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00:04.34 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Future_race_ideas&action=history |
00:05.48 | Kirochi | ? |
00:06.01 | Kirochi | aw, Garm in trouble again |
00:07.38 | pcj | heh |
00:08.38 | Kirochi | reminds me of the good old days |
00:09.02 | Kirochi | when Xmuskrat would have traded his soul for a viable Rumored Races page |
00:13.15 | piu | "It's this mat, that you lay on the floor, and it has "conclusions" written on it, that you can "jump to" !! |
00:13.45 | piu | office space on TV |
00:14.07 | Kirochi | nite |
00:25.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Pandaren_not_part_of_alliance_.28TBC_Interviews.29 |
00:34.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Pandaren_not_part_of_alliance_.28TBC_Interviews.29 |
00:40.35 | Fisker- | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Fisker/stats/TF2 |
00:40.38 | Fisker- | I OWN YOU Kirkburn |
00:45.01 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Glove enchants for the discerning Druid - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/29/glove-enchants-for-the-discerning-druid/ |
00:46.30 | Bagginsww | yep garm is very strange |
00:46.54 | Bagginsww | he acts like future race ideas is a page in order to convince blizzard to create race for a faction, :p |
00:47.12 | Bagginsww | thus if that means trying to discredit one side over the other :p |
00:47.28 | Bagginsww | despite stuff blizzard has stated |
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00:47.49 | FIRE | guys i have a question |
00:48.23 | Fisker- | no me |
00:48.26 | piu | 24 |
00:48.28 | piu | no |
00:48.38 | piu | wait what? |
00:48.58 | piu | what's up fire? |
00:49.01 | Dotted | Fisker- how many insane challenges have you done in peggle? |
00:49.28 | Fisker- | them all |
00:50.25 | Fisker- | This is lunacy |
00:50.59 | Fisker- | almost got 4000g :o |
00:51.37 | Fisker- | must... wait... for the G90 series |
00:52.35 | Dotted | [+Fisker-]: them all <- lies |
00:53.01 | Fisker- | no |
00:53.30 | Fisker- | although i used max hax |
00:53.49 | Fisker- | TF2 |
01:23.59 | FIRE | guys |
01:24.06 | FIRE | i need help with a quest |
01:24.13 | FIRE | is that off topic? |
01:24.26 | Kirkburn | 10th October, here we come Fisker- :P |
01:24.30 | Kirkburn | FIRE, which quest? |
01:24.35 | FIRE | mirror lake |
01:24.47 | Kirkburn | Elwynn? |
01:25.00 | FIRE | no its like southwest of stormwind |
01:25.00 | Kirkburn | Or is that Crystal Lake, I don't recall |
01:25.05 | FIRE | no |
01:25.14 | Kirkburn | What's up? |
01:25.34 | FIRE | i know where it is but when i get there i cant find the exact place to fill bottle up |
01:26.12 | FIRE | any1 got any ideas |
01:29.12 | Kirkburn | Here? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mirror_Lake.jpg |
01:29.57 | Kirkburn | Lake above Forest's Edge on here I guess? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Elwynn_Forest_Map.jpg |
01:30.07 | Kirkburn | Don't know the quest or spot though |
01:34.00 | Bagginsww | Hmm kirkburn I think we should probably remove "dragonkin" from the future race ideas |
01:34.08 | Bagginsww | due to game mechanic rules |
01:34.21 | Bagginsww | sure they could go the Undead Forsaken route and make them humanoid |
01:34.27 | Bagginsww | but that's unlikely |
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01:36.49 | Kirkburn | Dragonkin? |
01:37.11 | Kirkburn | Some could be made humanoid I do think |
01:38.03 | Lukian | Kirkburn, I agree |
01:39.18 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
01:39.22 | Bagginsww | but that's diffferent than humanoid |
01:39.31 | Bagginsww | pretty much immune to alot of the thigns of normal humanoids |
01:42.00 | Kirkburn | Is there's a removal section on dragonkin on the talk page? |
01:43.35 | Kirkburn | Woot, http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Article_Management_Tags now all use Ambox :) |
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01:44.18 | FIRE | ya guys those pictures were no help i already knew where to go but not EXACTLY where to go |
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01:47.41 | piu | what's the exact quest name |
01:48.40 | Bagginsww | kirkburn at times yes |
01:49.05 | Bagginsww | and we use the same arguement for "elementals" and other non humanoid races |
01:49.06 | FIRE | mirror lake |
01:49.23 | Bagginsww | I can see where garm was occusing people of being "hypocritical" |
01:50.38 | piu | you found the waterfall at the lake? |
01:53.14 | piu | [[Quest:Mirror Lake]] |
01:53.15 | [NewsBot] | piu meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Mirror_Lake |
02:07.07 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zakolj#Copyright_issues |
