irclog2html for #wowwiki on 20061230

`00:02.35`	`TranceEmotion`	`lol`
`00:02.59`	`Hobinheim`	`kirk`
`00:03.16`	`Kirkburn`	`yo`
`00:03.40`	`Hobinheim`	`what do you think of the broken being changed to broken draenei`
`00:04.00`	`Hobinheim`	`my rationale was that broken needn't be namespaced with draenei since nothing else in the game is named broken`
`00:04.06`	`Hobinheim`	`the article title, i'm talking about`
`00:04.31`	`Hobinheim`	`or lost ones becoming draenei lost ones`
`00:04.52`	`Kirkburn`	`Hmm, they're called the Broken`
`00:05.15`	`Kirkburn`	`Same goes for the lost ones, it's their species name`
`00:06.17`	`Hobinheim`	`but do we really need the title of the article to be "Broken draenei" and "Draenei Lost Ones"?`
`00:08.02`	`Kirkburn`	`Good question`
`00:08.02`	`Hobinheim`	`i disagreed with baggins on it and he gave me some weird answer that didn't really get to what i was saying`
`00:08.02`	`Hobinheim`	`zomg i got one piece of work done today`
`00:08.02`	`Hobinheim`	`i feel like celebrating`
`00:09.05`	`Kirkburn`	`hehe`
`00:09.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Bah, he gives a reasonable reason for keeping draenei in the name`
`00:09.33`	`Kirkburn`	`They are draenei, just mutated`
`00:10.28`	`Hobinheim`	`bah you sound like baggins`
`00:10.31`	`Hobinheim`	`bah with you!`
`00:13.02`	`*** join/#wowwiki MentalPower (n=chatzill@host-70-45-83-207.onelinkpr.net)`
`00:13.19`	`[Zeal]`	`The Broken is a faction tbh, not a race. But all members of the Broken are indeed Draenei that are corrupted at the same level.`
`00:13.53`	`[Zeal]`	`same goes for lost ones`
`00:15.52`	`[Zeal]`	`there was probably revelations about it in RotH, so i'd want ragestorm's input`
`00:17.25`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`00:17.44`	`Kirkburn`	`Yeah, the Broken and Lost Ones are factions =)`
`00:18.56`	`[Zeal]`	`the races are more "Draenei that look like broken" and "Draenei that look like Lost Ones" :p`
`00:19.37`	`[Zeal]`	`"Eredar that are now Draenei" and "Eredar that now serve the Legion"`
`00:20.10`	`[Zeal]`	`though i think it's safe to assume Draenei are the same as a normal Eredar would have been`
`00:20.36`	`[Zeal]`	`(Yet another reason i hate that we used the term "races" for the "player races"`
`00:20.48`	`[Zeal]`	`because some are really factions..`
`00:22.11`	`Hobinheim`	`buhh....`
`00:22.23`	`[Zeal]`	`Forsaken, Draenei etc. Well in reality all the playable races are actually races within playable factions.`
`00:22.43`	`Kirkburn`	`heehee`
`00:22.48`	`[Zeal]`	`Hence using Undead instead of Forsaken. and Eredar should be used instead of Draenei.`
`00:23.08`	`[Zeal]`	`sorry.. ranting now.. :P`
`00:25.12`	`Kirkburn`	`brb`
`00:26.25`	`Hobinheim`	`ugh i finished one of my really easy assignments...`
`00:26.30`	`Hobinheim`	`now i'm on something complex and retarded =(`
`00:26.57`	`Teomyr`	`like me... i'm writing a WDB parser in PHP`
`00:27.04`	`*** join/#wowwiki MentalPower (n=chatzill@host-70-45-83-207.onelinkpr.net)`
`00:27.16`	`Hobinheim`	`hey cool, i was trying to write one in perl the other night`
`00:27.32`	`*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net)`
`00:27.33`	`Hobinheim`	`i was too hung up on the different methods of parsing to get it actually done =(`
`00:27.41`	`Teomyr`	`hehe`
`00:27.45`	`[Zeal]`	`And really, Blood Elves are merely a faction of High Elves >_>`
`00:28.33`	`[Zeal]`	`who wants eagle stats? pfft`
`00:28.53`	`tekkub1`	`yummy`
`00:29.01`	`tekkub1`	`pommegranite martini`
`00:30.43`	`[Zeal]`	`:p`
`00:31.41`	`Kirkburn`	`Teomyr, I got 1,000 hits from the WoWInsider article :O`
`00:32.13`	`Teomyr`	`oO`
`00:32.27`	`Teomyr`	`nice`
`00:32.32`	`[Zeal]`	`lol`
`00:32.34`	`Teomyr`	`that is, bad for your traffic bill`
`00:33.01`	`Kirkburn`	`48,768 hits so far in December :P`
`00:33.18`	`Kirkburn`	`November: 14,815`
`00:34.20`	`Hobinheim`	`?`
`00:34.24`	`Hobinheim`	`what's this?`
`00:34.59`	`tekkub1`	`hey! feature one of mine!`
`00:35.39`	`tekkub1`	`TheBigPicture and TheLowDown :)`
`00:35.52`	`tekkub1`	`they kinda go together`
`00:36.10`	`phreaky`	`Do TheLowDown work good with Prat?`
`00:36.16`	`phreaky`	`Havent tried it in a while, got a lot of errors last time`
`00:36.49`	`phreaky`	`What's thebigpicture btw ? :) Don't see it on wowace`
`00:38.51`	`tekkub1`	`wowi`
`00:39.06`	`tekkub1`	`prat's... ugh`
`00:39.08`	`sylvanaar`	`TheLowDown is built into prat`
`00:39.15`	`tekkub1`	`dunno what's up with it lately`
`00:39.24`	`phreaky`	`is it build into prat? Oo`
`00:39.36`	`Kirkburn`	`Prat is awesome :D`
`00:39.53`	`sylvanaar`	`i thought that you asked me to do that tek`
`00:40.05`	`tekkub1`	`^^`
`00:40.12`	`phreaky`	`i miss ConsoleMage so much =(`
`00:40.20`	`tekkub1`	`I still want featured and those are the best ones I got updated right now`
`00:40.24`	`phreaky`	`or, well.. missed.. stoped playing my mage :)`
`00:40.50`	`Kirkburn`	`Send an anonymous tip, tekk :P`
`00:41.05`	`Kirkburn`	`(no, I did not do that!)`
`00:42.02`	`sylvanaar`	`[02:27] <Tekkub> prat need to absorb TheLowDown ^^`
`00:42.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Is this viewable? https://admin.1and1.co.uk/imgsrv/sq27.schlund.de/grafikserver/chart_RZWzrKwTKRkAAAr6Bb0.png`
`00:42.15`	`sylvanaar`	`im not going crazy at least`
`00:42.25`	`foxlit`	`yes`
`00:42.29`	`[Zeal]`	`Teomyr, how was it to setup the wiki to match wowwiki?`
`00:42.39`	`Kirkburn`	`foxlit, if so, then that's my hit counter :)`
`00:42.44`	`[Zeal]`	`actualy screw that, i don't have PHP5 >_o`
`00:43.01`	`foxlit`	`hit or visitor?`
`00:43.05`	`phreaky`	`Any1 know if there is an addon out there that got an ignore-word-list? Like you can add words to a list and then it ignores all whispers etc that includes that word?`
`00:43.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Unique Visits`
`00:43.22`	`foxlit`	`phreaky: probably better off asking in #wowi-lounge`
`00:43.49`	`phreaky`	`I've asked there, i thought someone here might know anything :)`
`00:44.07`	`phreaky`	`I wish i got the knowledge to do it myself :)`
`00:44.09`	`Kirkburn`	`This is my page views :P https://admin.1and1.co.uk/imgsrv/sq27.schlund.de/grafikserver/chart_RZW2RqwTKRkAAAr4BVk.png`
`00:44.15`	`foxlit`	`My visists chart is slowly going downwards :/`
`00:44.43`	`Kirkburn`	`:(`
`00:44.45`	`Kirkburn`	`To where?`
`00:44.47`	`foxlit`	`101412 so far this month, was like 170k in June`
`00:45.46`	`Kirkburn`	`Aand, the site it?`
`00:45.48`	`Kirkburn`	`*is?`
`00:45.51`	`foxlit`	`It's a game guide completely unrelated to wow.`
`00:46.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Still, that's a lotta hits`
`00:46.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Broswer (sic) wars! https://admin.1and1.co.uk/imgsrv/sq27.schlund.de/grafikserver/chart_RZW2mqwTKRkAAAr5BaE.png`
`00:46.56`	`Kirkburn`	`(it was misspelt on the website)`
`00:46.58`	`[Zeal]`	`doesn't work for me :/`
`00:47.06`	`foxlit`	`That seems awfully skewed for firefox`
`00:47.15`	`Kirkburn`	`[Zeal], what broswer?`
`00:47.29`	`Kirkburn`	`Yes, massively skewed`
`00:47.43`	`foxlit`	`71.5 % IE varients, 24.3% firefox variants for me.`
`00:47.54`	`Kirkburn`	`That was over december`
`00:48.01`	`[Zeal]`	`Avant (IE7). it attempts to download it, as IE refuses to display png's when linked.`
`00:48.10`	`[Zeal]`	`but the download fails`
`00:48.17`	`Kirkburn`	`[Zeal], strange`
`00:48.27`	`Kirkburn`	`My IE7 has no problem I don't hink`
`00:48.33`	`[Zeal]`	`weird`
`00:48.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah try this`
`00:48.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Copy the link, then paste it`
`00:48.54`	`[Zeal]`	`\o/`
`00:49.03`	`Kirkburn`	`Odd, innit`
`00:49.11`	`[Zeal]`	`why are people still using IE6 >_<`
`00:49.41`	`foxlit`	`IE7 is a pushed through WGA`
`00:49.54`	`[Zeal]`	`hm?`
`00:49.54`	`Hobinheim`	`windows genuine advantage?`
`00:49.58`	`foxlit`	`Yes.`
`00:50.02`	`[Zeal]`	`true true`
`00:50.07`	`Kirkburn`	`i.e. pirates can't use it easily`
`00:50.12`	`[Zeal]`	`in which case i say "die you free loaders"`
`00:50.32`	`Hobinheim`	`i already paid microsoft twice for new xp discs to get that silly free loaders guilt trip shit off my computer`
`00:50.33`	`Kirkburn`	`You meant it is protected by WGA, but pushed via Windows Update (and slowly)`
`00:50.50`	`Kirkburn`	`They're not pushing IE7 out to everyone at once`
`00:50.56`	`Kirkburn`	`Thus the slow take-up`
`00:50.58`	`foxlit`	`(to be honest, I have yet to see an illegal version of windows complaining about WGA)`
`00:50.59`	`[Zeal]`	`no, i downloaded mine from the microsoft site. never got a windows update for it. : /`
`00:51.04`	`Hobinheim`	`windows update is sorta like patch day for blizz, only... patches are required by a certain day`
`00:51.25`	`Hobinheim`	`no, ever since that one push for wga, every non-legit version of windows i've seen has had it`
`00:51.29`	`foxlit`	`Regardless, if you fail a WGA check, you can't install.`
`00:51.30`	`Kirkburn`	`Next up....`
`00:51.34`	`Kirkburn`	`OS wars! https://admin.1and1.co.uk/imgsrv/sq27.schlund.de/grafikserver/chart_RZW3NKwTKRkAAAr4BVs.png`
`00:51.40`	`foxlit`	`98.2% windows`
`00:51.44`	`Hobinheim`	`you could also argue that really good non-legit versions of windows would be technically legit (volume licensing)`
`00:52.09`	`Kirkburn`	`96.18 for me`
`00:52.15`	`[Zeal]`	`i won't be updating to ff 2.0 until ff 1.5 tells me too.. second time they've redon the browser and left the auto-updater in the dark. if you're gunna have an auto-updater on your application, make sure it fucks works.. >_<`
`00:52.26`	`Kirkburn`	`It's on purpose`
`00:52.43`	`Kirkburn`	`To prevent massive bandwidth overuse`
`00:52.46`	`Teomyr`	`hmm. my firefox updater is very persuasive`
`00:52.52`	`[Zeal]`	`redone fucking`
`00:52.58`	`foxlit`	`My firefox updater didn't ask me the first time it updated something.`
`00:53.07`	`Teomyr`	`as soon as an update is available... "update has been downloaded, will be installed on restart"`
`00:53.08`	`foxlit`	`"Yo, I got an update; Click to restart."`
`00:53.09`	`Kirkburn`	`FF1.5 to FF2.0 was bugger all though`
`00:53.30`	`Hobinheim`	`supposedly... 1.5 is supposed to auto update to 2.0`
