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| 04:13.59 | Fisker- | Funkeh` it means basically gutting Blizzard of all individuality |
| 04:20.07 | Fisker- | it's not even because they're hurting on financials |
| 04:20.11 | Fisker- | they're doing ebtter than before |
| 04:20.14 | Fisker- | better |
| 04:37.59 | Corrodias | but are they doing the best possible?? are they consistently exceeding expectations, which grow exponentially to match? |
| 04:42.04 | Fisker- | They have not reach 101% market saturation yet |
| 04:42.09 | Fisker- | and I suspect they never will |
| 04:42.14 | Fisker- | reached* |
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| 06:18.01 | AcidWeb | They brag about record profits and lay off CMs when communication level is terrible. |
| 06:18.44 | AcidWeb | And that message from J. Allen Brack... Corporate PR BS. |
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| 06:21.16 | ls- | "record profits" isn't all money humanely or unhumanely possible :D |
| 06:21.40 | ls- | inhumanely* |
| 06:22.41 | AcidWeb | Maybe they need money for more phones. |
| 06:32.18 | AcidWeb | It is really hard to watch transformation of Blizzard over last 1-2 years. |
| 06:33.49 | ls- | get a phone then :P |
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| 07:27.16 | tz | they're basically being run into the ground |
| 07:27.24 | tz | shame, really |
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| 11:43.20 | foxlit | I like how there are no longer a few dozen Blizzard_Stuff folders in Interface\AddOns. |
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| 14:02.18 | Mr_Rabies | mine still has them |
| 14:33.36 | Funkeh` | delete them and they wont return |
| 14:39.48 | Stanzilla_ | foxlit: that changed in WoD or so? |
| 14:39.52 | Stanzilla_ | maybe early Legion |
| 14:41.56 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 15:27.39 | TomCat | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.29 | TomCat | the recipe entails: Make a ScrollingMessageFrame which inherits ChatFrameTemplate and has the minimum hidden elements to make ChatFrameTemplate happy. Ensure hyperlinksEnabled="true" on this frame. Any child of this frame you want to put your clickable element on, such as SimpleHTML for example, |
| 15:30.30 | TomCat | must have the property propagateHyperLinksToParent="true" |
| 15:30.57 | TomCat | this will propagate the click to the protected blizzard function that is part of the ChatFrameTemplate |
| 15:31.08 | TomCat | no security errors whatsoever |
| 15:32.09 | TomCat | no taint |
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| 16:13.27 | foxlit | It's okay, someone else (like, say, Swatter) will taint SetItemRef for you. |
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| 16:26.51 | znf | foxlit, still waiting for M6 faction fix :( |
| 16:29.17 | foxlit | that might be Soon⢠|
| 16:31.23 | foxlit | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_terms_spelled_with_⢠<< the loneliest category. |
| 16:33.26 | foxlit | (more seriously, I haven't started, and the prospects of replicating that outside of the raid seem bleak. It might be helpful to know what events fire to indicate that race switch, and how to distinguish it from all the other cosmetic-only race switches in the world.) |
| 16:35.21 | TomCat | had a run in with Swatter tainting functions your addon calls I take it? |
| 16:36.04 | TomCat | at least there's a chance my addon won't get blamed for it |
| 16:36.13 | foxlit | no, I don't run that many addons (or Swatter); it was just the first recognizable name on the list. |
| 16:36.38 | foxlit | (the ! prefix worked against it there) |
| 16:36.47 | TomCat | hah |
| 16:39.25 | TomCat | had I not found those extra hyperlink related attributes, I was well on my way to making a stripped down chat frame that could be positioned directly over any button graphic I wanted... kinda hackish but would have been safe, worked, and end users wouldn't notice anything odd |
| 16:42.14 | TomCat | now if I can make an addon that will stop these recently arrived loud birds from cawing outside starting from 6am O |
| 16:42.21 | TomCat | I'll have something useful |
| 16:44.41 | znf | foxlit, you get spells unlearned? :D |
| 16:57.08 | foxlit | could you /eventtrace through the transition? Run /eventtrace, sit still for a few seconds, hover over and remove any events which fired during that time, trigger the race change, then screenshot everything that fired. |
| 16:59.19 | znf | uhm |
| 16:59.33 | znf | that's gonna be A LOT of events tough |
| 16:59.38 | znf | kind of hard to do |
| 17:08.10 | znf | only way I can do it is if I zone alone with my lockout |
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| 17:16.53 | foxlit | yeah, it's rather inconvinient. You can remove irrelevant events early or retroactively, but it probably breaks if (way) too many things happen. |
