| 00:00.07 | nevcairiel | it uses special logic to make the frame look less shitty, apparently forgotten a bunch of things, as is the case with special cases |
| 00:14.49 | znf | Semlar, thx for fixing |
| 00:15.15 | Semlar | np |
| 00:17.46 | znf | So, maybe someone has an idea, completely unrelated to the game - I'm need 3 icons that can represent sizes like small/medium/large in the context of hosting packages (so a small one, a medium one, a large one); and I'm completely out of ideas on what to use |
| 00:17.59 | znf | I was thinking something like Snail, Rabbit... Eagle/Bird? |
| 00:18.23 | znf | But snail is weird, would kind of have negative connotations |
| 00:18.32 | znf | Been trying to figure something out for the last hour |
| 00:19.07 | znf | Anyone got any suggestion? |
| 00:20.11 | Mr_Rabies | chihuahua, golden retriever, mastiff |
| 00:21.01 | znf | that's a pretty good idea |
| 00:27.17 | znf | I could probably also use mouse/cat/tiger(or cheetah, something?) |
| 00:27.31 | znf | or, cheetah, car, airplane |
| 00:27.55 | Mr_Rabies | just directly steal the names of the drink sizes at starbucks |
| 00:28.00 | Mr_Rabies | that all mean large, i believe |
| 00:28.22 | kd3 | tall, large, 20 |
| 00:29.07 | znf | I don't have an issue with name, well, not now anyway |
| 00:29.08 | Mr_Rabies | here's more or less how i feel about that sort of situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7xut7zgv_E |
| 00:29.24 | znf | placeholder, obviously https://i.imgur.com/yx5ckDz.png :P |
| 00:31.15 | Azxiana | Cute owls. |
| 00:34.26 | znf | yup |
| 00:35.04 | znf | thankfully, a Freepik subscription is cheap |
| 00:42.12 | Mr_Rabies | yeah a bunch of my cvars reset just now after closing the game |
| 00:42.13 | Mr_Rabies | neat |
| 00:42.17 | Mr_Rabies | ones that had been set for years |
| 00:43.15 | znf | good to know that I should make a copy |
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| 00:48.06 | Mr_Rabies | it even reset like |
| 00:48.09 | Mr_Rabies | which prompts i've read |
| 00:48.30 | Mr_Rabies | wonder if it's tied to the app |
| 00:48.36 | Mr_Rabies | phone app |
| 00:55.38 | Mr_Rabies | eh that's fine i'll just restore a version of the config.wtf file from 3/8/19 and hope for the best lol |
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| 01:37.48 | Mr_Rabies | ooh it's actually config-cache.wtf |
| 01:37.57 | Mr_Rabies | how on earth do you properly restore that, doesn't it check server side? |
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| 01:57.46 | Semlar | how hard would it be to release a patch that didn't break existing addons |
| 01:58.48 | Mr_Rabies | their goal is to just run off all the addon authors i think |
| 01:59.05 | Semlar | or keep pulling them back to fix things |
| 02:00.33 | Funkeh` | I'd say they are doing a good job at reducing breakage https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/Blizzard_Deprecated/Deprecated_8_1_5.lua |
| 02:15.08 | Mr_Rabies | looks like worldmaptooltip is already gone, unless i'm misreading |
| 03:08.21 | znf | meh, my windows randomly "crashed" |
| 03:08.26 | znf | or, rather, my display went into sleep mode |
| 03:08.32 | znf | nothing would wake it up |
| 03:08.45 | znf | I could even teamviewer to it and I was able to access my desktop |
| 03:09.40 | znf | I tought I'd take advantage of my downtime/reboot to update to 1809 |
| 03:09.45 | znf | but nope, doesn't want to do it |
| 03:09.54 | Corrodias | huh. |
| 03:11.24 | znf | I have some failed updates to Office 2013 which I'm assuming it breaks the windows update process, somehow... |
| 03:15.34 | Mr_Rabies | i get some great errors in this patch |
| 03:15.35 | Mr_Rabies | 56x Couldn't find inherited node: ItemButtonTemplate |
| 03:15.41 | Mr_Rabies | 32x (null) |
| 03:15.45 | znf | yeah, any bag addon is RIP |
| 03:15.46 | znf | must be patched |
| 03:15.52 | Mr_Rabies | that's the full bugsack |
| 03:15.57 | Mr_Rabies | on two different errors |
| 03:16.01 | Mr_Rabies | not tied to any addon at all |
| 03:17.11 | znf | oh. I think one of my SSDs crashed |
| 03:19.25 | znf | this shit is barely 6 months old, wtf |
| 03:21.44 | znf | oh, EU is up, btw |
| 03:22.41 | Mr_Rabies | is it a sata SSD? |
| 03:22.44 | Mr_Rabies | if so, check the cables |
| 03:23.39 | znf | yeah, it's sata |
| 03:23.42 | znf | I'll do it later |
| 03:24.05 | znf | hmmm, did they change some crap regarding UI textures? |
| 03:24.21 | Corrodias | i used to have my computer sleep every day, but i had to stop, because the drive controller would sometimes not wake up. or something. |
