| 00:00.50 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: they sort of admit to already having sold the data |
| 00:00.59 | kullervo | discord, I mean |
| 00:09.30 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: credential reuse is bad, hmkay |
| 00:11.12 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i learned that the hard way years ago lol |
| 00:12.13 | kullervo | I use the same credential everywhere ._. |
| 00:12.20 | Mr_Rabies | not the hardest way, thankfully, but i still get targeted occasionally by various groups and one of my old passwords i did reuse a lot is definitely floating around in a commonly passed-around list |
| 00:12.22 | kullervo | it's my password manager's, though |
| 00:21.33 | Mr_Rabies | but tbh the great thing about irc is that any community could pretty easily set up their own server for practically nothing and not have to worry about what's going on with the organization running the server |
| 00:22.33 | Mr_Rabies | i'm on another server run by the guy that made a very basic daemon and it seems pretty dang simple to use, though you'd probably want something with more features for a public-facing community unless you wanted to go totally hands-off |
| 00:22.44 | Mr_Rabies | https://github.com/raws/hector |
| 00:23.44 | kullervo | it's fairly trivial to install ircd |
| 00:27.53 | Gnarfoz | Cool project (too bad it's ruby :P) |
| 00:28.03 | Mr_Rabies | he's all about that ruby lol |
| 00:28.55 | Gnarfoz | But yeah, same reason we use TS instead of Discord: it's ours. |
| 00:29.07 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's why he's as successful as he is, he jumped on at a time where it was fairly new and in high demand and he knew it well, and a company he helped found is now doing pretty well financially and him with it |
| 00:29.53 | Mr_Rabies | my guild use(d) discord before it blew up over stupid crap earlier this year, but mostly because it was convenient and replaced a lot of things at once, and there was much less troubleshooting to get people onboard |
| 00:30.25 | Mr_Rabies | it kind of negated the need for a guild website that no one used, voice server, and people could chat offline |
| 00:30.43 | Mr_Rabies | er outside of wow |
| 00:30.50 | Gnarfoz | ye |
| 00:31.24 | Mr_Rabies | but like, that's really its only use, i would never use discord for discussing anything remotely controversial or trust it with anything i put on there |
| 00:57.28 | znf | Discord is just pretty and useful |
| 00:57.38 | znf | If you could self-host Discord, it'd be amazing |
| 01:11.23 | Mr_Rabies | to an extent, if it was also possible to connect to it with an irc server etc |
| 01:13.03 | Mr_Rabies | er client |
| 01:17.07 | znf | yeah, they had a gateway for ages |
| 01:17.09 | znf | don't they anymore? |
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| 03:04.38 | Corrodias | and there's the notice |
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| 10:08.37 | casperstorm | Are we moving to libera? |
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| 10:44.29 | Gnarfoz | Strawpoll? ð¤ |
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| 16:11.25 | Kemayo | My job's channels are moving there, so I have to be there, so it's no extra hassle for me if this channel does as well. :D |
| 16:11.49 | Kemayo | There's currently 4 people sitting in #wowuidev on libera. |
| 16:13.04 | Kemayo | It's been a while since I've had to watch the complex negotiations of handing over ops during a network transfer... |
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| 18:46.20 | Treeston | i've noticed that GetInstanceInfo() does not return accurate data in PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD (in particular, it appears to return difficultyid 0) |
| 18:46.33 | Treeston | at what point while zoning into an instance does it start returning accurate data? |
| 18:47.10 | Treeston | is there any connection to UPDATE_INSTANCE_INFO (which documentation suggests is only related to RequestRaidInfo, which i understand to request saved lockouts, rather thatn information about the current instance?) |
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| 19:50.13 | A-KO | we moving over to libera? |
