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| 07:44.48 | Elmoe | what is the equivalent of GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel in the new C_Map API? |
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| 08:06.37 | [TOM_RUS] | there's no levels anymore, just uimapid's, each level has it's own id |
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| 08:31.21 | Elmoe | [TOM_RUS]: ok thanks |
| 08:32.10 | Elmoe | hmm does battle shout do nothing now on beta? I read it was supposed to buff str/agi but the tooltip says attack pwr and doesn't modify str on a warr |
| 08:32.25 | Elmoe | maybe still just a placeholder |
| 08:32.55 | nevcairiel | it should do attack power, but attack power is not shown in the stats, isnt it? |
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| 09:57.19 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: hmm I thought in legion they just removed attack power finally and everything just is str or agi now? |
| 09:57.37 | nevcairiel | well this aint legion anymore |
| 09:57.39 | Elmoe | certainly attack power is no longer shown on the character frame |
| 09:58.00 | Elmoe | true maybe it is back now |
| 09:58.03 | Elmoe | do items have it again? |
| 10:00.16 | nevcairiel | they changed all abilities to scale with AP instead of weapon damage in BfA, which gives them a more consistent behavior |
| 10:00.23 | nevcairiel | but i dont think its on any items as such |
| 10:00.25 | nevcairiel | maybe trinket procs |
| 10:00.46 | Elmoe | or like guns |
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| 10:04.44 | nevcairiel | UnitAttackPower certainly still exists |
| 10:04.55 | nevcairiel | should modify my personal addon to show attack power in the char panel again |
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| 11:09.32 | Elmoe | so UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT used to return castingUnit,spellName, spellRank,targetUnit. In BFA alpha it was changed to return castingUnit,spellId,spellLineId. Now in the most recent build it was changed to return just castingUnit,spellLineId? |
| 11:10.31 | Elmoe | TheDanW: any clarity here on what UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT payload is intended to be? really want castingUnit,spellId,targetUnit basically the old payload minus name and rank + id if possible |
| 11:11.12 | nevcairiel | the unit is supposed to return |
| 11:11.42 | Elmoe | right now it appears to return just the casting unit and the line ID |
| 11:11.47 | Elmoe | no more target unit and not even the spell ID |
| 11:12.42 | nevcairiel | i still get the spell id here |
| 11:12.48 | Elmoe | which arg? |
| 11:13.03 | nevcairiel | in fact i also seem to be getting a target |
| 11:13.24 | Elmoe | I got arg1 castingUnit, arg2 lineID and arg3 nil |
| 11:13.56 | nevcairiel | i get caster, target, lineid, spellid |
| 11:14.08 | nevcairiel | target is a name, not a unit tho |
| 11:14.16 | Elmoe | yeah thats fine |
| 11:14.26 | Elmoe | maybe I just forgot to reload let me double check |
| 11:15.02 | Elmoe | sigh yes that was it |
| 11:15.04 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: sorry |
| 11:15.09 | Elmoe | on that note definitely time to sleep |
| 11:15.12 | nevcairiel | https://i.imgur.com/dn6cMu1.jpg |
| 11:15.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:15.29 | Elmoe | thanks for the help |
| 11:16.29 | nevcairiel | anyone know how i can get to dalaran/broken isles on the beta? stormwind is phased out and the legion starting questline isnt visible |
| 11:17.22 | nevcairiel | i see some people in dalaran, but they dont answer me how they got there :( |
| 11:23.15 | Infus | mage portal |
| 11:23.42 | nevcairiel | does a premade mage have that spell? |
| 11:23.44 | nevcairiel | guess i can try |
| 11:24.33 | nevcairiel | it does not |
| 11:25.50 | nevcairiel | oh but i can learn it |
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| 15:43.41 | blufrizzycow | this is what happens when I blow dry my hair too long |
| 15:43.41 | blufrizzycow | *poof* |
