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| 16:07.45 | VIad | hmm, is there a complete slug to realm name map somewhere? |
| 16:09.13 | VIad | like "kult-der-verdammten" |
| 16:09.24 | VIad | in-game it would be written differently :'< |
| 16:09.49 | VIad | "twilight-s-hammer" another slug |
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| 16:45.07 | nevcairiel | replace everything non-alpha by dashes, done? =p |
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| 20:43.45 | znf | Anyone knows how to use a soldering iron? |
| 20:49.34 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 20:50.52 | znf | apparently I suck |
| 20:50.57 | znf | I just want to solder a damn button |
| 20:51.05 | znf | but my soldering iron doesn't seem to be doing shit on it's tip |
| 20:51.21 | znf | melts the soldering-alloy-thingie on its sides, but not on it's tip |
| 20:52.06 | znf | what am I doing wrong? |
| 20:52.14 | znf | shitty hardware? |
| 20:52.26 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLfXXRfRIzY |
| 20:52.39 | karl_w_w | it's better with visual aids :P |
| 20:56.38 | znf | coily-flexibile-melty thingie won't stick to the tip |
| 21:04.57 | karl_w_w | who knows |
| 21:05.07 | karl_w_w | is it clean? :P |
| 21:06.48 | karl_w_w | is your solder wire really thin? can be harder to work with that thin stuff |
| 21:07.07 | znf | it's thin, yes |
| 21:07.14 | znf | I've no idea what to clean it with |
| 21:07.29 | znf | I've never really actually used a soldering iron |
| 21:07.33 | karl_w_w | solder :P |
| 21:07.37 | znf | I mostly used a soldering gun |
| 21:16.42 | znf | I was trying to tin the wire |
| 21:16.48 | znf | and then stick it in places |
| 21:16.56 | znf | but nope, I can't do this :D |
| 21:18.58 | karl_w_w | feels bad man |
| 21:23.52 | karl_w_w | basically solder will stick to the first hot thing it touches |
| 21:24.18 | znf | that's not my issue :D |
| 21:24.35 | znf | my issue is the stupid tool not actually heating the melty-fluxy-thingie |
| 21:25.01 | znf | I don't really do much electronics, I just wanted to solder a simple 2 contact button to an OBD plug |
| 21:25.32 | znf | so I just bought one of those cheap soldering irons from the first place I found |
| 21:25.40 | znf | thinking I could use it for 4 total connections |
| 21:25.42 | znf | nope :D |
| 21:26.02 | karl_w_w | what is a melty fluxy thing :P |
| 21:26.23 | karl_w_w | the only thing u need to get hot really is the thing you want to solder together |
| 21:26.40 | znf | but it doesn't heat those parts :-| |
| 21:26.47 | znf | melty-fluxy-thingie that is silver and it melts! |
| 21:28.34 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/maP9ri74/20170820_002802.jpg |
| 21:28.43 | znf | just wanted all these 3 things togeter |
| 21:28.58 | znf | well, 4, whatever :P |
| 21:30.27 | znf | oh great, somehow I managed to get melty-thingie on the couch cushion |
| 21:30.33 | znf | guess it's gonna stay like that forever |
| 21:32.48 | znf | scotchlok connectors kick ass >_< |
| 21:33.34 | karl_w_w | im not good enough to know how to help you :P |
| 21:33.48 | karl_w_w | Thunder_Child, I nominate you to take over |
| 21:33.56 | znf | it's probably just a shitty soldering iron |
| 21:34.27 | znf | I've used a soldering gun when I was a kid and I could make some things stick together for life, but this one just ain't melting |
| 21:34.43 | znf | not that I was expecting much for a $3 soldering iron |
| 21:34.51 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 21:35.20 | karl_w_w | it's a super useful skill to have |
| 21:35.28 | znf | I'm aware |
| 21:36.17 | znf | but for wire to wire, I just defaulted to using scotchlok connectors |
| 21:36.30 | Thunder_Child | Only a lobotomy can help znf, karl_w_w. |
| 21:36.31 | znf | the nice Gel ones that you just put 2 wires in there, punch the thingie, and it's sealed forever |
| 21:38.10 | Ssateneth | Trying to do some tooltip reading of GameTooltip with respect to game objects some as herbs |
| 21:38.45 | znf | Ssateneth, pst, Semlar's the tooltip guy |
