| 00:00.07 | foxlit | Andols: I don't know; I think it looks like it might be, but I might wait until the next steam sale to actually try. |
| 00:02.22 | foxlit | (I did play Human Resource Machine, which is essentially writing code in graphical assembly with a limited instruction set and memory, but unlimited program length.) |
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| 00:08.28 | foxlit | [the final level involved writing a tiny 30-instruction selection sort] |
| 00:20.48 | znf | I wonder why DropTheCheapest doesn't sell ALL items in one go when I visit a vendor |
| 00:20.54 | znf | I have to open up the vendor frame 3 times |
| 00:21.04 | Torhal | There's a threshold. |
| 00:21.11 | kd3 | you can only sell so much in one go |
| 00:21.37 | Torhal | What Kemayo could do is check that all is sold and try again after 1/2 a second or somesuch. |
| 00:22.31 | znf | So, I've fished for a few hours |
| 00:22.39 | znf | I'm expecting the game to crash with Out of Memory soon |
| 00:22.43 | znf | What can I do to monitor it? |
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| 00:23.55 | znf | nevcairiel ? |
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| 01:25.32 | znf | Heh https://i.imgur.com/JY6aI87.png |
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| 02:05.39 | znf | well, fuck me, that's a nice quests reward https://i.imgur.com/jZvfTMt.png |
| 02:35.22 | Semlar | well, i just keep getting a +2 keystone regardless of how quickly we finish the dungeon |
| 02:35.28 | Semlar | so this system appears to be broken |
| 02:36.44 | Semlar | it's also for the same dungeon every time |
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| 02:52.16 | nebula | sounds like you're not actually finishing it ! |
| 02:53.21 | nebula | are you looting the same keystone out of the chest at the end or do you just not get one at the end |
| 03:19.43 | Torhal | Hrm. Gotta love phasing. How the hell do I tell which version of Arathi Highlands is running, since they both have the same mapID? |
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| 03:25.49 | Simca_ | answer: you don't because the api for that part is not complete. i think it's slated for 8.1 |
| 03:26.48 | Simca_ | i asked Dan a while back how to distinguish between phases of the same UIMapID and the sort answer is that you can't via APIs. You should be able to through UIMapArtID but the API for that is broken and returns the answer assuming PhaseID = 0, afaik |
| 03:31.58 | Semlar | what is the loot frame called that pops up at the end of the instance and what event do i have to unregister to get it to stop showing up |
| 03:38.04 | Torhal | Simca_: Thanks. That makes NPCScan a bit awkward, then... |
| 03:39.10 | Simca_ | you can work around it in horrible horrible ways if you wanted |
| 03:39.20 | Torhal | lol |
| 03:39.36 | Simca_ | checking for 'back in time' buff and completion of the questline that phases arathi |
| 03:39.48 | Simca_ | in order to determine proper phase |
| 03:40.00 | Torhal | Easiest way is to add a minLevel and maxLevel field to the NPCs there and show/not show depending on which is true. |
| 03:40.08 | Simca_ | yeah that's better |
| 03:40.55 | nebula | i mean, if you're max level in the old arathi, what are you going to show? |
| 03:41.13 | Torhal | I didn't think you could get to the old Arathi. |
| 03:41.28 | Torhal | I flew out, was in level 60 territory. Flew back in, in 120 territory. |
| 03:42.18 | nebula | ahso |
| 03:43.21 | Simca_ | you can, that bronze dragon lady that shows up everywhere makes another appearance in arathi |
| 03:43.29 | Simca_ | and lets you phase back to old version if you ask |
| 03:43.36 | Torhal | Huh, I didn't see the chat bubble on the map. |
| 03:43.46 | Simca_ | yeah i think they forgot that part |
| 03:43.53 | Torhal | D'oh |
