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| 10:59.48 | jleclanche | okay seriously, how is it that the garrison hearthstone disconnects me like 75% of the time i use it :| |
| 11:00.14 | nevcairiel | garrisons are not a place you are meant to go anymore, the game is telling you |
| 11:24.21 | Fisker | what are garrisons? |
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| 14:02.08 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: I'm in your boat. Bought a new phone, and now have to wait several weeks to get it. |
| 14:02.54 | Thunder_Child | Oh, make that a month. |
| 14:05.25 | Fisker | Rip |
| 14:05.32 | Fisker | Hopefully not an iPhone ecks |
| 14:05.41 | Thunder_Child | No, Pixel 2 XL. |
| 14:13.24 | Fisker | Good good |
| 14:13.49 | Fisker | If you're US you could've been fast though |
| 14:17.20 | Thunder_Child | It's not shipping, it's the fact that it has not been released yet. |
| 14:18.21 | Thunder_Child | But my current phone's battery life is wrist slashingly poor. |
| 14:19.26 | Thunder_Child | So the wait is interminable. |
| 14:24.53 | Fisker | I'm just saying Thunder_Child the first people had estimated delivery in 1½ week |
| 14:25.13 | Fisker | Unlike us who are fucked and started at mid November |
| 14:25.23 | Fisker | Us being EU |
| 14:25.32 | Fisker | That isn't even confusing a little bit |
| 14:41.15 | Thunder_Child | No, not at all. |
| 14:42.33 | Thunder_Child | Well my delivery estimate is Nov. 2-6, with a ship date of Oct. 30. |
| 14:51.53 | Fisker | Nice |
| 14:52.10 | Fisker | November 14th here or so |
| 15:01.55 | Thunder_Child | Does that mean you are getting one, or are you just oddly aware of the ship date? |
| 15:04.17 | Fisker | It means I'm getting one |
| 15:05.30 | Thunder_Child | Nice. |
| 15:19.53 | Fisker | Yeah |
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| 16:36.14 | znf | https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/155049099354177539/366717566175150080/image.jpg?width=333&height=592 |
| 16:36.15 | znf | oh my god |
| 16:37.58 | ls- | lol |
| 16:42.36 | Maldivia | is that a snapchat filter on wow? |
| 16:47.09 | ls- | yeah :D |
| 16:49.49 | znf | yes Maldivia |
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| 16:59.31 | TheDanW | Mr_Rabies, zenzelezz: that's working as expected, UI texture loads are async now - previously your client would have blocked/locked up while loading those |
| 17:00.19 | TheDanW | pre-7.3 you'd only see the "checkerboard" load in if you were streaming the textures from network |
| 17:00.51 | TheDanW | now it's also from disk, which means it'll occur basically every time you start the game |
| 17:04.11 | zenzelezz | TheDanW: ... or so you would have us believe! ;) |
| 17:33.43 | ls- | oh, wow, these threads started popping up https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759188466#post-1 |
| 17:33.49 | ls- | took longer than I expected |
| 17:34.58 | AcidWeb | "Help. WoW is dead because I can't break TOS anymore. |
| 17:36.12 | ls- | well, there's this https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759278199?page=1, thanks to chaud_ :p |
| 17:36.47 | ls- | your typical "WoW is dead because MMOC survey said so" |
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| 17:46.03 | spaten | if people really think that the only thing you can do with a model changer is changing you own model they are naiv |
| 17:52.50 | nebula | probably just deliberately obtuse |
| 17:55.04 | ls- | yeah, think so too... |
| 17:56.00 | ls- | awwww~, we dindu nuffin, we're good and fluffy |
| 17:59.21 | ls- | lol, "We are not going to bash people who use mods to edit in sexy versions of their toons <...> and for people in long distance relationships might serve a purpose. So don't be mean." |
| 18:00.03 | ls- | I... I'm crying :D |
| 18:00.32 | nebula | nothing wrong with a little wow sexy time |
| 18:02.45 | ls- | too low poly for my liking, sorry... |
| 18:02.52 | zenzelezz | I remember way back when there was that... incident... where some guild was doing model hacking or something to bypass most of AQ |
| 18:03.05 | zenzelezz | didn't go so well |
| 18:04.31 | spaten | "i dont want to look for chest/hidden thing/something just let me increase the model" |
| 18:04.51 | spaten | "just let me increase the size of my enemys that i see them better" |
