge99 | ifconfig $2 up |
| 02:37:15 | roge99 | /sbin/ifconfig $2 up |
| 02:37:19 | roge99 | thats it |
| 02:38:07 | flamingcow | done |
| 02:38:09 | flamingcow | reboots |
| 02:40:10 | Dafydd | Has the status of the beta contest been discussed at all? Anyone know when folks will hear something? |
| 02:40:41 | ljp | good q.. but they probably have to wade through mre than a thousand apps |
| 02:41:46 | Dafydd | I guess so. However, the final deadline is rapidly approaching, and I have to believe that people will need their "beta-prize" Zaurus soon for testing. |
| 02:42:09 | flamingcow | roge99: yay! thank you |
| 02:43:01 | roge99 | flamingcow: no prob |
| 02:43:14 | flamingcow | i love this thing |
| 02:44:23 | ljp | flame: obviously you havent tried audio programming for it.. :) |
| 02:45:35 | whardier | woowoo.. don't get me too excited.. these are new underwear! |
| 02:47:55 | flamingcow | ljp: hah! |
| 02:48:00 | ljp | I though you were making noodles.. ? |
| 02:48:02 | flamingcow | i'm actually gonna try to get a console aim client to compile for it next |
| 02:48:33 | ljp | ahhh.. that should be no prob |
| 02:50:15 | peanut | awaits the new kompany apps |
| 02:51:05 | ljp | new? |
| 02:51:11 | peanut | yup.. |
| 02:51:16 | peanut | new ones are coming out next week |
| 02:51:35 | ljp | what new ones? |
| 02:52:12 | peanut | dunno.. bigboss won't say.. |
| 02:52:35 | ljp | ahhh.. ain't that just like him |
| 02:53:21 | ljp | I know they've got an ebook reader.... in the works |
| 02:53:38 | peanut | i bet thats one of them.. |
| 02:54:36 | ljp | hmm.. lemme guess.. their own syncing software for the desktop... |
| 02:55:34 | ljp | perhaps a calculator |
| 02:55:49 | peanut | maybe a pim? |
| 02:55:51 | ljp | a pim suite |
| 02:55:53 | peanut | aethera |
| 02:56:24 | peanut | but then again, thats in hancom |
| 02:56:27 | tux_mike | who said what with a pim now? |
| 02:56:39 | ljp | we're guessing |
| 02:56:53 | peanut | didn't like aethera |
| 02:57:04 | tux_mike | athera == crap |
| 02:57:24 | ][N-Flux | blah |
| 02:57:34 | peanut | yup.. |
| 02:57:48 | peanut | its not one of the kompanys better apps |
| 02:58:03 | tux_mike | evolution all the way |
| 02:58:15 | peanut | doesn't like evolution either |
| 02:58:27 | tux_mike | evoloution roxxors your soxxors |
| 02:58:54 | ][N-Flux | evolution is good wokr |
| 02:58:59 | ][N-Flux | work too |
| 03:03:23 | peanut | has tried evo multiple times.. |
| 03:03:33 | peanut | i would prefer if it was easier to install |
| 03:04:15 | tux_mike | true. i'd prefer not having to load all the ximian stuff for it, but meh |
| 03:08:16 | whardier | augh |
| 03:08:29 | whardier | St Paul Island AK |
| 03:08:31 | whardier | ghetto |
| 03:08:39 | whardier | missing only two things of a rea ghetto |
| 03:08:41 | whardier | real |
| 03:08:46 | whardier | Human defecation |
| 03:08:48 | whardier | and Bums |
| 03:08:55 | whardier | it is two cold for either of those |
| 03:09:08 | whardier | you would have frozen bums with frozen poops |
| 03:11:28 | ljp | only in the winter |
| 03:11:40 | whardier | is it rape to have your way with words? |
| 03:12:01 | ljp | only if they do not consent |
| 03:12:08 | whardier | hahahahaha |
| 03:13:57 | ljp | wishes sharp would have spent more time on the audio driver.. |
| 03:14:17 | whardier | you know |
| 03:14:23 | whardier | from one persons viewpoint |
| 03:14:24 | whardier | it works |
| 03:15:17 | ljp | true |
| 03:15:47 | ][N-Flux | is it buggy or what? |
| 03:16:23 | ljp | but from a developers' view who also happens to be a musician.. uummm... it needs work |
| 03:16:33 | Fastolfe | tux_mike: you were looking for me / |
| 03:16:34 | Fastolfe | ? |
| 03:21:32 | tux_mike | Fastolfe: you read /.? |
| 03:22:09 | Fastolfe | yeah, I went clean up all the local RS stores :) |
| 03:22:21 | tux_mike | lol :) |
| 03:22:40 | Fastolfe | I raked up 870 cats :) |
| 03:22:48 | tux_mike | yow! |
| 03:22:56 | tux_mike | how many do you have now? |
| 03:23:07 | Fastolfe | over 1000, not sure |
| 03:23:26 | whardier | WHAT! |
| 03:23:28 | Fastolfe | I can start a business now :) |
| 03:23:32 | whardier | CATS? |
| 03:23:36 | Fastolfe | cuecats |
| 03:23:43 | whardier | haha |
| 03:23:47 | whardier | you have that many cuecats! |
| 03:23:48 | ljp | my cats likes to play hide and seek :) |
| 03:24:06 | Fastolfe | yeah, I'm running the "save the cuecats" movement |
| 03:24:12 | Fastolfe | I need to make a site |
| 03:24:29 | ljp | so.. just what DO you use a cuecat for? |
| 03:24:38 | whardier | scanning |
| 03:24:45 | whardier | I am pretty sure he could make a light show now |
| 03:24:59 | whardier | or use them as christmas lights |
| 03:25:00 | Fastolfe | the RS guys were so happy when I came in and cleaned them up, they all told me they could go home early tonight instead of crushing the silly devices :) |
| 03:25:29 | Fastolfe | ljp: Cuecats are useful, as much as a barcode scanner, only they are (were) free |
| 03:25:58 | ljp | I was going to get one.. but why? |
| 03:26:03 | Fastolfe | once DigitalConvergence kicks the bucket for good, I'll them them with barcode products |
| 03:26:11 | whardier | you should ebay that |
| 03:26:18 | whardier | $1000+ Cuecats |
| 03:26:24 | whardier | starting bid for cellectors item |
| 03:26:28 | whardier | $300 |
| 03:26:29 | Fastolfe | whardier: no, I want to add value to them with software |
| 03:26:35 | whardier | well |
| 03:26:35 | Fastolfe | whardier: heh :) |
| 03:26:39 | whardier | I might order a few from you |
| 03:26:44 | Fastolfe | heh |
| 03:26:57 | whardier | is too lazy to go to RS right now |
| 03:26:59 | Fastolfe | you can still find em around |
| 03:27:03 | whardier | are they giving up on them or something? |
| 03:27:10 | Fastolfe | RS has no cat left |
| 03:27:17 | whardier | at all? |
| 03:27:22 | whardier | nationwide? |
| 03:27:30 | tux_mike | Fastolfe: was that the company that did the cuecat? digital convergence? |
| 03:27:32 | whardier | nocat.org :) |
| 03:27:36 | Fastolfe | yes, Digitalconvergence's database is down, so the software that comes with the cat is useless |
| 03:27:43 | Fastolfe | tux_mike: yes |
| 03:27:55 | whardier | database down for good? |
| 03:28:06 | Fastolfe | RS has called them repeatedly, but they won't answer. RS is thinking of suing them |
| 03:28:16 | whardier | haha |
| 03:28:17 | Fastolfe | whardier: as far as I know |
| 03:28:18 | whardier | on what grounds! |
| 03:28:24 | Fastolfe | broken contract |
| 03:28:27 | whardier | hahaha |
| 03:28:30 | whardier | broken server |
| 03:28:39 | whardier | I have been sued under broken contract |
| 03:28:43 | whardier | that sucked |
| 03:28:47 | Fastolfe | they had a contract with DC to serve up the database entries |
| 03:28:52 | whardier | I need to change professions a little |
| 03:28:55 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 03:28:57 | Fastolfe | be a layer |
| 03:29:01 | Fastolfe | lawyer |
| 03:29:01 | whardier | prolly |
| 03:29:14 | whardier | my lawyers all suck |
| 03:29:20 | whardier | I need to find one that likes me |
| 03:29:20 | Fastolfe | actually, lemme try to connect to the db with my software, maybe it works still :) |
| 03:29:24 | ljp | cat likes to attack my ankles |
| 03:29:30 | whardier | haha |
| 03:29:31 | whardier | ljp |
| 03:29:35 | peanut | 's mother is a da |
| 03:29:36 | whardier | when I walk away from my cat |
| 03:29:40 | whardier | I hear this little peep |
| 03:29:42 | peanut | 's brother is a 2l |
| 03:29:44 | whardier | then my ankle gets bit |
| 03:29:47 | peanut | works at a law school |
| 03:29:50 | tux_mike | my cat likes to go in my wastepaper basket |
| 03:29:54 | peanut | spends too much time around lawyers |
| 03:29:55 | whardier | oh yeah! |
| 03:30:03 | Fastolfe | yeah it's down alright |
| 03:30:04 | whardier | MY CAT LIKES TO EAT MY FRIENDS! |
| 03:30:08 | whardier | hair |
| 03:30:15 | Fastolfe | checks DC's site |
| 03:30:30 | whardier | I should have cached the DB when I had the chance |
| 03:30:43 | whardier | then I would be praised |
| 03:31:14 | whardier | wow |
| 03:31:19 | whardier | I am so into obscure hardware now |
| 03:31:31 | whardier | hehe |
| 03:31:33 | Fastolfe | looks like biz as usual on their site |
| 03:31:35 | Fastolfe | suckers |
| 03:31:47 | ljp | so.. does a cuecat run on a Z yet? |
| 03:31:59 | Fastolfe | it will, it will, as soon as I find a serial cable :) |
| 03:32:02 | whardier | haha |
| 03:32:04 | whardier | Fastolfe |
| 03:32:05 | whardier | you sucker |
| 03:32:09 | Fastolfe | uuh |
| 03:32:11 | Fastolfe | thanks a lot |
| 03:32:14 | Fastolfe | you sucker |
| 03:32:15 | whardier | use the gpio lines |
| 03:32:33 | Fastolfe | whard. where do I find the damn plug to get them out ? |
| 03:32:46 | whardier | radio shack! |
| 03:32:52 | Fastolfe | plus it's a serial protocol, why would I bother with the gpio ? |
| 03:32:54 | whardier | actually.. that is true for an ipaq |
| 03:33:06 | Fastolfe | uart baby |
| 03:33:12 | whardier | haha |
| 03:33:15 | whardier | my cuecat is PS/2 |
| 03:33:25 | Fastolfe | yeah, PS/2 == synchronous serial |
| 03:33:49 | Fastolfe | I could try to hook it up on the audio plug, like the morse key :) |
| 03:33:51 | whardier | a standard serial uart should not be able to handle that |
| 03:33:59 | Fastolfe | whardier: yes it would |
| 03:34:06 | whardier | it would be DAMN SLOW! |
| 03:34:09 | Fastolfe | whardier: go to my cuecat site to find out |
| 03:34:14 | whardier | oooh ok |
| 03:34:23 | whardier | still does not believe that you prolly know what you are talking about |
| 03:34:30 | Fastolfe | http://opensource.lineo.com/cuecat/cuecat_driver/cuecat_RS232_pod/ |
| 03:34:55 | whardier | oh sure.. run it thru a 74HC04 |
| 03:35:02 | whardier | thats your fucking answer to everything! |
| 03:35:03 | Fastolfe | well |
| 03:35:07 | whardier | gets huffy |
| 03:35:09 | Fastolfe | excuse the shit out of me :) |
| 03:35:30 | tux_mike | doesn't ps2 run on 5v? |
| 03:35:38 | Fastolfe | yes |
| 03:35:53 | Fastolfe | but most serial ports are pretty lax with standards |
| 03:35:57 | Fastolfe | that's why it works |
| 03:36:05 | Fastolfe | otherwise, MAX232 is your friend |
| 03:36:07 | whardier | whats with the batteries? |
| 03:36:16 | whardier | played with MAX232 |
| 03:36:17 | Fastolfe | whardier: the cuecat needs power |
| 03:36:24 | whardier | augh |
| 03:36:27 | Fastolfe | duh |
| 03:36:36 | whardier | why not just use the ps2 port |
| 03:36:42 | whardier | or was this a TC |
| 03:36:46 | Fastolfe | TC ? |
| 03:36:52 | whardier | Total Convertion! |
| 03:36:52 | peanut | yawns.. |
| 03:36:57 | whardier | haha |
| 03:36:59 | whardier | BYOB |
| 03:36:59 | Fastolfe | it's a hack |
| 03:37:02 | Fastolfe | I like hacks |
| 03:37:07 | Fastolfe | in case you haven't noticed |
| 03:37:12 | whardier | hack hack hack hack hack |
| 03:37:14 | whardier | hehe |
| 03:37:19 | whardier | smokers like to hack |
| 03:37:24 | whardier | I guess that explains you |
| 03:37:42 | whardier | belkin |
| 03:37:43 | Fastolfe | check this one out : |
| 03:37:45 | Fastolfe | http://www.uclinux.com/hand-powered_web_server/index.html |
| 03:38:12 | whardier | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:38:14 | whardier | oh my god |
| 03:38:15 | whardier | HAHA |
| 03:38:20 | whardier | my fucking chest hurts |
| 03:38:31 | Fastolfe | see ? I like hacks |