`00:53.35`	`foxlit`	`That felt evil,really.`
`00:53.36`	`Hobinheim`	`but i have 1.5s just chillin out`
`00:53.39`	`[Zeal]`	`lol, mine asks. two updates for 1.5 in the last month.`
`00:53.40`	`TranceEmotion`	`With all the keyloggers, alot fo wow players are using firefox now as it is wayyy better than IE in field`
`00:53.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Woah, what?`
`00:54.01`	`TranceEmotion`	`that field*`
`00:54.05`	`Hobinheim`	`well, ie7 is pretty slick, it shows you every add-on loaded. but it's not like people check`
`00:54.18`	`[Zeal]`	`well, ui wise, i think ie7 is a pile of wank`
`00:54.19`	`Kirkburn`	`FF is no safer than IE`
`00:54.21`	`[Zeal]`	`why i use avant`
`00:54.35`	`Kirkburn`	`I'll qualify that, sorry`
`00:54.37`	`Hobinheim`	`sp2 was pretty solid in terms of blocking shit out`
`00:54.42`	`[Zeal]`	`Kirkburn speaketh the truth.`
`00:54.44`	`Kirkburn`	`FF2 is no safer against IE7, against that`
`00:54.46`	`Hobinheim`	`the only reason something would install is if someone actually let it go through`
`00:55.06`	`foxlit`	`The problem lies between the chair and the monitor.`
`00:55.08`	`TranceEmotion`	`maybe IE7 but not earlier version FF is way better`
`00:55.16`	`Hobinheim`	`omg i'm just avoiding work again i hate you guys`
`00:55.20`	`Teomyr`	`qft, foxlit`
`00:55.21`	`Kirkburn`	`TranceEmotion, hell yes`
`00:55.28`	`Kirkburn`	`Hobinheim, yay!`
`00:55.40`	`Hobinheim`	`sir, you've been the victim of an ID10T error`
`00:56.03`	`Kirkburn`	`If I find people using IE6 I give them a slap :P`
`00:56.03`	`TranceEmotion`	`aye..`
`00:56.17`	`[Zeal]`	`Basically, FF's security, is via optionally disabling usability. they is no real security benefit, merely that the IE issues are more well known and effect more people.`
`00:56.29`	`[Zeal]`	`*there`
`00:56.29`	`TranceEmotion`	`but people are switching to FF because of IE6 and lowers repuation`
`00:56.52`	`foxlit`	`*their?`
`00:56.54`	`Hobinheim`	`affect`
`00:56.58`	`[Zeal]`	`IE6 was awful standards wise, but FF is no angel either.`
`00:57.05`	`Hobinheim`	`to effect people is to give birth to them`
`00:57.05`	`TranceEmotion`	`FF updates/fixes roablems/has way fewer bugs that IE6`
`00:57.08`	`[Zeal]`	`nope, *there ;)`
`00:57.26`	`*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net)`
`00:57.30`	`TranceEmotion`	`i cant speak for ie7 as i dont use it`
`00:57.36`	`foxlit`	`Did they fix the memory leaks yet?`
`00:57.36`	`*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ`
`00:57.39`	`foxlit`	`:)`
`00:57.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Apparently the answer is ... "no, I will disconnect you"`
`00:57.45`	`[Zeal]`	`not true TranceEmotion, they jsut patch up their bugs quicker and it hasn't existed long enough to find them all.`
`00:58.15`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm glad IE has competition`
`00:58.18`	`[Zeal]`	`apparently firefox 1.x eating up CPU, leaking resources, and crashing randomly wasn't an issue for people >_>`
`00:58.19`	`foxlit`	`IE7 in Vista > Firefox probably`
`00:58.34`	`Kirkburn`	`foxlit, yup, I'd agree with that`
`00:58.38`	`[Zeal]`	`i reall should isntall thatl ast vista beta..`
`00:58.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Until the next FF`
`00:58.43`	`TranceEmotion`	`lol, FF is Netscape, and netscape has been around just as long as IE, try again...`
`00:58.55`	`[Zeal]`	`not its not TranceEmotion`
`00:58.56`	`Hobinheim`	`internet explorer 7 will never be better than firefox until i can rebind tab switching keys and scale font size`
`00:59.07`	`[Zeal]`	`based off, but it was a brand new core.`
`00:59.09`	`foxlit`	`Scale in IE7 = bliss`
`00:59.12`	`Hobinheim`	`scale font size properly`
`00:59.14`	`Kirkburn`	`foxlit, yeah`
`00:59.18`	`equiraptor`	`FF uses the Gecko core, which is an open source rewrite of the old Netscape.`
`00:59.18`	`foxlit`	`(zoom is freaking awesome!)`
`00:59.26`	`[Zeal]`	`exactly`
`00:59.27`	`Kirkburn`	`Hobinheim, IE7 has proper scaling`
`00:59.33`	`equiraptor`	`Netscape 4.x != netscape 6+`
`00:59.43`	`Kirkburn`	`And I mean proper scaling, not FF's hacky attempt`
`00:59.43`	`Hobinheim`	`lol i'm checking now, you're blaspheming`
`01:00.02`	`Hobinheim`	`oh shit real scaling`
`01:00.02`	`foxlit`	`And shrunken images actually look good for a change.`
`01:00.08`	`Kirkburn`	`=)`
`01:00.16`	`Hobinheim`	`fuck`
`01:00.19`	`[Zeal]`	`i can't live without font aa now..`
`01:00.24`	`[Zeal]`	`pains me to read in ff :P`
`01:00.38`	`Hobinheim`	`oh shit even with the plus minus keys`
`01:00.40`	`Hobinheim`	`HOTT!!!`
`01:00.42`	`Kirkburn`	`Hob ... Rebind tab switching keys? Hmm, probably never that one though =)`
`01:00.43`	`Hobinheim`	`wow, WOW`
`01:00.54`	`Kirkburn`	`haha`
`01:01.09`	`Kirkburn`	`[Zeal], turn on ClearType?`
`01:01.55`	`TranceEmotion`	`well ive had absolutly no problems with FF, whereas ive had nothing but problems with IE6 (ive had xp since it came out) so on a personal note, IE^ never again will i use it`
`01:01.59`	`foxlit`	`Isn't IE7 tab-switching Windows default?`
`01:02.29`	`Hobinheim`	`god i really don't feel like doing work... =(`
`01:02.35`	`Hobinheim`	`i just wanna go home and poopsock`
`01:02.38`	`[Zeal]`	`it is Kirkburn, doesn't effect ff`
`01:02.40`	`Hobinheim`	`or clean my room or something`
`01:02.52`	`Kirkburn`	`[Zeal], whaa?`
`01:03.00`	`[Zeal]`	`or its not.. meh`
`01:03.05`	`Kirkburn`	`It should do :P`
`01:03.11`	`[Zeal]`	`fairly sure i don't want it on anyways`
`01:04.20`	`Hobinheim`	`you don't read something awful?`
`01:04.27`	`Hobinheim`	`there's this urban legend or whatever`
`01:04.36`	`Hobinheim`	`a girlfriend goes to her boyfriend's room`
`01:04.38`	`[Zeal]`	`wtf@ff..`
`01:04.40`	`[Zeal]`	`argh`
`01:04.40`	`Hobinheim`	`bf plays wow a lot`
`01:04.49`	`Hobinheim`	`there's a duffel back near his chair`
`01:04.56`	`Hobinheim`	`he usually takes it, one day he left it behind`
`01:05.01`	`Hobinheim`	`the room kinda smelled`
`01:05.02`	`[Zeal]`	`no wonder you hated that new item page..`
`01:05.16`	`Hobinheim`	`she opened the bag and there were rolled up tube socks with poop in them`
`01:05.27`	`Hobinheim`	`hence playing wow for extended period amounts of time = poop socking`
`01:05.27`	`tekkub1`	`lol`
`01:05.32`	`Kirkburn`	`...`
`01:05.32`	`Hobinheim`	`to bio at chair w/o going to the banjo`
`01:05.38`	`Hobinheim`	`see also south park MOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM`
`01:05.42`	`Hobinheim`	`BATHROOOMMMMMM`
`01:05.47`	`Kirkburn`	`[Zeal], ?`
`01:06.17`	`[Zeal]`	`bah, cleartype off.. hurt eyes`
`01:06.20`	`Hobinheim`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJr1ueMrHS4`
`01:06.29`	`[Zeal]`	`erm.. firefox wasn't displaying the same as IE7`
`01:06.33`	`[Zeal]`	`gunna fix`
`01:07.26`	`[Zeal]`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/Sandbox/Item:Conjured_Bread fixed`
`01:07.49`	`[Zeal]`	`forgot the 1px would cause issues, IE7 didn't care however.`
`01:08.14`	`Hobinheim`	`i never liked health items, i never use them`
`01:08.28`	`Hobinheim`	`warriors bandage, rogues bandage, priests, shammies, druids, heal...`
`01:08.37`	`Hobinheim`	`locks drain tank...`
`01:09.05`	`[Zeal]`	`now to figure out wtf the toc is doing..`
`01:09.22`	`[Zeal]`	`why the hell are my headers being ignored all of a sudden >_<`
`01:09.53`	`Hobinheim`	`paging kirk`
`01:10.08`	`Kirkburn`	`mmm`
`01:11.25`	`Hobinheim`	`kirk are you not registered`
`01:11.34`	`Hobinheim`	`btw where does the name kirkburn come from`
`01:11.42`	`[Zeal]`	`{{{1}}} and {{{header}}} produce the same results, yet if i user header= it works as a toc header, is i juse enter the first value, no toc header..`
`01:11.55`	`Hobinheim`	`whoever can guess where my name comes from, i'll give them a cookie`
`01:11.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Wha?`
`01:11.55`	`[Zeal]`	`*if i just`
`01:11.58`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm regged`
`01:12.12`	`Hobinheim`	`are you identified now?`
`01:12.19`	`Kirkburn`	`http://www.kirkburn.eu/ to second question`
`01:12.49`	`[Zeal]`	`he dreams of burning captain kirk`
`01:12.59`	`Hobinheim`	`oh shit what's up design buddy`
`01:13.11`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm a burning Kirk in a church by a stream`
`01:19.40`	`tekkub1`	`Picard is obviously superior`
`01:19.42`	`[Zeal]`	`ok.. well i've stumbled upon a bug with the wiki`
`01:20.39`	`[Zeal]`	`for a header (using xhtml) to be added to the toc, it requires that an = proceeds it, probably because of the wiki markup for a header.`
`01:21.11`	`[Zeal]`	`so, i'm forced to user {{contenbox\|header=Blah}} isntead of {{contentbox\|Blah}}`
`01:21.39`	`tekkub1`	`why are you forced to do that?`
`01:21.41`	`Teomyr`	`that's probably not a bug, but a "feature"`
`01:21.57`	`tekkub1`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:22.01`	`tekkub1`	`{{{1}}}`
`01:22.13`	`Hobinheim`	`oh diss`
`01:22.22`	`tekkub1`	`{{{header\|{{{1}}}}}}`
`01:22.24`	`Kirkburn`	`You want me to call myself Picaburn?`
`01:22.28`	`tekkub1`	`hey that'll take both!`
`01:22.32`	`Kirkburn`	`"Little fire"`
`01:22.37`	`tekkub1`	`Cardburn?`
`01:22.40`	`tekkub1`	`alt name!`
`01:23.00`	`tekkub1`	`or just Ohhhburn`
`01:23.00`	`Hobinheim`	`don't cadbury eggs come from your part of the world`
`01:23.07`	`Hobinheim`	`Iceburn`
`01:23.13`	`Kirkburn`	`Better than my racially insensitive "Kilkbuln"`
`01:23.22`	`tekkub1`	`RAIN!`
`01:23.24`	`tekkub1`	`mmmm`
`01:23.25`	`Hobinheim`	`wow`
`01:23.26`	`Hobinheim`	`racist`
`01:23.31`	`tekkub1`	`tonights a hibernatin night`
`01:23.36`	`Hobinheim`	`INSURTING MY PEOPER?!`
`01:23.38`	`tekkub1`	`good thunderstorm out`
`01:23.52`	`Teomyr`	`[Zeal]: yes, you'll need to use \|header=blah, because that's a named argument`
`01:24.07`	`[Zeal]`	`no`
`01:24.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Hobinheim, you'le be solly!!`
`01:24.26`	`[Zeal]`	`i already had the template set to do {{{1}}} and {{{header}}}`
`01:24.34`	`Kirkburn`	`(you'le? wtf?)`
`01:24.43`	`tekkub1`	`what's the template code that's not working?`
`01:24.52`	`tekkub1`	`I see no reason why the two should differ`
`01:25.06`	`[Zeal]`	`neither did i`
