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| 20:13.19 | Gnarfoz | what's annoying about it? (surprise is PoV dependent) |
| 20:13.26 | Gnarfoz | clonezilla that shit |
| 20:24.17 | foxlit | Let's put it this way: a good solution would be a button in whatever passes for the control panel these days labelled "Transfer System Partition", which would ask you "where?", then do the thing and reboot you into the transferred system. |
| 20:27.12 | foxlit | "here download this third-party iso off the interwebs, put it on some media, boot from it, clone some partitions, and then figure out how you broke boot/bcd/recovery and fix those" isn't great. |
| 20:30.17 | nevcairiel | its almost as if thats a task 99.5% of users will never want to do, and thus no development time is allocated to it |
| 20:30.51 | foxlit | and yet every patch brings new and innovative ways to shove Edge in your face. |
| 20:31.22 | nevcairiel | that seems rather unrelated to the topic at hand |
| 20:31.55 | foxlit | "most users don't want this" isn't a requirement for implemented functionality. |
| 20:32.15 | nevcairiel | sure it is |
| 20:32.22 | nevcairiel | thats just smart business |
| 20:32.50 | nevcairiel | there is two reasons to impleemnt something; you want the users to use it, or the users want to use it |
| 20:35.05 | foxlit | I don't know what I want from an operating system, but I don't think Microsoft has delivered anything in the last several years. |
| 20:35.41 | Ennea | they're currently delivering a new terminal emulator which i really like ;p |
| 20:36.09 | foxlit | my terminal runs on another os :) |
| 20:36.37 | Ennea | i used to run terminator via wsl, but windows terminal is looking better and better with every release |
| 20:36.46 | foxlit | but this entire transfer-a-disk process has been one failure after another |
| 20:37.03 | Ennea | what process now? |
| 20:37.15 | foxlit | I moved a system partition from one ssd to another ssd. |
| 20:37.45 | Ennea | didn't work well? |
| 20:38.14 | foxlit | "wait, why do I have two recovery partitions, and no recovery options?" |
| 20:38.30 | foxlit | "well, win10 has a recovery media creation tool that can make a bootable usb stick" -> nope. |
| 20:38.46 | Ennea | hm :/ |
| 20:39.05 | foxlit | "fine, I'll download the installer, which can make a bootable usb stick because reasons" -> okay, fine, that boots. |
| 20:42.03 | foxlit | spend an hour with a low-resolution command prompt window |
| 20:43.18 | nebula | i went to install a new boot drive and found out that windows had added a recovery partition at the end of the disk so i couldn't just expand the partition |
| 20:43.50 | nebula | never did find a way to extend the first recovery partition so i just deleted the second and moved on with life |
| 20:43.56 | foxlit | between diskpart, dism and bcdedit/bootrec, eventually re-created the efi system partition, the MSR partition, the actual system data partition, and the recovery partition |
| 20:45.52 | foxlit | regedit to swap drive letters; booted fine but couldn't access its own bcd store. |
| 20:46.25 | foxlit | more recovery shenanigans to fix that and reactive the recovery options. |
| 20:48.36 | foxlit | error messages throughout are generally crap: variations on "something went wrong" in user-facing dialogs, and perhaps most hilariously just "Access Denied." from a bootrec /fixboot. |
| 20:49.39 | foxlit | (while running from installation media) |
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| 20:55.08 | foxlit | what's annoying is that they basically have all the tools necessary to make this work, but the documentation is fragmented and aimed at a slightly different audience. |
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| 20:56.39 | Yuyuli | it's actually pretty simple to fix up your copy, but if you don't know how i guess not |
| 20:57.12 | Yuyuli | also remember this for next time, bcdboot |
| 20:58.01 | foxlit | I'm pretty sure I also used that and already forgot about it. |
| 21:04.10 | foxlit | (I also remember it getting into a state where it was confused by multiple bcd stores -- one on the old and one on the new drive) |
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