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| 18:32.43 | znf | oh, they pushed the contract fix to EU |
| 18:35.36 | znf | Wait, so how does the boss in Arathi work? |
| 18:35.43 | znf | Only 1 faction has it? |
| 18:35.48 | znf | They rotate troughout the week? |
| 18:42.14 | ls- | yeah |
| 18:43.23 | ls- | TheDanW have fun! and send someone else over here :D |
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| 18:59.43 | s_e | So, I have an exciting newbie question. How does WoW identify "Out of date" addons, does it parse the code somehow? or is there some sort of manifest with the wow version number in it? |
| 18:59.52 | s_e | Hi btw |
| 19:00.07 | foxlit | the .toc file contains a line like ## Interface: 12345 |
| 19:00.40 | foxlit | if the number if that line doesn't match what the client thinks it should be, it considers the addon to be out of date. |
| 19:00.46 | s_e | ah ok, how do those codes translate into WoW versions? |
| 19:01.01 | s_e | thanks btw |
| 19:01.25 | s_e | I'm new to lua and thinking about getting in to WoW addon dev, but not new to programming in general. |
| 19:01.49 | foxlit | You can use /dump GetBuildInfo() to view the .toc version considered current by the client (it's the 4th return value) |
| 19:02.19 | s_e | perfect, thank you |
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| 19:07.33 | s_e | so is there currently an emulator/sim for testing against? I noticed wowbench mention on http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Lua but that's nearly 10 years out of date |
| 19:08.15 | Gnarfoz | (as is most of that wiki, you want https://wow.gamepedia.com/ instead. Also, https://wow.gamepedia.com/TOC_format, regarding your previous question.) |
| 19:08.56 | s_e | thank you! |
| 19:09.06 | Gnarfoz | And no, you'd want to use the actual game client for testing. Brave/confident/crazy people have been known to just dry-code it all, though. ;-) |
| 19:09.59 | s_e | Google is a cruel mistress sometimes |
| 19:10.02 | Gnarfoz | someone in here was/is working on something like what you're thinking of, but I have no idea if they ever intend to publish that, or if that would even be wise, legally |
| 19:10.29 | s_e | gotta remember to use the recentness filters more |
| 19:11.09 | Elmoe | s_e: unfortunately there is no good sandbox to test with, when beta/PTR are up and allow pre-made toons this is the best you will get but sadly that isn't always available |
| 19:11.34 | Elmoe | s_e: I'm just resorted to spending the free boosts or asking my partner who has a ton of alts to let me test on her account |
| 19:12.13 | Gnarfoz | not a problem for actual players ;D |
| 19:13.37 | s_e | so is there a go to tutorial/introduction that isn't super basic? |
| 19:14.09 | s_e | additional tooling info is always appreciated too |
| 19:19.41 | znf | Most are probably outdaed |
| 19:19.45 | znf | Outdated |
| 19:20.02 | znf | There used to be a book but that's old as hell |
| 19:20.14 | s_e | yeah I saw that |
| 19:20.33 | znf | Just dive in, think what you want to build and just focus on that |
| 19:21.02 | s_e | the addonstudio VS plugin.. worth? |
| 19:21.07 | Elmoe | s_e: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47695 |
| 19:21.14 | znf | I just notepad++ |
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| 19:21.45 | Elmoe | s_e: I doubt that the 'addonstudio' thing is up to date |
| 19:21.57 | sylvanaar | I wrote a Lua plugin for IntelliJ that I like |
| 19:22.00 | s_e | Fair enough. |
| 19:22.14 | Elmoe | I just use vim myself but I'm not a big fan of IDEs in general |
| 19:22.21 | kd3 | oh geez, addonstudio. I don't think it's been updated in several expansions now |
| 19:22.59 | sylvanaar | you can set it up with all the FrameXML code and stuff for things like Jump To Symbol, etc |
| 19:23.02 | s_e | I used to be like you Elmoe, but then I started messing around in C++ and figured I'd save myself a headache |
| 19:23.06 | foxlit | kd3: http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/AddOn_Studio_2015_for_World_of_Warcraft << it supports Legion. |
| 19:23.09 | foxlit | (at least) |
| 19:23.16 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 19:23.37 | s_e | maybe I'll brave it for you guys and report back |
