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| 00:40.23 | Simca | my eyes are so bad i usually don't notice |
| 00:40.57 | Simca | i can easily see aliasing in like... N64 games (how could you not unless you were blind) but modern games? it's hard. |
| 00:43.15 | Trela | Show us an example, nevcairiel? o_o |
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| 01:05.51 | nebula | i don't care that much, but msaa messes with the color around edges sometimes and that annoyed me enough to up the render scale |
| 01:08.17 | nebula | rip render scale |
| 01:10.43 | znf | does that pre-patch make the mage tower challenge gtfo? |
| 01:10.48 | nebula | yes |
| 01:10.53 | znf | shit :D |
| 01:10.57 | znf | wonder if I can do it in 4 days :D |
| 01:11.50 | nebula | depends on gear probably, if you're over 900 ilvl they're not too bad |
| 01:12.10 | [TOM_RUS] | blizzard stupidity at it's best https://imgur.com/a/elnDbFI |
| 01:12.27 | [TOM_RUS] | hey are removing system (ML) that basically prevents shit like that from happening without fixing anything... |
| 01:12.49 | znf | oh, also 16th is when ahead of the curve gtfo's right? |
| 01:12.54 | znf | guess I'm not getting that either |
| 01:13.00 | znf | I procrastinated at it's fullest |
| 01:14.52 | Semlar | sounds like they want the drop rate to remain constant |
| 01:15.23 | Semlar | if you could trade it then it would just increase your chance to get the item every time someone else in the raid got it |
| 01:17.02 | nebula | pretty ion said there would be some special casing for mounts, ie you'll still always get one, would be shitty if it could go to someone that already had it, though |
| 01:17.07 | nebula | pretty sure* |
| 01:17.46 | Semlar | this is exactly how nightbane worked |
| 01:18.09 | Semlar | it was a guaranteed drop, but only if nobody in the group already had it |
| 01:18.37 | nebula | thought it was if someone in your group didn't have it |
| 01:19.37 | Semlar | it was a guaranteed drop, but for every person that already had it, the roll would essentially fail if it picked that person to loot it |
| 01:20.00 | Semlar | so if you ran it with 4 other people who had it, and you still didn't have it, you still only had a 1/5 chance of getting it |
| 01:20.10 | nebula | ah |
| 01:20.26 | Semlar | if you did it with 5 people who didn't have it, one person would get the mount |
| 01:21.09 | nebula | that's a pretty shitty system |
| 01:21.52 | Semlar | why |
| 01:24.53 | nebula | raid mounts are a guaranteed drop, have been forever, why would they fuck with that now |
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| 01:42.47 | Torhal | Then explain to me why I still don't have Ashes of Al'ar. |
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| 01:47.15 | nebula | obviously you just don't want it bad enough |
| 01:48.26 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar: nightbane never worked like that... it's alwaays 100% and goes to person who doesn't have it, unless they stealth fixed it after I got it... |
| 01:48.59 | Semlar | i was probably one of the first people to get nightbane and i'm pretty confident that's how it dropped |
| 01:49.06 | [TOM_RUS] | same for guldan mount, only drops to persom missing it |
| 01:50.50 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar: we did it with static 5 man group and it always dropped for us until everyone got it |
| 01:50.51 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/item=142552/smoldering-ember-wyrm#comments it looks like there's a comment on wowhead about it |
| 01:52.17 | Semlar | ah it's about rerunning it before the reset |
| 01:52.29 | [TOM_RUS] | "4 players who are not loot locked & have Nightbane mount + 1 not loot locked player without Nightbane mount = 100% chance the player without the Nightbane mount gets the mount" |
| 01:52.34 | [TOM_RUS] | so 100% like I said |
| 01:52.40 | nebula | that was more to keep people from farming it for one personn |
| 01:53.06 | Semlar | well no, not 100% chance unless you were running it with people who were doing it for the first time |
| 01:53.44 | [TOM_RUS] | first time? |
| 01:53.44 | Semlar | it was a weekly lockout or something |
| 01:53.51 | nebula | no, if four people already had it and ran it with someone that didn't, it was 100% for that person |
| 01:54.10 | nebula | you just couldn't run the dungeon over and over to farm for it, ie sell it |
| 01:54.11 | [TOM_RUS] | yes, you obviously don't run it more once per week, that's pointless... |
| 01:54.26 | Semlar | it was not pointless |
| 01:54.55 | Semlar | it might be pointless at this point in the expansion |