`01:25.14`	`[Zeal]`	`but its nothing wrong with the template`
`01:25.16`	`tekkub1`	`unless there's an = in your arg`
`01:25.28`	`tekkub1`	`then you have to use 1=blah=blah`
`01:25.44`	`Hobinheim`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA`
`01:25.47`	`Teomyr`	`hmm`
`01:25.49`	`tekkub1`	`show me the offending line :P`
`01:25.58`	`Hobinheim`	`oh i'll show you an offending line`
`01:25.59`	`[Zeal]`	`{{{1}}} procuded the same code as {{{header}}}, except the wiki was appending the <a> for the header, so the toc doesn't add it.`
`01:26.04`	`[Zeal]`	`*wasn't`
`01:26.07`	`Hobinheim`	`tekkub, you're one sorry example of a human being`
`01:26.11`	`Hobinheim`	`waste of flesh even`
`01:26.20`	`[Zeal]`	`ts a bug in the wiki markup it seems`
`01:26.24`	`tekkub1`	`Hobinheim, screw you hippie`
`01:26.34`	`Hobinheim`	`i'd rather be a hippie than a commie, COMMIE`
`01:26.44`	`tekkub1`	`... James?`
`01:26.47`	`tekkub1`	`is that you?`
`01:27.51`	`Tekkub`	`one of the managers at the place I used to work at would say exactly that`
`01:28.08`	`Hobinheim`	`i'd rather be a ____ than a commie, commie?`
`01:28.08`	`Tekkub`	`he also called me a slacker`
`01:28.19`	`Tekkub`	`and got all bent when I called him a bastard`
`01:28.27`	`Tekkub`	`it was quite amusing`
`01:28.36`	`Tekkub`	`seems I hit a nerve with him`
`01:28.39`	`Hobinheim`	`yeah i'm one of those people that can dish it but can't take it`
`01:28.43`	`Tekkub`	`must miss his daddy`
`01:28.43`	`Hobinheim`	`i have thin skin =(`
`01:29.48`	`[Zeal]`	`{{{header\|{{{1\|}}}}}}, used that fallback in most of my templates, no issues, there wasn't any issues with the result of my template either. the only issue is when using i did specified the ehader, and was just feeding it ordered arguments, the wiki wasn't applying a link above the header (which i assumed it was supposed to do automatically), so it wasn't being added to the toc.`
`01:30.21`	`[Zeal]`	`*when i wasn't specifying header`
`01:31.21`	`Hobinheim`	`isn't adys english also?`
`01:31.31`	`Teomyr`	`no idea, sry zeal`
`01:31.36`	`Hobinheim`	`and appollo's like dutch or something`
`01:31.45`	`Teomyr`	`adys is french, i think`
`01:31.46`	`[Zeal]`	`it does do it automatically.. thats so weird : /`
`01:31.47`	`Hobinheim`	`aren't all you peans related or something`
`01:31.54`	`Hobinheim`	`AMERICA AMERICA!`
`01:33.20`	`Tekkub`	`fuck america`
`01:33.28`	`Hobinheim`	`traitor`
`01:33.35`	`Hobinheim`	`what did i tell you guys, he's a commie`
`01:33.49`	`Teomyr`	`zomg`
`01:34.21`	`Tekkub`	`I'm a canadien trapped in a stupid american's body`
`01:36.04`	`[Zeal]`	`scratch that, found the bug. it's an issue with new lines after the \|<value>. it works fine with \|<arg>=<value> though.`
`01:36.16`	`Hobinheim`	`i wish i had that stupid streamcast box so i can watch silly videos from my home computer...`
`01:36.26`	`[Zeal]`	`and also with \|<value>}}`
`01:37.49`	`Teomyr`	`damn, i should go to bed`
`01:37.52`	`Teomyr`	`but`
`01:37.58`	`Teomyr`	`there's an interesting flamewar going on`
`01:38.38`	`Teomyr`	`and i'm not tired at all (though i'm sure i won't be able to get up until 2PM)`
`01:40.19`	`[Zeal]`	`yay, fixed`
`01:41.57`	`Teomyr`	`you know what's pissing me off`
`01:42.10`	`Teomyr`	`mysql has this "MySQL Workbench", an alpha version`
`01:42.12`	`[Zeal]`	`the world?`
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`01:42.26`	`Teomyr`	`granted, it's an alpha version`
`01:42.56`	`Teomyr`	`but come on... releasing a version in which you can't apply changes you made to a table is just...`
`01:43.44`	`Teomyr`	`it's completely useless!`
`01:44.22`	`[Zeal]`	`O_o`
`01:45.33`	`Teomyr`	`joy! my wdb parser is working \o/`
`01:45.58`	`Kirkburn`	`__NOTOC__`
`01:46.04`	`[Zeal]`	`hows the parsing process now? wdb>xml>mysql?`
`01:46.18`	`[Zeal]`	`no, i just mean hidden, as in minized/closed.`
`01:46.26`	`Teomyr`	`no, more like wdb>`
`01:46.32`	`[Zeal]`	`*minimized`
`01:46.45`	`Teomyr`	`it's supposed to be wdb>mysql, but i haven't finished that yet`
`01:46.51`	`[Zeal]`	`ah, kk lol`
`01:48.05`	`[Zeal]`	`so, upload wdb, parses, then inserts into/updates the db?`
`01:48.14`	`Teomyr`	`exactly`
`01:48.19`	`[Zeal]`	`nice`
`01:48.24`	`Teomyr`	`and then the data is available to the wiki`
`01:48.41`	`[Zeal]`	`yayness.`
`01:48.58`	`[Zeal]`	`now we just need rustak..`
`01:49.18`	`Teomyr`	`need`
`01:49.35`	`[Zeal]`	`its scary to think, if he doesn't start being more active, the wiki will probably end up having to move without it's data : /`
`01:49.54`	`Teomyr`	`oh well`
`01:50.12`	`Teomyr`	`if it really were that bad, so that the wiki had to move to a different webspace...`
`01:50.25`	`Teomyr`	`there's still an XML export available ^^`
`01:50.45`	`[Zeal]`	`for admins use? cool.`
`01:50.53`	`Teomyr`	`no, for general use`
`01:51.12`	`[Zeal]`	`hm.. and the wiki has an import from xml too?`
`01:51.23`	`Teomyr`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Export`
`01:51.24`	`Teomyr`	`yes`
`01:51.45`	`Teomyr`	`but it'd still be a tedious process since there's so many pages`
`01:51.56`	`Teomyr`	`and images...`
`01:51.56`	`[Zeal]`	`indeed`
`01:52.43`	`[Zeal]`	`already probably end up doing my own warcraft lore wiki at this rate anyways`
`01:53.19`	`[Zeal]`	`wasn't really too up for the idea, but i've caught the wiki bug and i have too much free time, heh.`
`01:53.46`	`Teomyr`	`yay, free time!`
`01:54.05`	`Tekkub`	`screw free time, I'm gonna go sleep for 12hr`
`01:54.08`	`Tekkub`	`laters`
`01:54.24`	`Teomyr`	`cya`
`01:54.45`	`Teomyr`	`mhh...sleep`
`01:54.53`	`Teomyr`	`doesn't attract me the least at the moment`
`01:55.10`	`[Zeal]`	`wtf.. where has my page gone : /`
`01:55.30`	`Kirkburn`	`G'night Tek`
`01:55.57`	`Teomyr`	`i often lose pages, but in the sense of not finding them in the 200 browser tabs and windows i have opened`
`01:56.16`	`[Zeal]`	`nah its not that..`
`01:56.27`	`[Zeal]`	`www.worldoflorecraft.com 404 for you too?`
`01:56.45`	`Kirkburn`	`yes`
`01:56.51`	`Teomyr`	`not 404, but can't connect`
`01:56.58`	`[Zeal]`	`yet i'm looking at the page in my ftp right now : /`
`01:57.46`	`Teomyr`	`Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused`
`01:58.25`	`Teomyr`	`i haven't been around on the wiki for that long. what happened to silverside?`
`01:58.45`	`[Zeal]`	`sigh.. think i've had enough. was someone else's project that i've taken over, but it's still on his server, which is shit..`
`02:03.00`	`[Zeal]`	`hopefully i steal the domain, my host is planning to upgrade to php 5 soon, so i'll be able to run a wiki properly.`
`02:03.36`	`[Zeal]`	`*i can steal`
`02:07.44`	`Teomyr`	`you really want to split off of wowwiki? why?`
`02:08.06`	`Teomyr`	`(other than the issues with rustak)`
`02:09.58`	`[Zeal]`	`because of the negativity surrounding wowwiki in terms of lore.`
`02:10.23`	`[Zeal]`	`and the fact i can't work in a system i see as flawed :P`
`02:11.33`	`[Zeal]`	`currently, wowwiki i feel i'm contributing to a mess, and just making more mess. it's like trying to sort out recylable materials at a land fill.. >_>`
`02:13.08`	`Teomyr`	`hm... well, then it might be a good solution for you if you start in a 'fresh' wiki`
`02:13.15`	`[Zeal]`	`indeed`
`02:13.25`	`foxlit`	`We'll clone your pages afterwards, though :P`
`02:13.30`	`[Zeal]`	`sure`
`02:13.46`	`[Zeal]`	`doesn't bother me.`
`02:14.59`	`[Zeal]`	`i considering a wiki as a educational tool, fuck copyrights or content ownership, if it helps teach people, combats ignorance nd stupidity, i'm happy.`
`02:16.10`	`[Zeal]`	`*consider`
`02:16.13`	`[Zeal]`	`*and`
`02:16.15`	`[Zeal]`	`bah`
`02:16.42`	`Tekkub`	`still more for you to fix in that sentence :P`
`02:16.47`	`[Zeal]`	`i know`
`02:16.48`	`Teomyr`	`:D`
`02:16.51`	`Kirkburn`	`lol`
`02:17.25`	`Kirkburn`	`[Zeal], how long have you been visiting WoWWiki?`
`02:17.47`	`[Zeal]`	`visiting? hm.. no idea really.`
`02:18.07`	`Kirkburn`	`I would say it took me about 2 months of contributing before I really got a feel for how it all worked`
`02:18.23`	`Kirkburn`	`How have to balance what newbies want to do with what is ideal`
`02:18.30`	`Kirkburn`	`s/How/You/`
`02:18.34`	`Kirkburn`	`(wtf?)`
`02:18.58`	`[Zeal]`	`that should have been s/How/How you/ :p`
`02:19.01`	`[Zeal]`	`i think`
`02:19.06`	`Kirkburn`	`And obviously, cope with an admin who's not around that much`
`02:19.22`	`Kirkburn`	`yeah, that makes sense :P`
`02:19.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Despite Rustak's absence, the wiki isn't died or crashing or, in fact, getting worse`
`02:19.51`	`[Zeal]`	`i still 'feel' a mess.`
`02:20.08`	`Kirkburn`	`I know`
`02:20.28`	`Kirkburn`	`There's still a lot of "sorting" to do`
`02:20.36`	`[Zeal]`	`oh, i see adding new articles following existing 'policies' as making the matter worse :P`
`02:21.04`	`Kirkburn`	`But remember those policies were voted in`
`02:21.15`	`[Zeal]`	`i know`
`02:21.37`	`foxlit`	`Someone sort the Events section`
`02:21.41`	`[Zeal]`	`no offense, but i consider most people short sighted.`
`02:21.55`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm going to be deleting much of the news cat soon`
`02:22.11`	`foxlit`	`(category talk: news for my suggestion about that)`
`02:22.13`	`[Zeal]`	`those polcies worked i nthe short, but they're really not scalable for the wiki.`
`02:22.48`	`[Zeal]`	`s/i nthe short/in the short term`
`02:22.56`	`[Zeal]`	`no? bah`
`02:22.57`	`[Zeal]`	`lol`
`02:23.14`	`Teomyr`	`missing a slash in the end`
`02:23.21`	`Teomyr`	`^^`
`02:23.22`	`[Zeal]`	`ah.. yes`
`02:23.53`	`Kirkburn`	`foxlit, perhaps that would be something to start in the future`
`02:24.10`	`Kirkburn`	`The problem, however, is that it needs maintainers`
`02:24.31`	`Kirkburn`	`There's far too much stuff on the wiki that starts off well, then someone leaves and it crumbles`
`02:24.51`	`[Zeal]`	`would love to setup a test wiki like Teomyr has, just to copy over and show off my proposal. it doesn't really have the impact it deserves in my sandbox :P`
`02:25.09`	`Kirkburn`	`SilverSide did a lot of that. He came in a storm, did loads of stuff, started all these initiatives ... then left. Everything crumbled, the wiki started going to pieces`
