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| 01:41.31 | Semlar | ah, the map frame isn't consistently 1002x668 any more |
| 01:45.34 | Semlar | if i set it to the argus flight map, WorldMapFrame.ScrollContainer.Child resizes to 3665x2440 |
| 01:56.24 | Simca_ | number of map tiles, size of map tiles, position of map tiles is all variable now |
| 01:56.29 | Simca_ | API returns most of it |
| 01:56.51 | Simca_ | but yeah in theory they could pack a 50k by 50k res map in there if they really wanted to |
| 01:57.52 | Simca_ | it lets them set the number of zoom levels they support for the map too - how many times you can use the zoom in/out function |
| 02:22.38 | Ammako | The floating combat text for holy power is super broken |
| 02:34.20 | Semlar | i guess it's so you can zoom into the zones on the flight map without the textures scaling poorly |
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| 06:02.09 | VIad | https://i.imgur.com/DuMSM7f.mp4 o.o |
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| 06:17.33 | Mr_Rabies | stop strangling that flying goat you jerk |
| 06:57.50 | AcidWeb | There is some magic flag for fontstring that disable truncation? Just let it wrap indefinitely. |
| 07:00.08 | nevcairiel | doesnt it do that if you either give it enough height or let it control its own height |
| 07:01.50 | AcidWeb | apparently :SetNonSpaceWrap(true) does the trick |
| 07:02.12 | AcidWeb | without it it control height up to 5-6 lines and after that truncate |
| 07:02.12 | nevcairiel | oh i guess it doesnt like breaking up words otherwise |
| 07:02.25 | AcidWeb | yeah |
| 07:03.12 | AcidWeb | but still with this set to true it break words only if it is completely necessary |
| 07:03.17 | AcidWeb | perfect |
| 07:10.32 | nevcairiel | Simca_: oh sorry i didnt read properly last night, thats what you get for not capitalizing things at 1am, no i dont think there is any way to instruct it to show a specific art id, there is a little of C state left in there |
| 07:15.07 | VIad | nevcairiel: are there only 3 ways to refer to maps/places? uiMapID, uiMapGroupID, and the instanceID like from UnitPosition? |
| 07:15.54 | nevcairiel | noone uses the group id for anything =p |
| 07:16.21 | VIad | weakaura does to allow you to load WA for a specific map |
| 07:16.28 | VIad | or specific area of a map I guess |
| 07:17.07 | nevcairiel | group ids are for dungeons where multiple uiMapIDs are grouped together |
| 07:17.14 | nevcairiel | why would you not use the instance id instead |
| 07:17.22 | nevcairiel | easier to obtain too |
| 07:17.29 | nevcairiel | and more universally useful |
| 07:17.53 | nevcairiel | but WA always needs to invent new way to be weird, i guess |
| 07:18.12 | VIad | arent there cases where the instanceID and the mapGroupID would not be equal? |
| 07:19.33 | VIad | wouldnt instanceID be equal for all of the outland zones for instance, but mapGroupID different and more logical |
| 07:19.55 | nevcairiel | mapGroupID is not set for outdoor zones at all |
| 07:20.14 | nevcairiel | its only used when you get the s pecial floor selector on the map |
| 07:20.17 | nevcairiel | like in dungeons/raids |
| 07:20.32 | nevcairiel | where you have a constant instance id all around |
| 07:20.39 | VIad | hmm |
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| 07:22.04 | VIad | uh oh, found C_Map.GetAreaInfo(12) that accepts the old areaID system |
| 07:22.37 | VIad | hopefully legacy only reason its there |
| 07:22.56 | VIad | nope used because of C_MapExplorationInfo.GetExploredAreaIDsAtPosition |
| 07:23.26 | nevcairiel | the area ids still exist in the data, but it makes no real difference, those IDs were always rather useless to addons |
| 07:44.02 | VIad | GetQuestBountyInfoForMapID(62) for Darkshore has an empty table response even though there are WQ on it :P |
| 07:47.21 | nevcairiel | thats the wrong API tho |
| 07:48.09 | nevcairiel | there are no bounties in darkshore |
| 07:48.16 | nevcairiel | only WQs |
| 07:48.34 | nevcairiel | (bounty = emissary) |
| 07:52.41 | VIad | it uses that API to check if the tracking filter menu is showing WQ filters or not though |
| 07:54.04 | nevcairiel | darkshore WQs is only a 3 week hack, no need to ivnest too much effort into it =p |