| 03:45.14 | Torhal | So no, adding level checks is a bad idea. If you go back in time, it wouldn't show the old NPCs. |
| 03:45.43 | Torhal | I'll just have them both show in the tooltip to be extra confusing. |
| 04:04.40 | Fisker | hhey Torhal |
| 04:09.16 | Torhal | Ermagherd, Fisker |
| 04:09.26 | Fisker | :? |
| 04:09.55 | Torhal | You hheyed me. |
| 04:12.17 | Fisker | yes Torhal |
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| 05:11.14 | Semlar | if you get a keystone for the motherlode just delete it |
| 05:11.28 | Semlar | it requires a hilarious amount of trash |
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| 05:26.30 | Semlar | TheDanW: can we get some indicator of whether the leader of a group in the group finder has war mode enabled |
| 05:27.17 | Torhal | Sorry, Semlar - you traumatized him so badly that his last day working on WoW is Friday. |
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| 05:40.49 | Torhal | I hope you're happy, bluspacecow - you crashed SourceTree. |
| 05:41.40 | bluspacecow | inorite |
| 05:41.50 | bluspacecow | i even did it while asleep! |
| 05:41.52 | bluspacecow | #skills |
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| 07:45.05 | mitch0 | moo |
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| 09:42.48 | znf | for some reasons, Great Sea Catfish has started selling like crazy on my real, I tought it was the cheapest/useless fish O.o |
| 09:44.19 | nevcairiel | it is |
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| 09:44.31 | nevcairiel | no good food requires it |
| 09:44.50 | nevcairiel | its really only good for making oil |
| 09:45.00 | znf | selling stacks of it for 10k/ea O.O |
| 09:45.33 | znf | while the other fish that are somewhat useful, have gone down to <10g/ea |
| 09:45.47 | znf | except Redtail, which sells for 20k/stack |
| 09:47.18 | znf | Geez, so many boost sellers on my realm |
| 09:49.03 | znf | I was really hoping Midnight Salmon would hit an insane price, but it went down badly after the feast change :( |
| 09:51.28 | znf | woah, what's all the quests here |
| 09:53.09 | znf | oh, donations |
| 09:54.00 | znf | this is hilarious, everything required for donations just skyrocketed over night :D |
| 09:55.04 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/8m2m4ez.png |
| 09:55.53 | nevcairiel | are you mr.obvious today? :p |
| 09:56.15 | znf | I wasn't aware of these donation quests :D |
| 09:56.16 | znf | https://theunderminejournal.com/#eu/kazzak/item/152512 |
| 09:56.18 | znf | check the monelite ore price |
| 09:56.27 | znf | from 40g to 100g |
| 09:58.39 | znf | I logged on my banker first, and I couldn't figure out why would my Meaty Haunch possibly sold at that high price, but now I know |
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| 10:03.30 | sb | economy seems broken... the prices are out of control, flasks/food/fish/professions materials are too rare imo (anchor weed anyone?) |
| 10:03.46 | sb | i want my wod garrison / herb field & mine back :( |
| 10:06.07 | nevcairiel | nah resources are fine |
| 10:06.12 | znf | I made 300k from Fishing in the last 3 days |
| 10:06.13 | znf | so... |
| 10:06.43 | AcidWeb | TheDanW: Part of M+ api still return Legion data. |
| 10:06.48 | sb | get a job znf |
| 10:06.54 | znf | sb, I have one |
| 10:07.00 | znf | I work from home... |
| 10:07.02 | sb | fishing is no job |
| 10:07.02 | nevcairiel | i would never buy fish, they are so overpriced in comparison to how easy it is to get them |
| 10:07.15 | znf | it's just a timesink |
| 10:07.39 | sb | which job lets you click on fish every 15s? :o |
| 10:07.59 | nevcairiel | if you just want to make personal food, it literally takes a few minutes for enough food for a week |
| 10:08.22 | nevcairiel | if you want to make feasts, that should not be a solo task anyway, since an entire raid eats from that, so let them help |
