| 00:02.40 | Keolah | I tamed a bird of prey for pvp. I wanted to name it "Screwyoupalliesanddeathknights" but it wouldn't fit. |
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| 00:06.27 | sacarasc | What about FUPalasnDKs? |
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| 00:16.48 | ViiKuna | Hi |
| 00:17.27 | ViiKuna | Okay, I'm a total newbie, can someone help me? |
| 00:17.57 | ViiKuna | anyone? |
| 00:18.06 | sacarasc | If you say what the problem is, someone might be able to help. |
| 00:18.10 | ViiKuna | okay |
| 00:19.41 | ViiKuna | So I just played the trial thingy (10 days), I'm about to buy the game. from the game site it says the price is 14,99¤. If I purchase that, do I get to keep the characters, and do I get any playing time with that, or do I have to buy it seperately? |
| 00:20.27 | sacarasc | You get 1 month free when buying the game and you keep everything you've done in the trial. |
| 00:20.45 | ViiKuna | okay |
| 00:23.14 | ViiKuna | hmh, apparently I haven't yet got my jobs pay, so no WoW yet :< |
| 00:28.30 | ViiKuna | oh, and by the way; is it the trial that is stopping me from going over profession skill 100, or is it something else? |
| 00:28.53 | sacarasc | Probably the trial, it limits you in a few ways. |
| 00:37.25 | ViiKuna | oh, and about how long does it take to get to play after the purchase? the site says it might take up to 72h, but it seems kinda long time |
| 00:39.39 | sacarasc | I think I was playing within an hour when I got mine, but it was about 2 years ago and can't remember fully. |
| 00:43.48 | ViiKuna | and you bought it from the WoW site? (with a credit card) |
| 00:44.01 | sacarasc | Yup. |
| 00:44.51 | ViiKuna | okay |
| 00:47.29 | ViiKuna | well, it's almost 4am.. oughta go to sleep |
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| 02:10.15 | pcj | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.28781ef6eb17a6d6b220a90d3bdbe4c6.9f1&show_article=1 |
| 02:10.31 | pcj | Peter Cumming, an associate professor at York University in Toronto, presented a paper on children's sexuality at the 78th Congress of the Humanities and Social Sciences defending the practice as a modern variation on "playing doctor or spin-the-bottle." |
| 02:10.37 | pcj | his last name must be a set up |
| 02:17.28 | Kaso | i see the spin the bottle comparison |
| 02:17.34 | Kaso | but playing doctor? |
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| 02:35.32 | Gravespit | You never played doctor as a kid? :) |
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| 03:05.52 | Kaso | Gravespit not when we ended up naked |
| 03:07.35 | Korenl | When I was a kid, I WAS a doctor |
| 03:08.09 | Korenl | Doogie Howzer style |
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| 05:00.08 | Keolah | Question: How does one manage to die in the inn in Dalaran? :p |
| 05:02.12 | kd3 | locks being emo? |
| 05:04.45 | charitwo | pcj seems like an emo kinda guy |
| 05:09.19 | Arrowmaster | hearthing with some form of DoT |
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| 06:22.36 | charitwo | why so non-cloaked g0urra |
| 06:22.49 | g0urra | I have cloak |
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| 06:23.03 | charitwo | too slow to identifyy |
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| 06:50.33 | Fisker- | slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:50.35 | Fisker- | slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:50.40 | g0urra | k |
| 06:50.45 | Fisker- | l |
| 06:53.03 | Fisker- | g0urra |
| 06:53.05 | Fisker- | wanna make out? |
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| 09:25.07 | Fisker- | so mxs |
| 09:25.09 | Fisker- | teh beta is soon |
| 09:25.11 | Fisker- | soooooooooooooon |
| 09:27.49 | ViiKuna | Got a problem again.... I'm trying to pay with a credit card (Visa Electron), but it keeps saying that there's an error with paying. If I buy the game from a store, do I still get to keep the characters of my trial account? Or is the only possible way to keep the trial characters to buy the game online? |
