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00:21.10*** topic/#wowuidev is BfA Author Keys! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56267 || 7.3.x ToC: 70300 || http://pastebin.com || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl
00:28.16foxlitIt's a little odd that MOUSEWHEELUP/MOUSEWHEELDOWN bindings override the OnMouseWheel handler of the button you're hovering over.
00:30.59foxlit... that's not right. I was betrayed by a by a stack of OnLoad scripts in a frame inheriting from multiple templates, causing the :EnableMouseWheel() to never be called.
00:35.21foxlit... that's not right either. :EnableMouseWheel() actually does nothing, because it thinks it is is really :SetMouseWheelEnabled(enabled), and requires a truthy argument to actually register you for mousewheel events.
00:37.13foxlit... and nobody informed SecureHandlerMouseWheelTemplate of this, so https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/latest/SecureHandlerTemplates.xml#100 is just misleading placebo.
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01:52.11ChipzzThunder_Child: no, you can't see it anyway because you use OpenGL and Blizzard neglected to implement the relevant shader ;P
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08:52.34IndustrialHi. I want to fix some addons. Say I have a function like `function MaxDps:Aura(name, timeShift, filter)
08:52.34Industrial` and an error `Usage: UnitAura("unit", [index][, "filter"])`
08:54.02IndustrialHow would I change that aura name into .. hmm. Is there a list of API changes or something? :-) Maybe there's a better way (or different) then UnitAura now to achieve what this code wants.
09:11.15ThiefMaster<MentalPower> So, Apple is deprecating OpenGL. Does WoW have a Metal backend already? <- was it written by the death metal knight? :p
09:11.27ThiefMasteroh lol, didn't scroll down all the way
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10:23.03ChipzzIndustrial: yes there was an API change to UnitAura, you can no longer use he name, you have to iterate over all the auras (which was what the previous implementation did anyway) IIRC
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10:43.13IndustrialChipzz, okay
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13:44.22p3limany of you got a nice little snippet for disabling the XML errors?
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14:00.04AndolsI think nevcairiel wrote something
14:12.04nevcairielp3lim: Andols: https://pastebin.com/yZQL6pB7 .. if you just want to disable them, you'll figure which part of that does that, mine also redirects it to the usual bug addon you use
14:14.01nevcairiel(while hiding some of the imho useless ones)
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16:26.12VIadI guess there will be an UnitAuraLib to make it easier to check for auras by name, spellIDs or whatnot :P
16:26.35VIadhopefully something that caches stuff of course, lod behavior.
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16:26.53Funkeh`why would you cache aura info lol
16:27.08VIadI dunno man. maybe just iterating isnt that bad.
16:27.47VIadfor k, v in UnitAuraLib(name|id) do end
16:27.48nimhfreeyou will not cache auras unless you can be told when new ones are added and old ones expire
16:27.51Funkeh`maybe just stop whining about it and accept the fate that blizz cares less about efficiency and more about some random ideal of not using spell names
16:28.21VIadhey, gotta think a bit for bfa what the best approach would be :P
16:28.51Funkeh`yes well that's going to detect upon how you're using it
16:28.56Funkeh`depend*
16:30.02nimhfreeas far as I know UNIT_AURA just tells you there is a change in the auras and not what type of change has happened
16:30.24VIadwould be nice with a UNIT_AURA_CHANGED that only ran when a aura is added or removed :P
16:31.13VIadUNIT_AURA seems to fire every second
16:31.23Funkeh`that's what UNIT_AURA does...
16:31.33Funkeh`then filter it by unit?
16:31.50VIadso if arg2 said true or false to specify if there are changes to the auras, not just duration changes, could be neat
16:32.11VIadthen again not sure if blizz own internal code really knows that for that event :d
16:32.26Funkeh`if you're talking about an aura refreshing, ofc it's going to fire for that
16:32.40Funkeh`you're technically removing it and applying a new one
16:33.46VIadjust logged on the beta and remembered to check with you guys from the states, but does the world map take 3 seconds to properly populate the view when you zoom out and zoom into a new zone?
16:34.07nimhfreeUNIT_AURA does not fire when the duration of the aura changes
16:34.15VIadit feels very load on demandy for me, and it doesn't seem to even like, cache the world map textures and such
16:34.18Funkeh`it takes however long it takes to load the assets from your disk
16:34.51VIadonce cached it still takes like 0.5 sec to visually show you the map again if I toggle the view between zones
16:36.20Funkeh`it's a beta build everything will be slower
16:38.09VIadah ok. was curious if it was like that if it tried to requery the server and since I play with some MS that could be it :P
16:38.52VIadfor bfa it seems nameplate addons will have potential
16:39.14VIadtank nameplates to help figure out what units you are going to lose threat on if the other peoples dps keeps up and such
16:39.32VIadsome sort of visual aid where you should build threat and such in larger packs of elites.
16:39.50VIador even help with important dispellable buffs now that its back to being a common mechanic.
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17:37.44VIadit's sad bfa didn't bring locale-less CHAT_MSG_LOOT and such events, and make the chat frame format the event output
17:41.54Funkeh`use the item id in the string
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20:00.21nicksdooranyway I can avoid tainting stuff when modifying globals? Trying to modify CHAT_FRAME_TAB_SELECTED_MOUSEOVER_ALPHA but that causes taint apparently, since it seems like Blizzard_CombatLog.lua accesses it
20:04.15foxlitno.
20:04.58foxlitbut why do you care about the combat log?
20:06.42nicksdoorI generally don't, but I don't know what else it would taint along the way
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20:48.37mkeugh the hoops you have to jump through to bypass all this sizing and checking scales for the actionbars and the bag thing is a total p.i.t.a
21:02.40Gnarfozjust make your own *nod nod*
21:04.00StanzillaTheDanW: any hints as to where the chat class color settings went?
