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| 00:19.38 | nebula | think so, there are zone ones that are like "gain x stat then when it expires grant everyone around you x/5 stat" |
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| 03:56.31 | Constie | Are you 1000% sure the spells are successfully being cast? |
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| 07:33.57 | VIad | for the horde, how does it feel to get to actually do the warfront scenario in advance? :D |
| 07:34.56 | VIad | I read a ton of crap on reddit #factiongate |
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| 07:55.00 | Alram | tfw bfa is about faction war, just mostly outside of the game |
| 07:56.20 | nevcairiel | because faction war doesnt make for good pve content, since you cannot have symmetry |
| 07:57.44 | nevcairiel | if there was faction-based challenging content, there would always be voices claiming how one faction has it easier |
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| 08:41.18 | Alram | someone here might know, but tomtom-like coordinates are per zone map right? |
| 08:41.28 | Alram | not per game map like azeroth, kalimdor etc |
| 08:41.44 | Alram | was debating adding these on my minimap site but not sure how they work yet |
| 08:42.05 | nevcairiel | yes they are 0-100 based on the actual UIMap |
| 08:42.10 | Alram | hmk |
| 08:42.23 | Alram | so i'll have to go parse those dbcs to get that working |
| 08:42.26 | Alram | probably doable |
| 08:42.35 | nevcairiel | adding them to a minimap thing seems a b it awkward |
| 08:42.51 | nevcairiel | since in overlapping parts you can even two or even more UIMaps apply to it |
| 08:42.51 | Alram | someone asked, thought it might be a nifty usecase |
| 08:43.01 | Alram | hm right |
| 08:43.25 | Alram | i guess i could show results for all uimaps that apply |
| 08:43.35 | nevcairiel | thats why any api to convert to those coordinates wants you to tell it which map to apply it to |
| 08:43.48 | Alram | i think game coord bounds per game map are stored in one of the DBCs |
| 08:45.08 | nevcairiel | UIMapAssignment is the one you are looking for |
| 08:45.37 | nevcairiel | it maps the UIMaps to the world coordinates |
| 08:46.31 | Alram | ah yeah thats the one |
| 08:46.31 | Alram | thanks |
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| 10:07.01 | znf | VIad: pretty boring to be honest |
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| 10:26.21 | znf | Someone at blizzard has a fetish for placing mobs in caverns/caves that have no apparent entry point, or the entrance is very far away |
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| 12:43.38 | Maldivia | znf: it's because a tortollan begins its life amidst great danger |
| 12:43.48 | znf | stabs Maldivia |
| 12:56.56 | VIad | aren't those just turtles? I figured tortollan and turtles are as similar and humans and apes |
| 12:57.22 | VIad | or are tortollans the final form of turtles that have lived for ten thousand years? |
| 13:06.56 | Maldivia | znf: I guess it's the new "an illusion. what are you hiding?" |
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| 13:57.48 | Industrial | Hi. |
| 13:58.14 | Industrial | What addon shows you the best ability to use right on theaction bar? there was one that highlighted the action button for you |
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| 17:44.06 | s_e | any realui folks hang out in here? |
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| 18:03.26 | Gnarfoz | neat, I have an 28.9 MiB DBCache.bin again, Alram, Simca_ :D |
| 18:03.32 | Alram | nice. |
| 18:03.37 | Alram | feel free to send |
| 18:03.39 | Gnarfoz | many hotfixes, handle it! |