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| 15:45.39 | Thunder_Child | https://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/20130604-12552987-fluffycow4.jpg <- blufrizzycow. |
| 15:46.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:47.52 | blufrizzycow | ya seriously |
| 15:47.58 | blufrizzycow | like microphone hair |
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| 16:20.58 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 16:21.00 | Fisker | i |
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| 16:50.57 | Simca | Hey TheDanW I found a spot on Live where it's very easy to replicate the addon sound issues with a low party size. Using DBM during the boss fight with King Deepbeard in Eye of Azshara. If the fight goes on for a couple minutes, sound will cut out for addons. I think it's because the boss keeps spawning entities that make the quake noise (the cracks in the ground). |
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| 17:19.37 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.22 | blufrizzycow | lol wheres that from |
| 17:21.51 | foxlit | popup for a browser plugin from a less-than-trustworthy ad network. Apparently the wording is popular. |
| 17:23.01 | blufrizzycow | the battle.net ToU has similar wording but stops at verbage on viruses |
| 17:23.03 | blufrizzycow | virii ? |
| 17:30.54 | TheDanW | Simca: thanks, i'll let QA know |
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| 19:17.10 | Tentacled | OK, this is a weird stack trace. [C] GetWidth calls an OnSizeChanged handler in one of my frames. What..? |
| 19:22.20 | Tentacled | This might be the root of the FontString sizing issues I reported earlier - apparently fontstrings aren't at fault; they were being forced to a negative width, because I subtracted an offset from some frame's :GetWidth() which should never return 0, and yet it did. |
| 19:22.53 | TheDanW | when you set anchors or sizes we defer the anchor calculation until as late as possible, this optimizes the cases like changing more anchors or the frame is hidden |
| 19:23.09 | TheDanW | explicitly asking for the size will force anchors to be resolved immediately |
| 19:23.36 | Tentacled | Ouch. So GetWidth() is not a getter, but more of a CalculateWidth()? |
| 19:24.59 | Tentacled | I foresee issues with such an approach. Getters should be getters, I think. If a frame's OnSizeChanged calls the same frame's GetWidth, won't it loop? |
| 19:25.09 | TheDanW | sort of, you usually don't have to think about it, it's a "logically constant" operation, except for OnSizeChanged |
| 19:26.15 | TheDanW | no, it's cached then |
| 19:26.34 | Tentacled | Ah, that's why my loop ended at the 3rd iteration. |
| 19:26.49 | TheDanW | once anchors are resolved then they're known until something forces them to be recalculated, like changing anchors, sizes, parents, etc |
| 19:27.09 | Tentacled | My usual "update frame visuals" function was calling a GetWidth, which called OnSizeChanged, which called update visuals, which called OnSizeChanged...... |
| 19:28.09 | TheDanW | that said, OnSizeChanged is INCREDIBLY dangerous and very easy to misuse, changing sizes, visibility, anchors, parents etc can invalidate the very anchor that just calculated, potentially forcing the size to get updated again, WHILE you're inside an OnSizeChanged handler already |
| 19:28.45 | TheDanW | if possible do the minimal amount of work in OnSizeChanged, and process the rest later, set a flag and process it in OnUpdate for example |
| 19:29.05 | Tentacled | Perhaps OnSizeChanged could then fire on the next frame or something..? - or, like you're saying, defer its workings. That could work, too. |
| 19:29.27 | Tentacled | But as it is, I'll try to produce a test case, because at SOME point in that luckily broken loop the GetWidth() was returning a 0. |
| 19:29.42 | TheDanW | it has the same problem, spread across multiple frames, you get the worst of both worlds |
| 19:30.48 | Tentacled | I was observing a triple-layered call stack, with GetWidth() returning a proper 300, then a 0, then again a 0, and that was the last run - hence my problems with a subframe ultimately being set to 0. |