| 19:23.57 | Gnarfoz | sends some headache medicine, ahead of time |
| 19:24.19 | s_e | look it's got a sweet visualiser with a picture of Goldshire, it cannot be bad at all |
| 19:24.31 | Gnarfoz | does it provide night elf dances, too? |
| 19:24.40 | s_e | I mean, yeah probably |
| 19:24.45 | znf | I don't think anyone here uses it :D |
| 19:25.19 | foxlit | broadly, we as a community are incapable of writing any sort of tutorials that make sense. |
| 19:25.39 | s_e | foxlit: that sounds... well, not too surprising for game modders |
| 19:26.08 | s_e | no attention span (i should know) |
| 19:26.42 | znf | We'd skip tutorials anyway |
| 19:26.56 | s_e | right? |
| 19:27.31 | s_e | I'm one of those people that needs well-organised written information to process anything complex |
| 19:27.48 | s_e | the age of youtube tutorial videos has been a terrible bane on my existence |
| 19:28.15 | znf | Give me text over video any time |
| 19:28.33 | s_e | absolutely. |
| 19:29.05 | Elmoe | yeah I have abysmal comprehension if I'm not reading something, not an auditory learner at all |
| 19:29.14 | Elmoe | my fiance is the opposite and loves youtube tutorials heh |
| 19:29.50 | s_e | I think it's partly a programmer thing, and partly a focus thing, in my case. |
| 19:30.37 | s_e | I get "brain jammed" really easily when lots of people are talking, need to go have a lie down if I get too sociable! |
| 19:30.56 | s_e | so it's probably something to do with that |
| 19:31.17 | Gnarfoz | do you feel an urge to tell people to vacate your lawn, as well? ^^ |
| 19:31.35 | s_e | yes |
| 19:32.12 | s_e | although I don't have a lawn, I live on the 6th story |
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| 19:32.32 | s_e | they can get out of my parking spot though |
| 19:33.21 | Gnarfoz | close enough ^^ |
| 19:34.43 | znf | Don't forget to like and subscribe |
| 19:35.33 | znf | is this christmass? |
| 19:35.34 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/HMZLOhB.png |
| 19:35.51 | s_e | you are now the richest player on the server |
| 19:36.03 | znf | Another one! |
| 19:36.04 | Elmoe | apparently it is christmas for some people judging by the ilvl drops I keep getting whispers about hah! |
| 19:36.18 | s_e | yeah that mythic reward chest bug was pretty wild |
| 19:36.26 | znf | Ow |
| 19:36.30 | Elmoe | did they already hotfix that? |
| 19:36.31 | znf | Eu is missing on that |
| 19:36.33 | s_e | someone got a level 12 keystone with 4 affixes in my guiild |
| 19:36.42 | s_e | yeah they despawned it in about 10 minutes hah |
| 19:36.50 | Elmoe | I'm curious if they aren't going to do anything about the people who got loot though? |
| 19:37.06 | znf | What happened exactly? |
| 19:37.20 | Elmoe | Appears to be several bugs from reports |
| 19:37.31 | s_e | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9cwgzj/huge_bug_if_you_did_a_m_the_last_week_of_legion/ |
| 19:37.31 | kd3 | if you did a mythic+ the last week of legion, you got a uber-high reward and a high level key from the cache after logging in today |
| 19:37.35 | znf | Ah |
| 19:37.37 | znf | lol |
| 19:37.57 | Elmoe | But hard to sort fact from fiction. The only fact I know is that some people got M+ weekly chests today which gave rewards (including the keystone itself) based on the last week of Legion. |
| 19:38.15 | s_e | Also, not sure if related (probably not) but during the introduction to warfronts quest |
| 19:38.31 | s_e | I got a 360 titanforged from the first rare I killed |
| 19:38.41 | Elmoe | Other than that it just appears that it came as a bit of a surprise that world bosses extra can drop items that titanforge to 400 ilvl |
| 19:38.45 | s_e | I did a double take |
| 19:38.55 | Elmoe | So if you get lucky you are getting a major bump today |
| 19:39.36 | s_e | I'm glad tbh, because I only started BfA a few days ago and I gotta raaaid on Sat |
| 19:39.47 | Elmoe | It sounds like all the TF stuff is intended though just not necessarily expected by players. Much like how I was surprised that on launch world quests could give you a 355 epic reward. |
| 19:40.16 | s_e | it's nice, feels warm and fuzzy, like they care about us |
| 19:40.21 | TheDanW | Gnarfoz: thanks! |
| 19:40.30 | TheDanW | Simca_: appreciate it |