| 18:03.42 | Alram | probably same issue |
| 18:03.51 | Alram | have you reinstalled since |
| 18:03.57 | Gnarfoz | yeah I think so |
| 18:03.57 | Alram | because something is thoroughly forked |
| 18:04.15 | Alram | not sure i asked last time but what locale again |
| 18:04.26 | Alram | digusting deDE or enGB/enUS? |
| 18:04.31 | Gnarfoz | enUS |
| 18:04.43 | Alram | a mystery for the ages |
| 18:05.09 | Mr_Rabies | is there still no way to tell if you know a weapon illusion without bringing up the illusion interface? |
| 18:05.19 | Mr_Rabies | it will even let you consume the illusion even if you already know it |
| 18:05.41 | Simca_ | nah, it lets you try but doesn't consume it, at least for most of them |
| 18:05.49 | Gnarfoz | Alram: https://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/bfa/ #3 and #4 |
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| 18:08.50 | Mr_Rabies | honestly surprised there isn't an addon that adds a "you already know this" tooltip |
| 18:09.27 | Mr_Rabies | oh welp https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/tomeofillusionscheck |
| 18:10.23 | Mr_Rabies | argh i hate that curseforge instead of sending curse:// links it downloads a .ccip file if you use the site |
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| 18:17.28 | s_e | so i'm guessing there's no realui folks in here? :) what sort of conventions do addon makers tend to use for settings files? is it in WTF somewhere normally? |
| 18:18.03 | Funkeh` | you don't get to choose |
| 18:18.04 | s_e | it's unusuably huge since I put the high res mode on, I don't really wanna have to config from scratch again >< |
| 18:18.17 | kd3 | addon authors don't really have a choice. they export a SavedVariable in their .toc file and that's what gets saved by the client |
| 18:18.50 | kd3 | https://wow.gamepedia.com/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
| 18:18.50 | s_e | ok, so can we manually edit those? I'm looking at config.wtf and it looks like it might be the thing but not 100% |
| 18:18.54 | Mr_Rabies | saving settings is in savedvariables, but if you mean like modifying settings that can be done a number of ways |
| 18:19.06 | Funkeh` | no, that's for the game, not addons |
| 18:19.42 | Funkeh` | if you actually know what you're doing, you can modify a savedvarible file for an addon. If not, don't. |
| 18:20.20 | Mr_Rabies | some insane authors save them in the saved variables, some less insane people put them in the .lua file somewhere, slightly less insane people at least use slash commands, and finally, the truly sane just make a gui for the interface panel |
| 18:20.21 | s_e | well, I can figure out what I'm doing. I basically just want to scale down modals so I can use them again, they go beyond screen boundaries |
| 18:20.38 | Chipzz | wtf... my position in login queue is going up? O.O |
| 18:21.05 | Funkeh` | does the addon you're using not have an ingame gui to configure that |
| 18:21.10 | s_e | it does |
| 18:21.12 | s_e | but it's in a modal |
| 18:21.14 | s_e | so i cannot see it |
| 18:21.23 | s_e | just the very middle |
| 18:21.28 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.54 | s_e | it's realui's high resolution setting, i'm not sure that's gonna do it (it's truly made everything into 10x the size |
| 18:21.55 | Funkeh` | using a custom ui scale isn't a good solution to anything |
| 18:21.58 | s_e | i'll give it a go |
| 18:22.09 | s_e | ) |
| 18:22.14 | s_e | yes and no |
| 18:22.24 | s_e | I need to actually be able to read text at 1440p |
| 18:22.27 | kd3 | temporarily lower the uiscale to see if you can see the whole modal, then change the scale back to 1.0 |
| 18:22.33 | s_e | wow doesn't do good relative scaling it seems |
