| 00:00.37 | Gnarfoz | I love WQs that leave me stuck in combat forever |
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| 00:01.58 | Funkeh` | someone suggested going into "special app access" > "modify system settings" and disabling google apps there, but there's no way to prove that |
| 00:02.07 | Funkeh` | if it's true, at least it's a choice |
| 00:02.35 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how long opt-out choices will still be considered choices, heh |
| 00:03.01 | Gnarfoz | (also, how long until someone gets a big GDPR fine for doing opt-out instead of opt-in) |
| 00:06.49 | Funkeh` | probably shortly after article 11 & 13 pass |
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| 00:14.15 | Gnarfoz | hm? what I referred to is already in force via GDPR |
| 00:51.49 | foxlit | in unrelated news, there are uk screenings of æªæ¥ã®ãã©ã¤ in november. |
| 00:54.42 | Primer | What's an addon that can copy the button layout between two characters that are the same class and spec? |
| 00:54.53 | Primer | I remember using one to save button layouts |
| 00:55.31 | Primer | it was like /abs or something |
| 00:57.43 | Primer | action bar saver is what it was |
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| 10:42.26 | znf | https://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/9g7xxe/help_inside_dungeons_friendly_nameplates_have_8/ |
| 10:42.30 | znf | Guess I'm not the only one with that issue |
| 10:53.19 | AcidWeb | Seen it in legion. |
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| 16:22.16 | Mr_Rabies | <znf> https://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/9g7xxe/help_inside_dungeons_friendly_nameplates_have_8/ |
| 16:22.22 | Mr_Rabies | someone in my guild had this, but all the icons were HUGE |
| 16:22.29 | Mr_Rabies | i think for him, it was elvui |
| 16:23.16 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait no it was RealUI or something |
| 16:28.53 | znf | I don't have those |
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| 18:04.20 | Primer | Any addon suggestion to replace Yssdrop? All that did was implement a single minimap icon that, when hovered, exposed a UI with all addons' minimap icon links |
| 18:15.05 | Gnarfoz | minimapbuttonbag? |
| 18:15.35 | Gnarfoz | (or switch to an LDB display and get rid of the minimap icons) |
| 18:16.30 | Torhal | Yssdrop consolidated LDB "launcher" types, IIRC. |
| 18:17.11 | Torhal | I actually had it installed from WotLK up until BfA when I realized I hadn't used it in years. |
| 18:17.30 | Torhal | Ah, yeah: "this is a simple Broker Plugin for your Broker Launchers" |
| 18:18.07 | Torhal | So basically an LDB display which surfaced as an LDB feed. |
| 18:18.08 | Torhal | LD |
| 18:18.09 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:19.08 | Gnarfoz | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 18:19.11 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming #wowuidev, last said: 'My friend is visiting Serbia from Sweden and he's getting confused'. |
| 18:19.31 | Gnarfoz | didn't that have a date, once |
| 18:19.37 | Torhal | It did. |
| 18:20.35 | Torhal | Primer: Did it somehow break? The LDB spec hasn't changed in a decade... |
| 18:20.36 | Gnarfoz | ~lobotomy |
| 18:20.36 | purl | I feel different somehow. |
| 18:20.58 | Primer | Torhal: I did a purge of all non 8.x addons, so no idea |
| 18:21.07 | Torhal | Should still work fine. |
| 18:21.09 | Primer | because the lua errors were too much to contend with at the tme |
| 18:21.12 | Primer | installs |
| 18:21.30 | Primer | and it doesn't exist in twitch, it seems |
| 18:21.48 | Primer | Any other addon recommendation? |
| 18:22.15 | Torhal | It doesn't show on Twitch because the project is marked as Abandoned - hasn't been updated since 2012 |
| 18:22.48 | Torhal | I don't really know what to recommend - I never really use launchers so that's why I uninstalled YssDrop. You do use them, so... :D |