| 10:08.30 | sb | nevcairiel: maybe true, talking about znf 300k / 3 days |
| 10:08.37 | sb | (didnt even try yet) |
| 10:09.36 | znf | That's easy. Watch Ozark on Netflix and fish with the steam controller |
| 10:09.50 | znf | That's pretty much what I did |
| 10:10.22 | znf | And yes, unless something breaks or there's a support ticket, I don't exactly have to do anything at work :P |
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| 10:11.25 | znf | And unless there's some alliance raid in nazrim, I can just finish up in the ruins not worrying about anything :D |
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| 10:19.17 | znf | The warfront contributions are the donatoins? |
| 10:19.19 | znf | donations* |
| 10:19.42 | Alram | does it give rep |
| 10:19.44 | Alram | it better |
| 10:20.03 | znf | no idea, I'm exalted already with honorbound |
| 10:20.04 | nevcairiel | it does, but for honorbound/7th |
| 10:20.09 | nevcairiel | so useless for active players |
| 10:20.12 | Alram | useless |
| 10:20.22 | nevcairiel | but it does give a devent value of AP |
| 10:20.32 | nevcairiel | decent |
| 10:20.33 | Alram | do they give rep boxes or does it max out at exalted? |
| 10:20.39 | Alram | i am revered everywhere |
| 10:20.42 | nevcairiel | no paragon yet |
| 10:20.46 | Alram | ew |
| 10:30.15 | znf | druids + diseases? |
| 10:30.18 | znf | no curing? |
| 10:30.22 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 10:30.31 | nevcairiel | no class can cure all the things |
| 10:31.20 | znf | very hard concept to cure the fucking shit with healing |
| 10:32.14 | nevcairiel | the only thing everyone can cure is magic, which is usually the important stuff anyway |
| 10:33.11 | znf | that stun is pretty important for 30s |
| 10:33.20 | nevcairiel | just avoid it =p |
| 10:34.02 | znf | how? :P |
| 10:34.42 | znf | because I can only interrupt once |
| 10:35.35 | nevcairiel | you are also not alone =p |
| 10:39.50 | znf | indeed, but I also have a healer to heal that 40k |
| 10:39.52 | znf | and it never happens |
| 10:46.40 | znf | I'm installing that Raider.io for the first time |
| 10:46.49 | znf | I'm already annoyed by the fact that I have to create an account |
| 10:47.12 | znf | just use OAuth, god damn it |
| 10:47.23 | Gnarfoz | harder than to make a crude account system :P |
| 10:47.42 | znf | they still ask you to link your blizzard account |
| 10:47.47 | znf | so they are already using it in some way |
| 10:49.22 | znf | hmm, 8% to battle |
| 10:49.25 | znf | this thing seems slow :( |
| 10:53.19 | znf | PUGs are already requiring flasks for normal mode Uldir, geez |
| 10:55.06 | sb | is the world boss alliance only? |
| 10:55.17 | znf | Anyone knows where to get the seals on Horde? |
| 10:55.34 | sb | znf: near transmog guy iirc |
| 10:55.36 | sb | left |
| 10:56.35 | znf | thx |
| 10:56.52 | sb | znf: world boss? available for us or not? |
| 10:57.29 | znf | there's 2 of them |
| 10:57.33 | znf | one in arathi, one in stormsong |
| 10:57.40 | znf | the one in arathi seems to be up for alliance only |
| 10:58.17 | znf | I presume they rotate troughout the week, but I wasn't able to find actual information |
| 10:58.20 | sb | i see, compensation for active warfront quests then |
| 10:59.05 | znf | afaik not |
| 10:59.27 | znf | even if horde controlls it, seems the boss is still alliance only |
| 10:59.55 | sb | then it will disappear and horde gets another boss!? |
| 11:00.26 | znf | I've no idea |
| 11:03.34 | znf | wowhead says |
| 11:03.34 | znf | World Boss Reset Time: After each warfront faction control switch cycle. |
| 11:03.35 | znf | For more detailed BFA Warfront info look here Warfront: The Battle for Stromgarde or read this blue post |
| 11:04.13 | sb | i just want to know what i have to do for the 370 quest :D |
