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| 16:34.20 | VIad | hope 8.0 adds better CPU support. I feel like they dont let it use more than like 30% CPU or some shit :/ but clearly FPS drops ingame |
| 16:37.44 | [TOM_RUS] | they render almost everything and also lua on one thread |
| 16:39.02 | [TOM_RUS] | dx12 still insta crashes on alpha client, so no way to check if it helps with performance |
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| 17:18.06 | VIad | they probably didnt actually use any of the dx12 features anyway :d |
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| 18:29.47 | Chipzz | VIad: I wouldn't hold my breath, at all. I doubt they even can put more things in separate threads |
| 18:30.08 | Chipzz | VIad: lua scripts certainly won't be moving off the main thread |
| 18:31.03 | VIad | they could optimize the CPU related issues, like actually make the game utilize more of the CPU instead of only using like 20% :p |
| 18:31.13 | Chipzz | you're not getting it |
| 18:31.17 | Chipzz | they CAN'T |
| 18:31.19 | VIad | amazing |
| 18:31.39 | VIad | obviously something eats something during dalaran or big raids, could try preload some, I dunno :p |
| 18:32.56 | Chipzz | TBH that should be abundantly clear if you had given it some thought before complaining |
| 18:33.23 | Chipzz | moving things in separate threads like for example lua scripts would break OnUpdate |
| 18:33.31 | Chipzz | that's just on top of my head |
| 18:35.46 | Chipzz | yes there may be small things left or right that they may be able to move. small being the operative word, not the huge performance gains you're expecting |
| 18:37.01 | Chipzz | also, I doubt that lua_State is thread-safe. what happens when you run 2 scripts from 2 threads on the same lua context? undefined behaviour most likely |
| 18:38.22 | Chipzz | bottom line: they choose a single-threaded architecture, and it appears to work just fine without addons. addons misbehaving is what tends to slow things |
| 18:38.25 | VIad | would hope they could hopefully put all the visual sluff on the GPU or something |
| 18:38.39 | Chipzz | "or something" :P |
| 18:38.49 | VIad | I just know other games manage it better :P |
| 18:39.01 | VIad | so it's probably not impossible |
| 18:39.20 | Chipzz | other games don't allow addons |
| 18:39.24 | Chipzz | apples, oranges |
| 18:40.02 | Chipzz | there's a reason Blizzard insist on disabling all addons every now and then |
| 18:40.24 | Chipzz | at first I thought it was stupid of them, but now I totally get the point, and I agree |
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| 18:46.26 | nevcairiel | they havent done that since like 3.0 though |
| 18:47.39 | nevcairiel | they reset the load out of date flag with a new expansion or something, but users are used to clicking that anyway |
| 18:49.53 | nevcairiel | they must hope for some gains from DX12, otherwise they wouldnt bother with it, who knows how much of the rendering can possibly be multithreaded with DX12, but of course the main game logic and addons remains on the main thread |
| 18:51.28 | nevcairiel | if they really tried very hard, they could probably move addons off of the main thread, but it would be a nightmare to get the interaction just right, and perhaps not even much faster due to having to sync the state |
| 18:53.10 | nevcairiel | ... and no huge gain for the base game anyway |
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| 19:42.11 | VIad | Chipzz: other games don't allow addons - you saying the fps issues are purely because of addons? :P |
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