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| 00:10.17 | fewyn | i went with a female troll |
| 00:10.24 | fewyn | i named her kaizo |
| 00:10.32 | fewyn | since i'm watching people play super dram world |
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| 00:31.46 | Simca | i bet every single WoW dev prays for the day when they can drop 32-bit support |
| 00:32.00 | fewyn | i wish they would do it already |
| 00:32.01 | Simca | but that day is probably still a while off |
| 00:32.30 | Simca | losing XP is the first step; Vista+ all have viable x64 variants |
| 00:32.41 | Simca | (let's not talk about XP x64) |
| 00:33.41 | nebula | was it so bad other than driver support? |
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| 00:36.44 | Simca | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition#Known_limitations first one is the killer |
| 00:37.15 | nebula | ah, i remember friends that jumped on installing it, buti never saw the point |
| 00:41.33 | Stanzilla | I used to run server 2013 with tweaks as a main os |
| 00:42.44 | Mr_Rabies | vista 32 bit is a nightmare that shouldn't have existed |
| 00:42.53 | Mr_Rabies | 7 32 bit is actually okay, i have one computer with it still :v |
| 00:43.11 | Mr_Rabies | slipstreamed SP2 vista 64 bit isn't too bad, tbh |
| 00:43.20 | tz | XP64 was just server2003 |
| 00:43.22 | Mr_Rabies | basically like windows 7 with a few very slight differences |
| 00:44.05 | tz | used it for yeeeeeeeeears |
| 00:44.41 | tz | back in the day I used to actually sell slipstreaming tools |
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| 01:17.59 | Mr_Rabies | really? i used uh |
| 01:18.54 | Mr_Rabies | vlite i think |
| 01:19.05 | Mr_Rabies | or just found a working iso from microsoft, eventually |
| 01:19.28 | Mr_Rabies | nlite maybe |
| 01:19.30 | Mr_Rabies | i forgetw hich |
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| 01:21.38 | tz | yeah I used it too, mine was more a thing for doing deployment of other software at OS install-time |
| 01:22.07 | tz | I wonder |
| 01:22.15 | nebula | didn't nlite do that? i remember adding a bunch of standard stuff |
| 01:22.50 | nebula | (standard as in stuff i always installed) |
| 01:25.16 | tz | early stages nlite (xplite?) was limited to hotfixes and SP's |
| 01:28.58 | tz | kinda amusing googling for it, was like 12yrs ago now |
| 01:29.06 | tz | the UI looks so bad, lol |
| 01:29.53 | tz | http://i.imgur.com/f6bUrv8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/BJTBaAt.jpg |
| 01:30.12 | tz | not sure I wanted those memories back, ha |
| 01:30.46 | tz | that awesome potatoshop filter combination of render clouds + crystallize, lol |
| 01:30.54 | tz | laaaaaaaaaaame |
| 01:35.28 | Gnarfoz | Simca: uhhh but that limitation is also present in any other x86_64 Windows? :P |
| 01:38.05 | Simca | i wonder what the adoption rate is like on 32 vs 64 for xp/vista/7/8/10. i would imagine each new OS had a higher amount of x64 users than previous just because of manufacturers pushing it |
| 01:40.17 | nebula | could probably check using the steam stats |
| 01:40.25 | Gnarfoz | among gamers? almost 90% 64b |
| 01:40.30 | Gnarfoz | http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey |
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| 01:46.52 | Simca | huh, the trend is kind of weird. 7 is the most common 32-bit OS, then 10, then XP, then 8.1, then Vista, then 8 |
| 01:47.19 | Simca | vista makes sense, awful rep, and i guess 7 had a really good one |
| 01:47.46 | Funkeh` | hows that weird, 7 makes sense, everything else is just random low values |
| 01:48.40 | Simca | i just figured there would be less people on 10 32-bit and more people on vista 32-bit. those are the two i thought were weird |
| 01:49.12 | Funkeh` | 10 isn't low? |
| 01:50.08 | Funkeh` | 0.93% are using 32bit on 10, did I misunderstand something |
| 01:50.40 | Simca | no; that's just higher than i thought. that's about 2% of overall 10 installations which is pretty high for this day and age i would have thought |
| 01:52.12 | Funkeh` | about 5% are on 2GB of RAM or below |
| 01:52.21 | Funkeh` | I'm surprised more people aren't on 32bit! |
| 01:52.57 | Simca | that is pretty nuts |
| 01:53.19 | Simca | modern windows on 2 GB is godawful, i want to kill myself whenever i have to help somebody fix one of those pcs |
| 01:53.45 | Funkeh` | to be fair the RAM usage has decreased with every release since 7 |
| 01:54.17 | Simca | ah, i haven't paid much attention to RAM usage since 7 as I stopped doing repair work |
| 01:54.35 | Funkeh` | if you're on some shitty rig play indie's you're probably fine |
| 01:54.58 | Funkeh` | probably has an easier time playing some small indie game than running chrome |