| 03:38:34 | Fastolfe | hacks are good |
| 03:39:06 | whardier | did you do that? |
| 03:39:09 | Fastolfe | yeah |
| 03:39:13 | Fastolfe | my name's on the page |
| 03:39:26 | whardier | you are gonna have to give me a little tutorial on ucdimms sometime soon |
| 03:39:37 | Fastolfe | heh |
| 03:39:51 | Fastolfe | uCdimm 101 : buy one |
| 03:40:01 | whardier | whats the processor on them? |
| 03:40:15 | Fastolfe | dragonball 68VZ328 |
| 03:40:35 | whardier | I can run palmos on it? |
| 03:40:42 | ljp | heh- they need that up the AK |
| 03:41:03 | Fastolfe | you probably could, yes |
| 03:41:09 | Fastolfe | the AK ? |
| 03:41:12 | whardier | Fastolfe 101? |
| 03:42:04 | whardier | augh |
| 03:42:08 | whardier | how do I order a single unit? |
| 03:42:19 | ljp | AK= Alaska |
| 03:42:21 | peanut | buy the geek kit |
| 03:42:24 | Fastolfe | k |
| 03:42:24 | em1ssnuke | Fast_: Hi .. got the 2.4.16 kernel finally up and running. Now what do I do to connect to the USB ethernet connection? |
| 03:42:49 | Fastolfe | whardier: call Arcturus Networks in Toronto (former Lineo Toronto) |
| 03:42:49 | whardier | fawk |
| 03:42:55 | Fastolfe | 416-621-0125 |
| 03:42:56 | whardier | anybody else get this when compiling a kernel? |
| 03:42:56 | whardier | net/network.o \ |
| 03:42:57 | whardier | /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a \ |
| 03:42:57 | whardier | --end-group \ |
| 03:42:57 | whardier | -o vmlinux |
| 03:42:57 | whardier | net/network.o(.text.lock+0x2d91): undefined reference to `local symbols in discarded section .text.exit' |
| 03:42:59 | whardier | make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 |
| 03:43:34 | Fastolfe | em1ssnuke: insmod CDCEther, plug the USB plug, ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.200, pint 192.168.1.201 |
| 03:43:38 | Fastolfe | s/pint/ping |
| 03:43:56 | peanut | there's a little more to it then that.. |
| 03:43:59 | peanut | which rom are you running? |
| 03:44:04 | em1ssnuke | fast_: k, thanks |
| 03:44:10 | Fastolfe | em1ssnuke: http://www.ruault.com/Zaurus/ethernet-over-usb-howto.html |
| 03:44:19 | whardier | Fastolfe http://www.jumptec.de/product/data/etx/etx-e520-e.html |
| 03:44:24 | peanut | em1ssnuke: which rom? |
| 03:44:37 | whardier | those are a lot cheaper.. and faster.. just not as effecient on battery :) |
| 03:44:40 | peanut | or did i miss that part of the conversation |
| 03:44:46 | em1ssnuke | peanut: still have original |
| 03:44:57 | peanut | you should at least update to 1.02 |
| 03:45:25 | em1ssnuke | peanut: don't I need to connect before I ugrade the rom? |
| 03:45:26 | Fastolfe | whardier: yeah, but how about the dimm form factor ? |
| 03:45:37 | peanut | not if you have a cf writer |
| 03:45:57 | em1ssnuke | peanut: no cf writer ... yet |
| 03:46:03 | whardier | http://www.jumptec.de/product/data/dimmpc/dimm520e.html |
| 03:46:06 | whardier | dimm! |
| 03:46:29 | Fastolfe | how much are they ? |
| 03:46:33 | whardier | not much |
| 03:46:36 | whardier | I have a price sheet somewhere |
| 03:46:49 | whardier | the non dimm was only $250 |
| 03:46:54 | whardier | I think the dim is around $300 |
| 03:47:09 | whardier | http://www.jumptec.de/product/data/dimmpc/dimmetncome.html |
| 03:47:18 | Fastolfe | I think they brought the ucdimm under 150 |
| 03:47:22 | Fastolfe | not sure tho |
| 03:47:31 | whardier | hmm |
| 03:47:37 | whardier | how fast is the little fucker> |
| 03:47:42 | peanut | em1ssnuke: then you would need to connect to download the rom update to cf |
| 03:47:51 | peanut | you can get a cf writer for 30 bucks |
| 03:48:08 | Fastolfe | whardier: it's fast like a PalmPilot :) |
| 03:48:14 | Fastolfe | whardier: but you can OC it |
| 03:48:44 | Fastolfe | it burns very little power tho, that's the point of the device |
| 03:49:02 | Fastolfe | you can bring it down to under one milliamp with the i/os turned off |
| 03:49:03 | em1ssnuke | peanut: but I dont have any cf memory modules either |
| 03:51:32 | whardier | OC it? |
| 03:51:49 | peanut | thats ok.. |
| 03:51:58 | peanut | overclock |
| 03:52:09 | em1ssnuke | fast_: not connecting ... & /var/log/messages not the same as the faq |
| 03:52:21 | em1ssnuke | howto |
| 03:52:43 | peanut | em1ssnuke: are you sure that you're updated (patched) cdcether is being loaded |
| 03:53:08 | peanut | if you're not seeing the sharps mac address in /var/log/messages, the patched cdcether is not being loaded correctly |
| 03:53:19 | em1ssnuke | CDCEther is being loaded ... |
| 03:53:29 | peanut | yes, but is it the right one |
| 03:53:45 | em1ssnuke | Feb 11 22:49:58 amd4 kernel: CDCEther.c: CDCEther.c: v0.98.5 22 Sep 2001 Brad Hards and another |
| 03:54:11 | peanut | did you patch it? |
| 03:54:28 | em1ssnuke | no took default from SuSE install |
| 03:54:35 | peanut | you need to patch it.. |
| 03:54:40 | em1ssnuke | ah ... |
| 03:54:50 | peanut | <Fastolfe> em1ssnuke: http://www.ruault.com/Zaurus/ethernet-over-usb-howto.html |
| 03:55:04 | peanut | fastolfe directed you to the correct site.. |
| 03:55:12 | peanut | you can download the patch from there |
| 03:55:14 | whardier | I loff my kittie |
| 03:55:24 | em1ssnuke | k,i'll red it mor4e CARFULLY ;) |
| 03:55:34 | em1ssnuke | read |
| 03:55:43 | whardier | makes a few modules as well |
| 03:55:44 | whardier | hehe |
| 03:55:56 | whardier | man |
| 03:55:58 | whardier | I jsut had mcfood |
| 03:56:02 | whardier | and taco bell |
| 03:56:06 | whardier | in the same day |
| 03:56:10 | whardier | I hope I live |
| 03:56:25 | em1ssnuke | i'll be back ... much later |
| 03:57:11 | whardier | somfin tells me he has a slow comp |
| 03:57:16 | kendrick2 | re |
| 03:57:19 | whardier | Alo! |
| 03:57:22 | em1ssnuke | paenut & fastolfe .. thanks for the help |
| 03:57:24 | whardier | hows kendrick2 ! |
| 03:57:32 | whardier | em1ssnuke I did not help? |
| 03:57:59 | em1ssnuke | yea but still learning the basics first .... :) |
| 03:58:01 | kendrick2 | returns from a boring trip to san jose |
| 03:58:22 | whardier | sane joe |
| 03:59:35 | whardier | jlo! |
| 03:59:38 | whardier | haha |
| 03:59:40 | whardier | your a singer |
| 03:59:46 | whardier | welcome to our channel |
| 03:59:48 | whardier | we humble you |
| 04:00:01 | jlo | just checking in |
| 04:01:18 | ljp | whardier: you seems to have that effect on people... |
| 04:01:29 | kendrick2 | heh |
| 04:01:56 | kendrick2 | so any cellular phone cf cards working on zaurus yet? :) :) |
| 04:09:21 | zero1 | kergoth around |
| 04:09:28 | | kergoth` was last seen on #zaurus 5 days, 21 hours, 38 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: that sucks. [Wed Feb 6 06:31:10 2002] |
| 04:09:29 | zero1 | ibot seen kergoth` |
| 04:10:43 | roge99 | sup zero1 |
| 04:10:46 | zero1 | hey |
| 04:10:48 | zero1 | not much |
| 04:10:52 | roge99 | how goes it |
| 04:10:58 | zero1 | &u |
| 04:11:17 | zero1 | just finshed some work, trying to see what else i can get my Z todo |
| 04:11:24 | roge99 | screwn round w /destktop stuff |
| 04:11:38 | ljp | you can do morse code now! |
| 04:11:45 | roge99 | cleanin up |
| 04:11:49 | zero1 | heh |
| 04:11:55 | kergoth` | re |
| 04:12:22 | roge99 | hey kergoth |
| 04:12:34 | kergoth | sup roge99. how goes it? |
| 04:12:40 | roge99 | not too bad |
| 04:13:35 | kend2-busy | is away: stuff |
| 04:16:14 | kergoth | gahh |
| 04:16:20 | kergoth | fucking cable |
| 04:16:25 | kergoth | 6.8k/s from geezer |
| 04:16:41 | kergoth | at this rate i'll be able to test one rom image per every couple hours |
| 04:16:42 | kergoth | argh |
| 04:16:45 | MEGASTeP | is away: I'm away, dammit |
| 04:17:04 | tux_mike | ow. |
| 04:17:12 | tux_mike | my fingers hurt |
| 04:18:09 | kergoth | tux_mike: i dont want to know why |
| 04:18:13 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:18:15 | kergoth | whardier: ping |
| 04:19:25 | tux_mike | kergoth: mario cart |
| 04:20:24 | kergoth | ah. couple weeks ago my thumbs her sooo bad from an overnight tony hawk 3 gaming session on xbox. .those fucking controllers are so uncomfortable |
| 04:22:09 | tux_mike | i was playing for about an hour or so... doing time trials |
| 04:26:34 | zero1 | ok, just so everyone can witness the beginning - http://www.openzaurus.org/ |
| 04:26:43 | kend2-busy | xbox controllser suck |
| 04:26:46 | kend2-busy | goes back to eating dinner |
| 04:26:56 | zero1 | not much there yet! |
| 04:27:52 | zero1 | have you played 'max payne' ? |
| 04:28:27 | jlo | zero1: What are you planning to put on the site? |
| 04:29:08 | zero1 | anything and eveything openzaurus users suggest, especially kergoth and whardier |
| 04:29:56 | zero1 | i have a few ideas |
| 04:30:44 | zero1 | jlo: what would you like to see? |
| 04:30:55 | jlo | I played around with the zaurus at little while at LinuxWorld, it was pretty nice |
| 04:32:29 | zero1 | you don't have one! ? |
| 04:33:03 | jlo | Sorry, not yet. I was very tempted, but you could convince me ;-) |
| 04:33:25 | zero1 | you currently have a linux pda? |
| 04:33:41 | sjohnson | zero1: www.openzaurus.org --> Ohhhh! Ahhhh! ;) |
| 04:33:55 | NeoTron | is back (gone 21:01:05) |
| 04:34:25 | jlo | No, just a simple Palm unit. |
| 04:34:37 | zero1 | i offered to host it do you tun linux at home or work? |
| 04:34:47 | zero1 | oops |
| 04:34:57 | zero1 | let me say that again: |
| 04:35:06 | zero1 | do you run linux at home or work |
| 04:35:21 | jlo | Both |
| 04:35:28 | zero1 | do you love linux |
| 04:37:09 | jlo | i like linux |
| 04:37:25 | jlo | it gets the job done |
| 04:38:02 | jlo | are you a developer? |
| 04:39:08 | zero1 | yes i am, if you really like linux you'll really enjoy the Z |
| 04:39:36 | zero1 | my current project is www.mycity.com |
| 04:39:47 | zero1 | beeen working on it for about 8 years |
| 04:41:02 | jlo | oh... have you been developing apps for the zaurus? |
| 04:42:04 | zero1 | only for personal use |
| 04:42:36 | zero1 | i'm mainly using it to help me with my other projects, not developing for it itself |
| 04:42:38 | jlo | i looked at some of the info at the zaurus developer site and was pretty impressed by what Sharp has put together |
| 04:43:51 | jlo | how do you use the zaurus in ways other than a basic PDA? |
| 04:44:44 | sjohnson | jlo: The Zaurus (or any Linux PDA) is a full computer with a small screen, and a limited input device (touch screen). |
| 04:45:04 | sjohnson | You can use it for any thing you use your imagination for. |
| 04:46:03 | sjohnson | For example, from the familiar mailing list. A fellow's router blew out. Hit replayTV can't connec to the next. So ... |
| 04:46:56 | sjohnson | He grabbed his IPAQ with a dual pcmcia sleeve, inserted an ethernet card and 802.11b card configured it as a router. Problem solved. Wife happy. :) |
| 04:47:40 | NeoTron | that is wicked |
| 04:48:34 | sjohnson | It wasn't a palm. but I dianoged and fixed a disk array with my palm III and the hotsync cradle. |
| 04:48:52 | sjohnson | Er, It wasn't a linux PDA, but... |
| 04:49:16 | sjohnson | These little handhelds are life savers for Admins. |
| 04:49:32 | jlo | Interesting. I would guess that the keyboard is not very useful for lengthy input. Do most people connect over a network interface to do configuration, etc.? |
| 04:49:59 | zero1 | anything you can do on linux you can do on the Z |
| 04:50:11 | zero1 | only memory nad storage is your limitation |
