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| 00:04.15 | LexAwayFromHome | how do i follow alpha and beta file updates for an addon on curseforge? i have Chinchilla followed, but it didn't tell me about the alpha and beta files that were uploaded |
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| 01:01.27 | Nimhfree_ | Simca: It looks like another 4 bytes were added before the titleLength section in the questcache.wdb file format for 8.2.5 |
| 01:03.39 | Simca | mmk |
| 01:03.48 | Simca | checking it out |
| 01:04.39 | Simca | you're right |
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| 03:22.36 | foxlit | local file, line = (pos)pos:match("^(.+):([%d+]+)$") |
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| 11:38.03 | LexSfX | how do i follow alpha and beta file updates for an addon on curseforge? i have Chinchilla followed, but it didn't tell me about the alpha and beta files that were uploaded. i'm only asking here because i was told the #curseforge channel was dead |
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| 18:31.47 | ThiefMaster | weird, since the last patch the artifact power bar is randomly disappearing (and usually coming back a few moments later) |
| 18:43.49 | Simca | i use a combined bar with dominos and i've noticed on login it will sometimes be on the wrong bar type since patch, wonder if that is related |
| 18:57.37 | Ennea | soo.. from someone that hasn't played retail for a looong time and has only returned for classic, what's the artifact power bar? |
| 18:59.06 | Simca | it's basically the experience bar for max level |
| 19:08.26 | Ennea | ah |
| 19:08.30 | Ennea | what do you get for filling it? |
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| 19:37.29 | znf | Ennea, more power :P |
| 19:37.38 | znf | but basically, it's like an XP bar for your neck piece ilvl |
| 19:37.47 | Ennea | only the neck piece? o.o |
| 19:38.12 | znf | technically Essences also scale with neck ilvl |
| 19:38.27 | znf | but the amount of secondary stats it holds is very large |
| 19:38.36 | Ennea | hm |
| 19:38.48 | znf | it has all 3 stats, crit/haste/mastery, and it's made up to balance the lack of secondary stats from head/shoulders/chest |
| 19:39.02 | znf | so while my Wrists have 73 crit/95 haste at ilvl 440 |
| 19:39.11 | Ennea | woah, "all" 3 stats |
| 19:39.12 | Ennea | the hell |
| 19:39.14 | nevcairiel | in earlier days (and in legion) it also unlocked passive abilities |
| 19:39.25 | znf | my neck (which is max level, 70), is at ilvl 473 and grants 336 of each crit/haste/mastery |
| 19:39.33 | nevcairiel | but at this point those are fully unlocked |
| 19:40.00 | znf | Yeah |
| 19:40.15 | znf | Right now it's mostly scaling the Azerite Essences |
| 19:40.26 | znf | And not all of them scale visibly, anyway |
| 19:40.41 | Ennea | hm |
| 19:40.59 | znf | Ennea, there's more stats these days, we got rid of expertise, defense, dodge, parry, arp, hit rating |
| 19:41.33 | znf | On gear, that is, parry and dodge are still present for tanks, but they are derived from other things (for example, Guardian Druids get their Dodge from Crit) |
| 19:41.51 | Ennea | getting dodge from crit seems weird |
| 19:42.03 | znf | The secondary stats on gear are only crit, haste, mastery |
| 19:42.18 | znf | If you think about it, it's not that weird. I mean, Agility used to grant Crit and Dodge, didn't it? :) |
| 19:42.53 | Ennea | fair :p |
| 19:42.58 | Ennea | could've just called it agility then though! |
| 19:43.00 | znf | But, these days we have some other very minor stats - Leech, Avoidance and Speed, but these are not present on gear by default |
| 19:43.24 | znf | They are a "bonus" which some pieces roll at looting time, these are tertiary stats |
| 19:43.58 | znf | Wait until you hear that rings no longer have primary stats on them (agi, int, str) :D |
| 19:45.06 | znf | And sockets are also now a random bonus for gems, they are no longer guaranteed on pieces (well, except in previous patch they added guaranteed sockets on crafted gear, but at the cost of 5 ilvls less) |
| 19:45.24 | znf | but all sockets are prismatic now and there are no more bonus for fitting the right color in them |
| 19:48.08 | Ennea | sounds like things got weird |
| 19:53.03 | znf | we used to have more secondary stats :D |
| 19:53.48 | znf | Multistrike was sort of cool, but cumberstone to balance, I guess |
| 19:54.37 | znf | And very confusing or players to figure out how it worked |
| 19:56.44 | znf | as in, it behaved differently in PvP and PvE, dot ticks could multistrike, but not efects like Ignite etc. |
| 19:57.21 | znf | Wasn't there another secondary stat that they tried, but it didn't make it? |
| 19:57.36 | znf | the faster cooldown thing, I think? |
| 19:57.52 | znf | Ennea, oh wait, I forgot about a secondary stat! Versatility |
| 19:57.58 | znf | Easy to forget about that |