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| 02:02.07 | Simca | protip: use swapblaster on other players in the elevator to fallen avatar in LFR |
| 02:02.20 | Simca | it resets their height after the swap and will kill them |
| 02:03.25 | nebula | aaaand you're why i raided with the neural silencer buff |
| 02:08.03 | Stanzilla | pro tip: be a shadow priest and surrender to madness and cast swapblaster while jumping over the whole at maiden |
| 02:08.33 | Stanzilla | -w |
| 02:08.46 | Simca | doesn't that kill you minutes later? |
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| 02:08.59 | Simca | nevertheless that is win. |
| 02:09.30 | Stanzilla | not if you dont go into void form |
| 02:09.38 | Simca | my typical swap strat is to stand right on the edge, watch the victim, and the second they start forward momentum, start the cast, then spin (while casting) to face the edge |
| 02:09.40 | Stanzilla | you get the cast while moving bonus without doing that |
| 02:09.45 | Simca | niiiice |
| 02:10.49 | Simca | there's a hilarious swap on the light bridge in HoV/ToV as well - you can stand on the very very edge and it stops moving you, so you can swap them straight off |
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| 13:59.12 | Andols | Can a starter edition account be invited to groups? |
| 14:07.34 | Gnarfoz | https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/World-of-Warcraft-Starter-Edition-Limitations |
| 14:07.46 | Gnarfoz | Lists "party formation" |
| 14:08.10 | Gnarfoz | So... I guess you'll have to try and get yourself invited somehow |
| 14:13.00 | Thunder_Child | He did say invited. |
| 14:13.51 | Thunder_Child | I am guessing yes since "Chat in /say and /party channels" is in the allowed section. |
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| 16:02.15 | Andols | Yes, it works |
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| 16:14.40 | Andols | But my addon did not :D |
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| 16:46.26 | TheDanW | Infus: i put in a bug for it, probably a rounding/scaling error, thanks |
| 16:55.09 | fewyn | Anyone happen to have any recommendations for a power adapter/converter for international travel? |
| 16:56.35 | foxlit | what are you charging? |
| 16:56.56 | fewyn | mainly my laptop and phone/tablet |
| 16:57.46 | foxlit | and laptop charger doesn't have replaceable plugs? |
| 16:58.16 | fewyn | well my current brick is dead so i'm having to order a new one which is one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFZ5526/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2VGL30B87ON62&psc=1 |
| 17:01.04 | foxlit | I mainly travel with this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B011KPRE1G |
| 17:01.20 | foxlit | laptop charger is its own adapter, though |
| 17:02.21 | fewyn | that adapter they have on the us site |
| 17:02.24 | fewyn | hrm |
| 17:02.54 | fewyn | that won't work in australia tho |
| 17:02.57 | fewyn | rip |
| 17:03.11 | fewyn | they have those weird angled plugs |
| 17:04.20 | foxlit | the us ones might twist |
| 17:06.05 | fewyn | https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx355OMJ2TOCRPC/1?source&asin=B011KPRE1G according to this i'd have to get a plug adapter |
| 17:06.44 | fewyn | which they don't seem to sell on amazon at least not from syncwire |
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| 17:40.57 | foxlit | Something like https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01J18QF6E might also work |
| 17:44.07 | fewyn | yeah someone just linked that one to me foxlit =p |
| 17:44.17 | fewyn | the problem is it is not a voltage converter |
| 17:44.24 | fewyn | aus uses 230v |
| 17:45.06 | foxlit | laptop charger shouldn't care? |
| 17:45.55 | foxlit | (and usb is usb) |
| 17:50.41 | fewyn | i don't know anything about this stuff? |
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| 19:08.17 | Andols | fewyn: If you look at the small text on your laptop/phone chargers. If the input text says 110-230V 50-60 Hz on it you won't need any voltage converter only a adapter for the plug =) |
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| 19:23.36 | fewyn | oh thanks Andols |
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| 22:08.27 | znf | in current time, does Sylvanas still have Valkyries? |
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| 23:16.36 | fewyn | hrm i wonder i wonder if there's anything else i need to order before my australia trip |
| 23:17.03 | nebula | znf: yes, she has 4 or 5 left (also there would be no new forsaken without them) |
| 23:17.54 | nebula | well, 4 or 5 that can resurrect slyv that is |
| 23:18.03 | nebula | sylv* |
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