| 01:55.22 | Semlar | but i pretty frequently was running it with people who were locked when it first came out |
| 01:56.45 | [TOM_RUS] | what the point of running it more once per week when it's not 100% chance? better wait next reset nad have 100% chance... |
| 01:57.21 | Semlar | we weren't running it for the mount, we were running it for the loot |
| 02:00.21 | Semlar | iirc you could keep coining loot off of him |
| 02:01.03 | nebula | well regardless, assuming that the system awards a mount to someone 100% every reset unless everyone in the raid has it or is loot locked, that's fine |
| 02:01.24 | nebula | guilds are going to be angry about the loss of loot control but such is life |
| 02:04.38 | Semlar | i do think if a mount is supposed to be a guaranteed drop from a raid boss it should be guaranteed to go to someone who doesn't have it |
| 02:05.38 | Semlar | i much prefer personal loot over master looting though |
| 02:06.12 | Semlar | if that person wants to give their item away they should be able to do it |
| 02:07.06 | nebula | it's like the condition that prevents you from trading loot if it's not an upgrade, blizzard err'd on the side of not bulling people into giving up things they could use |
| 02:07.19 | nebula | /not// |
| 02:17.00 | [TOM_RUS] | nebula: the thing is that it doesn't work this way specifically for argus mount not no fucking reason... according to above mount can drop to someone who already have it with no way to trade it, and that's where problem is.... |
| 02:17.10 | nebula | yea, that's pretty shitty |
| 02:17.44 | nebula | and it's hard to believe it's intentional |
| 02:18.01 | [TOM_RUS] | GM claims it is... |
| 02:18.16 | nebula | because GM's are always right :p |
| 02:18.16 | [TOM_RUS] | but GM's aften talk bullshit... |
| 02:19.08 | [TOM_RUS] | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20765726799#post-3 same issue, same bullshit answer |
| 02:19.21 | [TOM_RUS] | clueless blizzard is clueless |
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| 02:21.57 | znf | remember when GMs were cool? |
| 02:23.25 | [TOM_RUS] | that was, may be, like 10 years ago? |
| 02:24.11 | [TOM_RUS] | now they just spit some template answer saying they can't do shit at you and that's about it... |
| 02:33.02 | znf | eh, remember they also give out free game time if you ask them nicely! |
| 02:35.58 | nebula | level 1 people ain't authorized to do shit |
| 02:39.38 | znf | what's the cheat code to get to lvl2? |
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| 02:40.33 | [TOM_RUS] | I had them to give me few days at start of Legion |
| 02:41.01 | [TOM_RUS] | actually asked for free transfer, but they refused and gave few days isntead... |
| 02:41.21 | znf | that's a useful trade |
| 02:41.21 | znf | not |
| 02:41.40 | znf | the cost of transfers is still absurdly high |
| 02:41.42 | znf | it's fine for one char |
| 02:41.45 | znf | but if you have a few... |
| 02:43.41 | [TOM_RUS] | it's every overpriced even for single character, in Russia it's almost 3x more than 1 month of game time |
| 02:44.49 | [TOM_RUS] | 1 month is ~549RUB while transfer is 1500RUB |
| 02:45.25 | znf | ouch |
| 02:45.26 | znf | geez |
| 02:46.27 | [TOM_RUS] | hmm, it's actually 1350RUB, but still a lot... |
| 02:47.33 | [TOM_RUS] | they also have shady wowtoken system in Russia |
| 02:48.15 | [TOM_RUS] | where they sell for in the shop for 1400 RUB or around that but it only gives you 1 month or 549RUB on battle.net balance |
| 02:50.09 | nebula | i mean it's more or less the same everywhere else, buying them for game time is more expensive that just buying game time |
| 02:52.10 | [TOM_RUS] | it's like 30% difference everywhere, but in Russia, where it's more like 150% difference... |
| 02:56.05 | znf | to be fair, I think your monthly game time is just too cheap |
| 02:56.23 | znf | if I recall correctly, your gametime is far cheaper than the rest of EU |
| 02:56.31 | [TOM_RUS] | it is |
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| 05:17.47 | Mr_Rabies | <nevcairiel> See people being proud of some particular in-game screenshot they are posting, see the screenshot suffering from strong aliasing .. having to resist urge to write angry response to get them to fix their graphics settings. How does not everyone get into rage when seeing aliasing in 3d rendering |
| 05:18.18 | Mr_Rabies | for some reason, wow looks better to me with antialiasing off, the aliasing isn't super noticable, but some games i have to crank it way up |
| 05:19.13 | Mr_Rabies | could be my video card doing some kind of passive AA that works really well with wow or something, but i doubt it, i can notice a significant difference in clarity with it off |