| 07:58.13 | VIad | but the API is flawed since it only shows the WQ filters if there are bounties associated with that zone as well |
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| 07:59.34 | nevcairiel | and every other zone with WQs also has bounties |
| 07:59.50 | nevcairiel | and darkshore will be gone again in 2.5 weeks |
| 07:59.57 | nevcairiel | so nothing to get upset about :p |
| 08:01.35 | VIad | but it's just a happy coinsidence that the WQ filters are visible because you also got bounties in the zones. the moment this isnt the case the filters are hiding wrongly is my point |
| 08:02.05 | nevcairiel | but it is generally always the case, so its irrelevant :p |
| 08:02.45 | nevcairiel | i'm sure if they were to have some permanent place where this would not be the case, they would just fix it |
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| 08:32.00 | zork | morning |
| 08:34.00 | zork | what event does one hook when I want to listen for specilization change? Is it still PLAYER_SPECIALIZATION_CHANGED? |
| 08:47.33 | VIad | think so. /etrace and do it, would trigger :D |
| 08:48.50 | VIad | PLAYER_SPECIALIZATION_CHANGED even fired with arg1 being "player" maybe leftover from "pet" |
| 08:53.28 | nevcairiel | "What even fires when doing X" should never be a question, just do X and look at eventtrace :) |
| 08:54.05 | nevcairiel | events are also further documented in the API docs, so you can reference that to check if the event is actually doing what you think it might be doing |
| 08:56.07 | zork | eventtrace? |
| 08:56.37 | zork | yikes |
| 08:56.57 | VIad | it's pretty handy to /etrace and cross away the stuff you know arent interesting |
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| 08:57.24 | Spaten | better use the totally improved EventTracker addon! |
| 08:57.59 | foxlit | "further documented" is maybe a little overstating it |
| 08:58.17 | Spaten | it includes all args with names! |
| 08:58.29 | zork | @Spaten got a link? |
| 08:58.30 | nevcairiel | eventtracker looks out of date and generally terrible |
| 08:58.35 | nevcairiel | lua file config, really? |
| 08:58.39 | d87 | i just use SPELLS_CHANGED, it also fires on talent changes and when they first become available after login |
| 08:58.58 | Spaten | https://github.com/SpatenLa/EventTracker cant talk about the looks, just took the existing and changed some stuff to work better |
| 08:59.23 | nevcairiel | still seems to have the lua file config instead of doing that ingame =p |
| 08:59.30 | zork | ty |
| 08:59.48 | zork | you with all that ingame configs... |
| 09:00.08 | Spaten | but i found a way to add fake args to the display thats saved in the saved vars |
| 09:00.21 | Spaten | (in a even more horrible way) |
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| 09:05.39 | elshandra | hey so am i right in thinking that CombatLogGetCurrentEventInfo() doesn't return a duration for spell_aura_applied/spell_aura_refresh? that is how it seems to me |
| 09:06.47 | nevcairiel | indeed the combat log does not provide that information |
| 09:07.42 | elshandra | And the only way to get it is from UnitAura() which requires a unitid, that you also don't have during a combat_log_event_* |
| 09:08.22 | d87 | you have guid tho |
| 09:08.32 | elshandra | yeah i have that |
| 09:09.52 | elshandra | if only unitaura would take that but i guess that would be OP ;o) |
| 09:10.27 | d87 | also don't rely on spell_aura_refresh too much, it's not always fired |
| 09:11.30 | elshandra | not relying on it, but not discounting it |
| 09:14.16 | elshandra | essentially i want to track buffs on players who aren't necessarily grouped with me, but might be grouped with others in situations like attonement applications through power word:radiance |
| 09:16.11 | elshandra | so there may be no appropriate unitid :/ |
| 09:17.47 | Spaten | depends if you have friendly nameplates active |
| 09:18.16 | Spaten | or if its the target of a enemy nameplate |
| 09:18.41 | elshandra | yeah, i didn't think there was a way to do it universally ;o( |
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| 09:20.09 | elshandra | and i was coming to the conclusion that the only way to do it would be to scan through everything like that.. as opposed to scanning through an internal list which would be much more efficient :/ |