`02:25.54`	`foxlit`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Spells_by_ID`
`02:25.55`	`Kirkburn`	`It's good to be ambitious, but you have to balance it with realism`
`02:25.57`	`foxlit`	`whoah?`
`02:25.57`	`[Zeal]`	`well, my idea, i would liek to think, could easily be done without me, and continued on in the future by any and every user.`
`02:26.24`	`[Zeal]`	`i think adys did those didn't he?`
`02:26.27`	`Kirkburn`	`Take your redesign [Zeal] ... that would take an absolute age to implement, and the wiki would be a mess during any transition`
`02:27.06`	`foxlit`	`The {{WoW API}} transition is still in the middle of doing something`
`02:27.12`	`[Zeal]`	`it would take a while, yes. but it can be doen in peices. and no, it wouldn't be a mess in transition.`
`02:27.24`	`Kirkburn`	`It's an interesting design, it is ... but can you get a newbie using it immediately?`
`02:27.33`	`[Zeal]`	`and even if the transition wasn't smooth, it would still be less of a mess that it currently is..`
`02:28.24`	`Kirkburn`	`This is talking specifically about the box design stuff - we're using the design wikipedia is using - is that surely not a good model for us?`
`02:28.33`	`[Zeal]`	`if policies go up, sure. even if they didn't, it would be very easy to catch and correct.`
`02:29.02`	`[Zeal]`	`oh god, certainly not. everything i said im my proposal applied to wikipedia too.`
`02:29.07`	`Kirkburn`	`foxlit, I'm never going to remember your wiki name, you know that? ;)`
`02:29.20`	`foxlit`	`Mwhahaha!`
`02:29.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Eek`
`02:29.27`	`Kirkburn`	`x 2`
`02:29.39`	`[Zeal]`	`wikipedia is worse than wowwiki, they just have been going long enough to achieve static navigation and lists.`
`02:29.43`	`foxlit`	`Maybe I should insert a spaec somwhere`
`02:29.50`	`foxlit`	`Boxes look overly busy, really.`
`02:29.58`	`foxlit`	`But that's just a personal opinion.`
`02:30.18`	`[Zeal]`	`ywah.. but i'm not evne proposing those yet..`
`02:30.20`	`[Zeal]`	`*yeah`
`02:30.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Half the world sees wikipedia, surely one of them would have thought "this is messed up, let's change this"?`
`02:30.41`	`Kirkburn`	`I mean, wikipedia has the resources to change a lot of stuff, but they don;t`
`02:30.50`	`[Zeal]`	`they can be styled in so many ways and voted on the final style. already showed how it can essentially look like default.`
`02:31.19`	`foxlit`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_The_Burning_Crusade makes me cry`
`02:31.41`	`foxlit`	`Then again, I practically wrote http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft, which is actually worse.`
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`02:32.33`	`[Zeal]`	`even if people decided they didn't want to use the boxes because of the editing issue, i'd be fine. i'm more interested in seeing a good structure. hell i could even redo those boxes so that, inserting the template would require more work, but you'd get edit links.`
`02:32.39`	`foxlit`	`Thinking about it, I should probably make World_of_Warcraft the way I want World_of_Warcraft:_The_Burning_Crusade to be.`
`02:32.57`	`TranceEmotion`	`lol`
`02:34.05`	`cluffenstein`	`Hi guys`
`02:34.13`	`[Zeal]`	`lo`
`02:34.21`	`TranceEmotion`	`ello`
`02:34.41`	`Kirkburn`	`cluffenstein, welcome`
`02:35.06`	`cluffenstein`	`thanks`
`02:36.08`	`Kirkburn`	`...`
`02:36.11`	`[Zeal]`	`as to wikipedia, its the prime example of when it's too late for change. i hope that wowwiki never gets to the point. any policy changes to wikipedia are not feasible`
`02:37.15`	`[Zeal]`	`lol`
`02:42.55`	`Teomyr`	`i'm off`
`02:42.58`	`Teomyr`	`see ya`
`02:43.02`	`TranceEmotion`	`later`
`02:50.24`	`Kirkburn`	`G'night all!`
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`03:39.01`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=UIHANDLER_OnEvent`
`03:39.04`	`Industrial`	`this is not documented`
`03:39.42`	`Industrial`	`if I do frame:SetScript('OnEvent', myfunc()) can myfunc() take any arguments`
`03:39.46`	`Industrial`	`like uh, the event? :>`
`03:51.53`	`[Zeal]`	`apparently #wowi_lounge or something can probably help you better.`
`03:51.58`	`[Zeal]`	`nn all`
`03:54.23`	`Industrial`	`frame, event, arg1, arg2, ..., arg9`
`03:54.25`	`Industrial`	`apparently`
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`13:29.36`	`Teomyr`	`bah... the mysql part is making my wdb parser awfully slow :(`
`13:29.59`	`Teomyr`	`only ~20 items per second`
`13:30.17`	`Teomyr`	`kind of bad when there's a wdb with 7000 entries :O`
`13:37.50`	`Apollozeus`	`hmm`
`13:37.50`	`Apollozeus`	`I should count how many red links to quest articles still exist`
`13:41.24`	`Apollozeus`	`or, rather, have the wiki calculate that for me in some way`
`13:47.41`	`Apollozeus`	`nvm not possible >_>`
`14:19.47`	`Kirkburn`	`Apollozeus, http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Wantedpages`
`14:19.56`	`Kirkburn`	`Just look for "Quest:"`
`14:20.11`	`Kirkburn`	`And, uh ... count :P`
`14:20.34`	`Apollozeus`	`yeah ;p`
`14:20.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Hmm, this needs fixing: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Category:Instance_Characters`
`14:20.43`	`Apollozeus`	`I'm not gonna count them by hand`
`14:20.44`	`Apollozeus`	`;p`
`14:21.02`	`Kirkburn`	`(the mobs should not be in that category)`
`14:21.40`	`Adys`	`done kirk`
`14:22.03`	`Kirkburn`	`What's done??`
`14:22.10`	`Adys`	`Stub/mob was linking to it`
`14:22.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah lol`
`14:22.29`	`Adys`	`theres 5-6 left`
`14:22.39`	`Kirkburn`	`ooh, would you look at that`
`14:23.15`	`Adys`	`Im in wsg =P`
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`15:40.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Improve me! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:About`
`15:41.29`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`Kirkburn, Improve me! as in delete useless words like "portmanteau of the acronym" ^^`
`15:41.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Heh`
`15:41.46`	`Kirkburn`	`That's what it said on wikipedia`
`15:41.47`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`or like adding to it: (In human turns, this means...)`
`15:41.56`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`terms*`
`15:42.23`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`Well, either way, I'm not going to fiddle with the about`
`15:42.34`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`but, a list of all admins would looik great there imo`
`15:43.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Yeah, that's a good idea`
`15:45.54`	`Kirkburn`	`K, added the list of admins`
`15:54.07`	`Apollozeus`	`rofl`
`15:54.17`	`Apollozeus`	`rustak's contact information`
`15:54.22`	`Apollozeus`	`as if that serves any purpose ;p`
`15:57.14`	`Teomyr`	`:D`
`15:59.31`	`Teomyr`	`damnit... my wdb parser is down to 10 items per second :<`
`16:09.59`	`Teomyr`	`could anyone provide me with a enGB/enUS/frFR itemcache.wdb?`
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`16:16.52`	`Teomyr`	`hehe`
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`16:26.26`	`Fin`	`bonjour Adys`
`16:27.45`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`Teomyr`
`16:27.48`	`Adys`	`Fin!`
`16:28.10`	`Teomyr`	`hi adys`
`16:28.13`	`Teomyr`	`Patrigan-Syldra: yes?`
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`16:28.55`	`Fin`	`how's tricks, mon petit Frenchella`
`16:28.58`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`you still want that enGB itemcache?`
`16:29.02`	`Adys`	`lol`
`16:29.10`	`Teomyr`	`yes, that'd be nice`
`16:29.13`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`but`
`16:29.17`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`I have itemcache`
`16:29.21`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`itemnamecache`
`16:29.25`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`itemtextcache`
`16:29.30`	`Teomyr`	`itemcache.wdb`
`16:29.31`	`Apollozeus`	`I have cash`
`16:29.33`	`Apollozeus`	`lots of it`
`16:29.34`	`Apollozeus`	`<_<`
`16:29.35`	`Apollozeus`	`>_>`
`16:29.40`	`Teomyr`	`:D`
`16:29.40`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`good`
`16:29.43`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`now give some to me`
`16:30.16`	`Teomyr`	`could you try to DCC the file? don't know if it works`
`16:30.25`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`alrdy did it :)`
`16:30.32`	`Teomyr`	`oh`
`16:30.33`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`4.64MB >.>`
`16:30.41`	`Teomyr`	`my bouncer must have it, then. thanks ;)`
`16:30.53`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`XD`
`16:30.57`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`your bouncer? XD`
`16:31.18`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`just hoping my Firewall wants to cooperate...`
`16:31.19`	`Teomyr`	`yes, irc bouncer. never heard of it? ^^`
`16:31.25`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`I really should fix him up...`
`16:31.28`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`not really ^^`
`16:32.40`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`transfer timed out oO`
`16:33.14`	`Teomyr`	`could you try again please?`
`16:33.34`	`Teomyr`	`or, no, wait`
`16:33.57`	`Teomyr`	`should work now`
`16:34.03`	`Teomyr`	`in theory ^^`
`16:35.11`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`Sec gonna check up with my firewall`
`16:35.20`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`any clue which ports the IRC DCC uses?`
`16:35.43`	`Teomyr`	`mine uses 59 for incoming`
`16:36.29`	`Kirkburn`	`Want a Burning Srusade one?`
`16:36.32`	`Kirkburn`	`*crusade`
`16:37.11`	`Teomyr`	`yes, i have one, but others would be nice too :D`
`16:37.24`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`I recently deleted my BC`
`16:37.28`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`due to lack of time`
`16:37.40`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`GAH!`
`16:37.45`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`friggin firewall XD`
`16:37.50`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`see the problem`