| 03:24.31 | Mr_Rabies | the ui is no longer antialiased |
| 03:24.33 | znf | my Aurora is not skinning the quest dialogue anymore - Gethe! |
| 03:25.04 | Corrodias | i'd have to do a cold boot (warm reset would wind up with "no OS found", which is how i know it is a hardware issue and not a driver), and mirc and steam would lose their config files, which would be filled with nulls, for some oddball reason. |
| 03:25.41 | Mr_Rabies | mirc lost its config file once for me and i was super sad, but i recovered it |
| 03:26.07 | Mr_Rabies | mostly because of this https://i.imgur.com/1HKJEzr.png |
| 03:26.37 | znf | I had 9 weeks uptime on my windows :-/ |
| 03:27.42 | Funkeh` | You should never have more than 4 weeks uptime on windows |
| 03:28.12 | Mr_Rabies | Windows7 Uptime: 2wks 3days 3hrs 54mins 45secs Best: 9wks 5hrs 53mins 38secs |
| 03:28.15 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 03:30.45 | znf | meh, I have too many SSH sessions to reopen |
| 03:30.47 | znf | it's a pain |
| 03:31.02 | znf | also, still not installing 1809 |
| 03:31.16 | znf | but hey, I'm getting cumulative updates for 1803, for march... |
| 03:32.26 | znf | TukuiDevs - thanks for this https://i.redd.it/hpdi7u8ihrl21.jpg - but you could have found a better placement |
| 03:32.39 | Gethe | znf: are you getting errors? |
| 03:32.47 | znf | Gethe, nope :-| |
| 03:33.03 | Gethe | pics? |
| 03:33.07 | znf | in a sec |
| 03:33.56 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> That's where Elv placed it.. |
| 03:34.16 | Funkeh` | Man this is the 2nd patch in a row that the deprecated file has contained a spelling mistake and broke stuff that should never have been broke ugh ;_; |
| 03:35.15 | znf | Gethe, https://i.redd.it/hpdi7u8ihrl21.jpg |
| 03:36.24 | Gethe | voice chat? |
| 03:36.34 | znf | Gethe, https://i.imgur.com/labmVZx.png |
| 03:36.43 | znf | oh, sorry |
| 03:36.54 | znf | the 1st screenshot was https://i.imgur.com/labmVZx.png |
| 03:38.41 | Gethe | im not seeing that on my end |
| 03:39.14 | znf | did you push an update? |
| 03:39.46 | Gethe | yeah last night, should be 8.1.5.0 |
| 03:40.00 | znf | I should have it |
| 03:40.04 | znf | let me try, tough |
| 03:41.42 | znf | "a character with that name already exists" |
| 03:41.44 | znf | thanks blizz |
| 03:42.19 | znf | Gethe, nope :-| |
| 03:43.55 | Gethe | are you looking on the client or on the site? https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/aurora |
| 03:44.25 | znf | are there more than one 8.1.5.0 version(s)? |
| 03:44.48 | Gethe | only one, or were you saying you found it? |
| 03:44.48 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/GfqF8jC.png |
| 03:44.57 | znf | I'm saying I have it |
| 03:45.06 | Gethe | odd |
| 03:45.35 | znf | there's no error |
| 03:49.06 | znf | anyway, gotta run to sleep, if you want me to test something, let me know, I'll check when I wake up |
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| 04:52.28 | Gethe | The only thing I can think of is some kind of conflict with an other addon. Try with just Aurora enabled. |
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| 05:27.30 | Simca | i will say that i really like how it shows the folder path now for the current install |
| 05:27.42 | Simca | instead of just saying 'WoW 1' 'WoW 2', 'WoW 3' etc |
| 05:39.27 | Funkeh` | yeah, it's especially great that it loads up showing ptr first instead of live |
| 05:39.43 | Funkeh` | meaning i have to swap to it every time i launch |
| 05:46.25 | Mr_Rabies | yup, same here |
| 05:46.32 | Mr_Rabies | i even told it not to manage addons for the ptr folder |
| 05:46.40 | Mr_Rabies | but it still does, and still prioritizes it |
| 05:47.00 | Mr_Rabies | when their guy came by looking for input i did give them that, at least |
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| 05:48.44 | Funkeh` | https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1105171-snucked-in-a-nerf/ wonder if this will ever stop happening |
| 05:50.13 | Mr_Rabies | my head aches |
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| 05:51.19 | Mr_Rabies | oh equipoise is a real word |
| 05:51.33 | Mr_Rabies | hurts a bit less now i guess |
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| 06:03.25 | Mr_Rabies | my brain went full "staff warlock" and "aggro every bears" |
| 06:04.01 | Mr_Rabies | https://wow.gamepedia.com/Kralnor |
| 06:35.32 | Simca | probably not @Funkeh` |
