| 00:02.29 | Semlar | someone get Crosshash back in here, i have a grievance to file about these mixed tabs and spaces |
| 00:06.27 | Semlar | i can't believe you let them get away with this foxlit |
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| 02:31.18 | Chipzz | godamnit |
| 02:31.40 | Chipzz | where did MacUseCommandAsControl go?? :S |
| 02:32.19 | Chipzz | that being gone will be a huge PITA |
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| 02:49.19 | Ketho | I'm more bothered by FrameXML\Constants.lua and Blizzard_Communities\ClubFinderApplicantList.lua having UTF-8 BOM encoding |
| 02:49.36 | Ketho | Mikk's findglobals script doesn't like that for some reason |
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| 03:01.18 | Chipzz | being able to use cmd as ctrl is a gameplay issue; cmd is the key right next to the spacebar |
| 03:01.35 | Chipzz | that option being removed is the same as Blizzard ripping the alt keys of your keyboard |
| 03:02.14 | Chipzz | (being put in terms of non-mac keyboards, so sth you as a windows user can relate to) |
| 03:02.55 | Chipzz | my 2nd actionbar uses ctrl for the keybinding, so essentially I've lost my 2nd action bar |
| 03:03.06 | Chipzz | that's not a minor deal :P |
| 03:05.01 | Ketho | MacUseCommandAsControl must have been gone for a very long time |
| 03:05.08 | Chipzz | no |
| 03:05.15 | Chipzz | it worked until yesterday |
| 03:05.27 | Ketho | ow it's first time I hear of it |
| 03:05.29 | Chipzz | it's the prepatch that removed it |
| 03:07.43 | Chipzz | MacUseCommandAsControl is the CVar, so it's not just the GUI for it that's gone |
| 03:08.32 | Ketho | maybe they want you to switch to gamepad x) |
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| 05:32.53 | Semlar | i like that they moved most of the existing quest log functions into the C_QuestLog namespace, but also introduced 2 new GetQuest.. functions and didn't put them under it |
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| 07:35.50 | AcidWeb | foxlit: I would suggest to not mark files for both 9.0.1 and 8.3.0 on Curseforge. |
| 07:36.22 | AcidWeb | Interface allows that but everything else - Twitch Client including - don't handle it correctly. |
| 07:36.39 | nebula | interface is a dropdown now |
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| 07:37.32 | AcidWeb | ok maybe they fixed it on interface side |
| 07:37.42 | AcidWeb | still double tagging files is no-no |
| 07:38.01 | nebula | their api still allows it, though, i should probably fix that with my packager |
| 07:38.31 | nebula | /with/in/ |
| 07:38.41 | AcidWeb | Double tagging retail release create just some cosmetic problems. |
| 07:38.55 | AcidWeb | But if you double tag retail/classic release. |
| 07:38.57 | AcidWeb | Oh boy. |
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| 08:06.32 | foxlit | I don't think they can fail in a way that I care about. |
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| 08:08.14 | nevcairiel | if you tag it for classic you seem to at least care a bit about classic, which the client wouldnt necessarily install it on then |
| 08:08.44 | nevcairiel | because the API only has one "flavor" field, which can either be classic or retail, but not both |
| 08:12.36 | foxlit | that sounds like somebody else's problem. |
| 08:13.19 | foxlit | sigh, sniped by https://www.curseforge.com/data-transfer-information |
| 08:14.11 | foxlit | "If you donât provide consent, all attribution on your projects and public posts will be removed and replaced with âForge_User_[RandomNumber]â." << cowards. |
| 08:17.35 | foxlit | how long do they intend to squat on broken content, I wonder? |
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| 08:23.59 | nebula | probably indefinitely |
| 08:24.47 | Semlar | i've personally managed to ignore broken content for years |
| 08:25.06 | Semlar | i'm still using curseforge |
| 08:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | in the US, it's opt-out, not opt-in |
| 08:27.01 | Mr_Rabies | and i definitely opted out lol |
| 08:27.51 | foxlit | can you see your opt-in state somewhere? |
| 08:28.19 | Mr_Rabies | i found it, let me see |
| 08:28.34 | Mr_Rabies | settings page, twitch account tab |
| 08:28.39 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.curseforge.com/account |
| 08:28.44 | foxlit | just a giant "Manage Twitch Account" button |
| 08:28.54 | Mr_Rabies | "You are currently opted out from transferring your account to Overwolf. If you wish to keep your account, access to projects, and other CurseForge services, please revisit the |
| 08:28.54 | Mr_Rabies | FAQ page." |
| 08:29.07 | Mr_Rabies | below that, for me |
| 08:30.58 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.42 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, not there, for you |
| 08:32.48 | Semlar | i also just have a big twitch button |
| 08:32.54 | Mr_Rabies | it would be below the huge twitch button if you opted out |
| 08:33.09 | Semlar | i haven't selected either option |
| 08:33.55 | nebula | maybe you need to hit a button on that info site first |
| 08:34.08 | Mr_Rabies | you do, at least in the US |
| 08:34.32 | Mr_Rabies | some other places are opt-in, but US is opt-out for sure |
| 08:36.46 | Semlar | i'm not sure i understand why they would remove your name from your projects if you choose to opt out |
| 08:37.08 | Semlar | maybe they don't realize the implications |
