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| 15:32.35 | Stanzilla | . |
| 15:32.52 | Stanzilla | man I thought the bridge was broken again but you guys just don't talk anymore |
| 15:36.16 | nevcairiel | dont spam! |
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| 16:39.06 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.05 | znf | I wonder how come blizzard hasn't cracked down on "dalaran wow" yet |
| 16:47.12 | znf | Those guys have copied everything |
| 16:48.19 | znf | They even seem to ask for money for "instant 70" and customizations or recruit-a-friend |
| 16:50.21 | znf | Not to mention their website and even "account management" area |
| 16:54.15 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla it's the dry patch, nothing unusual really |
| 16:55.01 | Funkeh` | even the discord is quiet |
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| 17:14.03 | cirdan | dalaran wow? |
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| 17:18.13 | foxlit | a non-official wow server on 3.3.5. |
| 17:18.48 | foxlit | (the website, which you can google, clones the entire old battle.net design) |
| 17:21.40 | Chipzz | a sad aspect of servers like that is that they're based on an Open Source project and that they charge money while not contributing back any of the fixes |
| 17:26.16 | cirdan | ah |
| 17:26.34 | cirdan | well a big part of it is the boss scripts/mechanics |
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| 17:59.09 | znf | Gethe_, iz broken |
| 17:59.41 | znf | Gethe_, https://pastie.dev/SFglsw.properties |
| 18:03.26 | znf | I've no idea what happened recently, but my camera speed in WoW is suddenly at warp factor 9 when I rotate with the mouse |
| 18:03.59 | foxlit | always, or just sometimes? |
| 18:05.06 | znf | always, both on retail and ptr |
| 18:06.33 | znf | started happening after a reboot on the weekend |
| 18:11.38 | znf | that reminds me, there was a windows update waiting when I had to reboot |
| 18:24.54 | Gethe_ | znf: yeah blizz changed all of the dialog frame titles and I haven't had a chance to get on ptr to test. |
| 18:25.25 | znf | can I help? |
| 18:27.09 | Gethe_ | yeah i can have a dry coded alpha up in a bit |
| 19:03.18 | znf | what's the vignette stuff again |
| 19:03.31 | znf | google takes me to the api that was removed in 8.0 |
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| 19:07.55 | AcidWeb | it is just poi-like system to display some pins on map |
| 19:08.03 | znf | I wanted the functions :) |
| 19:08.19 | znf | C_VignetteInfo.GetVignettes() |
| 19:08.58 | znf | So... the Assaults on PTR have a 0-100% counter |
| 19:09.08 | znf | When you kill something, you get like 1-2%, depending on mob |
| 19:09.20 | znf | But, there are also these puzzles/mini-events (?) that you get to complete for extra % |
| 19:09.40 | znf | These are not visible on the map as a world quest, but they are only up as a vignette |
| 19:09.53 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/69ul8jR.png these |
| 19:10.22 | znf | And if they continue this way, that means you'll have to fly around like an idiot until you find 5 of them to easily get your 200 x Currency |
| 19:10.42 | znf | So, uhm.... addon idea time? |
| 19:10.57 | znf | global addon that syncs the position of these vignettes between players |
| 19:11.27 | Crosshash | We specifically kept those events inaccessible to lua |
| 19:11.42 | znf | ... |
| 19:12.41 | znf | If your game designers actually think that players will stand for that and not a lot of backlash from the community... |
| 19:14.49 | znf | I don't get the idea behind, it won't suddenly make people use the general chat to tell the location of the events/puzzles |
| 19:18.24 | nevcairiel | if you need to search for long enough, you arent even going to be faster using events and could just kill stuff :p |
| 19:18.58 | foxlit | wow gameplay, generally, has terrible progress bars. |
| 19:20.09 | nevcairiel | its not any different to any previous end-game zone with r andom events tbh |
| 19:20.34 | znf | it is faster, tough |
| 19:20.41 | znf | plus, they give rep |
| 19:22.49 | nevcairiel | the minimap vignette range is actually pretty decent, so if you care about rep, you will be doing more then required for the WQ, and can just fly around the map in a standard search pattern |
| 19:23.55 | znf | hence why I'm saying it would be nice to get info when someone has found one |
| 19:23.56 | znf | so you can go there |
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| 19:24.41 | foxlit | flying around the map in a standard search pattern sounds fun and engaging. |
| 19:25.17 | nevcairiel | people that want 100% efficiency usually opt into the not so fun methods :p |
| 19:25.46 | znf | one day uldum, the other day vale... |
| 19:25.49 | znf | "fun" times |
| 19:26.00 | nevcairiel | i've been told its one per week |
| 19:26.19 | znf | yes, but the bar to fill is daily, it seems |
| 19:26.23 | znf | or, at least it has been, so far |
| 19:26.59 | znf | and the mini-events also seem to be daily |
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| 19:43.47 | Yuyuli | There is a popular addon for the mecha/naz/darkshore zones that uses the existing Vignette provider and overwrites the C_Vignette apis, making it impossible for other addons to use the apis properly if it's enabled |
| 19:44.29 | Yuyuli | pretty annoying |
| 19:48.25 | znf | name and shame, please |
| 19:48.34 | nevcairiel | a bunch of addons do reckless stuff like that |
| 19:50.48 | znf | I guess you could put the mini-events in handynotes, as they all seem to have a quest attached |
| 19:52.14 | nevcairiel | i'm sure someone is making a plugin, they always do |
| 19:52.38 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.46 | nevcairiel | figures, when something goes wrong with the map in recent times, it has always been tomcats stuff |
| 19:54.09 | nevcairiel | he also had that huge self-ad in the worldmap frame |
| 19:54.33 | Stanzilla | TSquare Crosshash75 looks like we got some editbox fixes this build, thanks! |
| 19:54.47 | Crosshash75 | :) |
| 20:04.00 | Yuyuli | thing is, all he would need to do is implement hes own map provider, mix it in and tada, no need to actually abuse the existing provider |
| 20:04.35 | nevcairiel | in the past he wasnt really responsive to constructive criticism to step messing with other stuff |
| 20:04.44 | nevcairiel | stop* |
| 20:21.40 | Stanzilla | does he do that intentionally? |
| 20:26.01 | nevcairiel | well you dont typically overwrite APIs accidentally |
| 20:26.02 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 20:31.31 | Stanzilla | welllllll |
| 20:33.07 | nevcairiel | i doubt its mallice or anything like that, probably just carelessness |
| 20:39.47 | nevcairiel | easy way out, and all that |
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| 21:11.47 | Funkeh` | foxlit: do a check for all writes to the C_API that isn't hooksecurefunc, wonder what those results would be |
| 21:15.54 | Yuyuli | kinda hate how the mount equipment broke the only good thing summon random mount was good for |
| 21:16.22 | Yuyuli | now there is again no way to handle surface vs underwater, without checking breath timer/buffs that remove it |
| 21:16.31 | Yuyuli | wtb API |
| 21:17.34 | Yuyuli | summon random was able to differenciate being on the surface, a bit underwater, and actually being underwater, but that functionality was not exposed |
| 21:18.40 | Yuyuli | now it's useless because big mounts can't even jump onto water if you are already in water |
| 21:18.54 | Yuyuli | terrible design flaw still present |
| 21:19.35 | Yuyuli | and even if you are at the surface, but swimming, it will always use the underwater mounts |
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| 21:54.37 | foxlit | Funkeh`: it treats hooksecurefunc as something separate from a write, so everything under writes are actual assignments. |
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