IRC log for #wowuidev on 20180927

00:07.40foxlithttps://www.wowhead.com/search?q=Crimson+Ink+Well << why are there multiple items and which one is actually real?
00:08.44jaxdahlone stacks the other does not?
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00:09.22jaxdahl165745 doesn't seem to exist in game
00:09.29jaxdahl162114 does
00:10.19foxlithm, 745 is on ptr.wowhead only
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00:44.02Mr_Rabiesdoes postmaster mail BoEs to you 100% guaranteed?
00:44.09Mr_Rabiesthose that aren't looted
01:34.33znfI've gotten blues in my post, so probably?
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02:51.10foxlit|T doesn't seem to like :SetJustifyV("BOTTOM") on a fixed-size fontstring
02:51.25znfhttps://i.imgur.com/YxiCn9I.png
02:51.28znfwhat. the. fuck.
02:51.59znfThe warlock in the picture said he got instantly removed, too, but he got achievement and win
02:52.03foxlithttps://hastebin.com/raw/ugakesamaz
02:52.31znfI got deserter
02:53.16foxlithttps://go-hero.net/i/986ob7yu.jpg
02:55.02nebulatextures in fontstrings have always been weird
02:55.41nebulatrying to build a multiline string with textures in a tooltip is awkward
02:56.33znfwhat about doing some voodoo to insert emojis?
02:57.37nebuladoing replacements for the like the chatframe seems to be a little more well behaved
02:57.55nebulafor the like in chatframes*
02:58.32znfSomeone should totally implement emojis
02:59.51znfhmmm, I think this could have been the issue? https://i.imgur.com/FOXvyfr.png
03:00.11znfOr this was the result of me getting insta-booted?
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03:12.52foxlitalso, end the tyranny of the 2^31 limit for("%x"):format(n)
03:13.53foxlit[and in bit.* would be nice]
04:00.26ConstieThey really should add full Unicode support to the in-game chat so we can type hearts. And emojis.
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04:10.46nebulawould be nice
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12:40.01Thaodancan I have multiple levels in ace3 locales ? For example for a tooltip with the attribute name and tooltip?
12:40.33Thaodanlike L["EXAMPLE"] = { name="bla", tooltip="bla" }
12:45.59nevcairielno
13:13.30Thaodanso the workaround would be something like L["EXAMPLE.name"] or?
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13:32.53znfI'm noa Lua expert, but shouldn't tbat be L["EXAMPLE"]["name"] for a table like L = { "EXAMPLE" = { "name" = "bla", "tooltip" = "bla" } }
13:32.54znf?
13:33.04ls-the "workaround" would be having two separate entries
13:33.04ls-L["EXAMPLE_NAME"] = "bla"
13:33.04ls-L["EXAMPLE_TOOLTIP"] = "blabla"
13:35.02ls-or having in your default local, usually enUS
13:35.02ls-L["bla"] = true
13:35.02ls-L["blabla"] = true
13:35.02ls-and then in your other locale, for instance, ruRU
13:35.02ls-L["bla"] = "бла"
13:35.03ls-L["blabla"] = "блабла"
13:35.23ls-it really depends on how you want to setup your AceLocale
13:35.35ls-or you could ignore it entirely
13:35.36znfactually, my line errors out, what am I doing wrong?
13:36.10foxlitznf: you didn't actually write a complete line.
13:36.30ls-L = { ["EXAMPLE"] = { ["name"] = "bla", ["tooltip"] = "bla" } }
13:36.30ls-or
13:36.30ls-L = { EXAMPLE = { name = "bla", tooltip = "bla" } }
13:36.31foxlitis there anything that even remotely passes for a "History" icon in the default UI?
13:36.55ls-some scroll icon, I guess...
13:37.07ls-or note icons
13:37.44znffoxlit, the map icon?
13:39.13nevcairielhe specifically asked for ace3 locales, you cant have nested stuff in there like that, and for that matter also other common locale systems like the website import/export on curse don't support it as such. of course if you manually maintain everything, you can do whatever
13:40.05znfoh, you can't? why not, curious
13:40.26foxlitthe quest log book is an option, I suppose, but I'd rather not explicitly invoke quests.
13:40.36nevcairielbecause it exponentially increases complexity, and is largely useless
13:42.10foxlitsimplified: because whoever wrote AceLocale didn't need or want to support that.