| 18:22.38 | Funkeh` | then increase the size of the font |
| 18:22.41 | s_e | good plan kd3 |
| 18:22.44 | s_e | yeah i'm doing that |
| 18:23.04 | s_e | but also i want various aspects of the ui to not be teeny tiny too |
| 18:23.11 | Gnarfoz | Alram: is hotfix.log relevant to your interests? |
| 18:23.15 | s_e | but only selectively |
| 18:23.37 | Alram | It might give an idea what's going on |
| 18:23.40 | s_e | i need to manage my attention well with ui, so I'm particular about what information is what size |
| 18:25.01 | Funkeh` | okay? |
| 18:26.38 | s_e | so like, scaling various widgets is important, and currently my ui is unusuably broken, but i don't want to rebuild from scratch |
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| 18:27.57 | Funkeh` | yes, that reinforces the point that you shouldn't use a custom ui scale |
| 18:28.24 | s_e | yep, I'm noticing that's a problem with realui |
| 18:28.38 | s_e | but I like the rest of the package so I'm gritting my teeth |
| 18:29.19 | VIad | weakaura to check for raid buffs, simply does the check OnUpdate |
| 18:29.41 | VIad | maybe something changed the next rendered frame, who needs events? |
| 18:29.49 | Gnarfoz | I think you said that already |
| 18:29.54 | kd3 | it's like people never learned the lessons of KTM |
| 18:30.01 | kd3 | but of course not, that was more than a decade ago |
| 18:30.11 | VIad | https://wago.io/S1NMqphmm |
| 18:30.17 | VIad | 61 stars 7k views |
| 18:30.22 | VIad | OnUpdate x3 checks |
| 18:30.29 | Gnarfoz | kd3: these people don't even know what KTM is |
| 18:30.38 | s_e | I don't know what KTM is |
| 18:30.43 | Gnarfoz | (also, KLHTM) |
| 18:30.44 | VIad | motorcycle brand? |
| 18:30.49 | Funkeh` | threat meter |
| 18:30.54 | s_e | I'm new to addon dev stuff |
| 18:30.56 | s_e | oh I remember that |
| 18:30.57 | s_e | yeah |
| 18:31.01 | s_e | used it on Vael |
| 18:31.11 | s_e | looong time ago though |
| 18:31.12 | VIad | many vanilla addons were OnUpdate based as well |
| 18:31.20 | s_e | and back then my screen res was suited to wow |
| 18:31.26 | s_e | 1440p.. is not |
| 18:31.39 | Funkeh` | using 1440p just fine? |
| 18:31.40 | VIad | 1024x768 |
| 18:31.44 | kd3 | 1440p is fine. I've been playing on it for years |
| 18:31.49 | s_e | Viad that's the one |
| 18:32.12 | s_e | i mean, in terms of lots of addon devs haven't caught up to the fact it exists. Default UI is fine yes |
| 18:32.40 | Funkeh` | what would they do exactly? |
| 18:32.55 | Funkeh` | frame size and font size options in your addon, done |
| 18:32.55 | VIad | only gripe with WA is I can make a trigger but I can't read the trigger table in the "required for activation" custom function |
| 18:33.21 | VIad | like use baseline WA code that is way better but do a final tiny check as it triggers to override it to false or not right before |
| 18:33.32 | Chipzz | does anyone know how GM commands are handled by the UI? I heard GMs can use commands starting with a dot, but I can't find any trace in the ChatFrame cod at first sight |
| 18:33.42 | s_e | can you get the resolution from the API Funkeh` ? |
| 18:33.43 | VIad | console commands probably |
| 18:34.10 | VIad | "/console whois" > "You do not have permission to perform that function" |
| 18:34.16 | Gnarfoz | Chipzz: that's private server stuff |
| 18:34.31 | Chipzz | Gnarfoz: so modified client? |
| 18:34.39 | VIad | server chat handler :P |
| 18:34.41 | Gnarfoz | uh... no? the server parses your chat |
| 18:35.01 | Gnarfoz | oh, you mean GMs have a special client? yes, they do |
| 18:35.23 | s_e | ./console uiscale 0.1 |
| 18:35.37 | Gnarfoz | that's very tiny |
| 18:35.44 | Gnarfoz | (also, it's below the minimum ui scale) |