| 09:28.45 | ViiKuna | or can I just buy some game time? |
| 09:30.58 | Zyferus | you can do either |
| 09:31.12 | Zyferus | or all of the above |
| 09:31.16 | ViiKuna | so I don't even need to own the game..? |
| 09:31.31 | ViiKuna | (I haven't bought the game, I've just used the trial) |
| 09:31.33 | WardH | you need to buy the game, either online or in the store |
| 09:31.43 | Zyferus | well, if you want to play beyond the trial, you will need to purchase the game |
| 09:31.45 | WardH | the game will usually come with some free gametime already |
| 09:32.00 | WardH | you can use the serial that comes with the game to upgrade your trial account |
| 09:32.05 | Zyferus | ^^ |
| 09:32.14 | ViiKuna | oki |
| 09:33.55 | ViiKuna | and also, why does the purchasing form (credit card - visa electron) need my e-mail...? |
| 09:34.20 | ViiKuna | I mean... seriously |
| 09:36.06 | WardH | becuase they'll mail you a receipt |
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| 09:38.52 | ViiKuna | stupid errors... |
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| 12:14.22 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090525/od_nm/us_prisoners_cycling_odd |
| 12:19.03 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090525/od_nm/us_jumper_odd |
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| 12:26.00 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/entertainmentfilmfestivalcannesspainalmodovaroffbeat |
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| 14:06.59 | g0urra | 16:02 (Deletion log)â . . [Gourraâ (151Ã)] |
| 14:06.59 | g0urra | mmm |
| 14:09.25 | Fisker- | g0urra is hacked |
| 14:21.32 | g0urra | BY GOURRA BE PURGED |
| 14:21.47 | Alram | cowers in fear. |
| 14:25.18 | g0urra | you better |
| 14:25.21 | g0urra | or I delete you |
| 14:25.33 | Alram | Find me first! |
| 14:25.51 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Alram |
| 14:26.06 | Alram | Wrong. |
| 14:28.23 | WardH | g0urra, find me |
| 14:29.31 | g0urra | Alram: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Marla then? |
| 14:29.35 | g0urra | WardH: no |
| 14:29.41 | Alram | g0urra |
| 14:29.44 | Alram | Closer |
| 14:30.57 | g0urra | ~_~ |
| 14:31.06 | Alram | It's Marlamin |
| 14:31.07 | Alram | :P |
| 14:32.19 | g0urra | mkay |
| 14:35.23 | XSlicer | search is kind of outdated right |
| 14:36.14 | XSlicer | Since it doesnt have everything (new) and search previews have old text.. |
| 14:37.46 | g0urra | yeah it's very outdated |
| 14:38.39 | WardH | I did ramps last week with char I'm leveling |
| 14:38.40 | WardH | I healed |
| 14:38.46 | WardH | druid mate tanked |
| 14:38.50 | WardH | we do every instance like that |
| 14:38.58 | WardH | bring some dps |
| 14:39.03 | WardH | if they suck we continue 2 man :p |
| 14:39.09 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Netherfury_Leggings |
| 14:39.21 | g0urra | changed over 2 months ago.. and the search cache is from august |
| 14:39.25 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=Increases+damage+and+healing+done+by+magical+spells+and+effects+by |
| 14:39.29 | WardH | wrong channel |
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| 19:47.48 | Antillie | *crickets* |
| 19:48.25 | Ose|Barca | *rugbys* |
| 19:48.50 | Antillie | lol |
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| 20:44.17 | Ketrel | What's Nightfall (as far as a warlock is concerned)? |
| 20:45.04 | Ose|Barca | A GuildWars expansion innit? |
| 20:49.21 | Arrowmaster | an affliction talent |
| 20:49.39 | Arrowmaster | that always procs at the wrong time |
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| 20:50.35 | Ose|Barca | http://www.guildwars.com/support/gamecontents/nightfall/ |
| 20:50.39 | Ose|Barca | xD |
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| 21:47.26 | Ketrel | Oh, It calls it night fall, but it means Shadowtrance |
| 21:50.11 | Gnarfoz | talent: Nightfall |