| 05:21.40 | Mr_Rabies | in motion at least, i definitely see aliasing on my screenshots, looking at them now |
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| 06:57.14 | nevcairiel | Trela: here have an example i saw on twitter yesterday https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg41ze7V4AEca0U.jpg:large |
| 06:58.59 | nevcairiel | edges everywhere! |
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| 07:03.27 | nevcairiel | <znf> oh, also 16th is when ahead of the curve gtfo's right? <-- curve remains until expansion launch |
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| 07:11.33 | Simca | it does not |
| 07:12.07 | Simca | AotC is dead on 17th, along with bird mount from argus kill since it's linked, The Chosen achievement, and basically anything else that uses the achievement system |
| 07:12.37 | nevcairiel | wasnt that expansion launch in previous expansions |
| 07:13.20 | Simca | no, the mythic kill mounts will stay 100% until expansion launch |
| 07:13.25 | Simca | then they go to 1% |
| 07:13.31 | Simca | they're not linked to any achievements |
| 07:13.34 | nevcairiel | that seems inconsistent =p |
| 07:14.17 | Simca | it's basically all whether or not it uses achievement data because blizzard doesn't want to hotfix in drastic achievement changes so they force those out at 8.0 then the rest goes at expansion launch |
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| 08:54.10 | Simca | making that bug report about mythic+ mob weight errors now, they still all look unfixed |
| 09:06.27 | Alram | 8.0 should be good |
| 09:06.40 | Alram | hopefully they fixed the exploit where you could get to kul tiras |
| 09:06.44 | Alram | before launch |
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| 09:32.04 | Simca | excellent |
| 09:32.21 | Simca | hitting post on blizzard site took me to the index except my thread is not there |
| 09:32.25 | Simca | waited 10 minutes, still not there |
| 09:32.57 | Simca | i hadn't even been composing it that long, maybe a little over an hour |
| 09:33.14 | nevcairiel | the blizzard forums are a piece of crap |
| 09:33.18 | nevcairiel | i dont know why they are so terrible |
| 09:33.27 | AcidWeb | That is official blizzard forum. If your post not contained enought salt, rage and whining it was automatically rejected. |
| 09:33.36 | Alram | Simca you might be able to hit back |
| 09:33.40 | Alram | sometimes that shit is saved |
| 09:33.57 | nevcairiel | i always need to fully re-start my browser to even login to the forums |
| 09:34.09 | nevcairiel | i have no clue why |
| 09:34.15 | Alram | i need to wait a huge amount of time before us.battle.net even loads |
| 09:34.18 | Simca | it's not marla, create topic is part of the index page so it doesn't save the form properly when it is forced back to itself |
| 09:34.23 | Alram | :( |
| 09:34.35 | Alram | my condolences |
| 09:34.52 | Simca | the words are somewhere in chrome memory still, i'll just search through the running chrome processes and yank my text out of memory |
| 09:34.58 | Simca | it's just super tedious |
| 09:35.22 | Alram | sure hope so |
| 09:36.00 | Simca | i once pulled an entire essay out of memory because the page rejected the submission and didn't save it 10 minutes before it was due |
| 09:36.06 | Simca | that was rage inducing |
| 09:36.14 | nevcairiel | one doesnt author complex things in browser windows |
| 09:36.17 | nevcairiel | have you not learned yet |
| 09:36.29 | Alram | a fair point |
| 09:36.52 | Simca | i wrote my 103,000 character challenge guide in notepad for what it's worth |
| 09:37.18 | Simca | but several paragraphs? nah, usually don't get out notepad for that |
| 09:48.10 | nevcairiel | on the blizzard forums i do, because i know they are crap |
| 09:51.57 | Alram | when is wow getting the discourse forums |
| 09:52.12 | AcidWeb | right after dance studio |
| 09:52.21 | Alram | rip |
| 09:52.39 | nevcairiel | should just move everything to ingame communities now |
| 09:59.06 | Torhal | AcidWeb: I thought the Dance Studio was coming after Path of the Titans. |
| 09:59.51 | Simca | the blizzard forums are so bad because they have like nobody working on them, at least that's the last i heard several years ago |
| 10:00.20 | Simca | their web design people are working on battle.net stuff mainly |
| 10:00.46 | Alram | which is probably why the new forums use discourse |
| 10:00.50 | Alram | cba to dev something themselves |
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| 17:38.03 | ls-_ | TheDanW: hi o/ what is UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED_QUIET event for? when does it fire? |