13:43.41nevcairiel"someone didnt want to do it" is a reason for everything
13:43.45nevcairielit hardly expresses anything
13:47.32znfSomeone was bugging me to translate one of my addons, which contained about 3 lines of text in total
13:47.54znf"Didn't want to do it" is the exact thing that popped in my mind
13:47.55foxlitI'm just allergic to "exponentially" being used to describe adding maybe 50 lines of code.
13:48.10nevcairielif the existing code is 5 lines, how is that not false
13:48.13nevcairielnot true*
13:48.38nevcairielalso complexity isnt necessarily measured in lines of code
13:49.46foxlitbecause it's increasing by a constant.
13:53.01znfhey foxlit - less distractions, more goat planner
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14:06.01Thunder_Childfoxlit: hourglass?
14:06.31foxlitthat would be closer to waiting, not history.
14:06.32Thunder_ChildI would have suggested a clock, but I suspect that is already in use.
14:07.15foxlit(also, there is like one hourglass texture used for the PvP/Instance countdown, and it doesn't like being scaled down from its MASSIVExGIGANTIC dimensions)
14:08.18Thunder_ChildThere is one called ancient history.
14:08.24foxlit(unrelated tangent: someone should convert all those virtual textures floating around to atlases. I can probably even generate a list for that)
14:09.07foxlitI don't like item icons, because they tend to clip the object being shown, and ideally I want something complete with a black/transparent background.
14:10.41Thunder_ChildOne issue is things that usually denote age is already commonly used in WoW.  I.E. aged parchment.
14:14.26znffoxlit, https://www.wowhead.com/icon=136106/spell-nature-timestop ?
14:14.32znfah
14:15.05nevcairielitem and spell icons also have the annoying border
14:15.15nevcairielwhich you can probably zoom away if you wanted to, but yeah
14:15.17znfunrelated - whenever I see https://i.imgur.com/SO1BB4L.png I can only think of goatse
14:15.26foxlitI've decided to cheat by rephraing the original problem and using a loot chest instead, because it's a history of loot.
14:15.30ThiefMasterspeaking of spell icons.. i wonder if blizzard will ever replace the awful icon selector for macros with something else where you can e.g. search by icon name
14:15.40ThiefMaster(or is the macro UI something an addon can replace?)
14:15.45foxlitthat will literally never happen.
14:16.04znfyup, never
14:17.56foxlitthe client likes to pretend that it doesn't have access to file names, so there's no way it could search by something it "doesn't" have, while the names are inconsistent are rather inconsistent and at times only mildly related to texture content.
14:18.38foxlitthere is/was an addon that included a list of names and searched those, I think.
14:21.19znfwhere does it get the filenames?
14:22.13foxlitthe same place ExportInterfaceFiles art does, presumably.
14:22.42foxlit<PROTECTED>
14:54.10znfoh, 4 hours until Horde gets to turn in shit
14:56.36znfShould stock up on Ore and Cloth
15:13.56foxlit<PROTECTED>
15:14.18Thunder_ChildNOt super intuitive.
15:14.21Thunder_ChildNot*
15:15.09foxlithm?
15:15.32Thunder_ChildThe chest button.  Any reason not to have one that just says history?
15:17.07foxlitThat would be a wider button.
15:17.19Thunder_ChildAre you running out of space?
15:18.45Maldiviawait, so BlizzCon virtual ticket comes with limited WoW classic "beta" access?
15:18.58Thunder_ChildSo it would seem.
15:19.15foxlitjust think of it as having access to those demo machines they have at blizzcon.
15:19.50znfMaldivia, yes
15:19.54Maldiviawell, I'm just thinking, it means the client will be public for all the data-mining glory etc :D
15:20.01nevcairielits classic
15:20.05nevcairielthe data of all things is known
15:20.10Thunder_ChildNot sure how much glory there will be.
15:20.12znfwe datamined that 15 years
15:20.12znf:P
15:20.20znfor 14, whatever
15:20.46Maldivianot expecting anything new there, but still... you know people will dig in and start comparing vs original 1.12 data
15:21.03Thunder_ChildAnd complaning.
15:21.09znfGood
15:21.10Maldiviaof course
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16:08.28VIadls-: I miss the old toasts skin :<
16:08.34VIadthe new "default" one is a bit different
16:10.41ls-yeah, I intentionally made it darker and less brown...
