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| 00:56.15 | znf | I'm baffled on how we used the flight map in the old expansions, before the zoom improvements |
| 00:56.38 | znf | When I try to fly now in the old world, it always takes me a bit to figure out where I want to go O.o |
| 00:58.04 | nebula | look at the world map, check the name of the fp you want to go to, then find it on the flight map |
| 00:58.11 | Motig | don't forget there used to be a lot less flight points in the earlier expansions, so there wasn't as much clutter |
| 00:59.23 | znf | nebula, yeah, that's what I'm saying |
| 00:59.37 | znf | it's so inconvenient compared to the map in broken shore/bfa :P |
| 00:59.39 | nebula | it's just how things were :p |
| 00:59.53 | znf | and my memory is hazy, I don't remember much from the old days |
| 01:00.13 | TomCat | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.20 | TomCat | much much much slower :) |
| 01:00.22 | foxlit | with no in-the-world content, there were like 3 flights you took, ever. |
| 01:00.30 | nebula | cata is when old world fp exploded all of the place, i think, it was like one or two a zone before that |
| 01:00.48 | znf | yeah, I know it's slower using the FP |
| 01:00.54 | znf | which is... stupid :P |
| 01:01.00 | znf | what's it capped at? 280? |
| 01:01.25 | TomCat | and it's not as the crow flies |
| 01:02.27 | znf | https://wow.gamepedia.com/Flight_path#Speed |
| 01:02.30 | znf | I see |
| 01:02.48 | znf | weren't they different a bit pre-cataclysm? |
| 01:03.06 | znf | as in, specific areas used different speeds |
| 01:03.32 | znf | I vaguely remember that the guy in Borean Tundra, what's his name dwarf, had a much slower FP than the rest |
| 01:04.51 | nebula | dunno, maybe it just seemed slower due to the terrian around the path |
| 01:06.27 | znf | meh, anyway, I'm doing these to get the Naxxy pet and then I'm done |
| 01:06.34 | znf | screw that horse-toy |
| 01:06.36 | znf | too much effort |
| 01:06.49 | znf | or, rather, too much time |
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| 01:09.53 | znf | in retrospect, I should have set up a route with Routes |
| 01:12.57 | znf | also, they didn't put the bucket in the new arathi :-| |
| 01:13.48 | TomCat | good thing you can talk to an npc to go back in time |
| 01:17.01 | znf | yeah, but it's on the other end of the map |
| 01:17.33 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/RFqBwQ3.png |
| 01:18.48 | znf | so there's no way I'm doing that flight twice |
| 02:24.01 | Semlar | flight paths don't travel at a static speed |
| 02:25.00 | Semlar | it varies based on the path it takes |
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| 02:52.23 | znf | Semlar, 28% into lvl30 |
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| 04:02.40 | TomCat | any good way to get the relative path that my lua is loaded from (i.e. to dynamically find the location of blp files included in the library I'm working on) - tried some debugstack parsing but it's limited since the path gets truncated |
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| 05:16.20 | Semlar | TomCat: if this is for an embedded library you could just require that they place it under a certain directory in their addon and get their addon name from the api, or have them provide the path to it in a function |
| 05:21.31 | Semlar | why does the library need its own textures? |
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| 06:03.03 | TomCat | the textures are an alpha mask and a greyscale background used to create a custom colored minimap arrow |
| 06:05.02 | TomCat | I just thought it'd be safer to just require the blps be kept in the same place as the lua so one dev can't botch up the path and ruin it for other devs also using the same library |
| 06:06.03 | TomCat | and avoid each dev loading their own blp from their addon path when it can all come from the same shared location |
| 06:07.07 | TomCat | I suppose that can be prevented if there's some way to detect if the image loads before registering with libstub |
| 07:08.29 | nevcairiel | you cant really get the path, debugstack is the best bet, but as you say it gets truncated |
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| 13:17.16 | znf | Is anyone getting disconnected when swapping between characters? |
| 13:17.24 | znf | I've been getting them since bfa almost daily |
| 13:17.33 | znf | I log out my main, log my alt, loading screen -> disconnected from server |
| 13:19.16 | foxlit | no. |
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| 13:33.14 | znf | weird, any ideas how I can debug it? |
| 13:33.25 | znf | it's also not happening when I log on for brief periods of time |
| 13:33.35 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 13:33.42 | znf | seems it's happening only if I stay logged on for 1hour++ |
| 13:33.43 | bluspacecow | ~seen my brain |
| 13:33.44 | purl | bluspacecow: i haven't seen 'my brain' |
| 13:33.52 | bluspacecow | ~seen blusadcow |
| 13:33.52 | purl | blusadcow <~bluspacec@2404:4402:1349:7e00:ed81:33c7:b233:65ee> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3d 22h 28m 5s ago, saying: 'sounds like a sausage'. |
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| 13:34.01 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 13:40.18 | foxlit | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvMipY-_WV8 << ...?! |
| 13:44.32 | znf | OPie Roulette? |
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| 13:50.18 | foxlit | It looks like the RE code has a wildly different idea of where the ring/mouse cursor is compared to the insecure renderer, but I can't seem to replicate this. |
| 14:38.42 | foxlit | heh, wow editboxes respond to ctrl+d, ctrl+f, ctrl+b, ctrl+k. |
| 14:53.19 | znf | You think in WoW 50.0, my grand-grand-grand kids will have a permanent broom mount? |
| 14:55.53 | AcidWeb | No. |
| 14:56.27 | AcidWeb | In WoW 50 all players will get only darkness and dropdown taint. |
| 14:56.34 | nevcairiel | if you wante da no-cast-time mount, you would play a druid |
