| 00:27.24 | Arrowmaster | BlizzCon is the same weekend as another event I goto so now I have to choose between them |
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| 01:08.33 | znf | Arrowmaster, do you not have a phone? |
| 01:08.39 | znf | watch blizzcon on your phone! |
| 01:10.02 | Arrowmaster | but I don't goto blizzcon for blizzcon |
| 01:10.07 | Arrowmaster | that part sucks |
| 01:11.43 | znf | the other one - is it a geeky event? |
| 01:22.58 | Arrowmaster | No, its a halloween party |
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| 08:29.09 | VIad | they should had made a blizzcon ticket deal where you could pay a bit more and get a phone that is diablo immortal ready at the same time, maybe the phone could even have a cool unique diablo themed colors on the plastic :) |
| 08:39.41 | nevcairiel | phones are expensive, thats not a "bit" more =p |
| 10:06.11 | VIad | if you went to blizzcon last year and came back this year after the diablo announcement you get a free diablo immortal ready phone |
| 10:20.07 | AcidWeb | Vlad: https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Diablo+immortal+httpsimgurcomgalleryegyjfpg_31cfd8_6808963.jpg |
| 10:20.08 | AcidWeb | ? |
| 10:22.04 | nevcairiel | independently, diablo immortal isnt even that bad, it just wasnt what people were hoping for |
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| 10:23.44 | AcidWeb | Oh I'm sure it will make shitload of money. |
| 10:24.23 | AcidWeb | But making a mobile game is a just a blatant cash grab with bar set very low. |
| 10:25.26 | nevcairiel | companies want to make money, people buy mobile games, there is nothing shady about that really |
| 10:25.50 | AcidWeb | It was unexpected move from company that had reputation of company that care about quality. |
| 10:25.55 | AcidWeb | That is all. |
| 10:26.43 | nevcairiel | you can still care about quality in a mobile game =p |
| 10:28.00 | nevcairiel | incidentally caring about quality is presumably also the reason d4 wasnt announced, since they didnt like where it was at |
| 10:31.02 | AcidWeb | For me mobile gaming is definition of low quality. |
| 10:31.23 | AcidWeb | It is easy, fast way to make much money without any effort. |
| 10:38.26 | AcidWeb | And if they would care about quality WoW 8.0 would be never released. |
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| 10:39.54 | AcidWeb | As it was obviously rushed and unfinished. |
| 10:59.21 | VIad | reading about some ban wave. a moderator on reddit suggested arctium related files on the PC would trigger the ban? sandboxes/modelediting or something. just curious if sandboxing would get you banned - how is wowhead and mmochamp supposed to make preview PTR pictures now? :/ |
| 10:59.58 | Alram | this is about model/memory editing |
| 11:00.08 | Alram | not necessarily about sandbox usage |
| 11:00.25 | Alram | it is still not allowed of course but they don't care about the major sites doing it |
| 11:00.56 | VIad | model editing was my first assumption when these started to popup. there are many texture swap programs used for DX games in general, I guess those are now being flagged too? |
| 11:01.13 | Alram | yeah but mostly wow specific stuff in this case |
| 11:03.12 | VIad | I can't defend file editing. but maybe I might be next in line for a ban. for swapping the fizzle sounds with empty sounds to not have to hear the annoying _fizzle_ effect on spells ,_, |
| 11:03.47 | VIad | tho I assume if you put a file in the proper path and the game loads it it's in the clear as it doesn't load things it doesn't want to load anyway from the file system |
| 11:06.42 | Alram | specific thing here was memory editing the game to load all files locally |
| 11:06.50 | Alram | that is very much not allowed |
| 11:07.25 | Alram | putting things in directory that it loads by itself is probably fine considering that is also basically how addons work |
| 11:12.54 | nevcairiel | apparentley they even plan to do e xtra work to keep sound replacements working in 8.2 |
| 11:18.15 | nebula | using an id or something? |
| 11:20.46 | Alram | yeah must be using soundkitids or filedataids, not sure how'd they do that otherwise now |
| 11:20.51 | VIad | recursively searching the sounds folder for \d+.ogg or whatever pattern they desire would be a nice way to keep the files structured by purpose, yet not a flat folder with a bunch of IDs or smth |
| 11:21.50 | VIad | what about textures? I use a chat box texture edit to align the chat box tail better with the actual box, for some reason mine is with a slight gap I had to fix myself. I hope they would let textures also load like sounds :( |
| 11:22.10 | nevcairiel | addons can easily fix textures in UI elements without overrides |
| 11:22.49 | VIad | even chat boxes? |
| 11:22.54 | VIad | bubbles** |
| 11:23.28 | VIad | it was so niche I doubt it will be fixed until 14.X or a major chat bubble overhaul :P |
| 11:24.09 | VIad | for some reason the tail was with an extra gap I had to narrow myself by editing the tail image and nudging it up a couple of pixels so it made contact with the other element ingame - no idea why it happened. https://i.imgur.com/gIv1B60.png |
| 11:24.13 | nebula | it's a bit hacky, but you can iterate the region to replace the textures |
| 11:24.41 | VIad | in dungeons they forbid interraction with the chat bubbles and friendly nameplates which is what worries me on those kind of addons |
| 11:25.00 | VIad | there is no framework made to replace the lack of customization in dungeon setting yet |
| 11:25.48 | VIad | the whole addons making lines on nameplates and such made blizz stingy in how much you can do, by just going full secure env on the whole thing as punishment for past sins |
| 11:27.57 | VIad | looks interesting with the overwatch workshop, I wonder what interface you use to make those game modes. like any programming language? |
| 11:34.21 | VIad | it seems very UI intensive in the pictures I saw about how it works |
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| 22:23.43 | znf | I'm out of the loop - what happened to bigger boobs today in WoW? |
| 22:24.50 | Alram | people got banned for running applications that enable local file loading (allowing for model swapping) |
| 22:24.54 | Alram | then they got unbanned |
| 22:25.00 | Alram | and blizzard said sorry |
| 22:25.13 | znf | ah |
| 22:25.27 | znf | ...but why bigger boobs? |
| 22:25.57 | foxlit | what kind of question is that? |
| 22:26.12 | Alram | znf has not gone through puberty yet |
| 22:26.13 | Alram | leave him be |
| 22:26.16 | znf | actually, let me rephrase |
| 22:26.27 | znf | Why did they get unbanned? :o |
| 22:26.46 | Alram | "After performing an additional review of the evidence considered in this action, we've determined that this closure was an error." |
| 22:26.48 | Alram | aka no idea |
| 22:26.58 | znf | and what new tool came out that suddenly it was in blizzards' spotlight? |
| 22:27.06 | Alram | no new tool |
| 22:27.16 | znf | the morph tools I know have been pretty old and I think dead at this point? |
| 22:27.18 | znf | oh, I see |
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