| 21:50.15 | Gnarfoz | proc name: Shadow Trance |
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| 22:05.18 | Ketrel | It tells you when "nightfall" procs |
| 22:05.32 | Ketrel | when it's "Shadow Trance" that procs, which is why I was confused ;) |
| 22:06.17 | Gnarfoz | NightfallRank 2 |
| 22:06.17 | Gnarfoz | Gives your Corruption and Drain Life spells a 4% chance to cause you to enter a Shadow Trance state after damaging the opponent. The Shadow Trance state reduces the casting time of your next Shadow Bolt spell by 100%. |
| 22:06.22 | Gnarfoz | "Shadow Trance" :P |
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| 22:08.27 | Ketrel | Here's a question, when you have the glyph of corruption, does that replace, or add to that percentage? |
| 22:08.34 | Ketrel | and nvm |
| 22:08.39 | Ketrel | I see my answer on the wiki |
| 22:10.12 | Gnarfoz | use wowhead comments, they make more sense :P |
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| 22:19.16 | Keolah | I made a lock. |
| 22:19.16 | Ose|Barca | aw my gawd |
| 22:19.16 | Keolah | She's sexy. But her imp's name is "Dagpad". :p Why do imps always have stupid names? |
| 22:20.23 | Ose|Barca | karma |
| 22:20.26 | Arrowmaster | you used to be able to abandon demons and resummon for a new name but they fixed that |
| 22:21.42 | Keolah | I hope her VW has a better name. |
| 22:22.22 | Ose|Barca | Blurg |
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| 22:31.57 | crucially | switching DNS providers for wowwiki |
| 22:32.01 | crucially | let me know if there are any problems |
| 22:33.06 | Gnarfoz | that's gotta be fun ;P |
| 22:34.00 | Antillie | so if i'm on a normal server i can wander to say... the barrens without getting killed by random horde ppl? |
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| 22:34.09 | Antillie | if i'm alliance |
| 22:34.42 | crucially | Antillie: depends on if you are cute or not, if you are cute they can kill you |
| 22:34.54 | Antillie | cute? |
| 22:35.00 | Gnarfoz | as soon as you're in a zone that's "red" (hostile territory), you're killable |
| 22:35.08 | Antillie | oh ok |
| 22:35.24 | Antillie | i thought that was just enemy cities |
| 22:35.42 | Gnarfoz | enemy starting zones are usually red, too |
| 22:35.48 | Antillie | ahh ok |
| 22:35.55 | Gnarfoz | not sure if Barrens is red or yellow |
| 22:36.05 | Gnarfoz | because Mulgore/Durotar should be the starting zones |
| 22:36.58 | Arrowmaster | barrens is considered horde, not contested |
| 22:43.45 | Keolah | no |
| 22:44.04 | Keolah | If you are on a pve server, you DO NOT become flagged from entering the barrens or even durotar. |
| 22:44.09 | Keolah | You only get flagged if you actually enter Orgrimmar. |
| 22:44.47 | Keolah | The Barrens is perfectly safe to wander around as alliance on normal servers. |
| 22:45.32 | g0urra | pcj let have moar admins pl0x |
| 22:46.07 | Fisker- | ze medic is a spy |
| 22:46.21 | Keolah | I don't know why these myths persist.. I play a pve server and have gone all over the place.. no flagging except actually in enemy cities or pvp zones (wintergrasp) |
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| 22:47.40 | a_s_y_d_ | hi |
| 22:48.14 | Keolah | ih |
| 22:48.28 | a_s_y_d_ | could you help me with Rawr ? |
| 22:48.57 | a_s_y_d_ | Rawr & wine |
| 22:49.00 | Keolah | Nope. don't even know what that is. |
| 22:50.11 | Gnarfoz | Keolah: guess why it persists :P |
| 22:50.54 | Keolah | Because idiots play pvp servers and don't know how normal servers work? :p |
| 22:51.37 | Gnarfoz | the other way around, obviously :p |
| 22:51.55 | g0urra | huh? |
| 22:52.55 | g0urra | Antillie asked about how it was on a normal server, not on a pvp server |
| 22:52.59 | Keolah | They were talking about normal servers, not pvp servers. |
| 22:54.55 | g0urra | what she said |
| 22:55.04 | Keolah | And if for some reason somebody doesn't believe me, I get a screenshot of my dwarf paladin dancing around unflagged on top of the Razor Hill inn ;p |
