| 00:02:07 | brett | god dammit |
| 00:05:46 | brett | Yeah this is just freaking lovely. |
| 00:07:41 | tux_mike | this network is worse than efnet |
| 00:10:42 | JasonNJ | maybe we should move this to undernet |
| 00:10:44 | JasonNJ | or dalnet |
| 00:10:57 | MSpin | hehe, efnet has been decently stable for a bit too |
| 00:12:07 | brett | hehe, dalnet |
| 00:12:35 | brett | Hey JasonNJ! Come see me nude at my ALL FREE XXX WEBSITE. http://www.blah.com |
| 00:12:39 | brett | That's dalnet. |
| 00:32:15 | whardier | hi |
| 00:32:31 | brett | hi |
| 00:32:41 | whardier | checks out bretts all nude website |
| 00:32:55 | whardier | the unbaised guide to mobile phones |
| 00:33:15 | brett | Hey whardier! Me and my girlfriends are SO LONELY! Come check us out at http://www.blah.com! |
| 00:33:25 | whardier | hahaha |
| 00:33:32 | whardier | Iwill not have sex with you |
| 00:33:43 | whardier | nor have a towel fight |
| 00:33:51 | brett | dang. |
| 00:34:20 | whardier | I know people that wil |
| 00:34:29 | brett | It just wouldn't be the same. |
| 00:34:43 | whardier | paper bags make everything happy |
| 00:34:46 | brett | heh |
| 00:35:11 | brett | whardier: I put up a picture of me and my girlfriend the other day. It's an awesome shot. |
| 00:35:19 | whardier | lemme see! |
| 00:35:25 | whardier | I wanna see brett girl |
| 00:35:39 | whardier | it better not be porn |
| 00:35:48 | brett | http://www.elisp.com/~brett/mepic01.jpg |
| 00:35:51 | brett | brett girl? |
| 00:36:13 | brett | I'm wasted. |
| 00:36:17 | brett | In that picture that is. |
| 00:36:49 | whardier | haha |
| 00:36:51 | whardier | your damn sexy |
| 00:36:55 | whardier | I would do you |
| 00:37:11 | brett | hehe, yeah, like the way my goatee is all crooked and how I can't keep my eyes open? |
| 00:37:19 | whardier | why are you framing your crotch? |
| 00:37:25 | brett | I don't know. |
| 00:37:39 | whardier | heh |
| 00:37:45 | whardier | finds a pic |
| 00:37:46 | brett | I barely even remember having that picture taken. It was at a party a few weeks back. |
| 00:37:55 | whardier | you showed me yours.. suppose I should show you mine :) |
| 00:38:24 | brett | Hmm. When you put it that way, I don't know. |
| 00:40:58 | whardier | http://vash.umgllc.com/shane.jpg |
| 00:40:59 | whardier | there |
| 00:41:08 | whardier | I look like I should be wasted |
| 00:41:29 | brett | Dude, you're a g. |
| 00:42:03 | brett | I'd still do you though. |
| 00:42:27 | whardier | I just look like a g |
| 00:42:33 | whardier | right then |
| 00:42:45 | whardier | my big old pants were the only thing keeping me warm |
| 00:42:46 | whardier | hahaha |
| 00:42:59 | brett | /topic #Zaurus, Here to help you hook up and have gay sex with other men. |
| 00:43:06 | whardier | hahaha |
| 00:43:17 | BigBoss | you people are seriously messed up |
| 00:43:18 | BigBoss | :) |
| 00:43:22 | brett | heh |
| 00:44:13 | whardier | hehehe |
| 00:44:30 | brett | whardier, you going to be around for a bit? |
| 00:44:40 | whardier | http://vash.umgllc.com/stpaul.jpg <- here is the island I am on |
| 00:44:43 | whardier | yeah I should be around |
| 00:45:01 | whardier | you wanna have gay cyber sex? |
| 00:45:08 | whardier | I am sorta in the middle of class |
| 00:45:09 | brett | ok. I'll send you some tar.gz's of stuff to test. Gonna be a bit though, I'm going to make sure it works ok on mine first. |
| 00:45:10 | whardier | haha |
| 00:45:16 | brett | haha |
| 00:45:17 | whardier | neat.. |
| 00:45:43 | brett | What an odd place to be. |
| 00:46:10 | whardier | tell me about it |
| 00:46:23 | whardier | the cost guard is on the other side of the island.. way off that picture |
| 00:46:37 | whardier | I am gonna go jump off that cliff |
| 00:46:38 | brett | How did you get to the island? Do they have an airport? Or boat? |
| 00:46:44 | whardier | airport |
| 00:46:48 | brett | Handy |
| 00:46:49 | whardier | its all on the other map.. not this one |
| 00:49:35 | brett | Anyone remember offhand the option to mount to keep the fs from being cached? was it sync? |
| 00:49:47 | whardier | here is what it looks like right now |
| 00:49:49 | whardier | http://vash.umgllc.com/stpaul-snow.jpg |
| 00:50:10 | whardier | snickers |
| 00:50:14 | brett | That's so dumb. |
| 00:50:17 | BZFlag | yeah, sync, but iirc the z forces sync on all filesystems |
| 00:50:18 | whardier | hahaha |
| 00:50:31 | brett | BZFlag: I know, I'm mounting my card in linux to copy things |
| 00:50:38 | BZFlag | ah, ok |
| 00:50:40 | whardier | well it looks like that |
| 00:50:54 | whardier | if you could actually see the island from that elevation .. that would be a trick |
| 00:51:06 | whardier | we have .3 mile vis right now |
| 00:51:22 | brett | I've never seen snow before. |
| 00:51:26 | whardier | its sucky |
| 00:51:30 | whardier | What? |
| 00:51:56 | brett | Just thought I'd confuse you. |
| 00:54:00 | brett | flashing... hope this stuff works. |
| 00:54:27 | brett | Oh jeez. I forgot I have a romimage on the card too. |
| 00:54:59 | BZFlag | brett: flashing what? |
| 00:55:10 | BZFlag | hacks the buildroot again... |
| 00:55:15 | brett | A new initrd with wireless extension support. |
| 00:55:47 | brett | Although, I'm actually reflashing the oz rom again because I forgot to take it off of the card. :) |
| 00:56:01 | brett | er, flashing |
| 00:59:03 | BZFlag | headed home |
| 01:03:21 | whardier | lalala |
| 01:03:40 | brett | flashing again, I forgot to retar var and home. |
| 01:03:43 | brett | I'm smart |
| 01:03:46 | whardier | har har |
| 01:03:52 | whardier | I like the dark theme |
| 01:04:28 | whardier | I need to go more indepth with the qpe hacks and get all the widgets compatible with a more advanced theming. |
| 01:04:59 | brett | qpe is a moving target right now... |
| 01:05:09 | whardier | shoots |
| 01:05:11 | whardier | misses |
| 01:05:12 | brett | I just can't wait until tt merges their changes in with the stuff at sf. |
| 01:05:12 | whardier | cries |
| 01:05:15 | whardier | hangs a towel up |
| 01:05:18 | brett | heh |
| 01:05:24 | whardier | heh |
| 01:05:42 | brett | I really like the way those taskbar icons are handled now. Only there if the app is running |
| 01:10:18 | brett | Ok whardier. It looks like the programs at least run. How do you want me to get you the stuff? |
| 01:13:17 | brett | whardier: I think I'm just going to send you my initrd.bin It's only 4 megs. |
| 01:14:59 | brett | Hey whardier, come back. |
| 01:16:48 | whardier | I are here |
| 01:16:55 | brett | cool. I'll dcc you the initrd |
| 01:17:02 | brett | Can you flash it from where you're at? |
| 01:17:05 | whardier | no dcc |
| 01:17:06 | whardier | dcc bad |
| 01:17:11 | whardier | I can flash a lot of things |
| 01:17:16 | whardier | I would rather not flash |
| 01:17:21 | whardier | I would rather test out the stuff manually |
| 01:17:37 | whardier | can you tar up just the chages you made |
| 01:17:51 | brett | I needed to replace a lot of files in the read-only dirs. |
| 01:17:57 | whardier | thats ok |
| 01:18:01 | brett | I guess you could just put em in /usr/local |
| 01:18:07 | whardier | no |
| 01:18:24 | whardier | most everything is a link to read only |
| 01:18:25 | brett | or not |
| 01:18:32 | whardier | or should be |
| 01:18:38 | whardier | that way you can delete the link |
| 01:18:44 | whardier | and store something not ro |
| 01:18:53 | brett | There's a lot of stuff though. |
| 01:18:59 | whardier | ok |
| 01:19:06 | whardier | gimme the rom and I will peekify at it |
| 01:19:21 | brett | no dcc? |
| 01:19:21 | whardier | hold on a few minutes and I will have an upload account for you |
| 01:19:25 | brett | k |
| 01:20:19 | brett | I'd really suggest you just flash the initrd to test it. You can always just reflash your old one. |
| 01:20:45 | whardier | brett.. I have data that I do not wanna give up ATM |
| 01:25:08 | brett | whardier, can't login |
| 01:32:24 | whardier | uar! |
| 01:35:01 | Jag | Hey JasonNJ |
| 01:35:30 | Jag | Treke tells me your looking for game developers for the Zaurus and that I should pass the recommendations I was trying to give to Loki on to you |
| 01:35:48 | Jag | Popcap games, Bejeweled |
| 01:41:38 | whardier | hah |
| 01:41:56 | whardier | JasonNJ is not here right now.. but if you would like to leave a message.. kindly wait for the beep |
| 01:41:57 | whardier | |
| 01:42:23 | brett | I'm gonna be a sec whardier, I'm trying to talk my girlfriend through a data restore. |
| 01:42:26 | brett | She screwed up at work |
| 01:42:30 | whardier | haha |
| 01:42:32 | Neo|Work | whardier: hehe |
| 01:42:36 | whardier | you are having phone sex with her |
| 01:42:56 | whardier | while she is at work.. you know you are |
| 01:43:06 | whardier | data restore is just asick cover |
| 01:43:19 | Neo|Work | anyone know of any good QT/QPE books? |
| 01:43:20 | whardier | you are fondling her bits and restoring some bytes |
| 01:43:39 | brett | brb. need to reboot |
| 01:43:43 | whardier | Neo|Work prolly whatever is on the qt web page |
| 01:44:10 | Neo|Work | whardier: I generally tend to like books better. Easier to read in the bathroom. *grin* |
| 01:44:33 | whardier | get a zaurus |