| 04:50:46 | sjohnson | jlo: The keyboard is a godsent. Try inputting a 5000 letter document using just graffiti. |
| 04:51:11 | jlo | No thanks. Would you enter that document with the Zaurus keyboard? |
| 04:51:27 | sjohnson | But being linux, you do a whole lot with just a little bit of memory. |
| 04:51:33 | zero1 | yep |
| 04:52:04 | sjohnson | jlo: If you had a choice between the two what would you choose? |
| 04:52:11 | zero1 | especially since they have 256M - 1G flash cards |
| 04:52:19 | zero1 | between 2 what? |
| 04:52:41 | sjohnson | grafitti or a tiny keyboard. |
| 04:52:50 | zero1 | ah |
| 04:53:15 | zero1 | after a bit i must say you can get pretty damn quick with the tiny keyboard |
| 04:53:18 | sjohnson | Or a saner example, using IRC with just handwriting recognition. |
| 04:53:20 | jlo | I am sure I would prefer the keyboard; I am just wondering what length of input is tolerable. |
| 04:53:27 | roge99 | you have both on the z ... no need to choose |
| 04:53:40 | roge99 | ;-) |
| 04:54:36 | zero1 | a can be sitting on the beach in my chair sipping on my magarita and i get a beep that i have a server problem - no biggy, just ssh into my mahcine with my Z and fit it. |
| 04:54:40 | sjohnson | roge99: Well before the Zaurus I only has the choice of a stroke recognizer or a virtual only screen keyboard. Neither one was any fun. |
| 04:54:59 | zero1 | fix |
| 04:55:26 | zero1 | do that with a palm pilot |
| 04:55:32 | zero1 | actually i guess you can |
| 04:56:35 | sjohnson | yes you can. But still same abysmal choices grafitti or a virtual keyboard. :-P |
| 04:56:58 | jlo | You don't need to sell me on Linux versus PalmOS. |
| 04:57:40 | jlo | zero1: Do you have a cellular plugin for the Z? |
| 04:58:20 | zero1 | no i'm waiting for http://www.sharpmobile.com or getting a cell phone that supports infrared |
| 04:58:30 | zero1 | i can't wait! |
| 04:58:40 | zero1 | after that, it's straight to the beach! |
| 04:59:00 | jlo | zero1: How would you connect from beach, or are you just imagining right now? |
| 05:00:25 | zero1 | imagining, but you can currently use a cell phone that supports infrared |
| 05:00:32 | jlo | when you power down the unit, does it suspend running applications or terminate them? |
| 05:00:39 | zero1 | suspend |
| 05:01:00 | zero1 | you can reboot and or turn completely off |
| 05:01:14 | zero1 | susupend = sleep |
| 05:01:44 | zero1 | i think i read it can sleep for 10 days without rechagring |
| 05:01:49 | zero1 | recharging |
| 05:02:00 | jlo | that's really nice |
| 05:02:13 | sjohnson | No wait for bluetooth. It will kicks IRDA's butt. |
| 05:02:36 | zero1 | i'm sure |
| 05:02:43 | sjohnson | Um No. Wait for.... |
| 05:02:46 | zero1 | but blue tooth won't work at the beach will it? |
| 05:03:08 | sjohnson | Why not? |
| 05:03:18 | zero1 | i don't know anything about blue tooth |
| 05:03:23 | zero1 | what's the scoop |
| 05:03:41 | zero1 | i've only heard of it |
| 05:03:57 | jlo | isn't bluetooth aimed at very short range communications? |
| 05:04:02 | sjohnson | It's basicall a replacement for IRA and cables. |
| 05:04:35 | sjohnson | A low power xmitters that have a 786K datachannel and 2 (IIRC) voice channels. |
| 05:04:35 | jlo | maybe if they put in 802.11 for public access at the beach |
| 05:04:58 | sjohnson | BT has a max range of 10m/30ft |
| 05:05:11 | zero1 | i thought for blue tooth you had to have a local transmitter |
| 05:05:26 | zero1 | well the beach is 5 miles away, i'm not that rich! |
| 05:05:38 | zero1 | i need cellular |
| 05:05:40 | roge99 | you would need a bt card in the z and a bt enabled phone |
| 05:05:52 | zero1 | oh |
| 05:06:00 | sjohnson | zero1: BT is for a PICO net. PDA -> phone -> notebook |
| 05:06:08 | zero1 | cool |
| 05:06:12 | sjohnson | headset -> phone (voice) |
| 05:06:12 | kend2-busy | cellular!!! |
| 05:06:13 | kend2-busy | wants |
| 05:06:44 | sjohnson | PDA to phone via Bluetooth and then Cellular. |
| 05:06:48 | zero1 | i'm wonder if this is going to be a good deal or a rip off - http://www.sharpmobile.com |
| 05:07:01 | sjohnson | Checkout www.bluetooth.org |
| 05:07:40 | kend2-busy | that gif (sharpmobile) is crufty :^P |
| 05:10:29 | jlo | how fast is the zaurus? What speed Pentium would it be comparable to? |
| 05:10:39 | Fastolfe | P1-200 I'd say |
| 05:11:20 | whardier | ahh |
| 05:11:22 | whardier | much better |
| 05:11:26 | whardier | has a new firewall |
| 05:11:36 | Fastolfe | congrats whardier |
| 05:11:37 | kergoth | whardier: congrats |
| 05:11:44 | whardier | it took a jump |
| 05:11:48 | kend2-busy | no defendguin for zaurus, then ;) |
| 05:11:53 | whardier | went from a 233mmx to a 600PIII |
| 05:12:05 | whardier | kind of overkill |
| 05:12:09 | kend2-busy | maybe Defendguin L1T3 |
| 05:12:10 | whardier | but I needed something stat |
| 05:12:13 | Fastolfe | All that trashy computer boomtalk man |
| 05:12:20 | whardier | and I have a PIII 600 laying around |
| 05:12:29 | kend2-busy | maybe i should call it "Defendguin: Frist Psot" |
| 05:12:33 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 05:12:41 | whardier | pingus would be a cool hackj |
| 05:12:42 | kend2-busy | that game's all about linux/unix geekdom |
| 05:12:49 | Fastolfe | lol- |
| 05:12:50 | Fastolfe | oops |
| 05:12:50 | kend2-busy | pingus might be cool, yeah :) |
| 05:12:54 | whardier | a 2d tuxracer would be cool too :) |
| 05:13:00 | kend2-busy | dude, why not 3d? |
| 05:13:03 | whardier | thats slow |
| 05:13:05 | kend2-busy | quake runs, no? |
| 05:13:08 | whardier | no |
| 05:13:10 | kergoth | yes, i want tuxracer on my z. thatd be nifty. |
| 05:13:10 | whardier | :) |
| 05:13:13 | whardier | quake crawls |
| 05:13:23 | whardier | tuxracer would be evil |
| 05:13:26 | whardier | heh |
| 05:13:33 | whardier | you would have to turn off everything |
| 05:13:36 | kend2-busy | hehe |
| 05:13:40 | Fastolfe | I'd like "snake" on the Zaurus |
| 05:13:40 | whardier | the snow would be a white solid |
| 05:13:42 | Fastolfe | no wait |
| 05:13:49 | whardier | you would not be able to see the track |
| 05:13:49 | whardier | hah |
| 05:13:53 | kend2-busy | 240x320 couldn't be THAT hard to do some, at least poly, 3d onto :) |
| 05:14:17 | whardier | kend2-busy no FPU! |
| 05:14:25 | kend2-busy | screw fpu! |
| 05:14:28 | whardier | no |
| 05:14:29 | kend2-busy | fixed-point all the way! hehehe |
| 05:14:32 | whardier | that is a sorta needed thing! |
| 05:14:42 | Fastolfe | I have a cuecat problem |
| 05:14:49 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:14:52 | Bala | you mean you own one? LOL |
| 05:14:53 | kend2-busy | oh come now... if my 1.79mhz atari can do a decent 10fps fullscreen doom demo :) |
| 05:14:57 | Fastolfe | I have an entire room full of fucking boxes |
| 05:16:00 | Fastolfe | I know |
| 05:16:15 | Fastolfe | I need to find a teenager to unpack them all and throw away the CDs and manuals |
| 05:16:39 | ljp | I'll get rid of one for you |
| 05:16:59 | Fastolfe | no wait, 1145 cuecat CD is bound to make for a cool art project of some sort |
| 05:17:12 | Fastolfe | ljp: yeah, I bet :) |
| 05:17:19 | ljp | glue them all together in a big stack |
| 05:17:20 | Bala | why do you have 1145 cucats?? |
| 05:17:28 | Fastolfe | Actually, I send them a lot to people abroad |
| 05:17:38 | Bala | send me one then |
| 05:17:39 | Bala | :) |
| 05:17:50 | Bala | im abroad.. |
| 05:17:50 | Fastolfe | Bala: To piss off DigitalConvergence, they tried to sue my ass over the Linux Cuecat driver, sonsabitches |
| 05:17:57 | Bala | ahh ok :) |
| 05:18:04 | Fastolfe | Bala: and because I want to build a small biz around barcodes |
| 05:18:09 | Bala | well arent they belly up now?? |
| 05:18:15 | Fastolfe | close enough |
| 05:18:24 | Fastolfe | they're moribund |
| 05:18:29 | sj_palm | Faftolfe: how far did they take it |
| 05:18:37 | ljp | because of the linux driver? :) |
| 05:18:57 | whardier | if there were a way I could get payed for OZ |
| 05:19:00 | whardier | I would quit my job |
| 05:19:03 | whardier | and dedicate myself |
| 05:19:07 | Bala | im serious.. i could use one.. they didnt give them away up here in Canada :( |
| 05:19:23 | Fastolfe | threats of litigation. My lawyer and I sent them a letter with the uncommented source code of the Cuecat driver printed very very small and asked them to tell us where I infringed their IP. They never responded :) |
| 05:19:35 | Fastolfe | Bala: if you pay for shipping |
| 05:20:13 | kergoth | whardier: agreed. heh. |
| 05:20:15 | Bala | if there was a way i could get payed for sex, id quit my job and dedicate myself... |
| 05:20:21 | kergoth | hah |
| 05:20:23 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 05:20:33 | Fastolfe | that's called "prostitution" bala |
| 05:20:40 | Fastolfe | you need to moved to NV for that |
| 05:21:11 | sj_palm | but not Vegas |
| 05:21:15 | Bala | yeah.. i said "I".. you havent seen me.. no one would pay for me :) |
| 05:21:15 | Fastolfe | yeah |
| 05:21:30 | Fastolfe | Bala: some ppl are into strange shit |
| 05:21:43 | Fastolfe | Bala: not that I'm thinking you're strange shit or anything :) |
| 05:21:44 | Bala | skinny geek fetishes huh?? |
| 05:21:44 | sjohnson | no you said 'i' not 'I' |
| 05:22:07 | Fastolfe | brb nicotine |
| 05:22:10 | kergoth | hrm |
| 05:22:13 | Bala | thats cause I'm e.e. cummings sjohnson |
| 05:22:14 | Bala | :) |
| 05:22:14 | kergoth | glibc 2.2.5 is out right? |
| 05:23:36 | kergoth | nm, yes it is |
| 05:23:37 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:23:44 | kend2-busy | anyone wanna fill out a survey on wireless stuff? |
| 05:24:07 | kend2-busy | does evansdata surveys on occasion - and they ask if i want to have them fwd the survey url to a friend |
| 05:24:08 | MSpin | kend2-busy: sure:) |
| 05:24:17 | kend2-busy | what's your e-mail? (if you don't mind them emailing you!) |
| 05:24:23 | MSpin | spam@mspin.net |
| 05:24:27 | kendrick2 | :) |
| 05:24:58 | kendrick2 | done |
| 05:25:02 | ljp | do theygive out free wireless stuff if we take that survey? |
| 05:25:42 | kendrick2 | no :) |
| 05:25:54 | kendrick2 | hey, with the rotation app, does one ipk need to be installed before the other? |
| 05:26:47 | kergoth | no, just dont use rotation applet prior to installing the rotation fonts or itll look funny :-P |
| 05:27:07 | kendrick2 | thx |
| 05:32:53 | Fastolfe | hmm |
| 05:33:26 | Fastolfe | I think I'm going to adapt my morse key hack to act as a bicycle sensor and turn the Z into a bike computer |
| 05:34:06 | kendrick2 | cool :) |
| 05:34:14 | kendrick2 | 'you biked xyz miles today... LOSER!' |
| 05:34:19 | Fastolfe | lo |
| 05:34:21 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 05:34:42 | Fastolfe | It'll be a bike computer you don't want to leave on your bike tho ;) |
| 05:38:34 | kendrick2 | works on Mad Bomber for Zaurus |
| 05:38:36 | kendrick2 | wish me luck |
| 05:38:40 | kend2-code | is away: coding! |
| 05:41:31 | zero1 | i keep getting booted, stop that! |
| 05:41:38 | zero1 | 8^) |
| 05:42:48 | kend2-code | shit |
| 05:42:52 | kend2-code | maybe not :^/ |
| 05:43:05 | kend2-code | argh :( |
| 05:43:14 | kend2-code | must've left the madbomber embedded code at work {sigh} |
| 05:43:51 | scanline | is back (gone 06:15:27) |
| 05:52:29 | kend2-code | considers creating Gem Drop Z :) |
| 06:03:19 | Fastolfe | whardier: you here ? |
| 06:03:44 | whardier | newp |