02:13.06 | FIRE | ya i found it but when i get there and use the bottle it says "needs mirror lake falls" or something |
02:13.49 | piu | did you jump in the water and get right under it? |
02:17.13 | FIRE | ? |
02:17.34 | FIRE | what do you mean by "right under it" |
02:17.56 | piu | like, jump in the water and stand right where the water is falling |
02:18.04 | Kirkburn | omfg, the things you find on the wiki - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Voting |
02:18.18 | Kirkburn | I didn't even know we had this crap :/ |
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02:25.52 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas |
02:25.59 | Bagginsww | god garm is an idiot |
02:26.17 | Bagginsww | sorry excuse me for taking the lord's name in vain :p |
02:26.28 | Bagginsww | He's showing his true colors |
02:26.37 | Bagginsww | that he's another one of those horde fanatics |
02:27.35 | Bagginsww | can we please make the page a locked page, with admin edits after peer discussion? :p |
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02:33.13 | Kirkburn | OMG VOTE: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Policy/Voting#Deletion_vote |
02:34.01 | piu | voting on voting? *head asplode* |
02:36.36 | Kirkburn | hehe |
02:36.42 | Kirkburn | It's a deletion vote, at least :P |
02:38.26 | FIRE | hey pui |
02:38.33 | FIRE | piu* |
02:38.40 | Kirkburn | I felt it would be a little extreme to use a vote vote to vote on the vote policy vote. |
02:38.54 | piu | sup? |
02:40.22 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Pandaren_not_part_of_alliance_.28TBC_Interviews.29 |
02:40.23 | Bagginsww | :p |
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02:41.53 | FIRE | its a pretty wide space and i cnat find the right place this is really getting to me |
02:42.14 | piu | I haven't done the quest, my mage is gnome not human |
02:42.31 | piu | but usually these quests have a certain place you can stand to use the item |
02:42.37 | piu | in the photo on the quest page |
02:42.44 | piu | [[Quest:Mirror Lake]] |
02:42.44 | [NewsBot] | piu meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Mirror_Lake |
02:43.12 | piu | on the far right, I see falls right by the rocks, you probably have to stand right there |
02:43.28 | piu | and right-click the flask item to fill it |
02:43.47 | piu | that's about all I can say, only a guess anyways |
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03:12.00 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Kirkburn.27s_wild_weekend |
03:13.57 | Kirkburn | Too wild for pcj, methinks |
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03:27.19 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Half-orc#What_Makes_a_Half-Orc.3F |
03:27.54 | Kirkburn | A penchant for spikiness |
03:28.07 | Kirkburn | Damn, I misread as fel orc |
03:30.20 | Bagginsww | LOL |
03:30.38 | Bagginsww | well I have no clue why it was in the half-orc article and it looks more like a troll, :p |
03:31.28 | Bagginsww | specifically a witch doctor |
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03:46.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | Night all |
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04:26.19 | Olison | Bibi: mind sharing your points->rating forumla with me? :> |
04:26.34 | Bibi | LOL NO |
04:26.35 | Bibi | SECRET |
04:26.45 | Bibi | (Ctrl + U and steal the source code, like everyone else :p) |
04:28.02 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: More season 3 information, rating calculator update - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1416.0 |
04:29.35 | Olison | ah there it is :D |
04:29.41 | Olison | ok, /me steals |
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04:59.29 | Olison | Bibi: maybe you can help me out, im not familiar with js math, what does the ,10 mean here? parseInt(Math.log((1511.26/(1639.28*points/coeff))-(1/1639.28))/(-0.00412),10) |
04:59.30 | Olison | :o |
05:02.32 | Bibi | didn't code it |
05:02.33 | Bibi | :D |
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05:09.52 | Olison | k ;( |
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06:48.42 | Bagginsww | Image:Teldrassilmovie.jpg |
06:48.50 | Bagginsww | ooh teldrassil that doesn't look like a stupm |
06:48.52 | Bagginsww | *stump |
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13:59.10 | Kirochi | hello there |
14:02.05 | Kirochi | I think this is the time for a new term to be introduced |
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14:06.48 | Kirochi | We have to distinguish Race and Species |
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14:31.55 | Taurmindo | ThraeBot: char eu the venture co ithildess |