| 01:44:37 | whardier | wget the docs |
| 01:44:39 | whardier | poop |
| 01:44:48 | whardier | read |
| 01:44:51 | whardier | poop more |
| 01:44:54 | whardier | thats how I usually do it |
| 01:45:09 | Neo|Work | heh. Don't have a zaurus, can't afford one right now. :P |
| 01:46:05 | whardier | pen and paper |
| 01:46:06 | whardier | heh |
| 01:46:14 | whardier | this rules |
| 01:46:18 | whardier | we got coffe mugs today |
| 01:46:28 | whardier | ToyKeeper was all.. "we need mugs |
| 01:46:39 | whardier | then we both got mugs for the company we are contracting for |
| 01:46:40 | whardier | heh |
| 01:46:42 | whardier | woot |
| 01:46:44 | whardier | more cocoa! |
| 02:06:21 | ljp | akk, frickin' monitor |
| 02:22:33 | ljp | heh, I tell ya.. I've fixed more bugs since Jan.14th than anything! Sure glad they extended that deadline.. |
| 02:24:09 | altered | ljp: I've probably already asked, but what are you working on again? |
| 02:24:21 | altered | (I know I've introduced more bugs than I've fixed :) |
| 02:27:51 | ljp | http://sourceforge.net/projects/gutenbrowser |
| 02:28:29 | ljp | thing is, the executable size has enlarged about 100 kb!!! |
| 02:29:01 | ljp | dang it.. I'm going to have to reboot.. brb |
| 02:31:30 | MSpin | has anyone played with any 'USB enabled' CF cards? |
| 02:39:06 | BigBoss | hey max |
| 02:40:15 | msmax | bb: hey |
| 03:12:24 | brett | whardier, you around? |
| 03:24:35 | Hellaenergy | Has any one heard of the company SimpleTech? |
| 03:24:38 | whardier | hi |
| 03:24:42 | whardier | I have my sunglasses on |
| 03:26:42 | Hellaenergy | What rom can play mp3's? |
| 03:27:01 | Error403 | they all can |
| 03:27:13 | Hellaenergy | huh |
| 03:27:16 | brett | whardier, I uploaded the initrd |
| 03:27:37 | Hellaenergy | what rom can you see gif's with? :) |
| 03:27:48 | Hellaenergy | Not OZ 2.5-2 |
| 03:27:57 | Error403 | Hellaenergy: Not sure if they compiled Qt with gif support |
| 03:28:03 | Error403 | bitch at kergot for that ;) |
| 03:28:11 | Hellaenergy | must not have |
| 03:28:50 | Hellaenergy | Does anybody have a small mp3 I can have? |
| 03:29:55 | whardier | brett.. ok.. |
| 03:32:57 | brett | Hellaenergy: I'll send you the new Brittany Spears single. |
| 03:34:26 | whardier | brittany issingle? |
| 03:34:46 | Hellaenergy | no thanks |
| 03:34:49 | brett | whardier: How are you planning on getting the stuff off of it? It's going to be a pain to copy it all. |
| 03:35:03 | brett | Hellaenergy: Why not? Don't you appreciate great music? |
| 03:35:07 | Hellaenergy | Send me some Stevie Wonder or somehthing |
| 03:35:21 | brett | ok |
| 03:35:46 | Hellaenergy | Living Legends - California Underground Hip Hop |
| 03:37:01 | Hellaenergy | Send me a mp3 of Brittany geeting a gag in her mouth |
| 03:38:00 | Hellaenergy | The ARM Cross-compiler Toolchain on the trolltech site cool? |
| 03:38:14 | Hellaenergy | I heard earlier that lineo had one too? |
| 03:40:11 | Hellaenergy | Anyone? |
| 03:46:03 | ljp | hellaenergy: Yes Lineo has am arm tool chain |
| 03:56:05 | JasonNJ | I cant freakin beleieve the best palm can do is a retooled version of the Palm VII in a metal case. |
| 03:57:16 | treke|work | JasonNJ : they really havent done anything different since the original palm |
| 03:57:25 | treke|work | with the possible exception of the color screen |
| 03:57:53 | MSpin | they have some cool Bluetooth demos |
| 04:05:17 | whardier | hahaha |
| 04:05:17 | whardier | oh |
| 04:05:18 | whardier | boy |
| 04:07:16 | sjohnson | JasonNJ: The next palm will propably be the last Dragonball model PALM develops. |
| 04:07:33 | sjohnson | Although I want one desparately. :) |
| 04:08:10 | Hellaenergy | how does tmake work? |
| 04:08:24 | sjohnson | I think the next pams will be ARM based and running BeOS, er PalmOS 5.0 |
| 04:08:29 | Hellaenergy | I am trying to tmake the example and it cant find tmake |
| 04:08:56 | whardier | http://vash.umgllc.com/hardwire-2.png |
| 04:08:59 | whardier | bwa ha ha |
| 04:09:30 | Hellaenergy | I got the $TMAKEPATH too |
| 04:10:10 | sjohnson | whardier: Whodat? |
| 04:10:16 | whardier | me |
| 04:11:47 | sjohnson | Sigh. Another youn'un. I'm starting to feel like an old fart. |
| 04:11:59 | whardier | haha |
| 04:14:35 | Error403 | whardier looks like one of those punks that you want to beat up but know they have a knife :P |
| 04:14:45 | whardier | hahaha |
| 04:14:50 | whardier | I have more |
| 04:15:26 | whardier | http://vash.umgllc.com/hardwire-homie.jpg |
| 04:15:29 | whardier | BWA HAHA |
| 04:16:35 | Error403 | ok, that's wrong |
| 04:16:36 | Error403 | :P |
| 04:19:02 | whardier | haha |
| 04:19:57 | whardier | ain't I sexy |
| 04:22:46 | Hellaenergy | That is PHAT whardier |
| 04:23:12 | Hellaenergy | Apache 1.3.23 was just released.......... |
| 04:23:39 | BigBoss | i'm sporting a chubby looking at those photos of whardier |
| 04:33:08 | whardier | BigBoss.. hahaha |
| 04:33:56 | brett | Jesus whardier, you're a thug. |
| 04:35:29 | whardier | hahaha |
| 04:38:37 | brett | I'm glad I didn't meet you at the airport, you would've kicked my ass. |
| 04:40:04 | sjohnson | is away: I've lost my mind, and I've gone to look for it... |
| 04:40:10 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 04:44:57 | Hellaenergy | how is tmake a command. Im sorry if this seems stupid. |
| 04:46:16 | ljp | Hellaenergy: tmake -o Makefile yourApp.pro |
| 04:46:31 | Hellaenergy | I know but where is the binary for tmake? |
| 04:46:52 | Hellaenergy | tmake.conf is the only thing i see |
| 04:49:41 | Hellaenergy | ljp: is tmake a binary????? |
| 04:49:45 | ljp | Hell: /opt/Qtopia/tmake/bin |
| 04:50:18 | Hellaenergy | Thank you |
| 04:50:22 | ljp | :D |
| 04:50:31 | ljp | new to QT, eh? |
| 04:50:38 | Hellaenergy | Oh yeah |
| 04:53:14 | Hellaenergy | What env variables do I need ot set for tmake? |
| 04:54:13 | ljp | depends on what platform you are compiling/linking for |
| 04:54:30 | Hellaenergy | Zaurus of course |
| 04:55:46 | Hellaenergy | I guess i'll just point my path to tmake.conf |
| 04:56:26 | ljp | export $TMAKEPATH=/opt/Qtopia/tmake/lib/qws/linux-sharp-g++ |
| 04:56:48 | Hellaenergy | Ya know I already have that set |
| 04:56:56 | Hellaenergy | I still can't find it |
| 04:57:01 | ljp | thats all you need then |
| 04:57:04 | Hellaenergy | must be a syntex error |
| 04:57:13 | Hellaenergy | on my part I'll check |
| 04:58:44 | Hellaenergy | I put generic instead of sharp ahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 05:02:12 | Hellaenergy | and i forgot to export it |
| 05:02:27 | Hellaenergy | its been a long day |
| 05:04:49 | brett | Kind of funny to misspell syntax error. :) |
| 05:05:24 | whardier | hehe |
| 05:05:27 | whardier | pulls a gat |
| 05:06:45 | brett | hey whardier, have you tested out any of the new utils? |
| 05:07:19 | Hellaenergy | Gimme a break or tu |
| 05:07:36 | brett | The two big ones probably are the prism driver and iwconfig |
| 05:08:04 | brett | Relax Hellaenergy, I'm just joking. :) |
| 05:08:18 | Hellaenergy | ;) |
| 05:09:01 | Hellaenergy | Cool, just don't sick whardier on me :{ |
| 05:09:20 | whardier | brett.. to busy cappin peoples asses ATM |
| 05:09:34 | whardier | when I get back to the condo I will :) |
| 05:09:46 | whardier | I am still teaching people some graphics stuff |
| 05:10:22 | brett | Good deal. |
| 05:12:45 | whardier | busts a cap |
| 05:22:00 | Hellaenergy | I got an error makeing main.o in the example |
| 05:22:08 | Hellaenergy | whaaaaat?? |
| 05:22:26 | Hellaenergy | /opt/Qtopia/include/qcstring.h: In function `int cstrncmp(const char *, const char *, unsigned int)': |
| 05:22:26 | Hellaenergy | /opt/Qtopia/include/qcstring.h:107: implicit declaration of function `int strncmp(...)' |
| 05:22:26 | Hellaenergy | make: *** [main.o] Error 1 |
| 05:24:57 | brett | You're forgetting to include something |
| 05:25:10 | brett | string.h |
| 05:25:26 | brett | Throw a #include <string.h> on top somewhere. |
| 05:25:33 | Hellaenergy | k |
| 05:26:59 | Hellaenergy | I think it's example.h |
| 05:27:27 | brett | strncmp is declared in string.h |
| 05:27:45 | Hellaenergy | ok |
| 05:29:01 | Hellaenergy | What is weird is this is the example in the qtopia sdk |
| 05:33:15 | BZFlag | anyoe bricked a Z yet? |
| 05:33:46 | ljp | bricked a Z ???? |
| 05:34:03 | ljp | you mean slammed a brick on it? |
| 05:34:08 | BZFlag | flashed a bad image so that it could not be reflashed. |
| 05:34:16 | treke|work | BZFlag : can that be done? |
| 05:34:18 | Hellaenergy | I almost did |
| 05:34:19 | ljp | ya Jason did |
| 05:34:20 | BZFlag | yes. |
| 05:34:47 | BZFlag | what happens then? JasonNJ? sharp reflash it for ya? |
| 05:34:49 | Hellaenergy | Never mind that was the CF card |
| 05:34:55 | BZFlag | oh. |
| 05:35:04 | ljp | or maybe it was becuase of no USB in a rom or something |
| 05:35:08 | whardier | heh |
| 05:35:16 | whardier | I have dropped my Z quite a few times |
| 05:35:25 | whardier | had it explodein to little peices |
| 05:35:28 | whardier | it still fucking works |
| 05:35:35 | BZFlag | just dd a few 0's to the start of your romimage, and you will render your machine unbootable. |