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| 11:56.20 | sb | interesting... znf, i want you to test something! |
| 11:56.50 | sb | armory audit recomments "living steel belt buckle" enchants on belt (+1 socket) - which can be applied "up to ilvl 600" - please test :D |
| 11:57.25 | znf | O.O |
| 11:57.27 | nevcairiel | they fixed that long ago |
| 11:57.28 | znf | I'm in a M+ |
| 12:07.23 | sb | nevcairiel: any idea how accurate simc or asmrrobot are? (they provide different results and both claim to have the best results) |
| 12:15.12 | znf | the difference between them is usually less than 1% |
| 12:17.51 | sb | znf: stat weights are like "crit > haste > vers > mastery" vs. "haste > vers > crit > mastery" |
| 12:18.08 | znf | haste > crit always? |
| 12:19.11 | sb | znf: not talking about priest |
| 12:19.13 | sb | just an example |
| 12:19.22 | znf | oh, no idea |
| 12:19.30 | znf | they're probably very close to each other |
| 12:20.41 | sb | haste sims > int for me... :o |
| 12:21.27 | sb | but you are right, for priest its (amr + simc) haste > crit > ...... > vers = mastery (close to 0) |
| 12:22.09 | Gnarfoz | sb: AMR doesn't even work with "stat weights" (although they do show a stat distribution graph from which such a ranking could be gleaned) |
| 12:22.43 | sb | Gnarfoz: i know |
| 12:23.37 | sb | it just tells you "get most of that and maybe some of the other and forget about the rest" |
| 12:23.43 | nevcairiel | speaking of AMR, anyone else find the new design quite unintuitive? |
| 12:23.44 | Gnarfoz | also, good luck finding out which one is "more accurate", both are simulations; I use AMR because it's a lot more usable and I hate the cult of "only SimC can be right!" (even though it lacks maintainers and doesn't aim to push any boundaries (tank/heal sims, simpler vs. more complex rotations, gear suggestions even) |
| 12:23.49 | sb | nevcairiel: yup... |
| 12:24.07 | sb | i HATE single page navigation where "browser back" isnt "last step" but "first page" |
| 12:24.13 | znf | 10% contribution |
| 12:24.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: when you've found the buttons that do the things it previously did, it's mostly the same; I think it's just being used to something else |
| 12:24.13 | znf | :( |
| 12:24.15 | nevcairiel | i a lways look for the char detail page where it shows the armory-like display with my current gear, and where i could also switch single pieces etc to try stuff out |
| 12:24.21 | nevcairiel | but i never can find that page anymore |
| 12:24.26 | nevcairiel | it used to be like the starting page |
| 12:24.28 | nevcairiel | but noo |
| 12:24.37 | Gnarfoz | that's "gear check" now |
| 12:24.46 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, it not being the start page is the most confusing change |
| 12:25.19 | Gnarfoz | logging onto my bank char intending to buy enchants, forgetting I spent all its money :( |
| 12:25.19 | sb | Gnarfoz: same.. i like the AMR concept of "just sim all talents + weapon enchants", if i want to do something like that with simc i'd have to click 1000 times (raidbots) or write a config.. |
| 12:25.20 | nevcairiel | except that gear check is a bad copy of it |
| 12:26.07 | Gnarfoz | huh? it does just what you said you were looking for |
| 12:26.27 | sb | Gnarfoz: yes, amr does that, thats what i like about it |
| 12:26.43 | nevcairiel | i have to click like 10 options to even get to that page |
| 12:27.12 | znf | here's a question |
| 12:27.12 | nevcairiel | and it automatically has suggestions for some changes, not just an overview |
| 12:27.17 | Gnarfoz | you have to do the same thing as before: pick a gearing scenario and its options |
| 12:27.26 | znf | if I use best-in-bags, it tells me to gem haste everywhere |