`16:38.00`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`I recently formatted a PC in my network`
`16:38.10`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`and the firewall took away it's IP and readded it afterwards`
`16:38.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Teomyr, yay I can't send either :P`
`16:38.25`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`meaning everything above (including this comp) got a number 1 lower...`
`16:38.31`	`Teomyr`	`omg ^^`
`16:38.34`	`Teomyr`	`sec`
`16:38.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Email?`
`16:39.05`	`Kirkburn`	`"DCC SEND itemcache.wdb to Teomyr failed. A request to send or receive data was disallowed because the socket is not connected and (when sending on a datagram socket using a sendto call) no address was supplied"`
`16:39.26`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`I'm just getting a timeout ^^`
`16:39.33`	`Teomyr`	`i want this to work! :o`
`16:40.19`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`well I fixed my firewall now, if it still doesn't work, it's your side!`
`16:40.32`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`if you like, I can upload it to my server`
`16:41.09`	`Teomyr`	`yes, its probably my client's or router's settings`
`16:41.28`	`Teomyr`	`i changed them now, could you try again please? :)`
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`16:44.14`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`timed out`
`16:44.46`	`Teomyr`	`strange`
`16:45.45`	`Teomyr`	`when we tried last time, i got kirkburn's dcc send, but not yours (though no data could be sent)`
`16:46.10`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`hmmm`
`16:46.15`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`I'll put it on my server`
`16:46.18`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`might be my firewall`
`16:46.26`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`welln,, better said firewalls...`
`16:47.31`	`Teomyr`	`kirkburn, could you try one last time? sorry if i'm annoying :P`
`16:47.47`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`hmmmm`
`16:47.57`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`can't even connect to my ownb server >.>`
`16:48.19`	`Kirkburn`	`http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/itemcache.wdb`
`16:48.44`	`Teomyr`	`very strange. my irc client listens on 8613, and that port is forwarded, but no data :(`
`16:48.48`	`Teomyr`	`thanks :)`
`16:50.28`	`Teomyr`	`wtf... my parser is still processing the old wdb file with 7700 entries oO`
`16:50.35`	`Teomyr`	`curse you, mysql!`
`16:51.44`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`16:51.52`	`Kirkburn`	`It's probably my fault that it doesn't send`
`16:52.00`	`Kirkburn`	`Yay for having websites :P`
`16:52.38`	`Teomyr`	`indeed :D`
`16:55.48`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`well, I know one thing`
`16:55.55`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`my internet is fucked up`
`16:56.01`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`can't reach ftp servers whatsoever`
`16:56.12`	`Fin`	`can't even login?`
`16:57.34`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`nope`
`16:57.40`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`but I think I got it fixed now`
`16:57.48`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`restarted all firewalls`
`16:58.01`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`scary thing to do, cuz that means I'm open for attacks >.>`
`16:58.49`	`Fin`	`you mean you completely reset your firewalls?!`
`16:58.58`	`Fin`	`what sort of firewalls are you using?`
`17:02.56`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`http://student.vub.ac.be/~pprovinc/itemcache.wdb`
`17:03.02`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`ninja it plix`
`17:04.49`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`Teomyr !`
`17:08.23`	`Teomyr`	`thanks!`
`17:12.47`	`Teomyr`	`something in the WDB format has changed with bc`
`17:12.58`	`Teomyr`	`each entry is 8 bytes longer`
`17:13.24`	`Teomyr`	`i know where the first extra 4 bytes are, but i have no idea where to put the other 4 oO`
`17:14.16`	`Fin`	`http://www.sourcepeek.com/wiki/Talk:ItemCache.wdb#BC_2.0.3_patch..`
`17:14.28`	`Fin`	`might help, dunno`
`17:15.39`	`Teomyr`	`note to self: remember to check talk pages more often`
`17:15.42`	`Teomyr`	`thanks! :D`
`17:16.25`	`Fin`	`glad it helped, it was a bit of a shot in the dark`
`17:16.55`	`Teomyr`	`it did`
`17:16.56`	`Fin`	`I've thought about writing a converter before, are you going to make yours public?`
`17:17.48`	`Teomyr`	`don't know whether it would be useful. it's a wdb > mysql converter written in php, for integration with the wiki`
`17:18.52`	`Fin`	`oh, huh, I was just reading something in the Village Pump about that (something to do with tooltips)`
`17:19.19`	`Fin`	`do you have anything against sharing it? cos I'd love a copy :)`
`17:20.31`	`Teomyr`	`it's too messy to be published right now :D`
`17:20.56`	`Fin`	`heh, k`
`17:21.12`	`Teomyr`	`i might release it later once it has less bugs and is more readable ^^`
`17:21.40`	`Teomyr`	`in case you're interested in the wdb integration for the wiki, you can have a look at my test site at http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Main_Page`
`17:21.58`	`Teomyr`	`i did some stuff there which i'm trying to improve atm ;)`
`17:22.27`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`k`
`17:22.32`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`1 BIG note I alrdy have`
`17:22.40`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`make it clearer what is tooltipped and what isn't`
`17:22.47`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`atm it looks like 1 text`
`17:23.59`	`Teomyr`	`you mean on [[Item Tooltip Test]]?`
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`17:24.55`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Main_Page`
`17:24.57`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`there`
`17:25.04`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`#tooltips`
`17:25.27`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`those 4 dots are all tooltips`
`17:25.31`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`but by just looking at it`
`17:25.34`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`you don't know`
`17:25.41`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`how can I see it's a tooltip?`
`17:25.50`	`Teomyr`	`ah, yes, you're right ;)`
`17:27.24`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`but don't just underline it`
`17:27.38`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`perhaps underline it like an admin name?`
`17:27.57`	`Teomyr`	`dotted`
`17:28.02`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`yeah`
`17:28.28`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`other tha that, it looks really nice :)`
`17:29.00`	`Teomyr`	`thanks :)`
`17:29.14`	`Teomyr`	`maybe it'll be part of the official wiki one day`
`17:31.01`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`one day? Let's say tomorrow?`
`17:31.07`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`don't say we need Rustak for it >.>`
`17:32.17`	`Teomyr`	`correct :/`
`17:32.43`	`Teomyr`	`that's why i set up a test wiki. what i'm doing here are extensions for mediawiki`
`17:32.55`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`grmmmbml`
`17:32.57`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`so....`
`17:33.13`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`rustak plays shaman on the american Burning Legion`
`17:36.04`	`Teomyr`	`gank him! :O`
`17:38.55`	`Teomyr`	`^^`
`17:38.55`	`Teomyr`	`<-- afk`
`17:45.25`	`Tekkub`	`that kicks ass`
`17:45.36`	`Tekkub`	`fuck rustak, lets move to a new server`
`17:45.47`	`Apollozeus`	`one problem`
`17:46.00`	`Apollozeus`	`we can't snatch the mysql database`
`17:46.09`	`Tekkub`	`grumble`
`17:46.22`	`Tekkub`	`I'm about sick of rustak`
`17:46.28`	`Tekkub`	`and I've never talked to him`
`17:46.31`	`Tekkub`	`and that's why`
`17:46.50`	`Tekkub`	`everyone on US live, make a toon and spam up his ingame mail :)`
`17:47.22`	`Apollozeus`	`are we sure his ingame name is rustak as well?`
`17:47.23`	`Apollozeus`	`<_<`
`17:48.13`	`Tekkub`	`duno...`
`17:48.20`	`Tekkub`	`argh`
`17:53.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys: kill! http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Ward_of_the_Elements.gif >.<`
`17:54.27`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`love players who don't know bout the icons upload ^^`
`17:54.41`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`Apollozeus`
`17:54.44`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`we can only hop`
`17:54.46`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`hope*`
`17:55.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Patrigan-Syldra, it's not as if I added giant notices to the image upload page ......`
`17:55.34`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`perhaps they're too small?`
`17:55.38`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`MAKE THEM BIGGER!`
`17:55.51`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`or people ar ejust too lazy to search for it ^^`
`17:55.59`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`or they dislike the naming?`
`17:56.12`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`thena gain`
`17:56.29`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`people look for "ward of the elements" and not for the real icon name`
`17:56.34`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`which causes problems`
`17:57.30`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`brb`
`17:59.59`	`Teomyr`	`re`
`18:03.23`	`Fin`	`is it just me, or is the styles on the Preferences page broken?`
`18:04.03`	`Kirkburn`	`This may help a bit with the images: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Upload`
`18:04.08`	`Kirkburn`	`Fin, it is, yes`
`18:05.56`	`Teomyr`	`Finished WDB parsing. (8410 items, 6007 skipped, 2403 new). :O`
`18:08.19`	`Kirkburn`	`woo`