14:31.58 | ThraeBot | Taurmindo: Ithildess, Level 70 Undead Priest (14/0/47). 7781 HP; 7350 Mana; 138 mana regen; 28 mp5; 136 spell crit; 134 spell hit; 950 +spell dmg/heal; 183 frost dmg (1133); 338 shadow dmg (1288); 4.90% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 996 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yue4wg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wq95n ][ Updated: Sun Sep 30 10:47:17 2007 EST ]] |
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14:53.28 | Foxbot | hi |
14:54.18 | foxlit | Different core stack, just checking that things generally work |
14:56.01 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Species |
14:58.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | Morning |
14:59.03 | Kirochi | morning |
14:59.28 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, betcha still haven't read my lecture |
14:59.35 | Kirkburn | umm |
15:04.36 | Kirkburn | We have Warcraft movie images?!? |
15:04.38 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Teldrassilmovie.jpg |
15:04.53 | Kirochi | merely one, methinks |
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15:05.18 | Kirochi | from the BlizzCon, supposedly |
15:05.27 | Kirkburn | Looks pretty cool though |
15:05.32 | Kirkburn | I missed that briefing >< |
15:06.45 | Kirochi | heh, looks like they had many meetings at the same time |
15:07.46 | Kirochi | http://media.movies.ign.com/media/826/826940/imgs_1.html |
15:08.06 | Kirochi | http://movies.ign.com/articles/810/810702p1.html |
15:16.13 | winkiller | how can I tell Foxbot to not process one item? and how do I add one? |
15:20.33 | Taurmindo | so, a messy tactic on a boss-page.. should it have stub/strategy + wikify banners? |
15:21.23 | foxlit | winkiller: that is not the foxbot you're looking for. |
15:21.55 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Recipe:_Flask_or_Chromatic_Wonder => or -> of |
15:22.08 | winkiller | so this one out of queue, and "of" in |
15:22.34 | winkiller | and it's been months since I used foxbot, I'm sorry :/ |
15:23.14 | foxlit | There is no real queue as such |
15:23.28 | foxlit | pcj just uses the template to generate a category which he then feeds to foxbot periodically |
15:23.39 | foxlit | In that case, tag it for speedydelete (typo) |
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15:23.55 | foxlit | Or move it to the correct page |
15:24.10 | winkiller | ah ok |
15:26.17 | piu | what's a good average sinister strike for a level 70 rogue? |
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15:34.01 | foxlit | !item Balanced Shadow Draenite, Blackrock Medallion, Blood of Amber, Cortello's Treasure |
15:34.01 | Foxbot | Okay, foxlit, queued Balanced Shadow Draenite, Blackrock Medallion, Blood of Amber, Cortello's Treasure. |
15:34.31 | foxlit | hrm |
15:34.34 | Lukian | waht's that do? |
15:36.12 | foxlit | !item Infused Shadow Draenite, Legion Missive, Magic Broom, Recipe: Flask of Chromatic Wonder |
15:36.13 | Foxbot | Okay, foxlit, queued Infused Shadow Draenite, Legion Missive, Magic Broom, Recipe: Flask of Chromatic Wonder. |
15:36.28 | foxlit | Imports item pages to the wiki |
15:36.55 | foxlit | New stub tags clash with item tooltips in safari |
15:37.28 | foxlit | And firefox. |
15:37.46 | foxlit | Kirkburn: ping. |
15:38.01 | AFKDuTempete | clash how? |
15:38.08 | Lukian | brb |
15:38.25 | foxlit | Text gets superimposed on top of both of their backgrounds rather than wrapping |
15:38.34 | Kirkburn | Link? |
15:38.42 | AFKDuTempete | text from which? |
15:38.48 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Infused_Shadow_Draenite |
15:39.16 | AFKDuTempete | I see no problems, foxlit |
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15:39.39 | AFKDuTempete | I think your mac sucks. Stop using it. |
15:40.21 | Kirkburn | Tooltip needs to be turned into a table, I think |
15:40.53 | foxlit | Er |
15:41.04 | Kirkburn | It's a div |
15:41.04 | foxlit | The reverse, imo |
15:41.21 | foxlit | It's also firefox in win32 |
15:41.34 | Kirkburn | You want me to turn the stubs into div? >_> |
15:41.39 | AFKDuTempete | lol |
15:42.35 | foxlit | Perhaps not. |
15:42.41 | foxlit | I assumed they were divs as well |
15:42.59 | Kirkburn | It's worse on IE :P |
15:43.07 | foxlit | IE wraps, so it at least looks decent |
15:43.12 | Kirkburn | haha |
15:43.14 | foxlit | Hover tooltips don't work on IE7, iirc |
15:43.33 | Kirkburn | They do |
15:43.46 | foxlit | Didn't Mikk fix this earlier? |
15:43.51 | piu | how does the tooltip hover code find the tooltip portion of a page? |
15:44.09 | foxlit | Ask it :) |
15:44.09 | Kirkburn | Ask pcj |
15:44.15 | Kirkburn | Mikk fix what? |
15:44.48 | foxlit | Bands clashing with hovering elements |
15:45.05 | Kirkburn | Via crazy code, yes |
15:45.07 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Infoline |
