| 00:22.31 | Mr_Rabies | hehehe sold my lost mail for 30k gold |
| 00:24.37 | Simca_ | nevcairiel: for me it only occurs in 15+ person raid settings |
| 00:24.53 | Simca_ | you need a lot of nearby sounds going on for it to happen |
| 00:35.39 | [TOM_RUS] | Simca_: most ppl raid 20+ man, so it always happens to them |
| 00:36.08 | Simca_ | yeah my raid is 16-18 people and all of us experience it |
| 00:36.18 | Simca_ | afaik there is no fix or way to avoid it |
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| 07:46.04 | Semlar | VIad: i'm going to need you to hard-code my gearscore as like 3k in the raider.io addon |
| 07:47.51 | Semlar | what i meant to say was, i'd like to become a contributor for the raider.io addon |
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| 10:40.07 | VIad | ok Semlar |
| 10:41.25 | Semlar | <3 |
| 10:51.53 | VIad | was thinking, to avoid changing the dropdown, to instead anchor another frame right below it and extend the options like that. would look like a separate frame most likely but if the style is the same, perhaps its one way to deal with the taint issues... wtb for 8.0 a better dropdown menu system that is less prone to breaking from taint complications |
| 10:52.32 | nevcairiel | if you use the dropdowns wisely, they dont really taint |
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| 13:46.16 | Varyak | So what's the current status with the sound issues? Still borked? |
| 13:47.20 | Funkeh` | the first rule of the sound problems is you don't talk of the sound problems |
| 13:48.02 | StephenLynx | kek |
| 13:50.01 | StephenLynx | god, pandaria is ridiculous. its like disney designed it. |
| 13:50.37 | StephenLynx | remember in tbc where you entered hellfire and walked on a road paved with the skeletons of the draenei? |
| 13:51.09 | StephenLynx | now quest npcs can't go 5 minutes without cracking some lame pg13 joke |
| 13:51.26 | StephenLynx | or without shoving some arrow int the knee-tier reference |
| 13:51.38 | nebula | oh please |
| 13:53.11 | Funkeh` | i'm not surely i'd class a pixelated road as 18+ |
| 13:53.22 | StephenLynx | the point is the tone. |
| 13:53.27 | nebula | the vast majority of wow is pg content |
| 13:54.04 | nebula | and you start pandaria off as gunner mowing down the other faction |
| 13:54.39 | StephenLynx | people die all the time in wow. that has zero impact. |
| 13:54.45 | StephenLynx | you can't compare that to genocide. |
| 13:55.09 | StephenLynx | and you kill soldiers, mind you. |
| 13:55.21 | StephenLynx | soldiers dying in a conflict is routine. |
| 13:55.51 | StephenLynx | i would also mention the awful segmented design of the zones but that's on cataclysm's account. |
| 13:56.24 | StephenLynx | i heard from a friend that wod gets even worse, did they got more serious on legion? |
| 13:56.31 | Funkeh` | i think genocide 24/7 would get boring after a while |
| 13:56.53 | nebula | worse with what? |
| 13:57.09 | StephenLynx | you are missing the point, I am not asking for hardcore edgyness all the time, just for something that doesn't look like a saturday mornin cartoon |
| 13:57.15 | nebula | rather, what do you mean segmented design |
| 13:57.21 | StephenLynx | the out of place humour in pandaria is cringy as shit |
| 13:57.42 | StephenLynx | nebula, zones are explicitly segmented for a few objectives. |
| 13:57.53 | StephenLynx | they don't seem like real areas. |
| 13:58.00 | Funkeh` | i get what you're saying, but the entire point of MoP is the sort of "zen" stuff of peace and tranquility |
| 13:58.02 | StephenLynx | these segments are really tiny. |
| 13:58.15 | StephenLynx | compare to how zones were designed up to wotlk |
| 13:58.24 | StephenLynx | and how they had a sense of scale. |
| 13:58.57 | Funkeh` | i don't think anything other than icecrown really had that |
| 13:59.03 | StephenLynx | every zone had that. |
| 13:59.08 | Funkeh` | maybe some of the titan stuff because titans |
| 13:59.15 | StephenLynx | for example |
| 13:59.45 | StephenLynx | do you remember the ally camp on howling fjord near the initial horde camp? |
| 13:59.52 | StephenLynx | how you went all the way to the back |
| 13:59.59 | StephenLynx | to kill some npcs |
| 14:00.12 | StephenLynx | or the plains to the south |
| 14:00.17 | StephenLynx | where that giant roamed |
| 14:00.35 | StephenLynx | or the burning forest |
| 14:00.52 | StephenLynx | each section of the zones were much larger, you couldn't render everything in them standing at the middle |
| 14:01.16 | Funkeh` | yeah because you didn't have the same render distance back then |
| 14:01.25 | StephenLynx | log in, go back to these areas. |