| 08:37.40 | Mr_Rabies | not realizing things seems to be overwolf's primary thing |
| 08:37.54 | foxlit | meh, twitch has a history of this bullshit. |
| 08:38.27 | Mr_Rabies | they're definitely not immune to it either, for sure |
| 08:38.37 | foxlit | see: wowpedia's butchered page histories, numerous _ForgeUser1234567 accounts that already exist. |
| 08:39.37 | Semlar | it's probably a GDPR thing |
| 08:39.50 | foxlit | GDPR does not require /this/. |
| 08:41.06 | Semlar | your username counts as personal data and telling them you don't want to transfer your account information over could require them to not copy your name over |
| 08:41.53 | nebula | it's not quite that cut and dry |
| 08:42.08 | foxlit | your username is not personal data. |
| 08:42.36 | foxlit | (nor is consent the only basis of information processing) |
| 08:42.53 | Semlar | it's not consent, you're explicitly telling them you don't want to copy your account information over |
| 08:43.14 | Semlar | your only choices are "do it" or "don't do it" |
| 08:43.52 | foxlit | and they still have to implement the give me all your data/correct that/delete this mechanisms separately. |
| 08:45.30 | foxlit | my choices seem to be "do it" and "do it anyway, but block me from accessing my account, remove attribution, and still fail to remove my 'personally identifying username' because that's in the downloads" |
| 08:48.16 | Semlar | i like how this page https://www.curseforge.com/data-transfer-information notes that "You may opt out by [opt-out mechanism]" |
| 08:48.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's been like that for months |
| 08:48.38 | Mr_Rabies | since they announced it |
| 08:49.10 | foxlit | is that the right link? |
| 08:49.18 | foxlit | (because I cannot ctrl+f your text) |
| 08:50.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.29 | foxlit | hm |
| 08:50.57 | Ennea | i don't have that text on there either |
| 08:51.07 | Semlar | they may be serving different text based on your geolocation |
| 08:51.12 | Mr_Rabies | definitely |
| 08:51.17 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/4bvqr4v8.png |
| 08:51.26 | foxlit | (but also section order is wrong) |
| 08:52.42 | Mr_Rabies | they have seperate opt-in and opt-out copy based on region |
| 08:52.54 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.31 | Mr_Rabies | the way that loaded at first reminded me of the haunted araki donut picture back in the day |
| 08:54.45 | Mr_Rabies | https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/443/255/3cc.png the original jpg version of this loaded really slowly back on ancient internet, and had a huge filesize, so lots of people thought it was a virus |
| 08:55.01 | Mr_Rabies | but it's really just because of the scan dithering blasting the file size to the stratosphere |
| 08:55.19 | Ennea | o.O |
| 08:55.58 | Mr_Rabies | you used to be able to embed files within images on 4chan though, to be fair |
| 08:56.16 | Semlar | i think i missed this meme |
| 08:56.23 | Mr_Rabies | people used to include music tracks and whatnot into images with a command line thing where you embedded rars and stuff |
| 08:56.29 | Ennea | you say that like embedding archives into images stopped being possible at some point |
| 08:56.45 | Mr_Rabies | it is on current 4chan, i believe, at least common archive formats |
| 08:56.58 | Mr_Rabies | i think they get stripped out nowadays |
| 08:57.07 | Ennea | and the "command line thing" for that is literally `cat file1 file2 > out` |
| 08:57.17 | Ennea | because the browser will still handle that gracefully |
| 08:57.33 | Ennea | and.. i guess winrar will just go through the file until it finds a valid header |
| 08:57.41 | Ennea | not sure if 7z does the same |
| 08:57.49 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i did it a few times as a proof of concept back in the day, neat stuff |
| 08:58.07 | Ennea | yup, fun to play with |
| 08:58.47 | Mr_Rabies | the virus thing was like, 2004-2006 era 4chan i think, and there was a case of an actual virus using similar stuff but you had to rename an image to an .hta file for it to work |
| 08:59.58 | Ennea | so essentially a manual virus |
| 09:00.21 | Mr_Rabies | the perfect one to target 4chan, to be fair |
| 09:01.03 | Mr_Rabies | at least back then, it was full of tech savvy-enough nerds who think they could control such a thing |
| 09:01.31 | Mr_Rabies | i think it just flooded 4chan with the image but it could have done much worse, back in the days of windows xp |
| 09:02.37 | foxlit | on an unrelated note, the garrison mission enemy mechanics return value changed from being a type ID => info table map to an array. |
| 09:03.41 | Mr_Rabies | all i use my garrison for is remembering like twice a year i still don't have soulaire |
| 09:03.49 | Mr_Rabies | going to the inn and trying to get him |
| 09:04.48 | foxlit | To be entirely fair, the function returning that was also renamed, but the obvious correction has existing code happily consuming wrong data. |
| 09:07.06 | Semlar | that's how they get you |
| 09:13.54 | foxlit | that's how they got me. |
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| 15:43.14 | AcidWeb | Login servers went to shadowlands first. |
| 15:43.20 | foxlit | psst, bosnian southern front > prepatch. |
| 15:44.05 | AcidWeb | bosnian southern front definitely have more content. |
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