| 00:23.34 | Thunder_Child | It seems the bnet app has some serious issues starting up though a vpn connection. |
| 00:23.47 | Thunder_Child | It launches an older version. |
| 00:24.41 | Ammako | What happens if you get rid of the older versions on your disk to force the newer version |
| 00:27.22 | Thunder_Child | That was interesting. I had 2 shortcuts pinned to the same location...not even sure how that is possible. |
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| 12:36.21 | Gnarfoz | been to Goldshire lately? https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb7b9q/world-of-warcraft-has-a-rape-problem |
| 12:36.22 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 12:36.41 | AcidWeb | lol |
| 12:40.16 | nebula | should have rolled horde |
| 12:40.47 | nebula | ain't none of that shit going down at razor hill |
| 12:43.51 | nevcairiel | i'm sure you have your own spot |
| 12:44.31 | nevcairiel | actually apparently the horde goes there as well |
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| 13:30.29 | Thunder_Child | Wouldn't the chat filter at least take care of the swear words? |
| 13:32.59 | Gnarfoz | it would, yes |
| 13:34.47 | Thunder_Child | So either the article is somewhat inaccurate, or they fail to mention turning off the filter. |
| 13:35.20 | Thunder_Child | Silly sensationalism. |
| 13:37.52 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure German users (since the article was originally in German) are creative at getting around Blizzard's probably incomplete filter list |
| 13:59.52 | Mr_Rabies | it's motherboard |
| 14:00.28 | Mr_Rabies | vice as a whole is just yellow journalism nowadays, but motherboard doubly so |
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| 15:27.05 | Gnarfoz | so foxlit, care to do some detective work Blizzard should be doing? :^D |
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| 15:30.03 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/NnoggaDK/status/912539832542523392 supposedly Lua only https://twitter.com/Methodsco/status/912676351492202497 |
| 15:30.21 | Gnarfoz | (or, of course, TheDanW, if you have time to look at it or forward it ^) |
| 15:33.34 | Semlar | why is it possible for websites to disable the fullscreen button for embedded youtube videos |
| 15:33.52 | Gnarfoz | it's possible for youtube to do so |
| 15:33.57 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. it's the other way around) |
| 15:34.16 | Semlar | it's not the other way around, the website that's embedding the player is setting it to not have fullscreen available |
| 15:34.42 | Semlar | it's one of the player options when you go to embed a video |
| 15:36.03 | Semlar | i think you might also be able to turn it off in your channel settings |
| 15:36.18 | Semlar | either way, it shouldn't be possible |
| 15:37.02 | Gnarfoz | it's an option of the youtube player, that's what I meant |
| 15:37.32 | Gnarfoz | in the video's options you can just disable embedding entirely |
| 15:37.39 | Gnarfoz | (or rather, enable) |
| 15:45.16 | Andols | More Russians using Lua unlockers https://youtu.be/PTwzCtq3ye4?t=28 |
| 15:45.17 | Semlar | all this looks like to me is that they unlocked lua in their client with a hack |
| 15:45.51 | Gnarfoz | Andols:Â that's what I linked above, and what Stanzilla said (in the tweet replies) is Lua-only |
| 15:46.04 | Andols | Oh did not read what you were talking about :p |
| 15:46.09 | Gnarfoz | (well, not his claim, he just repeated the claim made by someone else) |
| 15:46.14 | Semlar | how does stanzilla know how they did this |
| 15:46.32 | Ammako | conspiracy |
| 15:47.09 | Thunder_Child | Obviously because Stanzilla showed them. |
| 15:47.15 | Gnarfoz | dun dun dunnnnnnnnn |
| 15:47.24 | Semlar | you can tell by the fact that this is a russian gameplay video that everyone involved is hacking |
| 15:47.33 | schlumpf | RACISM! |
| 15:47.43 | Semlar | where's tom_rus, he'll back me up on this |
| 15:47.54 | schlumpf | He's probably busy angry-tweeting designers. |
| 15:48.34 | Gnarfoz | angry about lack of flying hack |