| 17:19.04 | znf | foxlit, oh, I can figure it out now when I leave the raid |
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| 17:20.59 | znf | foxlit, UPDATE_FACTION |
| 17:21.26 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/MP8hcZZ.png |
| 17:26.27 | foxlit | I think that's a reputation-related thing. |
| 17:28.06 | foxlit | I think there's supposed to be a tiny red X to the left of the timestamps, so you could get rid of all the BAG_UPDATE, SPELL_DATA_LOAD_RESULT, etc spam, and see if anything else interesting fired earlier. |
| 17:33.48 | znf | foxlit, well, I'm not sure which triggers because of zoning out of raid |
| 17:34.01 | znf | and which does from swapping the faction |
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| 17:38.31 | znf | foxlit, ok, here's what I got - shitloads of unit_inventory_changed |
| 17:38.42 | znf | shitloads of unit_attack_speed |
| 17:39.06 | znf | language_list_changed |
| 17:39.08 | znf | unit_faction |
| 17:39.18 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/KuQk6WW.png |
| 17:39.54 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/qnE54PL.png |
| 17:40.19 | znf | well, everything fucking triggers :-| |
| 17:40.31 | znf | isn't there an event log that I can dump? |
| 17:43.47 | foxlit | unfortunately, the convenient export/serialization mechanism is to clobber a saved var. |
| 17:44.16 | foxlit | it's also super odd that UPDATE_FACTION fired without a unit. |
| 17:44.18 | znf | tell me how |
| 17:44.54 | znf | I can repeat the test, seems that the faction swap triggers 2-3 seconds after you zone in |
| 17:46.16 | foxlit | /run local t,f= {}, CreateFrame("Frame"); f:RegisterAllEvents() f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(s, ...) t[#t+1] = {...} end); SomeSavedVariableName = t |
| 17:46.55 | foxlit | but, again, that needs some addon to declare a saved variable whose contents you don't care about, which is rare. |
| 17:46.59 | znf | and how do I make sure that the actual addon doesn't save it? |
| 17:47.03 | znf | I don't care about "simulationcraft" :P |
| 17:47.11 | znf | it's literally just saving my char name and realm |
| 17:47.41 | foxlit | You can then replace SomeSavedVariableName with SimulationCraftDB |
| 17:49.45 | znf | There we go: https://hastebin.com/oragipavut.lua |
| 17:50.29 | znf | Oh. |
| 17:50.30 | znf | "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM", -- [1] |
| 17:50.30 | znf | "You have learned a new passive effect: |cff71d5ff|Hspell:79738:0|h[Languages]|h|r.", -- [2] |
| 17:51.01 | znf | uhm, but that will work only with english client, nvm |
| 17:58.38 | foxlit | Check what this prints to chat when changing factions: /run f=CreateFrame("Frame") f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_FACTION") f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(_, _, u) if u == "player" then print(GetTime()%100, UnitFactionGroup("player"), UnitRace("player") end end) f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_FACTION") |
| 17:59.28 | foxlit | er, /run f=CreateFrame("Frame") f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_FACTION") f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(_, _, u) if u == "player" then print(GetTime()%100, UnitFactionGroup(u), UnitRace(u)) end end) f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_FACTION") |
| 17:59.46 | znf | crap, I'm a group now |
| 18:10.17 | znf | foxlit, https://i.imgur.com/BLp9qYv.png |
| 18:12.27 | znf | foxlit, ...but when zoning in: |
| 18:12.31 | znf | [20:12:17] 70.356000000145 Horde Undead Scourge 5 |
| 18:13.23 | znf | should have been Alliance |
| 18:16.34 | foxlit | and just /dump UnitFactionGroup("player"), UnitRace("player") |
| 18:19.10 | foxlit | probably also /dump UnitFactionGroup("player", true), UnitRace("player") |
| 18:20.16 | znf | foxlit, https://i.imgur.com/EEVIn2T.png |
| 18:20.38 | foxlit | and /dump UnitRace("player", true) |
| 18:20.56 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/TlHm2wN.png |
| 18:21.00 | znf | I'm alliance now, btw |
| 18:21.18 | znf | Anything else I can do? I'm leaving the group soon |
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| 19:19.00 | foxlit | No, I think we're okay for now. I don't know how they're masquerading race, but I suppose it doesn't matter: you could just query against your original race and the modified faction, and do the math on what you've been transformed to yourself. |
| 19:20.53 | znf | listen to update player model and then check faction? :P |
| 19:37.08 | foxlit | foiled by the first iron boot flask you use. |
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| 23:54.14 | znf | foxlit, but flask doesn't change faction, afaik? |
| 23:56.30 | foxlit | the problem, if one exists, is figuring out which race you got transformed to. |
| 23:57.20 | znf | doesn't seem you can :( |
| 23:57.29 | foxlit | (imagine that for the next tier, they pull the same stunt again but with a different race mapping) |