| 14:56.40 | nevcairiel | so get off our lawn |
| 14:56.54 | znf | I didn't say that |
| 14:57.01 | znf | I don't want it for the instant cast |
| 14:57.53 | znf | we have warlocks, mages |
| 14:58.00 | znf | the wizard fantasy is in demand :P |
| 14:58.15 | znf | they could make it insta-cast during hallow's end |
| 15:01.00 | znf | Imagine the broom being a mount drop in Drustvar... |
| 15:01.01 | znf | :P |
| 15:01.12 | znf | or, witches in drustvar using brooms as mounts |
| 15:01.26 | znf | hundreds of witches hovering some... building? tree? all on broom mounts |
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| 16:07.00 | Semlar | TomCat: you could ship it as a separate addon that other addons can use instead of embedding it (like tomtom), or use one of the built-in minimap arrow textures |
| 16:11.54 | TomCat | thanks.. I've solved it based on one of your earlier suggestions. I'll require that it be located in a specific folder for it to function/enable and that folder being short enough that I can verify even from a part of the addon name that it's in the right place |
| 16:12.48 | TomCat | wrong folder, no libstub registration, no workie |
| 16:20.39 | TomCat | I like the built-in minimap textures but it's impossible to recolor them as they sit without losing much of the contrast (i.e. the result looks cheesy) but I can reproduce them in about any color with a couple of blp's < 1k each |
| 16:21.43 | TomCat | got it working fairly nicely |
| 16:25.59 | bluspacecow | *runs out of pots so continously sheeps mob so can use bandages to heal up* |
| 16:26.02 | bluspacecow | #magelife |
| 16:30.10 | Alram | did someone say minimaps |
| 16:31.03 | TomCat | no you are mistaken. I said [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] |
| 16:31.13 | Alram | oh |
| 16:31.16 | Alram | :( |
| 16:35.29 | TomCat | why? |
| 16:41.18 | Alram | I like minimaps, not thunderfury |
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| 17:35.35 | Fisker | And friend |
| 17:35.39 | Fisker | s |
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| 19:08.10 | znf | *tap* *tap* |
| 19:08.18 | znf | 4 minutes before horde contributions start |
| 19:16.56 | znf | haha |
| 19:16.59 | znf | as soon as the quests showed up |
| 19:17.01 | znf | AH is dead |
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| 19:51.47 | foxlit | okay, this is becoming rather consistent: if fullscreen wow is the only app visible on screen, the monitor shortly turns off after whining about "no signal". If there's any other window composited on top of wow (like, say, the task manager), things stay fine. |
| 19:57.54 | nevcairiel | the single only component to ever cause something like that is your gpu or its driver, not the game itself really |
| 19:59.22 | nevcairiel | although i cant say thats a symptom i have heard often of |
| 20:03.53 | foxlit | meanwhile fullscreen sc2 just works fine. |
| 20:20.22 | znf | foxlit: DirectX weirdness? |
| 20:20.34 | foxlit | I'm curious why you think it couldn't be as simple as the game requesting some hilariously wrong refresh rate which is simply ignored if the windows compositor is active |
| 20:25.32 | nevcairiel | even if it did, if the driver accepts a refresh rate it doesnt know to be supported, t hen its still at fault |
| 20:26.17 | nevcairiel | of course your screen could be reporting something that it doesnt actually handle |
| 20:46.32 | foxlit | anyhow, the question is less "which single component is at fault here" and more "how do I diagnose this further?" |
| 21:14.22 | Mr_Rabies | see if it does it if you rename config.wtf |
| 21:14.33 | Mr_Rabies | and/or check config.wtf for stuff like stupid refresh rates |
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| 21:57.00 | foxlit | I ended up disconnecting and re-connecting the DisplayPort cable on the video card end; windows made hardware disconnected/connected noises and the problem fixed itself for the time being. |
| 22:12.54 | Mr_Rabies | i had something similar happening for a while and it turned out the dvi-hdmi cable i was using had no ferrites and was getting some interference, so it was super spotty |
| 22:13.18 | Mr_Rabies | but i doubt that's your problem if it's just wow |
| 22:13.51 | foxlit | maybe it tries and fails to do gsync magic. |
| 22:14.20 | foxlit | (and doesn't try if there's another window being composited on top of wow) |
| 22:28.04 | nevcairiel | if you're using windowed gsync, then it being overlaid by another window would stop that |
| 22:28.09 | nevcairiel | but then windowed gsync is kinda faulty anyway |
| 22:28.58 | nevcairiel | if you're using dx12, then compositing would swap it out of independent flip mode, most likely, changing the way the graphics is rendered |
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| 23:10.43 | foxlit | I think it's dx11, and windowed gsync is enabled, but I have no idea whether it's actually attempted or not. |
| 23:10.58 | foxlit | (also, how would fullscreen gsync work if wow has no fullscreen mode?) |
| 23:11.44 | nevcairiel | it doesnt, unless you use dx12, which can work around that with independent flip (basically, a game can take over the gpu if its the only thing on a screen) |
| 23:12.06 | nevcairiel | technically dx11 can also use that, but wow doesnt, for dx12 its mandatory |
| 23:15.41 | nevcairiel | but regardless windowed gsync is kinda whacky sometimes |
| 23:17.37 | foxlit | what does "kinda whacky" mean? |
| 23:18.11 | nevcairiel | randomly causes issues, usually just game stuttering |
| 23:36.01 | znf | neat |
| 23:36.14 | znf | sold stacks of grilled catfish for warfront contributions for 1000g/ea |
| 23:36.20 | znf | well, sold like ~10 of them |
| 23:36.27 | znf | then someone undercut back to 6g/ea (I was selling for 65g/ea) |
| 23:36.43 | znf | or was it 55? meh, somewhere in between |
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| 23:45.52 | znf | this is something that I can see Torhal doing with his cats https://i.imgur.com/NOWyhsc.gifv |
