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| 03:36.42 | nebula | foxlit: are the other helix files coming back? i'm running out of goats |
| 03:37.21 | nebula | i remember you talking about the exe changing, did the ruin everything? |
| 03:37.32 | nebula | s/the/that/ |
| 03:37.38 | nebula | damit. |
| 03:43.17 | Torhal | purls nebula into oblivion. |
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| 05:54.51 | Semlar | why does https://curse.com/premium/ just take me to mods.curse.com |
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| 05:55.47 | Semlar | i don't appear to have complimentary curse premium any more |
| 05:56.12 | Semlar | but i can't even really figure out how to check |
| 05:57.46 | Semlar | y u do dis torhal |
| 05:58.16 | Torhal | I didn't do it, Semlar. The Premium program was retired. |
| 05:58.27 | Semlar | what! |
| 05:58.32 | Semlar | i just saw someone with a flame next to their name |
| 05:58.40 | Semlar | i want my flame back |
| 05:59.09 | Semlar | well actually if you could make it a mushroom that would be ideal |
| 05:59.20 | Trela | The program is retired, but is slowly being phased out. No one can purchased a new subscription. |
| 05:59.27 | Torhal | <-- Not able to do as asked. |
| 05:59.37 | Fisker | I want to have a flame forever |
| 05:59.47 | Semlar | why is there still a premium button in the gear menu at the top |
| 05:59.56 | Fisker | <Trela> The program is retired, but is slowly being phased out. No one can purchased a new subscription. |
| 06:00.02 | Torhal | Semlar: https://mods.curse.com/news/curse/52112-curse-premium-update |
| 06:00.49 | Semlar | i see |
| 06:01.12 | Trela | Complimentary and comped should be phased out already. As Torhal linked AddOn authors are being moved to a new system. |
| 06:01.42 | Semlar | oh? are addon authors different? |
| 06:02.14 | Trela | Comping addon authors under the premium billing service was the easiest way to do it. :P |
| 06:03.31 | Semlar | i think when i comment on one of my own addons my posts should look different |
| 06:04.16 | Torhal | It used to. No idea why that was removed, but ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 06:05.11 | Semlar | yall need an extra web developer? |
| 06:05.12 | Trela | Why the premium still exists on the netbar gear menu: We probably forgot that was there. It was terrible for end user discovery anyway. |
| 06:05.19 | Trela | YES PLS. |
| 06:05.31 | Semlar | i know bootstrap and jquery |
| 06:05.43 | Torhal | queries Semlar's Js. |
| 06:05.44 | Semlar | i'm basically a web expert |
| 06:06.02 | Fisker | I can develop web too |
| 06:06.11 | Fisker | gets sticky spiderweb all over Trela |
| 06:06.18 | Trela | moans~ |
| 06:06.21 | Semlar | i need a job torhal, i need a new car |
| 06:06.33 | Fisker | I just want a cat Torhal |
| 06:06.38 | Fisker | But a job Torhal is good too |
| 06:06.44 | Torhal | There are no cat-flavored Torhals. |
| 06:06.52 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:06.55 | Semlar | the hurricane brought a fresh new feature to my trunk |
| 06:07.02 | Fisker | give me job Torhal then |
| 06:07.06 | Trela | Leaks, Semlar? |
| 06:07.21 | Fisker | Your danish guy can vouch for danes Torhal |
| 06:07.54 | Semlar | yeah the whole area where the spare tire goes is full of water |
| 06:08.06 | Fisker | you should empty that out |
| 06:08.14 | Torhal | So your trunk is now an extension of your floorboard? |
| 06:08.24 | Torhal | All new biome! |
| 06:08.51 | Semlar | it's not attractive water either, the rust has turned it yellow |
| 06:08.54 | Fisker | attacks Torhal |
| 06:09.46 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.57 | Torhal | fites Fisker with fyre. |
| 06:10.13 | Fisker | you fight Fisker with Fisker not fire |
| 06:10.22 | Fisker | that's nasty Semlar |
| 06:10.33 | Fisker | They can't hire guys with nasty cars |
| 06:10.33 | Semlar | it's not great |
| 06:10.44 | Semlar | this is why i need a new car |
| 06:11.04 | Semlar | or possibly a cordless drill |
| 06:11.06 | Torhal | So now there's a Wholesome Semlar and a Nasty Semlar? |
| 06:11.13 | Torhal | One was too much! |
| 06:11.29 | Fisker | Did you try sucking Semlar? You do that a lot |
| 06:11.31 | Bluspacecow | *gasp!* |
| 06:11.33 | Semlar | wow |
| 06:11.57 | Torhal | holds up a placard with 10/10 scrawled on it. |
| 06:12.24 | Semlar | i'm putting that i have 2 million addon downloads on my resume |