| 18:23.21 | Primer | Ok, thanks |
| 18:25.27 | Primer | LDB display is that big ass bar across the top? |
| 18:25.33 | Primer | I hate that |
| 18:25.48 | Gnarfoz | it can be whatever, but bar form is pretty popular |
| 18:28.17 | Torhal | Aye, can be whatever. YssDrop is effectively a display but shows itself as a feed. |
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| 18:28.33 | Torhal | So other displays can have its icon for the "popup" effect. |
| 18:29.16 | Torhal | LibDBIcon just turns the minimap into a display. |
| 18:29.48 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron's ButtonBin looks like it might be doing something similar, not sure if it itself provides a launcher that attaches to the minimap, though |
| 18:32.00 | Gnarfoz | https://www.reddit.com/r/wowaddons/comments/2rhope/looking_for_a_broker_addon_like_mbb/ |
| 18:32.01 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 18:38.03 | Primer | it's OK, I downloaded Yssdrop manually and it's working fine. Thanks. |
| 18:38.49 | Gnarfoz | looks like mitch0's Bazooka is intended to kind of be able to do it, but its "separate launchers for each bar" option generates launchers that don't actually toggle the bars, despite saying so |
| 18:39.20 | Gnarfoz | oh, it needs the "marked" option, that's weirdly named :D |
| 18:40.20 | Gnarfoz | neat. don't think I'll need this, but still ^^ |
| 18:44.41 | Torhal | Welp, just disabled World Quest Tracker because it apparently has a "module" called WorldQuestTracker_Taxi which cannot be disabled and doesn't play nice with Semlar's WorldFlightMap. |
| 18:45.22 | Semlar | world quest tracker was kind of terrible the last time i used it |
| 18:45.47 | Torhal | I have no idea why it would care at all about taxi nodes since it has no options listed for such a thing. |
| 18:46.04 | Semlar | i've been using worldquestlist which is ok except for the popups asking me to form a group every time i enter an area |
| 18:46.44 | Torhal | I have WorldQuestTab which seems decent enough but doesn't have any group-finder stuff that I can see. |
| 18:46.54 | nevcairiel | WQTracker used to be nice, these days it totally oversteps its featureset and is more annoying then anything |
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| 18:49.22 | Gnarfoz | broker_worldquests + angryworldquests for me (but mostly the former) |
| 18:50.37 | nevcairiel | i like WQTs basic function, its just so bloated |
| 19:18.02 | foxlit | hm, I wonder if you can express (s == "BAR" or s:match("%-BAR$")) in a single pattern. |
| 19:18.44 | foxlit | (so match "BAR" and "FOO-BAR", but not "FOOBAR") |
| 19:19.38 | nevcairiel | in regex sure, lua pattern .. would have to think hard |
| 19:20.30 | foxlit | s:match("([^-]?)BAR$") == "" |
| 19:20.58 | nevcairiel | dont think you can use string start as a char class :D |
| 19:21.12 | foxlit | you can't and it's not. |
| 19:21.26 | nevcairiel | oh right |
| 19:30.18 | foxlit | I think that works, but meh, it still ended up spilling out into another if: https://ghostbin.com/paste/woogx |
| 19:38.31 | Torhal | This is interesting. Some of the ESO author community is talking about making all libs standalone and ditching the LibStub methodology. |
| 19:39.02 | nevcairiel | weirdos |
| 19:39.07 | Torhal | lol |
| 19:40.46 | Gnarfoz | back to the roots |
| 19:44.16 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 19:44.16 | Fisker | i |
| 19:50.13 | Gnarfoz | how do I get to Boralus as level 100? |
| 19:51.29 | nevcairiel | get yourself ported |
| 19:51.48 | Gnarfoz | that's the conclusion I came to as well :-( |
| 19:52.07 | Gnarfoz | can I even learn BfA tradeskills at 100? ^^ |
| 19:54.31 | Fisker | why do you want to be there at 100 Gnarfoz? |
| 19:54.50 | Gnarfoz | to learn some BfA tailoring |
| 19:58.47 | Gnarfoz | and the answer is: I can't |