| 19:32.02 | Tentacled | (Triple-layered, meaning, MyUpdateFrame -> [C] GetWidth -> OnSizeChanged -> MyUpdateFrame -> [C] GetWidth -> OnSizeChanged -> MyUpdateFrame ) |
| 19:32.39 | Tentacled | or something to that effect. |
| 19:32.48 | TheDanW | sounds about right, as long as you're not introducing a cycle its generally safe to change anchors in the handler, but it looks like you have cyclic dependency |
| 19:33.26 | Tentacled | Not cyclic in anchor sense, but it could be cyclic in manual size calculations, indeed. |
| 19:33.44 | Tentacled | Buuuut, GetWidth()==0... :P |
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| 20:10.16 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: thanks again for the help last night, brain wasn't working that late |
| 20:10.29 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: what was that cool little addon that you showed me in the screenshot? the one that lets you inspect the events |
| 20:24.58 | Funkeh`` | err, probably /etrace? |
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| 20:31.07 | nevcairiel | Yeah just /eventtrace built into the game |
| 20:32.29 | Elmoe | wow TIL |
| 20:32.30 | Elmoe | thank you |
| 20:32.49 | Gnarfoz | (there's also /framestack and /tinspect) |
| 20:33.06 | Elmoe | yeah /fstack I knew about but not the event tracer |
| 20:34.37 | Gnarfoz | anyone stuck with administering MySQL and have an idea why GRANTs would succeed without any error but not have any effect? (I wanted to copy privileges from an old user to a new user, did SHOW GRANTS for the old one, replaced name and... nothing. so weird.) |
| 20:35.31 | nevcairiel | Did you flush the privileges? |
| 20:36.17 | nevcairiel | Otherwise it may cache grant permissions |
| 20:36.35 | Gnarfoz | not when doing GRANT whatever; |
| 20:36.54 | Gnarfoz | that's only necessary when manipulating the tables in the "mysql" db directly |
| 20:37.21 | Gnarfoz | (I tried it anyway, but that's strongly within "a reboot shouldn't change anything, but I'll reboot anyway" territory ^^) |
| 20:37.56 | nevcairiel | That's all I know anyway |
| 20:38.43 | nevcairiel | Verify stuff is actually correct? I often messed up like user host or whatever |
| 20:38.59 | nevcairiel | Because that concept is insane in MySQL |
| 20:39.20 | Gnarfoz | checked a couple of times, but since I'm using output from mysql's "show grants" as input, I'd assume it's syntactically correct (it's not erroring) |
| 20:40.06 | Gnarfoz | (and yeah, it's blablabla to 'userb'@'%', but since it was 'usera'@'%' before, there's not much I could have gotten wrong there; and the db/table names have certainly not changed) |
| 20:41.45 | Thunder_Child | Syntax would be my guess. I have that issue with postgres. It's very anoying that it does not return an error for some things. |
| 20:52.33 | Gnarfoz | I'm doing it from home now, and it works just as I'd expect it to |
| 20:53.00 | Gnarfoz | only conclusion I can draw is that my ssh session at work must be haunted |
| 20:53.59 | Gnarfoz | (only when copy & pasting, though, dumping the output from "show grants" back into it still does nothing. weeeeird) |
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| 21:29.31 | foxlit | Would it be silly to announce an addon API deprecation by making it increasingly more likely to throw an error over time? |
| 21:29.56 | nevcairiel | i just post a note somewhere and remove it then :p |
| 21:30.43 | foxlit | Thinking more of securecall(error, "Moo") than an actual error. |
| 21:31.05 | nevcairiel | that annoys users more then devs using your api |
| 21:32.30 | Elmoe | foxlit: theoretically if they are using the curse packager can't you tell all the downstream dependencies on your library? |
| 21:32.35 | foxlit | kind of the point, they can then whine at whoever and hopefully get it fixed before the functionality they were using goes away. |
| 21:32.44 | Elmoe | foxlit: and then proactively message those authors the deprecation plan |
| 21:32.54 | nevcairiel | use the expansion change like any other and just remove it flat out |
| 21:33.06 | nevcairiel | people are accustomed to shit breaking on expansions changes |