| 19:58.21 | Ennea | what did that one do? |
| 19:58.29 | znf | We still have it |
| 19:58.48 | znf | It's a direct damage/healing increase, while being also a damage taken reduction stat |
| 19:59.12 | znf | ie: 2% versatility increases your damage/healing done by 2%, and damage taken reduced by 1% |
| 20:00.22 | znf | It's sort of a boring stat for most people, as it doesn't really interact with anything, at least for dps and healers, tanks want it, but I'm not too versed in the way most tanks work |
| 20:00.38 | znf | also, Mastery does something different for any spec in the game :D |
| 20:19.35 | Ennea | man |
| 20:19.38 | Ennea | so many differences |
| 20:19.48 | Ennea | i'll stick with classic ;D thanks for explaining things a little, though :D |
| 20:35.34 | znf | retail is a much more complex game, it had to evolve over the years :) |
| 20:37.24 | znf | lol https://i.imgur.com/1W69GEZ.png |
| 20:38.05 | Ennea | it really wants you to hit that cancel button |
| 20:38.21 | znf | there was no button when I tabbed back |
| 20:38.28 | znf | it tried to log me out for 4 minutes |
| 20:38.31 | znf | 9/26 23:30:29.809 You have been inactive for some time and will be logged out of the game. If you wish to remain logged in, hit the cancel button. |
| 20:38.31 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.01 | foxlit | Meh, they broke something with profession casting in 8.2.5. /cast Leatherworking just whiffs. |
| 21:28.51 | foxlit | it's also curious that /run CastSpellByName("Leatherworking") throws a taint error while this happens. |
| 21:33.34 | foxlit | ... it maps the name to the wrong spell ID (rank?): GetSpellInfo("Leatherworking") returns 264577; while the spellbook has the player knowing 158752 instead. Casting 158752 by ID works, while 264577 doesn't. |
| 21:34.08 | foxlit | It's like the Travel Form(Rank 2) nonsense again. |
| 21:35.33 | Sharparam | rank 2 travel form, increases speead by 60% |
| 21:35.39 | Sharparam | imagine |
| 21:36.28 | foxlit | it's a passive, so when you try to /cast Travel Form and it resolves to Rank 2, your macro fails, because fuck you. |
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| 23:01.20 | LexSfX | my "/cast First Aid" macro is working perfectly in Classic. did they change 8.2.5 but not classic with that change? |
| 23:03.21 | LexSfX | i hadn't considered future retail changes not affecting classic after classic release. that could cause a really stale state in a year |
| 23:03.50 | LexSfX | though i'm glad in a way that this new bug isn't everywhere |
| 23:11.46 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> Well they have been patching things that was possible to do in Classic to not work now so who knows. |
| 23:12.25 | foxlit | it's not deterministic to begin with -- which spell ends up owning the name isn't fixed, so even if /cast X works now, it doesn't guarantee that it will work next restart. |
| 23:20.05 | Infus | TSquare: 8.2.5 broke UnitAura in some cases, e.g. /dump UnitAura("player", 1, "PLAYER") seems to not return any data, even if there's a self-buff. |
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| 23:21.07 | rojam2 | ok dumbass question. how do i just print to the chat log? |
| 23:25.39 | kd3 | print("foo") |
| 23:25.46 | kd3 | https://wow.gamepedia.com/API_print |
| 23:26.18 | rojam2 | kd3: i saw that but i believe i'm doing something wrong because i'm not seeing it in game. |
| 23:26.29 | kd3 | it'll print to your default chat frame |
| 23:26.38 | rojam2 | if i do message('Test') the window pops up |
| 23:26.50 | rojam2 | but if i do print("test"), nothing happens |
| 23:28.26 | znf | check your chat tabs |
| 23:28.29 | znf | it prints to first |
| 23:29.39 | rojam2 | the only thing in my lua file is 'print("test")' |
| 23:29.47 | rojam2 | and nothing shows up |
| 23:29.54 | rojam2 | in any tab |
| 23:30.30 | kd3 | check logs\framexml.log to see if your addon's actually loading? |
| 23:30.53 | rojam2 | but if i switch it to 'message('test')' it shows up when i log in |
| 23:31.11 | rojam2 | so it's definitely being loaded |
| 23:31.56 | kd3 | so, with it saying message('test'), open up the file while wow is running. change it to print('test'), then type /reload in wow |
| 23:32.09 | kd3 | er change it, save the file, then type /reload in wow |
| 23:32.20 | rojam2 | ok i'll try that |
| 23:33.19 | rojam2 | nothing |
| 23:33.19 | kd3 | also, though it's slightly overkill, work through the guide at https://wow.gamepedia.com/AddOn_programming_introduction |
| 23:33.52 | rojam2 | yea i don't need any visuals for what i'm working on |
| 23:34.31 | rojam2 | this is the one i looked at https://www.wowhead.com/guide=1949/wow-addon-writing-guide-part-one-how-to-make-your-first-addon |
| 23:36.06 | rojam2 | ok so it's another addon creating the issue |
| 23:36.13 | rojam2 | because i disabled all addons and it worked |