| 18:35.47 | s_e | and.. it's very doing nothing |
| 18:36.08 | s_e | yes, even the minimum is not small enough to bring the modals back on screen |
| 18:36.09 | Gnarfoz | minimum is 0.64, I think |
| 18:36.13 | s_e | yeah |
| 18:36.34 | s_e | this is why i wanted the text file, to |
| 18:36.35 | s_e | see |
| 18:36.38 | s_e | if i could figure out |
| 18:36.43 | s_e | this high res setting they have |
| 18:37.06 | s_e | i'll see if i can find something in the savedvariables, that's in WTF right? |
| 18:37.21 | Chipzz | Gnarfoz: I don't think Blizzard GMs have a separate client |
| 18:37.26 | Gnarfoz | yes, they do |
| 18:37.37 | Simca_ | ya they accidentally shipped it in wod beta |
| 18:37.42 | Simca_ | WoWGM.exe |
| 18:37.42 | Chipzz | Gnarfoz: you can find GM specific code in the standard client |
| 18:37.53 | Gnarfoz | that just means their code separation sucks |
| 18:37.55 | Simca_ | it contained a lot of extra slash commands and scripts mainly |
| 18:37.59 | Chipzz | for example in GlueXML |
| 18:38.14 | Simca_ | oh, in Lua? yeah probably the same Lua. |
| 18:38.20 | Simca_ | the binaries are split out though |
| 18:38.36 | Chipzz | but most likely that's just a debug build |
| 18:38.56 | Simca_ | they have separate addons |
| 18:39.09 | Simca_ | that power some additional functionality |
| 18:39.18 | s_e | found it |
| 18:39.21 | Gnarfoz | those clients are not even supposed to work outside of Blizzard offices |
| 18:39.24 | Simca_ | for example they have an eventtrace that has flags and argument names for all events |
| 18:40.24 | Chipzz | but since you said that was WoD beta, things could have changed since :) |
| 18:42.23 | Simca_ | sure |
| 18:42.59 | Chipzz | prolly not though since the trace in the standard client are pretty slim |
| 18:43.16 | VIad | think we're still eyes out for that special client leak a while ago :x |
| 18:43.54 | Simca_ | i think the versions are: wow.exe, wowT.exe, wowB.exe, wowTR.exe, wowGM.exe, and wowI.exe. those are the separate versions we've seen so far. |
| 18:44.21 | Simca_ | TR is probably for QA, it's an assertions-enabled release client |
| 18:44.25 | Chipzz | what are the other ones? debug builds? |
| 18:44.35 | Simca_ | I is internal, full symbols |
| 18:44.54 | VIad | give wowI please |
| 18:45.08 | Simca_ | that's only leaked once, in WoD alpha |
| 18:45.30 | s_e | have they made any significant engine changes since then? |
| 18:45.34 | Chipzz | that probably wouldn't help you since you can't connect to anything due to version mismatch |
| 18:45.46 | Chipzz | you would get as far as the GlueXML login screen |
| 18:45.55 | Simca_ | yeah, s_e |
| 18:46.03 | Chipzz | you could get a console from there, but does the console allow yu to run lua? |
| 18:46.25 | Simca_ | wowI doesn't even launch without fiddling, there's a bunch of blizz vpn urls hardcoded into it |
| 18:46.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah what I said earlier |
| 18:46.48 | Chipzz | /etc/hosts FTW :) |
| 18:47.00 | Chipzz | or local bind :p |
| 18:49.15 | Chipzz | is talking about reverse engineering the .exe allowed here at all? |
| 18:51.16 | Gnarfoz | doubtful |
| 18:51.17 | Thunder_Child | I suspect not. |
| 18:51.47 | Simca_ | nah there's other channels, forums, and discords for that |
| 18:55.45 | Chipzz | dunnow if it's coincidence or not, but thought it might be good to mention: |
| 18:56.23 | Chipzz | have all >20 level toons on one server, so can't login on any of them without subscription |
| 18:56.49 | Chipzz | if that server has a login queue, your waiting time may go UP instead of down if you try to login |
| 18:57.14 | Chipzz | game time had expired, tried to log in, waiting queue goes up instead of down |