| 06:03:48 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 06:03:59 | Fastolfe | what channel did you say was the audio in ? |
| 06:04:02 | whardier | whats up turkey butt |
| 06:04:22 | Fastolfe | heh |
| 06:04:28 | whardier | left is in most cases mono out on any device.. because left and mono make sense together (both four letter words) |
| 06:04:35 | whardier | right is 5 letters |
| 06:04:40 | whardier | therefore it is micro in |
| 06:04:44 | whardier | you see my logic? |
| 06:04:53 | Fastolfe | so right == mike ? no wait ... |
| 06:04:56 | Fastolfe | k :) |
| 06:04:59 | Fastolfe | thanks |
| 06:05:03 | whardier | anyways |
| 06:05:10 | whardier | there is a pnumonic device for yah :) |
| 06:05:16 | Fastolfe | ? |
| 06:05:34 | whardier | pneumonic |
| 06:05:35 | whardier | sorry |
| 06:05:39 | Fastolfe | ?? |
| 06:05:39 | Fastolfe | :) |
| 06:06:25 | whardier | oh wait |
| 06:06:27 | whardier | thats the plauge |
| 06:06:30 | whardier | hehe |
| 06:06:31 | whardier | brb |
| 06:06:35 | whardier | word searching |
| 06:11:27 | whardier | HAH |
| 06:17:08 | whardier | Fastolfe it uh means.. a way to remember things |
| 06:17:09 | whardier | YOU KNOW! |
| 06:17:19 | Fastolfe | I didn't |
| 06:17:20 | Fastolfe | :) |
| 06:17:21 | whardier | haha |
| 06:17:23 | whardier | ok |
| 06:17:30 | whardier | I use it with numbers all the time |
| 06:17:35 | Fastolfe | I claim ignorance on the basis that I'm a French numbskull |
| 06:17:35 | whardier | to remember phone numbers |
| 06:17:43 | whardier | you know 2+4-8=6 |
| 06:17:55 | whardier | it makes sense when you try to remember 2486 |
| 06:18:16 | whardier | your a frenchie! |
| 06:18:17 | Fastolfe | oh yes |
| 06:18:29 | Fastolfe | oooohh |
| 06:18:34 | Fastolfe | you meant mnemotechnic |
| 06:18:37 | whardier | HAHA |
| 06:18:37 | Fastolfe | you jackass |
| 06:18:40 | whardier | thats the one |
| 06:18:44 | whardier | I could not remember :) |
| 06:18:46 | whardier | HAHAHA |
| 06:18:48 | Fastolfe | goodness gracious me |
| 06:19:00 | whardier | is happy he has a new firewall |
| 06:19:14 | Fastolfe | fire+wall=firewall |
| 06:19:14 | kend2-code | replaces countless SDL calls with dummy functs |
| 06:19:15 | whardier | the uh.. connection does not die every time the old one had to write to the disk |
| 06:19:42 | whardier | Fastolfe fast + alfe - alf = fastolfe |
| 06:20:01 | whardier | wow.. you are mr anonymity |
| 06:20:32 | whardier | all I could ever get from your browser in ym access logs is "you_dont_need_to_know_*" |
| 06:20:34 | Fastolfe | gee |
| 06:20:57 | whardier | who are you.. reaaally? |
| 06:21:08 | Fastolfe | I am ... |
| 06:21:13 | Fastolfe | <censored> |
| 06:21:24 | Fastolfe | does that answer your question ? |
| 06:22:49 | whardier | haha |
| 06:28:06 | Fastolfe | links his PC's audio and his Zaurus' audio |
| 06:31:47 | MSpin | say, when is the media player going to support streaming?:) |
| 06:32:28 | kend2-code | or mods :) |
| 06:32:29 | kend2-code | oh wait |
| 06:32:44 | MSpin | hehe |
| 06:32:55 | kend2-code | there's a modplugin, but doesn't work on zaurus :( :( :( |
| 06:32:59 | kend2-code | otherwise i'd be so set! |
| 06:35:19 | Fastolfe | BE AFRAID, ZAURUS, BE VERY AFRAID !!! |
| 06:35:28 | Fastolfe | approaches with the soldering iron |
| 06:35:37 | MSpin | oooo....JTAG? |
| 06:35:54 | Fastolfe | nnah :) |
| 06:36:18 | MSpin | that's how my TiVo will feel soon enuf:) |
| 06:36:48 | Fastolfe | where the hell did I put the roll of solder ??? |
| 06:37:10 | MSpin | A cadre of Zauri came and hid it in the night:) |
| 06:37:39 | Fastolfe | if this is so, punishment shall come their way |
| 06:37:47 | MSpin | lol |
| 06:37:51 | MSpin | what are you adding?> |
| 06:38:12 | Fastolfe | serial connection over audio |
| 06:38:17 | MSpin | oooo |
| 06:38:23 | Fastolfe | (since we can't get serial cables from sharp ...) |
| 06:38:31 | MSpin | on the SA1100 ssp? |
| 06:39:11 | Fastolfe | no, my own protocol with software |
| 06:39:11 | whardier | transparently proxy's himself |
| 06:39:15 | Fastolfe | fsk probably |
| 06:39:19 | MSpin | hrm, the SA has 4 serial ports, right? |
| 06:39:26 | Fastolfe | yeah |
| 06:39:40 | MSpin | audio, serial, ir, and? |
| 06:39:53 | whardier | I used uh.. wget for streaming :) |
| 06:39:56 | whardier | hehe |
| 06:39:59 | whardier | and a fifo |
| 06:40:04 | MSpin | heheh |
| 06:40:05 | Fastolfe | serial, serial ir and nothing :) |
| 06:40:05 | kend2-code | ? |
| 06:40:13 | whardier | mkfifo stream.mp3 |
| 06:40:14 | kend2-code | mp3s, whard? |
| 06:40:18 | kend2-code | no way! |
| 06:40:23 | kend2-code | shitty shit |
| 06:40:28 | kend2-code | runs to get his zaurus |
| 06:40:29 | Fastolfe | WHERE THE SHIT IS MY SOLDER !!! |
| 06:40:31 | whardier | wget http://streamcrap.la -O stream.mp3 |
| 06:40:36 | whardier | shitty shit? |
| 06:40:51 | MSpin | Fastolfe: why not jsut hook to the fourth serial port and add a level converter? |
| 06:41:22 | whardier | god I love strippers |
| 06:41:24 | Fastolfe | MSpin: I want to make a hack that people don't have to open their Z to use |
| 06:41:34 | MSpin | oh ok |
| 06:42:28 | whardier | it would be a treat to find the plug specs |
| 06:42:34 | whardier | and the plugs themselves |
| 06:42:40 | Fastolfe | it's on the sharpsec site |
| 06:42:46 | whardier | not the plugs |
| 06:42:49 | Fastolfe | yes the plug |
| 06:42:54 | Fastolfe | I have the PDF here |
| 06:42:56 | kend2-code | attempts whard's streamy thing |
| 06:43:06 | whardier | no I mean.. the physical plug |
| 06:43:09 | whardier | itself |
| 06:43:13 | Fastolfe | YES ! |
| 06:43:17 | whardier | with a little radio shack number attached to it |
| 06:43:23 | Fastolfe | lol |
| 06:43:25 | Fastolfe | actually |
| 06:43:41 | Fastolfe | with a little obscure Japanese manuf. code attached to it :) |
| 06:43:50 | whardier | really |
| 06:43:55 | whardier | so you can make your own hardware eh? |
| 06:44:00 | whardier | hmm |
| 06:44:02 | whardier | thinks |
| 06:44:05 | whardier | damn.. I broke it |
| 06:44:12 | Fastolfe | if you can get the damn plug-maker to ship you less than 1000, I spose |
| 06:45:12 | whardier | doh |
| 06:45:14 | whardier | no way |
| 06:45:14 | whardier | :( |
| 06:45:25 | kend2-code | can't find 'stream.mp3' |
| 06:45:34 | kend2-code | where should i put it? (~/Documents/audio ???) |
| 06:45:38 | whardier | haha |
| 06:45:43 | whardier | just as a test |
| 06:45:50 | whardier | background the wget |
| 06:45:57 | whardier | and run mediaplayer stream.c |
| 06:45:58 | whardier | err |
| 06:46:00 | whardier | .mp3 |
| 06:46:02 | whardier | whatever it is called |
| 06:46:14 | whardier | I was using madplay |
| 06:46:59 | kend2-code | hmm |
| 06:47:04 | kend2-code | "Please wait..." |
| 06:47:06 | kend2-code | :) |
| 06:47:15 | kend2-code | oh shit |
| 06:47:17 | kend2-code | wget unhappy |
| 06:47:21 | kend2-code | twiddles eth cable :^/ |
| 06:47:55 | kend2-code | i keep getting 'eth0' instead of my 192.168... ip >:^( argh |
| 06:48:05 | whardier | haha |
| 06:48:33 | kend2-code | i think it's just cuz my cable isn't crimped right, so it sees the netcard, but nothing beyond or something |
| 06:49:30 | whardier | well then |
| 06:49:34 | whardier | kend2-code the fifo will work |
| 06:49:43 | kend2-code | herm |
| 06:49:46 | kend2-code | z frozen >:^( |
| 06:49:59 | whardier | doheth |
| 06:50:03 | whardier | you might have ran out of memory :) |
| 06:50:22 | kend2-code | nah - nothing but netapp was running |
| 06:50:25 | whardier | oh |
| 06:50:28 | whardier | and a huge fifo |
| 06:50:50 | kend2-code | dude, it never connected anywhere |
| 06:51:31 | whardier | oh |
| 06:52:59 | MSpin | kend2-code: I'm sure Fastolfe could fix it with the soldering iron:) |
| 06:53:07 | Fastolfe | presto, it's fixed |
| 06:53:19 | Fastolfe | easy does it |
| 06:54:02 | Fastolfe | The damn janitor hauled my solder away, the little sod |
| 06:54:04 | Fastolfe | :( |
| 06:54:29 | MSpin | LOL |
| 06:55:03 | Fastolfe | i kid you not, what a retard |
| 06:55:09 | Fastolfe | he thought it was rubbish |
| 06:55:23 | MSpin | some people.... |
| 06:55:51 | MSpin | throw away his mop next time |
| 06:56:20 | whardier | hahaha |
| 06:56:20 | Fastolfe | Naah, I'll just kick him in the butt with a cowboy boot |
| 06:56:25 | whardier | haha |
| 06:57:12 | MSpin | hehe |
| 07:05:14 | kend2-code | fucking network app |
| 07:05:20 | kend2-code | why the fuck does it lock up like this!? |
| 07:05:25 | kend2-code | all i'm doing is asking it to remove entries |
| 07:05:36 | Fastolfe | what network app ? |
| 07:06:10 | kend2-code | the network app, in settings |
| 07:06:23 | Fastolfe | it locks up ?? |
| 07:07:00 | kend2-code | or something |
| 07:07:07 | kend2-code | stops responding for a very long time |
| 07:09:54 | kend2-code | finally! ping! |
| 07:09:55 | kend2-code | grrr |
| 07:10:52 | kend2-code | where can i get madplay? mpegplayer doesn't seem to like the fifo :( |
| 07:11:20 | Fastolfe | Cool, my attenuator cable works |
| 07:12:22 | kend2-code | whadier |
| 07:12:43 | kend2-code | i hate fucking ikonboard |
| 07:13:59 | kend2-code | goddamn, how many splinter zaurus sites do we need? >:^( |
| 07:14:14 | Fastolfe | more more more |
| 07:14:17 | Fastolfe | :) |
| 07:14:47 | kend2-code | ok, it's not on zauruszone |
| 07:14:51 | kend2-code | it's not on sourceforge |
| 07:14:54 | kend2-code | where is it? |
| 07:15:25 | Fastolfe | do you need madplay ? |
| 07:15:32 | Fastolfe | it's at handhelds.org |
| 07:15:43 | Fastolfe | it's a 'paq application |
| 07:15:51 | kend2-code | rolls eyes |
| 07:15:53 | Fastolfe | package i mean |
| 07:16:18 | Fastolfe | kend2-code: no pain no gain |
| 07:16:22 | kend2-code | :^P |
| 07:16:48 | Fastolfe | okay, I can plug my CD player into the Z and record things |
| 07:16:53 | Fastolfe | what a shweet deal |
| 07:17:07 | kend2-code | PIRATE! |
| 07:17:19 | Fastolfe | in mono ? methinks not :) |
| 07:17:26 | Fastolfe | and I can play at the same |
| 07:17:27 | Fastolfe | time |
| 07:17:36 | Fastolfe | it's time to get gcc cracking :) |
| 07:22:18 | Fastolfe | I think the janitor cleans up more than he should : my labelling machine has fanished too :( |
| 07:24:11 | kend2-code | attempts to install madplay |
| 07:24:16 | kend2-code | d'oh, won't install ons d card >:^( |
| 07:25:46 | kend2-code | crap! wget keeps bitching about a 'malformed status line' |
| 07:26:24 | Fastolfe | not good |
| 07:28:36 | kend2-code | w00t! |
| 07:28:46 | kend2-code | streams bjork |
| 07:29:14 | kend2-code | well.. i guess it's just a dl :^/ |
| 07:29:39 | Fastolfe | good man, very studly |
| 07:30:52 | kend2-code | bah! |
| 07:31:02 | kend2-code | mpegplayer complains "No appropriate decoders found for this file." |
| 07:31:03 | kend2-code | sighd |
| 07:31:09 | kend2-code | they just need to add stream capabilities |
| 07:31:10 | kend2-code | :) |
| 07:31:39 | Fastolfe | heh |
| 07:31:54 | Fastolfe | is this the qtopia multimediocre player ? |
| 07:33:06 | kend2-code | hahah |
| 07:33:07 | kend2-code | yes :^P |
| 07:33:12 | kend2-code | it could be a LOT better |
| 07:33:25 | Fastolfe | how great, my Z and my PC can talk together thru the audio plug :) |
| 07:36:42 | kend2-code | hehe |
| 07:36:44 | kend2-code | morse? |
| 07:37:23 | Fastolfe | no, 2400 bps |
| 07:37:43 | Fastolfe | with a ham pakrat program running both on the PC and the Z |
