| 00:05.16 | Corrodias | doesn't really sound DRM-free if it requires using their client...? |
| 00:07.07 | nevcairiel | well you can get the music out of it to play it in other places |
| 00:08.03 | Corrodias | ah |
| 00:08.31 | nevcairiel | just the ecosystem within their phone is really quite locked |
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| 19:14.48 | Mr_Rabies | can't believe azerite knowledge is on hold again after this week :< |
| 19:16.45 | Mr_Rabies | <- doesn't even have all his traits unlocked and has 9/9H 1/9M lol |
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| 19:23.44 | Mr_Rabies | well, missing the final trait on 3 pieces since my neck is only 41 and i need 44 |
| 19:35.26 | Stanzilla_ | just stop playing WoW |
| 19:37.29 | Mr_Rabies | seems to be the hot new trend |
| 19:37.30 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 19:43.27 | nebula | or play more wow, i'm almost 44 barely do more than emissaries and ap wq nearby |
| 19:44.17 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really do either of those things anymore lol |
| 19:44.21 | Mr_Rabies | or islands, or lfr |
| 19:44.30 | Mr_Rabies | i pretty much just login, raid, and then logout |
| 19:44.35 | nebula | so what good is AK if you don't do shit |
| 19:44.45 | Mr_Rabies | well, it really only helps with raiding anyway |
| 19:45.18 | Mr_Rabies | they did increase the AP drops from raid bosses which is nice |
| 19:46.00 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really care since we've moved onto alt raiding heroic now for the most part |
| 19:47.13 | Mr_Rabies | there's only one raiding guild on the server with enough people to do mythic progression, all the rest just 1/4 pug the first boss |
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| 21:12.03 | nevcairiel | You have months to catch up Azerite now. Gotta have something to work on until 8.2 |
| 21:12.39 | nevcairiel | Also new gear is supposed to no longer require higher levels after this |
| 21:14.44 | foxlit | np, old gear will require higher levels after this. |
| 21:15.01 | nevcairiel | We also do HC only, so outside of getting lucky with a M+ piece thats actually useful, I likely won't require many more levels for full unlocks either |
| 21:17.31 | nevcairiel | Presumably the heart itself will get traits like the weapons had, so if you consider that old gear, sure. But at least that lacks the bad feelings of being set back all the time when you get new gear |
| 21:23.56 | znf | I seriously paid my sub only to do 1 M+ |
| 21:23.58 | znf | that's about it |
| 21:24.03 | znf | haven't logged on after |
| 21:25.19 | nevcairiel | So stop paying it :p |
| 21:25.29 | Mr_Rabies | i find it really dumb that M+ is my only viable route to get better gear at this point but what do i need better gear for so who cares lol |
| 21:25.46 | znf | yeah, I'm no sure why I'm paying it |
| 21:26.06 | znf | the Mythic rule is stupid |
| 21:26.16 | znf | should be x-realm and flex after world 1st |
| 21:26.19 | nevcairiel | The alternative would be no better gear if you don't want mythic raiding, I don't see how that would be better :) |
| 21:26.24 | Mr_Rabies | i'm pretty much just subbing because i like my guild, and we're building up from scratch |
| 21:26.47 | Mr_Rabies | getting from 4 players to #4 heroic jaina in one tier ain't too shabby |
| 21:27.56 | znf | dunno what to tell you |
| 21:28.01 | znf | I pug'd jaina hc on 1st week |
| 21:28.38 | nevcairiel | Everyone can pug shit, that's no achievement |
| 21:28.40 | Mr_Rabies | our realm is basically dead so getting recruits is tough |
| 21:28.58 | Mr_Rabies | we have been trying to get 20 players for months and it's getting harder and harder |
| 21:29.05 | Mr_Rabies | we're up to 15 on a good night with everyone there |
| 21:29.20 | Mr_Rabies | we're paying for people to transfer and even then |
| 21:29.26 | nevcairiel | It's also really not that much fun to just kill everything, what's the game without some challenge |
| 21:30.13 | znf | the challenge is in Mythic |
| 21:30.35 | Mr_Rabies | unfortunately the challenge is getting 20 players on mythic level on my server |
| 21:30.53 | Mr_Rabies | because there are probably less than 100 total on the entire server across both factions |
| 21:31.01 | Mr_Rabies | regardless of scheduling conflict, etc |
| 21:31.23 | nevcairiel | Maybe you should pay for people to transfer off instead of trying to get people in :D |
| 21:31.29 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 21:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | i wouldn't ever transfer off |
| 21:31.41 | Mr_Rabies | i've got 14 alts and started on this server in 2004 |
| 21:31.51 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not paying to fix blizzard's problem, that's what they want me to do |
| 21:31.58 | nevcairiel | Server attachment is stupid |
| 21:32.09 | Mr_Rabies | paying for server transfers is even more stupid |
| 21:32.10 | nevcairiel | And you are if you pay for other people to come to you |
| 21:32.18 | Mr_Rabies | i mean i'm not paying |
| 21:32.28 | znf | server transfer costs are stupid :P |
| 21:32.32 | Mr_Rabies | i'd never pay for some poor soul to get stranded on our dead server |
| 21:32.33 | znf | I mean, stupidly high |
| 21:33.12 | Mr_Rabies | but our GM is willing to pay for good players to transfer if necessary |
| 21:33.43 | znf | it's what, 20⬠these days, per char? |
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| 21:33.45 | Mr_Rabies | we have an ingame community that we post a link to when we pug players and if we get repeated pugs that we like we will try to get them to transfer |
| 21:33.55 | Mr_Rabies | and eventually if they're good enough just straight up offer to pay for it lol |
| 21:35.06 | znf | everyone has server attachments tough |
| 21:35.22 | znf | and blizzard knows it, hence the server cost being so high :P |
| 21:35.33 | znf | server transfer* |
| 21:35.51 | Mr_Rabies | they're willing to bleed subscribers enough at this point because they're making enough from transfers for it to be worth it |
| 21:36.01 | znf | maybe, who knows |
| 21:36.03 | Mr_Rabies | if everyone just stopped buying that dumb shit they'd be forced to fix it |
| 21:36.25 | znf | I don't have that issue anymore, but I do remember how demoralizing is to play on a dead server |
| 21:36.46 | znf | to fill up the guild, to do heroic (back then), then next week you lose another |
| 21:36.51 | znf | to cancel raids because you couldn't fill up a group |
| 21:37.19 | nevcairiel | I transferred off of one of the biggest pve realms in my region because at the time the lag was unbearable, I'm not going to have a bad time just to stick it to some company :p |
| 21:37.53 | nevcairiel | Either I stop playing, or I ensure shit works for me |
| 21:39.25 | nevcairiel | With sharding the lag is hopefully solved now for a long time, but that was in like mop |
| 21:43.54 | foxlit | the lag is hopefully solved now for a long tim << I'm 0/2 on recent play attempts. |
| 21:44.31 | foxlit | World has like a second of ability/spell reaction lag; it's just plain miserable. |
| 21:45.03 | foxlit | (with like 3 people in a sub-zone.) |
| 21:45.10 | nevcairiel | Can't say, not on a highpop realm anylonger |
| 21:45.14 | nevcairiel | And mine is fine |
| 21:45.51 | znf | mine is fine, too |
| 21:45.57 | znf | tough the sharding makes the game feel like shit, imho |
| 21:46.34 | foxlit | (in short, I've given up. There are better experiences, and I have a unicorn to paint.) |
| 21:52.32 | Cairenn1 | unicorn? unicorn! |
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