| 05:36:31 | BZFlag | hmm... it might not flash that though, as there might be a checksum someplace. |
| 05:36:52 | BZFlag | anyone got a Z and a voltmeter handy? |
| 05:37:08 | BZFlag | I want to know what the pins to the right of the battery are. ;-) |
| 05:39:46 | BZFlag | I suspect that there are gnd, 3.3v, and jtag pins but have no idea. |
| 05:49:30 | whardier | this sounds heh |
| 05:49:33 | whardier | er |
| 05:49:34 | whardier | oops |
| 05:49:36 | whardier | wrong channel |
| 05:49:38 | whardier | and wrong worsds |
| 05:49:40 | whardier | lkajd |
| 07:19:39 | extremis | no new rom yet? |
| 12:36:25 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzZzzzz |
| 13:44:10 | peanutz | damn.. |
| 13:44:22 | peanutz | how do you kick someone who has been idle for 37 hours |
| 13:45:28 | Trisk[awaay] | from a channel where you have ops? |
| 13:45:37 | peanutz | no.. i know how to do that.. |
| 13:45:51 | peanutz | so.. wheres the new rom? |
| 13:45:56 | peanutz | anxiously awaits it! |
| 13:46:20 | ljp | I think its still at Sharp |
| 13:46:39 | peanutz | today is the big day! |
| 13:57:43 | ljp | I'll believe when I see it |
| 13:58:41 | peanutz | ljp: jason let it slip yesterday |
| 13:59:58 | ljp | hmmm I missed that.. see what happens when I have to reboot? |
| 14:00:27 | peanutz | is keeping his fingers crossed, maybe hancom will be in it! |
| 14:01:09 | ljp | it was in the test rom |
| 14:01:18 | peanutz | smiles bigger! |
| 14:01:36 | brett | I'm pretty sure hancom will be in it. |
| 14:01:51 | peanutz | lets hope.. |
| 14:01:56 | brett | Also, those taskbar icons only show up when a program is running. It's nice. |
| 14:02:06 | brett | peanutz: If it isn't then it means they took it out. |
| 14:02:29 | peanutz | i will wait patiently and see :) |
| 14:02:29 | brett | I'm pretty sure sharp licensed their pda stuff |
| 14:03:02 | ljp | I wonder if the terminal will be an addon like 1-08? |
| 14:03:04 | peanutz | the only think i'm bummed about is i lent my only cf card to my dad |
| 14:03:18 | brett | ljp: Probably. |
| 14:03:21 | peanutz | looks like i'll be upgrading from microdrive again |
| 14:03:30 | peanutz | its so damn slow! it takes over 20 minutes! |
| 14:03:41 | ljp | ouch |
| 14:03:48 | peanutz | at least it works.. |
| 14:04:12 | brett | Wow. I thought the microdrive would be faster. |
| 14:05:18 | brett | That sucks |
| 14:07:11 | peanutz | yes it does |
| 14:07:23 | ljp | I wonder which changes of qpe cvs will make it into the rom? |
| 14:07:26 | peanutz | looks like sharp has already started to release source today |
| 14:07:35 | peanutz | the links are broken, but they're there |
| 14:07:46 | brett | peanutz: The source to what? |
| 14:07:53 | peanutz | wireless stuff |
| 14:08:11 | brett | Oh cool. A new symbol driver? |
| 14:08:31 | peanutz | wait.. it seems out of date.. |
| 14:08:40 | peanutz | source code for wireless lan drive |
| 14:08:59 | brett | This is on the dev site? |
| 14:09:07 | peanutz | just the stuff for wlan-ng |
| 14:09:28 | brett | aww. |
| 14:09:48 | brett | The newest stock wlan-ng compiles for arm. |
| 14:09:55 | peanutz | yup.. |
| 14:10:25 | ljp | Hey! My filebrowser widget is mentioned on the sharp dev site! heh |
| 14:10:37 | brett | You're famous! :) |
| 14:11:18 | peanutz | hehehe |
| 14:11:20 | peanutz | yes he is! |
| 14:11:22 | brett | peanutz: Where are you seeing this new download link? |
| 14:11:22 | ljp | oh. I'm famous for more things than that |
| 14:11:38 | peanutz | http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/source/command_source.asp#wlan-ng |
| 14:11:48 | brett | Well, there was that unfortunate incident with the Mexican border guards, but I won't bring that up now. |
| 14:12:00 | peanutz | linked from http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/index.asp |
| 14:12:00 | brett | That made you pretty famous too. |
| 14:12:19 | ljp | hey look! http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/download/binary/SL5UpdateV104.zip |
| 14:12:27 | brett | oh heh. I didn't even check thr front page |
| 14:12:27 | ljp | NOT! |
| 14:12:29 | bipolar | is back (gone 16:24:50) |
| 14:12:37 | peanutz | hehehehe |
| 14:12:49 | peanutz | its V105 ljp.. come on |
| 14:12:52 | peanutz | you know that |
| 14:12:58 | ljp | http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/download/binary/SL5UpdateV105.zip |
| 14:12:58 | bipolar | ljp: fileprowser widget? |
| 14:13:08 | brett | Why in the hell did they release the source to wlan-ng? |
| 14:13:19 | peanutz | who knows.. |
| 14:13:20 | ljp | ya.. It a sim[ple file dialog widget |
| 14:13:23 | brett | It compiles for arm right out of the box. |
| 14:13:33 | bipolar | ljp: Could you show me a screenshot? |
| 14:13:50 | ljp | sure hang on.. its text based |
| 14:14:52 | peanutz | LJPS WORLD FAMOUS WIDGET |
| 14:15:00 | peanutz | VERSION 1.0891234 |
| 14:15:01 | bipolar | hehe |
| 14:15:04 | peanutz | YOU HAVE TOO MANY FILES |
| 14:15:06 | peanutz | DELETE SOME |
| 14:15:09 | peanutz | there you go.. |
| 14:15:15 | peanutz | i cut and pasted directly from my system :) |
| 14:15:27 | bipolar | peanutz: lol |
| 14:15:30 | brett | heh |
| 14:15:38 | peanutz | hehe |
| 14:15:43 | peanutz | if nothing else, lets laugh |
| 14:15:48 | peanutz | but not at ljp :) |
| 14:17:48 | peanutz | come on ljp.. we're waiting :) |
| 14:18:01 | ljp | bipolar: http://llornkcor.com/software/screenshots/fileBrowserWidget.png |
| 14:18:21 | peanutz | hey... nice.. |
| 14:18:45 | ljp | nothing special.. and there's one line you'll most likely want to edit |
| 14:18:48 | peanutz | what does it look like when you find the file |
| 14:19:02 | ljp | I should update it, though |
| 14:19:12 | ljp | it just goes away |
| 14:19:36 | ljp | puts the filename(s) into a variable |
| 14:19:50 | peanutz | ahhh.. |
| 14:20:08 | ljp | it's widget |
| 14:22:02 | ljp | I wrote it becuase there's no filedialog in qtopia |
| 14:22:09 | bipolar | ljp: cool |
| 14:22:18 | ljp | its buggy |
| 14:22:26 | brett | They want you to use thier document-centric way of doing it |
| 14:22:29 | bipolar | ljp: Perhaps we'll put that in opie when it's finished. |
| 14:22:53 | bipolar | ljp: It might come in handy one day. |
| 14:22:54 | brett | bipolar: Why not just use the standard qte one? |
| 14:23:01 | ljp | sure.. but its not its own exec |
| 14:23:08 | bipolar | ljp: I know |
| 14:23:12 | brett | So compile it into the library |
| 14:23:14 | bipolar | brett: options are good. |
| 14:23:18 | ljp | k.. just checkin' :) |
| 14:23:44 | brett | I'm just saying... It's a widget, no sense in not just compiling in the standard one. More efficient that way. |
| 14:23:57 | ljp | you'll need to take out my customizations... |
| 14:24:38 | bipolar | brett: As far as I know, there is no standard widget for browsing the filesystem from inside an app. |
| 14:25:08 | bipolar | ljp: that would really come in handy in the media player. |
| 14:25:20 | brett | It's called QTFileDialog and it's standard in qte. They just left it out on purpose to support the qpe way of doing things |
| 14:25:31 | brett | Sharp left it out I should say. |
| 14:25:47 | brett | or qfiledialog. something along those lines. |
| 14:25:53 | bipolar | brett: I see. |
| 14:26:28 | bipolar | ljp: I see the title bar for "gutenbrowser embedded" in that shot. Where can I get that? |
| 14:27:02 | ljp | http://sourceforge.net/projects/gutenbrowser |
| 14:27:17 | ljp | I'm about to do another update, though. |
| 14:27:31 | ljp | I hate when somehow changes get reverted back |
| 14:27:54 | bipolar | ljp: Thats a cool app. |
| 14:28:26 | bipolar | ljp: is the source in the main tgz? |
| 14:28:54 | ljp | cvs |
| 14:29:07 | ishmal | i should probably read up on how to use the framebuffer directly |
| 14:29:15 | bipolar | ljp: ahhh.. the emb module? |
| 14:29:20 | ljp | yep! |
| 14:29:38 | bipolar | ljp: cool beans |
| 14:30:07 | ljp | but I haven't added a few icons to it yet. |
| 14:30:16 | bipolar | ljp: any other cool QPE apps your're hiding? :) |
| 14:30:52 | peanutz | gutenbrowser? |
| 14:31:41 | peanutz | ahh.. sweet |
| 14:31:55 | ljp | :D yep |
| 14:32:01 | ljp | it's not ready though |
| 14:32:19 | ljp | the frickin vu meters are not working correctly |
| 14:33:05 | ljp | bipolar: I ported the tictacto game from the qt examples! |
| 14:33:29 | bipolar | ljp: cool. Be sure to pony it up for Opie. |
| 14:33:32 | bipolar | :) |
| 14:33:59 | ljp | the exe is at ZZ |
| 14:34:49 | bipolar | ljp: if you have the code, we'll put it in Opie's CVS |
| 14:35:19 | ljp | K... |
| 14:40:08 | ljp | bipolar: http://llornkcor.com/software/tictac_src.tar.gz |
| 14:40:43 | bipolar | ljp: cool. Thanks |
| 14:45:27 | ljp | I only had to change two lines to get it to compile |
| 14:46:29 | bipolar | ljp: hehe |
| 14:47:23 | ljp | I'd like to get that chess game compiled... |
| 14:47:41 | bipolar | ljp: that would be nice. |
| 14:47:57 | bipolar | ljp: if you want to work on things, I could give you CVS write access to opie. |
| 14:48:01 | kergoth`work | mornin |
| 14:48:26 | bipolar | kergoth`work: hello! I'm adding tic-tac-toe to opie's cvs |
| 14:48:32 | ljp | bipolar: sure! |
| 14:48:35 | brett | yo kergoth |
| 14:48:46 | kergoth | hey brett |