| 07:37:49 | Fastolfe | I hope to push it to 9660 |
| 07:37:51 | Fastolfe | 9600 |
| 07:38:31 | Fastolfe | hey, do you think a dtmf decoder would be cool on the Z ? |
| 07:38:38 | Fastolfe | to pick up phone numbers ? :) |
| 07:39:56 | kend2-code | :P |
| 07:39:57 | NeoTron | is away: sleep |
| 07:40:07 | kend2-code | runs off to code |
| 07:40:08 | Fastolfe | i'm serious! |
| 07:40:12 | Fastolfe | oh well |
| 07:40:18 | kend2-code | :) cye |
| 07:40:22 | kend2-code | cy_a_ |
| 08:44:14 | kendrick2 | I HATE QT! |
| 08:44:18 | kendrick2 | *huff* |
| 08:44:25 | kendrick2 | ok... got that off my chest :) |
| 08:44:29 | kendrick2 | gives up and goes to bed |
| 08:44:31 | kendrick2 | 'nite |
| 10:02:42 | mvip|work | anyone got the usb-driver for syncing with win98? |
| 11:03:01 | mark_ | does the zaurus use /etc/resume-scripts and startup-scripts please someone? |
| 11:41:08 | Triskelios | mark_: well, it most likely does use init scripts... |
| 11:59:45 | mark_ | Triskelios: does it use those though? |
| 12:00:55 | mvip|work | how are you guyes syncing your zaurus? (serial or usb)? |
| 12:01:00 | mvip|work | (win or linux) |
| 12:01:21 | Triskelios | mark_: I have never heard of "resume-scripts" |
| 12:01:35 | mark_ | :-) |
| 12:06:17 | Triskelios | mvip|work: USB would be the best idea, why? |
| 12:10:29 | mvip|work | Triskelios: where can i download the usb-driver for win98? |
| 12:11:04 | Triskelios | I think it's on the included CD |
| 12:11:14 | Triskelios | if not, I donno |
| 12:14:58 | mvip|work | Triskelios: do you have access to your cd there? |
| 12:29:46 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzzzz |
| 14:08:48 | bipolar | is back (gone 16:14:25) |
| 14:27:35 | JasonNJ | morning |
| 14:27:53 | finkployd | morning Jason |
| 14:50:25 | Twiun | Hi peeps |
| 15:21:18 | kergoth`work | re |
| 15:21:44 | roge99 | mornin kergoth`work |
| 15:23:28 | Twiun | Heya Kerg |
| 15:24:12 | s3b | Anyone here had problems with SSH eating up memory? |
| 15:25:46 | s3b | Using the Zaurus-SL5000 |
| 15:25:56 | s3b | hello? |
| 15:26:02 | s3b | exit |
| 15:26:04 | Triskelios | client running on the zaurus? |
| 15:26:23 | Triskelios | /quit is what you're looking for |
| 15:26:23 | s3b | I've had better luck running sshd |
| 15:26:27 | s3b | 8) |
| 15:26:39 | s3b | I'm running openssh-1.2.3 |
| 15:27:01 | Triskelios | hm |
| 15:27:04 | s3b | Basically I can scp hug files to the Zaurus from my linux box |
| 15:27:10 | s3b | (huge that is) |
| 15:27:55 | s3b | But when I try to download 'em off the Zaurus (on a cf card), I can only get about 4MB befor the memory "smacks of shortage" |
| 15:33:05 | s3b | No ideas? |
| 15:36:29 | [- | Anyone here having memory issues with the Zaurus? |
| 15:42:21 | argent | greetings all |
| 15:42:36 | whardier | greets |
| 15:42:44 | kergoth`work | mornin |
| 15:43:10 | whardier | figures out mac address based iptables stuff |
| 15:43:33 | [- | mornin |
| 15:44:39 | [- | I'm having some serious problems with memory shortages and the Zaurus. I've got a 128MB CF card and I just read through sharp's memory specs... |
| 15:45:05 | whardier | brb :) |
| 15:45:13 | [- | Any way to disable the file caching? I noticed a large amount of memory is being allocated to "buffers" when I type "free" |
| 15:46:29 | roge99 | (- that mem will be assigned to processes as needed |
| 15:48:13 | [- | One would think that... however, I run out of memory just trying to ftp or scp files FROM the Zaurus (anything over 4MB). |
| 15:49:14 | [- | Any idea why that is happening? My best guess is the sshd server on the Zaurus is trying to copy the files from the CF memory to RAM as a buffer and eating up all my mem then crashing when none is left. |
| 15:52:48 | whardier | oh this is sick |
| 15:52:51 | whardier | haha |
| 15:53:04 | whardier | figures out the ultimate wireles access system |
| 15:55:00 | kergoth`work | [-: i've seen similar behavior when initiating file transfers from the Z using various transfer methods. i suspect the same, that the apps are simply written to use a fair amount of mem. |
| 15:57:03 | whardier | -A PREROUTING -m mac --mac-source 00:10:E0:00:CE:82 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 |
| 15:57:07 | whardier | just change that a little |
| 15:57:10 | whardier | -A PREROUTING -m mac --mac-source 00:10:E0:00:CE:82 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 81 |
| 15:57:16 | whardier | where on port 81 is the access controller page |
| 15:57:17 | whardier | haha |
| 15:57:21 | whardier | the coolest thing |
| 15:57:32 | whardier | is that I can drop and allow macs thru -A FORWARD |
| 15:57:36 | whardier | wow |
| 15:57:38 | whardier | I love netfilter |
| 15:57:53 | kergoth`work | yes, netfilter is very cool. |
| 15:57:59 | Triskelios | yaaa |
| 15:58:02 | whardier | haha |
| 15:58:06 | whardier | you know what this is gonna do for me! |
| 15:58:51 | whardier | a ton.. now I can disable mac filtering on the access points in the hotel in alaska |
| 15:59:07 | whardier | and just route anybody that has not logged in.. into a web page that says.. hey.. login with your temp card you got at the desk |
| 15:59:29 | whardier | they log in and viola.. pay upfront |
| 15:59:30 | whardier | haha |
| 15:59:34 | [- | Whardier? Netfilter does rock, but what is the relevence here? |
| 15:59:41 | whardier | in this channel? |
| 15:59:47 | whardier | you have not been here long have you |
| 15:59:53 | whardier | I DON'T MAKE SENSE! |
| 15:59:54 | kergoth`work | [-: thats just whardier. dont mind his occasional offtopic rants. you get used to it. |
| 16:00:00 | kergoth`work | heh |
| 16:00:01 | [- | ;) |
| 16:00:04 | whardier | haha |
| 16:00:17 | [- | Only been here a short time and I'm already used to it. |
| 16:00:22 | whardier | besides.. if I only targeted this at a netfilter savy group.. then the few people that have not used it will never see its mervel |
| 16:00:50 | whardier | has been in a lot of snotty channels before.. |
| 16:01:00 | whardier | where people freak out if you say things like |
| 16:01:01 | whardier | LALALA |
| 16:01:02 | [- | So has anyone here got quake up and running on their Zaurus? |
| 16:01:28 | whardier | is that poseidons trident that is your nick |
| 16:01:32 | whardier | shouldn't iut be ]- |
| 16:01:35 | whardier | or something |
| 16:01:39 | bipolar | [-: When are you going to change your nick back to s3b? :) |
| 16:02:07 | [- | Probbly should eh? I'm surprised some other punk already has -=Poseidon=- |
| 16:02:30 | whardier | damn |
| 16:02:33 | whardier | you cannot n |
| 16:02:35 | whardier | err |
| 16:02:39 | whardier | /nick .. |
| 16:02:49 | _ | haha |
| 16:02:52 | _ | thats neat |
| 16:02:56 | kergoth`work | _: having fun yet? |
| 16:03:00 | whardier | tired |
| 16:03:02 | whardier | just woke up |
| 16:03:03 | [- | Loads of fun |
| 16:03:09 | whardier | and I already figured out mac filtering |
| 16:03:12 | whardier | runs around screaming |
| 16:03:22 | whardier | thus I am happalicious! |
| 16:03:30 | roge99 | whardier: when your done screaming ..... |
| 16:03:36 | whardier | yeah. |
| 16:04:17 | roge99 | the redirecting by mac in the hotel ... what if two people share the same room with differnt laptops ? |
| 16:04:27 | roge99 | would they need to pay twice |
| 16:04:37 | whardier | two people with two laptops? |
| 16:04:40 | roge99 | yea |
| 16:04:41 | whardier | yeah.. most likely |
| 16:04:51 | whardier | I could of course make cards for dual authorization |
| 16:05:00 | roge99 | ahh |
| 16:05:07 | roge99 | just a thought |
| 16:05:08 | whardier | so instead of 10 bucks for 12 hours |
| 16:05:10 | whardier | 15 or something |
| 16:05:22 | whardier | we are only on a t1 |
| 16:05:31 | whardier | so 2 people could theorhetically hog the whole damn thing |
| 16:05:39 | roge99 | yea this is true |
| 16:05:40 | whardier | I have QoS set up.. |
| 16:05:44 | whardier | but its on a P133 |
| 16:05:51 | whardier | it would have a hard time keeping up |
| 16:05:59 | roge99 | yea |
| 16:06:27 | roge99 | have you looked at the newer routing stuff |
| 16:06:36 | whardier | what are you referring to? |
| 16:06:42 | whardier | L3? |
| 16:06:58 | roge99 | hmmm its been a while since i looked at it |
| 16:07:23 | roge99 | you could assign classes by ip i think |
| 16:07:36 | whardier | I can do that with iproute |
| 16:07:40 | whardier | well |
| 16:07:41 | roge99 | right |
| 16:07:41 | whardier | iproute2 |
| 16:07:49 | whardier | is that what you are referring too? |
| 16:07:50 | roge99 | thats what im talkin about |
| 16:07:54 | whardier | ok |
| 16:08:03 | whardier | the delay loops it uses uses up too much processing power |
| 16:08:15 | roge99 | ahh |
| 16:08:15 | whardier | however.. since I am not dealing with full 100bt connections |
| 16:08:25 | whardier | I suppose it could fathomably work |
| 16:09:04 | whardier | I ping flooded thru a 100bt bridge running QoS and it used up 32% of a PIII 600 |
| 16:10:04 | whardier | aucg |
| 16:10:12 | kergoth`work | aucg? |
| 16:10:16 | sjohnson | whardier: You ain't seen nohting yet. Try that with a GigE card and watch the CPU come to it's knees |
| 16:10:20 | whardier | mandrake I keep seeing pepsi central when you log in |
| 16:10:27 | whardier | instead of pipe.cepstral.com |
| 16:10:37 | whardier | sjohnson haha |
| 16:10:46 | whardier | off topic: who runs 1000bt? |
| 16:10:47 | mandrake | well I assure you I do not work for pepsi :) |
| 16:10:55 | whardier | mandrake: if you did.. would you share? |
| 16:11:08 | whardier | my uncle worked for coke. |
| 16:11:16 | whardier | that sounds wrong doesn't it |
| 16:11:18 | mandrake | I don't drink soda anymore |
| 16:11:25 | mandrake | but I used to drink a lot of coke. |
| 16:11:34 | mandrake | I'd drink 2 liters like most people drink cans :) |
| 16:11:40 | whardier | haha |
| 16:11:52 | whardier | I have been drinking more beer lately than soda |
| 16:12:03 | kergoth`work | counts 16 empty cans on his desk in a nifty design |
| 16:12:13 | whardier | counts 10 bottles a clankin |
| 16:12:23 | whardier | my Qube is surrounded by beer |
| 16:12:27 | whardier | its protecting it |
| 16:12:34 | whardier | stand back from my might beer sheild! |
| 16:12:36 | kergoth`work | hah |
| 16:12:40 | kergoth`work | protecting it from what? |
| 16:12:53 | whardier | athiests |
| 16:13:06 | whardier | thats a joke. |
| 16:13:12 | whardier | see cause I could not think of anything |
| 16:13:15 | kergoth`work | hah. i think you're afraid sanity will come for you |
| 16:13:20 | kergoth`work | Sanity! thou shall not enter! |
| 16:13:22 | kergoth`work | or some shit |
| 16:13:24 | kergoth`work | heh |
| 16:13:27 | whardier | HAHA |
| 16:13:32 | whardier | slaps on the rubber pants of doom |
| 16:13:44 | whardier | GiR.. sing the doom song |
| 16:13:45 | whardier | !! |
| 16:14:20 | mandrake | I'm gonna sing the doom song now! o/` Doom doom, d-doom doom, d-doom doom DOOM! Doom d-doom, doom! Doom d-doom doom, d-doom doom doooooomm, d-d-DOOOM! Doom doom, d-doom doom d-doom doom doom! Doom! o/` |
| 16:14:26 | whardier | loves mandrake !!! |
| 16:14:27 | mandrake | the end. |
| 16:14:33 | whardier | BWA HA HA HA |
| 16:14:42 | mandrake | it's a shame they cancelled that show. |
| 16:14:44 | whardier | I have IZ movies if anybody wants them |
| 16:14:59 | mandrake | but at least there are 16 more episodes that have never been aired that nickelodeon has promised to air. |