| 18:57.28 | Chipzz | I refresh, try to login again, now queue time goes down |
| 18:57.50 | Chipzz | so looks like Blizzard is giving priority to paying clients :p |
| 18:58.15 | Gnarfoz | no way |
| 18:59.12 | Chipzz | *not sure if sarcasm or not$ :p |
| 19:05.19 | Mr_Rabies | i think they even directly say that you get reduced priority with a starter account |
| 19:08.56 | Mr_Rabies | man arathi is a ghost town |
| 19:09.06 | Mr_Rabies | been standing near this rare for 10 minutes and no one has shown up |
| 19:11.27 | Mr_Rabies | sure wish there was an addon out there that could make forming a group nice and simple, but instead i'm just gonna do something else because arathi is a ghost town |
| 19:12.08 | Mr_Rabies | 8 whole people lol |
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| 19:28.55 | Gnarfoz | someone remind me |
| 19:29.15 | Gnarfoz | what's the easiest way to fix something that used UnitBuff(unit, "spellname") until now? |
| 19:31.36 | Stanzilla | WA_GetUnitBuff |
| 19:31.57 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/WeakAuras/WeakAuras2/blob/master/WeakAuras/AuraEnvironment.lua |
| 19:31.58 | Stanzilla | copy pasta |
| 19:31.58 | Gnarfoz | does what work for nameplateN? |
| 19:32.11 | Stanzilla | it should |
| 19:39.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it does, thanks |
| 19:49.04 | Alram | wowi mostly runs fine Simca :p |
| 19:49.33 | Alram | just need server to support it as it is slightly different |
| 19:50.38 | Alram | schlumpf has had it working I think |
| 19:52.53 | Alram | seeing only mac leaked he was one of the few on the planet that could get it working of |
| 19:52.59 | Alram | of course* |
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| 20:29.10 | znf | Gnarfoz: wth is klhtm |
| 20:29.56 | Gnarfoz | klh threat meter? |
| 20:30.02 | Gnarfoz | the original fps waster |
| 20:30.12 | znf | Never used that |
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| 20:32.46 | s_e | Mr_Rabies, WQL does some of that group finding ease of use stuff. Sadly not for rares. |
| 20:33.37 | s_e | I can't even remember what it looks like, I lost a bunch of my WoW screenies from Vanilla/TBC |
| 20:34.12 | s_e | KLH that is |
| 20:34.52 | s_e | https://legacy-wow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/TBCIcons/9935408_orig.jpg |
| 20:35.06 | s_e | I remember it now |
| 20:35.42 | znf | I should get omen again |
| 20:36.15 | znf | I've pugged some tanks that had issues if I had good crits |
| 20:37.13 | Stanzilla | how does omen help there |
| 20:37.26 | Gnarfoz | he might know his headroom |
| 20:37.33 | Stanzilla | useless |
| 20:37.38 | Stanzilla | if you pull aggro you fade anyway |
| 20:37.42 | Stanzilla | no need to know it beforehand |
| 20:37.45 | Gnarfoz | he doesn't have that bound, I'm sure |
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| 20:54.34 | Mr_Rabies | <s_e> Mr_Rabies, WQL does some of that group finding ease of use stuff. Sadly not for rares. |
| 20:54.55 | Mr_Rabies | WQL is so heavy handed but if i could turn off more of the stuff and continue using angry world quests i'd be set |
| 20:55.01 | Mr_Rabies | with it |
| 20:55.12 | Primer | Looking for some guidance with finding the player whose pet cast hero in a weak aura. Thoughts as to how this would be approached? I don't want to rely on not having exhaustion. |
| 20:55.37 | Primer | A WA that read the combat log for specific spell ids, but then what? |
| 20:55.53 | Primer | how to derive the owner of the pet who cast pet hero? |
| 20:56.29 | Primer | I already have a WA that triggers when the spell is cast, but can't get the owner info |
