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| 00:30.38 | znf | I was looking at sales tax in US |
| 00:30.39 | znf | geez |
| 00:30.44 | znf | what a fucking clusterfuck |
| 00:30.53 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 00:30.56 | schlumpf | -sales tax in |
| 00:31.56 | znf | in most EU countries is rather simple |
| 00:32.23 | znf | It's just VAT and in some countries it's per category |
| 00:32.40 | znf | ie: we have 9% for Food and Hotels, 19% for everything else |
| 00:32.54 | znf | I was looking at: http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/2389/sales-tax |
| 00:33.24 | znf | And it's so weird... 4.5% in NYC, but 4% otherwise in NY |
| 00:33.35 | znf | but not on clothes/shoes that cost under 110 |
| 00:33.36 | znf | ?! |
| 00:33.58 | znf | ...but no taxes on specific categories of items |
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| 00:34.12 | zenzelezz | Europe might be better, but that didn't stop companies from trying to seel everything through Luxembourg or Ireland |
| 00:34.23 | zenzelezz | *sell |
| 00:34.37 | znf | Sure, but we fixed that |
| 00:35.01 | znf | also, even weirder when some states have no sales tax |
| 00:35.26 | zenzelezz | we used to get cheaper electronically purchased games in Norway, but then Steam (and the rest) decided it was best to follow our laws too |
| 00:36.20 | znf | it's so weird that US shows prices without taxes |
| 00:36.36 | znf | like, you expect to pay something, then go at the register, pay up more |
| 00:37.33 | znf | How does it make sense for New Hampshire to have nos sales tax... except on prepared food? |
| 00:38.03 | zenzelezz | in Norway, we tax most products bought from elsewhere; but not books |
| 00:38.09 | zenzelezz | because ??? |
| 00:38.43 | znf | but you're not in the EU :P |
| 00:38.59 | znf | we get taxed for imports out of the EU, for example |
| 00:39.01 | zenzelezz | we might as well be. We're better at adhering to EU laws than some members |
| 00:39.04 | znf | ie: china, US |
| 00:39.17 | znf | but not for stuff under 10eur or so |
| 00:39.48 | znf | everything between 10 and 40eur, we have to pay VAT, after 40eur value we have to also pay duty fees |
| 00:40.33 | znf | ofc, you can just edit the invoice and put 40eur value, or 10eur value and nobody would care |
| 01:00.48 | zenzelezz | I remember Dealextreme did (does?) allow you to select whether or not they should mark the shipment as "gift" |
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| 01:15.47 | znf | zenzelezz: that doesn't matter |
| 01:15.52 | znf | customs still ask you for an invoice |
| 01:15.57 | znf | regardless of the value on the package |
| 01:16.03 | znf | or if it says gift or not |
| 01:17.11 | zenzelezz | not here; here's it's... not sure, maybe not 59/50 anymore, but fairly often they would let it pass |
| 01:40.26 | Thunder_Child | By and large, people only purchase things within their own state, so for individuals it's a non-issue. |
| 01:52.38 | znf | >but notable dataminer Marlamin has confirmed KayRuleâs discovery to be legitimate. So what exactly did they find? |
| 01:52.51 | znf | everyone cheer for Arlam |
| 01:52.54 | znf | wait, where's Arlam? |
| 02:09.41 | Torhal | You do realize it's actually Alram, right znf? |
| 02:09.59 | znf | nope, I'm drunk as fuck |
| 02:10.02 | Torhal | k |
| 02:10.03 | znf | Alram!!! |
| 02:12.37 | Alram | I'm sleeping |
| 02:12.40 | Alram | Leave me alone |
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| 02:48.15 | Ssateneth | can anyone recommend a -good- file undelete program that preserves folder structure thats also -free-? |
| 02:48.54 | Ssateneth | i accidentally quick formatted my USB stick that had lots of important things on it with RUFUS, a program to set up USB sticks to make them bootable for OS installs |
| 02:51.21 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 03:05.26 | Thunder_Child | On windows recuva seems to be the best free one. No idea if it preserves folder structures. |