| 12:27.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah it doesn't have a "left-hand side" anymore, which is weird, since that space is just empty |
| 12:27.33 | znf | if I use gear-check, it tellsme to gem crit |
| 12:27.34 | znf | ?! |
| 12:27.44 | Gnarfoz | different settings? |
| 12:27.46 | nevcairiel | the overall AMR redesign is just a flat out downgrade |
| 12:27.52 | nevcairiel | which seems like par for the course in 2018 |
| 12:27.57 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 12:28.02 | nevcairiel | make everything look "modern" and remove 50% of all features |
| 12:28.08 | Gnarfoz | the features are all still there |
| 12:28.18 | nevcairiel | just hidden behind more buttons |
| 12:28.25 | nevcairiel | so the screens look more "clean" |
| 12:28.28 | znf | Gnarfoz, no, same settings |
| 12:28.29 | nevcairiel | except noone asks for that =p |
| 12:29.07 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/acezmT0.png |
| 12:29.12 | nevcairiel | (also i consider the display of information a feature, a nd it certainly cut down on that) |
| 12:29.36 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/4a9NBMz.png |
| 12:30.41 | nevcairiel | the overall AMR landing page is already useless, it has zero proper hints what to actually do |
| 12:31.05 | Gnarfoz | the huge OPTIMIZE link is not obvious enough? :D |
| 12:31.08 | sb | :D |
| 12:31.27 | sb | split between optimize and simulation is not that great, took me some time to understand... |
| 12:31.30 | nevcairiel | the page is still useless, because its non-functional |
| 12:31.36 | nevcairiel | its just there |
| 12:31.41 | nevcairiel | it could just not be there |
| 12:31.58 | Gnarfoz | znf: ask serious questions like these where you at least have a chance of getting non-guesswork answer, maybe? (my guess is that a) gear check doesn't offer the threshold cutoffs b) it's got to do with your current equip not being actually the best in your bags?) |
| 12:32.06 | Gnarfoz | sb: it's always been split, though? |
| 12:32.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, it could default to optimize, the links are at the top anyway |
| 12:32.36 | nevcairiel | previously you had the main page with your characters current gear etc |
| 12:32.41 | nevcairiel | and you would use all the tools from there |
| 12:32.43 | nevcairiel | that made sense to me |
| 12:32.48 | nevcairiel | this layout is just unintuitive |
| 12:32.50 | Gnarfoz | perhaps that was creating more load than a static landing page, heh |
| 12:33.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, got the answer |
| 12:33.36 | sb | your head znf |
| 12:33.45 | sb | AZ3. vs stormlurker |
| 12:35.38 | znf | sb, nah, I'm not swapping |
| 12:36.40 | znf | anyway, the idea was that it was suggesting all crit gems |
| 12:37.58 | sb | znf: no but best in bag is swapping and maybe the new head needs more crit? |
| 12:38.03 | sb | or whats the reason? |
| 12:38.25 | znf | the variation % |
| 12:38.46 | nevcairiel | I'm a tank anyway so simming is mostly useless for me, so not that bothered with how usable AMR is =p |
| 12:38.48 | znf | gear-check disables the variation |
| 12:39.11 | Gnarfoz | znf: I see, it was my guess "a". ;-) |
| 12:39.33 | znf | I've set the treshold to 1% |
| 12:39.42 | znf | still suggest different stuff for a +0.40% increase |
| 12:40.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hearsay ;-) AMR simulates tanks as well, also lets you pick a preference regarding defense/balanced/offense (don't pick "all defense", the warning that it does crazy things is not bold enough) |
| 12:41.49 | nevcairiel | it certainly tries to |
| 12:42.27 | nevcairiel | but the majority of tanking people in the community will tell you that its not possible to properly model a tanks real-world behavior |
| 12:43.19 | Gnarfoz | they will do that, yeah |
| 12:43.25 | Gnarfoz | to what end, nobody knows |