| 16:10.14 | Sapu | This is driving me a bit crazy. Is there really no way to change the highlight color of an EditBox? I see that you can specify it in XML (i.e. https://pastebin.com/ZyYuUFwu), but looking for a way to change it at runtime. |
| 16:11.34 | Semlar | i didn't even know you could change the highlight color |
| 16:12.36 | Semlar | although to be fair, at some point i stopped trying to ever highlight text in an editbox because it never did what i wanted it to |
| 16:13.05 | Sapu | Seems weird that you can just specify it once when you create the EditBox (and only if you use XML) since you can change any other attribute at runtime / specify it in lua. |
| 16:14.39 | Semlar | there isn't always a lua equivalent for setting attributes that are available in xml |
| 16:16.17 | Semlar | i only know of 2 or 3 examples though |
| 16:16.36 | Sapu | The number of times you have to use xml is pretty small, hence my surprise to find another. |
| 16:18.54 | Sapu | What are the examples you had in mind? Can't remember any off the top of my head. |
| 16:19.25 | Semlar | there's one that lets a child frame ignore the alpha of its parent |
| 16:20.35 | Semlar | and possibly something that involves masks or clipping that i don't recall off the top of my head |
| 16:21.21 | Sapu | those both have setters/getters in lua (saw them this morning while looking through all the methods on editbox's heh) |
| 16:22.29 | Semlar | what method tells it to ignore the alpha |
| 16:22.59 | Sapu | SetIgnoreParentAlpha |
| 16:23.55 | Semlar | i'm going to assume they added that some time after i stopped playing |
| 16:25.34 | Sapu | one thing you can't do in lua is templates of course, but that can generally be solved by adding extra code to emulate them |
| 16:25.59 | Semlar | xml templates are probably more efficient |
| 16:26.12 | Bluspacecow | *eats XML templates* |
| 16:26.18 | Bluspacecow | how efficient are they now ? |
| 16:26.27 | Semlar | less efficient |
| 16:26.48 | Ammako | i noticed in world quests list icons usually end up ignoring their parent frame's alpha |
| 17:11.24 | TheDanW | Gnarfoz: i'm aware, thanks |
| 17:12.38 | Gnarfoz | TheDanW: <3 |
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| 17:14.38 | TheDanW | appears that the highlight color can't be set from Lua, TIL |
| 17:14.49 | TheDanW | no reason for that to be the case though |
| 17:15.27 | schlumpf | [TOM_RUS]|2: See, Blizzard employees _can_ admit to mistakes! ^^^ |
| 17:16.14 | Gnarfoz | u wot m8 |
| 17:16.36 | TheDanW | i mean, it wasn't my mistake ;) |
| 17:17.33 | Thunder_Child | He is blaming Guill as usual. |
| 17:17.46 | Gnarfoz | no idea what he even meant, "I'm aware" is not an admission of guilt ^^ |
| 17:18.05 | schlumpf | Gnarfoz: the "no reason for that to be" is kind of saying it isn't as intended ;) |
| 17:19.14 | Ammako | I mean, just because it can be changed doesn't mean it was unintended |
| 17:19.45 | Gnarfoz | schlumpf: reaching~ |
| 17:19.50 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 17:20.04 | schlumpf | MFW I'm trying to make a bad joke insulting tom and am apparently the baddie. |
| 17:20.50 | Gnarfoz | ponders his humor setting |
| 17:21.09 | Gnarfoz | also, I thought that was a quote |
| 17:21.11 | Gnarfoz | for some reason |
| 17:21.24 | Gnarfoz | so my bad |
| 17:21.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 17:29.08 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: why did you make me do this? |
| 17:29.57 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: for the greater good, of course! :D |
| 17:30.05 | TheDanW | i added SetHighlightColor and GetHighlightColor for editbox, i already happened to be in that code |
| 17:31.08 | Ammako | mvp |
| 17:31.21 | foxlit | but it's not like this accomplishes that, since we have no idea whether my super special awesome method to leak forbidden nameplate locations is the same as the one used in the video. |
| 17:32.15 | Gnarfoz | true, we won't know until they leak their addon |
| 17:32.26 | Gnarfoz | but plugging all known leaks seems like a good thing (tm) anyway |
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| 17:35.47 | foxlit | I also have a wonderful way to plug all the holes, ever. Coming in patch 7.3.7: Gnarfoz can no longer use addons. :P |