| 22:55.13 | Gnarfoz | I won't spell it out for you, since it would be just as much flamebaiting as Keolah's own idea :p |
| 22:55.45 | Keolah | [17:34:05] <Antillie> so if i'm on a normal server i can wander to say... the barrens without getting killed by random horde ppl? |
| 22:55.48 | Gnarfoz | I don't even have a "flag" indicator in my UI, since I'm on rp-pvp anyway ^^ |
| 22:55.50 | Keolah | normal server. ;p |
| 22:56.02 | Gnarfoz | Keolah: you're totally not getting what I was suggesting |
| 22:56.11 | Arrowmaster | yellow name or blue name? |
| 22:56.23 | Keolah | You said they would be flagged in the barrens. They would not be. ;p |
| 22:56.41 | Gnarfoz | Keolah: and you fail to notice when a conversation moves to a new topic |
| 22:57.03 | Gnarfoz | you obviously corrected me, and that was the end of that topic. after that, you asked why the misinformation persists. |
| 22:57.06 | Keolah | What new topic? We're talking about whether or not an alliance char on a normal server would be flagged in a newbie horde area. |
| 22:57.16 | Gnarfoz | no, that was concluded when you corrected me |
| 22:57.50 | Keolah | And don't take anything I ever say seriously or personally, because I call _everyone_ idiots, you idiot :P |
| 22:57.55 | Arrowmaster | for some reason i was just reminded of our zombie raid on the town in duskwood and then goldshire |
| 22:58.02 | Keolah | lol |
| 22:58.21 | Arrowmaster | i swear we had over 200 guards attacking us |
| 22:58.34 | g0urra | I remember taking over Lower City with my zombie army. |
| 22:58.36 | g0urra | Good times. |
| 22:58.39 | Gnarfoz | Keolah: I didn't and I wouldn't, that's why I already typed out what I intended to say, but refrained from sending it off :D |
| 22:58.47 | Keolah | Would you prefer "Because people play pvp servers and don't know how pve servers work"? :P |
| 22:59.11 | Arrowmaster | we may have been the ones that discovered the weapon swap for insta heal zombie bug......... |
| 22:59.44 | Gnarfoz | I was going to suggest something more along the lines of pvp server players obviously communicating more |
| 23:00.13 | g0urra | why? |
| 23:00.24 | g0urra | "HEY GUIS WHERE R TEH GANKRZ??" |
| 23:00.29 | Gnarfoz | if pve server players communicated as much, well, every conversation where a pvp server player spouted misinformed crap as I just did would end up being corrected by a pve server player, wouldn't it |
| 23:01.04 | Keolah | This isn't the first time I have corrected people on this particular point, though. |
| 23:01.07 | g0urra | is a PvE server player |
| 23:01.15 | Gnarfoz | carebears inc |
| 23:01.18 | Gnarfoz | be afraid! |
| 23:01.24 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 23:02.26 | Keolah | back in amoment, running ebon blade dailies with my bf. |
| 23:02.37 | g0urra | I take it you're a PvP server player Gnarfoz |
| 23:03.16 | Gnarfoz | gosh, how did you figure THAT out? |
| 23:03.21 | g0urra | the reason why I play on a PvE server is because I like to sit around sometime or go out questing without being afraid of getting ambushed by some low-life rogue |
| 23:03.37 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> I don't even have a "flag" indicator in my UI, since I'm on rp-pvp anyway ^^ <-- possibly this might have given it away ;) |
| 23:03.52 | Gnarfoz | g0urra: well, "no risk, no fun" |
| 23:03.59 | g0urra | got something else to say, wise-ass? |
| 23:04.07 | g0urra | clearly our definition of "fun" are different |
| 23:04.15 | Gnarfoz | I'd have to consult my mentor first |
| 23:04.25 | Antillie | i play pve cause i don't like pvp in general |
| 23:04.26 | Gnarfoz | but then, I usually don't touch enemies most of the time |
| 23:04.43 | Arrowmaster | im on a pvp server and i never pvp |
| 23:05.12 | Gnarfoz | (I'd just bash them into the ground anyway, if they're not one of the few highend pvp players or in one of the top 3 horde guilds) |
| 23:05.50 | Keolah | To quote some guy on IRC once... "My idea of "having fun" does not include the word "jurisprudence"." |