| 16:15:03 | whardier | mandrake: we set up a public access channel in Alaska for a small island |
| 16:15:08 | whardier | and it was of course running X |
| 16:15:21 | whardier | when my buddy and I went home.. we logged in and played invader zim on it |
| 16:15:32 | whardier | so the whole island got to experience something they had NEVER seen |
| 16:15:33 | whardier | hah |
| 16:15:35 | whardier | it was a hoot |
| 16:15:43 | whardier | we also played most all the trigun episodes |
| 16:15:57 | whardier | 16 more episodes.. |
| 16:15:58 | mandrake | whardier: what format do you have zim in? |
| 16:16:02 | whardier | wow what a treat |
| 16:16:08 | whardier | mandrake: mostly divx encoded |
| 16:16:13 | mandrake | where are they? |
| 16:16:15 | mandrake | I'd like them :) |
| 16:16:19 | whardier | figured |
| 16:16:24 | mandrake | and do you have all 10 episodes that have been aired? |
| 16:16:25 | whardier | they always want what they cannot have |
| 16:16:28 | whardier | lemme check |
| 16:16:55 | whardier | lemme xfer them from my wireless here at home to the server at work |
| 16:23:32 | bipolar | JasonNJ: AFK? |
| 16:23:51 | whardier | he is not gonna tell you if he is |
| 16:23:55 | whardier | dies |
| 16:23:58 | bipolar | hehe |
| 16:24:59 | whardier | goes away in search of a cleaner mouth |
| 16:25:54 | finkployd-Zaurus | what has to be done to let the "install to cf or sd" options work on the installer? |
| 16:26:04 | whardier | in the new sharp roms |
| 16:26:06 | whardier | they are A ok |
| 16:26:11 | whardier | in OZ |
| 16:26:13 | whardier | they are F ok |
| 16:27:16 | finkployd-Zaurus | zic will not install to anything but ram seemingly |
| 16:27:47 | ljp_work | Ya, I'd like to know why some apps are able to install to cf, and others are not. seems like a bug in ipkg |
| 16:28:14 | finkployd-Zaurus | or in the way the packages are made |
| 16:28:48 | finkployd-Zaurus | I only really care now since I'm using 1.11 |
| 16:29:45 | whardier | you know what linux needs |
| 16:29:50 | whardier | a detachable FS |
| 16:45:03 | whardier | dhcp+dns is such a goooood thing |
| 16:48:50 | sjohnson | whardier: They alrady exist. |
| 16:49:05 | sjohnson | whardier: detachable FS's that is. |
| 16:49:33 | whardier | int what sense |
| 16:49:44 | whardier | I mean one that allows parts of itself to be detached] |
| 16:49:50 | whardier | so everything is one big drive! |
| 16:49:57 | whardier | is just being a complete nut! |
| 16:50:14 | whardier | I should add ftpfs into the OZ stuff |
| 16:50:19 | whardier | you guys would surely love it! |
| 16:50:20 | sjohnson | whardier: Sort of. You designate partition that are kept in sync. |
| 16:50:56 | sjohnson | If your detech from the network. The fs will track changes. When you are back on network. It will syncup the partitions. |
| 16:51:07 | whardier | neat |
| 16:51:17 | sjohnson | intermezzo. |
| 16:52:11 | bipolar | sjohnson: How about a file system for removalable media that lets you physicly remove the media without umounting? :) |
| 16:52:45 | whardier | write an exrtraction layer for mtools |
| 16:52:45 | sjohnson | bipolar: Not a clue. But it will be a neat trick is somebody does it. |
| 16:52:58 | whardier | so that you can read/write the vfat on a disk |
| 16:53:00 | whardier | without mounting it |
| 16:53:16 | whardier | brb |
| 17:10:44 | whardier | hmm |
| 17:10:55 | whardier | now to match MAC to QoS |
| 17:11:17 | whardier | with snat/dnat I should be able to.. just make a loop :) |
| 17:45:01 | bugfixer | anyone know what is up with Zaurus Zone? |
| 17:45:15 | whardier | is down with whats up |
| 17:45:19 | bugfixer | The server does not seem to be respondingf |
| 17:46:25 | wellstead | ah haha... rom 1.10 rocks!! irda connection with my phone finally works! |
| 17:47:15 | wellstead | zic rocks!! |
| 17:47:20 | wellstead | bye |
| 17:48:23 | | bugfixer: wish i knew |
| 17:48:24 | bugfixer | ibot: What is wrong with Zaurus Zone? |
| 17:51:44 | Neo|Work | is back (gone 15:22:27) |
| 18:37:23 | Hellaenergy | Is /dev/fd0 supposed to be a ln for psaux? |
| 18:37:59 | roge99 | /dev/fd0 is usually floppy 0 |
| 18:38:29 | Hellaenergy | fb |
| 18:38:32 | Hellaenergy | sorry |
| 18:38:36 | Hellaenergy | Frame Buffer |
| 18:41:15 | Hellaenergy | I am trying to do the demo for QTE and I cant start the damb ./start_demo |
| 18:41:33 | Hellaenergy | It stops at the very end of the script ./$DEMO..... |
| 18:41:56 | Hellaenergy | Cant open /dev/fb0 |
| 18:44:11 | Hellaenergy | what is the perm crw------? |
| 18:44:14 | Hellaenergy | c? |
| 18:45:07 | kergoth | Hellaenergy: character device |
| 18:45:30 | Hellaenergy | fake device? |
| 18:45:46 | kergoth | no |
| 18:45:51 | Hellaenergy | oh |
| 18:45:57 | kergoth | a type of device. character vs block |
| 18:46:05 | Hellaenergy | ahhh |
| 18:46:07 | bipolar_away | is away: I'm not here... Really... |
| 18:47:00 | Hellaenergy | I do have an NVida Card I think I read somwhere that there was problems with that card and the Virtual Frame Buffer |
| 18:48:15 | kergoth | you cant run qvfb? |
| 18:48:15 | bipolar | is back (gone 00:02:09) |
| 18:48:34 | Hellaenergy | no |
| 18:49:09 | Hellaenergy | I try to run the example/launcher/start_demo and I get a fb error coming back |
| 18:49:17 | whardier | yoyo yo |
| 18:49:20 | kergoth | can you run qfvb directly? |
| 18:49:23 | kergoth | sup whardier |
| 18:49:29 | kergoth | jffs2 on the Z rocks |
| 18:49:34 | Hellaenergy | dono |
| 18:49:41 | kergoth | the busybox i built for OZ has syslogd & klogd. nifty. |
| 18:49:42 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:49:47 | kergoth | Hellaenergy: try running it. 'qfvb' |
| 18:49:49 | kergoth | er |
| 18:49:51 | kergoth | qvfb even |
| 18:49:53 | bipolar | Hellaenergy: You need to have qvfb running before you try to run the demo. |
| 18:49:57 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:49:58 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:50:56 | Hellaenergy | Oh ok |
| 18:51:54 | Hellaenergy | Thanks again guys :) |
| 18:53:57 | kergoth | woot! |
| 18:54:06 | kergoth | whardier: the buildsystem can create a working rootfs now :-) |
| 18:54:10 | MEGASTeP | is back (gone 14:37:26) |
| 18:54:48 | kergoth | whardier: well, after you 'ln -s tty1 root/dev/console; cp /home/kergoth/roms/oldbuild/root_cramfs-beta2.6/root/home/etc/fstab root/etc;' since i havent added an OZ rootfs skeleton yet. |
| 19:05:34 | matrix_ | whoa.. |
| 19:05:41 | matrix_ | is zz down? |
| 19:05:50 | kergoth | so it seems |
| 19:05:51 | kergoth | sup matrix |
| 19:06:25 | matrix_ | not too much.. |
| 19:06:33 | matrix_ | I still haven't done anymore dev.. =b.. |
| 19:06:46 | matrix_ | in fact, my Z is still packed away in a box.. |
| 19:06:49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:07:01 | matrix_ | I've been doing a lot of reading about AI, neural coding, and stuff like that.. |
| 19:07:48 | kergoth | cool cool. i've always been interested in that stuff. im into the technology vs biology thing. using technology in biology, and basing technology on biology, both. heh. |
| 19:09:02 | matrix_ | you see this yet: http://uc.rutgers.edu/news/science/arthand.html |
| 19:09:22 | matrix_ | I just got done reading John Holland's book, emergence.. |
| 19:09:24 | matrix_ | it's really good.. |
| 19:15:07 | kergoth | whats the content of that book, primarily? |
| 19:15:10 | kergoth | havent read it |
| 19:15:34 | whardier | /wii John Holland? |
| 19:15:52 | whardier | wow! matrix_ ! |
| 19:16:12 | whardier | kergoth : I ma do a build |
| 19:16:26 | matrix_ | wii? |
| 19:16:30 | whardier | s it in CVS yet.. or in your dir? |
| 19:16:35 | whardier | hehe |
| 19:16:42 | whardier | matrix_ I was trying to be clever |
| 19:16:46 | matrix_ | John Holland = father of genetic algorithm.. |
| 19:16:52 | whardier | ahha |
| 19:17:04 | matrix_ | kergoth: emergence from complex systems.. |
| 19:17:25 | matrix_ | agents w/ simple rules creating... more.. |
| 19:17:33 | matrix_ | i.e. the rules of chess are simple.. |
| 19:17:50 | matrix_ | but strategy is something that emergeges from the simple rules.. |
| 19:18:01 | matrix_ | and just by examining the rules, you can't create strategy.. |
| 19:18:01 | whardier | vlans a wifi card |
| 19:18:15 | matrix_ | same w/ like.. ants -> ant colony |
| 19:18:23 | matrix_ | buyers/sellers -> economies |
| 19:18:28 | matrix_ | neurons -> conciousness.. |
| 19:18:30 | matrix_ | crap like that.. |
| 19:18:35 | kergoth | ah, i should check it out :-) |
| 19:18:41 | matrix_ | yeah, it's really good.. |
| 19:18:45 | whardier | sounds titilating |
| 19:18:55 | matrix_ | it lated my tits, alright.. |
| 19:18:59 | whardier | haha |
| 19:19:49 | whardier | lated |
| 19:19:53 | whardier | you late me |
| 19:20:05 | matrix_ | or at least your tits |
| 19:20:39 | whardier | you late my tits |
| 19:21:29 | kergoth | whardier: the cvs will work, just after you cvs co buildroot-oz, do a 'cp -a /home/kergoth/roms/buildroot-oz/skel/* buildroot-oz/root/' to establish the skeleton fs. then you can do a make openzaurus. |
| 19:21:45 | whardier | otay! |
| 19:21:53 | kergoth | whardier: its still very basic.. no ipkg, no qtopia/opie, etc.. but it functions, so its nifty |
| 19:21:57 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:22:03 | whardier | neet! |
| 19:22:10 | whardier | will check it out RIGHT FUCKING NOW |
| 19:23:21 | sjohnson | kergoth: You should add the 'cp -a ...' to the Makefile. |
| 19:23:48 | kergoth | sjohnson: oh i'll be tgzing hte skeleton and including it in cvs.. automatically extracted into the rootfs when you build |
| 19:24:09 | kergoth | sjohnson: i'm still putting together the various bits that need to be in the skeleton, so i havent bothered yet |
| 19:34:06 | Twiun | Anyone here have access to IE5.5 on nt4? |
| 19:35:38 | Twiun | Argh... nm - have to rush out... |
| 19:52:31 | whardier | finds his way elsewhere |
| 20:05:03 | BigBoss | howdy |
| 20:05:46 | Neo|Work | heya |
| 20:06:33 | Neo|Work | did you ever get networking working again? |
| 20:09:10 | ljp_work | hey BB: I heard tkc had some new apps soon... ? |
| 20:11:04 | BigBoss | yes, we are testing them now |
| 20:11:22 | bipolar | BigBoss: What kind of things? |
| 20:11:22 | BigBoss | neo: no I didn't |
| 20:11:26 | BigBoss | not sure what is wrong |
| 20:11:55 | Neo|Work | strange |
| 20:12:47 | peanutz | argh.. split |
| 20:13:42 | peanut | argh.. |
| 20:22:15 | BigBoss | gotta run |
| 20:37:34 | scanline | is back (gone 08:07:48) |
| 20:46:52 | whardier | zeros? |
| 20:47:04 | zeros | well, someone else has my nick! |
| 20:47:31 | zeros | i like the xsh, neato |
| 20:48:09 | whardier | xsh? |
| 20:48:17 | zeros | i mean zsh |
| 20:48:21 | whardier | ahha |
| 20:48:26 | whardier | zero1? |
| 20:48:35 | zeros | yep |
| 20:48:36 | whardier | ok |
| 20:48:41 | whardier | that makes more sense |
| 20:49:03 | zeros | actually i'll start using my aim handle |
| 20:49:13 | whardier | zerokewl! |
| 20:49:14 | whardier | heh |
| 20:49:34 | Neo|Work | an aim handle w/o 1313331 numbers attached? :P |
| 20:49:34 | codemnky | so i'll use this for now on |
| 20:50:05 | whardier | you are so thirty one thousand three hundred and thirty seven |
| 20:50:18 | codemnky | so what's going on in Z land? i think you said you were going to send me a beter image for openzaurus.org ? |
