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| 00:56.58 | Mr_Rabies | >got a thank you email for reporting bugs on the ptr |
| 00:57.20 | Mr_Rabies | wow people really don't play that for any other reason than to see stuff early and shitpost nowadays do they |
| 01:09.10 | Corrodias | maybe they just send that to everyone! |
| 01:10.27 | MooreaTv | I reported issues and never got any email, unless it's in my spam folder |
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| 01:45.41 | Mr_Rabies | that's cause i'm cool moorea i yelled at them for turning off aero in windows 7 |
| 01:45.51 | Mr_Rabies | and they added a cvar, clearly just because of my report |
| 01:45.58 | Mr_Rabies | (after the patch hit live servers) |
| 02:03.05 | MooreaTv | qq: so I renamed a method, and then forgot to change the caller in another file... is there a tool that would tell me I call/use symbols never defined, statically and not have to get a lua error later ? |
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| 02:56.24 | znf | I just had a tank in AD+12 move the last boss in the adds pile... |
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| 05:20.03 | Mr_Rabies | oh details is interesting in AV |
| 05:20.10 | Mr_Rabies | now using 400 MB by itself lol |
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| 06:50.19 | Mr_Rabies | argh having a hard time finding an addon that adds zone/subzone and/or coordinates to an ldb feed |
| 06:50.32 | Mr_Rabies | that isn't broken, at least |
| 06:51.28 | MooreaTv | what's an ldb feed? |
| 06:53.31 | Mr_Rabies | well, i dunno if feed is necessarily the best term, plugin i guess? i dunno |
| 06:53.34 | Mr_Rabies | lib data broker |
| 06:54.21 | Mr_Rabies | this sorta works but causes a lot of taint with the coordinate blocking in dungeons etc https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/ilocation |
| 06:54.34 | Mr_Rabies | ~seen grdn1337 |
| 06:54.34 | purl | i haven't seen 'grdn1337', Mr_Rabies |
| 06:56.26 | Mr_Rabies | would rather it handle that gracefully but well i guess i can just turn off coords in the ldb part since i have it on the minimap or something |
| 06:59.00 | nebula | didn't torhal have an addon for that? tourist or something |
| 06:59.08 | nebula | travel agent |
| 06:59.41 | MooreaTv | is this it https://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1 ? |
| 06:59.48 | nebula | thats ldb, yes |
| 07:00.31 | MooreaTv | thx! |
| 07:00.57 | Mr_Rabies | basically it's a library for stuff like how titanpanel/fubar used to be, but much more modular, as i understand it |
| 07:01.13 | Mr_Rabies | i use chocolatebar as my preferred broker addon, personally |
| 07:01.53 | Mr_Rabies | looks like travelagent is even more out of date, nebula |
| 07:02.29 | MooreaTv | maybe I can use that and have someone competent in UI display my stuff, but I don't suppose it's magic and UIs just appear magically ? though there are probably stuff to display lists, party decorations etc I suppose |
| 07:02.42 | nebula | ah, he hasn't updated his stuff for a while |
| 07:04.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's basically just simple info plus an icon, i use it to replace all my minimap buttons and a few other things |
| 07:06.58 | Mr_Rabies | oooh i think the addon i used to use but deleted when it went abandoned and then replaced with ilocation is updated now |
| 07:07.10 | Mr_Rabies | so i guess i'll just do my usual leapfrogging around dead addons lol |
| 07:07.21 | Mr_Rabies | turns out curse/twitch search is still pretty miserable |
| 07:07.31 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/zz_coords |
| 07:09.15 | MooreaTv | maybe I can structure my addon with optional own UI vs optional broker, is there some example of that ? |
| 07:09.59 | Mr_Rabies | a lot of addons have both their own way of doing stuff and a broker if it's the kind of addon that relays pretty simple info |
| 07:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | let me find one that does both |
| 07:10.29 | Mr_Rabies | well, there's dbm for example |
| 07:10.45 | Mr_Rabies | it basically just moves all the minimap icon stuff to a broker, but it's a very simple implementation |
| 07:10.58 | nebula | eg, odds are alot of minimap buttons are ldb via LibLDBIcon |
| 07:11.07 | Mr_Rabies | what sort of adon are you working on? |
| 07:11.10 | Mr_Rabies | addon* |
| 07:11.21 | MooreaTv | you mean Deadly Boss Mod ? that's a huge thing, I'd like to look at a simple(r) example |
| 07:11.34 | nebula | it's not a ui, it's a data feed or launcher |
| 07:12.02 | MooreaTv | my addon does (to simplify) party related stuff (really what it does is dynamic multi boxing things, so you can change team composition on the fly) |
| 07:13.08 | MooreaTv | for instance I am thinking of adding a simple status frame: https://github.com/mooreatv/DynamicBoxer/issues/14#issuecomment-504649417 but maybe I can instead export the data to... something ? |