| 23:06.23 | Gnarfoz | ideas are made up of words now? :> |
| 23:06.47 | pcj | are you trying to be difficult |
| 23:07.35 | Keolah | I only do pvp because I don't raid and it's an easy way to fill in gaps in my equipment. |
| 23:08.01 | Gnarfoz | pcj: I'm trying to have a conversation, keeping it going is part of that |
| 23:08.22 | Arrowmaster | i would rather not play wow than pvp instead of pve |
| 23:08.29 | Arrowmaster | oh wait, i already quit |
| 23:08.40 | Gnarfoz | you did? again? ^^ |
| 23:08.47 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 23:09.02 | Arrowmaster | just super casual, i rarely login but my account is still active |
| 23:09.06 | Keolah | Also, wintergrasp is kinda fun. Though it would be more fun if _I_ were the one with ten stacks of tenacity. |
| 23:09.19 | Gnarfoz | I love being the one with X stacks of tenacity ^^ |
| 23:09.29 | Keolah | I wanna get my hordies up to 80 ;p |
| 23:09.43 | Gnarfoz | killing 5 enemy vehicles + the players in them |
| 23:09.58 | Gnarfoz | Divine Shield, heal to full, keep going |
| 23:09.59 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:14.23 | g0urra | moar token females pcj |
| 23:14.26 | g0urra | amirite |
| 23:14.34 | pcj | yeap |
| 23:14.38 | g0urra | k |
| 23:14.42 | g0urra | night |
| 23:15.15 | Keolah | Seems every time I get to first lieutenant in wintergrasp, alliance proceeds to lose ;p |
| 23:16.31 | Antillie | wintergrasp? |
| 23:16.40 | Antillie | is that one of those battlegroud things? |
| 23:16.49 | Keolah | pvp area |
| 23:16.56 | Antillie | ahh |
| 23:16.58 | Keolah | Even on pve servers. |
| 23:17.02 | Antillie | see i like that idea |
| 23:17.17 | Antillie | if i want to pvp i can go do to a place meant for it |
| 23:17.23 | Keolah | It's interesting since it's different -- siege warfare, with tanks and turrets, cannons, destroying walls and towers, etc. |
| 23:17.38 | Keolah | Indeed. |
| 23:17.42 | Antillie | without getting randonly killed by some lvl 80 when i'm out doing quests |
| 23:17.57 | Ketrel | For leveling as a paladin, what's the best spec at low levels? |
| 23:18.21 | Antillie | no clue lol |
| 23:18.36 | Gnarfoz | nowadays, ret |
| 23:18.40 | Keolah | No idea. My pallies were level 70 and 45 when they completely changed around pallies specs. |
| 23:18.41 | Antillie | my highest toon is a lvl 10 paladin |
| 23:18.53 | Keolah | And the 70 leveled up as prot with a mage as backup ;p |
| 23:18.58 | Gnarfoz | since questing is about killing stuff, most of the time, you want the spec that kills stuff :p |
| 23:19.10 | Gnarfoz | and you get the movement speed increase talent quite early |
| 23:19.14 | Arrowmaster | seal of chance at lvl 20 |
| 23:19.29 | Arrowmaster | youll either take forever to kill something or 2shot it |
| 23:19.33 | Gnarfoz | when do you get blood/martyr? |
| 23:19.39 | Keolah | (okay, actually, the 70 spent time as holy and ret before I got a clue and realized what I was trying to do here.) |
| 23:20.04 | Keolah | When I started playing I had no idea what spec did what and what spec was for what :p |
| 23:21.07 | Arrowmaster | blood/martyr is like 66 |
| 23:22.26 | Keolah | So yeah. Now I have a prot pally teamed up with a mage, and a ret pally teamed up with a feral druid. |
| 23:25.54 | Keolah | I want a pet wolvar pup :( |
| 23:31.20 | Antillie | i think i wanna play a tank paladin |
| 23:39.01 | Antillie | seems that palys can tank |
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| 23:43.50 | Keolah | Tank pallies tend to work best when you're actually tanking for somebody and not trying to kill stuff soloing. |
| 23:45.09 | Keolah | They don't do amazing damage by themselves, but they can certainly take it. |
| 23:45.28 | Keolah | Of course, once you get higher up they _can_ put out a fair amount of damage. |
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| 23:58.40 | Antillie | i duo with my wife |
| 23:58.57 | Antillie | she plays a mage and does enough damage for both of us |