| 20:50:30 | whardier | codemnky I did not need to |
| 20:50:35 | codemnky | ok |
| 20:50:35 | whardier | I had opera at 90% scale |
| 20:50:41 | whardier | that is why it looked bunk to me |
| 20:50:42 | codemnky | heh |
| 20:51:07 | codemnky | so make some more images when you get some free time |
| 20:51:09 | codemnky | :) |
| 20:51:27 | codemnky | menu and stuff, also openzaurus needs a tag line |
| 20:51:27 | whardier | will doo |
| 20:51:30 | Neo|Work | what is that little creature anyway? |
| 20:51:36 | whardier | openzaurus - enough with the sucking |
| 20:51:41 | codemnky | heh |
| 20:56:45 | whardier | openzaurus - we extend our pinkys when we sip our tea |
| 20:56:45 | codemnky | you should make the little guy shooting the finger |
| 20:56:45 | whardier | finger or fire? |
| 20:56:45 | codemnky | flipp'n the bird |
| 20:56:45 | codemnky | that might not go over well |
| 20:56:47 | codemnky | we can detect the broswer and show tht image to micro$oft users |
| 20:56:47 | codemnky | :P |
| 20:56:49 | whardier | true that! |
| 20:56:49 | whardier | oingo boingo |
| 20:58:02 | Mallory | wang chung |
| 20:58:16 | codemnky | when is the next expected release of openZ going to be out? |
| 20:58:24 | whardier | AUGH! |
| 20:58:30 | codemnky | :) |
| 20:58:36 | whardier | AUGH! |
| 20:58:47 | whardier | my pop3 daemon is non case sensative on usernames! |
| 20:58:52 | whardier | I guess that helps out a shitload |
| 20:58:55 | whardier | but SHIT! |
| 20:58:57 | whardier | you know! |
| 20:59:10 | codemnky | what popd are you using? |
| 20:59:17 | codemnky | sounds like bill gates made it |
| 20:59:53 | whardier | HAHA |
| 20:59:54 | whardier | I know |
| 20:59:55 | codemnky | damnit, time for me to go shave my dog, i'll be back |
| 20:59:58 | whardier | ? |
| 21:00:06 | codemnky | brb |
| 21:00:11 | codemnky | that was a joke |
| 21:00:36 | whardier | brb |
| 21:34:35 | bipolar_away | is away: I'm not here... Really.... |
| 22:04:07 | JasonNJ | hey. |
| 22:04:19 | JasonNJ | anyone with a big ass net pipe they would be willing to lend me? |
| 22:04:26 | Neo|Work | Yes |
| 22:04:38 | JasonNJ | like, for hosting that ISO I put up on Zauruszone? |
| 22:04:47 | JasonNJ | cause so many people hit my server that it crashed it hard |
| 22:04:50 | Neo|Work | sure. |
| 22:05:03 | JasonNJ | ok I will be updating this like once every week or so. |
| 22:05:59 | JasonNJ | NeoTron: send me the FTP access info to perlowj@sharpsec.com |
| 22:08:31 | Aelfweld | what iso is that? |
| 22:09:26 | Neo|Work | wtf |
| 22:09:34 | Neo|Work | mozilla !@#!@# segfaults |
| 22:11:03 | whardier | JasonNJ I can |
| 22:11:09 | whardier | OC3 down in colorado |
| 22:12:14 | ljp_work | I got a 56k modem here at work :) |
| 22:12:48 | dkl_meeting | cool, the developer ISO has the updated 1.11 romimage in a contrib dir |
| 22:13:58 | Mallory | Jason: I could but we'd probably throttle it. |
| 22:14:08 | Mallory | If you really need some bandwith let me know (if you don't get any other offers). |
| 22:14:12 | kendrick2 | wants to post jason's handango news to linuxdevices.com |
| 22:14:19 | kendrick2 | but sharp and handango sites dont seem to have any details yet |
| 22:14:21 | dkl | I noticed that the qtopiadesktop.tgz file is not included in the ISO. JasonNJ is this intentional? |
| 22:14:30 | kendrick2 | and the sf list archive doesnt have the message yet :( |
| 22:16:36 | bipolar | is back (gone 00:42:00) |
| 22:17:20 | kendrick2 | finds the post via sf's new archives |
| 22:17:32 | matrix__ | whoa.. |
| 22:17:43 | kergoth | matrix__: ? |
| 22:17:54 | matrix_ | I'm IRCing via trillian.. |
| 22:18:01 | matrix_ | someone /msg me something |
| 22:18:10 | kergoth | i use trillian when im in windows |
| 22:18:11 | kergoth | its nifty |
| 22:18:22 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:18:41 | kendrick2 | what's trillian? |
| 22:18:51 | matrix_ | www.trillian.cc |
| 22:19:02 | matrix_ | it's an all-in-one IM/IRC dealie for windows.. |
| 22:19:10 | matrix_ | ICQ/AIM/MSN/yahoo/IRC |
| 22:19:25 | matrix_ | and it supports blowfish encryption layers.. over the ICQ and AIM protocols.. |
| 22:19:34 | kendrick2 | posts |
| 22:19:39 | kendrick2 | ah - windows |
| 22:19:41 | kendrick2 | yawns :) |
| 22:19:51 | matrix_ | heh |
| 22:19:54 | kendrick2 | if i had cellular wireless, i'd be all over tkcJabber |
| 22:19:58 | kendrick2 | but for now, i'll stick to Zic |
| 22:20:39 | matrix_ | what are you using now? bitchX? |
| 22:20:47 | kendrick2 | ircII |
| 22:20:52 | kendrick2 | i use xchat most of the time at home, tho |
| 22:21:14 | matrix_ | when I'm at work, I'm always SSHed into a shell somewhere else.. running bitchX.. |
| 22:21:57 | matrix_ | just because EFnet likes to have proper ident responces.. which our firewall doesn't like.. |
| 22:23:32 | kendrick2 | yeah :^/ |
| 22:23:42 | kendrick2 | takes, like, 2 mins sometimes to connect to some servers from home |
| 22:23:59 | matrix_ | yeah.. I just leave myself connected all the time and detach.. |
| 22:24:07 | kendrick2 | posts a few zaurus articles to usenet (comp.sys.[palmtops/handhelds]) |
| 22:24:10 | matrix_ | I really should set up a bnc or something.. but.. *sigh*.. I'm lazy.. |
| 22:25:59 | kendrick2 | jason - mind if i post that message verbatim to usenet? |
| 22:27:29 | kendrick2 | too late :) |
| 22:27:42 | kendrick2 | posted to comp.os.linux.misc, comp.sys.handhelds, comp.sys.palmtops and comp.os.linux.announce |
| 22:41:54 | dragorn | got his 802.11b card today |
| 22:42:19 | dkl | dragorn: which one did you get? |
| 22:42:39 | dkl | is shopping around for a 802.11b CF card |
| 22:42:51 | whardier | RewriteEngine On |
| 22:42:51 | whardier | RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://zope.umgllc.net:9080/$1 [L,P] |
| 22:42:54 | whardier | that is damn clever |
| 22:43:03 | whardier | damn damn clever |
| 22:43:04 | dragorn | Linksys |
| 22:43:14 | dragorn | $108 on amazon |
| 22:43:35 | dkl | thankx |
| 22:43:45 | dragorn | Works fine for me w/ my linksys wap |
| 22:43:52 | dragorn | and the sniffer works as expected |
| 22:45:04 | file | is shopping for an inexpensive digital camera |
| 22:45:11 | dragorn | I'm still trying to figure out why my package installs correctly but doesn't show up in the zaurus software installer tho. |
| 22:45:28 | dragorn | file: It's not necessarily "cheap" but I love my canon s110 |
| 22:45:36 | file | good for you |
| 22:45:43 | file | is cheap'o |
| 22:45:52 | dragorn | file: It's a good investment, depending on what you're going for, is what I meant. |
| 22:46:05 | file | I just want something that takes pictures |
| 22:46:16 | dragorn | Circuit city has usb-only ultra cheap $25 crap digital cameras |
| 22:46:23 | dragorn | I think they do 640x480 |
| 22:46:34 | file | my computer's old, I can only dream of USB |
| 22:46:44 | file | but on compgeeks.com I can get a digital camera for $22.50, serial |
| 22:46:54 | dkl | I have found the DLink DCF-650W for as low as 84.00 on www.pricewatch.com |
| 22:47:13 | dragorn | dkl: I've heard good things about that one, too. it's all the prism2 chipset anyhow |
| 22:47:17 | dkl | 99.00 direct from DLink |
| 22:47:25 | dkl | yeah |
| 22:48:58 | file | dragorn: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=LMINI350-SS-YB |
| 22:49:08 | file | Are you looking for an inexpensive digital camera? We have plenty here! This 640x480 resolution digital camera by Largon Digital actually puts out some pretty good pictures! Take a look at the samples we took with it below! |
| 22:50:11 | dragorn | file: That looks like what circuit city has, yeah |
| 22:51:04 | dragorn | Wow, that is surprisingly good |
| 22:51:10 | file | yup |
| 22:51:14 | whardier | nope |
| 22:51:23 | file | what whardier> |
| 22:51:24 | file | ? |
| 22:51:27 | kergoth | i picked up a 1.2mb hp digital camera for $120. cheap, but effective |
| 22:51:30 | kergoth | eh |
| 22:51:48 | file | uh huh |
| 22:52:00 | file | turns up the stereo |
| 22:52:04 | file | yeah yeah |
| 22:53:16 | BigBoss | ok - sales have been slowing down - who here hasn't bought one of our embedded apps yet? :) |
| 22:53:29 | kergoth | i havent yet. planning on it tho :-) |
| 22:53:38 | kendrick2 | is ranting about tkcPainter :) |
| 22:53:42 | dkl | i bought Mahjong |
| 22:53:50 | file | BigBoss: me |
| 22:53:55 | file | BigBoss: cause I'm Canadian and it costs too much |
| 22:53:57 | kendrick2 | there was a tkcBundle review on LinuxDevices. |
| 22:54:08 | kendrick2 | I just posted to the group, as well as to a few linux- and pda-newsgroups :) |
| 22:54:10 | BigBoss | they reviewed almost all of our stuff |
| 22:54:21 | BigBoss | we actually did some good sales |
| 22:54:25 | kendrick2 | he didn't review the jabber thing, which is odd... cant one get a net connection via USB cradle!? |
| 22:54:27 | BigBoss | ranting or raving? |
| 22:54:28 | file | crys |
| 22:54:30 | kendrick2 | is ranting :) |
| 22:54:33 | file | us Canadians are always left out! |
| 22:54:39 | kendrick2 | won't waste $$ on tkcpainter cuz Scrap Paper is good enough |
| 22:54:45 | BigBoss | as a canadian you are allowed to purchase |
| 22:54:55 | BigBoss | sure, if you carry crayons with you :) |
| 22:54:57 | file | BigBoss: stupid exchange rate. |
| 22:55:05 | file | BigBoss: what's the cost US? |
| 22:55:05 | kendrick2 | until tkcPainter surpasses it (see my post, about to go to zaurus-general in a few seconds)... |
| 22:55:17 | BigBoss | it doesn't fluctuate that much does it? |
| 22:55:20 | kendrick2 | bboss - sorry... free won in this case :) |
| 22:55:27 | file | BigBoss: I'll tell you... |
| 22:55:47 | file | somebody tell me how much a Zaurus costs and I'll convert it to CAD |
| 22:55:53 | BigBoss | $399 |
| 22:56:06 | file | $650 |
| 22:56:19 | kendrick2 | ouch |
| 22:56:21 | BigBoss | kendrick2: you should just buy the bundle while it's cheap, then you won't care about the painter |
| 22:56:26 | kendrick2 | bboss :^P |
| 22:56:28 | file | yes... ouch |
| 22:56:29 | BigBoss | but that is $650 Canadian |
| 22:56:31 | kendrick2 | i already bought mahjongg |
| 22:56:35 | file | BigBoss: yeah |
| 22:56:37 | BigBoss | your salary is different too isn't it? |
| 22:56:40 | kendrick2 | hey - mahjongg should let me use my own jpgs! |
| 22:56:50 | file | salary? |
| 22:56:53 | kendrick2 | heh |
| 22:56:58 | file | doesn't work |
| 22:57:05 | file | I probably won't till I turn 16 |
| 22:57:42 | file | <silence> |
| 22:57:43 | whardier | bbbbbret! |
| 22:57:46 | whardier | t |
| 22:57:48 | kendrick2 | so for about 2.5yrs out LUG has touted that 'donations are tax-deductable' |
| 22:57:48 | brett_ | yo yo |
| 22:57:50 | file | yes I'm young! I'm youngest here probably! MUAHAHAHAHAHA! |
| 22:57:51 | kendrick2 | but they arne't. D"OH! |
| 22:57:52 | file | I'll live longer! |
| 22:57:53 | file | HAHAHAHA |
| 22:57:56 | brett_ | Someone's been using my nick |
| 22:58:04 | kergoth | sup brett |
| 22:58:05 | BigBoss | I've been coding longer than you've been alive :) |
| 22:58:09 | kendrick2 | hahah |
| 22:58:11 | file | BigBoss: oh good |
| 22:58:13 | brett_ | yo kergoth |
| 22:58:14 | whardier | brett_: I found a 2.4ghz reflector |
| 22:58:21 | brett_ | No way |
| 22:58:25 | whardier | Yeah way |
| 22:58:30 | brett_ | Url? |
| 22:58:33 | whardier | no Url; |
| 22:58:41 | brett_ | Is it just a mirror? :)_ |