`18:08.35`	`Fin`	`nice!`
`18:09.45`	`Teomyr`	`heh`
`18:09.55`	`Teomyr`	`i think i'm going to write a PHP class for it`
`18:13.21`	`Fin`	`great idea!`
`18:13.27`	`Fin`	`then release it :P`
`18:13.41`	`Teomyr`	`after all, there are other wdb formats that my parser doesn't support`
`18:14.00`	`Adys`	`Kirkburn: lol`
`18:14.24`	`Adys`	`Argh I hate this`
`18:15.26`	`Fin`	`Teomyr: right, but releasing it would enable people like me to contribute bits to support more formats :)`
`18:15.56`	`Kirkburn`	`zomg, RC page update :P`
`18:16.19`	`Teomyr`	`Fin: it'd probably take more time if you had to understand my code first :P`
`18:16.52`	`Adys`	`Oi teo`
`18:17.01`	`Adys`	`dont underestimate fin!`
`18:17.26`	`Teomyr`	`^^`
`18:17.35`	`Fin`	`aw, thanks Adys`
`18:17.54`	`Fin`	`Teomyr: there's only one way to find out!`
`18:17.55`	`Adys`	`nice work btw kirk`
`18:20.44`	`Adys`	`I miss Ommra in my talk page`
`18:20.56`	`Adys`	`Quel'Serrar Serrar, Whatever will be, Will be`
`18:23.01`	`Adys`	`Kirky!`
`18:23.03`	`Adys`	`I mean Kirk`
`18:23.13`	`Adys`	`Or anyone else..`
`18:23.42`	`Adys`	`How "doable" would it be to superpose 1-3 numbers on the item icons on item pages`
`18:23.54`	`Adys`	`I really like thottbot's way to show stacks`
`18:24.12`	`Adys`	`instead of the ==Notes== Yaddiyadda stacks in groups of 20..`
`18:24.36`	`Kirkburn`	`You would have to edit the pic itself most likely`
`18:24.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Click history on any page and tell me what you think!`
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`18:27.54`	`Adys`	`mm not bad`
`18:28.11`	`Adys`	`I prefer the pretty infoboxes :P`
`18:30.05`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`18:30.31`	`Adys`	`is there any mediawiki addon to put an image in the background instead of as its handled now?`
`18:30.43`	`Adys`	`but at the same time, keep the link to the image page..`
`18:31.01`	`Adys`	`Compare:`
`18:31.04`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Basilisk_Brain`
`18:31.08`	`Adys`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=5198`
`18:31.33`	`Kirkburn`	`Also updated the page move text`
`18:32.00`	`Adys`	`mm`
`18:32.22`	`Teomyr`	`Adys: look at wowhead, they're showing stacks very nicely too`
`18:32.50`	`Adys`	`yeah its same as thottbot`
`18:32.55`	`Adys`	`its basically what i want to do`
`18:33.06`	`Teomyr`	`i don't know about the background thingy, but can't you specify styles with an image?`
`18:33.16`	`Adys`	`i dont think so`
`18:33.22`	`Teomyr`	`hm`
`18:33.30`	`Adys`	`well not with wikicode anyways`
`18:33.41`	`Adys`	`Imagine the template ...`
`18:33.49`	`Adys`	`{{icon}}`
`18:34.43`	`Adys`	`[[Image:{{{1}}}.png\|left\|overlay={{{2}}}]`
`18:35.02`	`Adys`	`where overlay would be a text going over the icon, say.`
`18:35.44`	`Adys`	`and ofc if no arg2 then no overlay`
`18:35.58`	`Adys`	`just thinking here... would be awesome`
`18:39.11`	`Adys`	`{{Icon}} : <noinclude>[[Category:Item Templates]]</noinclude>[[Image:{{{1}}}.png\|left]]`
`18:39.14`	`Adys`	`for now`
`18:40.09`	`Teomyr`	`http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Stack_Size_Test`
`18:40.32`	`Adys`	`oO`
`18:41.10`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`18:41.34`	`Adys`	`Well...`
`18:41.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Yay for divs`
`18:41.49`	`Adys`	`though`
`18:41.50`	`Kirkburn`	`It's entirely possible`
`18:41.54`	`Adys`	`would it work on an entire page?`
`18:42.09`	`Kirkburn`	`I totally forgot about that method :P`
`18:42.18`	`Kirkburn`	`You can easily fit it into the templates`
`18:42.35`	`Adys`	`testing something, gimme a min`
`18:43.03`	`Kirkburn`	`The code ( <div style="position: absolute; right: 6px; bottom: 5px; font-weight: bold">200</div> )`
`18:43.31`	`Kirkburn`	`I think we should make the stack size clearer though`
`18:43.40`	`Kirkburn`	`No need to do it exactly as the other do`
`18:43.44`	`Kirkburn`	`*others`
`18:46.35`	`Adys`	`Hmm`
`18:46.46`	`Adys`	`is it possible to add or change a font on wowwiki?`
`18:47.13`	`Teomyr`	`how so?`
`18:47.23`	`Adys`	`change a font`
`18:47.24`	`Teomyr`	`in theory, you can specify any font in the style`
`18:47.33`	`Adys`	`Well yeah thats what im wondering`
`18:47.36`	`Teomyr`	`style="font-family: Tahoma;"`
`18:47.39`	`Teomyr`	`for example`
`18:48.00`	`Adys`	`http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Special:Preferences`
`18:48.02`	`Adys`	`fix that =P`
`18:48.14`	`Teomyr`	`:D`
`18:50.45`	`Adys`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54326 lol`
`18:53.36`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Maces_%28Two_Handed%29`
`18:53.52`	`Adys`	`shouldnt that be Two Handed Maces?`
`18:54.48`	`Apollozeus`	`<@Adys> http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54326 lol <-- I WANT THAT`
`18:55.08`	`Adys`	`pfft :P`
`18:56.35`	`Adys`	`<noinclude>[[Category:Item Templates]]</noinclude><div style="position: relative; width: 64px; height: 64px; float: left; margin-right: 0.5em">[[Image:{{{1}}}.png\|left]]<div style="position: absolute; right: 6px; bottom: 5px; font-weight: bold">200</div></div>`
`18:56.56`	`Adys`	`Correction... <noinclude>[[Category:Item Templates]]</noinclude><div style="position: relative; width: 64px; height: 64px; float: left; margin-right: 0.5em">[[Image:{{{1}}}.png\|left]]<div style="position: absolute; right: 6px; bottom: 5px; font-weight: bold">{{{2}}}</div></div>`
`18:57.08`	`Adys`	`Anything unneeded?`
`18:58.26`	`Apollozeus`	`yeah`
`18:58.32`	`Apollozeus`	`<@Adys> <-- that is unneeded`
`18:58.40`	`Adys`	`eh..?`
`18:58.45`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Icon`
`18:58.48`	`Apollozeus`	`nvm, that joke sucked`
`18:58.49`	`Apollozeus`	`D:`
`18:58.55`	`Adys`	`bah :P`
`18:58.55`	`Teomyr`	`i think the \|left in the image code can be removed`
`18:59.03`	`Teomyr`	`but try it first`
`18:59.06`	`Adys`	`Aye will do`
`18:59.26`	`Adys`	`but first..`
`18:59.26`	`Adys`	`I need to have a blank {{{2}}}`
`18:59.26`	`Adys`	`if not specified`
`18:59.26`	`Adys`	`and I suck with this =P`
`19:01.19`	`Adys`	`k wtf?`
`19:01.20`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Netherwind_Robes`
`19:03.33`	`Adys`	`argh whats up with that`
`19:06.17`	`Apollozeus`	`Categories: Items with Stamina \| Items with Intellect \| Items with Spirit \| Items with Fire Resistance \| Items with Nature Resistance \|`
`19:06.23`	`Apollozeus`	`o.O`
`19:06.24`	`Adys`	`thats normal`
`19:06.31`	`Adys`	`check Template:Attribute`
`19:06.31`	`Apollozeus`	`are those going to be added?`
`19:06.34`	`Adys`	`nah`
`19:06.39`	`Adys`	`its more of a test area`
`19:06.45`	`Apollozeus`	`lol`
`19:07.27`	`Adys`	`INV_Chest_Cloth_03 Netherwind Robes is cloth che`
`19:07.32`	`Adys`	`[...]`
`19:07.42`	`Adys`	`I dont get it`
`19:08.35`	`Adys`	`Ok rolled back Template:Icon to [[Image:{{{1}}}.png\|left]]`
`19:08.38`	`Apollozeus`	`hmm`
`19:08.51`	`Adys`	`and it still fucks up`
`19:09.04`	`*** join/#wowwiki MentalPower_ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-116-177.onelinkpr.net)`
`19:09.45`	`Adys`	`arg`
`19:10.03`	`Adys`	`I dont like when things dont work >< :(`
`19:11.47`	`Teomyr`	`Adys: http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Special:Preferences (refresh!)`
`19:12.15`	`Adys`	`Better =P`
`19:12.21`	`Teomyr`	`^^`
`19:12.33`	`Adys`	`but i still dont get it`
`19:12.41`	`Adys`	`wtf is up with the icon thing`
`19:12.46`	`Adys`	`[[Image:{{{1}}}.png\|left]]`
`19:12.48`	`Adys`	`whats wrong ,`
`19:12.59`	`Teomyr`	`don't know`
`19:18.46`	`Fin`	`Adys: what's wrong with what?`
`19:27.19`	`Adys`	`Fin: it doesn't work`
`19:27.30`	`Adys`	`check http://www.wowwiki.com/Netherwind_Robes`
`19:27.32`	`Adys`	`its used there`
`19:27.40`	`Adys`	`it displays the name of the icon instead of the icon`
`19:28.44`	`Fin`	`is there somewhere it does work?`
`19:28.51`	`Adys`	`nope`
`19:28.56`	`Adys`	`i rolled it back to its simplest form`
`19:28.59`	`Fin`	`oh`
`19:29.00`	`Adys`	`it should work without problems`
`19:29.24`	`Adys`	`{{{Icon\|INV_Chest_Cloth_03}}}`
`19:29.33`	`Adys`	`erm... wth`
`19:29.39`	`Fin`	`was it working before?`
`19:29.47`	`Adys`	`nope just created it`
`19:29.52`	`Adys`	`found what was wrong :)`
`19:29.56`	`Fin`	`well`
`19:29.58`	`Adys`	`three {{{}}} instead of two`
`19:30.09`	`Fin`	`when I just looked at it, it had \|10 at the end of the icon name`
`19:30.21`	`Adys`	`yes, its supposedly the stack`
`19:30.42`	`Fin`	`it might be thinking that's part of the filename?`
`19:30.49`	`Adys`	`nope, no worries`
`19:30.59`	`Adys`	`my plan is to make it so the second arg is the stack.. lemme show you, now it should work`
`19:31.41`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Netherwind_Robes`
`19:31.46`	`Adys`	`check that out :) (refresh)`
`19:32.07`	`Adys`	`{{Icon\|INV_Chest_Cloth_03\|5}}`
`19:32.24`	`Fin`	`ace`
`19:32.51`	`foxlit`	`Why the 5? :)`
`19:32.56`	`Adys`	`for a test =P`
`19:33.08`	`Adys`	`stack size eventually on real items`
`19:33.11`	`Fin`	`s'nice`
`19:33.13`	`Adys`	`now...`
`19:33.29`	`Adys`	`I need to make it null if the second arg isnt specified`
`19:33.31`	`Fin`	`btw, any reason why the information on sourcepeek.com shouldn't be copied over to wowwiki?`
`19:33.35`	`Adys`	`and i have no idea how to do that`
`19:33.40`	`Adys`	`not sure its 100% legal fin`
`19:33.50`	`Adys`	`so better have separate wikis`
`19:34.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys, nice work on the stack size!`
`19:34.22`	`Adys`	`Kirk, you're the man I need =P`
`19:34.23`	`Fin`	`s'waht I figured`
`19:34.25`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Netherwind_Robes - fix me that`
`19:34.28`	`Adys`	`:P`
`19:34.41`	`Kirkburn`	`What's wrong with it!?`
`19:34.47`	`Adys`	`refresh :-p`
`19:34.53`	`Adys`	`{{{2}}} if stacksize empty`
`19:34.57`	`Kirkburn`	`oh`
`19:35.02`	`Kirkburn`	`Tekkub!`
`19:35.10`	`Adys`	`aint there :/`
`19:35.25`	`Kirkburn`	`So?? :P Tekkub!`
`19:35.27`	`Tekkub`	`nandayo?`
`19:35.30`	`Adys`	`bah`
`19:35.36`	`Teomyr`	`umm`
`19:35.37`	`Kirkburn`	`heehee`
`19:35.43`	`Teomyr`	`{{{2\|}}} ?`
`19:36.24`	`Adys`	`go ahead teo`
`19:36.29`	`Adys`	`i have no idea`
`19:36.39`	`Adys`	`i just know its possible and easy :p`