| 06:12.46 | Torhal | You'd have more if you released things. |
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| 06:12.59 | Semlar | plus if you count all the ones i've written that people have basically stolen it would be higher! |
| 06:13.11 | Fisker | I don't think web development and addon development mixes well |
| 06:13.16 | Semlar | nonsense |
| 06:13.18 | Fisker | Lua is bad and all, but it's not js bad |
| 06:13.25 | Semlar | lua is perfect how DARE you |
| 06:13.32 | Bluspacecow | *holds up a placard with 5/10 scrawled on it* |
| 06:13.39 | Semlar | more languages should strive to be lua |
| 06:13.45 | Fisker | * > Lua > Python = JS |
| 06:14.03 | Semlar | ~fiskerslap fisker |
| 06:14.03 | purl | ACTION slaps fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
| 06:14.25 | Fisker | You're right |
| 06:14.27 | Fisker | I forgot something |
| 06:14.32 | Trela | PHP is not in that greater than chain. Just floating off to the side sniffing rubber cement. |
| 06:14.33 | Fisker | Powershell > * > Lua > Python = JS |
| 06:15.42 | Semlar | how much do you think i could get on a trade-in |
| 06:15.57 | Fisker | For Lua you might be able to get LISP I guess |
| 06:16.07 | Semlar | i was thinking more for my car |
| 06:16.19 | Fisker | I don't think your Car is even worth JS |
| 06:19.01 | Bluspacecow | holds up placard with 6/10 scrawled on it |
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| 09:55.49 | znf | ~framexml |
| 09:55.50 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on https://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
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| 14:12.05 | Thunder_Child | If one assumes the twitch/curse client is electron, it seems interesting that some links still take you to the site via a browser. |
| 14:13.07 | Maldivia | why? |
| 14:14.28 | Thunder_Child | Because the client itself is pretty much a browser. Why switch applications to bring you to (in this case) your dashboard page. |
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| 14:41.54 | nevcairiel | i would kinda hate it when it just starts opening shit inside of itself |
| 14:42.19 | Funkeh` | I think he means twitch related pages |
| 14:42.36 | nevcairiel | anything not directly related to client functionality should not open in the client |
| 14:42.45 | Funkeh` | ye |
| 14:44.38 | Thunder_Child | It's as related as your profile is. |
| 14:51.21 | Gnarfoz | I would prefer being able to browse a channel's VODs in the app itself |
| 14:51.28 | Gnarfoz | but not anything not pertaining to the app itself |
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| 15:43.02 | karl_w_w | yeah vods in the client would be nice, then I could leave DASH playback turned off permanently |
| 15:47.13 | Andols | You can do that |
| 15:47.26 | Andols | If you go to Following and then Videos |
| 15:48.16 | Andols | But you can't go to a profile and press videos :/ |
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| 16:36.31 | TheDanW | Semlar: the 5th return from GetCVarInfo should tell you that, i'm not sure if there's anyway to tell if a cvar is secure (only can be changed outside of combat), but that's currently only applied to the color blindness cvars |
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| 16:41.49 | Semlar | TheDanW: i have a list of non-combat cvars in my addon that i'm pretty sure i manually tested |
| 16:43.01 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.35 | Simca | ah yeah those make sense though |
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| 16:44.09 | Simca | nameplates/UIscale are probably abusable |
| 16:44.54 | TheDanW | oh yeah, i remember making those secure, wonder why they didn't show up in my search |
| 16:45.28 | TheDanW | doesn't look like the api has anyway to tell if they're secure |
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| 16:51.10 | Semlar | what i did to check was just get into combat and run pcall on every cvar in the list to see if they threw an error |
| 16:51.45 | Stanzilla | he is saying that he wants an API |
| 16:54.11 | TheDanW | i added a new return value to GetCVarInfo in 7.3.5 that tells you if its secure |
| 16:55.17 | Stanzilla | yay, thanks |
| 16:56.07 | A-KO^^ | oh TheDanW that thing you recommended to me (checking the name on the vendor) worked greaet :D |
| 16:56.09 | A-KO^^ | great* |