| 06:36.47 | Simca | just a result of how live hotfixes are a separate sort of 'dead end' developmentally speaking even though they're actively balancing around it |
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| 08:10.08 | ls- | @TSquare, sup, something is wrong w/ the tooltip's anchor type "ANCHOR_NONE", it doesn't work w/ item tooltips specifically, the tooltips is being set, you can get all the lines, IsShown and IsVisible return true, but the tooltip itself isn't visible on the screen, prob not rendered at all, the work around is to use "ANCHOR_PRESERVE" + ClearAllPoints, here's some code to repro the issue: https://pastebin.com/pWPM9qJG |
| 08:12.08 | ls- | or is Tom still on vacay? if yes, @TheDanW, could you pls forward it to someone? :> ^^^ |
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| 11:15.31 | znf | Gethe https://i.imgur.com/mZCfV3N.jpg |
| 11:15.36 | znf | oh, he's not here |
| 11:15.36 | znf | damn it |
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| 15:28.52 | Tercioo | any info on cvars reseting on logon? |
| 15:39.15 | AcidWeb | Nope. |
| 15:52.38 | Mr_Rabies | Tercioo, just a hunch that i'm working on - did you use the companion app? |
| 15:52.51 | Mr_Rabies | since the update |
| 15:53.13 | Mr_Rabies | wondering if somehow the "profile" the companion app uses is clearing the config cache |
| 15:53.31 | Mr_Rabies | since those settings are stored sserver side, right? |
| 15:57.08 | Tercioo | 2 years ago on legion I did use the world quest companion app |
| 15:57.59 | Mr_Rabies | ah okay so there goes that theory |
| 15:58.06 | Mr_Rabies | if you didn't use the new one |
| 15:58.41 | Mr_Rabies | my idea was that when you logged in using the compaion app, it was clearing some server-side cached settings, but i guess that's not it |
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| 16:21.58 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> It's literally the cars not saving. I tried to do some nameplate changes in default ui after I wiped my WTF folder and it put them back to default. |
| 16:22.09 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> Cvars * |
| 16:23.30 | Mr_Rabies | for me, personally, my config-cache.wtf file was wiped out |
| 16:23.45 | Mr_Rabies | which i believe the game retrieves from the server? |
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| 16:37.38 | Semlar | AIO keeps a separate copy of your cvars if you're running that |
| 16:38.12 | Semlar | it might be possible to retrieve your old settings |
| 16:39.55 | Mr_Rabies | oh neat, i just restored mine using shadow copy in windows |
| 16:39.59 | Mr_Rabies | but that's good to know |
| 16:41.43 | Semlar | i'm not sure if it survived whatever changes they made, but the "enforce cvars" option should theoretically recover from you deleting the cvar file |
| 16:42.27 | Semlar | although it might have had to have been enabled before that happened |
| 16:43.18 | Semlar | i don't remember if i had it keeping track of changes regardless of whether it was enabled |
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| 17:00.46 | Ketho | I've only seen it happen for specific nameplate cvars like nameplateMaxDistance |
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| 17:04.02 | TSquare | Good Morning |
| 17:07.07 | ls- | yo o/ |
| 17:13.29 | Mr_Rabies | okay this quest just fell off a cliff and i have no clue where to go lol |
| 17:13.52 | Mr_Rabies | trying to unlock kul'tirans, i went to the drust guy to cleanse the lumber and there was no breadcrumb to the next part |
| 17:16.48 | AcidWeb | TSquare: Sorry for buging you right after vacation but do you have any information about cvar saving issues in 8.1.5? |
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| 17:45.13 | TSquare | do you mean the pixel perfect cvars, or is this a new issue? |
| 17:46.35 | AcidWeb | No no completely new one. |
| 17:47.15 | AcidWeb | Obviously I don't tested all of them but most of nameplate cvars don't survive client restart. |
| 17:47.25 | AcidWeb | They return to default values. |
| 17:49.06 | AcidWeb | That was not an issue in last PTR build. |
| 17:49.36 | Tercioo | for example "nameplateMotion" for stacking / overlapping nameplates, selecting a new value in the interface panel > names and /reload reset the value set by the user |
| 17:57.32 | Mr_Rabies | somehow my entire config-cache.wtf got wiped out yesterday, so i dunno if that's the same issue or not |