| 07:13.42 | Mr_Rabies | you could certainly just make a broker button that opens your options, or has a large dropdown with that info in it |
| 07:14.00 | Mr_Rabies | interacting with the broker popup frame is hit or miss depending on each person's setup though |
| 07:14.16 | Mr_Rabies | SavedInstances has a fairly indepth broker implementation with a large table like that |
| 07:14.43 | MooreaTv | I was thinking I need some sort of around the minimap button for ui discovery so sure for that part at least, which I guess is what is called launcher? |
| 07:15.49 | Mr_Rabies | when i mouse over my savedinstances icon this is what i see: https://i.imgur.com/l88zbZb.png |
| 07:15.50 | MooreaTv | on a side note I also for debug save/restore etrace filters and I would like to display the table I filter instead of just having (currently) a save/clear buttons |
| 07:16.18 | MooreaTv | ohh fancy |
| 07:16.46 | MooreaTv | how much of the colors, formatting etc is done by the producer and how much is done by the display broker? |
| 07:16.59 | Mr_Rabies | the author controlled all of that |
| 07:17.31 | MooreaTv | k so I'll look at SavedInstances code, cool (hopefully it's not huge or using 300 libraries) |
| 07:18.10 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty complicated |
| 07:18.22 | MooreaTv | yeah https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:e06713180a54eca485bad8fd6459abdf |
| 07:18.25 | Mr_Rabies | but basically i have a little bar at the top of my screen that has icons and optionally certain text, etc |
| 07:19.40 | Mr_Rabies | https://i.imgur.com/m6rFnFF.png |
| 07:21.04 | MooreaTv | btw foxlit on the above link click "Classic-removed" to show/hide only works on the first set and not the second |
| 07:21.55 | MooreaTv | yes that reminds me of titanpanel ages ago |
| 07:25.08 | MooreaTv | thx for those pointers, is there a comparaison between all these options (fubar, titan, ldb (and there are probably more)) ? |
| 07:25.14 | Mr_Rabies | rpairbroker might be a bit more simple to check out |
| 07:25.30 | Mr_Rabies | i think fubar and titan have been backported to ldb-compatible or something? not sure |
| 07:25.34 | Mr_Rabies | they were basically abandoned |
| 07:25.42 | nebula | ldb is just a registry, fubar and titanpanel are displays |
| 07:26.20 | MooreaTv | titan seems alive and has a bridge http://www.titanpanel.org/ldb.html |
| 07:26.48 | MooreaTv | ic |
| 07:28.45 | MooreaTv | cursf broke the links to forum posts, repair broker has a link to http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14903 but... no such luck |
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| 14:00.36 | Simca | is there a way to check if a file path is valid? |
| 14:00.53 | Simca | like for a custom sound file stored in an addon |
| 14:01.22 | Simca | besides trying and failing to use PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\\SimcaStuff\\Things.ogg") |
| 14:01.47 | MooreaTv | arent u supposed to only use IDs now? |
| 14:02.16 | Simca | custom sounds shipped with addons can still be called by name, since they don't have IDs |
| 14:02.37 | Simca | as well as anything in ManifestInterfaceData (basically anything with Interface\ as the path) |
| 14:24.25 | MooreaTv | I haven't used sounds yet so was just repeating what I heard but you're right :) |
| 14:30.12 | Simca | the problem i have is kind of unique - this addon is coded so that if its call to play a sound fails, it never clears the event that triggered the sound from its internal stack and will repeatedly try it, slowing down users' games wildly since it keeps trying on every frame |
| 14:30.48 | Simca | i fixed it for the 8.2 changes, but it doesn't solve the issue of how damaging that design can be if the sound file is a valid-appearing path but doesn't actually exist |
| 14:32.56 | MooreaTv | that indeed sounds like bad design |
| 14:37.09 | znf | Those underwater goblins in nazjatar don't fit the horde narrative at all :D |
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| 15:46.42 | foxlit | Simca: check GetFileIDFromPath return? |
| 15:47.27 | Simca | no sure if that would solve custom sound files that don't exist but may solve blizz ones that don't exist |
| 15:48.22 | foxlit | the opposite seems more likely, hence "check" |
| 16:01.07 | Simca | used on custom sounds, it returns nil, whether they exist or not |
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| 16:04.34 | znf | oh yay |
| 16:04.35 | znf | pvp event |
| 16:11.42 | znf | oh my god, this is hilarious |
| 16:11.48 | znf | ~10 seconds to cast a spell |
| 16:13.29 | znf | I mean, what did they thing it would happen when you run the pvp event on just a bunch of shards/servers... it's obvious that people will make groups into those shards and bring like half the horde population |
| 16:13.54 | znf | 20 seconds to loot :D |
| 16:14.46 | foxlit | Simca: pity, but thanks. It used to return negative ids for either custom or overridden textures. |
| 16:15.05 | Simca | drat, that would help |