| 21:33.21 | foxlit | That works like once every two years. |
| 21:33.28 | nevcairiel | well the key is, it works now |
| 21:34.08 | foxlit | Elmoe: it's not a library/embedding situation, so the packager does nothing. |
| 21:34.32 | foxlit | I could probably track down everyone involved, but meh. |
| 21:34.39 | Elmoe | foxlit: hmm how do people depend on your API then exactly? |
| 21:34.52 | nevcairiel | its probably just an addon that allows people to clal into it |
| 21:35.02 | nevcairiel | like TomTom allows other things to add waypoints to it |
| 21:35.10 | Elmoe | ahh gotcha |
| 21:35.11 | foxlit | ^ There's a global object exposing some functions. |
| 21:36.27 | nevcairiel | or HandyNotes which allows things to register data sources |
| 21:36.40 | nevcairiel | which is actually something i have to change in the expansion launch because map shit changes, yo |
| 21:38.18 | Elmoe | I just wish we could have some sort of dev sandbox available at all times. fixing things during beta is actually not a big deal because you can create max level pre-mades and test everything out so easily |
| 21:38.22 | foxlit | I don't like the "blame it on the expansion" plan because I typically handle those by keeping compatibility with both game versions. |
| 21:38.34 | Elmoe | I always get hosed on live with some weird bug that relies on some spell or item I have no access to :/ |
| 21:38.39 | nevcairiel | the map changes are too extreme for me to do that |
| 21:38.48 | nevcairiel | it would be a nightmare |
| 21:39.07 | nevcairiel | not to mention that other then an overlap of like 3 days, the old version is suddenly utterly irrelevant |
| 21:39.13 | foxlit | I hold no opinion regarding your situation. |
| 21:40.05 | Elmoe | yeah putting a bunch of branches on game version seems like too much of a headache to me |
| 21:40.16 | Elmoe | curse should just fix the packager to actually work with game versions correctly |
| 21:40.31 | Elmoe | so we can distribute packages off different branches destined for specific game versions |
| 21:40.58 | foxlit | what was the last thing curse fixed? :) |
| 21:41.41 | Elmoe | foxlit: yeah not holding my breath heh |
| 21:43.18 | foxlit | (semi-serious: https://www.curseforge.com/news has nothing since March; maybe they fired CurseForg.) |
| 21:46.01 | nevcairiel | that is technically the user-facing site now, but yeah |
| 21:46.20 | nevcairiel | news on the dev site are from feburary :p |
| 21:46.28 | foxlit | it's the same feed. |
| 21:46.48 | nevcairiel | guess it is |
| 21:47.25 | nevcairiel | incidentally OPie is the featured addon on the dev site start page right now |
| 21:47.31 | nevcairiel | also, the dev site looks much nicer then the user site |
| 21:47.44 | foxlit | I think it's been that way since the launch |
| 21:49.25 | foxlit | (some part of me always thinks, "That's just because I'm logged in as me, right?") |
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| 22:03.58 | Elmoe | foxlit: looks like the curseforge twitter is more active |
| 22:04.23 | Elmoe | foxlit: mention of some announcement on 05/14 about combing game mods and extensions (assuming they mean twitch exts) |
| 22:04.34 | Elmoe | s/combing/combining/ |
| 22:05.04 | Elmoe | https://twitchdevoc.splashthat.com/ |
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| 22:08.27 | foxlit | Open the Game menu, then use any addon slash command to open the interface options frame, then hit escape to close the game menu. |
| 22:09.05 | foxlit | hitting the open-all-bags keybind then opens all bags but your backpack. |
| 22:09.40 | foxlit | the bag close buttons do not work. |
| 22:14.24 | foxlit | meh, just the interface options being screwy: if you open it from the game menu, it suppresses most keybindings; if you open it with InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory, it does weird things. |
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| 23:16.50 | ccox | Cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF6YKa8FscwGeNSBbrGAh0BMpNhFZDqzq |
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| 23:54.42 | Mr_Rabies | do you still not get exp if you die before the mob dies? |