| 17:57.56 | Mr_Rabies | i was playing fine all day, log out to update dbm, and bam, a bunch of stuff got reset, including which tutorials/prompts i've read |
| 18:08.48 | TSquare | @AcidWeb - thanks for the report, I'll start looking into it with my QA |
| 18:09.04 | AcidWeb | Good luck. |
| 18:10.40 | TSquare | @Mr_Rabies - I have not heard of people loosing their config. If you see it happening more or hear of more occurrences, let me know. I have seen sporadic mentions of this which I have always chalked up to "something went bad on the computer" and not anything systemic. However if you can find repro steps, I'd be happy to look into it. |
| 18:11.02 | Mr_Rabies | will do |
| 18:11.46 | Mr_Rabies | is the config-cache.wtf file retrieved from the server occasionally or something? forgive me for not being super aware with how much gets uploaded/pulled from the servers nowadays |
| 18:12.49 | Mr_Rabies | i did get disconnected a lot yesterday, so it could have happened in the middle of the server expecting an update from the client or something, and didn't "take" until i closed the game entirely |
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| 18:38.57 | ls- | @TSquare, something is wrong w/ the tooltip's anchor type "ANCHOR_NONE", it doesn't work w/ item tooltips specifically, the tooltip is being set, you can get all the lines, IsShown and IsVisible return true, but the tooltip itself isn't visible on the screen, prob not rendered at all, the workaround is to use "ANCHOR_PRESERVE" + ClearAllPoints, here's some code to repro the issue: https://pastebin.com/pWPM9qJG |
| 18:39.27 | ls- | you're offline the first time I posted it, and I didn't notice it, so I'm just posting it again, jic :D |
| 18:40.24 | ls- | ANCHOR_NONE works fine w/ achievements, spells, etc, but when it comes to items, it fails |
| 18:41.48 | TSquare | @ls- thanks I'll pass that on |
| 18:42.22 | ls- | yw :D |
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| 20:03.04 | TomCat | hey @TheDanW and @TSquare - not exactly wowUI but several users are reporting that they aren't getting Rokhan to appear with the quest Zalazane Returns (horde) despite having met the requirements... I tried to help one recheck the requirements and looks like he has them |
| 20:03.16 | TomCat | Support hasn't been helpful |
| 20:04.33 | nevcairiel | there is a bug report forum |
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| 20:10.06 | TomCat | thanks - looks like someone posted about it: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/bug-quest-horde-zalazane-returns-no-quest-npc/122735 folks are gonna start making a lot of noise about it soon I'm sure - this is on the path toward unlocking zandalari trolls if I understand it |
| 20:10.38 | nevcairiel | guildies of mine have unlocked the zandalari tho |
| 20:11.13 | TomCat | that quest was available since long ago - folks who are catching up will be encountering the issue |
| 20:11.31 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 20:38.52 | TSquare | @AcidWeb - our QA was not able to reproduce your anchor issue. Could you re-test with no addons running? |
| 20:40.16 | TSquare | @TomCat - you should post on the support forums with as much info as you can. They are looked over by staff. |
| 20:41.23 | TSquare | sorry mistell @AcidWeb @ls- we DID repro the cvar issue. We have NOT reproed the tooltip anchor issue. Sorry, my bad |
| 20:42.12 | AcidWeb | OK. I will cancel the ninjas. |
| 20:42.30 | TSquare | actually on the cvar issue: my QA tester had noticed it yesterday evening, and was already writing it up |
| 20:45.00 | AcidWeb | Can we expect hotfix? This is kinda a big one. |
| 20:55.46 | Tercioo | I second that |
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| 23:15.51 | Ketho | I noticed starter edition accounts aren't allowed to emote, is this new for 8.1.5? |
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| 23:52.48 | znf | uhm, anyone using Notepad++? |
| 23:52.58 | znf | and... whoever that guy is - ever had your settings completely wiped out? O.o |
| 23:53.42 | nebula | seems fine? |
| 23:55.27 | znf | well, crap |
| 23:56.52 | znf | for some reasons, backblaze is not backing up my user directory |
| 23:56.54 | nebula | i use the "cloud" settings, only time i've seen it mess it is when it can't access the folder for whatever reason |
| 23:57.02 | nebula | mess up* |
| 23:58.26 | znf | well, no idea what happened |
| 23:58.45 | znf | my "other" configuration files are there - like stylers.xml, userDefineLang etc. |
| 23:58.54 | znf | but config.xml was reset |