`19:37.14`	`Adys`	`lol`
`19:37.16`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Netherweave_Cloth`
`19:37.23`	`Adys`	`"Netherweave is the next generation of cloth."`
`19:37.46`	`Teomyr`	`Adys: there you go`
`19:38.37`	`Adys`	`<3`
`19:39.01`	`Adys`	`ah i see how it works`
`19:40.43`	`Adys`	`Anyone else than me thinks it's time to write a guide on how to create an item page`
`19:40.56`	`Adys`	`instead of that .. illisible boilerplate`
`19:41.21`	`Teomyr`	`yes`
`19:41.41`	`Teomyr`	`or wait until my wdb thingy is finished and rustak is back :P`
`19:41.50`	`Teomyr`	`which could, basically, take forever`
`19:42.18`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Boilerplate:Item`
`19:42.29`	`Adys`	`not really lisible... any advice?`
`19:42.47`	`Adys`	`I like the size, thinking about another font`
`19:43.34`	`Teomyr`	`what are you referring to`
`19:43.43`	`Teomyr`	`the whole page or the tooltip?`
`19:43.45`	`Adys`	`stack`
`19:43.51`	`Adys`	`"20"`
`19:44.05`	`Adys`	`on bright icons its not very clear`
`19:45.44`	`Teomyr`	`ah`
`19:45.46`	`Teomyr`	`hmm`
`19:45.58`	`Teomyr`	`wowhead has an outline around them, not sure how they do it`
`19:46.43`	`Teomyr`	`ah`
`19:47.12`	`Teomyr`	`looks like they're putting a white stack size on a slightly larger black one`
`19:47.33`	`Adys`	`... oO lol`
`19:48.58`	`Adys`	`ge('ic21845').appendChild(g_CreateIcon('INV_Fabric_MoonRag_Primal', 2, 0, 0, 20));`
`19:48.58`	`Adys`	`g_AppendTooltip('tt21845', '<b class="q3">Primal Mooncloth</b>');`
`19:49.05`	`Adys`	`(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21845)`
`19:49.06`	`*** join/#wowwiki MentalPower\|Univ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-116-177.onelinkpr.net)`
`19:53.50`	`*** join/#wowwiki Garthnait (n=test@dslb-084-058-177-174.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`19:53.58`	`Garthnait`	`Hello`
`19:54.38`	`Garthnait`	`anybody here?`
`19:57.44`	`Adys`	`yepp`
`19:57.48`	`Adys`	`sort of`
`19:58.27`	`Teomyr`	`Adys: http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Stack_Size_Test`
`20:00.01`	`Kirkburn`	`Garthnait, welcome`
`20:00.07`	`Adys`	`Awesome, teomyr`
`20:00.11`	`Garthnait`	`Is somebody here that can help me creating an AddOn for WoW (sorry bout me bad english)`
`20:00.33`	`Kirkburn`	`Teomyr, haha, sneaky`
`20:00.46`	`Adys`	`love ya :)`
`20:00.46`	`Kirkburn`	`Garthnait, I recommend you go to the #wowi-lounge channel`
`20:01.04`	`Garthnait`	`#wowi-lounge`
`20:01.08`	`Garthnait`	`ups ^^`
`20:01.11`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`20:02.54`	`Adys`	`gosh`
`20:02.57`	`Adys`	`awesome teo :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Runecloth`
`20:03.10`	`Teomyr`	`hehe, thanks :D`
`20:04.01`	`Adys`	`Aight..`
`20:04.32`	`Adys`	`lol`
`20:04.33`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Rouge`
`20:04.59`	`Teomyr`	`lmao`
`20:06.36`	`Kirkburn`	`Vote! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Policy/Stub#Policy_ratification_vote`
`20:08.00`	`Adys`	`sounds really good`
`20:14.03`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys, are all icons done?`
`20:14.07`	`Kirkburn`	`(non TBC)`
`20:14.23`	`Adys`	`Nope, actually Im gonna finish that off now`
`20:14.45`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List`
`20:14.50`	`Adys`	`everything in red is missing`
`20:15.47`	`Kirkburn`	`woo`
`20:15.59`	`Kirkburn`	`Ooh, not much`
`20:16.30`	`Kirkburn`	`Where'd Tusva go, eh?`
`20:16.37`	`Adys`	`quitted wow methink`
`20:17.37`	`Kirkburn`	`:(`
`20:21.31`	`Adys`	`AAARRGGHHH`
`20:21.47`	`Adys`	`I just figured out`
`20:21.56`	`Adys`	`Now I need to use my {{icon}} template...`
`20:22.34`	`Fin`	`there there Adys`
`20:27.04`	`foxlit`	`What's with the crazy <div style="margin-left: 3%"> lately?`
`20:27.05`	`foxlit`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_function_hooking_libraries`
`20:30.11`	`Adys`	`OwlBoy has updated shitloads of selfmade wow icons`
`20:30.16`	`Adys`	`im trying to replace them atm`
`20:30.51`	`Adys`	`Owlboy's revision: http://www.wowwiki.com/images/archive/a/a8/20061230202435%21Spell_Fire_Fireball.png`
`20:31.01`	`Adys`	`Official revision: http://www.wowwiki.com/images/a/a8/Spell_Fire_Fireball.png`
`20:31.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah the shadow`
`20:31.31`	`Adys`	`aye`
`20:33.28`	`Kirkburn`	`foxlit, it looks cool?`
`20:34.30`	`Kirkburn`	`fixxored the page anyway`
`20:34.37`	`foxlit`	`It's silly.`
`20:35.14`	`foxlit`	`There's no real reason to use indenting like that, and it just wastes space.`
`20:38.06`	`Teomyr`	`personally, i think the icons uploaded by owlboy look nice`
`20:38.32`	`Teomyr`	`they're not selfmade, but they use a photoshop template contained in the official wow fan site kit`
`20:39.04`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Totem_WardofDraining.png`
`20:39.07`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Totem_WardOfDraining.png`
`20:39.13`	`Adys`	`blizzard is lame`
`20:39.19`	`Adys`	`the second is the right one`
`20:39.39`	`Teomyr`	`they both have an ugly border`
`20:39.49`	`Teomyr`	`(imho)`
`20:39.58`	`Teomyr`	`i do. it's non-standard :P`
`20:40.04`	`Adys`	`Shoo`
`20:42.34`	`Adys`	`lol kirk`
`20:42.44`	`Adys`	`I remember you telling "Images keep the text alive"`
`20:42.45`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DarkTichondrias/Darkvoid`
`20:43.15`	`Kirkburn`	`NOT HIS`
`20:43.31`	`Kirkburn`	`I don't even need to look at the page to say that`
`20:43.50`	`Kirkburn`	`oh, oh my god, oh my`
`20:44.07`	`Adys`	`haha`
`20:44.11`	`Fin`	`alive and currently having some sort of fit`
`20:44.48`	`Kirkburn`	`His paint skills are "interesting"`
`20:45.03`	`Kirkburn`	`All those awful WC3 mob skills pictures - DT`
`20:45.24`	`Fin`	`at least he's trying`
`20:45.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Yes, but if you're going to post a low quality bitmap, don't blow it up to three times normal size and paste it randomly into a rectangle`
`20:46.11`	`Fin`	`ooh: http://www.wowwiki.com/Kunal_Plushybottoms`
`20:46.29`	`Adys`	`good god`
`20:49.01`	`Kirkburn`	`How can you put: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Parasite_Ability_W3.jpg, http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mana_Shield_Ability_W3.jpg, http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Firebolt_Ability_W3.jpg in an article?`
`20:49.08`	`Kirkburn`	`They're all different sizes and qualities`
`20:49.11`	`Fin`	`"Kunal Plushybottoms admired a Pandaren woman for he warrior prowess, but he dared not court her. She was a member of the earth clan which was hostile to his Storm Clan."`
`20:49.27`	`Fin`	`poor old Kunal Plushybottoms`
`20:49.30`	`Kirkburn`	`Tis a great name :D`
`20:50.52`	`Kirkburn`	`This is type of of his screenshots which i hate: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Proudmoore1.jpg`
`20:51.07`	`Adys`	`heh`
`20:51.56`	`Adys`	`---> http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List - Now tis all pretty, everything not INV is done for good this time with correct caps where they have to be`
`20:52.00`	`Adys`	`AND! A shortcut`
`20:53.08`	`Adys`	`Good god..`
`20:53.12`	`Adys`	`2684 icons`
`20:53.15`	`Adys`	`and thats without bc`
`20:53.42`	`Teomyr`	`oO`
`20:54.14`	`Kirkburn`	`AND! A breadcrumb`
`20:54.42`	`Kirkburn`	`AND! A shortcut to WoW Icons :) Use [[WW:ICON]] :D`
`20:55.52`	`Adys`	`counted it`
`20:55.56`	`Adys`	`191 icons missing`
`20:56.07`	`Adys`	`wow, I was extremely close with my 93% estimation`
`20:56.12`	`Adys`	`its actually 94%.. I think`
`20:56.30`	`Adys`	`191 of 2684..`
`20:57.05`	`Fin`	`spiffy!`
`20:59.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Somehow, I have no idea how, there was no link to the Guidelines on the Main Page`
`21:00.08`	`Adys`	`Actually no, I'm at 92.88%`
`21:00.11`	`Adys`	`so yes, 93%`
`21:00.21`	`Adys`	`wow, Im proud!`
`21:01.16`	`Kirkburn`	`yay`
`21:01.30`	`Kirkburn`	`FINISH HIM!`
`21:01.43`	`Adys`	`191 icons left good god`
`21:01.56`	`Adys`	`go tell varghedin he has 191 npcs left on the list`
`21:02.02`	`Adys`	`and watch him commit suicide`
`21:02.39`	`Adys`	`the less there is on the list the more stressing it is`
`21:02.49`	`Adys`	`you do realize at some point we had 150-200 pngs on the wiki :D`
`21:05.01`	`Adys`	`Ok!`
`21:05.04`	`Adys`	`I give up on cleanups`
`21:05.09`	`Adys`	`I'm just gonna change png/jpg`
`21:05.16`	`Adys`	`I wanna finish this`
`21:06.51`	`Teomyr`	`wow, my wdb extension works oO`
`21:06.58`	`Fin`	`nift!`
`21:07.01`	`Teomyr`	`{{wdb/item:Runecloth\|de:Name}} => Runenstoff`
`21:07.07`	`Teomyr`	`german name for Runecloth`
`21:07.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys, delete the jpg images straight away if they're unused`
`21:08.14`	`Kirkburn`	`No need to add the SD template this time`
`21:08.22`	`Adys`	`Aye on it`
`21:08.52`	`Kirkburn`	`(but not as a general rule, this just saves me following you around the wiki :P)`
`21:09.05`	`Adys`	`Slacker :P`
`21:09.13`	`Adys`	`funnily enough its faster for me to add sd than to delete`
`21:09.22`	`Adys`	`because I anyways need to go in edit to copypaste [[Category:WoW Icons: Inventory Scarab]]`
`21:10.02`	`Kirkburn`	`:<`
`21:14.41`	`Adys`	`Lets buy rustak the domain www.slowwiki.com and redo the wiki under the wowwiki.com domain, but this time being able to access the server files`
`21:14.43`	`Adys`	`ok?`
`21:16.44`	`*** join/#wowwiki betawarz (n=betawarz@pool-70-104-31-226.dllstx.fios.verizon.net)`
`21:18.38`	`Teomyr`	`yeah, of course :D`
`21:22.05`	`*** join/#wowwiki MentalPower\|Univ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-116-177.onelinkpr.net)`
`21:25.57`	`Adys`	`Whats up with the retarded redirects in SD cat?`
`21:26.45`	`*** join/#wowwiki MentalPower\|Univ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-116-177.onelinkpr.net)`
`21:29.30`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Shield_35.jpg ffs @%!�`
`21:29.40`	`Adys`	`people keep uploading as jpg`
`21:29.58`	`Adys`	`Kirk can I ban them for one year?`
`21:30.24`	`Kirkburn`	`lol`
`21:30.59`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Weapon_Hand_08.jpg`
`21:31.01`	`Adys`	`two years sorry`