| 17:00.59 | TheDanW | sweet |
| 17:01.56 | Semlar | Stanzilla: i think we're going to have to add a blacklist for certain cvars like "lastCharacterIndex" because someone was complaining about it reapplying the previous value on login |
| 17:02.47 | Simca | there are some CVars which are session-based i think |
| 17:03.13 | Stanzilla | Semlar: yeah agree |
| 17:03.21 | Stanzilla | those are the ones they should not touch anyway |
| 17:03.43 | Semlar | i actually left it out of the hard-coded list, but with the new version pulling in all cvars from the api that doesn't work |
| 17:04.35 | Semlar | realistically that cvar should probably be read-only anyway |
| 17:05.18 | Semlar | i can't think of a reason for an addon to change which character slot should be selected when you log out |
| 17:05.44 | Simca | TheDanW: this is probably more of an 8.x request but reminder that a GameTooltip:GetGameObject() function would be great. (problem being that currently, adding text to a specific object-based tooltip has to use GameTooltipLeftText1 detection to match names, which doesn't work across languages, whereas a way to retrieve the ObjectID of the mouseover'd object would fix it) |
| 17:05.48 | Cairenn | Happy Birthday Seerah! |
| 17:05.56 | Seerah | Thank you! :) |
| 17:06.13 | Semlar | happy birthday seerah! |
| 17:06.20 | Semlar | did you bring us cake |
| 17:06.24 | Simca | may you have many kittens |
| 17:06.43 | TheDanW | Simca: i have a big list of tooltip changes i want to make, i'll add something like that to it; no idea on time frame though |
| 17:07.22 | Simca | okay, thanks. it's been a thorn in my side for a long time so even if it took a while, it would still be worth it |
| 17:07.51 | A-KO^^ | oh it's Seerah's bday? |
| 17:07.55 | A-KO^^ | Happy bday! |
| 17:08.00 | Semlar | i don't remember if i complained about GameTooltip:GetItem() still not returning an item link for dual-wielded artifact weapons recently |
| 17:08.01 | A-KO^^ | Seerah you going to blizzcon this year? |
| 17:08.18 | Seerah | thanks, guys :) A-KO^^: yes |
| 17:08.21 | A-KO^^ | awesome! |
| 17:08.45 | TheDanW | Semlar: i'm only aware of recipes not returning a link from GetItem, it may be related |
| 17:08.46 | Semlar | i'm only complaining because someone was complaining to me about it and i figured i'd pass it on |
| 17:08.58 | A-KO^^ | So it looks like I'll get some time in the evenings to do stuff. You'll have to come visit me where I'll be, which I can't say yet. LOL. |
| 17:09.43 | Semlar | GetItem doesn't work on one of the 2 weapon slots when you have a dual wielded artifact weapon equipped |
| 17:09.50 | Semlar | it used to |
| 17:10.00 | Seerah | A-KO^^: hehe :) |
| 17:10.15 | Semlar | i think it returns the name, and an empty item link |
| 17:10.15 | Simca | those items must be such a pain to handle |
| 17:10.24 | Simca | since they don't actually exist |
| 17:11.05 | Semlar | of course not simca, it's a video game |
| 17:11.09 | TheDanW | they do once you equip them |
| 17:11.22 | TheDanW | before that, they're just some static data |
| 17:12.16 | Semlar | it's a little tricky to get the real item level of an artifact that someone has equipped instead of 750 |
| 17:12.34 | Semlar | because you have to make sure all of the relics socketed in it are actually cached |
| 17:12.51 | Gnarfoz | *cough* artifact ui and relic info *cough* |
| 17:13.09 | Semlar | for inspecting people |
| 17:13.22 | Gnarfoz | even for yourself |
| 17:13.54 | Semlar | without the item link of the weapon, you can't get the list of relics in it |
| 17:15.02 | TheDanW | yup, async item data is miserable :) |
| 17:15.34 | Semlar | he fixed a different api a while back to make it return the item hyperlink when you were inspecting someone out of range though, so it's not as big of a deal that GetItem doesn't work |
| 17:15.53 | Simca | battle.net api may have run into similar issues with relics; what they do is cheating |
| 17:15.58 | A-KO^^ | oh I've been using this really nifty Visual Studio Code addon for WoW lua :D |
| 17:16.18 | Simca | they compound all the relics' itemlevel bonuses and then return a bonusID with a +ilvl amount equal to the sum of everything |
| 17:16.27 | Simca | whereas the real item ingame will not have that bonusID |
| 17:17.05 | Simca | if you calculate ilvl properly but have to use battle.net api results (wowdb does this), then you end up with double the actual increased itemlevel |