| 09:23.22 | elshandra | I guess I can store the last spell cast and assume the duration based on if that was pws, sm or pwr |
| 09:24.08 | d87 | well casting radiance on non-grouped people without nameplates is a pretty rare occurrence, it's hard to know anything like that |
| 09:27.51 | d87 | actually if you only scan mouseover and target that should be enough |
| 09:30.26 | elshandra | won't catch other people hit by the radiance |
| 09:30.59 | nevcairiel | seems like a bit of an odd niche to care that much about non-grouped people |
| 09:31.09 | nevcairiel | where does that really happen at any decent scale |
| 09:31.09 | d87 | their duration would be the same i think |
| 09:31.36 | elshandra | it is, only place i can think of is world bosses |
| 09:33.24 | zork | @d87 thanks. settled for SPELLS_CHANGED. https://github.com/zorker/rothui/commit/463a308d6d49704d4863a6562527537be9c099b3 |
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| 10:41.04 | AcidWeb | We should have a betting pool. Considering that every hotfix change IoC gate life. |
| 10:42.05 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.39 | AcidWeb | yep |
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| 11:55.03 | foxlit | what's botherstome is that PLAYER_SPECIALIZATION_CHANGED no longer fires on login |
| 11:56.58 | nevcairiel | well it technically does not change then! |
| 12:03.33 | foxlit | technically, it changes from "I don't know what spec you are" to "You're this spec" |
| 12:07.41 | foxlit | "Error loading Foo.lua" also triggers if Foo.lua is just empty, which is somewhat silly. |
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| 12:37.02 | foxlit | ... GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED just spams with arg1=0. |
| 12:39.42 | foxlit | I think it's because I'm calling GetItemInfo("Moonfire") etc to figure out whether Moonfire is an item |
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| 13:21.13 | VIad | I've also gotten arg1=0 using regular merchant frame so I dunno :P |
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| 13:46.53 | nevcairiel | I believe Dan said that using it with something non-itemy causes the event |
| 13:48.09 | foxlit | but whyyyy |
| 13:49.08 | foxlit | "I got you some data that doesn't actually exist and that you cannot actually retrieve" isn't particularly useful :( |
| 13:49.40 | nevcairiel | well the caller may be waiting for an answer |
| 13:49.51 | foxlit | yeah, and this doesn't even give them that |
| 13:50.06 | foxlit | because you have *no idea* whether that's an answer to *you* or to someone else. |
| 13:50.08 | nevcairiel | how does it otherwise distinguish between not knowing something or not having the data loaded yet |
| 13:50.22 | nevcairiel | well its not like there is a item id it can use =P |
| 13:50.54 | foxlit | so what's the point again? |
| 13:51.15 | nevcairiel | its really a bad idea to call iit with random strings? |
| 13:51.54 | foxlit | how else are you supposed to figure out that /use Horn of Winter will use an item? |
| 13:52.49 | nevcairiel | presumably items the user may cast would already be cached |
| 13:52.54 | nevcairiel | so use GetItemInfoInstant? |
| 13:53.51 | nevcairiel | i guess someone could put some item in there he doesnt actually currently own you might still want to handle that |
| 13:55.26 | foxlit | I don't think they guarantee anything about the cache contents. |
| 13:56.30 | foxlit | (and framexml cheerfully dumps everything from /cast / /use into GetItemInfo anyway) |
| 13:58.58 | nevcairiel | does the event keep spamming endlessly after that? |
| 13:59.09 | AcidWeb | Last hotfix tweaked output of M+ api. 110 chars don't get 120 data anymore. |
| 13:59.46 | foxlit | no, I just keep calling GII endlessly. |
| 13:59.52 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 14:00.48 | foxlit | (because doing anything else is inconvinient, and there's no reasonable way to detect or cache the negative result) |
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| 16:08.05 | Simca_ | ah neat, AcidWeb. that even fixed the blizzard UI's display since they relied on that too |
| 16:09.30 | Simca_ | Funkeh` could I ask for you to pass on https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20766016829#post-14 ? it'd be a huge favor. The ability is doing around 1450% too much healing absorb and ruining the encounter. |