| 19:40.49 | znf | Incoming "lf group for uldir normal, 360+ required" |
| 19:40.57 | TheDanW | ls-: i'll try, some people are afraid of sharks though |
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| 19:41.25 | ls- | understandable |
| 19:41.26 | Elmoe | TheDanW: sharks? come on now all bark and no bite in this channel :) |
| 19:41.36 | s_e | that whole elitism verses the loot table thing |
| 19:41.46 | Elmoe | TheDanW: you can also just migrate your /ignore list to the next dev from the get go hah! |
| 19:42.46 | znf | It's probably gonna be a while until we get some other UI guy from blizzard here :) |
| 19:42.50 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: good luck on your next project! could you maybe just ask around in your old team if someone wants to join here and be "our guy"? |
| 19:43.15 | znf | He's probably going to be all "don't go there, they are very mean" |
| 19:43.39 | s_e | "They do not like your API" |
| 19:44.46 | znf | Wonder if the new secret project is a new IP |
| 19:45.08 | Andols | Do we know yet what Guill is working on? |
| 19:45.41 | s_e | ok thanks for the info guys, I'll probably be back, but I gotta sleep for a bit |
| 19:46.39 | Andols | Also thanks TheDanW your help here has been great :) |
| 19:46.48 | Andols | Changing today or in a few days/weeks? |
| 19:48.00 | TheDanW | thanks, friday will be my last day on wow |
| 19:51.11 | znf | :o |
| 19:54.14 | VIad | hmm, is it possible in bfa to block summoning pets when you swap out teams in the pet journal? |
| 19:54.30 | VIad | swap out a pet, summon it and trigger GCD kind of annoying :P |
| 19:55.51 | VIad | think it's purely C_PetJournal.SetPetLoadOutInfo that just feels like summoning the pet in slot 1 or smth when you swap around |
| 19:57.09 | Andols | foxlit: the game you talked about a cople of days ago, is it any good? |
| 20:01.50 | Thunder_Child | Andols: I think Guill's project is still under wraps. |
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| 20:13.53 | Simca_ | Torhal / anyone else who was experiencing the issue: try logging into wowdb now |
| 20:16.49 | Torhal | Simca_: Slightly better, but still broken: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6db5aqgnnn7y7hn/Screenshot%202018-09-04%2015.14.45.png |
| 20:17.13 | Torhal | It definitely is taken; by me. |
| 20:19.32 | Thunder_Child | Mine may or may not be. I can't remember what my username is/was. |
| 20:19.44 | Simca_ | hm. not sure if there's an easy way around that now. they've entered the phase where curse auth is fully deprecated. i will ask. |
| 20:20.43 | Torhal | Simca_: The problem may be that my site profile has my old email address, so they're trying to provision a new one instead of actually merging. |
| 20:22.26 | Thunder_Child | Also, why is there a huge chunk of empty space below the footer? |
| 20:23.29 | Simca_ | i don't think merge functionality still exists in a working state, which is the reason for the disabled module message. i attempted to switch it to twitch auth only mode. |
| 20:24.40 | Torhal | That seems bad. :/ |
| 20:51.32 | Simca_ | kind of surprised blizz hasn't taken action yet about gear from bugged m+ boxes |
| 20:52.22 | Simca_ | for the first 15 minutes after reset, people could loot ilvl 380+ pieces from their weekly box if they did the last week of m+ in legion |
| 20:52.59 | Simca_ | i saw it when it happened in a chat message but decided not to bother because I figured they would fix it. I should have remembered to exploit early, exploit often |
| 21:00.49 | VIad | Semlar once mentioned a trick where one could get the name of the caller function that called your function? |
| 21:02.26 | Andols | debugstack() ? |
| 21:03.27 | VIad | yeah thanks! that was it |
| 21:21.48 | jaxdahl | someone complaining that my addon doesn't work if they have zygor installed - should i bother troubleshooting that |
| 21:25.34 | znf | probably not |
| 21:25.57 | znf | if they provided a lua error message, maybe |
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| 21:27.43 | znf | many comments https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9cvjmd/blizzards_illconceived_attempt_to_break_world/ |
| 21:30.18 | foxlit | pointless noise. |