15:45.10 | Kirkburn | But it shouldn't be needed |
15:45.38 | foxlit | It's not rendering properly in virtually 100% of common user agents |
15:45.56 | foxlit | IE wraps, firefox and safari compromise readability. |
15:47.02 | Kirkburn | Thus my guidelines on WW:MOS |
15:47.14 | Kirkburn | They should be placed at the top of an article where possible |
15:47.41 | foxlit | They referring to? |
15:47.42 | Kirkburn | The idea isn't for the stubs to be as wide as possible, they're supposed to be 80% width |
15:47.51 | Kirkburn | Article management tags, stubs, etc |
15:48.08 | foxlit | max-width |
15:48.51 | foxlit | Doesn't really help with section-stubs |
15:48.55 | Kirkburn | Indeed :P |
15:49.28 | Kirkburn | Tbh, for that article, the whole article is a stub, not just the source |
15:50.23 | foxlit | Doesn't really matter. |
15:50.25 | Kirkburn | What could be possible is to have the main AM tag at the top, and have a smaller generic stub text to mark out the missing sections |
15:51.11 | foxlit | It's much easier to fix am tag code to work anywhere, rather than moving text around to accomodate technical issues |
15:52.15 | Kirkburn | This is how article management tags are supposed to appear - http://www.wowwiki.com/Infused_Shadow_Draenite |
15:56.14 | Kirkburn | Why am I not seeing the overlap on here? http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev4 |
15:58.56 | foxlit | Cause the table is not an ambox |
16:00.45 | Kirkburn | Aha |
16:04.15 | Kirkburn | Somewhat confusing, since it's now a problem, but I didn't actually change the design ... |
16:05.35 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: M A.G.E. - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/30/wow-moviewatch-m-a-g-e/ |
16:08.22 | foxlit | Your first table has a slight error |
16:08.35 | foxlit | style="...;width:80% ;" |
16:09.05 | foxlit | If you do it that way, width gets ignored |
16:09.14 | foxlit | So it just resizes the table sanely. |
16:09.42 | foxlit | If width: 80%; is in there, div is forced to 80% of container width. Container in this case is the page, and 80% of that gets you right into the tooltip. |
16:09.52 | foxlit | (or, rather, the content div) |
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16:10.40 | foxlit | In short, http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/Dev4&oldid=900531 doesn't overlap because you made a slight typo |
16:11.01 | foxlit | It also doesn't behave like you want to - divs take up 100% of available space rather than 80%. |
16:11.53 | Kirkburn | aha |
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16:18.34 | Kirkburn | foxlit, I still say they should be page headers |
16:18.48 | Kirkburn | As per http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev2 |
16:19.29 | foxlit | Moving those items into the page title itself would be more interesting |
16:19.51 | Kirkburn | How do you mean? |
16:20.24 | foxlit | Take a 32x32 icon for every state, and add it to the <h1>User:Kirkburn/Dev2<> |
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16:20.43 | foxlit | Sort of like the wikipedia button |
16:20.44 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft |
16:21.03 | Kirkburn | The problem there is that it wouldn't be noticeable enough |
16:21.31 | foxlit | Does it really need to be? |
16:21.44 | foxlit | (what's with the no-links links on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Patches ) |
16:23.10 | Kirkburn | Patches we don't have notes for |
16:23.24 | Kirkburn | They existed, but not for the US or EU |
16:23.51 | foxlit | Oh? |
16:23.54 | Kirkburn | hmm, actually, I should remove 2.2.1 |
16:24.38 | foxlit | It's a navbox. |
16:25.20 | Kirkburn | I know, but they are patches that exist |
16:25.28 | foxlit | It should either be a broken link, or it shouldn't be there at all, depending on whether we want to archive korean/chinese patchnotes |
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16:27.09 | Kirkburn | They wouldn't be in english :P |
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16:29.15 | Kirkburn | Give a man a fish and he'll eat it for lunch. Teach a man to fish, and he'll destroy your ecosystem. |
16:41.17 | AFKDuTempete | lol |
16:41.42 | AFKDuTempete | Anywho, really afk, now. Moving to laptop in the living room, and I'm too lazy to log into IRC, there. |
16:42.09 | AFKDuTempete | Plus, I have work to do, and you people are a horrible distraction. :P |
16:42.15 | AFKDuTempete | <insert dog smiley> Kirkburn. |
16:42.32 | Kirkburn | !jobqueue, AFKDuTempete |
16:42.43 | Kirkburn | Also, woof |
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16:45.57 | Kirkburn | It takes sooooo loooong |
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17:37.46 | Lukian | This is madness! |
17:39.57 | Sky2042 | NO! THIS IS SPAAAAAAAAAAAAARTA! |