| 19:59.08 | znf | they're really making it damn hard to buy just 30 days of gametime |
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| 19:59.33 | Gnarfoz | just subscribe |
| 19:59.53 | znf | no! |
| 19:59.55 | znf | found it |
| 20:06.52 | Industrial | Anyone know where I can find some docs for LibPeriodicTable-3.1 ? |
| 20:07.01 | Industrial | https://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1 links are dead |
| 20:07.17 | Industrial | I want to use it in AdiBags maybe .. |
| 20:09.48 | foxlit | LibStub does nothing anyway |
| 20:10.57 | znf | oh god |
| 20:11.05 | znf | I never used bluetooth headphones for PC gaming |
| 20:11.09 | znf | the latency is... insane :D |
| 20:13.02 | foxlit | (so I guess the point was more to stop embedding libraries in addons using them) |
| 20:13.08 | foxlit | Industrial: https://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1/pages/api |
| 20:15.14 | Industrial | foxlit, thanks |
| 20:43.09 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, do the wartime donations change daily for the WF? |
| 20:43.33 | Mr_Rabies | i thought that seasoned loins was a donation option, but the cooking guy wants meaty haunches isntead |
| 20:44.15 | Alram | It's random |
| 20:44.28 | Mr_Rabies | random daily or random per event or what? |
| 20:44.48 | Alram | Unsure, per daily would make the most sense |
| 20:44.57 | Alram | I've only seen 1 day so far |
| 20:50.54 | Gnarfoz | but these turn-ins are once per warfront, not daily |
| 20:51.55 | nebula | pretty annoying that the price of everything you can turn in immediately jumped 500% |
| 20:53.33 | foxlit | the objective auto-completes anyway, right? |
| 20:54.17 | foxlit | so it's mostly a question of how much you're prepared to pay for azerite. |
| 20:54.24 | nebula | yea |
| 21:09.22 | nevcairiel | it goes faster if you turn stuff in, though |
| 21:09.58 | Elmoe | any native French language speakers (people using azerty keyboards) here? |
| 21:10.30 | Stanzilla | la baguette du fromage |
| 21:10.58 | Elmoe | having a strange problem because in BfA Blizzard is now uses the 'correct' acute accent in French language spell names (2019) whereas apparently all the azerty keyboards French players have only have the standard apostrophe 0027 |
| 21:11.22 | Elmoe | like 'Shadow Mend' priest spell is Guérison de lâombre |
| 21:11.44 | Elmoe | but French players type Guérison de l'ombre and the add-on says spell doesn't exist of course |
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| 21:11.59 | Elmoe | apparently this changed in BfA maybe? |
| 21:12.01 | Gnarfoz | why do you have a wrong apostrophe and a right one |
| 21:12.26 | Elmoe | because a French player with an azerty keyboard types with a standard apostrophe because thats what the keyboards have on them apparently |
| 21:12.36 | Elmoe | but the spell name is in 'proper' French uses the acute accent |
| 21:13.08 | Elmoe | but apparently when you are French you don't have a keyboard (unless you have some fancy one) that has that |
| 21:14.00 | Elmoe | at any rate, I'll just map 0027 to 2019 internally for players, just more wondering if BfA changed French language translations to be more strict now or something |
| 21:14.10 | Gnarfoz | (it's not like keyboard layouts are bound to the keyboard you have) |
| 21:14.30 | Elmoe | Gnarfoz: the average player isn't remapping keys they are just typing what is printed on the buttons heh |
| 21:14.36 | Gnarfoz | remapping wut? |
| 21:15.02 | Gnarfoz | there's like hundreds of keymaps in your OS, probably, none of them has the character you're missing? |
| 21:15.26 | foxlit | Elmoe: I think it's weird that you're mixing acute accents (é) and various apostrophe styles (â vs ') |
| 21:15.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that, too |
| 21:15.42 | Gnarfoz | or maybe a deadkey variant you could abuse? |