| 12:43.26 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 12:44.19 | sb | you just do what you want as tank, if you die its the healers fault, if boss doesnt die its dps fault |
| 12:44.23 | Gnarfoz | many fights consist of large portions of "boss hits tank" (maybe with a tank swap, an add for the other tank to handle, some movement here and there, maybe an AoE phase? nothing that's not also being simulated for dps) |
| 12:44.38 | Gnarfoz | sb: isthetankatfault.com? |
| 12:44.54 | ThiefMaster | always the hunter's fault |
| 12:44.55 | Gnarfoz | whotoblame.com is probably taken |
| 12:45.24 | Gnarfoz | hmm 2x 16000g for ring enchants? no thanks :D |
| 12:45.38 | nevcairiel | only bad tanks will pawn off all responsibility to everyone else |
| 12:47.14 | nevcairiel | the forums are full of people crying about the threat changes and bad tanks will come into those threads, proudly claiming t hat they don't notice a difference between legion and now, and that they don't play any differently, and if a DPS pulls aggro, its the DPSers fault. Hey, in Legion you had to press two buttons to keep aggro forever, if you play the same way, its no wonder that DPSers pull =p |
| 12:48.32 | Gnarfoz | what's the tanking potion? |
| 12:49.03 | nevcairiel | there is an armor one, unsure how useful |
| 12:49.12 | sb | Gnarfoz: get the green ones |
| 12:49.20 | Gnarfoz | sb: I like purple |
| 12:49.24 | nevcairiel | primary stat is good for tanking this expansions, so might as well go with that |
| 12:49.38 | Gnarfoz | it probably does the same as last expansion? |
| 12:49.41 | Gnarfoz | i.e. parry? |
| 12:50.28 | nevcairiel | you get armor through primary stat |
| 12:50.34 | nevcairiel | in some shape or form anyway |
| 12:50.37 | nevcairiel | depends on the class |
| 12:50.47 | Gnarfoz | steelskin potion, hmhm |
| 12:50.55 | nevcairiel | for druids ironfur scales with agility |
| 12:51.54 | Gnarfoz | 900 AC, 1100 STA, 900 STR seem like the options (or the AoE dmg proc one, heh) |
| 12:52.40 | nevcairiel | SotR scales with strength for paladins |
| 13:18.18 | znf | wonder if I should pug the raid or continue doing m+ runs |
| 13:22.49 | Torhal | I'll come back to #wowace if you'll stop being the new Amarande here, znf. |
| 13:23.05 | znf | Torhal, nah |
| 13:23.10 | znf | You'll come back regardless <3 |
| 13:23.15 | znf | because we love you |
| 13:23.29 | Torhal | Not really. The signal-to-noise ratio is mainly why I left. |
| 13:24.42 | Torhal | But now with a new expansion and most of the API-relevant talk being in here, I now have to wade through minor freakouts and endless talk of fishing to see what was said :P |
| 13:25.27 | znf | Fishing is good! |
| 13:25.33 | znf | What's the cutoff (on time) for 3 chests? |
| 13:37.46 | znf | nevcairiel, is there a way to change the color of the health bars in raid frames? https://i.imgur.com/xcptOQ4.png |
| 13:37.50 | znf | as in, make them.. lighter? |
| 13:38.09 | foxlit | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DxS7eT_ky4 << but I was told it's always the healer's fault? |
| 13:38.31 | nevcairiel | znf: class color is class color, you can change the class colors in the main color settings somewhere |
| 13:39.10 | znf | well, yes, but the raid frames have it a bit darker |
| 13:39.23 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 13:39.35 | znf | I can't tell which is a warrior from that screenshot or a dk :D |
| 13:40.07 | nevcairiel | well thats because its half-transparent |
| 13:40.11 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 13:40.18 | znf | can I change that somewhere? |
| 13:40.20 | nevcairiel | or you made it invert |
| 13:41.35 | nevcairiel | or your bar texture is particularly dark |
| 13:42.16 | nevcairiel | but it looks like you're just using invert colors |
| 13:42.24 | nevcairiel | widget size -> health bar -> invert |