| 21:32.45 | Simca_ | i wonder how many upset players it would take to change blizzard's mind on certain issues |
| 21:32.51 | Simca_ | like how many is too many |
| 21:33.17 | Simca_ | there has to be a threshold somewhere where vision compromises with reality |
| 21:33.31 | Simca_ | we hit it before with RealID on forums |
| 21:33.40 | znf | I'm not the kind to bash a company and go all "hurr durr shareholders, money" |
| 21:33.53 | Simca_ | me either. i don't even believe that view, tbh |
| 21:33.53 | znf | but I swear I'm starting to believe that the only metric they care is how much time people spend in game |
| 21:34.18 | foxlit | it's just about the experience. There's nothing objectively wrong with how world quests work right now without any addons in terms of time/reward ratio. |
| 21:34.35 | Simca_ | objectively? |
| 21:34.39 | znf | doing them every day is just a chore |
| 21:34.46 | foxlit | so *don't*. |
| 21:35.00 | znf | I can't, feels like I have to, until I hit everything Exalted in game |
| 21:35.07 | Semlar | why |
| 21:35.18 | Simca_ | i think you misspelled subjectively, foxlit. |
| 21:35.23 | znf | And then I fall back to doing only WQs for Azerite and Gear, so I can scrape into Expulsom |
| 21:35.32 | Semlar | what's the point of even getting to exalted with most of the reps |
| 21:35.48 | znf | gear, a bar that gets filled up |
| 21:36.19 | znf | I didn't really use addons that automatically grouped me up with people, because I frankly don't care |
| 21:36.28 | foxlit | Simca_: no, I genuinely think that the amount of stuff you get per unit of invested effort is roughly similar to other activities within the game. |
| 21:36.38 | znf | I don't |
| 21:36.45 | znf | Felt like you gained more in Legion |
| 21:37.06 | foxlit | you're not playing Legion now, so don't compare to it. |
| 21:37.38 | znf | well, I was I was... |
| 21:37.46 | znf | BfA so far has been a snooze-fest |
| 21:38.08 | znf | Thankfully we can go back to doing M+ tomorrow and not getting into any group because "<insert your spec> is bad, sorry" |
| 21:38.47 | Semlar | with m+ finally out i probably won't be doing another world quest without a good reason |
| 21:39.18 | znf | The Azerite system is so dull |
| 21:39.27 | Simca_ | i don't really mind any part of BFA so far. |
| 21:39.38 | Semlar | i like the azerite system |
| 21:39.42 | Simca_ | the rewards for island expeditions are obviously way too tame |
| 21:39.48 | znf | The artifact system had a fake progression feeling, but at least you were excited for something |
| 21:39.51 | znf | at least in the beggining |
| 21:39.57 | Simca_ | i think they'll slowly increase it until they find the right level though |
| 21:40.07 | znf | "Oh, next week I'm getting X trait, that's gonna be awesome" |
| 21:40.07 | foxlit | the azerite system has two parts: one is a gently stacking nerf to all existing content, and another is the ability to slightly customize your loot. |
| 21:40.30 | znf | now I'm at "oh, next week, if I don't get a new drop, I can maybe unlock those +5 ilvls on this crap piece" |
| 21:41.05 | Simca_ | I think the lack of rewards in island expeditions is just because they overrewarded m+ in early legion and created a huge amount of negative player perception when they nerfed the rewards substantially |
| 21:41.16 | Simca_ | and they don't want to repeat that again |
| 21:41.27 | Simca_ | with this expansion's new system |
| 21:41.35 | znf | would be nice if I could at least get +1 to my hearth of azeroth by doing the weekly Expedition quest |
| 21:41.46 | znf | but it feels like a drop in the water |
| 21:41.52 | znf | s/water/bucket/ |
| 21:42.15 | znf | You do 5 heroics, for... 225 azerite, yes? and you get +1000 at the end |
| 21:42.27 | znf | that's more-or-less 10% of a level right now |
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| 21:42.50 | znf | no, wait, the weekly is 2.5k |
| 21:43.34 | Simca_ | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20768687131#post-5 confirmed people are getting gear taken away from the bug today, yay |
| 21:43.47 | nevcairiel | i would've been surprised if they just let it sit there |
| 21:43.58 | znf | well, actually still around 10%-ish if you are on the curve |
| 21:44.08 | Andols | Good |