| 21:38.45 | Ssateneth | I know I can set the gametooltip to a hyperlink of a unit's GUID and then do stuff like that |
| 21:39.43 | Ssateneth | But game objects are trickier. :( |
| 21:39.59 | Ssateneth | Cant UnitGUID("mouseover") them so im stuck at that point |
| 21:40.18 | Ssateneth | Even if I could, i dont think you can make a hyperlink of a game object |
| 21:40.26 | znf | are object GUIDs even exposed to the user? |
| 21:40.41 | znf | user/interface |
| 21:40.47 | Ssateneth | dont think so >.< |
| 21:41.54 | Ssateneth | Im just trying to do some janky quest tracking shenanigans; I can do it with npcs by seeing if there are 3 or more lines in the tooltip (more or less, more shenanigans going on there) |
| 21:42.39 | Ssateneth | But since I cant set hyperlink to game objects, thats out the window and would have to just mouse over something to get the tooltip to pop up anyways |
| 21:48.39 | Ssateneth | maybe better to ask how a tooltip gets populated when you mouseover it, then I can backtrack from there |
| 21:48.53 | Ssateneth | with respect to stuff like quest objects and herbs |
| 21:52.21 | znf | dig trough the framexml? |
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| 22:00.55 | Ssateneth | why do i keep deleting my copy of framexml |
| 22:00.56 | Ssateneth | zzzzz |
| 22:04.57 | znf | because you use it as "often" as me |
| 22:05.03 | znf | once a year or so |
| 22:05.12 | znf | and by the time you need to do stuff with it, it's outdated :P |
| 22:14.14 | Ssateneth | rip |
| 22:16.02 | Semlar | if GetUnit() doesn't return anything for them you'll have to just compare the name that's in the tooltip |
| 22:17.57 | Semlar | i don't have a clear idea of what you're trying to do |
| 22:19.07 | Semlar | if they're a quest objective and their tooltip is populated with that then you'll be able to just get the objectives directly from the tooltip without even identifying the object |
| 22:19.39 | Ssateneth | yeah... |
| 22:40.05 | znf | So, I've always been curious about this |
| 22:41.19 | znf | Wikipedia says that commercial GPS receivers have a limit of altitude and/or speed so they won't be used in the construction of balistic missiles |
| 22:41.28 | znf | The "COCOM Limits": This was intended to prevent the use of GPS in intercontinental ballistic missile-like applications. |
| 22:42.34 | znf | But, if someone can make a self-guiding intercontinental ballistic missile, how would the limits of a commercial GPS receiver stop them? I mean, if they have the tech to build the missile, wouldn't they just remove the limit in the receiver, seeing that the receiver is on their end? |
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| 22:53.52 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:04.11 | foxlit | znf: you're thinking of an overly complicated missile. |
| 23:04.21 | znf | am I? |
| 23:04.39 | znf | aren't all missiles complicated by definition? |
| 23:04.43 | znf | I mean they fly and blow up stuff |
| 23:04.48 | nevcairiel | not really, the basic principle is rather simple |
| 23:06.21 | znf | but isn't the guidance part very complex, regardless? |
| 23:06.37 | nevcairiel | its just math |
| 23:06.37 | znf | in order to actually benefit from the GPS receiver, doesn't it need some sort of self-guidance? |
| 23:09.52 | foxlit | I was likely underestimating the limits (1900km/h at 18km up seems like a lot) |
| 23:10.06 | nevcairiel | the challenge really is building something that doesnt fall apart, basic guidance systems are easy |
| 23:10.13 | nevcairiel | its just a lot of math |
| 23:10.17 | znf | thats' my point |
| 23:10.36 | nevcairiel | not really, its entirely different categories of engineering |
| 23:10.38 | znf | needing it to fly so high and that fast seems to be a bigger challenge than a puny GPS receiver |
| 23:10.42 | nevcairiel | one is microelectronic or whatever |
| 23:10.46 | nevcairiel | one is building durable missles =p |
| 23:10.47 | foxlit | still, you could build something more like an unmanned bomber rather than a missile. |