| 13:42.38 | znf | oh thank fuck |
| 13:48.52 | znf | yay trinket from 1st boss |
| 13:59.32 | mitch0 | Hogger_ |
| 13:59.33 | mitch0 | ? |
| 14:06.30 | Gnarfoz | Alram: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/09/04/gouda-krijgt-eerste-blockchain-bus-a1615274 this clearly needs some IoT or machine learning or something. just blockchain is not enough. |
| 14:08.36 | znf | Funkeh`, lasers are not on a timer? |
| 14:08.57 | znf | on MOTHER |
| 14:09.43 | Alram | The fuck is that gnarfoz |
| 14:10.05 | Alram | wtf |
| 14:10.10 | Gnarfoz | Alram: you tell me! :D (that's where you're from, isn't it?) |
| 14:10.29 | Alram | It is and I've been on that bus a lot |
| 14:10.34 | Alram | Not anymore tho |
| 14:47.56 | znf | here's a funny thing |
| 14:48.02 | znf | a mage used drums instead of timewarp |
| 14:49.09 | nevcairiel | kick him, get a proper mage |
| 14:49.25 | znf | alliance player detected, didn't know what "lust" is :D |
| 14:49.46 | nevcairiel | that doesnt make any sense |
| 14:49.55 | nevcairiel | both of those things do the same thing, just different strength |
| 14:50.00 | nevcairiel | so he obviously knew what it was |
| 14:50.32 | znf | can't explain it myself |
| 15:02.23 | znf | what's a Norgabyte? |
| 15:04.38 | nevcairiel | its a unit of measure for biolagical data |
| 15:04.44 | nevcairiel | isnt it obvious |
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| 15:15.29 | znf | the bug has a soft-enrage? |
| 15:42.25 | foxlit | if you take too long it turns into a feature. |
| 15:47.07 | znf | does "Bound by Shadow" on Zul kill a mage if he spellsteals it? |
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| 15:53.50 | ThiefMaster | fuu, the darkmoon engineering quest does NOT increase bfa engineering |
| 16:02.07 | znf | ThiefMaster, huh? |
| 16:02.25 | znf | I noticed I got a point, but didn't check which "branch" |
| 16:02.32 | ThiefMaster | its quest reward is `+5 engineering skill` but apparently it only applies to the classic skill |
| 16:02.49 | ThiefMaster | https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/173522 "we were too lazy to fix it so we claim it's intentional for now" |
| 16:08.12 | Gnarfoz | more like "the quest will reflect this in the future, you'll still not get the skill points". |
| 16:08.54 | znf | heh |
| 16:10.24 | znf | Having priests @ Zul makes it so easy |
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| 16:24.22 | znf | Also, is anyone else geting the Bonus Roll loot stuck? |
| 16:24.32 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/p7BZPSf.png |
| 16:26.12 | znf | a reload ui fixes it, obviously, but the sound is still looping |
| 16:44.48 | Gnarfoz | there's a sound? |
| 17:04.17 | p3lim | the AH is so slow on my realm that I had to make an addon that plays sounds if my bid went through or not |
| 17:04.29 | znf | Gnarfoz, yeah, news to me aswell :D |
| 17:04.47 | p3lim | because it takes (without exaggerating) 2-3 full minutes for a bid to go through |
| 17:04.57 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you mean, I just had a bonus roll window up for a minute and it made no sound |
| 17:05.08 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: so say we all |
| 17:06.05 | znf | Gnarfoz, oh well, it was noticeable for me |
| 17:08.12 | znf | holy shit vendors are lagging so bad |
| 17:08.17 | znf | takes about 3 minutes to repair my gear :D |
| 17:34.41 | znf | So, did alliance get Arathi by default on all zones? |
| 17:34.48 | znf | all realms/regions? |
| 17:34.57 | znf | (the progress seems very slow for horde) |
| 17:35.16 | Alram | yes |
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| 17:49.54 | TheDanW | AcidWeb: what part? |
| 17:52.28 | znf | Has someone made an addon that shows azerite powers in the tooltip of the dungeon jurnal? |