| 18:05.54 | nebula | i remember back in the quake days people would use models that added giant xyz axis spikes to player models, heh |
| 18:05.55 | ls- | "This topic has been deleted." |
| 18:13.40 | chaud_ | Yeah, I don't know why people think that is somehow the number of subs |
| 18:13.46 | chaud_ | It would be an awful measure |
| 18:15.11 | ls- | because you never state otherwise :p |
| 18:15.46 | nebula | i mean, he was just qualifying his data source |
| 18:15.55 | ls- | even in that very thread on MMOC people argue that 1.8kk is a number of subs |
| 18:16.25 | foxlit | someone is wrong on the internet? call the press. |
| 18:16.28 | nebula | can't stop people from being stupid, especially if they have an agenda |
| 18:17.44 | ls- | well, true... |
| 18:23.10 | ls- | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/602 basically me >_> I don't want to try M KJ anymore -_- |
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| 20:33.18 | VIad | a bit out of the blue q, but how many bits do we have in wow lua on a 32-bit client? integer/float bits |
| 20:33.28 | VIad | 2^52 for 64 bit isnt it? |
| 20:40.10 | zenzelezz | you know this begs the question, why? |
| 20:43.39 | VIad | merging several table values into just one integer as its all integers |
| 20:43.54 | VIad | save space by replacing tables with just integers and bitwise the data out of there |
| 20:44.23 | zenzelezz | how little RAM does your computer have? o_O |
| 20:44.51 | VIad | it's a huge table and it contains a ton of tables :p |
| 20:46.34 | zenzelezz | how huge is huge? What's a rough idea of the total count if you don't pack them? |
| 20:47.14 | VIad | it's like 150k sub-tables with max 5 integer fields, each field max like 4000 integer |
| 20:47.46 | VIad | compacting those integers into one int and bitwise when accessing will be nicer on storage and maybe even memory, 150k less tables :p |
| 20:48.27 | zenzelezz | is that 4000 integers, or integers of value 0-4000? |
| 20:49.11 | VIad | 0-4000 |
| 20:49.26 | VIad | actually first one is just a 0-7 in the form of bitfield |
| 20:51.20 | zenzelezz | you're not talking much more than about 3 MB there, assuming 4-byte integers; not counting whatever overhead there may be for each table. But don't get me wrong, this is the sort of thing I do just for fun |
| 20:53.52 | VIad | I'm just afraid if the 32-bit client will overflow :d |
| 20:54.09 | zenzelezz | if you could make do with 0-4095, then you'd need 12 bits per value; you could still only pack two of those in one |
| 20:54.29 | zenzelezz | unless you'd be okay with splitting values over multiple separate integers |
| 20:54.55 | zenzelezz | and again, assuming 4-byte integers (since you say 32-bit) |
| 21:01.58 | nevcairiel | the bit library only seems to accept 32-bit values indeed |
| 21:02.11 | nevcairiel | even if a double could hold a few more |
| 21:03.12 | VIad | I know the 32-bit client is getting deprecated soon right? at that point could work with the 64-bit library, and get more data in one integer |
| 21:03.52 | Thunder_Child | You might have died of old age by then, but sure, "soon". |
| 21:03.56 | nevcairiel | those two things are entirely unrelated |
| 21:05.05 | VIad | thought that 32-bit client supported smaller integers |
| 21:05.33 | foxlit | you'd save a lot of time if you just assumed you're wrong about everything, viad. |
| 21:05.37 | nevcairiel | a) you can use 64-bit integers on 32-bit systems just fine, its a bit slower, but it works. b) Lua 5.1 only uses doubles, not integers, so even if someone were to make the bitlib 64-bit, it would still only hold up to 52 bits of precision, and I doubt anyone would ever bother |
| 21:05.48 | VIad | oki doki |
| 21:06.31 | zenzelezz | to jump back a bit perhaps; what are these tables/integers actually representing? |
| 21:06.49 | VIad | m+ score data |
| 21:07.04 | nevcairiel | if you want to store alot of information without tables, just generate a key and store all the data in strings |
| 21:07.09 | VIad | a total, last season, and per role, and a bitfield for what roles there are |
| 21:07.36 | VIad | splitting strings probably saves more memory than table references I guess |
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| 22:23.15 | pnorman | This feels like premature optimization. |
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