16:14.28foxlithttp://edgecast.blizzard.com/tpr/wow/config/62/df/62df0fecacf5ad5bcb8c670a7a2a5a5d << grr.
16:15.05znfnot found?
16:15.24VIadcan you do legacy? :D
16:15.26znfbtw, we do know that the WoW Classic thingie will use the 8.x engine, right?
16:15.37VIad"default, legacy, elvui..."
16:16.19foxlitznf: yep. http://level3.blizzard.com/tpr/wow/config/62/df/62df0fecacf5ad5bcb8c670a7a2a5a5d works, it's just that I don't have code that tries alternative mirrors in case one of them isn't synced.
16:16.36znfI wonder if they are redoing some of the look of the zones (adding more polygons to the map designs)
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16:23.19ls-VIad, dunno about that >_>
16:23.34VIadI hope you at least made it skinnable so I can inject my legacy skin to it :P
16:24.52ls-ofc it's skinnable
16:25.05VIadlet's see where you expose your addonTable
16:33.14karl_w_w~lua
16:33.14purlLua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. It is the Portuguese word for "moon".
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16:33.56TSquareGood Morning
16:45.32ls-hi o/
16:48.42Alramfoxlit: mildly late, but don't use edge or cdn.blizzard.com
16:49.04Alramthey've caused trouble for me
17:12.24foxlit:SetButtonState("PUSHED") doesn't seem to show the PushedTexture on a UIPanelButtonTemplate button. I don't know if it ever actually did that, but only applying the pushed offset to the text seems... insufficient.
17:18.22CrosshashIt's because the art is 3 textures, but a button can only have 1 PushedTexture
17:19.47foxlitand I suppose the old old UIPanelButtonTemplate didn't actually cut the texture in 3.
17:22.03CrosshashRight. But it didn't look good when resized horizontally.
17:23.19foxlityet another reason for that 27-argument SetTexCoord :P
17:23.40Funkeh`is it just me or does that go up by 1 every time you mention it
17:24.27foxlitalas, that's still in scrollback buffer: foxlit: Clearly this calls for a 27-argument :SetTexCoord variant that would allow you to deform sub-regions of the texture.
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17:25.29znfVoid Elf racials seem OP
17:25.45CrosshashWhy not go all out, n arguments, just specify the RGB of every pixel.
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17:26.33foxlityou kid, but someone is going to ask you for the equivalent of data-URLs to specify texture content.
17:26.50foxlit"I want to put custom graphics in my WeakAuras strings!"
17:30.04foxlit(also on the list of things that are too unreasonable to even mention: custom convolution filters for textures, some sort of an automatic "generate me an outline of this texture" method, and proper hue/saturation filters)
17:41.26Thunder_Child(Yet you mentioned them anyway)
18:23.36znfuh, uh, 1 minute for expensive azerite!
18:25.51znfuhm, contributions are technically open
18:25.52znfbut no quests
18:27.16nevcairielit takes a minute or two to roll over completely
18:29.11znfyup, done
18:32.39znfso slow https://i.imgur.com/IVhUknv.png
18:32.49znf"let's increase the price for auctions, that's gonna go great"
18:34.06znfsomeone already bought all the weapon enchants
18:34.19znfcheapest one is now 11k
18:34.33znfwe need 3 for turn-ins
18:34.37foxlitare C_Garrison.CastItemSpellOnFollowerAbility / C_Garrison.CastSpellOnFollowerAbility protected?
18:35.01znfhttps://i.imgur.com/HHoXROB.png and gems are already 5k for a stack of 15...
18:35.08foxlit(I'd test, but there's a chance it's like 50k gold/call)
18:39.35CrosshashI don't think so. Can't you test with Legion missions?
18:41.10foxlitmaybe. Haven't checked if those are equivalent.
18:41.33znf5 minutes to create 15 auctions on the AH :-|
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18:44.32znfBought scrolls for 100g/ea, selling for 400g/ea
18:45.27CrosshashWell you could try calling them with invalid item/spell on the cursor, see if you get a spell error.
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20:51.30Maldiviahmm... are timewarped item stats really fucked or something?
21:12.55znfwow, I just sold 60 leather for 1200g
21:12.58znfbought them at 1g/ea O.o
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23:55.25znfI'm never going to pug-kill this boss *sigh*
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