| 00:00.34 | Simca | i'm not expecting too much for our level of dedication from this panel but it could surprise me |
| 00:02.11 | Gnarfoz | well, at least it has evolved to a panel |
| 00:12.39 | foxlit | fun fact: the demo questing is done with level 110 chars wearing ilevel ~180 uncommon gear with what seems to be the Legion ability/talent set |
| 00:13.10 | nevcairiel | some people are speculating there is some sort of huge squish |
| 00:13.19 | nevcairiel | including ilvl this time |
| 00:14.41 | foxlit | maybe something theyâre thinking about, but everything about the chars seems like placeholders at this point. |
| 00:15.40 | nevcairiel | the build is probably tailored to those demo experiences and doesnt pull in much of the other changes |
| 00:17.10 | bluspacecow | we'll see when beta goes live |
| 00:17.28 | nevcairiel | you mean like in half a year? =p |
| 00:17.33 | bluspacecow | yeah |
| 00:18.25 | Gnarfoz | nah, december! raid testing in january! keep up that pace :p |
| 00:18.39 | nevcairiel | there is still 7.3.5 to test |
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| 00:56.40 | Justwait | yea all previous expansions they had class changes ready in the build |
| 00:56.54 | Justwait | that there seemingly isn't any this time only shows this expansion is still far away tbh. |
| 01:00.37 | znf | oh, I forgot there was a codecraft |
| 01:00.40 | znf | anything interesting there? |
| 01:01.21 | Gnarfoz | well, nothing "new" but still interesting |
| 01:01.29 | znf | did it end? |
| 01:01.39 | znf | I wasn't paying attention |
| 01:01.56 | Gnarfoz | yep just ended |
| 01:02.07 | Gnarfoz | part2 tomorrow |
| 01:02.16 | znf | what was the discussion about? tl;dr |
| 01:02.42 | Gnarfoz | was q&a style so tl;dr isn't really possible |
| 01:02.54 | znf | oh, okay-ish |
| 01:03.03 | znf | will have to wait for the vod I guess |
| 01:03.42 | znf | nevermind, mmo-c got me covered |
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| 03:18.29 | bluspacecow | http://wowplayerdiorama.com/character |
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| 03:24.55 | Thunder_Child | Not the best use of funds I can think of. |
| 03:25.01 | Thunder_Child | Not the worst either. |
| 03:34.14 | znf | have you found Torhal there, bluspacecow ? |
| 03:34.30 | znf | Fisker is probably there |
| 03:37.16 | bluspacecow | i dunno his toon name and realm name |
| 03:37.22 | bluspacecow | also sitting at home in NZ |
| 03:37.29 | bluspacecow | but its easy |
| 03:37.38 | bluspacecow | 1) find bar |
| 03:37.49 | bluspacecow | 2) listen for smashing bottles |
| 03:37.55 | bluspacecow | 3) look for drunk jesus |
| 03:37.57 | bluspacecow | 4) ???? |
| 03:38.00 | bluspacecow | 5) PROFIT! |
| 03:38.13 | Thunder_Child | drunk Merlin* |
| 03:38.22 | bluspacecow | oh yes drunk merlin sorry |
| 03:46.47 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/news=275398/class-raid-buff-abilities-returning-in-battle-for-azeroth |
| 03:46.48 | znf | noooooooooo |
| 03:46.49 | znf | why? :-| |
| 04:40.19 | bluspacecow | i need someone who is not having an issue with the blizzcon VoD |
| 04:40.20 | bluspacecow | to run |
| 04:40.28 | bluspacecow | nslookup blizzcon2017vod.akamaized.net |
| 04:40.32 | bluspacecow | and report what they get |
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| 09:12.48 | mikma | so how much are we gonna going to have to play montly to play the classic wow? |
| 09:13.32 | AcidWeb | 30 pieces of silver |
| 09:13.50 | mikma | that's much mor then threefiddy |
| 09:18.49 | nevcairiel | in classic prices, thats also quite expensive =p |
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| 09:31.41 | ls- | I really hope they won't make stuff transferable from vanilla to live |
| 09:32.20 | ls- | otherwise corrupted ashbringer may end up being one of the most common tmogs >_> |
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| 09:55.44 | karl_w_w | rnarrator |
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| 10:46.13 | nevcairiel | ls-: with artifacts there is so many ashbringers now |
| 10:50.04 | ls- | I meant og naxx ashbringer |
| 10:53.21 | ls- | damn, chat on TM EU is filled w/ vanilla cancer now T_T |
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| 11:00.17 | modernis_ | your first mistake is being signed in to those chat channels |
| 11:00.38 | ls- | [18:00:07] [2] [Esketit]: cant wait to get to 60 on vanilla server buy wow token to get 300k |
| 11:00.41 | ls- | LMAO :D |
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| 11:02.14 | AcidWeb | I give legacy servers a month, maybe two of popularity. |
| 11:02.35 | AcidWeb | After that they will be filled with masochists. |
| 11:02.51 | modernis_ | they'll settle into a groove |
| 11:03.31 | modernis_ | also levelling to 60 in vanilla circumstances honestly isnt as long or bad as you remember |
| 11:05.00 | AcidWeb | I never said that is connected with leveling. |
| 11:05.55 | modernis_ | this is true |
| 11:06.09 | modernis_ | i quite enjoyed the endgame too though |
| 11:06.40 | modernis_ | i am interested to see what they change, if anything, with the original pvp system considering it was just straight up broken and majorly exploited in private scenes |