| 21:44.10 | znf | ie: your neck being 21-22 |
| 21:44.47 | foxlit | maybe they expect your neck to be 18 at this point :P |
| 21:45.04 | znf | So what happens to the players that scraped their old gear, because they tought they had an awesome-best-in-slot-piece-that-will-last-them-until-the-next-patch? |
| 21:45.14 | foxlit | item restoration is right over there >>> |
| 21:45.15 | nevcairiel | they are morons |
| 21:45.29 | znf | foxlit: 30 days cooldown tough |
| 21:45.31 | nevcairiel | it was so obvious that this wasnt right |
| 21:45.34 | znf | unless they changed it? |
| 21:46.42 | foxlit | dunno, last used it maybe two years ago? |
| 21:47.27 | Simca_ | 15 now |
| 21:48.07 | Simca_ | gms can make exceptions too, presumably they would be allowed to in this case if your restoration was on CD |
| 21:48.44 | Simca_ | gms are actually more flexible sometimes than people give them credit for |
| 21:48.54 | znf | <insert canned respone> |
| 21:48.59 | znf | I think only the US ones are |
| 21:49.04 | znf | the EU ones seem pretty drone-y |
| 21:49.22 | nevcairiel | I think most people are just not nice enough to get a GM to care to spend extra effort =p |
| 21:50.06 | Simca_ | in MoP, when brawler's guild came out, I bid on two brawler's guild invites. this was a very safe thing to do because people were constantly bidding and they were nowhere near the limit of what they should be going for |
| 21:50.13 | Simca_ | 5 minutes later, the server crashed |
| 21:50.24 | Simca_ | it came back up 2 hours later, the auctions had ended and i won both |
| 21:50.57 | Simca_ | i made a ticket and argued that I shouldn't have been able to win both auctions and would have only pushed for one of them as I was outbid by other players, and that didn't have a chance to happen |
| 21:51.17 | nevcairiel | that seems like a dumb ticket to make in the first place =p |
| 21:51.36 | Simca_ | yes, but it was true |
| 21:51.44 | Simca_ | there were like 20 people bidding |
| 21:52.07 | Simca_ | only two realms went down too, iirc, it was an isolated server hardware issue |
| 21:52.15 | foxlit | so what was the outcome, and was this the bmah? |
| 21:52.15 | Simca_ | (back in ye olde days before connected realms) |
| 21:53.01 | Simca_ | it was the BMAH, first response was canned (blah blah we don't do anything about legitimate auctions), but I asked as a reply about the server crash's role in it and they responded again saying they would restore the gold in this specific scenario because of the server crash |
| 21:53.31 | nevcairiel | arent those things tradeable anyway |
| 21:53.32 | jaxdahl | Weâve fully identified and eradicated a bug that caused some players to receive an unintended Mythic Cache reward earlier today. Weâre working to remove all such unintended rewards from any characters who received them. |
| 21:53.57 | foxlit | heh "eradicated" |
| 21:54.17 | Simca_ | the BMAH ones were BoP, only ones from the achievement were BoU |
| 21:54.45 | Simca_ | (which is probably part of the reason they intervened, as I had two of an item I could never use) |
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| 21:55.17 | Simca_ | anyway, I thought their response was very reasonable and better than I expected |
| 21:55.32 | Simca_ | and it made me have a lot of confidence in their ability to resolve weird situations |
| 21:55.44 | Simca_ | at least depending on the person you get to help you |
| 21:57.40 | Simca_ | i had honestly just written it off as a loss but a guildie suggested I should try to ticket them about it because of the weird circumstances |
| 22:05.41 | znf | Semlar: not sure why you would like the system :P |
| 22:05.56 | znf | I mean, it's not inherently bad, it's just mostly uninteresting |
| 22:06.21 | znf | you pick the best 2 damage traits that will most likely not interact with your class toolkit |
| 22:06.31 | znf | some random survivability trait that you will also ignore most of the time |
| 22:07.18 | znf | but if you think that Azerite traits basically replaces 1) legendaries (which were broken as hell in Legion, to be fair), 2) artifact traits, 3) class sets, it really seems very lackluster |
| 22:08.00 | znf | the lack of raid tier bonuses is imho a very huge one, and to just say that it was replaced by the azerite gear is... meh |