| 17:17.30 | Simca | we had to end up ignoring all the bonuses in the +ilvl range that the battle.net api uses for its cheating |
| 17:20.46 | Simca | they might do it for the sake of others though. it is pretty complex work scaling relics with bonusIDs and getting the proper +ilvl modifiers. it was kind of funny in a sad way to go through all the work to make it work properly though and find out that doing everything properly gives you bad results because the api is cheating and doing something the game would interpret wrong as well. |
| 17:22.11 | Semlar | i wish the inspection api didn't require you to keep a valid unit ID for somebody when it finishes inspecting them to get the data |
| 17:22.25 | Semlar | especially since you can only inspect one person at a time |
| 17:23.56 | Semlar | like if i send a request to inspect my mouseover target and then mouse off of them and the inspection finishes, i can't actually go over the data because i don't have their unit ID any more |
| 17:26.19 | Simca | yeah that's kind of annoying. happens a lot too, with people phasing in and out and stuff |
| 17:27.26 | [TOM_RUS] | make apis work with guids |
| 17:28.08 | Semlar | it could just let you go over the last person you had inspected when you tell the unit functions to use your inspection target |
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| 19:46.20 | foxlit | nebula: yes, that's the problem. |
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| 21:12.57 | znf | My favourite is when my UI taints for some reasons, I jump off a cliff later and I levitate slowly to my target, but then I want to right-click levitate in a controlled "fall"; but because the UI is tainted, I can't right click it, so I end up overshooting my target, and I end up in some place the server doesn't like me to be thus getting a disconnect from the server |
| 21:19.49 | foxlit | time to put /cancelaura Levitate on your action bars? |
| 21:20.43 | znf | I HAVE TOO MANY BUTTONS! |
| 21:21.12 | znf | Stanzilla, why does TipTac taint? |
| 21:21.17 | foxlit | BETTER REMOVE SHADOW:WORD EVERYTHING. |
| 21:21.19 | Semlar | i had a bunch of /cancelaura stuff macro'd into my killshot |
| 21:22.30 | Semlar | just so i had a key to hit to cancel things like paladin bubbles that didn't really interfere with anything else |
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| 22:18.12 | znf | Semlar Land be like https://i.imgur.com/BRJxnld.png |
| 22:18.41 | Semlar | should've FD'd |
| 22:19.42 | Gnarfoz | you are not prepared |
| 22:22.41 | schlumpf | Have you tried dieing less? |
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| 22:26.34 | znf | schlumpf, yes |
| 22:26.39 | znf | didn't work out |
| 22:26.53 | schlumpf | What happened? Did you dead? |
| 22:27.18 | znf | I deaded |
| 22:27.32 | schlumpf | A classic znf |
| 22:29.09 | Andols | He ded |
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| 22:32.22 | znf | ...people are so entitled in this game |
| 22:32.41 | znf | I make a group for Rezira the Seer - the one that needs a portal to open, the one you farm eyes for |
| 22:32.46 | schlumpf | https://imgflip.com/i/1w3ihd - enjoy more amazing schlumpf memes after the break |
| 22:32.58 | znf | I say I open the portal at 00:30 so people get a chance to get there and kill it for their achievements and so on |
| 22:33.19 | znf | ...and they still demand summons and shit, or asking to open it faster *sigh* |
| 22:33.34 | schlumpf | people are literally the worst thing with people |
| 22:34.40 | znf | *nod* they people |
| 22:35.24 | Ammako | psh, if I made the group, I get to have control over whether they get to stay, so there's that |
| 22:36.29 | schlumpf | I strongly suggest getting rid of them all. |
| 22:38.49 | znf | not like I actually needed the kill, just tought it would be nice to offer people a chance to do it |
| 22:39.01 | schlumpf | step 1: don't be nice to people |
| 23:18.22 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO^^ (~sa@198.74.38.103) |
| 23:35.46 | Mr_Rabies | you can still get legendaries from the old emissary quests right? |
| 23:35.55 | Mr_Rabies | the rewards seem pretty heavily nerfed right now |
| 23:36.37 | znf | technically yes |
| 23:41.04 | Mr_Rabies | what's "technically" different |
| 23:50.26 | znf | nobody knows |
| 23:51.11 | Mr_Rabies | ah still a black box |
| 23:51.11 | Mr_Rabies | got it |