| 22:58:41 | whardier | waiting on the guy that told em about it to get me one |
| 22:58:44 | kendrick2 | need to register nicks, fool |
| 22:58:49 | whardier | brett_: its a parabolic dish |
| 22:58:55 | brett_ | I have it registered kend. :) Just bitching. |
| 22:58:56 | whardier | about 10dbi loss |
| 22:58:59 | file | hrm, interesting |
| 22:58:59 | kendrick2 | -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized |
| 22:59:01 | kendrick2 | :) |
| 22:59:08 | file | whardier: I'll be sure to call the FCC |
| 22:59:13 | matrix_ | heh |
| 22:59:16 | whardier | file: go right ahead :) |
| 22:59:16 | sjohnson | brett_: You can kick the offernder off using nickserv |
| 22:59:32 | file | lol |
| 22:59:35 | whardier | whardier: if I order it.. and make it myself.. I can make up to 5.. liscence free :) |
| 22:59:37 | brett_ | I know sjohnson. :) |
| 22:59:38 | kendrick2 | i really don't like qt :( |
| 22:59:42 | kendrick2 | or C++ |
| 22:59:44 | file | ductape is like the force, it has a dark and light side and holds the universe together |
| 22:59:45 | sjohnson | file: No need. It's unlicensed spectrum. So long as he doesn't add a power amp. |
| 22:59:49 | brett_ | kendrick2: amen |
| 22:59:54 | file | sjohnson: I thought he would |
| 23:00:04 | brett_ | whardier: How much? |
| 23:00:07 | kendrick2 | like... i really enjoy using qt apps... |
| 23:00:24 | brett_ | kendrick2: Old dog, new tricks eh? |
| 23:00:26 | kendrick2 | but last night, i was in SUCH a bad mood after trying to port one of my games to use some Qt wrapper stuff... |
| 23:00:37 | kendrick2 | i had to play a few rounds of defendguin to feel better :) |
| 23:00:46 | kendrick2 | hey! i'm not THAT old! :) |
| 23:00:52 | file | each song is like a stick of butter! |
| 23:00:53 | kendrick2 | not even 27 yet :) |
| 23:00:55 | file | hold onto your butts |
| 23:00:58 | file | ready, set, GO |
| 23:01:00 | file | let's go |
| 23:01:04 | brett_ | My main beef with c++ and qt is that I never learned either. And I don't like redoing basics. :) |
| 23:01:04 | file | standby for identification |
| 23:01:08 | file | K94.5 Moncton's Newest Music |
| 23:01:13 | kendrick2 | brett :) |
| 23:01:16 | file | spits out useless data |
| 23:01:18 | whardier | brb |
| 23:01:22 | kendrick2 | i want sdl, damnit! but overcode's been busy with school and stuff |
| 23:01:24 | whardier | have to reboot to get rid of this ugly mount |
| 23:01:28 | kendrick2 | and SHARP never sent him a free zaurus ;) ;) |
| 23:01:41 | file | can I have a free zaurus? |
| 23:01:45 | file | :) |
| 23:02:00 | file | actually no |
| 23:02:04 | file | I have too many things to do as it is |
| 23:02:06 | kendrick2 | heh |
| 23:02:22 | BigBoss | i thought sdl for the Z was already done |
| 23:02:30 | kendrick2 | nope :^/ |
| 23:02:31 | file | rewriting a proprietary operating system and developing for another PDA takes up most of my spare time |
| 23:03:34 | file | hrm, I just seem to have the effect of sedating people just by saying something |
| 23:04:20 | brett | wee |
| 23:04:36 | kergoth | brett: you have the build commands to crosscompile wlan-ng offhand? |
| 23:04:46 | kergoth | brett: and did you ever test the new wlan stuff? |
| 23:04:48 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:04:48 | brett | someone just called my number by mistake from their cellphone |
| 23:04:51 | brett | kergoth: Hang on |
| 23:05:00 | brett | I'm listening to them now. I think the phone's in their pocket |
| 23:05:09 | kergoth | hah |
| 23:05:15 | brett | I love it when this happens. |
| 23:05:37 | file | lol |
| 23:05:49 | brett | They're watching tv |
| 23:06:04 | file | uh huh |
| 23:06:25 | sjohnson | kergoth: No . All it takes if a bit of source code patching to xcomile wlan-ng drivers. |
| 23:06:38 | kergoth | sjohnson: how much patching are we talking about? |
| 23:06:45 | brett | kergoth, I haven't had a chance to work on it all week. I've been slammed. I'm gonna see if I can wrap it up today |
| 23:06:59 | kergoth | brett: ah ic.. k |
| 23:07:06 | sjohnson | kergoth: Just adding in a few #defined to wlan_compat.h |
| 23:07:11 | brett | kergoth: Do you know what they changed in the sharp version of wlan-ng? The utils on the Z report a -shp extention. |
| 23:07:11 | kendrick2 | my zaurus isn't turning itself off |
| 23:07:20 | brett | I'm thinking it may just be the extra entries. |
| 23:07:24 | kergoth | brett: sharp released their wlan-ng source |
| 23:07:27 | brett | kendrick2: Mine has been doing that since I upgraded. |
| 23:07:29 | kergoth | brett: do a diff |
| 23:07:31 | kergoth | brett: heh |
| 23:07:39 | brett | kergoth: I will, just curious if you'd heard anything. |
| 23:07:56 | kergoth | brett: ah.. nope |
| 23:08:07 | Neo|Work | sugar what is 399 USD in CAD |
| 23:08:09 | Sugar | 399 US$ is 638.40002 CAD |
| 23:08:17 | Neo|Work | for future reference... :P |
| 23:08:42 | file | Sugar: I was darn close! |
| 23:08:49 | kendrick2 | i wonder if madplay is the cause |
| 23:09:30 | MEGASTeP | has been toying with the idea of a SDL driver for the Z |
| 23:09:32 | Neo|Work | file: she has a lot of different currencies. :P |
| 23:09:46 | brett | kergoth: How is oz shaping up? |
| 23:09:49 | kendrick2 | megastep - overcode has been working on it for ipaq |
| 23:09:55 | file | Neo|Work: bah |
| 23:09:55 | MEGASTeP | I know |
| 23:10:04 | file | sugar what is 1 USD in CAD |
| 23:10:06 | Sugar | 1 US$ is 1.6 CAD |
| 23:10:07 | MEGASTeP | I talked to him about it |
| 23:10:12 | file | it's wrong!\ |
| 23:10:22 | sjohnson | kergoth: I add #defines for __arm__ CONFIG_ARM CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINGLOCK |
| 23:10:44 | MEGASTeP | how easy is it to get access to the framebuffer on the Z? is there a Qtopia API? |
| 23:10:45 | sjohnson | kergoth: er, CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK :) |
| 23:10:50 | Neo|Work | sugar what is 10 USD in CAEA |
| 23:10:52 | Neo|Work | sugar what is 10 USD in CAD |
| 23:10:52 | Sugar | In what? |
| 23:10:54 | Sugar | 10 US$ is 16 CAD |
| 23:11:04 | file | 1 USD = 1.59113 CAD |
| 23:11:07 | Neo|Work | anyhow, the currencies are updated dailt |
| 23:11:21 | Neo|Work | sugar what is 1.59113 |
| 23:11:23 | Sugar | It's 1.591130. |
| 23:11:32 | Neo|Work | UPDATE currencies SET num_per_dollar=1.591 WHERE symbol='CAD'; |
| 23:11:41 | Neo|Work | sugar what is 1000 USD in CAD |
| 23:11:43 | Sugar | 1000 US$ is 1600 CAD |
| 23:11:51 | Neo|Work | I'm not sure why it's aproximated |
| 23:12:09 | kendrick2 | reboots. |
| 23:12:12 | kendrick2 | sees if that fixes it |
| 23:13:21 | brett | NeoTron: Does it use bc for math? |
| 23:14:01 | Neo|Work | no |
| 23:14:08 | kendrick2 | sleeps now |
| 23:14:15 | kendrick2 | musta been some net- or madplay- related something :^/ |
| 23:14:49 | kendrick2 | it still takes a few seconds to actually suspend, tho |
| 23:14:57 | kendrick2 | (ie, screen is still there, but nothing works) |
| 23:15:06 | kendrick2 | brb |
| 23:17:28 | BZFlag | ibot change 1000 USD to CAD |
| 23:17:31 | | BZFlag: 1,590.82 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 1 (Dollar (CAD)) |
| 23:17:43 | BZFlag | heh. gt the right number, but in th ewrong place. |
| 23:18:15 | whardier | ibot change 1 USD to CAD |
| 23:18:18 | | whardier: 1.59079 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 1 (Dollar (CAD)) |
| 23:18:24 | whardier | hehehe |
| 23:18:48 | BigBoss | Well there are about 40,000 romanian dollars to the US dollar |
| 23:18:54 | brett | whardier: I cut my hair short. |
| 23:19:07 | brett | whardier: I look like Don Johnson from Miami Vice now. |
| 23:19:33 | whardier | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:19:35 | whardier | OH SHIT! |
| 23:19:39 | whardier | LEMME SEE! |
| 23:20:02 | brett | No pics yet |
| 23:20:08 | brett | Well, at least that I'd want to show. |
| 23:20:32 | Neo|Work | Ah. I think sugar used an old table |
| 23:20:35 | bipolar_away | is away: I'm not here... Really.... |
| 23:20:36 | Neo|Work | sugar what is 1 USD in CAD |
| 23:20:38 | Sugar | 1 US$ is 1.591 CAD |
| 23:21:13 | brett | sugar what is love? |
| 23:21:47 | brett | I broke it |
| 23:22:07 | Neo|Work | sugar what is 100 ft in cm |
| 23:22:09 | Sugar | 100 foot is 3048 cm |
| 23:26:43 | kergoth | yawns |
| 23:29:13 | brett | These wlan guys need to release something new. |
| 23:29:26 | brett | 0.1.13-pre1 is still the newest version.[ |
| 23:30:37 | Guest | Does anybody know the best 10/100 CF ethernet card to get--best for the money? |
| 23:30:48 | kergoth | Guest: want to shut off bold? |
| 23:30:49 | brett | Guest: Wireless? |
| 23:31:03 | Guest | sorry |
| 23:31:43 | Guest | there is no 10/100 wireless |
| 23:32:17 | Neo|Work | 100 Mbps wireless? :P Wouldn't that be nice. |
| 23:32:47 | Guest | 802.11a would be 55Mbps, but it's not getting off the ground too well |
| 23:35:59 | dragorn | I should remember this but I don't -- are there any defines GCC sets for the platform it's compiling to? |
| 23:48:57 | BZFlag | ibot change 1000 USD to CAD |
| 23:49:00 | | BZFlag: 1,000.00 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 1,590.71 (Dollar (CAD)) |
| 23:49:26 | BZFlag | Neo|Work: there. fixed it for ya. |
| 23:50:05 | BZFlag | ibot change 99 usd to cad |
| 23:50:07 | | BZFlag: 99.00 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 157.480 (Dollar (CAD)) |
| 23:51:25 | Neo|Work | BZFlag: I reloaded Sugar and she does a correct job now too. probably hand't reloaded the latest data (yet) |
| 23:51:48 | | BZFlag: excuse me? |
| 23:51:48 | BZFlag | ibot does a web lookup every time. |
| 23:53:19 | BZFlag | ibot: currency for korea |
| 23:53:21 | | BZFlag: South Korea uses Won (KRW), North Korea uses Won (KPW) |
| 23:53:36 | BZFlag | ibot change 99 usd to krw |
| 23:53:39 | | BZFlag: 99.00 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 129,789.02 (Won (KRW)) |
| 23:54:22 | BZFlag | Sugar: what is 99 usd in krw? |
| 23:54:24 | Sugar | 99 US$ is 130729.5 KRW |
| 23:56:39 | BigBoss | you are still talking about suger? |
| 23:56:52 | kend2-afk | http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?futufu <-- sign! |
| 23:57:02 | brett | Gimmie some sugar baby. |
| 23:58:00 | brett | kergoth: I think I'm going to just try to add /proc/wireless support into the wlan-ng that sharp released. |
| 23:58:16 | brett | No ioctl support for the wireless extensions though... |
| 23:58:20 | kergoth | brett: eh thatd suck |
| 23:58:21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:58:25 | brett | You think? |
| 23:58:48 | brett | 0.1.13-prewhatever is being annoying. |
| 23:58:57 | kergoth | brett: i think wireless extensions would be very useful. hmm. whats the alternative? how much work is involved to get the latest to build? |
| 23:59:15 | kend2-afk | whimpers about possibility of futurama being cancelled :( |
| 23:59:18 | kergoth | finally.. make openzaurus; actually builds a bootable kernel and jffs2 initrd. took long enough |
| 23:59:19 | brett | kergoth: It builds fine. And it uses a .mk file already, so it's easy to integrate with your build system... but |
| 23:59:25 | kergoth | kend2-afk: what?! arghhh |
| 23:59:29 | file | eh? |
| 23:59:29 | kergoth | kend2-afk: i didnt hear that |
| 23:59:36 | kergoth | brett: but? hehe |
| 23:59:47 | brett | kergoth: It's erroring out when you try to bring it up in infrastructure mode. |
| 23:59:58 | kergoth | hm |