| 22:09.44 | znf | hopefully they'll at least adjust the damage traits to be on a more equal footing, otherwise I can see people not equipping those +10 item level (or whatever) pieces because it doesn't have the Dagger in the Back |
| 22:13.52 | Semlar | they replaced the netherlight crucible, and the reason i like it is because it gives you something to progress with on gear whereas without it you'd receive and upgrade and have nothing to do with it until your next upgrade |
| 22:20.23 | znf | but that only works if you're really really behind the curve |
| 22:33.04 | Mr_Rabies | <znf> but if you think that Azerite traits basically replaces 1) legendaries (which were broken as hell in Legion, to be fair), 2) artifact traits, 3) class sets, it really seems very lackluster |
| 22:33.17 | Mr_Rabies | replacing legendaries with lackluster traits is probably a good thing tbh |
| 22:33.37 | znf | the legendaries should have been full-on utility from the start |
| 22:33.49 | Mr_Rabies | but replacing everything else all at once is probably overkill |
| 22:33.51 | znf | Prydaz and the other one that allowed you to move while casting for a bit |
| 22:34.03 | Mr_Rabies | they should at least put the 3 main secondary stats on all azerite gear just to smooth out gameplay a bit |
| 22:34.06 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.59 | znf | also I think Sephuz was a pretty good legendary |
| 22:35.08 | znf | tought people to use more of their CC abilities |
| 22:39.29 | Mr_Rabies | they should have probably rejiggered the talents a bit |
| 22:39.57 | Mr_Rabies | 15 30 45 60 75 90 105 120 |
| 22:40.54 | znf | fuck that, no |
| 22:45.10 | foxlit | not like you need a power spike the moment you hit 120 |
| 22:45.37 | foxlit | (and wq/heroic/instance gear already provides one around there) |
| 22:47.09 | nevcairiel | they could've added a new row, but moving an existing one to a new cap will always make players feel like you've taken a lot away |
| 22:47.39 | Mr_Rabies | i'm advocating adding a new row but keeping the original 15 ilvl difference across all tiers |
| 22:47.48 | znf | good luck with that, they wouldn't :P |
| 22:47.54 | znf | that means they actually have to design new stuff!!! |
| 22:48.13 | znf | but seriously, they could have fucking picked 3 artifact traits and dump them in a new talent row |
| 22:48.20 | Mr_Rabies | tbh they could have probably copied 2/3 of the gold traits from azerite gear into proper talents and had an easy job |
| 22:48.25 | znf | ^ |
| 22:48.26 | znf | :D |
| 22:48.32 | znf | not azerite, artifact |
| 22:48.38 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 22:48.40 | Mr_Rabies | artifacts' |
| 22:48.41 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 22:48.47 | Mr_Rabies | my brain is doing the autocorrect in reverse atm |
| 22:59.03 | znf | Wonder if I can push the price of Redtail to 150g/ea |
| 22:59.06 | znf | I sold my stacks at 100g/ea |
| 23:08.38 | Mr_Rabies | kinda weird all these warfront quest things aren't world quests |
| 23:08.46 | Mr_Rabies | and you pick them up from the npc instead |
| 23:11.17 | znf | we get to see it tomorow :P |
| 23:15.36 | znf | About 4000 fishing casts later, still no fishing mount after the nerf to the droprate |
| 23:16.04 | Torhal | Go back to bitching in #wowace - let me have at least one channel where I don't have to see constant complaints :P |
| 23:17.39 | Thunder_Child | Just like the rest of us, you are not that lucky, Torhal. |
| 23:19.47 | Torhal | :/ |
| 23:21.29 | znf | Torhal: if you keep complaining, I still have you on quakenet |
| 23:21.56 | Torhal | You're evil. |
| 23:22.10 | znf | Never mess with someone who has too much free time on their hands |
| 23:22.48 | Thunder_Child | He will stop if you stop. |
| 23:24.39 | znf | Someone actually made an addon for https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/azeriteforge |
| 23:41.57 | Simca_ | uh oh |
| 23:42.11 | Simca_ | 5 attempts to login so far, all failures |
| 23:42.31 | Simca_ | that's pretty ominous for my raid in an hour where most members log in at the last minute |
| 23:43.38 | znf | "nice" |
| 23:48.03 | Simca_ | up to about 20 or 25 now |