| 14:48:48 | kergoth | bipolar: i see that |
| 14:49:05 | bipolar | ljp: /msg me your username and paswd |
| 14:49:09 | ljp | opie has cvs up? |
| 14:49:15 | bipolar | ljp: yes |
| 14:49:30 | kergoth | bipolar: we need to establish guidelines for exactly what we want in opie. we obviously cant include every application, so we need featureset guidelines, imho |
| 14:50:16 | bipolar | kergoth: lets move over to #opie and talk about it. |
| 14:51:26 | ishmal | hmm im about 50% done with my stuff, maybe another week ... got the XML parser working fine in C and java |
| 14:52:40 | ishmal | anyone here tried GLUE? the little SOAP lib for java... would be cool to make some little apps to provide front-ends to these web services ---> http://www.xmethods.com |
| 14:52:58 | brett | rebooting... |
| 15:08:31 | peanutz | yawns.. |
| 15:08:43 | peanutz | was the plan to release new sync software as well? |
| 15:11:36 | ljp | I think qtopiadesktop should work with new rom |
| 15:12:19 | peanutz | but it would be nice to see a better qtopia desktop |
| 15:12:34 | peanutz | someone mentioned on the forum that if you change (heck, set for that matter) a password on the Z |
| 15:12:36 | peanutz | you can't sync |
| 15:12:39 | peanutz | valid point. |
| 15:19:02 | peanutz | hey mandrake |
| 15:19:06 | peanutz | can i ask you a question |
| 15:19:32 | peanutz | since you seem to be a bmw fan, what do you think of their suv? (I notice you have an xterra) |
| 15:19:57 | peanutz | my wife and i have a pathfinder, but are thinking of getting a new suv (either a pathfinder or something like the acura or bmw) |
| 15:20:05 | mandrake | I bought the xterra because the dealership pissed me off that they treated my wife like ass |
| 15:20:15 | mandrake | so I just went out and bought an xterra instead |
| 15:20:17 | peanutz | over buying the bmw? |
| 15:20:19 | mandrake | I think it's not so bad |
| 15:20:32 | peanutz | hrmm.. |
| 15:20:57 | peanutz | so it wasn't because of the car, it was because of the salespeople |
| 15:21:09 | mandrake | my wife went to testdrive a bunch of cars at the bmw dealership, and she's not very good at dealing with salesmen, so they didn't let her testdrive the cars she wanted to testdrive, and since it was the sales manager that was helping her, I went down there (in my 850) and explained why I wasn't buying the car from them |
| 15:21:28 | peanutz | hehehe |
| 15:21:50 | mandrake | we're in the process of ordering an M3 from them and we explained to them the appropriate amount of making up they had to do in order for us to actually buy it at this point. |
| 15:22:05 | peanutz | are you replacing one of your existing cars? |
| 15:22:09 | peanutz | or just adding another tool |
| 15:22:18 | mandrake | haven't decided yet |
| 15:22:27 | mandrake | really I need more space to park cars |
| 15:22:43 | mandrake | I don't have enough spaces for cars at my house |
| 15:23:12 | mandrake | incidentally, moving to chubb (high end insurance) from progressive cut my bills in half |
| 15:23:21 | mandrake | I pay half as much for car insurance for double the coverage |
| 15:23:23 | mandrake | amazing |
| 15:23:43 | mandrake | of course, they also want to do all the rest of my insurance, which is probably why they gave me that rate |
| 15:25:19 | mandrake | having the xterra is nice though, because it can take a fair amount of abuse without me caring too much |
| 15:25:23 | mandrake | I kinda like that |
| 15:34:56 | peanutz | yeah, the pathfinder has been the same.. |
| 15:35:02 | peanutz | we will probably just end up getting another one |
| 15:35:16 | peanutz | takes the train.. we have two cars |
| 15:35:27 | peanutz | a saab 93 turbo convertible and the pathfinder |
| 15:35:39 | peanutz | i wouldn't pay the $$$ for an 8 series bmw.. |
| 15:35:43 | peanutz | :) |
| 15:36:12 | peanutz | thanks for the tip on insurance (we pay 140 a month for 100/300/50 on both cars) |
| 15:36:21 | peanutz | i doubt we could get lower, but maybe :) |
| 15:37:01 | mandrake | I pay 3200 a year for all 3 of mine |
| 15:37:26 | peanutz | so a little more.. but your 8 series is worth a little more :) |
| 15:37:32 | mandrake | for about 2x as much coverage |
| 15:37:42 | peanutz | you have 2x the coverage of 100/300 ? |
| 15:37:49 | mandrake | 200/500 |
| 15:38:11 | peanutz | when i went from 50/150 to 100/300, my bill went up 70 dollars a year |
| 15:38:40 | peanutz | there is limits where i live (delaware) that causes rates to be lower once you get over the hump |
| 15:38:57 | peanutz | the 8 series are no longer made are they? |
| 15:38:59 | mandrake | if I were to ever get in an accident in the 850, the potential for someone to start making stuff up wrong is high |
| 15:39:08 | mandrake | there are only 85 of my car in the US |
| 15:39:30 | mandrake | they do make the 8, but now only a roadster version (Z8) |
| 15:39:50 | mandrake | the v12 cars just weren't popular in the US until after they were discontinued |
| 15:39:51 | peanutz | yeah.. a little pricey too.. |
| 15:39:56 | mandrake | I've always loved them, though. |
| 15:40:04 | peanutz | i hope you didn't pay that much! |
| 15:40:08 | mandrake | when I first drove one in 94 I knew I had to have one |
| 15:40:20 | mandrake | it took be a little while, but I have it now. |
| 15:40:21 | peanutz | what a markup! |
| 15:40:42 | mandrake | the 97 850Ci is worth about 65k right now I think |
| 15:40:50 | peanutz | is that what you have? (a '97?) |
| 15:40:54 | mandrake | yes |
| 15:41:00 | mandrake | that's the last year they imported them into the US |
| 15:41:11 | mandrake | there are only 85 97 850Cis in the US |
| 15:41:30 | mandrake | of those, 20 are in sub-optimal condition |
| 15:41:42 | peanutz | you know too much about this :) |
| 15:41:50 | peanutz | likes his '01 saab.. |
| 15:41:58 | little_bug | anyone here used zic before |
| 15:41:59 | mandrake | mine I got from steven seagal (sp?) |
| 15:42:08 | peanutz | really?? |
| 15:42:20 | peanutz | must have had to sell when his movie career went downhill |
| 15:42:23 | peanutz | did you meet him personally? |
| 15:43:16 | peanutz | my mother has a 740il |
| 15:43:18 | peanutz | its nice.. |
| 15:43:32 | peanutz | but the most i'm willing to spend on a car (new) is 50k |
| 15:43:54 | peanutz | i looked at the various Zs, but I have a 2year old.. my wife wanted a nice back seat |
| 16:31:53 | peanutz | yawns.. |
| 16:32:05 | peanutz | an exotic z8 would be nice.. |
| 16:40:05 | Hellaenergy | I can't even get the Qtopia example to compile |
| 16:40:23 | kergoth | Hellaenergy: whats it do? |
| 16:40:31 | kergoth | mornin peanut |
| 16:40:34 | kergoth | yawns |
| 16:40:41 | Hellaenergy | can't make main.o |
| 16:40:51 | kergoth | okay... |
| 16:41:13 | Hellaenergy | make: *** [main.o] Error 1 |
| 16:41:31 | kergoth | k, that is useless information |
| 16:41:31 | Hellaenergy | make: *** [main.o] Error 1 |
| 16:41:40 | kergoth | that actual error that caused main.o to fail is above that |
| 16:41:42 | Hellaenergy | It wouldn't let me paste the rest |
| 16:42:00 | Hellaenergy | /opt/Qtopia/include/qcstring.h: In function `int cstrncmp(const char *, const char *, unsigned int)': |
| 16:42:06 | kergoth | i havent tried to make the example, myself |
| 16:42:11 | Hellaenergy | /opt/Qtopia/include/qcstring.h:107: implicit declaration of function `int strncmp(...)' |
| 16:42:29 | Hellaenergy | so I tried #include <string.h> |
| 16:42:35 | Hellaenergy | nothing |
| 16:42:47 | kergoth | you'd need that include of string.h in qcstring.h |
| 16:42:49 | kergoth | of course |
| 16:43:12 | Hellaenergy | I'll look at it again |
| 16:45:47 | Hellaenergy | They got it as strings.h |
| 16:46:55 | kergoth | hah |
| 16:47:17 | Hellaenergy | Why they gota mess with a rookie like that |
| 16:47:26 | Hellaenergy | ;_ |
| 16:50:42 | bipolar | kergoth: I've figgured out how to get patches from qtopia CVS to apply to opie. |
| 16:51:26 | kergoth | bipolar: hows that? |
| 16:52:08 | bipolar | kergoth: cvs rdiff -R -c -D YYYY/MM/DD qpe > patch.diff |
| 16:52:49 | kergoth | bipolar: ah, where YYYY/MM/DD is the date of the previous sync of qtopia with opie? |
| 16:52:50 | bipolar | kergoth: that makes a patch from that date to HEAD |
| 16:52:54 | kergoth | yeah |
| 16:52:55 | kergoth | cool |
| 16:52:58 | bipolar | very |
| 16:54:11 | kergoth | hm looks like sharp released the source code to their wlan-ng |
| 16:54:59 | peanutz | yep.. |
| 16:55:10 | peanutz | but wheres the rom? |
| 16:56:02 | bipolar | kergoth: i just applied the patch and I'm going to test a build before I commit. |
| 16:56:11 | kergoth | peanutz: good question |
| 16:56:13 | kergoth | bipolar: k |
| 16:56:16 | peanutz | :) |
| 16:56:20 | peanutz | i thought jason said today.. |
| 16:56:27 | peanutz | well, i guess there are a few hours left :) |
| 16:56:31 | kergoth | bipolar: I'll try to check qtopia in on a vendor branch today |
| 16:56:41 | kergoth | peanutz: indeed |
| 16:57:52 | peanutz | waits patiently.. |
| 17:01:42 | bipolar | it's building.... we'll see how it goes... |
| 17:02:06 | bipolar | I wish I was running this on a big-ass dual athlon system... |
| 17:03:24 | bipolar | time for lunch with the g/f.... :-) |