| 21:15.54 | Gnarfoz | (wait no, it's not actually an accent, so that doesn't make sense) |
| 21:16.01 | Elmoe | foxlit: its just what the players type, my guess whatever is common in the default French map in Windows |
| 21:16.17 | Elmoe | either the Windows default changed or Blizzard changed the spell names in BfA |
| 21:16.21 | Gnarfoz | just switch to it and check |
| 21:16.22 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:16.36 | Elmoe | either way I'll just have to map it for them |
| 21:17.02 | Gnarfoz | or Blizzard fixes their shit, since U+2019 is "RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK", not an apostrophe! :P |
| 21:18.11 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: but: Section 6.2 of the Unicode Standard 7.0.0 states: U+2019 [â¦] is preferred where the character is to represent a punctuation mark, as for contractions: âWeâve been here before.â |
| 21:18.40 | Gnarfoz | ... as opposed to... what? for an apostrophe? |
| 21:19.09 | Gnarfoz | that just describes the function of an apostrophe |
| 21:20.30 | foxlit | meanwhile, this blog post would like you to use U+02BC (MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE) instead. |
| 21:21.46 | Gnarfoz | I'd like to replace that blog post by an apostrophe |
| 21:23.13 | nebula | WHICH ONE |
| 21:23.25 | nebula | whoa, caps |
| 21:24.56 | Mr_Rabies | is there anything that puts timers on the debuffs on the target frame? i was using omnicc for that but it updated and cleared a bunch of my settings and stuff |
| 21:25.02 | Elmoe | https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html |
| 21:25.10 | Elmoe | apparently 2019 is the 'preferred' apostrophe now |
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| 21:29.11 | Gnarfoz | no. :P |
| 21:29.24 | foxlit | https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch06.pdf ctrl+f for "apostrophes" |
| 21:30.07 | Gnarfoz | shift+del for quickly forgetting about this stupidity :P |
| 21:30.21 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1041434810366013440 |
| 21:30.25 | Stanzilla | pigs started to fly today |
| 21:32.56 | Primer | well, he _is_ an asshole |
| 21:33.29 | Primer | Admitting one is an asshole is the first step. I wonder if this is his first admission. I admit I'm an asshole all day, every day...for the past...many years |
| 21:33.30 | Stanzilla | the news is that he now thinks he has to change |
| 21:34.19 | nevcairiel | sometimes a good asshole is what you really need |
| 21:34.38 | nebula | it's 2018, can't be mean to people anymore |
| 21:34.41 | Stanzilla | no homo |
| 21:36.42 | nebula | unless it's Stanzilla, fuck that guy |
| 21:37.25 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/zATDD23.png |
| 21:49.11 | Primer | But yeah, I've read some of his writings where the personal attacks are very...unprofessional |
| 22:06.47 | sylvanaar | Just read MysticalOS's post |
| 22:07.50 | sylvanaar | Didn't know he was the DBM guy |
| 22:26.50 | Stanzilla | which post |
| 22:28.02 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.deadlybossmods.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1135&f=3 |
| 22:38.46 | Mr_Rabies | also is there any way to increase the view distance on mining nodes? this is awful now |
| 22:39.34 | Mr_Rabies | they are literally appearing behind me at times on a ground mount |
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| 23:01.03 | znf | Was wondering why everything was so quiet |
| 23:01.08 | znf | I had warmode off |
| 23:23.16 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/cfGtb4E.png |
| 23:23.18 | znf | SON OF A BITCH |
| 23:23.45 | kd3 | wave goodbye to your syndicate rep |
| 23:24.25 | Mr_Rabies | seeing it in all caps made me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrg_h7_Z-bI [lyrics are probably nsfw] |
| 23:25.20 | znf | not cool blizz :( |
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