| 16:10.02 | Simca_ | i was hopeful blizz would fix it this week but they haven't noticed it yet, maybe because they hotfixed the damage component of it earlier |
| 16:11.19 | Simca_ | post includes logs from 7.3.5 and from post-nerf 8.0.1 as a comparison |
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| 17:05.32 | Andols | So there is no timestamps in communities chat? |
| 17:10.28 | foxlit | not with that attitude, Andols. |
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| 17:10.55 | Ammako | draw them onto your screen with a marker every time a new message comes in |
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| 17:11.01 | Andols | :( |
| 17:14.10 | foxlit | there's a checkbox somewhere. |
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| 17:24.37 | Andols | Found it |
| 17:24.46 | Andols | Prats Timestamps module is not a friend of that |
| 17:29.17 | VIad | tyrant in HFC mythic wasnt easy with her debuff absorbing 100k hp :D |
| 17:29.29 | VIad | ticks 15% of max hp every 3 seconds, debuff is applied every 10 seconds |
| 17:33.37 | nevcairiel | Andols: its a bit annoying t hat you cannot toggle it individually indeed |
| 17:34.30 | nevcairiel | Andols: i'm currently trying out this to enable the cvar but then lie to the chat frame, not s ure if it breaks all the things later: setfenv(ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler, setmetatable({CHAT_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT = false}, {__index = _G})) |
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| 17:41.02 | Andols | Metatables are still magic for me. |
| 17:44.19 | Andols | Disabled Prats Disable blizzard timestamp part |
| 17:44.59 | Andols | But now i get 2 timestamps (for communities only) in the chatframe. Channels/say etc seems to be filtered somewhere |
| 17:45.01 | Andols | hmm |
| 17:53.37 | Gnarfoz | Andols: tell sylvanaar ;-) |
| 17:53.59 | Andols | I guess you just did :P |
| 17:54.07 | Gnarfoz | kind of :D |
| 17:59.25 | bluspacecowtoo | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/netherlands-bridge-built-especially-for-squirrels-costing-120000-has-been-used-five-times-a6892856.html |
| 17:59.27 | bluspacecowtoo | lol |
| 17:59.30 | bluspacecowtoo | silly noodles |
| 18:00.46 | Constie | I bet it looks really cute when they do use it, though. |
| 18:03.36 | VIad | #worth |
| 18:05.17 | Ammako | Confirmed, if you don't see it it doesn't exist |
| 18:05.56 | Ammako | Or is it like lit up all the time even just for squirrels |
| 18:06.18 | VIad | the beacons are lit |
| 18:06.24 | Ammako | That's lit |
| 18:08.00 | VIad | they should setup a bridge cam and cgi some squirrels on it passing so it looks more used |
| 18:10.20 | Ammako | Finally those mechanical squirrel pets from engineering will be useful |
| 18:10.29 | bluspacecowtoo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEmMPOHEdE4&pbjreload=10 |
| 18:10.31 | bluspacecowtoo | #wat |
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| 18:13.58 | VIad | nevcairiel: map group is used in maps with multiple floors in the open world so there goes the theory you only need mapid and instanceid :D |
| 18:14.26 | VIad | like panda city the alliance city is group 193 because it consists of 2 floors so you could then make a WA only load in the city area |
| 18:17.00 | Ammako | relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdzCv_9eaoM |
| 18:17.42 | nevcairiel | VIad: or you could just list both zones =p |
| 18:18.07 | VIad | ofc, WA allows that now |
| 18:18.46 | VIad | but it's not completely useless! :P |
| 18:18.49 | zenzelezz | 15 years on, "WA" to me still means "West Athens" from Anarchy Online |
| 18:21.47 | VIad | how many vinyls do you need to install windows 95? |
| 18:22.33 | zenzelezz | for our first computer it was 13 floppy disks |
| 18:22.58 | Ammako | at least 1 |
| 18:23.03 | VIad | :P |
| 18:35.56 | Simca_ | yeah every floor is a distinct map, the parent map should have a list of all child maps that are floors |
| 18:38.46 | nevcairiel | things like that are also organized in groups, but i really dont find it useful to refer to stuff like that personally |