| 17:03:43 | bipolar_lunch | is away: be back later.... |
| 17:08:41 | whardier | hi |
| 17:09:19 | kergoth | hey whardier |
| 17:09:30 | peanutz | hey whardier |
| 17:12:28 | kergoth | bipolar_lunch: when you get back.. i need to tell you how cvs vendor branches work.. they'll make our lives much, much easier |
| 17:12:29 | tux_mike | blah. i could so use a vacation |
| 17:15:30 | whardier | me too |
| 17:17:14 | peanutz | yawns again.. |
| 17:17:29 | peanutz | wheres the rom |
| 17:18:26 | kergoth | peanutz: patience! :-) |
| 17:21:53 | msmax[test] | kergoth: what is the time frame for OZ 3 now? |
| 17:23:14 | kergoth | msmax[test]: everything hinges on the jffs2/mtd stuff... tim riker is working on that, so we'd have to ask him.. most of the bugs in oz 2.5-2 have been fixed.. |
| 17:23:33 | kergoth | msmax[test]: the only thing I need to do today, is finish up the dependency for the tKc apps |
| 17:24:46 | kergoth | msmax[test]: I'd like to get a pre-release ver of the rom to jason to show at linuxworld this wkend |
| 17:29:59 | msmax[test] | that would be cool |
| 17:32:04 | peanutz | wonders if sharp is rushing to release the rom |
| 17:34:20 | msmax[test] | actually they have been delaying it for hancom |
| 17:35:55 | kergoth | msmax[test]: whats the hold up with the hancom stuff? their apps not ready for release? |
| 17:36:16 | peanutz | what? |
| 17:36:24 | peanutz | so does that mean no release today? |
| 17:38:05 | peanutz | hrmm.. |
| 17:40:03 | kergoth | grumbles about vfs not being able to mount the root fs |
| 17:45:30 | sjohnson | is away: I'm busy |
| 17:49:06 | kergoth | .. |
| 17:49:09 | kergoth | quiet in here today |
| 17:49:28 | peanutz | i'll talk.. |
| 17:49:31 | peanutz | what do you want to talk about |
| 17:49:47 | peanutz | how the Z would be nice in different colors.. |
| 17:49:49 | peanutz | maybe.. |
| 17:50:25 | kergoth | heh. we could curse about how we want the rom and how we want to buy a second cradle |
| 17:50:26 | kergoth | :-) |
| 17:50:38 | peanutz | wait a minute.. thats my line |
| 17:50:42 | peanutz | thief! |
| 17:50:44 | peanutz | hehe |
| 17:50:51 | kergoth | hah |
| 17:50:57 | kergoth | i'm hoping bzflag gets jffs2 working soon. |
| 17:51:00 | kergoth | cuz that'll be nifty. |
| 17:51:04 | peanutz | yes it will.. |
| 17:51:13 | tux_mike | i thought it was working? |
| 17:51:33 | kergoth | tux_mike: ugh.. jffs2 will work, but the new mtd driver isnt working.. cant seem to get the jffs2 rootfs to mount as /dev/mtdblock4.. |
| 17:51:56 | tux_mike | ah |
| 17:52:16 | kergoth | and without the new mtd driver, though we can have a jffs2 rootfs, the mtd device isnt writable.. so its useless |
| 17:52:16 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:52:54 | tux_mike | mmm hrm |
| 17:57:04 | msmax[test] | hancom had a lot of work and lttle time |
| 17:57:17 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:57:29 | msmax[test] | we are working on our desktop 2.0 release at the same time |
| 18:35:54 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:50:24) |
| 18:45:13 | peanutz | is sad |
| 18:45:14 | whardier | la |
| 18:45:22 | whardier | makes peanutz happy! |
| 18:45:25 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:45:28 | peanutz | YIPPEE! |
| 18:45:28 | whardier | lala la la la la lalalalalalalala |
| 18:45:33 | peanutz | hehehehe |
| 18:51:59 | whardier | la |
| 18:52:06 | whardier | feels a headache coming on |
| 18:52:32 | kergoth | kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 1f:04 |
| 18:52:35 | kergoth | grumbles |
| 18:52:48 | whardier | lesbians sure are neat |
| 18:54:10 | whardier | hello my pimp |
| 18:54:20 | matrix_ | aww yeah.. |
| 18:54:24 | matrix_ | uh oh.. delete doesn't work. |
| 18:54:38 | whardier | I am gonna need 2 lesbians and one tub of jello shipped to me asap.. put it on my tab |
| 18:54:47 | matrix_ | done and odone! |
| 18:54:59 | whardier | spiff |
| 18:55:00 | matrix_ | how do I set the erase char in bitchX? |
| 18:55:08 | whardier | I runno |
| 18:55:18 | matrix_ | well.. shift-backspace works.. |
| 18:55:22 | whardier | use stty on the console first |
| 18:55:22 | kergoth | matrix_: you set it on your tty or pseudo tty using 'stty' |
| 18:55:26 | kergoth | whardier: yeah, that |
| 18:55:27 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:55:34 | matrix_ | it works finin console though.. |
| 18:55:37 | matrix_ | hg.. I |
| 18:55:41 | matrix_ | I juse gf |
| 18:55:44 | matrix_ | brb |
| 18:55:49 | whardier | runs around singing the lesbian song |
| 18:56:00 | whardier | I juse gf? |
| 18:56:08 | whardier | I juse gf? |
| 18:56:12 | matrix_ | heh |
| 18:56:23 | matrix_ | I accedently bound a bunch of typig keys to random things.. |
| 18:56:29 | whardier | haha |
| 18:56:34 | matrix_ | so delete works fine in console, but doesn't here.. |
| 18:56:35 | whardier | I just GF!! YOU HEAD! |
| 18:56:40 | matrix_ | something must be bound wrong.. |
| 18:58:03 | matrix_ | sweet.. fixed.. |
| 18:58:14 | matrix_ | so who's been doing development stuff? |
| 18:58:15 | matrix_ | not me.. |
| 18:58:24 | matrix_ | stupid QT. |
| 18:58:33 | whardier | heh |
| 18:58:42 | matrix_ | plus i just moved, so my Z is packed away somewhere.. |
| 18:59:08 | whardier | ? |
| 18:59:32 | whardier | google is bright |
| 18:59:37 | matrix_ | yeah.. |
| 18:59:38 | Error403 | stupid Qt?!?!?! |
| 18:59:44 | matrix_ | nods to error |
| 18:59:45 | Error403 | Ok, time to open a can of whop ass |
| 18:59:48 | whardier | its pretty mofofoin dumb |
| 19:00:11 | matrix_ | I had a nice app, compiling fine for QT 2.3.2, and then I couldn't get it to work w/ qte 2.3.2 |
| 19:00:22 | matrix_ | portable my ass.. |
| 19:00:30 | Error403 | matrix_: Because they took features out of Qt/E for the Z so that it is smaller |
| 19:00:34 | Error403 | hey, bitch to them |
| 19:00:40 | Error403 | it isn't TrollTech's fault |
| 19:00:42 | matrix_ | heh.. I know.. but still.. portable my ass.. |
| 19:00:50 | matrix_ | yeah, QT is fun to develop for.. |
| 19:00:52 | whardier | itworks now |
| 19:00:55 | whardier | marix |
| 19:00:57 | matrix_ | until you try to make something work on the Z |
| 19:01:03 | matrix_ | what works now? |
| 19:01:08 | whardier | the new sdk fixes a few of those issues |
| 19:01:11 | matrix_ | really? |
| 19:01:12 | Error403 | no |
| 19:01:17 | Error403 | no it doesn't :) |
| 19:01:17 | whardier | sshhh |
| 19:01:19 | matrix_ | I might just break out my Xlib book instead.. |
| 19:01:20 | whardier | shhh |
| 19:01:21 | Error403 | lol |
| 19:01:26 | whardier | just get him to program |
| 19:01:34 | matrix_ | just write it in X |
| 19:01:35 | kergoth | matrix_: the binary compatibility problems with libqpe is fixed with regard to the Config class. no changes to libqte in sdk. |
| 19:01:44 | whardier | matrix write it in curses |
| 19:01:48 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:01:54 | matrix_ | I could write it in curses in a second.. |
| 19:01:54 | Error403 | matrix_: The Z doesn't have X :) |
| 19:02:07 | whardier | yeah it does |
| 19:02:07 | matrix_ | really? I thought I saw a post on ZZ saying it did.. |
| 19:02:23 | Error403 | matrix_: it *can*, but it doesn't ship with it |
| 19:02:26 | matrix_ | someone hacked it to run X or something.. |
| 19:02:30 | matrix_ | yeah.. whatever.. |
| 19:02:37 | Error403 | dude, that's lame |
| 19:02:42 | matrix_ | if anyone wants to use my app to break into crap, they can put X on there.. |
| 19:02:44 | Error403 | I don't want your app if it is X |
| 19:02:47 | matrix_ | haha |
| 19:02:53 | matrix_ | I'll make it in curses then.. |
| 19:02:57 | matrix_ | but that's lame.. |
| 19:03:00 | Error403 | then I *Really* don't want it |
| 19:03:06 | matrix_ | I had a sweet interface all built and everything.. |
| 19:03:14 | whardier | castaway is on hbo |
| 19:03:16 | matrix_ | I spent a good day or two in designer making it.. |
| 19:03:22 | kergoth | matrix_: just remove the use of classes that are left out of qt/e |
| 19:03:52 | kergoth | heh :-) |
| 19:03:53 | matrix_ | kergoth: that's a pain in the ass, Xspecially if I used a class that made it cool.. |
| 19:04:02 | Error403 | matrix_: look in $QTDIR/src/tools/qtconfig-local.h there is a list of removed classes in there |
| 19:04:09 | kergoth | matrix_: well yeah.. but more of a pain in the ass than rewriting it to use curses? |
| 19:04:12 | matrix_ | like the WAP signal strength meter made out of a progress bar.. |
| 19:04:30 | kergoth | Error403: actually, he should look at qtconfig-qpe.h from qt/ in the qpe from cvs, iirc |
| 19:04:40 | Error403 | matrix_: Trust me, I made Licq run on it :) Now *that* was a pain in the ass... so I don't want to hear about your problems with it missing QFileDialog or something :) |
| 19:04:48 | Error403 | kergoth: ohh shit |
| 19:05:00 | Error403 | kergoth: You're right, I just copy qtconfig-qpe.h over onto that file |
| 19:05:05 | Error403 | slipped my mind |
| 19:05:32 | matrix_ | heh.. Error: yeah, but trimming someone else's code is easier than removing feature that you JUST PUT IN.. |
| 19:05:42 | Error403 | heh |
| 19:05:48 | Error403 | I've written a program for it |
| 19:06:00 | matrix_ | i.e. I just got this thing to work using QT 2.3.2.. and now I have to change it more? very demotivating.. |
