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| 00:28.41 | foxlit | ... the Nier 5.3 raid achievement is literally called "Uncanny Valley" |
| 00:33.31 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:47.53 | Gnarfoz | ACTIVATE WINDOWS |
| 19:48.01 | Gnarfoz | also what do those two games have to do with each other? |
| 19:51.21 | foxlit | Would it make you happier if they were set in the same universe? |
| 19:56.46 | Gnarfoz | I don't now? |
| 19:56.51 | Gnarfoz | +k |
| 19:57.15 | foxlit | xiv is relatively flexible in that regard - space and time travel are canon, and there is a multiverse thing going on. This also isn't the first time something squareenixy comes tumbling out of some unknown rift in space and time. |
| 19:57.18 | Gnarfoz | I know next to nothing about either game, except that one is an MMO and the other exists :D |
| 19:58.03 | Gnarfoz | ah, both have the same publisher |
| 19:58.52 | foxlit | I don't think that's a hard requirement for ff crossovers, but it probably helps. |
| 19:59.44 | Gnarfoz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nier:_Automata#In_other_media I guess this tells me enough to understand |
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| 20:13.07 | Meorawr | Crosshash: On the 9.0 client it seems that chat bubbles have a forbidden child frame, even outside of instances - is this intended? |
| 20:13.09 | Meorawr | https://gist.github.com/Meorawr/22fe998d8c359d9b19f73e58adbf34b5 |
| 20:13.18 | Meorawr | Doesn't seem to be the case on 8.3. |
| 20:16.21 | Crosshash | I'll ask |
| 20:22.25 | Crosshash | Oh, that's the backdrop |
| 20:24.39 | Crosshash | Is the forbidden causing problems? |
| 20:24.55 | Meorawr | Apparently makes skinning chat bubbles harder, or something along those lines. |
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| 20:27.27 | Crosshash | You could skin chat bubbles? |
| 20:28.20 | Meorawr | I'm not too sure on the specifics - I'm more just relaying what someone else noticed and wanted querying :p I'll probe a bit. |
| 20:30.58 | Gnarfoz | what *can't* you skin? :> (the shop, probably) |
| 20:31.40 | Meorawr | Yeah - so ElvUI has a module for skinning chat bubbles that, among other things, appears to change the backdrop on them. |
| 20:32.00 | Meorawr | So presumably if that forbidden frame is the backdrop in 9.0 then that'd be what's breaking for them. |
| 20:33.21 | Gnarfoz | (quick search suggests that they are/were protected in instances already, requiring overlaying texture files?) |
| 20:33.54 | AcidWeb | Yes. Replacing them in instances require replacing the textures. |
| 20:34.19 | Meorawr | Yeah, the odd behaviour is that in 9.0 the bubble frame itself isn't forbidden outside of instances, but the child backdrop frame is. |
| 20:36.38 | Meorawr | If it were consistent such that the parent/child were fully forbidden in instances, and not forbidden outside of instances that'd solve their issue. |
| 20:37.00 | Meorawr | Or the pipe dream of not being forbidden anywhere of course ;) |
| 20:37.56 | Ennea | yea, i was about to ask.. why _are_ they forbidden in instances? |
| 20:37.58 | Ennea | that seems weird |
| 20:38.08 | Crosshash | People keep trying to do naughty things |
| 20:38.21 | Ennea | like what? |
| 20:38.56 | Gnarfoz | drawing lines between them |
| 20:39.03 | Meorawr | It's slightly weirder with friendly nameplates not being forbidden in instances in 9.0 when chat bubbles still (I guess?) are, but I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth there. |
| 20:39.15 | Gnarfoz | to trivialize raid mechanics |
| 20:39.19 | Gnarfoz | and stuff like that |
| 20:39.43 | Ennea | i thought raid mechanics are already trivial? ;p |
| 20:40.46 | AcidWeb | Ennea: Same thing that was done with friendly nameplates. |
| 20:41.13 | Ennea | well, that's pretty lame |
| 20:43.47 | Stanzilla | they dropped so many restrictions on the friendly nameplates that you are getting that again anyway |
| 20:44.13 | Meorawr | Ah, but we're all going to sign an agreement to be good citizens and not do naughty things this time. |
| 20:44.38 | AcidWeb | Tell that to Russians. |
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| 20:44.50 | Stanzilla | I've seen the working radars already :D |
| 20:51.59 | Chipzz | Shadowlands pre-patch PTR up it seems. Or well, world server down, but that will get fixed I suppose :) |
| 20:52.39 | Stanzilla | thanks for noticing |
| 20:53.00 | AcidWeb | Last time I checked PTR was testing pre-melting. |
| 20:53.13 | Chipzz | Crosshash: are we going to get any advance notice on the pre-patch event going live? I believer either the transmog or the auctioneer mount or going to become unobtanium, would be nice to still get them before that |
| 20:53.39 | Meorawr | I think you got vague advance notice a few weeks ago |
| 20:53.42 | Chipzz | Stanzilla: I suppose most people here know but some don't |
| 20:53.49 | Meorawr | No committed date but that'll be given eventually. |
| 20:54.04 | Crosshash | Sorry, that's not my area |
| 20:54.18 | Chipzz | Stanzilla: if you're aware, good for you. Just mentioning it here for those who weren't aware |
| 20:54.44 | Stanzilla | :thumbs_up: |
| 20:55.43 | Chipzz | I didn't notice it in the b.net launcher, I only noticed due to a mmoc or wh post on FB |
| 20:57.20 | Mr_Rabies | i actually got an email, which is pretty rare |
| 20:57.31 | Mr_Rabies | they really want to test the pre-patch event and stuff it seems |
| 20:57.45 | Meorawr | I'd assume 8 weeks. |
| 20:58.36 | Mr_Rabies | sounds waaaay too soon looking at the state of things but you might be right, that'd put things in early october |
| 20:58.52 | Chipzz | on a separate note, does anyknow know which of the mounts was going to become unobtanium? the treansmog one or the auction one? |
| 20:58.58 | Mr_Rabies | one of my guildies is saying 3 weeks and i definitely don't think it'll be that soon lol :v |
| 20:59.03 | Mr_Rabies | auction one |
| 20:59.07 | Mr_Rabies | the 5 mil longboi |
| 20:59.11 | Chipzz | yeah |
| 20:59.21 | Chipzz | expensive |
| 20:59.35 | Chipzz | don't have that amount of gold but considering buying tokens for it |
| 20:59.43 | Chipzz | although even then it would still be expensive AF |
| 20:59.59 | AcidWeb | AH mount is one of biggest QOL in this game. |
| 21:00.17 | AcidWeb | Just sell kidneys of ppl that disappoint you during raiding. |
| 21:01.19 | Mr_Rabies | or just give up a profession and get engineering, assuming they have one in spookytown |
| 21:01.20 | foxlit | That really depends on how frequently you need the AH |
| 21:01.54 | AcidWeb | yeah engineering AH is already implemented in new hub |
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