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| 18:52.51 | znf | meh, channeled spells don't push people out of the balls on Mythrax |
| 18:55.26 | znf | US people - are the contribution quests Dailies or Weekly? |
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| 19:11.03 | nevcairiel | per cycle |
| 19:11.06 | nevcairiel | so basically weekly |
| 19:27.24 | znf | meh :( |
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| 19:56.23 | Gnarfoz | contribute more and there'll be more cycles! :D |
| 20:00.30 | AcidWeb | TheDanW: GetRewardLevelForDifficultyLevel() , GetCurrentAffixes() for sure. Not checked all. |
| 20:00.35 | AcidWeb | Default UI is affected. |
| 20:01.00 | AcidWeb | Mythic pane in LFG show legion data. |
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| 20:43.59 | znf | Mythrax the PUG Killer ^^ |
| 20:44.30 | Ammako | Cool I hit exactly 1,337 points of haste |
| 20:46.50 | znf | Are there any other uldir-specific buffs, btw? |
| 20:46.58 | znf | like Reorigination Array |
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| 21:00.35 | Simca_ | TheDanW, am I right in telling Torhal earlier that there's no way to determine which phase of Arathi you're through the Map API? He does NPCScan Overlay, which shows rare locations by map and from what you said before, I think he probably can't tell which map is which for Arathi atm, right? |
| 21:01.48 | Simca_ | cause no phase API and UIMapArtID is returned as if Phase = 0 |
| 21:02.56 | nevcairiel | i was wondering about that earlier |
| 21:03.01 | nevcairiel | indeed doesnt seem to be available |
| 21:09.42 | Simca_ | yeah, if UIMapArtID was returned with Phase of player instead of 0, then it'd at least be right if you were in the zone, even if it was wrong everywhere else |
| 21:09.45 | Simca_ | which would be something |
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| 21:12.56 | nevcairiel | actually the art id is different |
| 21:13.17 | nevcairiel | C_Map.GetMapArtID(14) is 15 on standard arathi, 1137 on modern arathi |
| 21:13.53 | nevcairiel | works from everywhere too |
| 21:16.22 | Simca_ | orly |
| 21:16.34 | Simca_ | maybe that was fixed then, it did not seem to work for me in the beta |
| 21:16.43 | nevcairiel | it definitely looks different |
| 21:16.48 | nevcairiel | so a different art id is required |
| 21:17.15 | Simca_ | yeah, that's how the data is hooked up. UIMapArtID + PhaseID = UIMapID |
| 21:17.37 | Simca_ | my issue was that I couldn't get it to return the right artID in my test code but like i said that was like 2 months ago |
| 21:20.39 | Simca_ | does the code only work while you're in the zone nev or at any point? |
| 21:20.45 | nevcairiel | everywhere |
| 21:20.49 | nevcairiel | i checked from boralus just now |
| 21:20.53 | Simca_ | nice |
| 21:21.13 | nevcairiel | my 120 main has 1137, the 110 alt that barely started questing in bfa is still on 15 |
| 21:22.07 | Simca_ | @Torhal: see above convo |
| 21:23.11 | nevcairiel | i was really happy that this id was exposed as well, the different map phases was one of the last opaque map mysteries before that |
| 21:23.20 | TheDanW | AcidWeb: gotcha |
| 21:25.03 | TheDanW | AcidWeb: it's being worked on |
| 21:25.41 | AcidWeb | +1 |
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| 23:52.18 | Mr_Rabies | is there a quick way to sim for every talent combination? |
| 23:52.36 | Mr_Rabies | quick being quick to setup, not necessarily quick to process |
| 23:55.00 | Stanzilla | https://www.raidbots.com |
| 23:55.09 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but like |
| 23:55.26 | Mr_Rabies | manually inputting the talent combinations will take forever |
| 23:55.48 | Stanzilla | herodamage.com |
| 23:57.07 | Mr_Rabies | oh i didn't even realize that had talents too |
| 23:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | rad |