| 19:06:03 | Error403 | it isn't that hard, and either you're going to do it or you're not |
| 19:06:40 | matrix_ | yeah, maybe I'll just finish up the code for qt 2.3.2, add all the features, and then pass it off to the community, and see if someone wants to make it compile for qte w/ me |
| 19:06:42 | Error403 | Well, then you're not worthy to be on the device. Chances are that if you don't want to change it now you wouldn't even make bug fix releases because you're so lazy :) |
| 19:06:58 | matrix_ | hahaha.. exactly Error |
| 19:07:05 | matrix_ | bug fixes.. whatever.. |
| 19:07:42 | kergoth | matrix_: wait, let me guess. your code wont have bugs? :-P |
| 19:07:49 | kergoth | matrix_: just port to qt/e damnit |
| 19:07:50 | matrix_ | haha.. no.. I just won't fix them.. |
| 19:07:51 | kergoth | matrix_: heheh |
| 19:07:54 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:08:12 | matrix_ | I'll be like.. here's the code mang.. fix it if you wanna, and we'll make a new version.. |
| 19:08:27 | matrix_ | actaully.. I don't know if that's true.. if a lot of people were using it.. I'd prob do bug fixes.. |
| 19:08:44 | matrix_ | it's just the initial step of finishing it and getting it out there. |
| 19:09:36 | matrix_ | but it's not a very complex program.. it just has 4 threads that run at the same time, and do fairly simple tasks.. |
| 19:09:49 | bipolar | is back (gone 02:06:03) |
| 19:10:16 | matrix_ | WAP monitoring, packet capture, passive network discovery, and ARP poison redirection.. |
| 19:10:33 | matrix_ | and a neato looking QT interface that qt takes care of.. |
| 19:20:14 | peanutz | is starting to lose hope.. |
| 19:20:55 | bipolar | peanutz: you're already hopeless.... |
| 19:20:57 | peanutz | i can't find any jelly for my sandwich |
| 19:21:10 | peanutz | bipolar: aren't we all? |
| 19:21:31 | bipolar | peanutz: thats what my G/F says. I think she's right. |
| 19:22:05 | peanutz | yes.. my wife states the same.. |
| 19:22:11 | peanutz | i think it must be men are hopeless |
| 19:22:21 | peanutz | alas, she doesn't understand my fascination with the Z |
| 19:22:27 | peanutz | or tivo, or linux |
| 19:22:34 | bipolar | hehehe |
| 19:22:41 | peanutz | or the agenda (though she thought that looked like a pos) |
| 19:23:22 | peanutz | hrmm.. |
| 19:23:28 | peanutz | just thought of what qt app he would write |
| 19:23:29 | bipolar | peanutz: She seems to think I'm hopeless becouse of my fascination with softer things.... :) |
| 19:23:35 | peanutz | huh? |
| 19:23:41 | bipolar | hehe |
| 19:23:41 | peanutz | maybe we shouldn't go there |
| 19:23:48 | bipolar | lol |
| 19:23:56 | peanutz | is going to write a qt app that checks the latest rom release from sharps website! |
| 19:24:00 | peanutz | and oz as well |
| 19:24:01 | peanutz | hehehe |
| 19:24:06 | peanutz | right up my alley! |
| 19:28:58 | bipolar | |
| 19:33:57 | peanutz | hrmm.. |
| 19:34:19 | peanutz | realizes that you would need internet access for it to actually work.. |
| 19:34:30 | peanutz | though.. i could just always print "no soup for you!" |
| 19:40:47 | tux_mike | woo. |
| 19:41:10 | tux_mike | i found an rf data modulator for my bot! :) |
| 19:41:24 | peanutz | awesome! |
| 19:41:34 | peanutz | what was the brand? neil? |
| 19:41:42 | tux_mike | lynx |
| 19:42:07 | tux_mike | i'm going to try to use the eval board, http://www.rfdigital.com/product.htm?item=rfd24043 |
| 19:42:55 | peanutz | geez.. what a deal on qnty pricing! |
| 19:43:18 | tux_mike | that's an eval board. you rarely buy them in quantity |
| 19:43:27 | peanutz | i know :) |
| 19:43:32 | peanutz | its funny to see their cart app |
| 19:43:51 | tux_mike | my bot's also linux powered :) |
| 19:44:39 | tux_mike | i'm using a 5x86 SBC (I forget the brand... I found it in an ad on ELJ) |
| 20:03:23 | kergoth | subversion is nifty |
| 20:24:52 | kergoth | yawns |
| 20:27:04 | bipolar | kergoth: opie is built. |
| 20:27:54 | whardier | waffles are from heaven |
| 20:28:39 | kergoth | bipolar: excellent. we should change the logos soon, so we can approach a release. |
| 20:28:46 | whardier | hehe |
| 20:28:52 | whardier | who is administeringopie? |
| 20:28:54 | kergoth | whardier: 'make openzaurus' = nifty |
| 20:29:06 | bipolar | kergoth: opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/ |
| 20:29:07 | whardier | I make openzaurus nifty? |
| 20:29:13 | whardier | gleems |
| 20:29:13 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:29:14 | kergoth | no |
| 20:29:18 | whardier | yes I do! |
| 20:29:21 | whardier | hehe |
| 20:29:45 | bipolar | wtf... |
| 20:29:55 | whardier | warf tarf farf |
| 20:29:59 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:30:05 | kergoth | damnit damnit damnit |
| 20:30:34 | whardier | ?arf its nice to take acronyms to that |
| 20:30:42 | whardier | wwjd = warf warf jarf darf |
| 20:31:33 | bipolar | There. Now it works. :) |
| 20:32:04 | whardier | now if only there was a "make familiar" |
| 20:32:18 | bipolar | whardier: that would be useful at bars.... |
| 20:32:30 | whardier | ? |
| 20:32:33 | bipolar | lol |
| 20:32:41 | whardier | "make attractive" |
| 20:32:44 | bipolar | hahah |
| 20:32:57 | kergoth | hah |
| 20:33:25 | whardier | so |
| 20:33:30 | whardier | anybody hung a towel recently? |
| 20:33:47 | whardier | <- needs morewaffles |
| 20:35:27 | tux_mike | whardier: how long have you been coding? |
| 20:35:40 | tux_mike | wwjd == who wants jack daniels |
| 20:36:36 | whardier | tux_mike why do you ask |
| 20:36:39 | whardier | ? |
| 20:38:49 | tux_mike | you just seem nutty |
| 20:39:02 | whardier | that has something to do with coding? |
| 20:39:18 | peanutz | yes.. thats why i am called peanut |
| 20:39:18 | tux_mike | usually. |
| 20:39:30 | whardier | coding too long |
| 20:39:34 | whardier | or having experience coding |
| 20:39:36 | whardier | ? |
| 20:39:39 | tux_mike | either that or chemical imbalances. |
| 20:40:21 | whardier | ? |
| 20:40:37 | tux_mike | ! |
| 20:40:44 | whardier | @ |
| 20:42:21 | kergoth | bored. |
| 20:42:23 | kergoth | very bored. |
| 20:42:28 | kergoth | yawns. |
| 20:42:46 | bipolar | kergoth: I'm commiting the Qtopia updates to Opie. |
| 20:42:56 | kergoth | bipolar: k |
| 20:43:01 | bipolar | kergoth: The packages for the iPaq are up. |
| 20:43:06 | kergoth | bipolar: i see that |
| 20:43:29 | kergoth | bipolar: i'm not sure how importing tne latest qpe on a vendor branch will affect what we have now |
| 20:43:41 | bipolar | kergoth: how do we go about changing the logos? |
| 20:43:42 | kergoth | bipolar: we may lose the opie specific changes, and have to check them back in |
| 20:43:56 | kergoth | bipolar: well currently it uses qpe-logo.png, right whardier? |
| 20:43:57 | bipolar | kergoth: there are very few ATM |
| 20:44:04 | whardier | yeah |
| 20:44:09 | bipolar | kergoth: thats what it looks like. |
| 20:44:10 | kergoth | bipolar: yeah i know, just name changes and launcherview |
| 20:44:33 | kergoth | bipolar: you have a current opie checked out right? when I import this, we need to ensure we have the opie specific stuff backed up somewhere |
| 20:44:41 | bipolar | kergoth: but it seems that the code to put qt-logo into the system is the the Qt build. |
| 20:44:54 | bipolar | kergoth: we'll make a diff. |
| 20:45:02 | kergoth | bipolar: that works |
| 20:45:13 | kergoth | bipolar: have you committed the changes yet? |
| 20:45:13 | whardier | jus make an opie-logo |
| 20:45:23 | whardier | wan me to make one? |
| 20:45:27 | bipolar | kergoth: yep. We're synced with qtopia right now. |
| 20:45:32 | bipolar | whardier: Sure. |
| 20:45:37 | kergoth | bipolar: k, I'm going to import to a vendor branch |
| 20:45:47 | bipolar | whardier: We need a small one for the main menu too. |
| 20:45:52 | whardier | k |
| 20:46:04 | kergoth | bipolar: I'm thinking the vendor tag should be TT and the revision tag should be QTOPIA_CVS_20020125 or something similar |
| 20:46:15 | bipolar | akk |
| 20:46:25 | kergoth | bipolar: since we're not importing a release... |
| 20:46:26 | whardier | hmm |
| 20:46:33 | whardier | I have not seen an attractive female in 15 days |
| 20:46:39 | whardier | this is fucking me up |
| 20:46:39 | kergoth | whardier: i pity you. |
| 20:46:53 | whardier | I spring one everytime I turn on the cable tv |
| 20:47:11 | bipolar | whats up with library/backend/vcc_yacc.cpp, library/custom-sharp.h, and library/Makefile.add? |
| 20:47:17 | kergoth | whardier: you need help |
| 20:47:45 | kergoth | bipolar: from reading hte cvslogs, the backend change was a sync option change, and custom-sharp was just the custom.h for the Z.. i dunno about Makefile.add |
| 20:47:46 | bipolar | hands whardier a box of tissues.... |
| 20:48:12 | whardier | bipolar undersands me |
| 20:48:28 | whardier | somebody ship me an old fling or somethig |
| 20:50:12 | bipolar | kergoth: I think those files were in the patch from Qtopia. I added them into the CVS. |
| 20:50:54 | kergoth | bipolar: yeah they were |
| 20:50:58 | kergoth | bipolar: good |
| 20:52:10 | whardier | my house is in heat |
| 20:52:18 | whardier | it whines for sex |