| 14:01.28 | StephenLynx | and compare them. |
| 14:01.49 | StephenLynx | in average, pos-cata segments are half of what they used to be. |
| 14:02.33 | StephenLynx | everything became so much cramped |
| 14:02.43 | StephenLynx | and the design of the game obvious |
| 14:02.48 | StephenLynx | it really broke immersion |
| 14:02.55 | nebula | if you say so |
| 14:03.29 | Funkeh` | pretty sure they specifically spoke of changes in legion allowing you to render more of the zone itself |
| 14:03.44 | StephenLynx | you are missing the point. |
| 14:04.00 | StephenLynx | they wouldn't render because they were much bigger |
| 14:04.10 | StephenLynx | ill screenshot it tonight and show you |
| 14:04.13 | Funkeh` | okay, you wanna feel like the zones are huge and legion doesn't make you feel that way |
| 14:04.20 | StephenLynx | is not legion |
| 14:04.27 | StephenLynx | is anything starting with catra |
| 14:04.38 | StephenLynx | its the direction the design went |
| 14:05.02 | StephenLynx | and how it helped to reduce immersion |
| 14:05.45 | StephenLynx | and don't tell me it doesn't matter because subs started to drop in that very same expansion |
| 14:05.52 | nebula | oh please. |
| 14:05.55 | StephenLynx | up to wotlk they were on the rise |
| 14:06.07 | Funkeh` | that's a bit of a stretch |
| 14:06.22 | Funkeh` | levelling is a small part of wow imo |
| 14:06.39 | StephenLynx | and thats why blizzard just completely ravamped it, right? |
| 14:06.42 | StephenLynx | because its irrelevant |
| 14:06.55 | Funkeh` | did I say that? |
| 14:07.01 | nebula | that doesn't change the fact it's the smallest time investment you make in the game |
| 14:07.05 | StephenLynx | leveling is what hooks you in the world. |
| 14:07.16 | StephenLynx | is what makes it feel like everything else matters. |
| 14:07.31 | StephenLynx | even if the time spent on it is small if compared to max lvl content. |
| 14:07.35 | VIad | nevcairiel: adding a button on the dropdown that appears on player right-clicks (unitframe) I've only had pain with that :( |
| 14:07.56 | StephenLynx | if you don't feel invested in the world, why bother with the pixels and numbers from end-game loot? |
| 14:08.44 | StephenLynx | and again, it was on the expansion that killed off the sense of scale in the world that started the sub decline. |
| 14:09.01 | Funkeh` | you seem to be projecting your experiences a bit |
| 14:09.39 | StephenLynx | yes, I am. but I do have some data to back it up, even if I don't have the evidence, like getting the opinion of several people that quit wow starting from cata. |
| 14:09.52 | nebula | sub numbers were always a shitty benchmark because the huge shifts were mostly china |
| 14:10.00 | nebula | na and eu numbers have been pretty consisent |
| 14:10.30 | nebula | and saying the changes were due to some specific thing is just confirmation bias |
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| 14:14.52 | StephenLynx | im also salty I lost disengage and both the melee and ranged slows |
| 14:14.56 | StephenLynx | that made for some sick moves |
| 14:15.15 | StephenLynx | specially disengage was useful in pve |
| 14:15.33 | nebula | play something other than mm |
| 14:15.46 | StephenLynx | no >:3 |
| 14:16.04 | StephenLynx | oh wait |
| 14:17.11 | nebula | wait, bm and mm get disengage at the same level |
| 14:17.15 | StephenLynx | in general I don't like being locked out of 2/3 of your spells |
| 14:17.21 | nebula | and survival can talent it, sooo |
| 14:17.30 | StephenLynx | yeah, im looking into that, I think I missed it in the talents |
| 14:17.33 | StephenLynx | and picked something else |
| 14:17.43 | StephenLynx | didn't spend too much time looking at talents |
| 14:19.14 | StephenLynx | holy shit, where the fuck is disengage? I looked twice at my spells |
| 14:19.17 | StephenLynx | and couldn't find it |
| 14:19.31 | Funkeh` | abilities not on your bars should have a glow |
| 14:19.51 | StephenLynx | i know, I looked that |
| 14:34.53 | StephenLynx | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/62otnp/one_of_my_hunters_doesnt_have_disengage_i_even/ |
| 14:34.58 | StephenLynx | this might be my issue |
| 14:47.36 | nebula | that would be annoying |
| 14:53.10 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: just check viad's patreon for that custom gearscore tier |
| 14:53.52 | VIad | don't give me ideas |
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| 23:22.03 | StephenLynx | turns out my issue was that I had both concussive shot and disengage tucked in on a hidden bar and I didn't notice :| |
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