21:04.07modernistleaning that way, yes
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21:20.08TheDanWi don't think it went anywhere
21:20.53TheDanWsome code was moved around iirc
21:21.10TheDanWbut its still intact i believe
21:21.58[TOM_RUS]TheDanW: please tell to whoever in charge for those db2 column swaps that he is a bad guy and should stop doing that
21:22.16TheDanWi'll be sure to let them know
21:25.04StanzillaTheDanW: they are currently gone from the chat settings but it looks a bit glitchy
21:39.27nimhfreeStanzilla: are those different from RAID_CLASS_COLORS?
21:40.11Stanzillano
21:45.55Funkeh`he's right the class colour options are totally gone, but forcing them on via code works fine
21:48.00Stanzillawhy would I make this up :o
21:51.45Funkeh`because I don't remember seeing that in the diff and it's a really odd change to just remove that
21:55.34TheDanWgotcha, i thought you were talking about something else
21:55.47TheDanWthe intent is to remove the option, but make it the default
21:55.57TheDanWonly part of that is done atm
21:56.28Funkeh`Stanzilla: for k in next, getmetatable(ChatTypeInfo).__index do SetChatColorNameByClass(k, true) end
21:58.45StanzillaI see
22:02.15nevcairielYou know I'm slightly annoyed by the world wide launch being aligned on Europe time. Why not US time, that would be early morning on Europe, a much more enjoyable time to start playing :D
22:08.58nimhfreeoh they are launching at midnight.  that is annoying…no world/realm firsts for me :-(
22:09.21nevcairielWell it was always midnight so no change for europe
22:11.17nevcairielBut aren't realm firsts mostly gone anyway
22:11.53nimhfreeno idea…i was never in the running for any of them :-)
22:16.29Justwaityea leveling rf been gone since cata? or something
22:16.41Justwaitactually in mop I guess
22:16.49Justwaitthat's the last one I remember getting
22:17.45nevcairielI was on a super high pop realm back then, so much competition, came in only in top 5 or so
22:18.30Justwaitmy biggest regret was not waiting in Cata
22:18.38JustwaitRogerbrown was like 20-30 min behind me
22:18.42Justwaitand I didn't want to wait lol
22:19.06Justwaitcared more about the world leveling rank
22:19.06nevcairielI got a buggy quest in cata blocking my progression at like 6am so I went to bed frustrated :P
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22:19.11Justwaitwhich is useless
22:20.02nevcairielHaven't done power leveling like that in WoD or Legion anymore
22:20.11nevcairielWe did legion in a group, was pretty fun
22:21.03Justwaitwell leveling in small groups is usually still the fastest ways
22:21.06Justwaitas you complete quests faster
22:21.30Justwaitand we've been required to complete the quests to unluck stuff at max level, so not doing them is a efficiency loss
22:21.32nevcairielThese days collect quests are also largely group compatible
22:21.47Justwaityep it's only gotten beter for groups
22:22.04Stanzillai noticed how bad it was back then when levelling my allied races chars
22:22.13Stanzillalevelling in a group was actually slower
22:22.14Justwaitrarly there's quests where everyone has to loot x objects, and if that's the case they are individual to click on so not shared and waiting for respawns
22:22.35Justwaitin what expansion part Stanzilla
22:22.41Justwaitthe recent ones?
22:22.45Stanzillaclassic
22:22.47Stanzillaand wrath
22:22.50Stanzillaand bc
22:22.52nevcairielMy tiredness down point was in azsuna, I barely fell asleep every other quest, I think this time I'll just sleep in between
22:23.11Justwaitand you started with azsune? ;) ;)
22:23.37nevcairielClassic areas went past so fast, it really slowed down in wrath for me
22:23.38nevcairielNah it was the third I think
22:23.46nevcairielDon't even remember full order anymore
22:24.10nevcairielWas around 10am or so when it really hit me
22:24.15Justwaitit'll be interesting in bfa
22:24.23Justwaitthey promote the whole world pvp thing with extra exp
22:24.32Justwaitbut we are leveling on 2 seperate continents
22:24.39nevcairielYeah not going to do that
22:24.40Justwaitkinda defeats that purpose the first days
22:24.46Justwaitwhy not
22:24.47StanzillaI thought I read that only kicks in on max lvl?
22:24.50Justwaitit's free exp
22:25.04Justwaitat max level it's increased rep rewards and stuff
22:25.09Stanzillaah ok
22:25.20nevcairielNeed to finish the zones anyway
22:25.55Justwaitthe faster you are 120, the faster you will get max level rewards from the quests
22:26.42Justwait+ as I said, very unlikely that alliance is going to come over and kill you the first hours of the expansion :D
22:26.52Justwait(or horde, but who plays alliance??)
22:27.44Stanzilla<
22:27.45nimhfreealliance ftw
22:35.02StanzillaI don't even know if I am going to play on release
22:35.05Stanzillastill in burn out mode
22:37.38nevcairieli like new expansion starts
22:40.15Justwaityea it's fun for a few weeks
22:40.20Justwaitthen raid opens and shit hits the fan
22:40.23nevcairielstill unsure what to do about the guild situation
22:51.13Stanzillaso far BfA looks super boring to me though
22:51.55Stanzillabut I am no longer the target audience so that's fine
22:52.42Thunder_ChildBecause you became an old man?
22:58.12Parnicthat "removal of spell rank" change was a doozy
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23:11.16nimhfreeI think they have done a pretty good job with the stories in the zones.  I especially like Nazmir.

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