| 20:52:25 | whardier | its the most annying sound in the wold |
| 20:52:28 | whardier | world |
| 20:52:37 | whardier | some houses creak and setle |
| 20:52:48 | whardier | but no.. this house was built in the 60's and it whines for booty |
| 20:54:02 | bipolar | CVS is awesome. |
| 20:54:06 | kergoth | bipolar: yes |
| 20:54:07 | bipolar | I love this. |
| 20:54:11 | whardier | haha |
| 20:54:12 | kergoth | bipolar: have you looked into subversion at all? |
| 20:54:21 | bipolar | kergoth: subversion? |
| 20:54:40 | bipolar | kergoth: i've been told I'm very subversive.... |
| 20:54:45 | kergoth | bipolar: it seems superior, though a bit different.. its another revision control system.. it supports file metadata, and a number of other features |
| 20:54:56 | kergoth | bipolar: http://subversion.tigris.org/ |
| 20:55:44 | whardier | meeeeeeeeeeetaaaaaaaaaaaaaadaaaaaaaaaaaaaataaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 20:55:50 | kergoth | bipolar: supports moving and copying files within a repository |
| 20:56:02 | kergoth | bipolar: and it can DELETE a directory recursively without local repository access! |
| 20:56:06 | kergoth | bipolar: heh |
| 20:57:48 | kergoth | bipolar: you need to clean up the opie repository.. half the Makefiles in there shouldnt be there, as they're generated by configure |
| 20:58:48 | kergoth | bipolar: n/m, i'll remove them |
| 21:02:52 | bipolar | kergoth: :) |
| 21:05:34 | kergoth | bipolar: its importing, hopefully this works |
| 21:05:39 | whardier | hehe |
| 21:06:13 | kergoth | woah |
| 21:06:17 | kergoth | 84 conflicts created by this import |
| 21:06:21 | kergoth | those must be the files we'd changed |
| 21:06:41 | bipolar | kergoth: what did you try to do? |
| 21:06:52 | kergoth | bipolar: I imported qpe from cvs into the TT vendor branch |
| 21:06:59 | kergoth | bipolar: and it told me which files we need to merge in |
| 21:07:00 | kergoth | bipolar: :-) |
| 21:07:06 | kergoth | bipolar: this is nifty. |
| 21:07:25 | bipolar | kergoth: is there any way we could just ignore those files/ |
| 21:07:26 | bipolar | ? |
| 21:07:34 | kergoth | bipolar: hold on |
| 21:11:04 | kergoth | bipolar: its trying to merge our changes into the vendor branch |
| 21:11:12 | kergoth | bipolar: if there's no conflicts, i'm commit them back in, and we'll be done |
| 21:11:18 | kergoth | s/i'm/i'll/ |
| 21:11:21 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:11:42 | bipolar | kergoth: cool |
| 21:12:01 | kergoth | woot! |
| 21:12:03 | kergoth | no conflicts |
| 21:12:05 | kergoth | it merged them in |
| 21:12:28 | whardier | you merged in the conflicts? |
| 21:12:42 | kergoth | hrm |
| 21:12:51 | kergoth | bipolar: did you change qpeapplication.cpp or version.h? |
| 21:12:59 | kergoth | ah yes you did |
| 21:13:10 | bipolar | :) |
| 21:13:33 | kergoth | whatd you change in qpeapplication.cpp? |
| 21:13:53 | bipolar | I don't remember.... What does the tag say? |
| 21:14:30 | bipolar | I think it was a failed hunk in the patch from qtopia. It was just a comment. |
| 21:14:32 | kergoth | oh the cvs version string in the header changed |
| 21:14:59 | bipolar | kergoth: Yeah. that was it. |
| 21:21:09 | peanutz | is off.. |
| 21:21:13 | peanutz | time to catch the train |
| 21:21:21 | kergoth | bipolar: |
| 21:21:23 | kergoth | i think it worked |
| 21:21:46 | bipolar | kergoth: I just got a msg from opie-cvs saying that your vendor branch import report is too big for the list. :) |
| 21:22:08 | kergoth | test: cvs co -jTT opie; <-to obtain the latest qtopia from cvs. cvs co opie; <-to obtain the latest opie |
| 21:22:11 | kergoth | bipolar: hah |
| 21:22:30 | kergoth | bipolar: try the test, do a diff. see if it worked |
| 21:22:33 | kergoth | brb. |
| 21:22:53 | bipolar | kergoth: I cant right now. I'm leaving in a few. |
| 21:32:53 | kergoth | grumbles |
| 21:32:59 | kergoth | bipolar: wipe the repository. |
| 21:33:12 | bipolar | kergoth: What happend? |
| 21:33:27 | kergoth | bipolar: didnt work properly. opie-snake.control and others are still there when I check out TT branch |
| 21:34:08 | kergoth | bipolar: wipe the repository, i'll start it from scratch. |
| 21:34:08 | bipolar | kergoth: but thats just the TT branch. There are only a few .control files. Cant we rm them manualy? |
| 21:34:41 | kergoth | bipolar: hmmm thats true, but why arent qpe-snake.control and others there then? they shouldve been there from the import i did |
| 21:34:53 | bipolar | kergoth: yes. That is true. |
| 21:35:26 | bipolar | kergoth: I'm about to get a call from the g/f and then I'm heading over there for dinner+. |
| 21:35:43 | kergoth | bipolar: k. you have local access to the repository? |
| 21:36:01 | bipolar | kergoth: yes. |
| 21:36:14 | kergoth | bipolar: k, cool |
| 21:36:35 | bipolar | kergoth: You want me to wipe it so you can reimport? |
| 21:36:45 | kergoth | bipolar: yeah |
| 21:36:55 | bipolar | kergoth: Do you have the code to import? |
| 21:37:08 | kergoth | bipolar: yeah, i have a fresh co of opie, and a qpe->opie rdiff |
| 21:37:30 | whardier | Mallory: hi |
| 21:37:33 | whardier | err |
| 21:37:35 | whardier | haha |
| 21:37:45 | whardier | I typed all: |
| 21:37:50 | whardier | not Ma |
| 21:38:00 | bipolar | kergoth: cool. will a "rm -rf opie" do what you want? |
| 21:38:17 | kergoth | bipolar: yeah thats fine |
| 21:39:01 | bipolar | kergoth: it's wiped |
| 21:39:06 | kergoth | bipolar: k |
| 21:39:16 | bipolar | kergoth: I hope you can get ti up quick. :) |
| 21:39:27 | kergoth | bipolar: yeah I'm about to import |
| 21:46:10 | bipolar | Anyone know a script to add a space to the front of every line in a text file? :) |
| 21:46:59 | kergoth | mv file file.old; cat file.old|sed -e 's#\(.*\)# $1#g'>file; # iirc |
| 21:47:10 | bipolar | wow.... |
| 21:47:20 | bipolar | kergoth: here's another one...:) |
| 21:47:52 | bipolar | kergoth: If I want to number all the lines in a files that match an expression, but only those lines. |
| 21:48:12 | bipolar | kergoth: Are you 133t enough to figure that one out? ;) |
| 21:50:24 | bipolar | hmm... your example just gives me a big, blank file... :\ oh well.... |
| 21:50:34 | kergoth | err |
| 21:50:38 | kergoth | hold on |
| 21:51:04 | bipolar | has a list of mp3's he wants to format.... :) |
| 21:59:48 | kendrick2 | mark kim wrote a c wrapper to do qt multimedia stuff :) :) :) |
| 21:59:57 | kendrick2 | whee! i might be able to start pumping out games soon. |
| 21:59:59 | kendrick2 | bwhahahahahahahah |
| 22:00:32 | Error403 | bleh |
| 22:00:51 | Error403 | wheee, lets not read *that* source code |
| 22:00:56 | Error403 | :P |
| 22:01:30 | Error403 | Lets add another layer of shit :) |
| 22:01:47 | kendrick2 | what!? |
| 22:02:00 | Error403 | you heard me :) |
| 22:02:05 | kendrick2 | fuck you! |
| 22:02:06 | kendrick2 | hehehe :) |
| 22:02:11 | Error403 | :P |
| 22:02:13 | kendrick2 | you want games, or not? :) |
| 22:02:20 | Error403 | Not C games ;) |
| 22:02:32 | kendrick2 | puffs chest up |
| 22:02:34 | kendrick2 | eheh |
| 22:02:36 | Error403 | heh |
| 22:02:40 | kendrick2 | sorry... i'm in a pissy mood right now |
| 22:02:43 | kendrick2 | work is pissing me off |
| 22:02:44 | Error403 | so am I :) |
| 22:02:52 | kendrick2 | man, i miss the "dot com" days |
| 22:03:03 | kendrick2 | i was making up to four grand a month for doing _NOOOTHING_ |
| 22:03:13 | kendrick2 | now i'm not even making enough to pay my bandwidth bills >:^( |
| 22:03:34 | kendrick2 | so i'm stuck living in corporate idiocy land |
| 22:03:35 | Error403 | sheesh |
| 22:03:50 | kendrick2 | $4000 down to less than $350 per month |
| 22:03:56 | Error403 | ouch |
| 22:03:59 | kendrick2 | yeah |
| 22:04:03 | kendrick2 | i used to live off my website |
| 22:04:08 | kendrick2 | now it's leeching off me |
| 22:04:10 | Error403 | dude, I make way more than that working in the Pharmacy in a grocery store! |
| 22:04:33 | kendrick2 | and those fucking RETARDS at microsoft have screwed up WebTV browsers to the point where I get complaints _DAILY_ that my "site doesn't work" |
| 22:04:47 | kendrick2 | NO,sorry, it's those idjits at MSNTV... they broke your browser, SORRY |
| 22:04:51 | kendrick2 | so frustrating |
| 22:05:14 | Error403 | kissing ass, that's what it is all about |
| 22:05:50 | Neo|Work | kendrick2: if you want bandwidth I can help you with a mirror or what not, free of charge of course |
| 22:06:10 | kendrick2 | well, my new breed software site only costs me bandwidth every now and then... |
| 22:06:18 | kendrick2 | my game site costs $450 base |
| 22:06:29 | Neo|Work | ah, online games stuff? |
| 22:06:30 | kendrick2 | i gets like 4Gb/s or something insane like that |
| 22:06:32 | kendrick2 | (on average) |
| 22:06:37 | kendrick2 | yeah... www.billsgames.com |
| 22:06:43 | Neo|Work | 4 Gbps ? |
| 22:06:44 | kendrick2 | very popular with the old folk and elementary school teachers :) |
| 22:06:50 | Neo|Work | that sounds insanely high. :P |
| 22:06:55 | kendrick2 | something like! |
| 22:07:01 | kendrick2 | 13million _pageviews_ a month, on avg. |
| 22:07:10 | kendrick2 | so, add to that lots of graphics :( |
| 22:07:30 | Neo|Work | that's rather impressive |