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| 21:27.21 | znf | Gnarfoz: I have all spells bound or on my bars |
| 21:27.34 | znf | Even purify disease |
| 21:27.48 | znf | Even mind vision is on my bar |
| 21:28.58 | znf | Primer: uhm, doesn't tiptac put the hunters name in the bloodlust tooltip as caster? |
| 21:29.05 | znf | Or am I remembering wrong? |
| 21:29.11 | Gnarfoz | that's not something tiptac does |
| 21:29.24 | znf | I wonder what then |
| 21:29.45 | Primer | I don't know. I'm actually just helping a friend. |
| 21:29.53 | znf | Now you made me curios |
| 21:30.13 | Primer | Well, he piqued my interest too, when I couldn't find any thing that worked |
| 21:30.18 | znf | Gonna check at home |
| 21:31.44 | znf | Primer: doesn't the cleu show the source as X's pet? |
| 21:32.00 | Primer | His code is all in WA, and it's just that, code |
| 21:32.26 | Primer | triggering on UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED or something |
| 21:37.04 | Primer | You saying it might come down to parsing the tooltip text? |
| 21:37.46 | znf | No |
| 21:38.02 | Primer | I've done crap like that before |
| 21:48.43 | znf | hmm, now I actually DO wonder what addon puts the caster and spellid on my spell tooltips |
| 21:49.06 | znf | s/spell /aura / |
| 21:55.53 | znf | Primer: can't you just check [7] from FindAuraByName ? |
| 21:58.12 | Primer | relays |
| 22:00.19 | znf | also instead of _spellcast_succeeded why not use spell_aura_applied ? |
| 22:00.40 | Primer | exhaustion? |
| 22:01.29 | znf | wouldn't that be more useful? |
| 22:01.32 | znf | not sure what he's trying to do |
| 22:01.43 | Primer | know who cast hero despite exhaustion |
| 22:02.39 | znf | interesting, what does he need that info for, I'm curious |
| 22:05.19 | Primer | Knowing who trolls |
| 22:05.23 | Primer | Why else? |
| 22:06.00 | znf | uhm, mkay |
| 22:10.06 | znf | I mean, I'm not sure how it constitutes trolling if the hunter re-casts bloodlust for that guy who died and got combat-rezzed :D |
| 22:22.27 | Constie | TipTac does it by default, and Raven can also do it for its aura frames. |
| 22:22.40 | s_e | what references do you guys use for the API? wowinterface had a docs section at one point but that seems to be gone |
| 22:23.11 | znf | ~framexml |
| 22:23.11 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on https://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 22:23.21 | s_e | specifically interested in font handling |
| 22:23.28 | s_e | thankyou |
| 22:23.57 | s_e | advice on where to start for font handling? specifically resizing |
| 22:24.16 | znf | stop fucking with the UI scale first :D |
| 22:24.34 | s_e | yeah I figured out that thing |
| 22:25.04 | s_e | I manually edited the savedvariables for realui to get it back to a sane state |
| 22:26.05 | znf | hey Torhal - is there a way to enable cmd/alt swapping in macOS for a single app? |
| 22:28.00 | s_e | the fact that lua has mixins and a prototypes makes tracking down configuration a real pain in the arse. |
| 22:30.55 | s_e | -a |
| 22:32.37 | s_e | so I've found SharedFonts.xml, which seems to be where the font sizing actually gets defined, is this hard set in the config or can it be dynamically adjusted? |
| 22:32.58 | s_e | how are fonts and styles overwritten? |
| 22:34.21 | s_e | nevermind I've found it |
| 22:36.17 | Torhal | znf: Not that I'm aware of, but I heard something about Mojave having support |
| 22:37.35 | znf | Torhal: I found Karabiner |
| 22:37.40 | znf | has some json profiles |
| 22:37.49 | znf | but I've no idea how to import my own |
| 22:39.55 | s_e | so is there a straightforward way of managing addon load order? I'm guessing you should test for dependencies on startup? Is there a convention? |