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| 20:26.09 | Andols | My battle.net client is in a bad mood :( https://gfycat.com/ImpressiveOrangeAsp |
| 20:27.27 | Ammako | north-east US? |
| 20:28.44 | Andols | Eu |
| 20:30.32 | Ammako | rip |
| 20:56.55 | VIad | GameTooltip:IsUnit() crashed my game |
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| 21:16.54 | Simca_ | yeah it's been mentioned here before |
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| 21:51.32 | pompy1 | "(7/28/2018 4:27:22 PM) Ammako: north-east US?" ............ what are you experiencing? |
| 21:51.56 | Ammako | I'm not from there, but there are known issues in that area |
| 21:52.12 | pompy1 | yeah, twitch isn't playing streams in firefox and shit |
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| 22:26.26 | Stanzilla | Semlar: does questplates have a mode where it only shows a ! instead of the circle with the quest number? |
| 22:31.15 | nebula | i use https://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23784-KibQuestMobs-NameplateQuestIndicator.html |
| 22:32.12 | Stanzilla | hrm |
| 22:33.37 | nebula | with the config mod (not sure why it's not included) you can tweak it quite a bit |
| 22:36.12 | Stanzilla | Semlars replaces the icon with a bag icon if you have to loot something, that's pretty neat |
| 22:41.31 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/DU8mUVl.png |
| 22:42.02 | nevcairiel | is that the number in the quest log? |
| 22:42.06 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:42.11 | nevcairiel | seems like a pointless piece of information |
| 22:42.18 | Stanzilla | it is, it is also wrong all the time |
| 22:42.21 | nevcairiel | the tooltip shows that to you if you really care |
| 22:42.27 | nevcairiel | well, the quest name anyway |
| 22:42.30 | Stanzilla | hence my request |
| 22:42.48 | nevcairiel | should steal that feature and put it in quester |
| 22:42.53 | VIad | RegisterUnitEvent UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT tells me I attempt to register unknown event :( |
| 22:42.59 | Stanzilla | what does quester do |
| 22:43.10 | nevcairiel | spellcast_sent is a personal event only |
| 22:43.15 | VIad | ah great then :x |
| 22:43.20 | nevcairiel | not for other people |
| 22:43.20 | VIad | thanks! |
| 22:43.30 | Stanzilla | what |
| 22:43.32 | VIad | its just what I want anyway, makes sense its person when I think about it |
| 22:44.21 | nevcairiel | the only thing i used it for got broken a while ago anyway |
| 22:44.25 | nevcairiel | ie. lag detection |
| 22:44.29 | nevcairiel | but the timing is broken now |
| 22:49.13 | nebula | it is? |
| 22:49.34 | nevcairiel | it fires at the same timestamps as the others now |
| 22:50.08 | nebula | lame, i didn't notice that |
| 22:50.19 | nevcairiel | yeah its a bit silly |
| 22:52.05 | Semlar | Stanzilla: why would you want that |
| 22:52.15 | nevcairiel | because the number is pointless |
| 22:52.18 | Stanzilla | because the number is wrong and pointless |
| 22:52.25 | Semlar | what? |
| 22:53.01 | Stanzilla | I don't care which number the quest has |
| 22:53.17 | nevcairiel | according to the descrption its supposed to be the remaining number of thingys you need |
| 22:53.20 | Semlar | the number is how many more of that mob you need to finish the quest |
| 22:53.24 | nevcairiel | still pointless for me personally |
| 22:53.28 | Stanzilla | that is even more confusing |
| 22:53.34 | Stanzilla | since it looks like the quest on the map thing |
| 22:54.13 | Semlar | anyway, that other addon literally just ripped the core out of questplates and changed how it displays things |
| 22:55.18 | Semlar | i could add a mode that just puts an exclamation point over their head if you don't want it showing the remaining quest progress |
| 22:55.40 | Stanzilla | in the same position as the number would be nice |
| 22:56.30 | Semlar | i think i put the anchors at the top of the file so you can adjust them if you want |
| 23:04.06 | Gnarfoz | this sounds like something I would want during leveling] |
| 23:04.31 | Semlar | i don't really understand why someone would want less information on it though |
| 23:05.00 | Gnarfoz | "less is more"? ^^ |
| 23:05.27 | Semlar | i find knowing how many more items i need to loot or mobs i have to kill to be pretty helpful |
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