| 22:07:45 | kergoth | bipolar: something like: cat file|perl -e 'my $linenum=0; while(<>){ m#[pattern]# ? print $linenum . ": " . $_ : print " " x length($linenum) . ": " . $_; $linenum++; };' |
| 22:07:45 | kendrick2 | i mean, you don't make $4000 per month at only 21c per clickthrough and only get 0.1% click-thru ratio without getting gobs of hits :) |
| 22:08:21 | Neo|Work | Well, I used to make $3k per month on ads. Went away over a year ago. :P |
| 22:08:34 | kendrick2 | what site? |
| 22:08:41 | kendrick2 | what kind of traffic / click-thru rate? |
| 22:08:48 | Neo|Work | http://the.animearchive.org/ |
| 22:08:51 | Neo|Work | 1.4-1.5M per month (pageviews) |
| 22:08:56 | Neo|Work | CTR low |
| 22:08:59 | kendrick2 | my clickthru rate is like 1/10th of average sites, because of so many hits |
| 22:09:08 | kendrick2 | people are too busy spending 200 hits to play solitaire :) |
| 22:09:22 | Neo|Work | And for me people are too busy viewing pics. :) |
| 22:09:28 | kendrick2 | hehe |
| 22:09:44 | Neo|Work | plus of course many ads are completel uninteresting to me and the audience |
| 22:09:49 | kendrick2 | yeah :( |
| 22:10:03 | kendrick2 | i keep getting retard casino people asking me to put ads up |
| 22:10:15 | kendrick2 | (1) casino sites are questionably legal at this point |
| 22:10:24 | kendrick2 | (2) I date Mrs. Smith, the 2nd grade teacher, would appreciate it :) |
| 22:10:35 | kendrick2 | i had a few heath-related ads which were a bit too racy which i had to ask to get removed |
| 22:11:05 | kendrick2 | and when ValueDicks .. I mean ValueClick decided my site doesn't have "the proper demographic" (after 2 years, all of a sudden!?), and I had to sign up for some different, loser banner networks... |
| 22:11:13 | kendrick2 | ... within an hour, I got DOZENS of complaints |
| 22:11:32 | kendrick2 | Some fucking 100fps on-and-of-flashing, seizure-inducing banner |
| 22:11:42 | kendrick2 | I HAVE ELDERLY PEOPEL ON MY SITE! IDIOTS! |
| 22:11:53 | kendrick2 | took DAYS, many e-mails and numerous phone calls to finally get them to take it off |
| 22:11:55 | kendrick2 | ERGH |
| 22:12:10 | Neo|Work | hmm. |
| 22:12:16 | kendrick2 | Then one of the networks said I was being fradulent. Too many hits from the same IP. |
| 22:12:23 | kendrick2 | HELLO!? It's called a PROXY SERVER! |
| 22:12:32 | Neo|Work | I use UGO right now. they are doing as badly as everyone but at least it's something |
| 22:12:50 | Neo|Work | ad networks are known to be shady and have bad excuses. :P |
| 22:13:05 | kendrick2 | gergh... network fileserver doesn't let me connect with samba any more... |
| 22:13:12 | kendrick2 | need to find someone with a stupid win98 box |
| 22:13:45 | whardier | gergh |
| 22:14:32 | whardier | I have a win98 box |
| 22:14:36 | whardier | but no floppy |
| 22:14:37 | whardier | :) |
| 22:14:45 | whardier | I also have a win98 boot disk |
| 22:14:50 | whardier | if you need one |
| 22:14:50 | kendrick2 | no, someone within the corp. network |
| 22:15:33 | kergoth | gah! |
| 22:15:40 | kergoth | i accidentally deleted the qpe->opie.patch |
| 22:15:46 | kergoth | grumbles |
| 22:16:14 | whardier | and this patch does what? |
| 22:16:33 | kergoth | whardier: fixes naming of packages from qpe to opie, applies your launcherview patch, and a few other minor things |
| 22:16:42 | whardier | spiff |
| 22:20:21 | kendrick | hahaha |
| 22:20:37 | kendrick2 | one guy had, like, 25 windows open and was burning a cd |
| 22:20:44 | kendrick2 | he was gonna let me use explorer to ftp something to our webserver... |
| 22:20:53 | kendrick2 | last i saw, he was still trying to recover from his system locking up :) |
| 22:21:14 | kendrick2 | i'm _so_ glad i never have to use windows myself :) |
| 22:21:48 | Neo|Work | JasonNJ2: heya |
| 22:21:54 | kendrick2 | re jason |
| 22:22:01 | JasonNJ2 | hiya |
| 22:22:05 | kendrick2 | jason |
| 22:22:24 | kendrick2 | mark k. kim wrote a c wrapper for qt multimedia stuff (graphics, input, sound) |
| 22:25:19 | kendrick2 | so, if i'm lucky and have some free time on sunday, you might see at least the beginnings of a game for the zaurus :) |
| 22:25:58 | Neo|Work | kendrick2: got an URL for that? |
| 22:26:21 | Neo|Work | not that I dislike C++, but a C-API might be quicker / easier to learn from scratch |
| 22:26:41 | kendrick2 | not currently.. he e-mailed it to me |
| 22:26:54 | kendrick2 | the name is kind of a mouthful :) CQML |
| 22:27:59 | kendrick2 | markslist@cbreak.org |
| 22:28:13 | kendrick2 | btw, he got a clie for a gift recently... |
| 22:28:30 | kendrick2 | thinks it "looks sleeker" than the zaurus :) |
| 22:29:19 | bipolar_away | is away: I'm not here... Really.... |
| 22:29:32 | kendrick2 | http://sp.reserve.co.uk/news/story.php?id=1435&af=ur240102 |
| 22:29:36 | Neo|Work | ok |
| 22:29:38 | kendrick2 | lameness! those screenshots were converted to GIF! |
| 22:31:33 | JasonNJ2 | kendrick will Hall be at Linuxworld? |
| 22:31:38 | JasonNJ2 | I want to give him a Z. |
| 22:32:15 | kendrick2 | shrugs |
| 22:32:40 | kendrick2 | that rules, tho |
| 22:33:42 | kendrick2 | i think he's moving to santa clara or something, dunno when |
| 22:33:49 | kendrick2 | when's LWE again? |
| 22:33:53 | kendrick2 | I never pay attention to the NY ones |
| 22:33:58 | kendrick2 | Only the SJ/SF ones :) |
| 22:34:08 | JasonNJ2 | lwe is next week |
| 22:34:16 | kendrick2 | d'oh! :) |
| 22:34:20 | kendrick2 | no wonder they keep spamming me |
| 22:45:25 | kergoth | yawns |
| 22:46:22 | kendrick2 | hello |
| 22:46:31 | france | re-hi |
| 22:46:35 | kergoth | hey france |
| 22:46:50 | france | kergoth: Hello! |
| 22:49:16 | kendrick2 | does SDL for Zaurus dance |
| 22:49:22 | kendrick2 | (in anticipation) |
| 22:50:17 | treke|work | kendrick2 : ?! |
| 22:51:20 | kendrick2 | overcode's been working on SDL for iPAQ |
| 22:51:30 | treke|work | that I knew :) |
| 22:51:42 | treke|work | possibly some code this weekend |
| 22:51:48 | kendrick2 | ? |
| 22:58:31 | kendrick2 | hey bz |
| 22:58:41 | BZFlag | hey. |
| 23:00:22 | kergoth | BZFlag: hey |
| 23:00:46 | kendrick2 | would love to advertise something on OSDN |
| 23:00:49 | kendrick2 | too bad it's so expensive :) |
| 23:01:02 | kendrick2 | like, no discounts for poor OSS dev'ers? :) |
| 23:04:57 | Hellaenergy | How much? |
| 23:05:55 | kendrick2 | $400-$1000 :( |
| 23:06:04 | Hellaenergy | for how long? |
| 23:07:45 | kergoth | BZFlag: kernel panic: VFS: cannot mount root fs at 1f:04 |
| 23:07:48 | kergoth | BZFlag: hehe :-) |
| 23:07:54 | BZFlag | there was talk about running banner adds from hosted projects on rotation. don't know what ever became of that. |
| 23:08:25 | BZFlag | kergoth: got an initrd.bin that anywhere close to a reasonable size? |
| 23:08:44 | BZFlag | all the locale and i18n support should probably be removed. |
| 23:08:58 | kergoth | BZFlag: well once you added the stuff to remove the static libraries and to strip everything, its 10 megs. still fails to mount root |
| 23:09:04 | kergoth | BZFlag: yeah I was planning on it |
| 23:09:06 | kergoth | BZFlag: heh |
| 23:09:34 | kergoth | s/its 10 megs/the initrd.bin is 10 megs/ |
| 23:10:39 | BZFlag | might want to add init=/bin/sh to the command line for now. |
| 23:11:03 | BZFlag | no time to hack at the moment... |
| 23:11:40 | kendrick2 | reads about controlling stolen mac.. this is kinda cool :) |
| 23:11:43 | kergoth | BZFlag: k.. it doesnt get far enough to try to spawn init.. vfs cant access the rootfs to do so, i'll see the same prob w/ init=/bin/sh |
| 23:12:13 | kergoth | 'VFS: Cannot open root device "mtdblock4" or 1f:04' |
| 23:12:45 | kergoth | jffs2reader build/openzaurus/initrd.bin|grep mtdblock4; # shows the device exists and appears correct |
| 23:13:17 | kergoth | BZFlag: any ideas offhand? I know you dont have time to hack.. but got any hints? hehe :-) |
| 23:19:23 | BZFlag | is there a mtd flash map printed on boot? |
| 23:21:19 | whardier | we need serial cords |
| 23:31:20 | kendrick2 | you can use miniterm/hyperterm/whatever to talk to agenda over serial |
| 23:31:31 | kendrick2 | boot it into serial-only mode :) |
| 23:31:42 | kendrick2 | upload new kernel/etc. to flashram via xmodem :) |
| 23:31:47 | kendrick2 | ducks for cover |
| 23:32:03 | kendrick2 | of course, $30 CF card reader and $50 CF card is SO much more convenient >:^P |
| 23:32:04 | kendrick2 | hehehehehe |
| 23:34:05 | CosmicPenguin | $30? You can get a PCMCIA CF adapter for like 10 bucks |
| 23:34:22 | kendrick2 | and how much is a pcmcia reader? :^P |
| 23:34:35 | CosmicPenguin | They come free with every laptop sold... :) |
| 23:34:35 | whardier | hehe |
| 23:34:38 | whardier | hoo hoo |
| 23:34:38 | whardier | haha |
| 23:34:51 | kendrick2 | so, about $3000? :) |
| 23:34:57 | kendrick2 | i have a zaurus |
| 23:34:58 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, about that |
| 23:35:01 | kendrick2 | i have no need for a laptop :) |
| 23:35:14 | kendrick2 | course, i didnt have need for one BEFORE i had a zaurus ;) |
| 23:42:59 | kergoth`home | BZFlag: no. failed to find cfi device at location zero, or something like that. |
| 23:55:55 | BZFlag | kergoth`: crap... guess I better fix that. |
| 23:56:02 | BZFlag | not now... back later. |