| 22:40.08 | s_e | sorry for the question shotgun |
| 22:40.45 | nevcairiel | you can declare deps in the .toc file of your addon |
| 22:40.55 | nevcairiel | and optional deps as well |
| 22:41.23 | s_e | <3 thanks |
| 22:51.07 | znf | Torhal: yup, Karabiner works great |
| 23:02.41 | Torhal | Nice. |
| 23:15.04 | Funkeh` | I see dan gave up on irc already |
| 23:17.01 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~quassel@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 23:18.20 | Thunder_Child | I don't blame him. |
| 23:18.55 | s_e | the splat at the start of most addons? local _, L = ..., i'm assuming this is assigning stuff passed from the addon loader? |
| 23:19.21 | Stanzilla | yeah I wanted to report that the API says Uldir is a Legion raid but I saw he left alreadyd :< |
| 23:19.27 | s_e | (I'm terribly new and there's so much outdated or conflicting info it's a bit overwhelming getting started) |
| 23:19.44 | Funkeh` | oh well back to emailing QA |
| 23:19.52 | Stanzilla | gieve email address please |
| 23:20.10 | Funkeh` | it's not mine to give |
| 23:20.36 | Stanzilla | ask if you can give it to other authors then |
| 23:22.31 | s_e | oh wait it's just making empty objects |
| 23:22.33 | s_e | i see |
| 23:22.48 | Funkeh` | "it" being the game |
| 23:23.18 | s_e | not familiar with lua really, but it seems quite like javascript i guess, maybe a bit of ruby |
| 23:23.41 | Funkeh` | its not lua, it's the game doing that |
| 23:24.25 | s_e | I mean with the ... operator? or is that from the game too? |
| 23:25.11 | Funkeh` | No, I meant passing addonName, addonScopedTable to every lua file in your addon |
| 23:25.22 | s_e | right, so I had the right idea, thanks |
| 23:25.39 | Funkeh` | the table is to reduce the need to set a bunch of crap as globals |
| 23:26.12 | s_e | table = object/list/dictionary? |
| 23:26.52 | Funkeh` | well it's empty |
| 23:27.00 | s_e | no I mean the terminology |
| 23:27.01 | Funkeh` | it's private for you |
| 23:27.32 | s_e | is it equivalent to like, an object in js or a dictionary/lookup table? |
| 23:28.43 | s_e | nm it's a dict, lua reference got me |
| 23:29.22 | s_e | I'm super new to lua and WoW, so you'll have to excuse me, still haven't got my bearings with any of it |
| 23:29.30 | s_e | WoW UI Dev that is |
| 23:30.24 | s_e | can I grab a module from someone else's addon? |
| 23:33.13 | Funkeh` | I guess you mean "can i interface with another addon" since there's no guarantee an author has made modules, or made them public. But the answer is "if the author allows it" |
| 23:35.08 | s_e | like exporting, so how do I tell? |
| 23:35.50 | Funkeh` | if it's a big addon they might have online documentation, otherwise good 'ol fashioned reading |
| 23:36.05 | s_e | yes, but what am I looking for? that's all |
| 23:37.09 | s_e | I'm guessing anything they instantiate on the scoped table is private, how are things made public? |
| 23:38.20 | Funkeh` | var = true --global |
| 23:38.25 | Funkeh` | local var = true --local |
| 23:38.36 | s_e | ahah, thanks |
| 23:38.56 | s_e | so the scoped table isn't necessarily private? |
| 23:39.13 | s_e | or is it set as local by the game? |
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| 23:41.58 | Funkeh` | it's local, but every file in your addon can access it |
| 23:42.09 | Funkeh` | you can make it global by attributing a global name to it |
| 23:42.11 | s_e | _G? globals? |
| 23:44.05 | Funkeh` | local tbl = {}; lol = tbl -- you just allowed global access to your local table |
| 23:44.38 | s_e | _G is a shortcut to getfenv from what I can tell? |
| 23:44.53 | s_e | ok so you can alias locals into globals then |
| 23:45.02 | s_e | thank you for the guidance |