17:41.41 | Sky2042 | wtf. they removed detect magic |
17:41.43 | Sky2042 | i r sad |
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17:45.51 | Lukian | yeah I saw that a few days ago |
17:46.14 | Lukian | blizz are like , ok you can take all warlocks with you now |
17:46.44 | Sky2042 | lol, nah. i actually used it to mark shep |
17:46.46 | Sky2042 | :( |
17:46.56 | Lukian | oh nice |
17:48.31 | Sky2042 | or i sometimes used it as a hunter's mark |
17:48.42 | Lukian | being immune to daze effects in skettis is sooo good :D |
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17:50.45 | Jiyambi | hullo people |
17:54.18 | Sky2042 | ullo. |
17:56.38 | Jiyambi | Sky did you see Clyde Jr.'s suggestion in the village pump? |
17:57.57 | Bibi` | Fisker- |
17:58.00 | Bibi` | you be here ? |
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17:58.08 | Sky2042 | i did, and his suggestion is good, but I can't condone Cynra's. the way wikipedia does their projects makes me sick. xD |
17:59.13 | Jiyambi | Well, I would agree there, though we could steal elements of it |
17:59.24 | Jiyambi | they also just have a billion more projects than we would :P |
17:59.53 | Jiyambi | I think a category page is a possible solution though, it would make the list easy to keep updated |
18:00.20 | Bibi | bah Fisker- is no be here :( |
18:00.23 | Bibi | and Adys|sleep either :( |
18:00.28 | Bibi | i've got no friends ! |
18:02.21 | Sky2042 | bibi: fisker- is in #wowhead |
18:02.38 | Sky2042 | well, i killed him there, so he might not be, but oh well. |
18:02.39 | Sky2042 | :D |
18:09.11 | Jiyambi | Sky2042: any ideas on how we could create a project page? |
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18:12.14 | Jiyambi | hmmmmmm |
18:13.44 | Jiyambi | You talking about the to do in the community portal, or the category to do? |
18:15.37 | Sky2042 | both |
18:16.47 | Jiyambi | Hmmm, I don't see why we couldn't either A: create a subcategory for projects or B: just add projects to the To Do category themselves. I think I favor the subcategory, but I am seeing if any of the pages there already serve this purpose |
18:24.24 | Sky2042 | coll of week? |
18:26.30 | Jiyambi | [[WoWWiki:Community Portal/Collaborations/COTW]] |
18:26.31 | [NewsBot] | Jiyambi meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Community_Portal/Collaborations/COTW |
18:27.13 | Jiyambi | hasn't been updated in over a year.... |
18:27.42 | piu | rename to collaboration of the year! |
18:27.47 | Jiyambi | hehe |
18:28.14 | Jiyambi | The info on the page is still useful, perhaps it could be added to the project page if we get it up and running |
18:28.44 | piu | yeah, speaking of projects |
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18:29.53 | Sky2042 | jiyambi: hmm |
18:30.09 | Sky2042 | i can prolly fiddle with all of this. |
18:30.26 | piu | anyone have ideas on a centralized "project" area? |
18:30.39 | piu | or is that what you're talking about now and I just logged in mid-convo |
18:30.42 | Jiyambi | yuppers |
18:30.54 | Sky2042 | piu: yup |
18:31.08 | piu | well, I support the idea if it means anything |
18:31.14 | Jiyambi | We were thinking perhaps as a subcategory of the to do category, or maybe just making projects categorized under to do.... |
18:31.26 | piu | I know about DT's warlock project only because I saw it on the VP long ago |
18:31.35 | Sky2042 | jiyambi: could prolly just get rid of that page and move WoWWiki:CP/Collaborations to WoWWiki:Wikiprojects or something like that |
18:32.35 | Jiyambi | Hmmm, why not just WoWWiki:Projects? |
18:32.40 | Jiyambi | grrrrr |
18:33.02 | Jiyambi | did your chat put a smiley in the middle of that? cause mine did..... |
18:33.16 | piu | not mine |
18:33.37 | piu | Wowwiki <colon> Projects |
18:33.42 | Jiyambi | hehe |
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18:33.52 | Jiyambi | okay good *glares at pidgin* |
18:34.28 | Sky2042 | Jiyambi: lol, no, mine didn't either. you could use ww:projects if you want to. |
18:34.37 | Sky2042 | wikiprojects or proects, no matter |
18:35.00 | Jiyambi | okies, I personally would just prefer "projects" to "wikiprojets", since it is simpler |
18:35.27 | piu | [[WoWWiki:Projects]] for the general project guidelines? |
18:35.27 | [NewsBot] | piu meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Projects |
18:35.53 | Sky2042 | the list also, i think |
18:35.59 | piu | individual projects called [[WoWWiki:Project Mage]] ? |
18:36.42 | Jiyambi | The list could be in category form, I think that would be easiest for updating purposes |
18:36.51 | Sky2042 | piu: ew! |
18:37.11 | piu | you probably want: [[WoWWiki:Mage Project]] |
18:37.25 | Jiyambi | Do the individual projects need to be in the WoWWiki namespace? |