| 03:05.59 | Thunder_Child | And by best I mean good and easy to use. |
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| 04:43.47 | VIad | druid travel form, miss the old one, or a way to specify like the actual form, since the spell is dynamic :( |
| 04:44.01 | VIad | form:# checks wont work since you can be either on the ground or the air versions :( |
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| 06:37.21 | Mr_Rabies | not sure what you're trying to do but there's a book that grants you stag form, VIad |
| 06:37.49 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowhead.com/item=136789/tome-of-the-wilds-stag-form |
| 06:53.33 | VIad | "Travel Form" is a hybrid spell, can be both ground and flying, and the macros can't specify like "sub form" :p |
| 06:54.25 | VIad | can't cast a specific type of travel form, like if I really wanna make sure it casts the right thing |
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| 07:35.03 | Cairenn1 | @ccox - I wonder how Mary Ann actually feels? ROFL! |
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| 14:54.00 | Andols | Have they said any date the new raid releases? |
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| 15:57.28 | nevcairiel | Andols: no, just that it won't launch right away with 7.3.2 |
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| 18:57.59 | Andols | Ok, it feels strange tho. If blizzard is going to announce a new expantion during blizzcon before this raid is released. |
| 18:59.00 | Andols | It's like We have the final episode of this season left to release. But HERE is a trailer and basic synopsis for the next season! |
| 19:01.09 | AcidWeb | They cant release raid before blizzcon. |
| 19:01.19 | AcidWeb | Because crazy raiders will be forced to say home. |
| 19:01.39 | Alram | Yeah raid will be after blizzcon no doubt |
| 19:01.47 | Alram | 7.3.2 might be before still |
| 19:02.00 | Alram | Seeing they already posted notes, might be Tuesday |
| 19:02.13 | Alram | Full time blizzcon prep starts Friday |
| 19:02.31 | Funkeh` | who said there will be an expansion announcement? |
| 19:03.46 | Alram | Nobody literally said that but ion teased a bunch and they messed up by changing beta ngdp versions to 8.0 for like 20 min |
| 19:03.53 | Alram | So it's all but confirmed |
| 19:04.15 | Maldivia | 8.9 with build number etc... But no files :( |
| 19:04.21 | Maldivia | 8.0* |
| 19:04.33 | Alram | Yes, still 8.0 regardless |
| 19:05.13 | foxlit | aw, there goes my bet on 10.0 being the next version. |
| 19:05.25 | Alram | dangit! |
| 19:05.51 | Alram | though it would have been pretty monumentally bad if they shipped files Maldivia |
| 19:05.53 | Maldivia | Well, remains to be seen if they skip 9.x like Windows did |
| 19:06.13 | Maldivia | Alram: no, it would have been very good :) |
| 19:06.37 | Maldivia | ... assuming they have hostname and trademarks etc in plave |
| 19:06.59 | Alram | shipping a build before announcement would have been pretty bad |
| 19:07.02 | znf | uhm - https://i.imgur.com/Hkzl20Q.png |
| 19:07.42 | foxlit | kill it with fire before they crossbreed into Blizzard.app, znf. |
| 19:08.09 | foxlit | s/./ Battle./ |
| 19:08.37 | Funkeh` | Blizzard Battle.net.app |
| 19:09.22 | Funkeh` | Blizzard app Battle.net Ultimate Edition |
| 19:17.48 | Maldivia | So right now it's just Starter Edition? |
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| 19:52.01 | Fisker | foxlit obviously |
| 19:52.17 | Fisker | But next expansion will only have one major patch |
| 19:52.24 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
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| 20:57.02 | VIad | I see you got the collectors edition, znf |
| 20:57.13 | VIad | includes both the original and HD remake |
| 20:57.45 | znf | of? |
| 20:57.46 | znf | ah |
| 20:57.47 | znf | :)) |
| 21:01.49 | VIad | ;) |
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