| 16:16.00 | znf | Basically, it's the same situation of unbalanced servers, but now with added lag |
| 16:16.04 | foxlit | (I had a bug where I would persist those negative identifiers instead of paths, and they would change upon restart, resulting in texture roulette) |
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| 16:19.56 | Funkeh` | Simca: we have the exact same issue with a bigwigs plugin, where it relies on playing a custom addon sound that may or may not exist, and decides what to do based on the 1st return value (success/fail) |
| 16:20.35 | Funkeh` | I'm not personally convinced that PlaySoundFile should be erroring like it is now on custom paths that dont exist, seems counter the the whole return value functionality |
| 16:20.57 | Funkeh` | maybe TSquare has a reason for it |
| 16:21.57 | Simca | having no way to check the validity of a file custom file path is pretty annoying for this addon. I'm updating it for 8.2 but I don't want to redesign the whole thing (I can't even officially post it anyway since the author went MIA) |
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| 16:31.11 | znf | The alliance had 4/3000 since the start of the event, since horde had 100/3000 |
| 16:32.07 | Simca | at least that means alliance exists |
| 16:32.20 | Simca | i found that you get 1 point for kills even if you control nothing |
| 16:32.26 | Simca | so they must have killed 4 horde lol |
| 16:36.31 | znf | probably yeah |
| 16:36.47 | znf | but then all alliance went to other shards :D |
| 16:36.51 | znf | because we couldn't find any, anymore |
| 16:55.20 | Meorawr | Classic beta closes July 12th, bit concerned that a bunch of API functions never got the file ID support backported |
| 16:56.42 | Funkeh` | you say that as if they neglected specific functions, the entire game isn't 8.2 |
| 16:57.44 | Funkeh` | I've still got all the prepatch compat code in my addons, just not going to bother removing it |
| 17:39.42 | Elmoe | Funkeh`: agreed fwiw |
| 17:39.51 | Elmoe | Funkeh`: having to wrap it in pcall doesn't make sense at all |
| 17:40.31 | Elmoe | particularly given the return values of PlaySoundFile that really left me head scratching |
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| 18:04.23 | znf | ow, crap, the Elemental Essence Amalgamator can't be "changed" |
| 18:04.47 | znf | My dumb-ass clicked the activator before clicking the essences, and now I can't swap my summon :( |
| 18:08.47 | znf | Earlier in Nazjatar PvP https://gfycat.com/generousraggedharborporpoise |
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| 18:27.10 | foxlit | "This World is currently full. Players in queue: 721." |
| 18:27.24 | znf | Is this stupid button from this item bugged for anyone else? https://www.wowhead.com/item=167077/scrying-stone#comments |
| 18:27.32 | znf | You get an extra action button, but mine keeps disappearing |
| 18:28.06 | foxlit | it's based on your proximity to the objective? |
| 18:29.59 | znf | I would expect that, yes |
| 18:30.08 | znf | but... you sometimes get the arcane sight, and it puts them on your minimap |
| 18:30.15 | znf | and you go close to it, but no button |
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| 20:53.37 | VIad | znf: those dont show the up down arrows well, so often you might use it and get the chest to spawn in the floor below/above :( |
| 21:02.38 | znf | VIad, there's no up/down there |
| 21:02.49 | znf | I was at the far-east elf-town |
| 21:03.21 | VIad | maybe phasing overlapped and overrode the chest spawn |
| 21:03.41 | znf | that'd be weird :) |
| 21:04.51 | znf | hmmm, I have Assasin on me, I bet that if I zone in Mechagon, I get a bounty on my ass |
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| 22:17.25 | MooreaTv | Tsquare- hey, hi, may I bother you with something, can you tell me the rationale for why I can use bnet to see any of my bnet friends logged in characters into wow (including if they have more than one) but I can't (seem to) use BNSendGameData to send data to my own (multiple accounts unde 1 bnet) characters? |
| 22:17.48 | MooreaTv | (i have some additional background in <https://github.com/mooreatv/DynamicBoxer/issues/5> if that helps) |
| 22:38.00 | pompy | https://www.techradar.com/news/parallels-and-winzip-developer-corel-is-acquired-for-dollar1bn |
| 22:48.41 | nebula | out of all things corel owns, they decided to use winzip? lol |
| 22:51.38 | Gnarfoz | I didn't realize they own Parallels now |
| 22:52.21 | Gnarfoz | in hindsight, the decision to pick Parallels over VMware Horizon for VDI makes more sense now, considering we're owned by KKR as well :P |
| 23:28.42 | znf | [00:04:51] <znf> hmmm, I have Assasin on me, I bet that if I zone in Mechagon, I get a bounty on my ass |
| 23:28.46 | znf | nope, only took 2 hours and half |
| 23:29.06 | znf | I have no idea how this shit works |
| 23:33.52 | znf | like, I wasn't even in combat when the bounty popped up, I was just fishing |