18:37.26 | Sky2042 | Mage project, maybe |
18:37.29 | Jiyambi | hehe |
18:37.31 | Sky2042 | Jiyambi: yes |
18:37.34 | Jiyambi | kk |
18:37.37 | piu | well, wikipedia uses WikiProject |
18:37.38 | Sky2042 | they aren't part of the content |
18:37.50 | piu | and all projects follow WikiProject X |
18:37.56 | Sky2042 | piu: yes, but that's what i hate. |
18:38.13 | piu | it offends your delicate sensibilities? |
18:38.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Careful about making too many pages |
18:38.44 | Kirkburn | One page would probably be enough, tbh, with the talk page working out the details |
18:38.52 | Sky2042 | ^ |
18:38.53 | piu | I have several projects I'd like to start and/or contribute |
18:38.56 | Sky2042 | ty kirkburn |
18:39.16 | Jiyambi | Hmmmm, It seems it could get very cluttered if there are not serparate pages for each project though.... |
18:39.31 | Jiyambi | um serperate = separate |
18:39.33 | Kirkburn | Best to start small, I reckon |
18:39.35 | piu | Yeah, you kinda need a seperate page for each project |
18:39.42 | Kirkburn | We don't know how popular it'd be until it's started |
18:39.55 | Sky2042 | ww:proj/name, maybe |
18:39.57 | piu | with deletion criteria if it is created but left stagnant for too long |
18:40.01 | Kirkburn | If you make too much at once, it doesn't get used |
18:40.32 | Jiyambi | True.... Okay some projects are simple anyways. How about, if it's a more complicated project it gets a separate page, and a summary on the main page with a link. |
18:40.42 | Kirkburn | Indeedy |
18:40.43 | Jiyambi | But most are just described on the main page |
18:40.50 | Jiyambi | I'm good with that |
18:40.54 | Kirkburn | e.g. the darktable project doesn't need it's own page |
18:40.58 | Kirkburn | *its |
18:41.08 | Jiyambi | kk |
18:41.10 | piu | something like a Lore Project might get it's own page, that's a huge cross-section of the wiki |
18:41.25 | Kirkburn | It could replace the Community Portal, tbh |
18:41.45 | Jiyambi | hmmmm, i dunno - It could definitely have a link there at least |
18:41.57 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: com-p needs redoing with css colors :| |
18:42.04 | Kirkburn | It sure does |
18:42.22 | Kirkburn | Needs a complete revamp, really |
18:42.29 | Kirkburn | It's been on my todo for aages |
18:42.37 | Kirkburn | I'll try and take a look at it soon |
18:42.42 | Jiyambi | coolness |
18:43.00 | Kirkburn | part of the reason is all the subpages :/ |
18:43.46 | Jiyambi | oy, my boyfriend is cleaning house and its making me feel guilty, i better go help out |
18:43.58 | Jiyambi | I will talk to you people laters :) |
18:44.18 | Kirkburn | toodles :) |
18:44.30 | Sky2042_afk | i must also be leaving thee |
18:44.33 | Sky2042_afk | werk! |
18:44.34 | Kirkburn | It is a woman's job, after all :P |
18:44.39 | Sky2042_afk | ouch |
18:44.39 | piu | anything related to starting up proper projects probably needs a pass on the village pump |
18:44.42 | Sky2042_afk | that was harsh! |
18:45.17 | Kirkburn | PC should arrive 2moro |
18:45.49 | Bagginsww | gg it annoys me to no end how garm keep son adding thigns or changing things in future race ideas without any consensus being formed in the talk pages |
18:45.54 | Bagginsww | like he is the one man consensus |
18:47.14 | Sky2042_afk | kirkburn: if it isn't alread ythere, could we get something like "no fanfic" for ww:fa? |
18:47.17 | Sky2042_afk | :/ |
18:47.22 | Sky2042_afk | :| |
18:47.37 | Kirkburn | Add it :) |
18:47.56 | Sky2042_afk | mk... will do |
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18:49.06 | Kirkburn | I had been meaning to do it |
18:49.38 | Sky2042_afk | i'll go do it when i get home, prolly |
18:49.42 | Teomyr | hi |
18:49.56 | Sky2042_afk | hi? |
18:49.59 | Sky2042_afk | hi! |
18:50.42 | Kirkburn | Hey Teo |
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18:53.46 | Bagginsww | no one ever reads the heading of future race ideas or follows it :p |
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18:57.24 | Kirkburn | :( |
19:00.24 | Bagginsww | I'd like to add a new caveate to it, if you don't follow these rules you will be warned, if you continue to not follow it you will be given a suspension :p |
19:01.16 | Bagginsww | we already have the not as blunt warning about it things should not be allowed to become a battleground of clashing ideas. |
19:01.19 | Bagginsww | in reference to edit wars |
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19:03.10 | Fisker- | almost 1337 |
19:03.15 | Fisker- | btw i hate you Kirkburn |
19:04.18 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, I have an idea to help with that |
19:04.33 | Kirkburn | Just going shopping now, but will look when I'm back |