| 17:58.44 | nevcairiel | there is a bunch of hidden spells it fires for |
| 17:58.49 | nevcairiel | just look at the event dumps |
| 17:58.56 | nevcairiel | usually tracking spells and whatnot |
| 18:01.12 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 18:05.31 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
| 18:06.10 | Fisker | going to Bornholm soon? |
| 18:06.28 | nevcairiel | cant say I am |
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| 18:39.43 | VIad | nevcairiel: if I spirit bomb and mount up I get spammed with the non quiet variety that I can't do that while mounted for like 30 seconds. it's very annoying and been like this since legion :P |
| 18:43.17 | VIad | reported it but maybe we'll get a fix for 10.x |
| 18:45.40 | VIad | it's one of those small things players will see error messages of for yet a couple of years at least. kind of annoying but you do get used to it. like a crying baby in the train, not fun but like what can you do? |
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| 19:40.49 | Spaten | Good Day everyone. I am here to take nice informations and give nothing in return. so i have a question. You can with the ingame api documentation the parameters of all events except cleu because they are no longer parameters. so the question is, is there another way to get those parameters ingame? |
| 19:41.29 | ls- | TheDanW: could you pls add castGUID to UnitChannelInfo? this way it'll be on par w/ UnitCastingInfo |
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| 19:48.51 | zenzelezz | right now it's more of a bogie? |
| 19:50.42 | TheDanW | Spaten: it's unchanged from legion, gamepedia's docs are probably still correct |
| 19:51.59 | TheDanW | ls-: maybe, i'll add it to the list |
| 19:52.10 | DiscordBot5 | <Stanzilla> Happy birthday nevcairiel |
| 19:52.30 | Spaten | its more about the fact that i did update the eventtracker addon for me and took the event parameters from the ingame apidoc, wich means i can fill around 1000 events with the parameter names with 8 lines, but i have also around 80 lines where i hardcoded the parameter names for the CLEU events |
| 19:53.51 | nevcairiel | the complex thing about CLEU is of course that parameters are context dependent |
| 19:53.59 | ls- | TheDanW: ty, because right now it's a bit weird, https://hastebin.com/vemezuyuqe.txt >_> |
| 19:54.04 | Spaten | i assume thats the main problem |
| 19:54.05 | nevcairiel | which is probably part of the reason why its not in the api docs |
| 19:54.06 | ls- | "a bit" |
| 19:55.53 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: separate events! |
| 19:56.08 | Funkeh` | bring back the golden days of vanilla combat log api |
| 19:56.38 | zenzelezz | one event to rule them all |
| 19:57.00 | Spaten | SOMETHING_HAPPEND |
| 20:06.17 | Torhal | TheDanW: WTB C_PetJournal.GetPetIDs and C_ToyBox.GetToyIDs similar to C_MountJournal so I don't have to do the filter dance. :D |
| 20:09.08 | zenzelezz | Torhal: â¬30k in umnarked bills |
| 20:09.25 | Torhal | Thanks for offering, zenzelezz. |
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| 20:44.36 | Funkeh` | I like how the curseforge.com comment system is still the pure garbage they've had since the "rewrite", the authors portal has a better comments system. |
| 20:45.42 | Funkeh` | No avatars, no obvious way of seeing who the author is like name colors, random spacing that doesn't make sense |
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| 21:47.58 | TheDanW | Torhal: i think i have them on the list already |
| 21:49.11 | Torhal | Oh, nice. |
| 22:05.10 | nevcairiel | thanks DiscordBot5! =p |
| 22:19.19 | zenzelezz | discord bots? What has the world come to if we are already abandoning IRC |
| 22:21.28 | nevcairiel | some people believe that web browsers should just do everything |
| 22:21.32 | nevcairiel | which is of course utter nonsense |
| 22:22.19 | zenzelezz | pfft |
| 22:22.23 | zenzelezz | seamonkeys, all of them |
| 22:27.34 | zenzelezz | 50% of people will not get it; the other 50% will just think I'm seriously unfunny |
| 22:28.53 | Torhal | TIL brine shrimp prefer web browsers for everything. |
| 22:30.10 | zenzelezz | they're a highly evolved, yet old-school, breed |
| 22:54.38 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
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| 22:55.31 | zenzelezz | I'm amused thaT you chose him as the target |
| 22:57.03 | znf | Torhal is the best target |
| 22:57.07 | znf | throws cats at Torhal |
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