| 11:07.29 | AcidWeb | You enjoyed it X years ago. |
| 11:07.53 | modernis_ | i enjoyed it 1 year ago but im not sure how much i can talk about that on here without fear of the banhammer |
| 11:08.19 | modernis_ | so ill roll that back up |
| 11:08.32 | AcidWeb | Many, many people just standing in the line to get their nostalgia glasses smashed. |
| 11:08.43 | AcidWeb | I personally think that is just one big waste of resources. |
| 11:13.02 | ls- | I don't think they ban here for talking about vanilla and PS |
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| 11:18.30 | modernis_ | i suppose it has been given a certain validity now in any case |
| 11:18.55 | nevcairiel | talking about ToS violating is still not wanted, and private servers are that in any case |
| 11:19.19 | modernis_ | fair |
| 11:21.34 | ls- | given that we discuss API protection circumvention, hacking and other things quite regularly here, that's hard to believe that it's not wanted :D |
| 11:22.10 | nevcairiel | we usually just discuss how its bad, not how we liked doing it a couple months ago =p |
| 11:22.59 | ls- | :D |
| 11:23.49 | modernist | this raises the question i was interested to come here to see whether had been discussed |
| 11:24.16 | modernist | i assume that they will retroactively add secure features to vanilla API retroactively |
| 11:24.22 | modernist | hm i said that word twice |
| 11:24.32 | modernist | anyway, thats... gotta be a buttload of work right |
| 11:25.19 | nevcairiel | i think its in the realm of possibility that they'll just use the retail client for that, instead of trying to fix some old classic client |
| 11:25.35 | nevcairiel | one could then discuss which era of classic one even wants, because the game changed drastically from launch to 1.12 |
| 11:26.19 | modernist | for sure, which often leads to this no-mans land of information between the 1.12 client and the information before it in the "scene" |
| 11:26.58 | modernist | this immediately makes me think a very large quotient of the people asking for vanilla will be upset at the method of its delivery though |
| 11:27.58 | nevcairiel | its impossible to make everyone happy, anyway |
| 11:28.04 | modernist | everything from wall walking to the backdoor for horde in alterac valley will be nitpicked |
| 11:28.14 | modernist | it is |
| 11:28.45 | nevcairiel | original vanilla was extremely buggy still, and i'm sure plenty people like to abuse those bugs for something, but you don't really want those to remain in the game |
| 11:28.58 | modernist | some of those bugs, some might call character |
| 11:29.31 | modernist | how do you distinguish between those and "quality of life" improvements |
| 11:29.53 | modernist | im just playing devils advocate here by the way |
| 11:30.59 | modernist | i find it very interesting, i suppose i dont envy the people who's task it is to tackle this stuff |
| 11:31.48 | modernist | and i foresee waves of backlash and "lol who cares" rippling off've it in equal measure |
| 11:32.31 | nevcairiel | which is why we didnt really expect them to ever do it, there is no easy and good answers |
| 11:32.38 | modernist | yeah |
| 11:32.44 | modernist | good luck to 'em |
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| 11:55.25 | Andols | I guess TheDanW can clarify a bit when he gets back to work. |
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| 14:50.30 | Gnarfoz | http://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-how-blizzard-plans-to-finally-bring-back-vanilla-wow-servers/ |
| 14:51.39 | Gnarfoz | tl;dr: using modern infrastructure -- that's basically the only bit of useful information in there besides "yes, we're doing it" |
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| 15:07.44 | znf | so what's "Overwatch - Archives" supposed to be? |
| 15:08.03 | znf | there's not many interesting things today |
| 15:08.09 | znf | Q&A basically |
| 15:11.52 | Gnarfoz | znf: jeff said in the interview with michele and alex that for example they're going to show old concept stuff that didn't make the cut |
| 15:12.11 | Gnarfoz | (sadly, it's at the same time as engineering thing, so I'll watch that later0 |
| 15:12.42 | znf | cool |
| 15:12.52 | znf | The Instance Live! |
| 15:13.00 | znf | I'm assuming this is some stupid community show? |
| 15:13.16 | znf | some podcast-like crap? |
| 15:13.28 | znf | ah yes |
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| 17:58.19 | Gnarfoz | it's Sapu on stream \o/ |
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| 18:22.23 | Andols | Who? |
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| 18:33.21 | Aftermathh | Hi everyone! |
| 18:34.00 | Aftermathh | Who's excited for the vanilla servers? :D |
| 18:35.34 | Gnarfoz | Andols: Sapu, TSM author, who is also in this channel |
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| 18:47.38 | Andols | I see |
| 18:47.44 | Andols | What question did he ask? :) |
| 18:48.27 | Andols | oo nice, the world of warcraft editor :D |
| 19:06.02 | Gnarfoz | one they basically non-answered, about the bnet web api^^ |
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| 19:21.48 | Andols | Ellek plushie hunt is on! |
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