19:06.15 | Bagginsww | I'm going to add one minor addition to the intro, still on the non-blunt side |
19:09.37 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoR previews Zul'Aman - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/30/wor-previews-zulaman/ |
19:09.49 | Fisker- | NO |
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19:10.00 | Fisker- | we need a filter on WoR, Wolrdofraids etc. |
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19:17.24 | Dotted | ownt Fisker- |
19:18.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Future_race_ideas/Intro |
19:18.32 | Bagginsww | a few changes |
19:20.23 | Fisker- | TF2 tiem |
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19:45.13 | Bagginsww | i made a few more changes kirkburn, your welcome to modify it or implement whatever your idea was instead if you think it will work better. |
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19:52.10 | Kirkburn | Much fun :P |
19:54.03 | Teomyr | hehe |
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19:55.02 | Jiyambi | Boo |
19:58.10 | Fisker- | oh hi Kirkburn |
20:00.07 | Bibi | oh I see, Fisker- will talk to ops but not to me |
20:00.10 | Bibi | bitch. |
20:00.18 | Bagginsww | so kirkburn can I give garm and sandwichman a warning for the edit war they commited earlier... At least to be unbiased :p |
20:00.36 | Bibi | [21:07:26] <Fisker-> we need a filter on WoR, Wolrdofraids etc. |
20:00.46 | Bibi | Got a funny story about WoR today. :D |
20:00.51 | Bagginsww | although to be honest I feel sandwich and others who edited were fair |
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20:01.14 | Bibi | It seems that the same IP was used to register 3 accounts to advertise worldofraids/try to create a drama with curse/say that my site sucks. |
20:01.23 | Fisker- | :O |
20:01.24 | Fisker- | nice |
20:01.24 | Bibi | Of course, we don't know whose ip it is. |
20:01.57 | Fisker- | was it from france? :P |
20:02.00 | Bagginsww | as garm was ignorning olicy we mentioned in the race ideas intro. |
20:02.04 | Bagginsww | :the policy |
20:02.14 | Bibi | Fisker- : yes ! |
20:02.31 | Fisker- | What a surprise! |
20:02.39 | Fisker- | I think it was you! |
20:02.44 | Fisker- | 111 |
20:02.47 | Fisker- | !11 |
20:02.56 | Bibi | not my provider |
20:02.58 | Fisker- | You did it for the insurance money |
20:03.02 | Bibi | I know a webmaster with this provider though. |
20:03.41 | Fisker- | Admit it! |
20:03.46 | Fisker- | You did it for the insurance |
20:05.07 | Fisker- | gonna sleep now though |
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20:13.36 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas/Intro |
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20:37.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Garm |
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20:45.11 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, pour toi - http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Essay |
20:45.17 | Bagginsww | nice |
20:45.18 | Bagginsww | thanks |
20:45.41 | Kirkburn | Added to both rumoured races things |
20:45.50 | Bagginsww | thanks |
20:46.24 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Garm |
20:46.33 | Bagginsww | I warned sandwhich too, just to be fair |
20:47.52 | Bagginsww | although Garm has two points to be warned against :p |
20:50.24 | pcj | Added a more technical way to disable the tooltips which seems to at least work |
20:52.42 | Bagginsww | kirkburn we should leave the WW: and WoWWiki: headings for only official stuff? |
20:52.53 | Bagginsww | policy |
20:52.57 | Bagginsww | I mean policy |
20:53.00 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Don%27t_bite_the_noobs |
20:53.03 | Kirkburn | Depends |
20:53.13 | Bagginsww | ahh |
20:53.22 | Kirkburn | Don't bite the noobs is referred to by policy |
20:53.32 | Kirkburn | Whereas the rumoured races concerns a specific article |
20:53.32 | Bagginsww | ahh |
20:53.36 | Kirkburn | :) |
20:53.40 | Kirkburn | Nice and unclear :P |
20:53.40 | Bagginsww | ok that makes sense |
20:53.50 | Bagginsww | we may have to explain that somwhere :p |
20:54.23 | Kirkburn | If it was made more "official" then I would suggest it for the WW namespace |
20:55.25 | Bagginsww | heh |
20:58.04 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #110:Escort - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/110.html |
20:59.41 | Fisker- | any noobs here? |
20:59.43 | Fisker- | I wanna bite them |
21:04.19 | foxlit | that page breaks scrolling |
21:04.52 | Keolah | Ooh, ooh, bite me! Bite me! |
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21:07.40 | mulesh | looking for help with a fauxdropdown scrolling frame |
21:08.59 | Keolah | LFG for BBQ from KFC? :) |
21:10.12 | pcj | tank lfg bbq |