| 23:11.19 | nevcairiel | they build missles in WW2 without any clue of digital technology =p |
| 23:11.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.57 | znf | did auto-pilot on planes exist before GPS? |
| 23:12.00 | nevcairiel | that looks a lot like a plane, for which gps of course works :p |
| 23:12.04 | znf | I've no idea how auto-pilot works |
| 23:12.47 | Thunder_Child | Note that there is a vast difference between a sidewinder and an ICBM yet they are both classified as missiles. |
| 23:12.48 | nevcairiel | they had ground-based stations before GPS to give some navigation help |
| 23:13.49 | nevcairiel | specifically, VOR and LORAN |
| 23:15.02 | nevcairiel | and before that autopilots perhaps just used whatever onboard instruments they had to keep the plane level and on a pre-set fixed course |
| 23:18.18 | znf | so is auto-pilot these days using GPS? |
| 23:22.12 | znf | huh, apparently the US is still launching GPS satellites |
| 23:22.56 | nevcairiel | why wouldnt they |
| 23:23.09 | foxlit | they don't last forever and technology keeps improving. |
| 23:23.22 | znf | dunno, it felt like a mature tech |
| 23:23.33 | nevcairiel | satellites break :p |
| 23:24.07 | nevcairiel | and who knows if coverage is equally well everywhere around the world |
| 23:24.56 | znf | japan is apparently launching new GPS satellites |
| 23:25.18 | znf | https://www.yahoo.com/tech/japan-launches-satellite-better-gps-system-071313047.html |
| 23:25.37 | Torhal | launches znf. |
| 23:25.54 | nevcairiel | you should read your own articles |
| 23:25.55 | foxlit | heh, they called the sat Guidance. |
| 23:26.07 | nevcairiel | its not GPS satellites, but their own nav system with more precision |
| 23:26.44 | znf | well, it still operates "in tandem" with GPS |
| 23:26.55 | nevcairiel | on the ground, not on the same satellite =p |
| 23:27.47 | znf | couldn't anyone launch GPS satellites, without the US' help? |
| 23:28.25 | znf | I mean actual GPS, not another geo-location tech |
| 23:29.06 | nevcairiel | none exist, so perhaps not |
| 23:29.17 | znf | wonder if it's just political |
| 23:30.13 | znf | I mean, considering how long GPS has been around, surely there's nothing "secret" that couldn't have been reverse-engineered by now, even that - from what I've read, GPS satellites just broadcast a timestamp and their location |
| 23:30.21 | nevcairiel | of course it is, the muricans like to keep control of the system, imagine if they could limit it to their own military by some encryption when they invade you, and you relied on it =p |
| 23:31.17 | znf | so in theory russia could just launch their own GPS satellites, that are under their own control, but using the same tech that's been available for years on the receivers end, wouldn't it? |
| 23:31.37 | znf | but if it gets there, I'm sure they'd be nuking their own satellites out of the sky :P |
| 23:32.23 | foxlit | if you're launching your own gnss sats, why do you care about receiver compatibility? |
| 23:32.47 | nevcairiel | gps receivers need to know which satellites exist for some reason, so you would probably also need modified receivers, at which point you might just make it incompatible to boot =p |
| 23:33.23 | znf | don't they "cold start"? |
| 23:34.53 | nevcairiel | the reason for this is apparently that the system sends out a continous stream of data and to synchronize you need to know a specific code for each satellite that serves as a "sync", so you can sync up the clock |
| 23:35.13 | znf | interesting |
| 23:36.11 | znf | I always assumed that it just looks up in the sky and waits for stuff to broadcast and find it :P |
| 23:36.28 | nevcairiel | the protocol is old and simple =p |
| 23:36.44 | nevcairiel | and its broadcast, so you need to sync up to the "start" of a new block somehow |
| 23:36.56 | nevcairiel | and to avoid confuzzling, they seem to use a different code for every sat |
| 23:38.06 | znf | are we on some sort of list now? |
| 23:38.26 | nevcairiel | gps isnt that secret of a topic =p |
| 23:38.49 | znf | missiles! |