| 19:54.39 | pompy | WHY IS EVERYONE ASKING THAT!? |
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| 20:23.42 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> IRC Poll: https://bit.ly/3oyy72S Please vote |
| 20:24.23 | Cairenn | Posted a thread & poll asking what people want to do about this whole situation with Freenode having been sold. Please go vote on what you want to do. https://bit.ly/3oyy72S |
| 20:28.32 | Funkeh` | From what I saw in their official announcement, nothing. Seems like overblown e-drama |
| 20:29.03 | Cairenn | well, I'm leaving it up to the community on what we want to do moving forward - go vote |
| 20:58.55 | znf | well, you put up a poll for people that don't actually use IRC :) |
| 21:04.26 | Cairenn | No, I put up a poll for the people in this channel |
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| 21:12.56 | znf | Who are the 5 people who voted for "kill irc"? :P |
| 21:14.12 | nevcairiel | I did, this place has been largely dead or random banter |
| 21:14.46 | AcidWeb | i did too |
| 21:14.49 | nevcairiel | the one addon related topic per month .. no reason to not just consolidate to discord |
| 21:31.39 | Gnarfoz | apart from it being Discord, but I get the attraction :p |
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| 21:37.33 | Ennea | hm |
| 21:37.50 | Ennea | makes sense, i suppose. i won't follow to discord, though |
| 21:39.46 | Gnarfoz | it's this one, right? https://discord.gg/EzVAn4k4 or this one? https://discord.gg/EzeMNtXJ |
| 21:41.32 | Gnarfoz | https://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651&highlight=discord first one it is |
| 21:41.57 | Gnarfoz | is one stuck with these random links? |
| 21:42.10 | Gnarfoz | let me guess... picking your own costs money? :P |
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| 21:42.52 | nevcairiel | The first one is more UI dev focused, the other one is more open to users |
| 21:43.00 | nevcairiel | so yeah the first one is where we are at |
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| 21:45.16 | Gnarfoz | interesting. I was always confused how I ended up being in two such servers. who's this keyboard;<japanes stuff> edition person? anyone from here? |
| 21:46.02 | Gnarfoz | (I mean, being able to edit typos like that would almost be worth moving to Discord. Too bad IRCv3 is taking so long. :P) |
| 22:05.57 | Stanzilla | ircv3 is a meme |
| 22:07.11 | Ennea | ircv3 is a godsend |
| 22:10.39 | Stanzilla | ò,ó |
| 22:10.52 | Ennea | :3 |
| 22:11.03 | Ennea | i like my server timestamps, thank you very much |
| 22:37.25 | Mr_Rabies | if you do end up moving on to somewhere else you could always see if anyone else wants to take care of moderating this channel instead of strictly closing it since it's not exactly wowi-specific, Cairenn |
| 22:38.22 | Mr_Rabies | and just moving the more official one elsewhere, the one you link to on wowi, etc (if that's the way it goes) |
| 22:40.13 | Cairenn | It doesn't really bother me to keep moderating it, it's not like it's an incredibly busy channel any more. I'm just putting the poll up because a lot of people are really upset about the entire situation with Freenode, so I wanted to give the community the chance to say what they want. |
| 22:42.48 | Mr_Rabies | definitely doesn't hurt to ask |
| 22:44.06 | Mr_Rabies | i just joined the discord and dang that's interesting that the irc bridge actually just says the username, the other bridges i've seen all start from a bot named "Bridge" or something |
| 23:45.07 | pompy | probably already posted , but yeah ... https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-korea-crown-prince-takeover |
| 23:47.13 | Cairenn | Yup, whole reason for the poll |
| 23:54.49 | nebula | and that is why everyone is asking about moving to libera :p |
| 23:57.35 | Cairenn | precisely |
| 23:58.08 | Cairenn | but I also wanted to offer the option of just moving to discord and getting rid of IRC entirely as yet another alternative |
| 23:58.40 | Cairenn | I have no particular need to get rid of IRC, I'm old-school |
| 23:59.03 | Mr_Rabies | return to traditionl, all go back to ircnet |
| 23:59.53 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno where that l came from |