21:11.01 | Adys | Bibi: did you call me? |
21:11.36 | Bagginsww | what's the crossout command? |
21:12.19 | piu | <strike> |
21:12.21 | piu | I think |
21:13.33 | Bagginsww | thanks |
21:17.37 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Kael'thas bugged, hotfix not incoming - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/30/kaelthas-bugged-hotfix-not-incoming/ |
21:19.51 | Kirkburn | Updated intro on http://www.wowwiki.com/Future_race_ideas |
21:21.01 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
21:21.08 | Polarina | Does any item that can fit into the keyring have a durability count? |
21:21.30 | Kirkburn | nope |
21:22.26 | Polarina | Thanks. |
21:25.39 | Fisker- | i cannot sleep Bibi |
21:25.41 | Fisker- | your fault |
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21:55.59 | pcj | !wwstats |
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22:01.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Vykrul |
22:01.49 | Bagginsww | :p |
22:04.25 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
22:04.41 | Bagginsww | the link on that manual site seems to be down |
22:04.55 | bleeter | Bagginsww: what do you reckon the chances of getting a http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_QQ and http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_STFU are? |
22:04.58 | Bagginsww | also is tehre a pdf for TBC manual? |
22:05.13 | Bagginsww | LOL, not very likely? |
22:05.19 | bleeter | :( |
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22:15.55 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: IGN - World of Warcraft Collectibles Preview - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1741 |
22:16.11 | bleeter | Bagginsww: ok, well how about http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Not_be_an_annoying_noob |
22:16.21 | Bagginsww | LOL |
22:16.32 | Bagginsww | as an addition to How not to bite the noob |
22:17.22 | bleeter | more the flip side of that article |
22:18.21 | bleeter | if there even is such a beast.. I can't find it.. meh |
22:18.24 | bleeter | coffee!!! |
22:28.27 | Bagginsww | so ya did you know reincarnation exists in warcraft/ |
22:28.29 | Bagginsww | ? |
22:28.40 | Bagginsww | and iit can turn someone into some other race LOL |
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22:39.19 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Reincarnate |
22:39.21 | Bagginsww | lol |
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23:13.45 | Kirkburn | Sky2042_afk, others - Community Portal revamp in progress - http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3 ... edit as you wish! |
23:16.49 | piu | should we start up a wowwiki projects proposal somewhere? |
23:16.59 | piu | like say at WoWWiki:Projects |
23:19.57 | Kirkburn | can do |
23:20.15 | piu | projects might be the best way to get new visitors involved editing |
23:20.36 | piu | they can jump right to a project where they have interest or expertise |
23:20.58 | piu | rather than nebulous "fix stubs" or other stuff up there |
23:22.54 | Kirkburn | indeed |
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23:27.30 | piu | any theory crafters around? |
23:27.45 | piu | read [[Resilience]] and tell me if I'm off my rocker |
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23:36.02 | bleeter | piu: do I have to read that before saying you're off you're rocker? :( |
23:36.14 | piu | well |
23:36.37 | piu | I could be off my rocker anyways, but does the article make it more or less evident |
23:37.20 | foxlit | Wasn't the way crit damage increasing mechanics and resilience interact changed in 2.2? |
23:37.27 | pcj | Yes |
23:37.46 | foxlit | i.e. you no longer lose double the crit damage due to pre-coefficient application? |
23:38.07 | foxlit | "Corrected the damage modifier calculation for Resilience when the attacker has bonus critical strike damage." |
23:38.26 | piu | hmmm |
23:38.36 | piu | not sure how to interpret that |
23:39.27 | piu | my equation is based on my own interpretation of the effect, does that patch change it? |
23:41.06 | foxlit | Maybe |
23:41.12 | foxlit | Maybe not |
23:41.40 | foxlit | Check if the values you predict match what you get on live realms? |
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23:41.52 | piu | account expired (!!) |
23:42.12 | piu | looking now for anyone else who has tested and posted |
23:51.10 | Bagginsww | kirkburn we should have a fancy intro for the future race ideas talk page |
23:51.44 | Bagginsww | basically same kind of thing but, "how to submit an idea" information in the talk page |
23:52.00 | Bagginsww | and the warning not to edit the main page |
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23:54.07 | Kirkburn | Something very similar to the front page intro might work |