| 17:36.19 | TheDanW | it would simplify all this security stuff ;p |
| 17:37.22 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure this special handling is more suited to your nefarious purposes |
| 17:38.51 | Gnarfoz | it's not like I'm a record holder of subverting Blizzard's restrictions :P |
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| 17:52.19 | schlumpf | Given the amount of pain they have caused, just remove nameplates. |
| 17:52.42 | schlumpf | Or friendly players. |
| 17:52.46 | Ammako | remove the ui |
| 17:53.32 | schlumpf | Add FrameXML to baddons |
| 17:54.56 | Ammako | relevant xkcd https://xkcd.com/129/ |
| 17:57.11 | Gnarfoz | "remove players" seems like the most permanent option |
| 17:57.22 | schlumpf | Not like anything would be lost |
| 17:58.03 | foxlit | bonus question: why does GetRect return nothing on fobirdden frames? |
| 17:58.19 | foxlit | s/bird/rbid/ |
| 17:58.56 | foxlit | (or maybe just forbidden nameplates specifically. testing things is a pain.) |
| 17:59.54 | schlumpf | What would you prefer? an error? an empty rect? |
| 18:01.00 | foxlit | not really a question of preference, just interested in whether they special-cased this explicitly or whether I'm wrong in some underlying assumption. |
| 18:02.11 | foxlit | (it already throws an error if you ask impolitely; it's more that I'd expect it to return actual data when not throwing an error) |
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| 18:32.48 | Semlar | GetRekt |
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| 19:35.05 | ls- | Andols2: that's the same guild Invite/ÐÐ½Ð²Ð°Ð¹Ñ as always :p |
| 19:36.51 | ls- | btw, https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb7b9q/world-of-warcraft-has-a-rape-problem |
| 19:37.01 | ls- | Thereâs an inn in WoW where aggressive players act out their rape fantasies on unsuspecting victims. |
| 19:40.41 | Gnarfoz | see above, both of those ;] |
| 19:51.49 | Thunder_Child | He wasn't here. |
| 19:52.05 | schlumpf | Does Tom's abuse of devs also count? |
| 20:01.59 | ls- | yeah, had to scroll up to find this link, don't be mean Gnarfoz >_> |
| 20:02.12 | Gnarfoz | reading scrollback is out of fashion? :( |
| 20:02.44 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: he clearly was ;p |
| 20:03.47 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: Yea, I missed the rename message. |
| 20:04.01 | Gnarfoz | I should really filter those out as well |
| 20:04.17 | Gnarfoz | joins parts quits nicks, ahh, sweet SNR |
| 20:04.46 | Gnarfoz | (although one could argue that classifying our conversations as "signal" is pushing it) |
| 20:04.47 | Thunder_Child | I tend to prefer those. It helps to not join a chat that ended half a day earlier. |
| 20:04.57 | Gnarfoz | well, that's what timestamps are for ^^ |
| 20:05.01 | Thunder_Child | s/chat/conversation/ |
| 20:05.29 | Thunder_Child | Right, but I don't always remember to look at those. |
| 20:09.09 | Gnarfoz | well, everyone IRCs differently, I guess |
| 20:12.05 | znf | hiding joins/parts/quits always seems weird to me |
| 20:12.14 | znf | what if the guy who you talking with goes away mid-sentence? |
| 20:12.31 | Gnarfoz | happens once a years or so |
| 20:13.28 | Gnarfoz | not worth vs. having screensful of messages relating to people still not using a client/server setup or ridiculously unstable connections |
| 20:14.16 | znf | I like how irccloud bunches them together |
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| 20:19.27 | Torhal | What drives me batty are away messages. Especially when 10 or so people use them. |
| 20:19.38 | Torhal | Worse - away names. |
| 20:24.00 | znf | I should actually turn that off, the auto-away I mean |
| 20:24.27 | znf | I don't know how :D |
| 20:25.15 | znf | I just had the loveliest team-mate in Overwatch |
| 20:25.21 | znf | his name? Hanzoorthrow |
| 20:25.43 | Gnarfoz | and? throw? |
| 20:25.50 | znf | he hanzo'd |
| 20:25.52 | znf | did nothing |
| 20:25.57 | znf_away | That's a good choice. |
| 20:26.09 | Gnarfoz | so... fake name, he should be called hanzoandthrow |