`21:31.05`	`Kirkburn`	`The PNG doesn't exist?`
`21:31.12`	`Adys`	`No`
`21:31.16`	`Adys`	`but its easily accessible`
`21:31.20`	`Adys`	`or use {{Icon needed}}`
`21:31.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah, TBC pics`
`21:31.45`	`Kirkburn`	`Leave them a note`
`21:33.01`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Jewelry_Amulet_07_15.jpg`
`21:33.05`	`Adys`	`CRUSH, DESTROY`
`21:33.09`	`Adys`	`whats that for anyways?`
`21:33.40`	`Teomyr`	`lol`
`21:33.41`	`Kirkburn`	`Gonna see if I can improve the upload dialogue further`
`21:34.35`	`Adys`	`lemme do that... "Every JPG Icon uploaded will be 1 year ban and law pursuits"`
`21:35.05`	`Teomyr`	`JPEG Icons will devour your soul`
`21:35.42`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys, can you improve http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons to give more info`
`21:35.55`	`Kirkburn`	`It should probably turned into a 'guideline' type page`
`21:36.08`	`Adys`	`mm`
`21:36.14`	`Adys`	`i finish Sword 05 and ill do it`
`21:36.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Ta`
`21:36.53`	`Kirkburn`	`Hmm, actually http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Image_guidelines already gives info`
`21:37.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys, the page needs tidying and a prominent link to the guidelines :P`
`21:38.19`	`Adys`	`Im not sure what tusva wanted to do with it`
`21:38.25`	`Adys`	`the table thing is weird`
`21:39.52`	`Teomyr`	`do you think what's nice? having spent all day writing a WDB parser and finding out that you need a DBC parser, too!`
`21:40.01`	`Adys`	`haha`
`21:40.09`	`Adys`	`btw teomyr`
`21:40.42`	`Adys`	`if you find a solid converter, dbc>csv>dbc`
`21:40.43`	`Adys`	`poke me`
`21:40.48`	`Adys`	`I need one =P`
`21:40.55`	`Teomyr`	`dbc>csv>dbc?`
`21:40.59`	`Teomyr`	`why would you need that?`
`21:41.05`	`Teomyr`	`hax?`
`21:41.20`	`Adys`	`Attracts girls more easily`
`21:41.24`	`Adys`	`but shh.`
`21:41.26`	`Teomyr`	`aah, nice`
`21:43.49`	`Kirkburn`	`Updated: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Upload`
`21:44.21`	`Adys`	`sounds decent`
`21:45.30`	`Teomyr`	`can't see a difference`
`21:45.43`	`Teomyr`	`but that's because it's the german version :P`
`21:47.31`	`Adys`	`Im not sure what to say`
`21:47.33`	`Adys`	`== Icons in World of Warcraft ==`
`21:47.33`	`Adys`	`The game uses for spells and items a few thousand different icons. Each of them is stored within the [[MPQ]]s and is accessible on certain database websites such as [[Allakhazam]].`
`21:47.33`	`Adys`	`Every icon has most of the time multiple uses, and for this reason they need, when uploaded on WoWWiki, to strictly keep the same name as the one given in the data files.`
`21:53.18`	`Kirkburn`	`I've expanded the image guidelines: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Image_guidelines`
`21:56.02`	`Adys`	`To upload an icon on the Wiki, first download it from a site such as [[Allakhazam]] or [[Wowhead]]. Right click the icon and save it, keeping the exact name it had when selected. Once that is done, go to [[Special:Upload]]. As destination filename, keep the exact name of the icon. Remember to verify its extension is .png, that its size is 64x64, and that it doesn't already exist.`
`21:56.02`	`Adys`	`If you do not wish to go through these troubles when creating a spell or item page, use the template {{tlink\|Icon needed}} and another [[WoWWikian]] will eventually update it.`
`21:56.02`	`Adys`	`{{AlsoSee\|WoWWiki:Image guidelines}}`
`21:57.05`	`Adys`	`Aight updated, ran out of inspiration`
`22:01.25`	`Adys`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List - 168 left :) :) :)`
`22:01.29`	`Adys`	`Come on.`
`22:06.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Delicate_Copper_Wire`
`22:06.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Nearly there!`
`22:06.40`	`Kirkburn`	`TBC won't have as many, I'm sure :)`
`22:10.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Adys, updated http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons with a note about TBC`
`22:11.01`	`Adys`	`Fixed, kirk`
`22:11.11`	`Adys`	`ah aye thanks btw`
`22:11.29`	`Adys`	`though most of them are already in game with 2.0`
`22:11.35`	`Adys`	`but aye`
`22:11.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Woo, new template for the copper wire :D`
`22:11.49`	`Adys`	`Aye \o�`
`22:11.54`	`Adys`	`Bah`
`22:11.57`	`Adys`	`\o/`
`22:12.09`	`Adys`	`it looks pretty tbh :-P`
`22:12.25`	`Kirkburn`	`Looks awesome :P`
`22:12.34`	`Adys`	`oh god lol`
`22:13.04`	`*** part/#wowwiki Garthnait\|afk (n=test@dslb-084-058-177-174.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`22:18.21`	`Kirkburn`	`??`
`22:18.39`	`Adys`	`Just happy with the template =P`
`22:20.49`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`22:22.06`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm liking the greeting thing at the top right =) http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page`
`22:22.14`	`Kirkburn`	`Gives me a chance to make the front pace 'nicer'`
`22:22.23`	`Adys`	`Stole your idea for my userpage =P`
`22:23.05`	`Kirkburn`	`:D`
`22:23.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Ooh, good idea at top left`
`22:23.38`	`Adys`	`it needs to be done with the feeling at the top left`
`22:23.47`	`Adys`	`because there is the "Editing ..." before the text`
`22:23.51`	`Adys`	`and it makes it overlap`
`22:23.58`	`Adys`	`and not be actually where it should be`
`22:27.32`	`Kirkburn`	`^^ http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn`
`22:29.16`	`Kirkburn`	`I reckon it needs an overhaul anyway`
`22:35.21`	`Adys`	`pfft ;P`
`22:48.40`	`Adys`	`Aight, I'm off... More icons tomorrow`
`22:48.48`	`Adys`	`gn all =)`
`23:03.26`	`Teomyr`	`Fin: i've written a dbc parser if you're interested`
`23:03.44`	`Teomyr`	`Fin: starting to rewrite the wdb one now`
`23:08.09`	`Fin`	`I am interested, yes (although I know Adys is particularly interested, he's been asking me about one for months)`
`23:08.49`	`Kirkburn`	`Tadaa! http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn`
`23:10.08`	`Fin`	`and proud of it!`
`23:10.32`	`Teomyr`	`:D`
`23:11.15`	`Teomyr`	`i've just produced another bug i'll need to fix before i can send it to you`
`23:11.36`	`Teomyr`	`Fatal error: Exception thrown without a stack frame in Unknown on line 0`
`23:11.50`	`Teomyr`	`i've rarely seen such a helpfull message...`
`23:12.00`	`Teomyr`	`s/helpfull/helpful/`
`23:14.51`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`god Kirkburn I LOOOOOOVE your new User Page`
`23:14.55`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`it so reflects the truth!`
`23:15.09`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm fixing it up more :)`
`23:15.34`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`But all those talk pages are redirecting to your talk page? Shouldn't they redirect to http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Patrigan ?`
`23:15.57`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`GAH ><`
`23:16.04`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`give me link to our IRC`
`23:16.18`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`for some reason I can NEVER find the link and I'm too lazy to remember it >.>`
`23:17.21`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`btw since I'll be gone tonight`
`23:17.26`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`HAPPPY 2007 GUYS!`
`23:17.48`	`Kirkburn`	`Patrigan-Syldra, look at my talk page`
`23:17.54`	`Kirkburn`	`The link is there :P`
`23:19.11`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Oahkoah#Thanks_for_doing_the_TCG_Abilities`
`23:19.21`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`so what do you think, is it a positive encouragement?`
`23:19.27`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`or should I fix some things up?`
`23:19.50`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`saw the player doing a nice job on some stuff on my to-do list, so I thought I'd throw him a good word`
`23:20.00`	`Kirkburn`	`Good idea`
`23:20.44`	`Teomyr`	`Fin: http://www.simonveith.de/WoWParser.php`
`23:21.06`	`Teomyr`	`Fin: get it while it's hot, i'll probably delete it from my webspace soon :P`
`23:22.44`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Preferences_page_style_problems that really saddens me >.>`
`23:22.50`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`the fact that we can't fix it...`
`23:22.54`	`Fin`	`ta!`
`23:22.56`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`or can we? oO`
`23:23.09`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`without rustak that is >.>`
`23:23.43`	`Teomyr`	`its fixed on my wiki :P http://simonveith.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Main_Page`
`23:23.48`	`Teomyr`	`needs some changes to the css`
`23:24.05`	`Teomyr`	`don't know whether we can do that, we'll probably need rustak`
`23:24.46`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`grmmmbmmlblbl`
`23:25.11`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`*insert most angry murloc sound, or for the emo amongst us, Murky/Gurky sound"`
`23:25.15`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`*`
`23:28.46`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`hmmm`
`23:28.53`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`how can I count the amount of edits I did?`
`23:33.03`	`Teomyr`	`user contributions`
`23:33.56`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`doesn't really say a count now does it? >.>`
`23:34.38`	`Teomyr`	`well`
`23:35.11`	`Teomyr`	`but you can, for example, click on "show 100"`
`23:35.23`	`Teomyr`	`and then count how many pages you can click through`
`23:36.16`	`Patrigan-Syldra`	`gah quit outsmarting me!`
`23:37.53`	`Teomyr`	`xD`
`23:48.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Question! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Community_teams#Rehash.21`
`23:53.40`	`Kirkburn`	`I want to cut down the amount of adminy stuff around`
`23:53.56`	`Kirkburn`	`Gonna have a ball when I start deleting news articles :P`

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