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| 20:26.54 | znf | indeeed |
| 20:30.28 | znf | there goes my gold SR |
| 20:30.29 | znf | back to silver |
| 20:31.46 | foxlit | more importantly, which sc2 league are you in? :P |
| 20:33.17 | Simca_ | wood league |
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| 20:33.58 | znf | I don't play SC2 |
| 20:34.04 | znf | can't compete at junior-asian level |
| 20:34.48 | znf | I don't even own hearth of the swarm or void-whatever |
| 20:34.53 | foxlit | probably the only blizzard game where you can't actually complain about matchmaking. |
| 20:36.11 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure he'd find a way |
| 20:39.43 | znf | it's ok when you lose but your team tried |
| 20:40.02 | znf | it's really nice to have a tight match, doesn't matter if you lose or win |
| 20:40.13 | znf | but when your team doesn't even try, it's disappointing :-/ |
| 20:41.57 | znf | ...or when you find team-mates that are stuck in their cry-baby phase of "hanzo or throw" |
| 20:48.16 | znf_away | implying znf knows what sc2 is |
| 20:59.40 | Thunder_Child | Talking to yourself again? |
| 21:00.53 | znf_away | yes, I'm znf and talking to myself. look at me, being crazy and shit! |
| 21:02.01 | Thunder_Child | Huh, that sounds like something crazy schlumpf would do. |
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| 21:03.02 | znf_away | Nah, that idiot is just after tom's and dan's leaks and doesn't care for the deep emotional desires of the normal people, and shit. |
| 21:44.11 | Ammako | tfw programs don't close files when they're done with them, so I have to terminate the program before I use safely remove usb otherwise it complains the device is in use |
| 21:53.11 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: here you go https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blizzard.messenger |
| 21:55.22 | Ammako | I love how someone in one of the example screenshots named their btag "Gul'Daniel" |
| 22:00.27 | Gnarfoz | you mean, how they who created those images came up with that pun? |
| 22:00.48 | Ammako | I like that person |
| 22:01.32 | znf_away | mfw bsap is android only so far |
| 22:01.36 | Gnarfoz | hey, http://www.wowdb.com/spells/252922-dark-sorrows?artifactRank=3 is no longer totally worthless! :D |
| 22:01.49 | Gnarfoz | catering to the biggest userbase first, seems legit! |
| 22:02.09 | znf_away | rather sounds like a premature release |
| 22:02.20 | Ammako | also the way they set one of the accounts' real name as "Illidan Stormrage" |
| 22:02.28 | Ammako | confirmed illidan uses android over iOS |
| 22:03.09 | znf_away | The really impressive thing is taht those things are localized, with the german account there being TausendHasser (Illidan Sturmgrimm) |
| 22:03.52 | Gnarfoz | gotta keep the localization team busy with *something* when no expansion is being localized |
| 22:03.53 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:04.43 | Thunder_Child | Interestingly, it's not showing up on the play app. |
| 22:04.55 | Thunder_Child | I wonder if there is a flag for each. |
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| 22:52.35 | Mr_Rabies | <Gnarfoz> Mr_Rabies: here you go https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blizzard.messenger |
| 22:52.42 | Mr_Rabies | wow imso surprisd |
| 22:55.13 | Mr_Rabies | Account-wide access to World Quests and treasures in Antoran Wastes is now allowed once "The Assault Begins" chapter of the Argus campaign has been completed. Account-wide access to Invasion Points and Greater Invasion Points is now allowed once the "Dark Awakenings" chapter of the Argus campaign has been completed. |
| 22:55.20 | Mr_Rabies | actually more impressed by this lmao |
| 23:05.02 | Ammako | good on me for playing the waiting game and still not having set foot on Argus |
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| 23:07.44 | kullervo | @ earlier... there's fruit version too https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blizzard-battle-net/id1241040030?ls=1&mt=8 |
| 23:08.20 | Ammako | the fruit of years of labor by Blizzard |
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